In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:
🧡 Diane’s Italy recap
🧡 Our hobbies and daily moves for getting out of a funk
🧡 Rethinking creativity and productivity
🧡 The stress pandemmy, and playing as grown ups
🧡 Action steps to beat burnout and summer slumps
Episode Show Notes: www.getyourshittogetherpod.com/podcast/episode88
Follow us on Instagram @getyourshittogetherpod
Connect with Diane:
Instagram: @dianeteall
Website: www.diteawellness.com
Enroll in Root Cause Reset (self-study): www.rcrprogram.com
Connect with Adina:
Instagram: @adinarubin_
Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com
Get on the waitlist for Adina’s postpartum program
In this episode of Get Your Shit Together we chat about:
🧡 Diane’s Italy recap
🧡 Our hobbies and daily moves for getting out of a funk
🧡 Rethinking creativity and productivity
🧡 The stress pandemmy, and playing as grown ups
🧡 Action steps to beat burnout and summer slumps
Episode Show Notes: www.getyourshittogetherpod.com/podcast/episode88
Follow us on Instagram @getyourshittogetherpod
Connect with Diane:
Instagram: @dianeteall
Website: www.diteawellness.com
Enroll in Root Cause Reset (self-study): www.rcrprogram.com
Connect with Adina:
Instagram: @adinarubin_
Website: www.adinarubincoaching.com
Get on the waitlist for Adina’s postpartum program
Chow.
Diane:C
Adina:Chow Bella.
Diane:I'm back in the US of a mentally, I don't know. I think I'm still in Italy and physically like still figuring things out. I'm kind of like on your time zone still.
Adina:you've been an early riser. It's my favorite when you're up early.
Diane:Yeah. I'm texting you back at like 7:00 AM
Adina:Mm-hmm.
Diane:I would love to
Adina:I've been waiting, I've been waiting hours already, you know?
Diane:Yeah. I'm picturing this meme of someone just waiting on the bed and like this kid's asleep next to them and it's like you waiting for me to wake up or me waiting for Shabbat to end?
Adina:Yes. That's a good one too, except, um, well, two things. First of all, now that I'm ahead of you, I feel like it ends like it used to be when we were in the same time zone. Like you couldn't talk to me until Saturday night, you
Diane:Yeah.
Adina:Um, but yeah, I've been like, In manic product creation mode Right now, I just like, I have two products that I'm, like, two projects that I'm so excited about right now. Um, which you guys have heard me talk about the postpartum program, but also the community platform that I'm migrating my mentor, my membership onto, which I'm really excited about. But sometimes I get this way where I'm just like manic creation mode and I like,
Diane:Yeah, or maniac creation mode. You've been doing it.
Adina:I know, and Donnie can't listen to me talk about it anymore. And he's like, I really just need Diane and Kim to wake up already, like the whole morning.
Diane:I come back to the group chat and you're like, you guys, I discovered this other feature, so I'm really excited for your members. Sounds great. I love when that happens when you get that burst of energy and just have to remember to like get up and stretch and eat.
Adina:I know it feels crazy. I haven't felt this way since I was like building out SD h h so it's like, it's good and I know really good things are on the other side of it, but I do need to make sure that I'm taking care of me also.
Diane:That's so fun. Yeah. I have a lot of exciting things. I can't believe it's June already. This, that's bananas. But it was such a nice two weeks. I don't even know how long I was gone, 12 days, something like that. So if you weren't following along on Instagram, why not? Um, and we're getting
Adina:actually, somebody, I posted something about the membership and somebody responded like, um, did I miss something really exciting? I was off Instagram cause I was trying to avoid succession spoilers for the finale. And I was like, I respect that so much.
Diane:Yeah. And I'm over here like, I don't know what's going with that.
Adina:sometimes people miss things. Diane.
Diane:Yeah, sometimes they miss things. Well, I was there for a couple of weeks and we'll be back to regularly scheduled gut and hormone health stuff here shortly, but it was a super fun time. So one of my best friends from college, Krista was getting married in Positano, and when she told me we're getting married in Positano, I was like, in May peak season. Okay, I love you. Like, let's go. So if you're,
Adina:do I love you?
Diane:yeah, so Positano is just one of my favorite places anywhere. I studied, uh, back in 2009 for six months. So I've been practicing my Italian, it was good to put it to work. And Psi, the Amalfi Coast is just unreal. I know you, you and Donnie have been there too, right? It's, and Positano is built on a vertical axis. So I mean, plan ahead your transportation. How you're gonna get there. Because there's like one street, the taxis are busy, maybe get a scooter, which is super fun. So I love pasi, but it was peak season. If it wasn't for the wedding, I would not be staying there. I would not be staying there. There's one ferry that can get you to some other nearby towns, but some guests stayed a nearby pri. People were asking the dms too, if I should save, if I, if I could save some of the places that we went. And yes, I've been saving them, so I'll do that. But we stayed in palsy for the wedding. We went to Capri, Neil and I on a romantic boat ride, just the two of us. It was so fun and
Adina:we did that boat ride actually cuz we, we stayed on Capri. Um, what a time there. As you mentioned. The only way to get to our hotel was by foot. So we were like lugging our big suitcases. Cause it was a long trip. We did a little Israel and like, you know, um,
Diane:a honeymoon trip?
Adina:it wasn't a honeymoon, but we did our honeymoon Hawaii. But we were, we didn't have kids at the time. Like we were just, it was like early in our marriage. I think it was right before Minnie was born, right before I got pregnant with Minnie.
Diane:So I went to Italy. Went to Israel. Bopped over there. Yeah. You had to schlep like all kinds of luggage around and it's, I mean there are, there are stairs. On stairs. We were saying it felt posi tunnel feels a little bit like an Mc Escher painting
Adina:Yep.
Diane:because there's just so many stairs. And I was grateful for sure for my strength because we did both bring our suitcases, like wedding attire, all the shoe options, whatever. And also like the rehearsal dinner for the wedding was this beautiful cliffside restaurant in Pano called El Pieta. One of my clients said that she stayed nearby there, which is small world and some people arrived by water taxi. Which is so cool. And they were like, uh, our driver was just haul and ass to the restaurant. I thought I might fly out of this boat, so what a cool way to arrive. So we did Positano, Capri, Pompe. Then after the wedding, we went to Rome, but not before waiting in like the hottest sweatiest line for two hours like Italy. I did not miss the way that they do lines or don't do lines. Or like times I would ask, is the ferry gonna be back up after construction? They're like, we don't know. It might be, it might not. So that was an adventure, but we made it to Rome this past Thursday. That's where I studied abroad and it was cool to show Neil all of my favorite spots. I showed him, there's my bus stop, there's my school. We walked past it. But as you do, had to have the best pasta. Like perfectly al Dante pasta that I missed so much. And we went to the Vatican Museum. There's something new to see there every time. And I also got to meet up with a friend who I haven't seen in literally 14 years since I left, which was so cool.
