Ever wondered if the hype behind a new fragrance is just a lot of hot air? Well, we've sniffed out the truth for you! Join us, Ryan and Myke, along with Steve from Everyman Fragrance, as we dissect the much-talked-about Gravite by Particle, sharing both the good and the ugly in a no-holds-barred review. We'll even give you the lowdown on our past escapades with Pineward fragrances—spoiler alert: White Fur may just steal your heart. And for our loyal Patreon folks, we've got something special brewing that you helped pick out—let's just say Beaver by Zoologist is in the mix!
Get ready for a rollercoaster of aromas as we compare Gravite to titans like Sauvage and debate whether it's the blue shower gel of the fragrance world. We'll dissect the DNA of this scent, weighing in on its notes—does it have the sophistication of YSL's L'Homme Ultime or the playfulness of Lacoste Red? Our fragrance banter doesn't stop there; we're dishing out our verdicts on whether it's worth your hard-earned cash and if it can truly be the jack-of-all-trades signature scent for every occasion.
Ever wondered if the hype behind a new fragrance is just a lot of hot air? Well, we've sniffed out the truth for you! Join us, Ryan and Myke, along with Steve from Everyman Fragrance, as we dissect the much-talked-about Gravite by Particle, sharing both the good and the ugly in a no-holds-barred review. We'll even give you the lowdown on our past escapades with Pineward fragrances—spoiler alert: White Fur may just steal your heart. And for our loyal Patreon folks, we've got something special brewing that you helped pick out—let's just say Beaver by Zoologist is in the mix!
Get ready for a rollercoaster of aromas as we compare Gravite to titans like Sauvage and debate whether it's the blue shower gel of the fragrance world. We'll dissect the DNA of this scent, weighing in on its notes—does it have the sophistication of YSL's L'Homme Ultime or the playfulness of Lacoste Red? Our fragrance banter doesn't stop there; we're dishing out our verdicts on whether it's worth your hard-earned cash and if it can truly be the jack-of-all-trades signature scent for every occasion.
Hello everybody, welcome to the Cologne Podcast.
Myke:I'm Mike and I'm Ryan. We're two best friends. We're going on a fragrance journey, smelling fragrances and giving you uneducated opinions, and today we've got a very special fragrance, one that's had a hype machine so big.
Ryan:Well, I mean pretty big, I don't know how big, but pretty big right, larger than average. Yeah, sized hype machine Social media campaign that'll make you and you know what we're going to see if it's worth it.
Myke:This fragrance I had seen the adverts, but then our friend Steve from Everyman Fragrance you may have known and loved him from the Scent Geeks podcast he messaged me because we're very best friends and he said I bought into the hype. I bought a bottle and I sent back a screenshot and said I bought it too. Let's do an episode.
Ryan:So yeah, he's here, we're about to do it, but first, oh, did we even say the?
Myke:fragrance, yet it's gravitate by particle and, as usual, we have a Fragrantica review, but we thought we'd do you one better. We've got a positive and a negative. We're going to hit you with the positive first, let you know everything you could come to expect from this fragrance, and then we've got Fragrantica full of trolls ready to let you down. Okay, first we're going to start with the positive, and this is from Timmy over on Instagram.
Ryan:I'm going to do a smell test. Let's see what's better the clone I've been using for three years that was gifted to me by my mother-in-law. Or gravitate, here we go. Mmm, it's masculine but chill.
Steve:What is that? Um, gravitate, it's that video I'm doing for particle.
Ryan:Can you take a break for a minute? Hold on, I'll be done in just a little bit.
Steve:Well, it lasts 12 hours.
Ryan:So, what the fuck? Yeah, I'm done now I think we're taking a shirt off.
Steve:Oh my God, you guys weren't a life-beater.
Myke:Come on, oh my Lord, okay, yeah. So the premise of that is he sprayed it on, oh, I'm doing this. And then his wife in the background says uh, hey, timmy, yeah, timmy, could you put on that wife beater and come in here and give me five minutes of pleasure.
Ryan:I don't need the last 12 hours, stop lying. Oh my God, the last 12?
Myke:minutes Let me just get in here Just five, five minutes, all right. And then we have, uh, we have our review over on Fragrantica from O'Yilla who just says scrap.
Ryan:I feel like that's going to be me today, buddy. Yeah, oh my.
Myke:God. Well, we're going to find out. There's been a lot of money put behind this to make sure that we all know about it, so it must be good and I can't wait to smell it with Steve and my best friend Ryan. But first we got to do that one night stand review, going back in time to smell five different pine word fragrances.
Ryan:Five nights of pine word Hit the music Todd yeah. One night stand review. Well, mike, after spending the night, five nights, with Pine word, what did you think were some of the lows and highs when the what's the one that you liked and maybe the worst one, the worst?
Myke:one Merckwood for me. I think so. I think I got to go with Merckwood, but the best and quite possibly one of the better fragrances we've smelled in 2023. Yeah, white fur.
