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High Low Brow
A Critical Analysis of "The Bear" Season Three
In this week's episode, we're diving head-first into our latest hyper-fixations. River explores the magic systems in anime gems like "Mushoku Tensei" and "I Reincarnated as the Seventh Son," while Ama reminisces about McDonald's retro dips and her latest Bravo obsession, "Southern Charm."
But for the majority of this episode, we discuss and analyze the latest season of "The Bear" with a hypercritical lens, analyzing its take on toxic restaurant culture, character arcs, and narrative strengths. We also chat about how we'd like to see the show wrap up.
SHOW NOTES:
- Re-listen to our episodes on Gigolos - start here
- ‘The Bear’ Season 3: Tastes Great, Less Fulfilling - The New York Times
- Not 9 to 5 thoughts on The Bear and glorifying toxic restaurant culture
Welcome to High Low Brow, the show with highbrow takes on lowbrow culture. I'm your one host, amanda Skraver, and I'm your fully conscious baby river gilbert I don't think I will ever get over these the fourth season no, not the four, just you randomly.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah I'm never ready for it, never ready. I never brief you in on this is what I'm thinking this week. I I do it to keep you on your toes.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it, I'm glad I need to be kept on my toes you do. I am wild. No, you're the wild card.
Speaker 2:Which is funny because in our relationship you are the wild card.
Speaker 1:It's the ADHD yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm like, I am the consistent. Yeah, this is my schedule. I feed the birds between 10 and 11 o'clock every morning. That's true when I need a little break from morning emails it's your enrichment time. It's my enrichment time outside of my enclosure.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, I love that for you, hammer let's make your brain go bright this week it's funny because you always ask me that and you never know and I never know it's.
Speaker 1:This is and I think we talk about this all the time, but I feel like it goes without saying as someone who works in social media and does not get to spend my time on social media, as a person who is like, oh, I do this for enjoyment. Sometimes I'm just like, oh, the internet I hate oh, it doesn't have to be just the internet.
Speaker 2:My my brain gober activity this week has not anything to do with the internet. My what's making my brain my brain gober this week is, well thought out, magic systems in anime oh, okay yeah, because, like normally, it's just like, yeah, these people are magical, it's like why?
Speaker 2:it's just like, yeah, these people are magical, it's like why it's like vague gesturing towards Dungeons and Dragons. But recently there's been like this resurgence of very well thought out magic systems. I just binged over the course of a week Mushoku Tensei, which has a really good magic system, and then the other one was I, reincarnated as the seventh son, so I can take my time perfecting magic all anime titles are like that.
Speaker 1:Now, it's kind of ridiculous well, I love that for you, yeah I'm like, oh, I love this, this is so cool.
Speaker 2:I'm like nothing sparks joy for me.
Speaker 1:I did not say that actually I thought of two things okay, go, go, go, go, so one we always decide like we try and take it. We're old people now we try and take a night walk yes, we do, and you know how we walked up. You went to 7-eleven, you got your slushy I got a slurpee.
Speaker 2:It's slurpees at 7-eleven. Slushies are at max slash circle.
Speaker 1:K. Sorry, god, you're like get it right. Get it right, anyways, but I was like no, I don't want that, I want fries.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So we? I went to McDonald's. I got French fries, but they have their retro dips.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they do 80s, 90s and thousands.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And I think mine was the 80s did. Yeah, you got the garlic parm. Yeah, okay, the garlic parm slaps. I got it to dip my fries in. 10 out of 10 would 100 get again accidentally bought three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought I was getting two no, you bought one and then you're like actually I wanted, I want two, and then you hit it again and it was add two to two to cart not, you have one in cart yeah, you have one in cart, you're adding now poor ux, but well, sure, but now I have an extra garlic parm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for whenever I would want one garlic parm is great like yeah, I was like why did they get rid of this?
Speaker 2:it's delicious I have probably suppliers, probably lack of interest. I mean, I just thought it was funny that they brought back the sejuan sauce yes, from the 90s, after that whole fucking rick and morty debacle they brought it back after that. Yeah, because of the rick and morty debacle yeah, and now it's just like well, we better give these fuckers what they want, yeah, and, but nobody cares about rick and morty anymore so yeah, that yeah, I was like, and also I.
Speaker 1:I guess a month ago or a month and a half ago, I'm not entirely sure how long it's been it's been roughly around that period of time, but I started watching southern charm yeah, you did. Bravo, and I just started the sixth season.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And there's nine seasons total.
