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#301 - Tom Ford For Men Extreme: A Discontinued Disagreement

• Myke & Ryan • Season 5 • Episode 301

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Join us as we wax nostalgic over Tom Ford for Men Extreme, with its spicy masculine allure that some of us can't get enough of, while others are left scratching their heads—or rather, noses. We even revisit Camel Totem's laugh-out-loud review, which likens the scent to a cat's unexpected, uh, display of affection. But the fragrance follies don't end there! We get swept away by Argos's Triumph of Bacchus, a scent so complex and captivating it could make a white peach blush. Our friend Nikki joins the conversation, singing praises of its unisex charm and longevity, proving that some things do indeed last forever!

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Ryan:

hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 301 of the cologne podcast.

Myke:

I'm mike and I'm ryan. We're two best friends. We're going on a fragrance journey, smelling vintage fragrance sent in by patreons and giving you uneducated opinions that's right.

Ryan:

Jonathan sent us this. Yes, he did. Uh, this is part of a stipulation which by the Jonathan. I'll put this out on the air. I have not paid him yet for the cologne bottle that he sent me, that he got me for my dad's episode. And, jonathan, by the time this airs, I promise you check is in the mail and thank you. He gave me a good deal. He said the stipulation was to do these tom ford fragrances. We are, we did tom ford for men badass, fucking fragrance. Good luck finding it if you do get ready to empty your pocketbooks. And now we're going to do the tom ford for men extreme yes, not to be confused with noir extreme, correct and this is a just a sense.

Ryan:

Discontinued fragrance is what I'm assuming, right? It sure is, but that didn't stop the camel totem from letting people know I'm fragrantica why do I just in my head I just imagine a wooden totem of just different camel toes.

Myke:

It's like that old lady off of Clockwork Orange. Instead it's just different camel toes, Genius username. Yeah, the camel totem says you know that feeling when you're cuddling with your cat and then it turns around and shows its ass in your face. That's what this smells like.

Ryan:

What does that even mean?

Myke:

I don't know what a camel totem is. I've never cuddled with a cat and it's showing its ass. Yeah, and bill sharps down.

Ryan:

What the hell? Okay, well, um, what do you think this thing? You think it's gonna smell like a cat's ass. Is that what he's trying to say?

Myke:

I don't know, maybe they went extra, whored on the ginger or something and it's got like a little funkiness to it, you know, because that was part of the tom ford, for men had that ginger bite to it, but we loved that it was so fucking good, dude, I'm excited.

Ryan:

But before we get into today's episode, we got to do our one night stand review of episode. We celebrate it. Episode 300, that's right. Triumph of bacchus by argos. Hit the music, todd. Yeah, one night stand review.

Ryan:

Well, mike, after laying in bed, surprisingly enough close to us here in dallas, texas yeah, what do you have to say about argos's triumph of baucus? I love it. I do too, and I will say this, though the review you read was not right, nor was it too off. Huh, okay, the opening is a little unpleasant now to me, but, that being said, I can assure you a couple of things, ladies and gentlemen. One, it lasts for fucking ever. Literally, I've been smelling that fragrance on the tester strip since was that thursday when we recorded that episode? Friday, saturday, sunday, even this morning, so four days straight. And it is on there, it's loud and it just gets better and better. It is on there, it's loud and it just gets better and better. It is seriously a gorgeous fragrance. It made me think of all the times you wore it and how many times I'd walk in. Plus. Two, actually, it was Tuesday, sorry, oh, so it was longer than that. Yeah, fuck man Dude, it lasts forever. It smells fucking incredible. Yes, it smells incredible.

Myke:

Yes, I'm with you. Yes, it smells incredible. Yes, I'm with you. The longevity is amazing On the skin. It's in the same ballpark as the Carlisles and the Red Tobaccos and the Hafez 1984s yeah, so it's close. Not the same thing. To me it's the best of the bunch, smells great. But on that card I was getting so many different things this time, maybe because this is the first time I've really tried to just slew through and really smell. I'll just spray it on and go, but I loved it and I'm glad that I still got 50 mil to slurp down on you know, since you did the episode with us.

Ryan:

Yeah, let me give Nikki a call and see what her one nice day in review of this would be.

Myke:

Do it, Ryan. You're connected to Nikki via the cell phones.