Ryan:It was shockingly good, shockingly good. I wonder why that one was like so, like a wearable fragrance? Yeah, that would that. We both. I think we both said it's a hard sample to possibly buy, right, depending on what you like If the price was there it would absolutely be a buy.
Myke:Still about A little too much $50 more than I could spend, you know, with a clear conscience on it. But it was badass, it was super badass.
Ryan:The gingerbread one was nice too. It was more of a I want to say Gourmand, I think more scent memory type of fragrance, but it was good. And the tree stuff, which that's what I was trying to find was something that we know, but some of it was a little too real and too earthy dirt and grimy Right.
Myke:So people out there interested in that. I wouldn't be shocked if the majority of these might make their way to being in a diffuser or some sort of you know thing like that, as opposed to just a fragrance.
Ryan:Actually, let me read something from our Patreon. If you're not a subscriber, make sure to head over to patreoncom. Slash cologne podcast. We have giveaways. We have extra episodes. Yeah, we have early access. We have one on one time with me and Mike. We have Lives coming up yeah, we have everything.
Myke:Oh, 2024 is going to be fucking wild over there. It's going to be wild on Patreon.
Ryan:And it's been while we got some great friends of the podcast over there and one that actually contributes quite a bit. He's sent stuff, he's been a patron, he's an avid listener. But I want to read this comment because it was actually. We did a review of Beaver by zoologist over there. That's right. We have a listener that goes by not okay music and we did this review of Beaver and it was a really rough fragrance. Once a week we usually let the patrons pick between two things get an episode created and they've been doing great, they've picked some great fragrances and we've had some good times, but they ended up picking Beaver and it was whoa, it was rough.
Myke:It wasn't as rough as some of the other zoologist fragrances that are out there and available, but it still sings the same note, which is keep going.
Ryan:So he was replying to the episode and hearing our disgust for it. He said lol, I don't know. I think maybe zoologist got it right. When I think of the actual animal, I think of stink glands. Maybe this scent is some kind of olfactory journey into datasm. Is that the word Datasm.
Myke:I don't know how to pronounce it, but basically it's like emphasizing the offness of something, and so I think he was implying that maybe they intentionally made it not as wearable as it should have been.
Ryan:Yeah, it's more of an art piece, right yeah, conceptual in nature. I think a lot of those fragrances from Pine Word I feel like kind of leaned to that.
Myke:Yeah, it's the same thing as we saw with Sombur, which was like nobody would ever wear this. This is disgusting and they're like we did it. We did it, boys.
Ryan:We made it. Your guys are going to fucking puke when you smell it, exactly. Yeah, apparently I feel like in, you know, on Pine Word's website, the gentleman that runs his name is Nick. I believe he even kind of says, like he's not looking for people to really talk about or care, it's just something that he's kind of passionate about. He's not looking for, you know, shilling it and shit like that.
Myke:So he's just having fun with it. The guy really appreciates pine trees.
Ryan:Apparently, I will say you seriously, guys. To get back to what this one night stand review was kind of really about, I will say the white fur is seriously good, got to sample it.
Myke:You really got to sample it. If you are interested in citrus, you're interested in coniferous plants out there. This would be a nice combo because it had that realistic sort of zest off of an orange type smell. It had that realistic pine tree type smell and they worked so well together Very well that I was like, ooh, I want to wear this, but it's too expensive and it's also such a thick, concentrated fragrance as far as oils are concerned, you can't even spray it on light clothes. It'll stain the hell out of it. Yeah, don't even try it, but it is beautiful, I agree.
Ryan:And with that that's our one night stain review of Pine words, kind of a on the house episode Right. And now we have Steve. He's been staring through the camera at us over here waiting for us to shut up and do this thing. Let's smell, gravitate by particle and also say hi to our friend from overseas, steve, hello, how are you doing guys? It's good to be here. I know you've been really excited for us to smell this and this has been going on for about a month or two now. You've been just biting at the bit for us to smell this thing.
Steve:Yes, you in particular. I really want to get your take on this. Obviously, this fragrance is hyped to hell. Yes, mainly because they've just paid a load of influencers to shill it on Instagram and whatnot. So I just kept getting spams on this fragrance. So in the end I annoyingly, I didn't want to buy it because of the marketing, and it was so annoying, but I was also so curious to smell it that I did buy it, so I paid my own money. I definitely did not get a free bottle on this shit. So, yeah, and then I told Mike about it and he was like we're going to get on it too. So this is it?
Myke:I'm excited you have smelled this. We haven't, but we said no spoilers. We're not going to go see your review, so this will be a hot, fresh take for us. On the skin, on the tester strip, you go ahead and run the box.
Steve:I mean, can we just talk about the packaging? Why are you undoing that?
Ryan:Hey, good, because I actually did. I was soon before you got here and we were setting up everything. He put this down and I was like I hate the packaging already. I don't like it. It's fucking awful, isn't it? It's fucking terrible. It like it's already like predetermining like this may be bad.
Myke:What's bad about it? Like listeners.