Adina:That is so nice. I think Italy, I mean, Okay. Hot take. Italy's amazing. But if you are an observant Jew who keeps strict kosher, I always say that Italy is such a great trip to do because there are so many kosher restaurants and also especially in Rome, and the restaurants are the local cuisine. Like a lot of times when you travel as an observant Jewish person and you see a kosher restaurant somewhere, it's just some like shitty falafel place, you know?
Diane:You're like, uh,
Adina:this is like, you actually get to really experience the cuisine and not have to like search it out. So
Diane:Yeah, there was actually a Google Maps, um, that someone shared with us, and I can also share mine once I get that together. And there was a big section of kosher restaurants on
Adina:Yeah. And the Jewish ghetto is like all the, it's really cool.
Diane:Yeah. And speaking of authentic Roman cuisine, so we went to dinner with that friend in Sachio, which last time I was there, that's where I would go clubbing, like, leave my apartment at 10:30 PM Who was I in heels. Oh
Adina:different. Diane, what do you want? Cocaine
Diane:And so we go to this restaurant and afterwards Neil's like, okay, he didn't know that you're, you're, that we're cool with like Pat, we'll do, um, liver certain ways. Right. And Neil's like, was he trying to get us to tap out? So he said, authentic cuisine, I'm down to try any food once. So here's what we had. I'll give like the English names. We had Um, lamb sweet breads. And then I asked my friend, what's your favorite pasta on the menu? And he goes, oh, the rigatoni alata, which is veal intestine. And the server was like, it's very tender because all it's had is milk. So I know some people that's really polarizing, but the cutest animals taste the best. Sorry. And tubular pasta was definitely the choice for this sauce, this dish, because what was intestine? What was pasta? I don't know. It was really creamy.
Adina:There's only one way to find
Diane:So we had that. And then we also had horse diaphragm, which of all the cuts, the diaphragm, interesting choice, but it was like thin flank steak. And then I also really liked beef heart, so they prepared it. It really, in texture, tasted to me like a filet, like filet mignon. It was really lovely.
Adina:hearts are actually like a much, um, less organy organ. You know, I think people are scared of it, but like people eat liver and I feel like liver's much more organy.
Diane:is. It's more mealy and if it's overdone, it's just, ugh. The texture is no good. But I would, yeah, that's, I'd say closest to a muscle meat that people might be familiar with. So if you wanna
Adina:chicken hearts. Chicken hearts are like really mild.
Diane:and just chicken organs in general. This is now an organ meat podcast. But
Adina:Welcome to our Organ Meat podcast.
Diane:on a lighter fair, we did have, like, we did have, uh, Tira Masu. And that was made in house. It was so good. Some like lemon, blueberry, tart, just the whole trip. Just
Adina:definitely ordered that one.
Diane:Yeah. Yeah, he did. And we all got to share because if we're having dinner together, we're sharing our food, whether you like it or not. But I really loved the wine too, and had no issues with it, um, whatsoever. No stuffiness, no headache. And also as we were going home, I was like, Neil, past me, would not have been able to eat all the wine, the tomatoes, the lemons. There's so many, like the lemons, the size of my head, cheese, ice cream, pizza without consequence or without bubble guts. And several women were in my dms like, oh my gosh. Like, I would like to go and do that, but I just can't trust, trust my guts right now. Away from home, and I hate that for you. It does get better. Like I went through this whole trip and when I say past me, I mean like last time I was there, or like 10 years ago, would've had a situation, a situation, eating these foods. I had no tummy problems, the whole trip. And I actually started my period like two days before we were supposed to leave. Like the day that we were, our flight was canceled internationally, which was so annoying. But I didn't have any headaches. I barely had any symptoms, just slight discomfort first day, which is normal. But I was just so grateful for the health I've built because I know in the past I would be anxious about traveling, what's gonna happen in my stomach, or just felt like I needed to abstain from some of these foods for fear of what was gonna happen. And it was just so nice to know that like you can reverse your stomach, your gut issues, you can improve your period and enjoy travel and at such a gift.
Adina:Yeah, I think that's so important to hear because. I feel like there are so many people listening to the show who count themselves out, you know, like, okay, she has no digestive issues, she has a painless period. But like, that's not my story. You know, I think it's so important if, if you are a newer listener and you didn't listen to our early hour episodes where we shared our stories, like know that we have been there, like we struggled, we had extremely symptomatic periods, we had years of hormonal birth control, the aftermath of that tummy,
Diane:Oh, the aftermath. Yeah, the bubble guts.
Adina:it really, it can get so much better for you.
Diane:Yeah. So if you're one of the Cuties that were my dms or you listened to them, was like, I wanna travel there and not feel like shit garba. DM me, I don't know, bubble guts. So I know. So I know that's what you wanna talk about. We can talk about if root cause resets good for you, because you can get your gut together and enjoy all those good foods. So it was such a fun trip and it's good to be back though with my dogs and in the comfort of home after the cancellations getting back into our routine. So yeah, good trip all around.
Adina:That's nice.
Diane:Yee, what have you been, um, whipping up over there? Consuming succession, I assume.
Adina:Yeah, well, we, we slipped into a little bit of a better routine around here. Like all of the kids are sleeping by like seven-ish most nights lately. Um, which has really been necessary and lovely for us. And I started doing this new thing where right after I put ORI to bed, I read
Diane:Ooh.
Adina:book. Yeah. I think like, As you can tell from all of my product creation excitement, I feel like I'm just starting to feel like I can do something other than nurse a baby right now. You know,
Diane:Yeah.
Adina:I'm like, it feels a little bit like my brain is coming back to me. I am still waking up a few times at night to feed him, but it just feels a little bit more predictable and manageable. I don't know.
Diane:Do you read and feed?
Adina:I can, I can't really do anything else. Why feed also cuz he's nuts. Like he's just always looking around. Like
Diane:He's reading the book.
Adina:even if I like grab my phone for something, like he's just like, I can no longer eat. What is that shiny, bright thing, you know? Um, so yeah, I feel like I was counting myself out of reading so much cuz like I've just felt really cloudy and scatterbrained and like, reading felt so much harder than scrolling and such. But I was just like, nah, enough of that. Like my new routine is I put him down, I
Diane:I'm a person who reads, I'm a person who reads a book.
Adina:And it's felt really nice, even if it's just like three pages, just something has felt really good and we'll actually talk a little bit more about that later in the episode. But that's been going on. And then we were catching up on some of our shows, so obviously succession, but we are not caught up yet. So no spoily for succession.
Diane:No spoilers.
Adina:and then the Maisel finale and that was a series rap on Mrs. Maisel.
Diane:Oh.
Adina:So I definitely have thoughts and feelings, but we're already pretty long on this intro, so maybe I'll share'em a different time. Um, but quick one, we did start this show Platonic, which is on Apple and it's Rose Burn and Seth Rogan. And it's like they're rekindling a platonic friendship from college or something and love them both so far. The pilot just had a whole bunch of hilarious Jew jokes that were just perfect for me and. Yeah, it's, it's delightful. It's like we are two episodes in and it's cute. It's like a easy, it's easy to watch, you know?
Diane:it's going to turn romantic?
