Soul Talk and Psychic Advice
Soul Talk & Psychic Advice with Dr. Donna Lee
Welcome to Soul Talk & Psychic Advice, where intuition meets real-life wisdom. I’m Dr. Donna Lee, a psychic, spiritual coach, and somatic healer with over 24 years of professional experience helping people navigate life’s toughest questions and deepest transformations.
Each episode dives into soulful conversations about grief, healing, relationships, energy, and spiritual growth—along with what I’ve learned from decades of doing psychic readings and intuitive guidance sessions.
This is a space for truth-seekers, empaths, and anyone ready to live with more clarity, peace, and purpose. Together, we’ll explore how to trust your intuition, understand spiritual signs, and find meaning through life’s challenges.
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You can be gifted and still be healing. That single truth can lift years of pressure off a psychic, healer, empath, or intuitive who secretly believes they have to be calm, confident, and “fixed” before they’re allowed to help anyone else. I talk about the hidden shame of still needing healing, and why the urge to look spiritually advanced often turns into spiritual bypassing, perfectionism, and burnout.
I also share why triggers don’t mean you’re failing, they mean your nervous system is asking for support. Intuitive development isn’t separate from trauma healing; it’s often built through it. As sensitivity increases, you notice more: emotional patterns, overgiving, people pleasing, and the places where you feel responsible for other people’s feelings. When you learn nervous system regulation and embodiment, you don’t become “above” emotions, you become more grounded inside them. That’s where sustainable psychic work lives.
We go deeper into the difference between development and perfection, and why ongoing growth can actually improve discernment and ethical intuitive practice. When you can tell what belongs to you and what belongs to someone else, projection drops, boundaries get clearer, and your intuitive clarity strengthens. I close with a gentle somatic reflection you can try right now, plus a note about my Embody Psychic Portal for anyone who wants grounded, supported intuitive growth.
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The Shame Healers Hide
SPEAKER_00Hello, it's Dr. Donna and welcome to another episode of my podcast, Soul Talk and Psychic Advice. Today we are exploring something that many psychics, healers, empaths, and intuitives feel but often do not talk about openly. The hidden shame of still needing healing. Many intuitive people quietly carry the belief if I am meant to help others, I should already be healed. And I've heard that plenty of times, and that isn't how that works. Um they may believe that they should already feel confident in their abilities. They may believe that they should not feel triggered anymore. We're always going to feel triggered about something. That's it's just how it is. It's just that when you have a regulated nervous system, you can immediately come down from that trigger. And they may believe that they should already trust themselves completely, and they may believe that they should not still feel uncertain or sensitive, which is crazy. Because of this, many healers feel pressure to appear grounded even when they are still learning how to feel safe in their own nervous system. They may worry that needing support means that they are not advanced enough. Boy, yeah. They may wonder if continuing to grow means that they are not ready to help others. You know, I had this saying that I realized when my son died, and I wrote it in my book, that perfect people can't help people in pain because they can't. Um people don't want perfect people as healers, they have no desire for that. When my son died, my business grew. It just automatically grew. I mean, it was it almost doubled because people liked that not they didn't like that I lost my son per se, but they seen me as even more real. And it just shot up my business. People are not looking for perfect people. I know that persona is still out there that we need to be perfect in love and light and enlightened all the time, but no, that's spiritual bypassing. And so let's continue. But healing is not separate from intuitive development. Healing is part of intuitive development, it really is. You become more into your gifts as you heal your own traumas. Sensitivity often increases awareness of emotional develop in emotional environments, and awareness often reveals areas where support is still needed. Needing healing does not mean something is wrong, it does not mean that. Yes, you can't heal pain unless you deal with bringing it into conscious mind, and when something becomes conscious, it begins to transform. So think about it, and you know the reason why I've really started to deep dive into this work, and it's it's weird because grief work led me here because I realized that grief was bigger than just death, right? Yes, we grieve, divorce is stuff, you know, breakups, um, job loss, where there's all sorts of grief, but it's the grief of the childhood or trauma that happened in our younger years that stays with us, that you know, we learn to bury and just move forward, or hope