Speaker 2:Shit. So this is your new VPR.
Speaker 1:This is my new VPR. It's interesting because there's some like Bravo shows where you start it and you're just kind of like I don't know. So, for example, I tried to start Married to Medicine Atlanta.
Speaker 2:I got to the second season and I'm like I'm like it's fine but it's not, whereas, like Southern Charm is so messy and also I've seen clips and yeah you've walked in on me watching it a few times and I'm like I have to finish this so she's with this guy and he's 20 years older than her and she has fucked all of his friends. Yeah, and they'm like I have to finish this. So she's with this guy and he's 20 years older than her and she has fucked all of his friends yeah, and they have like a baby together wild anyways.
Speaker 1:Like also it's in Charleston, so it's in South Carolina, and like say less like they're one of them just randomly owns a plantate like oh yeah, oh god, there's there's like very, very like subtle where that's not where I saw that.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to be like there's no gay representation no, obviously not, but that's oh god yeah, and I'm just like, I'm like obviously not. But that's oh God, yeah, and I'm just like, huh Like because it was obvious. I'm trying to think of how to like explain this Uh-huh Like. The earlier seasons were filmed before, like Black Lives Matters.
Speaker 2:All of that happened, which is not to say that Before white people were aware of racism.
Speaker 1:No, I was going to say, racism has always existed. However, what I was saying is like before, people actually were like oh, Before Bravo realized that people cared about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was just like I can't believe that like so there's that and like we see it, kind of like you were just saying, you know, the one guy is like 20 years older or 30, whatever. So there's like shit like that. I'm just like one of the other guys on the show in this current season. He was talking about how he doesn't take vaccinations from the government because he doesn't, he doesn't want to put those chemicals into his body. And I was like wait, I, I don't like.
Speaker 1:We haven't even made it to the covid season yet oh, jesus christ so I'm like, oh dear god, and so I went on reddit to be like is this person an anti-vaxxer? Because I am like. The other thing is too is this person is dating another person in another show?
Speaker 2:that I watch.
Speaker 1:Summer House and I'm just like he is so beloved and I'm like, oh my God, that was not the twist that I was expecting. So, anyways, I am really enjoying it, because it's very messy, but also like, wow, white people.
Speaker 2:A blast from the past Like we're dealing with, like giglo's level of racism.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Homophobia. That is very messy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's just weird to me that this really, like some of these seasons were not on that long ago. Like long ago, yes, but not that long ago. So it's like oh people are terrible. I mean Jiglo's came out, oh people are terrible.
Speaker 2:I mean, Jiglows came out in what? 2014?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's only been 10 years and now Nick Hawk has graduated to Nick Eagle.
Speaker 2:Didn't we do a checkup? We did a dive and we were like oh no, vin is a crypto bro Crypto bro. Yeah, and Brace is doing whatever he's doing and Nick Hawk no longer goes by Nick Hawk. He now goes by Nick Eagle and he's like a wellness influencer. Slash spiritual guide.
Speaker 1:But he also is like an anti-vaxxer.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Conspiracy theorist, it's really fucking rough.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sorry for platforming these people.
Speaker 1:How were we supposed to know, I mean, we could have?
Speaker 2:done some due diligence.
Speaker 1:Oops.
Speaker 2:Oops, that's our B.
Speaker 1:If you haven't listened to those episodes, we can relink them into the show notes. But yeah, if you're looking for something that is wild and crazy, you know southern charm or gigolos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can watch along with us. Yeah, okay, what are we talking about this week? We just finished season three of the bear we did just finish season three of the bear and it only came out like what a week ago yeah, two weeks ago, yeah, something like that very, it was so we're.
Speaker 1:We're not that far, we're that far behind we are.
Speaker 2:we've done another episode about the bear from when we finished season two. Yes because season two was fantastic and a complete departure from season one. Season one was fantastic and season three was different.
Speaker 1:Season three was quite different. I remember as soon as we watched episode one and it was like a montage of like different things and I think when it finished I looked over at you and I was like, well, if that's any representation of how this season is going to go, I'm not quite sure what this season is going to be about.
Speaker 2:I think I showed you the TikTok where it was a guy just watching season one of the Bear being like what a brave choice doing a montage for an entire episode. Then the issue shifts to his internal thoughts. He's like I'm never watching this fucking episode again.