Ryan:I guess, because what's just like two of the thinnest piece of whatever cardboard this is and it slides up and down to reveal it. Cool, but it's like so cheap and how that it's done. I don't know if it looks.
Steve:it's like a kid's toy, you know, like you've got some sort of car or something and it's like in a box with plastic around it and you slide it on and put it apart. It's that sort of cheap toy packaging. That's what it feels like to me.
Myke:I'll tell you what it really is and it's kind of a bit of an effort to get it out.
Ryan:Yeah, to get that out, the bottle looks, but the bottle.
Steve:I think the bottle is okay. I like the bottle.
Ryan:Yeah, I'm not judging bottles. Let's see you ready.
Steve:I'm ready, let's do it. It's a stiff cap, really. It's really stiff cap, god damn it.
Myke:There you go, fucking sword in the stone. You need to need to hit Arm Day a little bit more, ryan.
Ryan:Jesus, and it's like the cheapest cap. It's like I don't man, the cap's got some weight to it though, though oh, I thought it was metal. I did too. It feels maybe hard to wear.
Myke:Maybe ours is. I think it is metal, I think it's just a thinner metal and it's not a magnet.
Steve:It's not just for the listeners, it's not a magnetic cap, but it is very stiff, it's very solid. You can lift it up by that cap easily.
Ryan:Here we go guys.
Steve:I'm excited.
Myke:Good God, you wearing this shit, whoo.
Steve:Right, right, let's also, before you kind of get into it, let's try and come in at it in a non-judgey place. Let's be open-minded. Absolutely let's come in. Let's forget the marketing, let's forget the packaging. Let's imagine you're in a fragrance store. Someone's just sprayed a strip and said, oh, what do you think to this, sir? Let's just try and clear the pre-judgment sort of from the head and just smell it as a fragrance.
Myke:When Ryan was spraying it, initially I thought sauvage in the air.
Steve:Really, I don't get that.
Ryan:You're not going to believe me there, steve, but I'm with you. But I'll say this I smell it on the card. I do get sauvage, but like a very dainty sauvage just barely there.
Myke:I don't really get it, other than that initial spray. I was like is this kind of sauvage On the skin? Is it not just like a shower jelly, sort of fresh? Yes, yeah.
Steve:I get that. It's like sauvage in the sense that it's a blue shower gel fragrance, but like a side by side. I don't think it smells like sauvage. Tony from Fragdictid he thought it was very much like sauvage, but I just don't get that.
Ryan:I get it on the card. On my skin it's just very. When I say alcoholic, I don't mean like a drink, I mean like literally rubbing alcohol. It's very kind of strong. So I kind of oh, I really smell.
Myke:I was kind of losing it on the card. Honestly, I couldn't really smell it. I can smell it more on my skin. I just did a couple more sprays.
Ryan:I mean, fuck, it's not. Look, if we compared this to blue Atlantis, one that we smelled that time, that was a gem. I feel like this pulls the pants down on that one, but it's like I don't know, you know the thing that sold me on, it was the advert the guy had.
Myke:You seen that?
Steve:one, steve. Yeah, I've seen. And the trouble is all the adverts they all use the same script. So it would be a different chiseled guy. Yeah, talking about you know, oh, it smells this. It's very manly, it's very woody, my wife loves it. In the last 12 hours they say the exact same shit in every advert. Yeah, just because they're well, we say advert, it's not, you know, it's a, it's a fray, an influencer, shill, isn't it Right? But so it's annoying. But I mean, I think it smells nice. I personally, I don't think you can say it's a bad fragrance.
Ryan:I will agree. I will agree. I don't think it's a bad fragrance, but it is very skin scent.
Myke:So far, because it's so generic smelling. It also kind of makes it smell kind of cheap. Oh, it absolutely smells cheap, Not like trashy cheap, just like I probably wouldn't spend what we spent on it. Well, you spent, I didn't spend it, Would you spend? No, I took it out of the joint account.
Ryan:Fuck you. You wasted money on this shit. God damn, oh fuck.
Steve:It is a 100 mil bottle.
Steve:See, I think it smells like two different fragrances. So two fragrances I referenced in my video, and one of them is in particular, is particularly well respected. So I don't know if you've ever smelled YSL, lom Ultime I have not. No See, it smells similar to that. That one it's definitely not a clone. It does smell. It's not like a side by side direct copy of it, but it's got a lot of similarities to it. It shares a lot of notes. That has rosen it.
Steve:This one absolutely doesn't, but it's got a lot of similar notes and it does remind me of that. Yeah, along with there's Burberry Brit Rhythm or Brit Rhythm Intense. It smells a little bit of that because that's got like a spicy vibe, so that's kind of powdery spicy and it's got that as this starts drying down it gets a little bit sort of more sort of peppery spicy, which kind of reminds me of that. So those are the two fragrances. But LOM Ultime is really nice. It's quite I think it might be discontinued, but it's quite highly regarded and that it smells a lot too dissimilar to that. Yeah, it's not bad.