Ryan:

Let me do this.

Nikki:

Hello.

Ryan:

Hey Nikki. This is Mike and Ryan of the Cologne Podcast. Hi.

Myke:

How are you doing today?

Nikki:

I'm wonderful. How are y'all?

Ryan:

We're doing fantastic. We came here today with a mission really quick. Sorry if this is my radio voice here for a second, but it is absolutely a radio voice, but okay. You don't always talk like that. No, I'll try to be. Okay, fuck it, I'm getting me, I'm getting me, I'm getting me. Here's me.

Myke:

hey, nikki, uh, we got to do this episode really quick, uh, oh no, go ahead, go. No, this is more like you, okay, um, hey, nikki, it's ryan not the quiver in your voice, it's's about the cry.

Nikki:

It's so accurate.

Ryan:

All right, look, assholes. Okay, we got this. We did this episode last week. You did Triumph of Bacchus with it. We all loved it A little bit. You've had times to rest on it a bit. What do you think about it right now? What would you say about it after smelling it? You kind of had your you know your day in the sun with it. What do you think about triumph of bacchus?

Nikki:

I loved it. I smelled it all day long. I loved it.

Ryan:

I would totally wear that yeah, do you feel like it is unisex, like you'd wear the hell out of it too?

Nikki:

I do think I would wear it. I think it's more of a female scent than a male scent, I don't know, it's almost yeah, because it's so light and fresh and kind of fruity. I feel like it's more on the female side, but I love it. I would wear the hell out of it.

Myke:

Well, if you want to borrow it, you want to bring some muffins up here? We can do a little swap.

Nikki:

Oh, absolutely.

Ryan:

You can have all the muffins. Yeah, I want strawberry and blueberry Together or a batch of each.

Nikki:

Oh wow, no, no, not together. I want strawberry and blueberry Together, or a batch of each.

Ryan:

Oh wow, no, no, not together, I want them separate. I want separate blueberry and strawberry muffins. They're delicious yeah.

Nikki:

Guess I can't say no, huh.

Ryan:

Mm-mm. You can't Not if you want to borrow this bottle.

Nikki:

Fabulous, fabulous, love that for me.

Ryan:

Well, nikki, let me tell you what else you're going to love. You're going to love the fact that we're now ending this call, because we got everything out of you that we needed.

Nikki:

Fabulous, have a great day yeah.

Ryan:

You too. So there you go, guys. She says she'd wear the hell out of it.

Myke:

She would, and she thinks it's more feminine, which blows my mind, because I've never heard anybody pitch it that way ever.

Ryan:

Yeah, I feel like it definitely is unisex. I can see a man wearing it, yeah, but I can see a woman wearing it does smell good, it does have that white peach note going on and it is so pretty. Yeah, I guess sweets kind of spicy, honestly, as it does dry down more, I probably would agree even more with her that it does lean more feminine. It's very beautiful though. It's extremely beautiful. You can't sway me. You're like I'm a fucking man, yeah.

Myke:

I'm a man, baby, let me wear that white peach. But on the real, we'll let her borrow it, and then it may be a topic we bring up in the chat section of the patreon or something for sure, get a little further down the line. Maybe we'll let nikki spend more than just a night or two in the bed with old argos. Yeah, with christian petrovich you know what?

Ryan:

really funny thing, I gotta read you really quick. Speaking of triumph, of bacchus and the patreon. Okay, I got a message from one of our fellow patrons and, by the way, if you're not a patron, shame on you. Go be a patron. There's a lot of good people in there and it's a lot of fun. Luke S wrote us literally the other day.

Ryan:

Yeah, it was like on the weekend right, yeah, and we had recorded this episode and we know it's going to go live. You know, monday, this past monday. Hey, have you guys done an episode on argos triumph of bacchus? I heard you mention on the most recent episode, but don't recall an episode on it. I just got a bottle of it the other week and I'm loving it. Oh, twitch, I replied spoiler't, second spoiler. It's literally going live on Monday for episode 300. And then I told him to buy a lottery ticket. Yeah, but fuck, dude, there you go. Yeah, you got it. And yeah, luke, you're right, this fragrance smells amazing. I would seriously say this is a very hard sample for a lot of you out there, but I bet you if you sampled it, you'd love it.

