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#304 - Tonka Cola By Mancera: Season 6 Episode 01

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What if a fragrance could bridge the gap between youthful exuberance and elegant sophistication? Join us as we kick off Season 6 of the Cologne Podcast by recounting an unforgettable evening in Milan. With noses slightly more seasoned, Myke and Ryan jump into the scent-sational world of fragrances, sharing their impressions of Mancera's Tonka Cola, which left a striking impression during an Italian Uber ride. From the bold blend of cola and cinnamon to the subtle gasoline undertones of Diptyque's Eau Rhila, our noses guide us on a journey through scent and memory.

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Myke

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Ryan

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Intro

Ryan

Hello everybody and welcome to season six , episode one of the Cologne Podcast .

Myke

I'm Mike . I'm Mike , I'm Ryan . We're two best friends . We're still going on this same fragrance adventure , smelling fragrances , giving you uneducated opinions just slightly more educated .

Ryan

Five seasons worth of education , yeah , and today we're smelling for the first time me , not yours , because you smelled it before . Yeah , Tonka Cola by man sarah . Oh yeah , baby mike has some ties to this .

Myke

I have a little story , a little story to tell , a little web to weave , a little yarn to spin . It was almost a year ago and it was a cool spring night in Milan , italy . Yeah , and it was me , tony , steve and Chris , you know , just hitting the town like we do in the evenings , chasing around trying to crash cocktail parties from brands and stuff like that , mm-hmm , and Steve wore this and you loved it . I did love it , and I was smashed up against him in the back of an italian uber and I was just like good god , just kept doing that . Oh god , yeah , what's that ?

Ryan

yeah , tight , tight , tight why do I feel like you guys are just riding around ? What were they called ? Those little fucking Mini Coopers or something ? Wasn't it like in the Italian job , that dumbass , when we were all driving tiny cars in Italy or something ? Yeah , was that the .

Myke

Uber situation over there . No , but it was your normal size , like a car you would drive . Ryan , okay , compact car .

Ryan

I'm talking all this shit .

Myke

I'm driving the mini cooper . Sure , yeah , it wasn't luxurious and spacious like an f-150 , but uh , yeah , I mean three grown men all smashed into the back of this thing and smelling good damn , yeah , you smell great . So you know , I immediately wanted you to smell it because it reminds me of some of the fragrances you really like .

Ryan

Yeah , it's supposed to be similar to , like Roger Dove's Enigma , right ? Yeah , do you feel like it is ? Is it in that same wheelhouse or is it a little different ? We're going to find out .

Myke

Okay , I'm not going to say , but I've got my fingers crossed that you'll like it , because I remember liking it on somebody . I never wore it on somebody , I never wore it and thankfully , you know , a year later , here we are smelling it . Speaking of smelling it , ryan , I have a Fragrantican review .

Ryan

We're still using Fragrantican season six .

Myke

Still Okay , we got to lean on it for this and then we got to memorize the notes so later we can be like , oh , I'm really smelling the Tonka in the Cola in the cola . But for a grant to get a review from Orz who says , man , this ain't it the smell , ain't it ? Cola and cinnamon to the max , they last . So . So much Projects , so loud , I cannot stand this .

Ryan

What is he bitching about ?

Myke

that all sounds great cinnamon and cola look , if it's that and it lasts forever and it's super loud , man , I'm hyped up for this , me too but first , ryan , we've got to get into our one night stand review of Don't Tell Me it's been a full season . Don't say anything , don't say a word . It's right on the tip of my tongue , it's Orilla by Tip Teak , hit the music Snazzy

One Night Stand Review: Eau Rhila

Myke

yeah , one night snazzy , yeah , yeah , one night snazzy view .

Ryan

Well , mike , after spending an off season , yeah , with diptych's orilla , uh-huh , what do you have to say ?