Adina:I don't know. I guess we'll have to wait and see, but it's delightful. And then on the food front, it was Donnie's birthday last week,
Diane:Happy birthday, Donnie.
Adina:this week. What is, what is time? It was Donnie's birthday this week, and we, me and the kids, like, they get so excited about like family celebration stuff. So in the afternoon we kicked him outta the house so he could have a few hours to himself at the beach. And we baked him a birthday cake. And the kids were so cute. Like it was such good teamwork. They were working so hard. We baked a gluten-free chocolate cake with an espresso buttercream frosting, and it
Diane:Oh.
Adina:delicious. The buttercream like, I don't know why I've never made espresso buttercream. It was so yearMy.
Diane:So how did you do it? Did you do just put a little bit of straight up espresso or do you I love, um, espresso powder. I used to use that a lot in like, everything I baked.
Adina:No, I just pulled a shot of espresso. I pulled a single shot of espresso and I put like probably three teaspoons of it in, in the frosting instead of like a cream or something using like a splash of cream to, to smooth it out a bit. And man, it was so yummy. And the kids loved it. They love like
Diane:Mm. Caffeine
Adina:Yeah. No, there,
Diane:there's not much.
Adina:tea. Yeah. But in the whole cake there was like three teaspoons with espresso, but it was really delicious.
Diane:Did you decorate it? Did they put like little cutie things in the frosting or you just frost it up? Traditional?
Adina:because we reached their attention span quota up by the time we frosted it, you know?
Diane:Yeah. They're like, I'm done. Well, happy birthday Donny. Love it.
Adina:Yeah.
Diane:Um, before we get into the meat and potatoes here, Cassandra Lee, hashtag Cassandra Lee, understood the assignment when I, uh, invited you last episode to leave us a five star review and your thoughts, your feelings about the show. So thank you so much, Cassandra. And yeah, you can pause this and leave us an Apple Podcast review too. But Cassandra says A full lesson, a week exclamation point. I've listened to every episode since the beginning. Love, love, love this podcast. Oh, we love you. Adina and Diane have a unique way of turning otherwise semi boring unless you're a nutrition nerd. Like I'm sure a lot of us listening are info, super fun, entertaining, and often l o l hilarious.
Adina:We got you. Good.
Diane:Yeah, the, the thorough job explaining their topics all while making it digestible. A easy to listen to and easy to follow, even if a topic feels over your head. I've learned so much from them so far. And look forward to each new episode every week, every Tuesday, baby. Well, almost every Tuesday you can tell both women are passionate about what they're talking about. Yes, each episode and the format is my fave, especially the back and forth banter at the beginning. Ah, yeah, keep up the hard work ladies. It doesn't go unnoticed, and it is much appreciated.
Adina:Oh, Cassandra,
Diane:Cassandra, my eyes are wet.
Adina:you shouldn't have.
Diane:Suddenly my eyes are wet. Like these re these truly make our day our make our week. And I mean, we put a lot of our love, our passion into this show. And I'm, and I'm really grateful for those of you who take time to listen to us every week, to share it with friends and to leave reviews like this because this truly helps us reach more women. Who this might help. So thank you so much.
Adina:The best. Thank you, Cassandra. Thank you to all of you.
Diane:Yeah. Leave a review.
Adina:here. Yeah. Leave us a fucking review
Diane:So, so what are we talking about today?
Adina:May omi. This is a good one. It's actually, this is, um, it's destiny. This is bash shirt as we say in Yiddish. Um,
Diane:Adding it to my list. A new word?
Adina:I texted Diane in the morning and. I was like, we should do this episode about beating burnout. And she was like, what? Literally last night I was thinking that that's what we should talk about this
Diane:And my bubble bath
Adina:yeah, mine was probably in the shower, so you
Diane:where all the good ideas come. Mm-hmm.
Adina:So yeah, I think I, maybe we were just thinking about it getting into summer and feeling what's been working for us. So I'm really excited to talk about this topic. It's something I've been thinking about a lot lately. So, shall we?
Diane:serendipitous. Yeah. So this episode is for you if you felt stuck in your routine, maybe you've felt scattered, stressy depressing, especially after the last few years. Like what is a global panini? Oh my gosh. And then maybe your life feels black and white or just without joy. Or perhaps you're someone who knows that you've been scrolling a lot, but you don't know how to stop or just how to add some color back into your life. So if any of those are hitting, then this episode is for you.
Adina:Yes. Yes. So, so important, so excited to talk about it. I think I, I didn't quite realize like how stuck I had gotten in just like consuming mode and just like comparison game and feeling a little rote and routine. Um, yeah.
Diane:that goes for you if you're a business owner like we are, you're self-employed or if you're just feeling
Adina:going through the
Diane:Yeah, I'm hearing that from a lot of friends too. Especially coming out of the pandemic out of the last few years. Um, it was like, it kind of just went back to normal, but we all didn't collectively like process things and we're like, what is time? Why do I feel so crummy? I know we've talked about some of these things in the group chat and one-on-one, so I'm sure that other people are feeling this way too.
Adina:yeah. I think like I was starting to really feel everything cave in on me when we were still living in New Jersey and like moving out here was such a big attempt at just like breaking the pattern, you know, and like just doing something completely different with our lives and. Just walking away from a lot of the routine that we knew. And so that was definitely really helpful. But then like coming out of postpartum too, I was trying to kind of find my spark again a little bit, you know, like I was feeling good day to day and I was just like enjoying my baby snuggle time and enjoying the scenery out here. And like my ability to go for beach walks every night, like those kind of things were really, really good. And so I didn't quite notice just how like, not my creative self I was feeling.
Diane:Yeah.
Adina:And I think a big, like the last couple of weeks resurgence for me was I've been reading this book Stolen Focus that I had told you about and highly recommend like, so it's a nice accompaniment to the thing we're gonna talk about on this episode. But it just really shifted things for me. I think it helped me to kind of pinpoint what I was feeling, like what. Was just the task switching and the inability to just,
Diane:Break the pattern,
Adina:yeah. And like allow my creativity to be its usual self and the things that you need to kind of like free up in order to feel that alignment with your creative. And so, I don't know, I've just been feeling really, really good lately and I wanted to share more about it. Cause I know that when you're in that place where you just like don't quite realize why you're so stuck and stuck, scrolling and stuck, just like not using your time the way you wanna be using
Diane:Yeah. And not just in a productivity sense, but like you were saying, like feeling kind of dull. Like, where's my creative creativity? Am I even creative? You don't have to be an artist, a, a traditional artist to be someone who's creative, but I, I definitely felt that too. Like this, it was, felt like a really long winter, a really long season, the last couple of years where, like you were saying, there are good things day to day, but it just felt kind of blah. And then I think it's easy when we feel that way or feel stressed, anxious, depressed, angry to, to numb, to go to those scrolling, to get
Adina:Mm-hmm. It's easy, right?