Speaker 1:Which, like, literally, I'm like, oh, I think that's like a beautiful, what a cinematic masterpiece. And we love that art for you. But also like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we talked about it while we were having lunch and we were like what so online it's receiving not great reviews, kind of like the review they got from the Chicago. Tribune.
Speaker 1:Confused and disjointed, yeah, which honestly like okay, they're like the whole season. There's so much that we have to say, but the whole season was like beautifully shot sure, well, always beautifully shot. Yeah, well, food looked delicious, yeah like not, we're not discrediting the acting was awesome.
Speaker 2:Acting was fantastic.
Speaker 1:Ava Debrie directed an episode, yeah, which was really beautiful. Yeah, Like none of those things were bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I said like it just felt very stagnant and you said it's like, felt like it wasn't going anywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you said it's like, felt like it wasn't going anywhere. Yeah, so I think my issue after, after we got through episode one, my issue was that it didn't feel like as each episode concluded, it didn't really feel like it was going, like we were building to something and typically like not that I'm, you know, a TV writer by any means but I have talked to people who have, who are, we know TV writers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and, typically speaking, there's some sort of like you're climaxing to something so that you can end on something, and it never felt like we were going to that. It just felt like they were telling individual stories and episodes to eventually end, yeah, and vignette like storytelling is totally valid.
Speaker 2:But this felt very like I said to you, I was like maybe they're trying to be like carmy is stuck in the walk-in from last season and like because I think after last season, where it was such a character study for all the characters, like they each got their own episode and it felt fully fleshed out and you saw them evolve coming to this season where, like richie who I think was like fantastic last season, yeah, and I think made a lot of great points this season and it was very interesting to see like sort of him coming to terms with his wife, moving on, but it still just felt like he was stuck.
Speaker 1:It felt like he was stuck because he he wanted. I think the good just juxtaposition of this was when he was at the bear. It was like he would bring up all the like. This is how we should do this. This is how we keep things alive, this is how we should do a service, and Carmi was just sort of like no, no, no, no no no, but then when they go to the Chef Thierry, when they go to her, the funeral restaurant closing um spoilers sorry yeah, and he just stays in the kitchen while they're firing off service he like you kind of see, he's in his element, they're all really happy to see him, and I think that's what he wants.
Speaker 1:He wants that sort of cohesiveness yeah, he asks that question, like you know how do you.
Speaker 2:Is there a secret? Yeah, what's the secret?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think that's sort of like. That's sort of where we're building to with his story. Yeah, he doesn't feel resolved. He doesn't feel sort of seen, validated, heard.
Speaker 2:But like I was thinking about his growth from season one to season three, like first season, he pulls out a fucking gun.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:This season the psalm was like we missed a birthday and he's like fuck, that's my bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Moving forward.
Speaker 1:We don't miss birthdays and I'm like that's growth, that's growth man, and that's, and I'm like that's growth, that's growth man, and that's on growth, that's on growth marcus.
Speaker 2:I always love watching marcus because it's like watching somebody fall in love yeah, and I also feel like marcus, and I don't know if you felt this too, but it felt like they were trying to mirror carmy when he was younger in Marcus in some ways yeah, I mean, marcus has always kind of done his own thing, which is like wonderful, but like you really see him pushing and trying to grow. I was really disappointed that, like they really did it because, like again, spoilers his mom died at the end of last season and he sees this white violet and he's like I'm inspired, I want to make this and they just didn't do anything with that well, I think he, he, they kind of he's making something throughout the entire season, but we never see him like finish.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like tina yeah, like tina's whole arc was like okay, she's, she's actually purchasing, she's going to the farmer's market, this is really cool, she's freezing in and like that's she's freezing in service and sydney has to go over and like, show her, like hey, like you got this, don't worry. And it just feels stagnation, like people aren't progressing and they're regressing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean some of the criticisms that I've read online from some folks, for example Hassell, who runs an organization called Not 9 to 5, which deals? Specifically with mental health in the restaurant industry. One of the criticisms that they said was that the bear seems to be just like glorifying toxic restaurant culture and the people who sort of have have built that toxic restaurant culture and that restaurant culture. I would have to bring up the quote that they put up.