Ryan:It's not bad, but for me, like my personal opinion, like this is To me, this smells like gravitate, maybe found some thrown out Savage bottles behind Ulta or something which is like a store around here. They sell cosmetics and fragrances and I feel like they just like mixed it like one part of this and four parts water.
Myke:So it smells like a watered down Savage, exactly. Yeah, I don't know that. It smells like Savage. I mean Savage kills this fragrance. Oh, a hundred percent. But yeah, to me it smells kind of young, like I feel like if you got this for a teenager they'd be like hell. Yeah, I think they did a good job of making a designer smelling fragrance. But I mean you're getting close to a hundred bucks for a hundred mil. I think, steve, you used a discount code. You told me about it. I use the discount codes. We've got it under 70 bucks, but yeah, I think mine was.
Steve:I can't remember. Yeah, I think I paid six, just under 70 pounds. I could have a look in a minute for a hundred mil. So it's like 67 quid. I'll have a look. Skin's terrible, I can't.
Ryan:But it's not. It's not the worst, it's just not that great. The card stock is the win for me.
Myke:I think a high schooler could wear this, or a guy who just doesn't care about fragrances would probably see the advert that, like the woman in the background, is saying like as soon as he sprays it oh, you know, get in here so I can have a hot, passionate sex with you. You know, like if I was, you know, a guy that wasn't in the fragrances and needed a little help, you know, with the opposite sex, and I saw that advert and bought this, it'd be like smells nice.
Steve:I think it's. It smells perfectly fine. I think it's a good office and it's very inoffensive. I think nobody's going to really dislike it yeah cause you can't smell it If you want that, that daily driver office, then I think it's fine. I think it, I think the opening is very pleasant. I like this. I agree Not. We've not talked about the notes. Actually, that's normally my job when I guest on here.
Myke:Yeah, yeah. You need to show and run how easy it is to pull this after I jarred it loose.
Ryan:Okay.
Steve:Hey, you loosened it. Yeah. So at the top there's bergamot, grapefruit, pepper and rosemary. See, I don't get too much pepper in the top, I get it a little bit further down and then there's paprius, cashmere wood, apple and nutmeg. In the mid and in the base there's musk, cedar, vetifier and it lists ambergris, but we know that's unbroxied and that's not going to be actual ambergris. So, interestingly, it does share a lot of similar notes to a long old team. It shares, like the cashmere wood, the cedar. I'm just going to see if I can find the notes for it.
Myke:I kind of get that apple. It says she has a lot of similar notes.
Ryan:What's that one fragrance? I got you to smell at Drug and Porium the red bottle that I said, hey, me and Todd used to wear that. They kind of smell similar to that too. Oh, lacoste red. It does smell like lacoste red a little bit.
Myke:I like that. There is that sweet fruitiness that when you said apple, I was like, oh, I can kind of smell apple in there, which does make me think of a YSL fragrance for sure.
Steve:Yeah, well, it's interesting. So if we look at like again, just compare the notes just to kind of back my statement up. So it's got the same notes. It's got grapefruit, it's got apple, it's got a cedar, it's got vetiver, it's got cashmere. We had all of those exact same notes are in the long old team as well. So you can start seeing why it makes sense that I said. It sort of reminds me of it, to be honest. But long old teams got Rose, draenium, so it's got a few others that kind of go in a slightly different direction.
Myke:But do you think they were targeting that? You think whoever did this was like hey, here's an idea to kind of I don't know.
Steve:I mean it's funny because as far as I know, I'm the only person that's referenced that long old team fragrance.
Myke:Well, I'm more saying like whoever started this company was like obviously we can't go after a Ventus Sauvage. Those are like two out in the open. Maybe we'll pick this one that people can't even say or pronounce and it could be.
Steve:I think it's certainly the exact same genre as long old team. It's very clean, fresh. This could be a signature scent, like you say. It wouldn't be for a frag head because it's not exciting enough, but you could easily wear this every day. You could wear this in the office at a party in the evening. Yeah, there's, there's not a situation you couldn't wear this fragrance Right, very like unless you were going to a fragrance meetup.
Steve:It's a smell interesting. But other than that it's absolutely a daily driver for the muggle or the average person you know to the gym after the shower something.
Ryan:Yeah, look, I'm going to try to be fair with this. I really do believe this is, like night and day, better than the blue Atlantis thing we smelled a few months back.
Steve:So it doesn't smell bad. Which do you prefer, Mike? I have interest. I mean, it's probably testing your memory, sort of to be fair.
Myke:But if you like the blue Atlantis over this dude, I will say the blue Atlantis did take a shot at a more interesting that black tea sort of thing. It was fresh and it was like almost like and now that I'm thinking about it it makes sense the name because it smelled very wet and like very, you know, hydrated. Hmm, this is like that drier, cleaner. I think that this, overall, is a better wear. I don't hate the blue Atlantis one like you did, ryan. You were just so upset. I think if you had saw a bunch of people in the fragrance community pushing this one, you'd be losing your shit right now on it.