Diane:Yeah. And I would sometimes catch myself thinking like, I don't feel great. Like, I have so many things to be grateful for. So many, like, I have a lot of privilege to in my life, for which I'm grateful for, but why am I not feeling great? Why do I not feel like creating? And then I take a step back and realize, oh my gosh, the beginning of the pandemic 20 20, 20 21, being self-employed, a bus, small business owner. I went hard hustling for a few years, and now that I look back and have some space from it, I thought, oh, I, while I was doing that, I wasn't making as much space for play, for creativity, for rest. And I would know that I felt bad, but not exactly what, what that was just that I, I feel kind of blah. So I'm gonna, I'm gonna scroll the TikTok, I'm gonna watch this show for hours on end and just feel kind of unfulfilled. And it's, I think we both are finding hobbies, finding things again that we missed and things that we thought are for, for people with more time. Right, but that play is not something that's just for kids, and it's not something that's, um, you know, four years from now.
Adina:yeah. Not to be neglected, I think, um, something you said hit me also, like you said, not in a productivity sense and. Not just about productivity and like specifically the opposite. You know, specifically not what conventional society thinks of as productivity. And I think that's where we get ourselves into these patterns where we end up just like busying our time and it just doesn't feel good, you know?
Diane:Yeah. Busying our time, or this is something that many of you might resonate with, especially if you've dealt with like chronic symptoms. Chronic illness is okay. Maybe you haven't had time for hobbies. You, you're someone who gets a lot of shit done, but then. What you create as a hobby or a personality might be like healing and researching that. So then your free time is spent on that and not much time for play or for rest. And that can be really exhausting too. So I don't know where I was going with that, but that's just something that's been on my at the forefront of my mind, especially talking to new clients lately and reflecting over the last couple of years how that's, that time's been spent, you know,
Adina:Yeah, and it's funny, we've talked about this on the show before, but I think like this is the value in hiring a coach for the healing side of things, hiring a coach for the fitness side of
Diane:for the plan.
Adina:because you can just stop researching. You know, like we often encourage our clients, like when you are in our container, when you are going through our coaching programs, don't listen to other podcasts, don't read other nutrition books. Like don't, just don't,
Diane:do you like drinking from a fire hose?
Adina:yeah, just watch the modules, do the action steps, and then at the end of 12 weeks, if you really feel like you still need to research, go ahead, get on with your bad self, but, For right now. Let's take that off your plate. And just like I was talking about this on my Instagram stories today too, like something that comes up for me a lot when I'm building a new program is I know all this stuff. Like I've spent the last 10 years building my knowledge base on this thing. And the really hard part about building a program is not taking all the stuff I know and putting it into the program. It's distilling it down into the simplest pieces that will get the result. And I've been thinking about it even more because in the postpartum program, I'm thinking about these moms that are sleep deprived that just wanna feel good, that have so much on their plate. And I'm thinking so strategically about how can I simplify this even more? How can I make this like absolutely sleep deprived, idiot proof, you know, like, and.
Diane:Simple.
Adina:that is such a huge value for you when you're in a season where you just have nothing left to give and you feel so run down and you feel like you wanna feel better. So you're trying so hard to research it and follow all the pelvic floor Instagram accounts and you know, and it's just like, it's just gonna make you feel exhausted taking in all that information and not fixing the things, not moving the needle, not getting to the result you wanna get to.
Diane:Yeah. I mean, cc me, I, um, I mean, I kind of talked about how stressful the last couple years were, especially as a, a business owner and having to have the boundaries and the capacity to serve people. To serve my clients, going through really personal stuff, whether it's fertility challenges, whether it's autoimmune stuff. So I've had to be extra aware and cognizant of my, my rest. And in the last year, I've hired or started working with people on my health because I felt like my stress was impacting my health. And there was a time, I mean even the last year, where I thought, oh, I mean I should know this. I hold myself to a different standard, right? But then like my skin started freaking out. I was, my cycle was wonky for a little bit and I was like, you know, I do know a lot of these things, but I'm going to have someone help me and brain the plan so that I can focus on resting more. And that's been really nice. The last six months to a year is really committing to asking for help and to really doubling down on play and not focusing so much on. Like the productivity, the output as much. So asking for help in play has been key, and I know we both have been finding different ways to play to revive our hobbies or create new ones, which is really fun.
Adina:Yeah. I think that is so, so important. I'm sure a lot of people listening to this show resonate with that too, because we do have a whole bunch of practitioners who listen and you may be thinking like, oh, I know this. Oh, you know, but then like we talk about too, like if your life doesn't show it, you don't know it.
Diane:Like we're never above the basics. Even us, like we still go back to the same basics that we both teach inside of our programs. Yeah.
Adina:and I, that in inspired me to say this too, because. I know we talked about this on a recent episode about, you know, healing and expectations, and we are not by any means perfect. We have these tools to help other people, but when I was visiting, um, New York, New Jersey, like I went to see my pelvic floor physical therapist and there's still like two patterns where when I progress load or I progress intensity, I'm leaking. And I think an old version of me would be like, but I know so much and I am so intentional with my programming, like, how is this happening? And to have, I mean also I do have grace for myself and I know that I'm not sleeping and I'm only nine months postpartum that, you know, like it's not, we shouldn't be normalizing dysfunction, but not feeling like we have to be absolutely perfect to not to feel successful, you know? But. I went to see my pelvic pt and just to have someone that is great and strength focused, have an outside set of eyes on what's going on with me and be able to offer up, you know, add this to your move prep shift, the way you're doing that and having someone else simplify it so I don't have to sit there racking my brain and shifting things around and trying this and trying that and yeah, that helps so
Diane:it's nice to feel taken care of too and that someone else is in your team, on your team in your corner, which is really nice. So tell me a little bit more about the book that you've been reading and like new hobbies. I mean, you haven't read in a while cause you haven't had space for it, but I'm excited.
Adina:Yeah. And it came down to, I was like, okay, let me make space for this, because actually something that they mentioned in the book that hit me was like, sometimes, you know, sometimes when something is said so simply, it's like, it just, it's a gut punch, you know?
Diane:Yeah.
Adina:And one of the lines in the book was like, I just started to notice that when I spend more time on social media, I don't like the person that I am. And when I spend more time reading books, I do like the person that I am. And it's not to say that, you know, all social media is terrible and there's nothing good is coming from it. I mean, look at our amazing communities that have come out of that, but, and you know, our friendship and our friendship with lots of other friends that we've made through the space. But it's just, I think, important to evaluate how we're spending our time and how we feel around these things. And specifically when we get to that place where we're really just numbing. And I think that like
Diane:like waking up and scrolling, catching those screen rises, doom, scrolling. I never feel good when I start my morning that way, and it like kicks off that cycle where all day you kind of check in your social media, checking your email. feel good.
Adina:it doesn't, and it's not like I've really liked the angle that this book is taking, because you might think a book like this is like, okay, sure, sure, sure. We get it. We're all on our phones too much, you know? But there's just been a lot of really interesting discussions inside the book
Diane:I love this book club.
Adina:I know, it's so cute. Should we tell'em to read this book before they listen to this episode? Um, just surrounding like the idea of productivity and how we think of productivity. And I know I fall into that trap all the time, like especially in the postpartum season where I'm not getting as much done, quote unquote as I'd like to. And then I go out for a walk with Orrie and the carrier and I'm like, what can I be listening to? Like what you know?