Myke:

You'd love it, you'd buy it. Yeah, absolutely. And if you're in a relationship you may, you know, share, yeah, you can do that too. That's one of those you can justify. I got it for us, for me and you. Yeah, yeah, and nicky now well, there you go.

Ryan:

There's our one night stand review of triumph of bacchus by argos. Now let's put our sniffers on tom ford for men.

Myke:

Extreme by tom ford I'll let you do this one. This is an edt, by the way, really. What was?

Ryan:

the other tom ford for men and edt. Yes, interesting, because that shit went harder than most tom fords today.

Myke:

Yeah, and this is weird too, because you'd figure if they'd go with an extreme, they'd probably be making like an edp out of it. Yeah, I'm with you maybe here we go. Let's see, this was early on. This is supposed to be cat ass, by the way.

Ryan:

Yeah, thanks for that, vivid Pitcher.

Myke:

Ooh, I think I have a correlation here. Ryan. Really, what do you have? What do you have in mind? This smells like the genesis of Tom Ford Noir.

Ryan:

Hmm, okay, I'm going to say something crazy here. Go ahead. I like what it's doing, but I don't like the profile.

Myke:

Okay, that seems confusing right, yeah, do you want to clear that up for us? Me, the listeners.

Ryan:

It's got a very masculine, yet kind of almost sweet, not rum, almost like sweet alcohol burn. I can't explain it, but there's just something about the mixture that feels a little off to me. But it's masculine. It's not as loud I don't feel like as the original Tom Ford for men. Do you think it's as loud? Because I'm not feeling?

Myke:

it. I don't know. I don't have my finger on the pulse of that one enough to really know, but this reminds me of Tom Ford Noir, which is just a dark, spicy vanilla, but it's not a sweet vanilla.

Ryan:

I don't fucking like this.

Myke:

Really.

Ryan:

Yeah, I'm not a fan, Dude Jonathan. I'm so sorry because I know if, by the time we get to the section of price and popularity, this is probably up there for being some vintage, discontinued shit. But I am not vibing this. Are you vibing this?

Myke:

I am vibing this really, yeah, I really like it, huh, because it reminds me of tom ford noir. Early on, when we first got into fragrances, you hit me to Ombre Leather so I got really horny about some Tom Ford. Yeah, you're really horny, yeah, yeah. And the only thing that could quench that horniness was just to have lots and lots and lots of Tom Ford on my body. Yes, go on. So another one of the dossiers was the Tom Ford Noir, okay, and I think they call it whatever weird name they come up with. But I was like like, oh, I like this, I like the smell of this. What is this? Based off of it's tom for noir. So then I wouldn't smell just tom for noir, not the noir extreme guys, but you think of that sweet gourmand type. It's not that, it's a spicy, very masculine almost, and I just really liked it.

Ryan:

By the way, off subject on subject, you do this thing. You're kind of like a woman sometimes with me. Okay, if I say I like something, I feel like I never smell it again on you. Oh, and was it the Tom Ford Noir de Noir that I really liked that time? Yes, I can literally remember the outfit you were wearing because we went to ace hardware store.

Myke:

I remember it too it's like a button old navy, navy blue button up white polka dots that's right.

Ryan:

Yep, I've like been chasing that dragon for you to wear that again. You never wore it again. It was smelled amazing.

Myke:

Well, we did the episode on it and then I gave I think you didn't like it. Really I have I have to go back and listen, but I gave the because it was a travel atomizer I had. I gave that to Licky.

Ryan:

Licky. Let us know what you thought about that when you come on the show. Eventually, I'm not liking this profile you like?

Myke:

this. What about it? You don't like the profile of it.

Ryan:

It's like kind of sweet sour thing going on, like not sour like a sour candy, like sour like it's. Maybe it not Like it went bad. Yeah, but I know that the fragrance hasn't went bad, it's just.

Myke:

Yeah, this is actually a carded sample from Tom Ford. God damn, that's crazy From back in the Dizzy.

Ryan:

I'm not vibing it, dude.

Myke:

I'm actually kind of disappointed this is shocking because I thought that this fragrance would have been leaning more towards the noir extreme. Yeah, I thought it was going to go sweeter. I definitely thought it was going to be an EDP. Shocked that this is an EDT. They just did things differently back then. What was this 11 years ago? Yeah, yeah, they weren't all for just creating an EDP and calling it extreme.