Ryan:Well, I mean I hadn't had a chance to look. Have you seen Steve? Have? I mean you don't have to name names, but have people in our community? Have they been pushing this and like it's? You know an eventus, you know replacement or something?
Steve:No, so I've not seen the proper fragrance reviewers pushing this like they did for that one, like they've been paid. I'd seen a lot of more general Instagram influencers pushing this. I was trying to find some genuine reviews of this fragrance and you can sort of tell the ones that are genuine, if you see what I mean, because they don't start saying, oh, it lasts 12 hours, it does. They don't use that same script. So there's one guy that I think was a genuine review and he was kind of like what he was saying. He was he sort of sprayed it and said it actually smells quite nice. He did sort of say similar sort of things that you know, it's not the most exciting, you know different. It's obviously very safe fragrance, but it's. It smells very pleasant and I think that's probably as strong as you're going to get with this. There's definitely going to be some people that love this fragrance, I think.
Ryan:I agree, I do, I agree. I think there will be some people that like it. I don't hate this. It's nice on the card. It really is nice on the card.
Steve:Up for them. I just looked how much I paid for it and I paid about 60 pounds total, including delivery, because I got a discount code. I saved myself 15 pounds. I don't know what that creates doing dollars, but I would say for me here, 60 pounds for a hundred mil. I think I said in my video. I said that for this fragrance I'm kind of okay with, but I wouldn't want to pay more than that.
Myke:A hundred yeah.
Steve:Yeah, I think that's the limit for me. I think I wouldn't want to pay more than 60 pounds for this fragrance a hundred mil, but I think that that's what price for a hundred mil is. Okay, I can confirm. Well, for my test knit definitely, categorically doesn't last 12 hours. That's bullshit.
Ryan:Yeah, I could tell you that real quickly.
Steve:Yeah, which the thing is. I said in my YouTube video that what really annoys me is the performance on. This isn't actually bad, so they don't need to sprout this. 12 hours bollocks, right, it definitely rains in and it's quite close, wearing after a couple of hours, but it lasts six, seven hours at a push if you kind of go heavy and stuff. So which is fine.
Myke:That's like a working day.
Steve:Yeah yeah, that's plenty. So they didn't need to bullshit and go like last 12 hours. If they just said it lasts a working day, that would have been sufficient and not bullshit. You know, that's what really well me up. I got quite angry by video. I was like it's just needless bullshit.
Myke:Here's a question I have about that, because I'm rewinding my mind to before I really got into fragrances. Yeah, I can't once ever think of going. I wonder how long this fragrance lasts. Never Does this fragrance last 10 hours. I don't remember ever wondering how long the fragrance lasts. Performs one.
Steve:You don't put a number on it until you start kind of sharing, reporting back to the community, as it were. Like I started doing videos, obviously people know how many hours it lasts, they want to quantify it and there's so many factors that can affect that. I think before I would probably before as a sort of frag head, I would probably spray some corner in the morning If I couldn't smell it a few hours later after a bit annoyed, a bit I can't really smell myself or whatever, I wouldn't go. Only lasted three and a half hours.
Myke:You said a timer on your phone.
Ryan:Yeah, we've never like really extensively been like hey, we put this on at eight o'clock and it's 530. It lasted forever. No. I'm with you too? I've really never. I mean, you can just kind of tell when something's going to smell good and last a little bit Right. The whole 12 hour jargon. I guess that's selling points to people, I don't know.
Myke:I think it's like how long is long enough? It's never really an issue until it's an issue. I guess you know what I mean. Like it's never an issue unless it just really did terrible.
Steve:Yeah, you know the thing is, I think, for me personally, I've always said, if it lasts a working day like six to seven hours, I'm happy, because if you were then going to an event in the evening, if that was the case, I would take a fragrance with me and I would top up before I went to the event. If, like, I was wearing that fragrance to work and then I was meeting some people after work for drinks, I would absolutely take a fragrance with me to top up because, yeah, which is 100%.
Steve:So I don't need it to last 12 hours. I just ideally I want it to last until I finish my working day and I can get home or get back to the gym or the shower room or whatever, so I can top up and freshen up. That's it. That's what I need.
Ryan:You just single-handedly destroyed big fragrance. Yeah, trying to chill us with this 12 hour bullshit, because that's exactly what any sane individual does, right, I'm like man, I'm about to be somewhere nice, I've got an extra thing here. I'm going to spray it on for a walk in. I want to mean him. Every time we do a business meeting, we bring a bottle with this and we're like now we'll put it on for even walking the door.
Myke:I don't have to have this 12 hour bullshit, right yeah, our meetings never last that long. Yeah, if I can get a good hour out of this. We're probably doing pretty good.
Ryan:We've literally been like we know this one won't last long, but it smells good yeah.
Myke:Now we'll do it and then open the door. Hey, fellas.