Diane:learning right now while I'm Yeah, like habit stacking.
Adina:Yeah. And I think it's so important to just not, you know, and it's gonna feel really uncomfortable at first, like if you've been filling your time and space with lectures, podcasts, audiobooks, scrolling, like if you cut out any of that stuff, it could feel really uncomfortable and it could really make you feel crazy. And it's just like, ask yourself how long it's been since you just like let your mind wander and didn't think like, oh, I need to, I need to do this, I need to touch that. I need to check this.
Diane:Mm-hmm. This is especially important for you. I mean, CC myself. Sometimes I've caught myself where I fall into this cycle, right? Where I'm listening to something back to back. Whether that is I'm cooking, so I'm watching something or listening to something, and then maybe I'm on a walk listening to a podcast or an audiobook. And then just back to back where. It's almost like I'm doing that to stop myself from having a thought. I don't know, especially I know that I've noticed that I've done it when I am in a season that is more stressful and it doesn't feel good. It can feel, like you said, uncomfortable to have that quiet space. But when I don't allow myself that quiet space, what happens when I turn off the light finally at the end of the night is all the browser tabs are open in my brain. My brain. It's like boo boo, boo boo. Like remember when you would get, like, this is how you would know that you got a virus from downloading all the music. Um, what was on Limewire? That's
Adina:Nap. Napster.
Diane:Limewire, um, and just so many popups. That's what my brain would feel like when I would just go back to back consuming and looking at things all day without time to just let my mind wander.
Adina:Yeah. And it's interesting too, like sometimes you actively are aware that you're stressed and you're doing it to numb thoughts, and sometimes you're like masquerading as like, I'm productive, I'm
Diane:I'm a productive girly. Yeah.
Adina:yeah. And it's just, let's just not let's, and I found for myself, as I started to implement in the last two weeks, like implementing some things that I've been taking away from this book, I felt my creativity come back to me. Like it was like cr, it's crazy to see what has emerged in the last week here, around here. These here
Diane:creative machine. From our
Adina:I can't even tell you, like I'm thinking more clearly like my it, I really feel like my old brain belongs to me again. It's so
Diane:Like less foggy, more focused. I feel like I used to, and I wonder if this resonates with you, with people listening. I used to think, all right, oh, I'm a great multitasker. So what would I try to do? I would try to like listen to a podcast while I wrote a newsletter, and then it would take me like a few hours to do that versus one task, like one thing at a time. Um, because it just really ruined my, my productivity for work or just my focus in general. And I felt a lot more, I felt like, oh, do I need, do I need, uh, methamphetamines? Do I need Adderall? Like for a time I was like, okay, maybe I need to like give myself less stimulation here. And that helped for me too. I mean, certainly some people, someone's gonna be mad listening to that, but, I mean,
Adina:they'll be mad listening to anything, you know.
Diane:but have you tried not doing all the things at once?
Adina:Yeah, I know. It's pretty crazy. And actually this is really encouraging. I have had conversations with a few youths lately that told me they deleted their tos. Like my cousin, my nephew, his friends, like we were having conversations with them around our Shabbat table and they were saying that like they just didn't like how anxious it was making them feel. And whoa, there's hope for Gen Z. Like, look at that awareness. I love that. And it made me really happy. And it's not to say that like, you know, there's some fun stuff on TikTok. It's fine if you like that, but let's just be aware of how we are consuming this drug cuz what's important to, to recognize also is like, okay, if you're working on something or you're reading something or you're playing with your kid and then you feel this like urge to pick up your phone or check that thing or answer that thing, whatever it is. When we task switch like that, it's not just the time we're wasting doing that thing. It's like we then have to spend time getting back into focus of the thing that we're originally doing. Like, it's so, it's so much to ask of your brain. And I've always had an issue with, you know, I'm, I'm a very like, scattered creative thinker. Like, I always need to be doing a thousand things, but. I started to really challenge myself, like, was that a story I've just been telling myself my whole life? Cuz like I had blood sugar issues and I had like all this other stuff
Diane:sugar part is huge. We've talked about that in other episodes for focus too.
Adina:Uhhuh or I just didn't like the stuff I was doing. Like when I'm locked in on a task and I like, I'm really enjoying it. I could be there for a while,
Diane:Like, wait, legit. When I worked at the ad agency and I was, I had to talk about ceramic steel panels. I was like, am I dumb? Or is this super fucking boring? Rather like eat glass.
Adina:Yeah. No, thank you. Um, but I've been challenging myself now. Like when I'm working on a task and I'm working on something I'm busy with something, like if I feel an urge to do something else, I, I just try to like, Ask myself what that's about. Be aware of it. Figure out how to shift my focus. And it's not to say you have to be like laser focused on every single thing you're doing, but just some more awareness around it. Cuz this is the stuff, this is the stuff that contributes to burnout. Like you just don't even realize when it starts to pile up and the way that you've been feeling. And then you start to get like guilty and shamey and mad at yourself cuz you're not getting the stuff done. And then you're
Diane:enough done. Da da.
Adina:now I'm not a productive member of society. You know? Um, and then last thing about this book, cuz this was kinda like my biggest takeaway, and I think it's a thing that's felt the best for me, the, these last couple weeks was this discussion around creativity and how we, it just really took the pressure off creativity for me because especially I identify as a creative person and I wasn't feeling creative lately. And Diane's making silly faces. Um, And I, I feel like we think of creativity as this thing where we have to like pull stuff out of thin air. And there was this conversation around how creativity is taking stuff you already know and synthesizing it, organizing it in a way. And like, it's not all this like learning new stuff and finding new things. It's, it's all in there, you know? And I think that
Diane:the surface when you have.
Adina:yeah. Yeah. And that really, like, it freed me up a little bit and it felt really good to just like, walk on the beach, listen to my thoughts. And like, it was as if I got struck by lightning this week. Like all of a sudden just everything clicked,
Diane:Mm-hmm.
Adina:you know?
Diane:Yes, I've seen it and I love it because the energy in the group chat has been a high vibe.
Adina:I love it. I love that for us.
Diane:Yeah. Um, that book definitely is on my list. You said it was deep focus, I believe we'll put it in the show notes. Duh.
Adina:Stolen focus.
Diane:Stolen Focus. I'm sure there's also a deep focus book. Stolen Focus, uh, reminds me of the book Burnout. The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle, which I felt really held by and like, I mean, here I am, like listing a book that could potentially be like a learning thing. Um, but I felt like the chapters there were really short, but it just really. I mean called my ass out in a few ways of the way that I was operating the last couple of years. And I think so many of us, especially if you're someone who's driven, you're a, a recovering perfectionist, currently a perfectionist. We may have some of those leftover stories from childhood, from being the good girl in school where you have to always be doing something. You have to be the supermom, you have to have the full-time job and stay so busy. And then you might tell yourself that play enjoys is not for you. So I love thinking about creativity in a different way. And I mean, maybe you noticed, like the idea that we had for this episode happens when we're in the bath, in the shower where you don't have your phone in there probably. And so that's where like, that's where some great ideas happen. It's also my favorite place to tap to do some tapping. Mm-hmm.