Ryan:

I got to double check now I feel like I should have knew that 100% Sorry, I've got to know that.

Myke:

But if I had to guess and I'm probably wrong, but if I had to guess, it did what I thought it was going to do, which is it really pepped up, that ginger vibe you think so? I would have never guessed that in the original Tom Ford Noir that I smelled 2007.

Ryan:

This was 2007. Wow, quite a bit of ways Almost two years short of being 20 years, pretty much.

Myke:

Yeah, much so. Smelling this now and tracing the line back from tom ford for men to tom ford for men extreme it does feel like they turn the dials up a little bit you're gonna think I'm crazy.

Ryan:

Yeah, but the tester strip's coming around right now okay, let me smell her it's spicy. Don't know if I like it, but it's coming around. Let me give you the price and popularity on this really quick. Okay, hip me 50 ml of this on eBay. Looking about 400 buckaroonies and up. Ooh, and that's with it. Like 90% full, not even fully full. So about 40 ml, looking about 400 and up. That's a hefty price.

Myke:

You feel like that's 400 worthy To the right person, maybe, yeah, okay.

Ryan:

Popularity it's got a staggering 1,282 reviews, 4.35 out of 5.

Myke:

Man that's pushing close to Triumphal Bacchus. Yeah, and I'm a little shocked.

Ryan:

Those numbers are high. I'm a little shocked at that popularity. I don't feel like it's justified. Do you feel like it's justified? Be real, I don't think it's justified.

Myke:

You and I are on opposing sides on this one, because there's something in here that I'm like. I feel like it's not replicated today. Yeah, even when I smell this compared to, in my mind, tom Ford Noir, which they smell very similar to me there's something about this one that I kind of like a little more. Something going on the burn in it just feels like rich and decadent.

Ryan:

Hmm, god, on the burn in it just feels like rich and decadent. Hmm god, I guess I can somewhat agree with that, but I just that this profile is not doing. Speaking of profile, let me give you the doesn't have a perfume pyramid. There's no top, middle and base notes. This is just one of those ones. It's just a. Here's all the notes? Right, not very many, and maybe this is where it's going wrong for me. I'm going to save the first note they list for last. But fig, patchouli, cedar and lemon, do you get any of that? You're over there talking ginger, but there's no ginger apparently.

Myke:

To this, yeah well, as we've claimed, I got you, you fucking. No, sorry, we're uneducated morons, so it's not like I'm claiming to be able to sniff out this shit here's where I think I'm being thrown off because I don't think I'm a fan of this Truffle.

Ryan:

Oh, Isn't that kind of like Boy?

Myke:

that's a very black orchid-y type thing, you think so, which was the first fragrance. So maybe he wanted a little truffle shavings on his extreme.

Ryan:

Yeah, this is like from Fragrantica you can click on the notes you get in there and it tells you a little bit more about it. And it's part of the Musk, amber and Animalic Smells group. Okay, odor profile Very special gourmand, warm and inviting fragrance.

Myke:

So there was no ginger and no vanilla in this. Mm-mm. See, I'm a goddamn idiot I've been trying to tell you you, finally, it pierced through straight to my heart.

Ryan:

Yowch, I now believe you know, with a fragrance like this, I really do want to know the pros and cons that are listed. Some of the pros have been. Conjures up feelings of sophistication and elegance, which you just said. There's like this, decadent, whatever bullshit going on. Suitable for formal occasions. Good choice for men who want to exude power and success. That's a pro. They've listed Every man who's ever walked the face of the earth.

Myke:

Cons want to exude power and success. That's a pro they've listed. So every man who's ever walked the face of the earth.

Ryan:

Cons. Expensive price point. Agree May not be suitable for those who dislike busy or complex fragrances. I disagree with that. One Strong and intense initial scent. I don't think it's that strong. The whole thing's kind of I'm kind of disappointed.

Myke:

I'm not I surprisingly really like it and maybe because I'm going all the way back to those early days when I was smelling that dossier clone of tom ford noir and it got me hooked on tom ford noir.

Ryan:

God, I just can't bring myself to like this fragrance. That's okay. I'm sorry guys, I'm sorry jonathan, I'm sorry, you are sorry, mr, please forgive me.