Speaker 2:But essentially, they're bringing out the Thomas Kellers. They're bringing out the.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think one of the things that I said to you while we were eating lunch was that it feels like car me has created an environment so toxic that like this is why the Tina's are freezing, yeah, why everybody feels so on edge because they can't just create it, or it before wasn't an environment where they were having fun, they could make and create food, and now it's like these are non-negotiables and if you fuck up like and the fact that he just does shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I can see what they were trying to do with Carmi. I think Like they were trying to redeem him Because, like I think we said last season, like Carmi had no growth.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Carmi was stationary and that could be it, like maybe season four is going gonna be him moving past his trauma, moving past his issues and trying to like rebuild relationships.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do we think? Do we think that carmy has? I actually okay, yeah. So again spoilers while they're at this, like funeral dinner, he goes up to the chef, chef, david, chef, david, joel McHale, who's played by Joel McHale, who actually does a really great job at being an asshole.
Speaker 2:I mean that's kind of his MO, right? Yeah, he was the host of Talk Soup House of Villains.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but like House house of villains is more of like uh, yeah, yeah, anyways, anyways. But they have this like. Carmen confronts him in the hallway and says you know like, why are you such an asshole? Yeah, do you know that you like caused me ulcers and you gave me panic attacks and you did this?
Speaker 1:yeah, whatever well, and chef david is just kind of like whatever I made you better yeah, and you know, I think, carmy in his mind he's trying, like he's trying, like he's quit smoking, he's trying. But I think, like I said to you, while that scene was, I was like man just needs therapy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, a couple of things, like one. The first thing he said to Chef David was I think about you all the time and he says I don't think about you at all. And it's like, yeah, because that's what you say.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because that's the most traumatizing thing you can say to somebody who you've traumatized yeah, most traumatizing thing. You can say to somebody who you've traumatized yeah, and when he quit smoking, he didn't quit smoking because it was. He quit smoking because he was like this is gonna make us better. It wasn't a betterment because he values himself or his like own health, or even somebody was like your palate's probably thanking you, and he's like I haven't noticed any difference. Yeah, it's like he did this in pursuit of this toxicity yeah, have you ever worked for a chef david?
Speaker 1:I've never worked in a restaurant.
Speaker 2:Well no, you haven't, but chef david's are types are like so prevalent in like senior management yeah, I feel like if you are a senior manager, you have to be a Chef. David, I don't think you have to be a Chef David. I think there's a lot that like. That's the old Peter Drucker style MBA bullshit. Yeah, I had a couple Chef Davids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know you.
Speaker 2:Oh God yeah.
Speaker 1:I think, as I have gotten older and also been through so much therapy, if you have a better understanding of. Like this is this is not a situation that is good for me, and I know how I will act and react in a situation like this. Like I need to remove myself and I like, I mean I, I, you know this, but I had a situation like that, not like this year, where I was just like.
Speaker 1:I was just like I if I stay here, something bad is going to happen and I already have too much going on in my life and I don't think it's worth staying to find out what happens. Yeah, worth staying to find out what happens. Yeah, I think it's better to remove myself and I can figure out what happens from here on out.
Speaker 1:yeah, and I was fine, like oh yeah, I mean, you were always going to be fine I yes I understand that like I, but I mean some people't are not able to put themselves in a position where they feel like they can leave.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:Because of, you know, trauma, because of worry about life, because of so many things. Yeah, yeah, it's difficult when you're in those situations and you're stuck with a person who just like, strips and takes everything away from you.
Speaker 2:And like here's the other side of that coin. There's a particular string of cafes that if you wanted to be considered a good barista, you had to do a stint there, yeah, and the people I worked under were so toxic and that was like the difference between that was that was me putting myself through that in service of being better, or what I thought was better yes, I remember while you were working at this place yeah you would tell me about some of the wine training yeah
Speaker 1:and just some of the coded language that was used. It was also very interesting for me not to not to make this video, but as someone who wrote about food at that time and people praising some of the people who were involved in this place, but also just in general Toronto restaurants or bars or cafes and not really understanding the seedy underbelly that is the toxic culture, environment, and it's really hard when you sort of pop the hood and you're like, oh yeah well the.
Speaker 2:The funny thing was was the the head chef there was actually really great like. Like he was a nice guy and the all the guys working in the kitchen I really got along well with. Like we played board games a lot, except for the Sue who was the biggest piece of shit. Like would regularly go into the walk-in and punch walls and scream like real toxic bullshit. Yeah, yeah, I am like, do you?
Speaker 1:do you and I can't remember if we talked about this watching when we've talked about it before yeah on the podcast. But does watching the bear make you anxious? Because so many people that I know who have worked in you know restaurants bars what, what just? Service? In general have said that watching the bear makes them incredibly anxious so I managed a wild wing when I was younger shout out, well, shout out, wild wing.