that when we became adult that magically that pain would go away, and then for someone who is a healer, you know. Um if you're in a healing profession, I call psychic work, empath work, Reiki, all those things are all healing, right? And it's a big business. There's room for a lot of people, but when you are in this work, for some reason you think you need to be perfect, and we have hurt ourselves and hurt clients indirectly by portraying a perfect persona. And you know, I realize how many people are hiding that they have pain. And it really shows up when you do work like this because and it can show up in other businesses, you know, differently, but it really shows up heavily when you're doing any type of spiritual healing work. And so you have to face it or it will destroy you. I think that's why some psychists get tired and burned out because they're not dealing with the trauma that they have. They just want to assume, well, I'm close to God, so I'm already healed, I'm okay. When really they're just trying to avoid the pain, just like other people. Remember, intuitive psychics and pastors are just regular people. That's all we are, and we can bypass just like anybody else if we're not careful. So let's talk about why healers feel ashamed to still be healing. Look, I say it and I don't care who likes it or not, I will always work on myself. I will go to therapy if needed. I've done a lot of therapy, I needed it. Um and I am very much about that. I've done other healing modalities, BES, EFT, I've done many things, and I'm kind of addicted to healing now because I see the freedom that it brings. But let's talk about this. Many intuitive people feel a strong desire to help others feel safe. We love to fit make everybody comfortable and fix everybody else. They often care deeply about reducing suffering. Yes, we are addicted to reducing suffering of others, but we forget about ourselves. They often feel called to offer insight, comfort, or guidance. Because of this, they may hold themselves to very high standards and we're just humans. They may believe that they should already feel emotionally stable. You know that they should feel this at all times. They may believe that they should not experience doubt. We're human. They may believe that they should always feel confident in their perceptions. But healing does not move in a straight line. Growth often happens in layers. When one layer of understanding develops, another layer often becomes visible. Sometimes intuitive development actually increases awareness of internal patterns. You may begin to notice where you overextend yourself, right? You may notice where you feel responsible for other people's emotions. You may notice where you question your own perception. You may notice where you feel pressured to perform or prove yourself. Been there, done that, done these things. Um, becoming aware of these patterns is not failure, it's development, it's self-awareness. It shows that you're healing. Many healers were never taught how to feel safe in their own nervous system. They were taught how to sense others, right? Everything's external. They were taught how to anticipate emotional needs, they were taught how to adapt. And a lot of psychic trainings also, or a lot of technical trainings, is all about the patient, the patient, but we really have to heal the healer and then do the work with the patient, facilitate the patient. Um, but they were not always taught how to remain connected to themselves. And I've seen it a lot. I've been around a lot, a lot of psychics, healers, intuitives, and that's why I'm passionate about this work. You know, it's like we we have to sit with ourselves. Because some are mean. I'm sure a lot of you have experienced that. Some healers are very mean and and outright unkind and nasty because they're suppressing their own pain. And you can only do that for so long, and then the anger comes up because anger is protecting the sadness of that pain. That's why a lot of people are angry because of pain, right? And they're burying their own sadness. Yeah. So when they begin intuitive work, they may still be learning how to feel supported internally. This is not a weakness. It's a part of learning embodiment. We are to constantly work on ourselves. And I will be honest, if I didn't get into this work, I probably wouldn't have done as much therapy or healed the people pleasing, overgiving, set boundaries. None of that. I probably wouldn't have done none of it. Because I could have escaped a little bit in other jobs, right? Something more that is not this, you know, that is more what do I want to say on Western versus this is more like Eastern and spiritual and philosophical. It's in our face when we do this work. So let's talk about cultural pressure to appear spiritually advanced. Ew, but it happens. Many spiritual spaces unintentionally reinforce the belief that emotional difficulty means something is wrong. Messages such as you should be high vibration. Yeah. You should not feel triggered anymore, sure. You should have already healed this. Yeah, you you hear a lot of it. That's why I don't go to as many spiritual seminars. I it depends. I I've learned which ones to go to and not to go to, and I learned when to leave because it can get