Myke:

I'm sorry, I this up get it out of your system. You got a couple more in you. I love you anyway.

Ryan:

So okay, all right. Who the hell's wearing this? We've been shrugging along here, but who's wearing this?

Myke:

I would think if I was 15 years older, so if you're like 50. Yeah, in my 50s and I've fallen in love with this fragrance, or the Tom Ford Noir, whatever, or this one.

Myke:

I mean, we saw it. You and I were at Sam's the other day, remember. I was like I fell in love with this shaved beef to make philly cheese steaks with. And we've gone to sam's a hundred times, yeah, and I'm always like it's not there, it's not there. And we went to a different sam's in another city and it was there and I didn't even look at the price, I just grabbed it. I would think if somebody was like me out there you get so fucking tired of falling in love with something, then they discontinue it I would be that guy. I'd go. No, I got to have a bottle of this, I love this. Do you think it's that guy? It's that guy, it's like me. But maybe I've matured a little in the next 15 years. I don't know, maybe not, but it's that at least that frame of mind of just going I got, look, I got to have it. I don't care if it's discontinued or not, I don't care what the price tag is, I love it, I want it.

Ryan:

I don't have a person in mind, dude. This has drawn a complete blank in me. There's something about me, ryan.

Myke:

When you fall in love with something, it doesn't matter the cost or the obstacles in your way. Yeah, you're going to make sure If it's worth it, you're going to get that thing.

Ryan:

Well, let me tell you what we got on to this weekend. Saturday, me and your boy over here got to film some badass guns being shot, some pow-pows. Yeah, I bring this up because we had a really funny moment. You know, me and Mike are kind of like city slickers. Don't get confused with the voice here a little bit. You're damn right, we're pretty much. What do they call that green or wet behind? What do they call that green or wet behind? What they call that? Yeah, yeah, we're novices at best, but we we had to film. Uh, we're filming for a brand and uh, it's custom, literally custom built from absolute scratch guns. Yeah, and they are badass. We're not even gun guys. We're like, fuck, this is insane, for we're like seriously standing six feet back while we're filming. Shells are hitting us in the head Every time the gun's going. It's like punching our fucking chest.

Ryan:

And I'm like, damn, this is badass. But we had a moment at this event. All these burly ass men decked out to the fucking nines and fucking like they're fishing, drop out of a fucking jet and like kill somebody. We had a moment where one of our listeners wrote us can I read that really quick? Yeah, I'm going to break it up a little bit here. Yeah, it actually involves a couple of things. It kind of touches on a thing that they've, that we've kind of talked about on this show a couple of times, or somebody but a good friend of the patreon, john c, wrote us on saturday.

Ryan:

He said yes, I loved this interaction I gotta read it I talked to mo at senate explorer today and told him how you two never shut up about what an awesome guy he is, laughing emoji, and you know I said, yeah, you know, I'm glad you got to share experience with him and meet him in person and realize that you know he is laughing emoji. And you know I said yeah, you know, I'm glad you got to share experience with him and meet him in person and realize that you know he is really a nice guy. And he responded back. He said oh yeah, he goes. I met him at last year's event too and he was great. He goes. You. You two should definitely come to next year's sentence for, preferably by plane, but you know he knows my fear of planes. Yes, and so I. So I go. Mike Wood in a second. I just know if I get on it it'll be the day that the pilot's girlfriend dumped him or something stupid. Attention to all passengers.

Ryan:

We are now flying 40,000 feet above the Atlantic and I just received a text message from my girlfriend, who wants to see other people, and I'm going gonna kill us all that's what I envision when I finally get on the plane, right, well, just as where john writes back and me and mike are reading this, tears going down our eyes while guys are holstering excaliburs around us. Yeah, while guys are holstering Excaliburs around us, yeah, john says. Or maybe the pilot has been struggling to find love over the last eight years but went on a date the night before your flight that convinced him things are going to be okay. When he woke up the next morning, the blue hues in the sky were richer and the sun was warmer than he had recalled in recent memory. For the first time in a long time, he felt alive and he was glad to be. We were done.

Myke:

But then he got an immediate text message that she said it's over, I'm not looking forward to a second date. God bless, are you going to skip it, sample it or buy?