Speaker 2:Uh, so I was back of house and that was my only real experience with that end of things. And the first season really triggered me like the, the sound of the chip printer, the sound like that was like oh fucking hell, whereas, like season two was lovely. And then this season, I'm like I don't have experience with fine dining. I've got experience with dining, yeah, but like not fine dining, so that one wasn't as triggering for me yeah, I mean, I feel like service is service, even though, like fine dining is different.
Speaker 1:But I feel like toxic environments in service are probably very similar.
Speaker 2:I mean, dude, it depends, like the particular place that I worked at I'm thinking about like the one end of toxicity was bad, like it was bad in a break you down kind of way, but it was also. There was an entire other end of things that you didn't necessarily see, where there was, like, sexual assault happening. Yeah, there was drugs happening. Yeah, there's drugs happening at adult kitchens.
Speaker 1:Racism oh God, there was so much racism. Yeah, like yeah, yeah. I remember the one time we went to said place that you worked yeah. And they had.
Speaker 2:The patio?
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I guess, but there was a menu and you were like I asked about a certain food item. I was like I just don't understand why they wouldn't have something like this on the menu, considering it's, you know, right on the water. Yeah and the people who are majority coming here are not fine dining but rather tourists.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And you were like they said that that's not what they want to do, and I'm like, well, it sounds like they don't know their audience.
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 1:And didn't they eventually introduce?
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, that was yeah, that's a whole other kettle of fish. But no I felt like you this episode has just turned into a show. Yeah, well, no well, that was the thing was like what I feel like your situation kind of was like what sid was chef sydney was dealing with, where it's like I, you thought you were signing up for one thing because it was going to be fun and a different kind of experience, and then you got the surprise uno yeah, uno reverse yeah whereas I was like carmy in that I signed up for kind of this level of bullshit to make myself better, um and like it's arguable whether I got better or not.
Speaker 1:I will say you are pretty great, but I am also biased, and I mean you did some pretty great things in your career, yeah, but like I learned all that shit.
Speaker 2:Like before. I learned that at like the first cafe I worked at. I learned how to do volume at Dark Horse, like they really didn't give anything to me besides sleeping disorders and, uh, functional level of alcoholism.
Speaker 1:So we love that yeah, sure, sure so back to the bear the bear I mean I this season. I kind of understand why it needed to be, but I also did like. If we have to rate first, second and third season out of like, second season is probably my favorite.
Speaker 2:First season's, the second, third season's the last and third season will likely remain the last for me too.
Speaker 1:Yeah and again season's. The last and third season will likely remain the last for me too. Yeah and again.
Speaker 2:I understand why I don't?
Speaker 1:I think they could have told a very cohesive story about growth and recovery and, like yeah, even like tbh, they could have told a story about toxic workplaces and I think I think I mentioned this as well. I was like they just like every episode ended, but there was no like they had 10 episodes, three of which were 40 minute episodes.
Speaker 2:Like it's one of those, I can cut them some slack. Because of the first two seasons, we're obviously going to watch the fourth season. We need to talk about the fact that they ended this season on a literal. To be continued, I was furious, furious.
Speaker 1:I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:Like last week I was like I hate, will they want days, but I hate literal to be continued. Like the first season could have ended and it could have been a fine show, like it's like, oh, cool, like obviously there's room. Same the second season. They could have ended it there and it would have been like I, oh no, not quite because of the walk-in situation yeah but yeah, like, but this season I'm just like guys come on yeah you can't dick us around for an entire episode.
Speaker 2:You can't like edge us this entire episode. Bear season three the goon sesh.
Speaker 1:Well, I also felt and you can tell me what you think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I felt like they were trying to be arty for arty's sake.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they already were arty Like the oner on season one and like.
Speaker 1:It felt like it was trying to be the fine dining of television.
Speaker 2:Sure where it's like we're going, like we're using gel yeah, yeah, like where I'm just like just make a fucking tv show and chef said even said like it sounds, it seems like we're back in 2014. Yeah, like Also, I hated Chef Sidney's arc this season.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It was just like maybe have another CDC opportunity and her weighing hmm-ha and just not doing anything. It's the Mr Miyagi. You have to choose one side of the road to walk. If you walk in the middle of the road, you're going to get hit.
Speaker 1:I mean I think, okay, yeah, before I ask my next question, what was your favorite episode of this season?