Adina:I think, okay. This is an important piece before we shift into this next part of the conversation, and that is around how, you know, we talked a little bit about how if you bring awareness to this thing and then you try to, you know, limit your screen time or make some other shifts in your life, it might feel really uncomfortable because. You need to replace that with something, it's not like you're gonna just like chuck your phone out the window and all of a sudden have the skills to be with your own thoughts all the time. Like you need to kind of find the things to fill the space, to fill the cup, to help you find more solitude. Quiet, you know, stillness.
Diane:Yeah, it doesn't have to be meditation either.
Adina:yeah.
Diane:I feel like my neighbor is mowing our grass. He is. And
Adina:U grass.
Diane:grass, because it's very long from our vacation. And there is gonna be a point where he drives by the window and we lock eyes. He's probably just sick of looking at it, but we are on vacation and he's, he's shirtless. Oh. Would it be awkward if I pull down the blinds? Like I'm busy so yeah, my neighbor is, is mowing our grass, our vacation grass.
Adina:So passive aggressive.
Diane:Is it? Which like, I mean, it kind of is, but also like, sorry, he had to look at it. We just had other things to do since we got back. But yeah,
Adina:The suburbs are wild.
Diane:yeah, I mean, he might look, I'm trying not to make eye contact with him, but now I don't have to go do it, so that's fun. So you might hear some ambient noise, but let's just pretend it's like white noise. Oh, it's just so annoying. But more annoying would be talking to him right now, so, yeah.
Adina:So your little shitheads, you just gotta put up with it.
Diane:Yeah. So where were we, friends? All right, let's talk about play. What does that mean as an adult? For me, it is. It is hobbies, it is, um, in Italy they say the sweetness of doing nothing. Like just doing things that are, that only have the purpose of enjoying it. Right. So not something that's productive. We don't need to also monetize all of our hobbies, which I'm, that's definitely come up for me. I've been sewing, if you've been following me on Instagram, I've been sewing, making bags and people are like, where's the Etsy shop? And I'm like, dude, right now I'm just having fun making bags. And that has been so fun. It's something that I thought that I wanted to try for years, but I thought, oh, like how am I going to learn? Oh, where do I even start? There are so many ways to learn a new hobby now, which is really cool. Skillshare, I think I mentioned on a past episode maybe, but art classes, photography classes, um, you can learn a new program all through that membership. So I have that. But for me, sewing and reading have been my. Means my joy right after work. Like I look forward to coming into my office now because I set up a sewing desk station next to this desk I'm recording at right now. And since January I've made a couple of quilts. I've been making bags. I'm making a cross body like fanny pack right now with the help of my wonderful mother-in-law. Like it's just been so fun to work with my hands, and that is something that has been so key for my mental piece as someone who works on the computer, on screens so much and is doing such a personal service in doing nutritional therapy with clients. Like working with my hands and just creating for the sake of creating, getting back to creativity has been so much fun.
Adina:Yeah. That's awesome. And like you said, like you don't have to monetize it. It can just be for you, it can just be fun and Yeah, like taking an online course for photography or painting or something like that, like is not the same thing as just like being a course who for, you know, like health
Diane:Course collector. Yeah. We both, we've opened there
Adina:yeah. Like I, I'm, I'm a big fan of just. Like if you need to sort something out, find the expert that you jive with, pay them the high ticket to get you straight, and then do fun stuff with your time. Just don't be obsessed with your healing journey and making
Diane:like that's not a hobby. Yeah.
Adina:all about that. Yeah.
Diane:Yeah. And I thought too, I mean, prior to taking up sewing and like years ago, I used to love watercolor. I loved drawing with, um, prisma color markers. And I would even do like, I would draw on the iPad and that fell away for like the last. Few years I would draw here or there, but I really realized how much I missed it and just being creative. And I think maybe I also held back from taking up a hand on hobby, like sewing bef, because I thought I'm going to mess up and recovering perfectionist. I, I think it has really helped me in the last few months make mistakes because you're gonna make mistakes sewing, there's a seam ripper for that. And I took a class with my mother-in-law quilting class, and the instructor was like, there's no perfect. Like when I cut something wrong, I sewed something wrong. She's like, there's no perfect. And so that's been a nice, a nice reminder. Um, but I really missed it. And reading has been fun too. I did notice, like last year I read a ton, I wanna say it was like 42 books or something like that, just back to back to back. And this year I'm giving myself a little bit more space to read because I think at times I was just reading so much and I didn't have as much of that white space that time with my thoughts. So
Adina:to marinate on what you just
Diane:totally like the plots start to
Adina:Oh, wait, that was this. Yeah, that was this other really interesting piece of it too, is that I was saying how it's not like you can just like throw your phone out the window and then it solves all your problems. It's like we've gotten so used to scrolling that so many of us are scrolling books and we're not consuming them in the way that really fills us up. It's like, oh, we're just trying to hit our good reads quota. You know? And like, I think it really makes a difference when you do take some space and just enjoy a book the way that it is intended to be enjoyed and integrated
Diane:go. Quality instead of quantity. I mean, there are some people on TikTok who are like, this is how I read 300 books this year. I'm like, holy fuck. How, and some of them are, are sure easy breezy, um, booked. Some of book talks into the, the muddier side and those are like, there's not much plot there. You could probably breeze through those. Like it's a difference between, there's a difference between those and like, I dunno, toll toy, which, why, why does anyone have that much to say? Have you seen how thick some of those books are? Um, wh why, why'd you have so much to say? But I'm trying to par down.
Adina:the girl recording her 88th podcast episode.
Diane:But you know, I mean like 2000 pages or something. Yeah, yeah. Um, but trying to go a little bit slower with books, really enjoy them. And also giving myself the freedom to quit books that just outright suck. Like I'll try to power through some, but if I really hate it, a time is currency. We are moving on. We are DN fing. We are do not finishing, did not finish this book. You know.
Adina:Yeah, I think I like it. Um, another thing to ask yourself is, does your fitness feel like a chore or does it feel like play? Because for me and for my athletes, we play, you know, and when I see like videos on the interwebs of people, Doing their like body building workouts. It just looks so fucking boring and like a job,
Diane:like explain to someone what, like what might be a boring body building workout and of, of course, this varies but like repetitive
Adina:okay, today's today's shoulder day. So I'm doing my front raises and my lateral raises and mys and my those and it's just like all these accessories and reps and like, oh my God, it looks so boring.
Diane:So many things or, yep. I'll be here for a few hours, like I'd like the rest of my evening or my morning, or whatever that workout may be. That's so
Adina:Yeah. But not to say, and it's not to say that fitness isn't hard and shouldn't be hard, like you should work hard in your workouts, in your sets and like, it should feel hard, but it should also make you feel like an athlete and make you feel. Like you're having fun and getting explosive and learning new skills. Like if you've been on one of my classes, you know what we're talking about.
Diane:Get explosive, explosive lips, not diarrhea.