Steve:Yeah. It's not big. For me, when you're talking about performance, it's more. I think, where it's more an advantage? If you don't need, if it's just strong, in the sense that you only need one or two sprays, because then you're getting value for money, because it's going to last longer, your bottle's going to last longer For sure. You're saving yourself money. That is when it starts becoming advantageous, like strength and performance.
Ryan:You guys may have answered this already, but really quick, price and trend price it's a cold dead corpse, okay, but on the trend. But on the price it's $89 on the thing and it's that whole gimmick. If you buy two it's cheaper, if you buy three.
Myke:Oh yeah, who's doing that? I hate that shit.
Steve:Again, that website is shit.
Ryan:It is so shit Thank you who does their marketing?
Steve:Because it actively put me off their website because it's so cheap. It looks like some sort of fucking DH gate, she and Temu type situation it's like oh, who's bulk buying this shit?
Myke:Just resell it.
Steve:You're going to be like I'm going to get 12 bottles and sell it to my friends. Like nobody does that. So the moment I go on there and the moment a website does that whole, oh, 10 hours left. It's like it puts me off, so it actively put me off buying it, but, as I say, I fell for it anyway.
Ryan:And the other part I remember go ahead, go ahead.
Steve:I was just going to say I fell for it. Once years ago, I was buying like a new. We moved into our house that we were in. Now, like years ago, in 2016, and we needed, like I wanted to get a new bed, like new house, new bed. I wanted to get like king size. I was like, and I was like found this website doing these beds and it was like 11 o'clock at night and there was a countdown and I was like, oh my God, I've only got 49 minutes to sign on a bed to get this discount, and I was like panicking in my wife's bed.
Steve:I'm like, oh my God, I'm spending this money. And then I ordered a bed and I swear to God, in front of my eyes it went past like the midnight and the countdown literally started again. It literally restarted in front of my eyes. I was like you fuckers, you got me, you got me so valuable life lesson you learned yeah. I'd never fall for that shit.
Ryan:I'm not going to. I'm not going to say the brand name here, because I actually like particular fragrance they put out. But their website is also dog shit, or at least it was at the time and they do the thing where there's like there's only six left, but when you refresh the page it's like there's 11 left. It's like a randomly like a random number generator on it of all things. And so Scarcity mindset man, it's.
Myke:What was it the FOMO thing we were talking about? Yeah, I had to educate Ryan on what FOMO meant today.
Steve:Yeah, I know Favorite missing out on that Exactly, I should have about it.
Ryan:Okay, who is? I was going to ask this and I got into probably some trim. But who do you for real think goes out and loves this so much? They buy it, they got to wear it. Who's the kind of person that's going to wear fragrance like this? Hmm?
Steve:Well, I think you're not going to smell this in store, so I think it's who's going to buy it.
Steve:So who's going to fall for that marketing she is and I think, it's going to be somebody in there who's like a businessman, maybe like 30, late 30s, 30s, 40s, maybe he was quite successful middle management and totally falls for all the marketing. He looks at this and goes this is, this is a fragrance I can wear today to work. Women are going to love it, I'm going to be attractive, I'm going to be seen as successful. It's just that guy that's going to fall that he's wearing Chino shirt to work. It's that guy. He's not into fragrances, right, he sees the marketing and believes it and goes I'm going to buy it and he'll probably smell this and go yeah, this smells nice. He'll probably be quite happy with his purchase. To be honest, that guy, I agree. I was going to say a key holder.
Ryan:A key holder, my God, nobody knows what that is. It's just below a manager. You're just like giving the key to open up. They were allowing you enough to open the door and start scooping ice cream to serve people.
Myke:They give you the key instead of the promotion and the raise.
Ryan:Exactly yes.
Myke:Yeah, I kind of feel like it's one of two. It's the guy that you're talking about, steve, or it's just a young dude that, again, doesn't know much about fragrances, is on social media and it's like this is going to get you laid, little guy, okay.
Steve:When you say young, how young are you saying? High school Really? Yeah? I don't think they're full. The guys that are in the marketing adverts and the shilling it a bit older than that. Yeah, that is true.
Myke:I don't think they're full for it. God, there was a dude in like late fifties and one I saw and it was like this is he like sprays it on his wife's light right next to him, or something she's like? Oh yeah. Yeah, she starts kneeling down, kneels out of frame.
Steve:I think people is going to be non-frag heads who can't afford a Ventus, are going to see this as like an Aventus, like Cologne, that they can afford. Like they're going to think it's the same sort of get the same effect, same impact as a Ventus, but they've beaten the system. They fell for the markets and they've beaten the system. It's going to yeah, that's probably it.
Myke:It's going to be quick on it too, because we were literally talking about doing this episode. I open up my laptop and I pull up Instagram just to check the audio levels. Before we piped in with you, and it was the first ad that popped up yeah, yeah, Well, I've.
Steve:I'm fucked now because I've just searched to look up what the notes were for Gravitate.
Myke:So that's it. I'm fucked. Now You'll see it.
Steve:It's going to be on my Instagram, on my Facebook. It's going to be all over the place again until I start like keep hiding the adverts again.
Myke:So yeah, every time it's like.