Ryan:

it. What are you gonna do, ryan? Well, mike I hate to be and jonathan I hate to be the bearer bad news, but this is a certifiable absolute. Not even gonna lose an ounce of sleep. Skip for me.

Myke:

That blows my freaking marbles.

Ryan:

I just am not vibing. There is nothing about this that I like and I'm shocked at how high the popularity is Shocked.

Myke:

Man, I think this is a sample. I think this is a strong sample. Now, the price tag it kind of disqualifies it. You're past this point. But I think it's fun. You can get your hands on a little bit and try it. It's pretty wild. You can kind of tell where it influenced other fragrances down the road. Yeah, that's kind of a cool thing. It's almost like a little time capsule. And, jonathan, thank you for sending this in, because otherwise we wouldn't have gotten to experience this type of thing. And for me, this is the exciting part. This is like getting the director's commentary to a movie that's true Like, oh, this inspired this scene. This is where we got this idea. I absolutely love stuff like this. I have to agree with you on that inspired this scene. This is where we got this idea.

Ryan:

I absolutely love stuff like this. I have to agree with you on that and I mean I am pleased that we got to experience it. Good or bad, yeah, I am just so. It's a hard sample. I mean it's a sample to you.

Myke:

Yes, for the experience, because we're lucky that we have listeners like you guys, because you, you're letting us go. Here's what you missed. Yeah, you know, because we got in on this thing 2021, really, yeah, and you're like here's what you missed by not being in on fragrances in 2007 or whenever. Absolutely, and I just got to be grateful for that. I'm stoked on it. No, I am too, I'm stoked. Stoked on it.

Ryan:

No, I am too it, I'm stoked well, you know, just sometimes you just don't click with something.

Myke:

You know I'm saying just don't click with the fragrance that's okay it doesn't smell bad quality I'll say that no, to me it smells like some of the higher quality, like now, if you go into a store I feel like even the tom ford's you'd spray and you can kind of smell the quality kind of dropping I'd love to know, and we should have researched this.

Ryan:

We suck. I would have loved to known, uh, what uh tom ford's like. What's this remind me of? This was when I was in the swiss ops, and you know oh, yeah, yeah, because early on he was about that, now this I don't, I don't know, I just get like you walk into like one of those weird like halfway Wiccan stores and there's like weird objects around and just a weird smell in the air Crystals and sage and stuff. I don't know, I'm not vibing it, that's me Okay.

Myke:

Well, there you go. Either way, very grateful for Jonathan to have sent this in, absolutely Thank you, and where else you want to go with that? For Jonathan to have sent this in, absolutely Thank you. And, uh, anywhere else you want to go with that, guys?

Ryan:

we love you so much. We just got. This is kind of like our getting back into it phase from uh, yeah, I know we did, you know trying for Bacchus, but that was still kind of fresh off of like eating like a couple of fucking dumb asses over Thanksgiving. Yeah, still kind of fresh off of like eating like a couple of fucking dumbasses over thanksgiving.

Myke:

This is like week two. We've been on the speed bag for a little bit. We're trying to get our you know rhythm down, okay, yeah, so yeah, here's what's coming up too. We're about to talk with mo about this new kajal release of lamar noir. Absolutely, if you're a patreon, you got like a 50 50 chance that you're going to be getting a travel atomizer of that bad boy. Absolutely Good things.

Ryan:

Good things coming. We also have an episode planned with Licky.

Myke:

That'll be a good one, that's right. Yeah, she actually called us today and was going off on some Soma fragrances that she bought the hype. She listened to us just, you know, juicing those sweet samples and she pulled the trigger and actually bought a couple bottles she bought.

Ryan:

Halcyon Oud, wasn't it? No, just Halcyon, oh, just Halcyon. Okay, yeah, and I haven't smelled that one you have? I don't think I have, I'm not sure. Anyway, she bought that, yes, and we've got this brand we've talked about before I'm going to post under the scope here. We've been meaning to get over and get this done for, uh, mont, is it monticou fragrant? I can't even remember how it's pronounced. Montane month, I don't know. Forgive us, we get a lot of shit sent to us and we feel really guilty that we don't get it out. And we're gonna get it out. So there's all that. There's a million things planned. We love you guys and until until next time, spray it up y'all.