weird like that. And you know, everybody's trying to be in love and light, and they're ignoring their own pain. And so they're bypassing, they're hiding their own pain. And this can create subtle pressure. Pressure to appear calm, pressure to appear confident, pressure to appear certain, pressure to appear beyond struggle. But being intuitive does not mean being beyond human. You can't be beyond human. We are humans. Human experience includes growth, uncertainty, learning, and integration. Yes. Sometimes spiritual language is interpreted as meaning we should transcend emotional experience completely. Not possible, right? But many intuitive abilities are connected to emotional sensitivity. Sensitivity allows perception of nuance. Sensitivity allows recognition of subtle shifts. Sensitivity allows awareness of emotional environments. Trying to eliminate sensitivity often reduces clarity. Supporting sensitivity often strengthens clarity. Being spiritually developed does not mean never feeling challenged. It means developing relationship with challenge. That's what it is. It's developing a relationship with challenge, with healing, with trauma. Because if you don't heal yourself, you're gonna limit what you can do for others. You just will. And so you have to do the work and you don't want to appear as all knowing and perfect because you will annoy people. People can't stand perfect people. You see the comments that they make online when people try to act perfect, because I it's like why? You know, who is this for? And it really isn't for the audience or to get clients, it's really for the person who's struggling inside, for the intuitive, the healer, the empath who hasn't said, I get to heal despite being called to do this work. Okay, let's talk about the myth that intuitive people should not struggle. Because we do. You know, many healers believe that if they still experience insecurity, they should not be offering intuitive support. They may believe that struggling disqualifies them, but often the opposite is true. Lived experience often increases compassion, it does. Experience with healing often increases patience, it does. Experience with self-reflection often increases ethical awareness. Because this is what will happen. If you don't face your own healing, you will be annoyed with your clients if they take too long and your ideal perception of what too long is to heal. Because then it becomes about your ego. Then I've worked with you. You should be okay now. You know, and it is it doesn't work that way. We all need different healing times, but if you heal yourself, you have that compassion, you have that empathy, you have patience, and it makes a difference because people in this work can lose their patience easily. Many intuitive people develop perceptiveness because they learn to read emotional environments early in life. They learn to notice subtle changes in tone, they learn to sense tension, they learn to interpret unspoken communication. Their abilities often develop through adaptation. The same sensitivity that created difficulty and early environments can later become a strength when supported through embodiment, but without support, sensitivity can also create overwhelm. So healing becomes part of stabilizing perception. Yes. Healing supports the intuitive system. It does. Healing allows perception without urgency, healing allows awareness without identification. Healing allows compassion without over responsibility. So let's talk about the difference between development and perfection. Because a lot of healers want to be perfect. So many healers unconsciously believe that they must reach a state of perfection, a state where they never felt doubt, a state where they never felt uncertain, a state where they never felt triggered. But development does not require perfection because that means there won't be any of us working, right? Um, development involves relationship with experience. Development involves awareness of patterns. Development involves increasing capacity to remain present. Perfection is static. Development is adaptive. Perfection creates pressure. Development creates curiosity. When healers release the expectation of perfection, they often experience more confidence. Yes, because you're not beating yourself up. Confidence does not require knowing everything because nobody knows everything. Nobody. Confidence develops through repeated relationship with uncertainty. Each experience strengthens discernment. Each reflection strengthens trust. Each boundary strengthens clarity. Yes. Gotta do this work. Healing, okay, let's talk about how healing refines discernment and ethical awareness. Healing does not weaken intuitive ability. Healing often refines intuitive ability. When healers become more aware of their own emotional patterns, they are better able to recognize what belongs to them and what belongs to someone else. This increases discernment. Discernment allows intuitive practitioners to communicate insight more clearly and responsibly. When emotional boundaries become clearer, intuitive information often becomes easier to interpret. When self-awareness increases, projection decreases. Yes. Projection can occur when personal fears or hopes influence interpretation. But as healers