Adina:Yeah. If your fitness feels like a chore, like, you know, find new fitness, find something that makes you feel like a fun athlete,
Diane:Yeah, I love it. I was actually talking to someone yesterday, um, at the bank and she's like, I need to go get my workout in.
Adina:you were, I would never talk to someone at the
Diane:Well, I had to go, I was like a procrastinate, I'm opening up account. It doesn't matter why I was at, but I was there and the person there, she's really friendly and she's like, oh, well it's super hot out. I gotta go get my workout in. Um, walking on the treadmill. And she said like, I wanna bur, I wanna build some muscle. But I think she said something about like, you know, lifting is unapproachable or just don't know where to start. And I was like, hello, I know someone who can help, help you out. Um, I think she might listen to the start of listening to the show, but I was like, it can be fun, I promise you. Like if it's not fun, we're not doing it like. It'll make you better at your life. So let's make our workouts play instead of just something that we dread for sure.
Adina:Yeah. Or like find a straight up hobby that is not that, you know, like I think that cardio gets this like terrible reputation because so many people have had such a disordered relationship with over the years, myself included. But why don't you find something that you love to do as a kid that still gets your heart pumping and allows you to have fun with friends. Like we've played a few games of pick
Diane:Like LARPing.
Adina:here with some friends. Yeah.
Diane:Do you know what LARPing is?
Adina:oh no, I don't What? I
Diane:you just said, I mean, I did interrupt you. I'm sorry. He's a LARPing. Live action. Role play.
Adina:Oh, nice.
Diane:I'm Sailor Moon and you are, um, sailor Venus. And anyway, what were you saying that you liked?
Adina:This is the moment when everything derails today. Um, yeah, we played a couple of games of pickup volleyball on the beach and that's been really fun and I'd like to get back to
Diane:Hands free.
Adina:no. Oh my God,
Diane:That's a thing in
Adina:wish I was that kind of athlete. Yeah, it, if you have not gotten your heart rate up, just like running and jumping in the sand with your friends lately, or playing a game that you love to play as a kid, then maybe do that instead of trying to force yourself on a treadmill or a StairMaster for an amount of time, you
Diane:go frolic. Yeah, maybe go frolic or skip. Like try to be in a bad mood. After you skip around the block, I might skip over to my neighbor's house and ask why he thought he needed to mow the grass right now.
Adina:Be aggressive. Aggressive.
Diane:Yeah. Not passive aggressive. Aggressive, aggressive. Yeah. So try sip. Try skipping. Um. My cardio was doing like lots of walking on our trip. Um, does travel count as a hobby? I don't know.
Adina:Totally.
Diane:Yeah, more of that
Adina:It's pattern interrupting and fun.
Diane:Sometimes stressy, I'd say the cardio waiting for the ferry was stressy missing our
Adina:Those fairies are so nay. Like I remember on our trip I was like, like a puppy, like sitting on the back of the ferry with my tongue out because like going on that bottom level was like the most nauseous thing on earth.
Diane:I didn't see, I miraculously didn't see anyone bark. Like Neil wasn't feeling great the day after Negron and the wedding and I really thought like, I don't know how this is gonna go. And it was hot. We're sitting in the port and it's just like rocking around. That doesn't do it to me. I'm like, surprisingly fine In all the switchbacks. In Positano by the way. Like we heard that to be a taxi driver there, you have to go through intense. Training, schooling and they could legit be like Formula one drivers tearing around those switchbacks. And I remember one of the drivers was like, yep, some people lose it going around these curves.
Adina:Well, it's also like getting off the ferry and then getting in one of those is like, oh,
Diane:Yeah. And if you just say it, a bunch of pasta and pizza.
Adina:Mm-hmm. Hold onto your
Diane:yeah, if you get motion sickness though, we gotta talk. Cuz that's a, let's work on that. Liver gallbladder health. Your blood sugar, your gut health. Yeah.
Adina:Yeah. If you didn't know that, that wasn't just genetic now, you know?
Diane:Now, you know, so you've been doing pickup volleyball. Love that. Um, what else? Start sewing. We've been reading. I feel like those are all my hobbies. What am I missing? Cooking. That's one.
Adina:that's true.
Diane:yeah, I,
Adina:I've been sour doing a lot
Diane:dowing is definitely a hobby baking. Um, I used to think, I mean, I thought of strength training too, but I feel like that's also just. Necessary self care. So it's been nice to have reading and drawing and sewing has been my, my main lately, I'd even count thrifting maybe, but
Adina:yeah, that's fun.
Diane:state sailing. It's a sport. A sport.
Adina:I actually really miss, like in-person kettlebell classes because like coaching those is so fun and fulfilling and just community and athletes and Oh, it's so fun. I haven't yet had the capacity for it, but hopefully I'll be able to get that back together one day. Just like some workshops, retreats, things like that, because that makes it really feel like a fun hobby.
Diane:would love that. I'll hop back over or you come to the, to the Midwest.
Adina:You know what? I just don't see that happening.
Diane:Yeah. I don't see you coming over here either. I hate you.
Adina:I'm sorry. Um, we were like talking about going back to Jersey for part of the summer to like hang with my brother and all that, and I just like, can't picture doing that trip again. You know? I feel like we're still recovering.
Diane:Yeah, and you have a few little people in tow as well, so that's, that's a thing. But as far as pattern interrupting and just if we're thinking about coming out of like stressful seasons, what to do when you're feeling like you're in a funk, we obviously have to talk about community and that is such an important piece. I mean, I know I've talked a little bit about this on here when we've gotten a bit more personal or we've definitely had a lot of conversations in the group chat, but through the past few years, that's something that I missed the most, especially if I felt like I was on a different page from say, family members or just couldn't physically see some friends. I really missed community the last couple of years and I would think I was telling you like I didn't really feel like I would, I had dealt with significant like depressing feelings for that long until the pandemic when I couldn't see friends, and I just really missed seeing people other than like, A cashier at a grocery store and when you work from home and just in general, that can be isolating. And it's just something that I've been seeking in this season. Like saying yes to meeting new friends, like we're going to a couple of events this weekend, or um, asking people out on friend dates or chatting with people at the coffee shop. Like that's been so nice. And I would love to do like retreats again. Uh, more group stuff like we just wrapped Root Cos Reset plus coaching last month, sometime last month. And I really love that group. Setting that energy and just seeing people in person has been really lovely for the mental health.
Adina:Yeah. I like I was saying, that's like something that's been on my heart a lot lately is like, what does that look like for me here? Because I do still really value my time freedom, especially with my kids. Like I, I don't want to have to be away from ary especially, and like, My schedule is not as predictable as it once was, so I'm still figuring out what it looks like, but I really do wanna just have a group of people just like sweating together on the beach and laughing with their kettlebells, you know?