Speaker 2:I think it was where Sugar goes into labor. Yeah, or the episode with Tina.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2:Those like the most. I again. I know we're harping on it a lot, but like that, after coming from like a purely character-driven season last season into no character development, felt very jarring and disappointing to me, absolutely yeah and I think I said to you before we started recording recording tina's episode felt like it could have been part of season two yeah, or season one yeah, I was like I don't know why this is here yeah because this entire season has felt it was kind of an evergreen episode almost yeah, which I mean like again I get what evergreen episodes are, but I don't understand its relationship to this season yeah, like yeah, no it.
Speaker 2:It did feel a little disjointed. I was like what?
Speaker 1:does this have to do with everything else that is happening? Yeah like I, I am happy to learn her story oh my god, her scene with Michael yeah. It was so nice, it was very good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I really appreciated that episode.
Speaker 1:Totally. If you could like season four, yeah, what would you want to happen? Because what I think and this is just my thoughts, shower thoughts.
Speaker 2:Shower thoughts. I think the next season will be the last wouldn't surprise me with how they were teeing up like unc having financial troubles, yes. Like maybe he'll go work, like maybe chef terry will be an angel investor, or what I think they need to do is resolutions, because they've set up so much yeah, where it's like like you can't adjust this entire season, like you gotta give us something yeah I want to see more, more service, because there was no service.
Speaker 2:It was just chefs yelling hands and richie coming in screaming yeah, uh, and I get that it's a show about chefs, but they also, at the last episode, were like it's not about the food, it's about the people, and they spent the entire season in the kitchen.
Speaker 1:So yeah me. I think carmy and sid need to just part ways. Yeah, I think that would be good. I think who else cousin he needs to go? Oh, I really hope that there's a resolution between Cousin and Carmi, like they're family and like yeah, I, I like I feel like what would be good is just everybody kind of goes and does their own thing, like maybe Tina stays there mm-hmm maybe Marcus stays there yeah, like.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying everybody needs to leave, but I'm saying like in order to show growth there needs to be change there needs to be change there needs to be opportunities and Carmi's drilling everybody down. Yeah, and I think that's kind of like what I would see.
Speaker 2:Do you want Carmi to end up with Claire?
Speaker 1:I think Carmi needs to go to therapy.
Speaker 2:Holy shit, does he ever?
Speaker 1:But I don't think if the bear is open, he's going to do that. I think that's the issue with so many chefs that we see is that they put their entire lives into something and then they don't realize that in doing it they're like blowing up their entire life 100%. So maybe that is also something that we will see is that you know the restaurant closes and he goes to therapy.
Speaker 2:I think I honestly I'm thinking we're going to get a time jump.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think like I forgot that this happened, like this universe has had COVID, but I have a feeling like we're going to jump ahead a little bit in time so we can see like some kind of resolution, because I do agree, I think there's. There might be a season five, but that'll be it. I think that'll be like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah and again. I love the show. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I will rewatch all three seasons.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I also think it's great when shows and producers and showrunners and whomever like when they know it's time to just say yeah, we're good. And also Ayo, Debrey and Jeremy.
Speaker 2:Allen yeah, like they're celebrities Two of the hottest celebrities right now. They don't need the show, no, yeah. Like I think they're good, they're yeah.
Speaker 1:no, they're great yeah they're fine, so they don't need the show we gotta talk about facts, though, oh yeah, I've heard mixed reviews. Oh, yeah, people have been like I hate them on. Oh, and so many people are like. You know that maddie matheson is one of the producers on the show yeah, he's allowed to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 2:Absolutely he is. Yeah, I loved the uh cameo from john cena yeah, that was uh as sammy. Yeah, that was hilarious um gonna haunt you I was really hoping that that was how this season was going to end, or pay off was like some kind of haunting ending. Yeah, I think that they're wonderful comic relief characters that kind of need to be there because it's such an intense show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's kind of what other people have said too, is that like they provide sort of a foil to all the like high stakes, tension, high stakes. But I think you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Emma service is high stakes.
Speaker 1:Every second counts.
Speaker 2:Every second counts. Oh, do you want to go watch the bear again?
Speaker 1:No. Okay, I'm good, I think we need to go watch A Perfect Match, or?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I started watching Love Island again because you're not gonna watch. Oh no, I said I was, I'd watch another episode. Oh well, I forgot. Oh no, well, I guess I'm never watching that show again oops, oops.
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