develop relationship with their own emotional experience, they often become more able to observe without over identifying. This strengthens ethical awareness. Ethical intuitive work does not require perfection. It requires willingness to remain aware of personal process. It requires willingness to reflect. It requires willingness to continue growing. Healing allows practitioners to recognize what they need most. Yes, and when you need rest. Healing allows practitioners to recognize when boundaries are needed. Healing allows practitioners to recognize when additional support would be beneficial. Rather than disqualifying intuitive work, healing strengthens the foundation of intuitive work. It supports sustainability, it supports integrity. It supports trust. You know, there's a saying that I heard, I saw it online, and it says a therapist without a therapist is a terrorist. Therapists are expected to have a therapist. And I believe they have to go through therapy before they can graduate or get their license. But it you know what, yeah, there's still drama in that profession too. There's drama everywhere, right? Because even people who go into psychology, and I started out with with um psychobiology. That's where I started, and then I just landed in biology, but I took a lot of psychology courses. You know, they get interested because of their own wounds, right? And they know, okay? They know to have a therapist. Why do intuitives, healers, impasse? Why do we think we gotta float on the clouds and be perfect? We should have a therapist or a healer also. Or we could be doing harm to our clients. We will be a terrorist to our clients if we are not working on ourselves and it happens. I've had clients say to me, People are mean out there, there's mean healers, and you you know, because we have our own pain, and if you ignore your own pain, then what are you doing? What is the foundation of your work? Your work is to help you and to help others. It really is. So let's talk about a somatic reflection practice. If it feels comfortable, allow your awareness to move gently toward your body. Notice your breathing without changing it. Notice the natural rhythm of inhale and exhale. Notice the contact between your body and the surface supporting you. Allow your shoulders to soften slightly if that feels available. Bring gentle curiosity to the question. Do I believe I should already have everything figured out? Do I feel pressure to appear confident all the time? Do I feel pressure to hide parts of my growth process? Notice what arises without trying to change anything. Simply observe. Notice where there where this awareness is felt in the body. Perhaps in the chest, perhaps in the stomach, perhaps in the throat, perhaps in the forehead. Place one hand over the area that feels most activated. Allow gentle contact. Notice the warmth of your hand. Notice the sensation of pressure or support. Allow the body to receive this message. The message is I am allowed to grow gradually. I do not need to rush my development. My awareness is part of my path. My healing supports my clarity. My growth does not disqualify me. My sensitivity is allowed to evolve. Yes, it is. Allow the exhale to lengthen just a little. Notice whether any shifts occur. Even a small shift is meaningful. It is. So I'm gonna close this out. Important topic, as you can tell, very passionate because I'm intertwining my journey to show people I'm not just talking about stuff, I had to live it, I had to experience it, I had to do the work, and I will continue as needed to do the work. And I encourage others to be brave enough to do the work because enough of us aren't doing it yet, and we need to. We really need to step into this wholeheartedly and stop bypassing and stop wanting to fix others before we work on ourselves, and really to show up, show up in a more authentic way. So I'm gonna close this out again. I say it again. If you have ever felt ashamed that you still need healing, you're not alone. Many healers quietly carry this belief, but needing healing does not mean you are unqualified. Often it means you are becoming more aware, more aware of patterns, more aware of boundaries, more aware of emotional responsibility, more aware of what supports sustainability. Healing does not invalidate intuitive ability. It doesn't. Healing often refines discernment and ethical awareness. And I teach this in the embody psychic portal. I have a whole intuitive embodiment method, right? And it exists to this portal exists to support psychics, healers, impasse, and intuitives in developing clarity that is grounded, sustainable, and supported by nervous system awareness. Because you don't need to have everything figured out, and it'd be nice to have a support system. You're allowed to grow gradually, you're allowed to develop your gifts in a way that supports both you and the people you serve. So I want to thank you for listening because I feel like this is such an important topic. And I will be discussing more things about healing the healer and healer shame and you you know, doing the work and these light exercises, and I will have a link below to the Embody Psychic Portal. So I want to thank you for listening. Have a great day, and I will see you in the next episode.