Diane:How fun. How, how fun. I would love to do like a cookbook club. I think that could be really fun with like local clients or, um, actually before I really was doing the full-on nutritional therapy thing, me and a couple friends, sexologist Megan and my friend Mary Ashner, she's a, a yoga instructor. We did what we called Primal retreats at like a local gym, and I think we did a class, a yoga class. I did a nutrition chat and that was just so much fun. But on a personal level, just really trying to like, make dates with friends. Everyone's busy and a lot of my friends have moved beyond or outside of. Um, grand Rapids or out of the country. Thank you. Um, so I've had to be really intentional of making plans, and I find that like my busiest friends are the ones that are like, let's pencil it in. We have to like, here are three dates I'm free. Like boom, boom, boom. Let's make it happen. Um, otherwise it won't, you know.
Adina:Yeah. Yeah. And you know, in person it's a thing and it feels a different kind of way in your heart. It's also, I think that when you carve out that time for in person, it's such un uninterrupted time together, you know, like I think that virtual has its place and it can be really, really wonderful. And like I said at the beginning of the show, like I'm so excited for all the changes coming to my virtual community cuz I think it's gonna feel a lot closer and more connected and just like support and fun. But when you are with someone in person, when you take out the time from your day to go to a retreat, you have scheduled in that time as time that that's the thing you're doing. You know, so you don't get pulled away from it as much,
Diane:Yeah,
Adina:I think is so, so valuable. But anyways, summertime is coming. Let's just have some fun this summer, you know?
Diane:let's have some fun. I saw a friend make a summer bucket list, like she drew it out on paper, like get some art supplies out and made a list of fun things to do and I thought, okay, that's what I'm doing. Like it's June What? It's June 1st when we're recording this. Yeah, so I mean, summer is definitely here. It's 90 degrees Michigan hotter than it was in Italy. Like I'm gonna draw out, make my summer bucket list because end of summer every year comes September when the seasons change. I'm like, oh shit, I wanted to go do this. I wanted to go to the beach. I wanted do pick strawberries. So I feel like that's a nice way for me to like transition through season. So just get excited about things and to look forward to play and to getting outside. So, What's on your summer bucket list? It's been full summer there for a bit.
Adina:Yeah, just lots of beaching and I'm not quite sure yet. I have to give it some thought, but I honestly think like, I wanna not, I wanna resist the urge to overschedule myself. You know? Like I want to like, Like, is the bucket list just gonna turn into this to-do list that I need to do? Like, I want to just give myself space. I've really liked the trajectory of the way things have been heading for me these last couple weeks. And so I'm gonna lean into that a lot and try to just like ride this wave of creativity and making space for it and just enjoying those, you know, beach walks and finding fun. And I've been playing with my kids a lot more too, like really just separating myself from the things that I think I need to be busy with and really spending that time with them. And that's felt really, really good. And it's honestly felt good on an entire family level because Donnie and I were just reflecting this week that like, it just feels like there's more peace in our home lately. Like it feels like the kids are just like less dysregulated, less erratic. Like they've just, they feel really secure in. The home, their rhythm, their relationship with each other like it. There were moments this year where, you know, adjusting to a new life, new baby, like there were moments where it felt almost like impossible to be in the house with all three kids without it just like turning into an absolute shit show and we just got to this place right now that feels really in flow and peaceful, and I think that that has a lot to do with it. So I'm leaning into a lot of that. Yeah.
Diane:I love that. That's your, that's your flow now. So more of that, please. So let's round this out with some, some action steps. I mean, as action is, they can be for this topic being like, let's chill more, let's play more. But just some things to round this out. So, Top of the list, especially top of mind after this trip is let's think about Dolche. Ermanente, which means the sweetness of doing nothing. Where can you make more space for that quiet time for you, where you're not multitasking with three different things, not trying to check off every single thing on the ever, never ending to-do list. Right? So give yourself some of that quiet time. This is, especially for those of you who stay busy all day from eyes open to eyes closed, and then you feel like you have that squirrel brain at the end of the night. This doesn't mean that you have to meditate, but that certainly is lovely. But give yourself some more space. Uh, we know we mentioned a couple of books this episode one that I really love and you can make it through like the first couple chapters and then release it. It's called The Artist's Way. And when I have felt like my brain is extra busy, there's a lot going on, or maybe I don't even know, like we were saying earlier, why I'm feeling in a funk, right? The exercise in the artist's way is talking about morning pages or basically stream of consciousness journaling. So this is lovely at the end of the day or the start of the day where I'll just journal for three pages. Couple pages, whatever's in my mind, basically brain dumping. And there's really something to that analog. So you're not typing this on the computer. And then after that, if I have space for it, sometimes I don't. But if I have space for it, I like to do EF T little tapping session on whatever came up. So if you're feeling squirrel brain, you're feeling in a funk, nice way to unload your thoughts is pen to paper.
Adina:Yeah, I love that. I think it's so, because it's easier to use tech, it's easier to brain dump on the notes app on your phone. It's easier to brain dump in a Google Doc and like, maybe we're typing quicker than we're writing, but like there's something magical that happens when you pick up a pen. Like I picked up a pen the other day and I was like, huh, I don't think I know how to hold this
Diane:What is this? You're like fisting it
Adina:feel right. Yeah.
Diane:But also too, when you're on your computer, like notifications can pop up on your phone, something can steal you away again.
Adina:Yeah. Totally. And like just, I think a big action step is just, I. Giving some thought to this, like, do you constantly need to be doing listening, learning? Are you task switching all day? I think it's important to mention that scrolling is not shutting your brain off. We hear this all the time, like, I'm just gonna scroll to turn my brain off. But like, that is so overstimulating and like it's not doing the thing you think it's doing. It's probably making you more stressed out, less relaxed. And it's just like, it's bombarding your senses. It's numbing and it can be so exhausting at the end of the day. Like if you, if you're ending your day just feeling burnt out, I think this is a really good place to examine.
Diane:Yes. Yes ma'am.
Adina:One other helpful tip that I know both of us have used in the past is if you are self-employed or you work from home, or even if you work at a more traditional job setting, um, using something like a palmara timer or like a tomato timer where it's more setting blocks for working and then taking built-in rest intervals. You know, like quite like strength training. Like give yourself the opportunity to just stop. And that doesn't mean after the work block, pick up your phone and start scrolling. It means like step away from what you're doing
Diane:Take a
Adina:just,
Diane:hydrate.
Adina:do nothing. Um, and I love how you, me, you said like, it doesn't mean meditate, but it could mean meditate. Like if you're a person who's always felt like, I can't meditate, cuz my mind starts wandering and I can't just like, think about nothing. Good. Like let your mind wander, follow that trace. Just like let that creativity emerge from all those things you already know being synthesized when you finally have the space to let yourself follow those little mind wandering trails around. And I don't know, it's been doing wonders for me. I would love it for all of you. So maybe give that a shot
Diane:would love that for you. Tell us what's on your summer bucket list. Uh, over on Instagram. Let us know what hobbies you're picking up. Maybe I need to try something new. I don't know. Basket weaving. What else? Embroidery. Who knows? Sourdough.
Adina:when you gonna get your starter
Diane:When will I get my sourdough going? Will I have a couple bags I wanna finish to be continued? But we'd love to hear from you. DM us. Drink your water, unc unclench your
Adina:unc Unclench your bee hole.
Diane:always.
Adina:We love you.
Diane:Bye.
Adina:Bye.