Steve:It's just like the fucking weird creepy neighbor that just keeps sticking their head over the fence. That's it.
Myke:So here's a question related to who's wearing it. Steve, you got a full bottle of this bad boy. Are you going to be wearing this ever?
Steve:So I wore this. I wore this quite a bit, for a good few weeks actually, because I, as I say, I think it's a perfectly pleasant fragrance and I was in my YouTube video. I was talking about as much as I'm into fragrances because of my day job, where I'm kind of in sales, so I'm seeing clients and customers and things I don't want to smell challenging. I don't want to smell of Ood. I don't want to smell of a donkey's asshole.
Steve:I want to smell, mass, appealing, clean. So all these sort of shower gel fragrances are a really good daily driver for my sort of day job. So that's why I ended up buying this. I thought I'll give it go because I just wanted an alternative to like the Blur de Chanel and the savages and all that sort of shit. So I did wear this for quite a few weeks and eventually.
Steve:So I got quite a few wearings out of it and I did wear it a fair bit and then eventually I was just like I like it but I don't love it. So why don't I just wear a fragrance that I actually love? I've got like Blur de Chanel and I've got other ones, and there's another fragrance that we'll maybe do another episode on that I thought I'd love with. So in the end I thought, oh, I might just stick it on eBay and see what I get. So there was a like an eBay sellers deal on and I stuck it on eBay as an auction and it ended up. Somebody got into a bidding war and I ended up selling it for more than I paid for it.
Myke:So I actually made a profit on this right. Okay, patreons, hear that, because we're going to be giving this away to you on Patreon. You could end up being a very wealthy individual.
Steve:You could. You could make tens of dollars out of this right.
Myke:No doubt. Okay, you're going to skip it. Sample it, oh, by it.
Ryan:What are you going to do, steve, after buying it and selling it on eBay?
Myke:You're going to buy it again.
Steve:I mean what I would say. This is a real tough one because, like I say, I think for the right person this is a good fragrance, I think, but the probably, if you're listening to this podcast, you're not that person.
Myke:But if it was.
Steve:You know some guy that you're meeting down the office or whatever. If you just wanted a daily driver for work, you might tell them to sample this, to be honest, because it's a bit different. But if you're a frag, if you're in this community, if you're a regular listeners, this podcast is it's got a bit of a skip, isn't it really?
Myke:I feel like even at this price in the US 75 bucks even at this price you can find for 40, 50 bucks less challenging great smelling fragrances around that price that are probably better than this.
Ryan:Mont Blanc gets four out the gate for me.
Steve:Yes, I mean. My argument to this is and this is why I sort of wanted to buy this is you? There is a risk that you start smelling like other people, though this is the thing. Like I said, I've got Blur de Chanel, I've got the odor perfume and the perfume version. Both odor perfume is practically empty. There's nothing left. I've nearly finished the perfume. I've got a lot of those. I've finished a bottle of Prada Lom. So a lot of those clean office style fragrances because of my day job. I've worn, I've used, so somebody like me, you want something that's a bit different, so you don't smell like every other person. So that's where I try to move away from your savages and all that sort of shit. But it's hard because the moment you move away from it, you just smell generic. Where Blur de Chanel smells good, it's a shower gel fragrance, but it's the best shower gel fragrance really. You know it smells very good. So that's the challenge.
Myke:Yeah, I, you know, I never thought of that sort of. You get the safe, clean generics and then you start smelling overly generic. So then you look for another generic fragrance that's less generic because it's less adopted.
Steve:It's a fine line because you want to sell Massapilin but you want to smell different Massapilin. If you don't want to smell, oh he's really good, and you don't want to think, oh he smells. Like the guy that I met last week for that other client meeting.
Steve:You know it's like I've been in that situation where I've stayed over in a hotel with my work colleagues. I've gone down to breakfast, I've sat down and I was like, oh, I could smell Savage. I'm like, oh, who's wearing Savage? And two or three people have answered. Oh, it's me Like at the same time, literally at the table, like three people are wearing Savage. It's like that's, you don't want to be that guy, do you no?
Myke:I don't want to be the guy smelling Savage in general.
Steve:Exactly Like you love Prada Luna Ross of Carbon, which I do as well. It's a beautiful fragrance, but it does smell like Savage and like other people, and you probably don't want to smell like other people, do you?
Myke:So not all the time, but God damn do I love wearing that occasion Every time you wear it.
Ryan:It's amazing. For me, guys, this is a, this is an easy skip. It's. I feel like Steve, and probably you a little bit, but definitely Steve. Steve is actually breaking this down great and giving it a fair shot, and I really am trying to. I'm probably going to be a little bit biased, but I just feel like just knowing we can go to drug and porium I can get some for 40, 50 bucks that I feel like would just blow this out of the water. This is a little too quiet for me, A little too safe. It does, to me, smell a little bit like LaCos red maybe had sex with Savage. It smells a little bit like both, but it's like really watered down and even if I could get this for $40, I would not get this. Even if I got it that cheap, I'd be like it's just not worth that to me Me personally.
Steve:Well, I mean you guys, I'd listen to your cool water episode by Davidoff and that you can get. For what did you get it for less than 20 bucks and yeah, absolutely 16.
Ryan:And it's killer. It blows this out of the water to me personally.
Myke:But it is got its own personality For sure. This is way more appealing than that, I honestly believe, if it hadn't been for the really cringy ads and the fact that it's some company that mainly does like face scrubs and shit like that. If this was in a different bottle by a designer and we smelled it, we may go it's kind of generic but we wouldn't go like it's a shitty fragrance, we would just go, hmm, it belongs on the shelf you know the department store shelf, not my personal shelf but I think we would think that like it smells, like it's a shitty fragrance Smells good. Yeah, if I try really hard, I can get a little bit of the pepper there and a little bit of the apple.
Myke:But but all in all, yeah, I think it's a skip. Just because it is so generic and I'm thinking about my own personal collection going, I probably wouldn't wear this. I got two bottles of Luna Russa carbon, so if I want to smell that type of vibe, I'll wear that. I love that fragrance. It's almost the same price. We can get a hundred mil bottle for 80 bucks. So I would hands down always buy that over this at the same price. But if you can get it at a discount and you know you're looking for something, like Steve is saying, that is less worn, I don't think it's a bad option.
Steve:Hmm, agreed.
Ryan:Well, I guess the majority rules on this one, guys.
Steve:It smells like Lomal team. So if you like that fragrance, this might be worth a smell. Lomal team is better. It's better quality, it's got rose and stuff which makes it more interesting and because of the slightly different direction, but it does smell like that so, which I think is discontinued. So perhaps if you were a fan of that fragrance and you want a poor man's version of it, as such, this could be a show. But yeah, there's other options.
Myke:I thought this was going to be really, really bad, and it's actually. I'm surprised at how decent it is. Yeah, it's not bad.
Ryan:It is definitely decent. I don't want people to misconstrue everything I'm saying like it's not worth it to somebody, but just for me. It is a skip, but it's not a bad scent. It is very light, though I feel like it's really dissipating. A 12 hour claim with me would not be happening with this thing.
Myke:I don't think 12 hours, but I definitely think, yeah, six to eight hours about you could get just guessing on my skin. It's pretty there and I did two sprays, all right.
Ryan:We'll see. I feel like it's doing what somebody like Rajadav would say is like it's not pulling out like real strong emotions either, or it's just riding the line super safe.
Myke:Yeah, I don't know that saying if it's not a fuck yes, then it's a fuck no, yeah.
Steve:Let's be honest. Like I said earlier, though, this isn't for the fragrance community.
Ryan:No right.
Steve:This fragrance is absolutely never created with the fragrance community in mind. Trying to come up with something different, interesting, break the mold, shake up the industry. This was 100% designed for the 30-somethings scrolling on Instagram that fall for these ads, I guess myself included.
Myke:I guess because I felt ripped but you know, it's such a bit, you know there was some irony in my purchase.
Steve:It's 100% yeah, but yeah, that's 100% who this is. And, as I say, I think the vast majority of people that do fall for the adverts will smell this and probably be quite pleased with the purchase. I think they'll think it smells nice and they'll be quite happy with it, and they might even re-up on it. To be honest, but the people listening to this podcast, the vast majority of those people, will not necessarily kind of enjoy this fragrance as much.
Myke:Why ever run out when you could just buy three bottles and get a discount?
Steve:Yeah, basically they're trying to start a pyramid scheme. Buy loads of bottles, sell them to your friends. When they sell them on you, take a cut of it. It's just a fragrance pyramid. Let's do that shit.
Ryan:Well, let me ask this when you first were sampling this, did your wife smell it from the other room and just go freaking nuts on you Like the commercial, Throw you out on the bed.
Steve:I heard her panties hit the floor Because they're not those panties and they're not these skimpy little lacy numbers. So I literally heard the thud and I was like I'm in here. The chastity belt came off and it was here I heard the padlock and the chains hit the floor and they all went.
Ryan:I'm in here, anybody listening? I promise you that will not happen.
Myke:It's okay, I don't know. I mean, depends on how generic your wife is. Okay, well, I think we've got other fragrances to smell, ladies and gentlemen, so we're going to slide out on this episode. But all in all, if I have to sum it up, I'm very shocked that it's actually decent. I am shocked it is actually decent. So maybe it's a sample for somebody to skip for me.
Ryan:And Steve, you're saying this is a sample, but it could be a buy for somebody out there that has no life. The answer is no.
Steve:No, they want a life. They want a life.
Myke:You buy the fragrance that's called for the market A life in a bottle.
Ryan:Yeah, okay. Thank you guys for joining this episode and thank you, steve for always stopping in here bringing up some really cool fragrance stuff. I feel like we have more fun with him figuring out this shit than we do with ourselves sometimes. But thank you so much and until next time, everybody Spray it up, spray it up Yo.