Myke

about it . You know it was pretty good , it didn't do anything mind-boggling , or you don't remember calling you later and going oh my God , are you smelling this on your skin , bro ? I feel like it did have decent longevity .

Ryan

It did , but it was really kind of a skin scent though .

Myke

And it was very similar to right out of the Atomizer . It stays kind of in that vein . So if you love how it smells right off the bat , you're going to love it the whole way through .

Ryan

Yeah , I mean it was like a lighter version of ombre leather is what we kind of said .

Myke

Yeah , but different too . Not as sweet , yeah , not as sweet , not as kind of fruity yeah .

Ryan

It's definitely like a leather jacket , but very light , really toned down .

Myke

Yeah , with a little bit on the skin toned down , yeah , with a little bit on the skin . We were smelling that , with like a little bit of that gasoline sort of vibe , you know . But on this tester strip which who cares ? Right , we're not a walking tester strip , yeah , but on the tester strip there was a lot more going on and I really did like it it was good .

Ryan

It just wasn't like you said , wasn't mind-boggling . Yeah , it wasn't great , I think I mean it's a sample for me . I mean it's a sample for me . I mean it's a sample to skip , because I mean I've probably more of a skip now that I've sampled it . But I just I think there is somebody out there that may like it . If you want something , if you like ombre leather , but it's a little bit too much , you know , on how you know it's a little too heavy or something like that .

Myke

Yeah , this , might be up your alley . Or , if you like kind of cigarette smell , because I feel like ombre leather does have a little bit of that at times . Okay , and you don't want to drop the sweet coin for the ombre leather parfum , yeah , maybe you can get a real added discount , I don't know .

Ryan

Yeah so there you go .

Myke

There's a season five , we're done yeah , we're dude , throw that shit away . We're on to new seasons and new adventures .

Ryan

Before we smell this , two things , uh-huh . One this was sent to us from Cynthia . She is a Patreon . She has been a avid listener since fuck , probably season one Long fucking time .

Myke

Yes , I remember the first sort of interaction we had with her and she was basically just talking about how you laughed way too much in every episode . She fucking hated it was basically just talking about how you laughed way too much in every she fucking hated it . She was like done , she's done with this podcast because of all your laughter .

Ryan

just like that , just like what you're doing right now she fucking hates this , but she stuck around and somehow I guess she got stockholm syndrome . I don't know . That's right , yeah , but she likes this podcast , she loves it , actually because she's a patreon , and if you're not a Patreon , you should be , because let me tell you what's happening and why I'm mentioning the Patreons . Okay , the next week's episode , monday , will be over Lamar Noir by Kajal , and the reason why I bring that up not only just to tell you that it's going to come up , but we are also going to be sending out this week , as you're listening to this , over 45 decants of Le Mar Noir given to us by Kajal . We're giving it to our patrons in the Patreon .

Myke

Yes , Travel atomizers Badass travel atomizers so badass . Refillable , by the way . Yes , and you'll hear on the episode , because we talked to Mo about it . He's like you can put whatever you want to in it after you're done with that . But I think you may want to put some more Lamar Noir Possibly , so You'll hear more about that later . But , speaking of Kajal , sending me back to Milan Again , yes , this year , three years in a row now .

Ryan

Yes ,

Scent of the Day: Tonka Cola

Ryan

let's hope this fragrance sends me back to Milan and those sweet memories with my buddy Steve . You go first , since it's got this tie of memories to you , ooh , yeah .

Myke

In the air . Very sweet cinnamon . I haven't put anything up to my nose yet .

Ryan

Whoa , yeah , this is , if you're familiar with Enigma , slash Creation . E is what it used to be called in America before they did some whatever bullshit and fixed that , I will say , and that's by Roger Parfums . It is very much in that wheelhouse , but there is something very uniquely different and I think it's that really rich cinnamon .

Myke

Yeah , very sweet , though the initial difference that I smell between the two is that this doesn't have there's a certain maturity to a Roger Dove fragrance . Yes , exactly , it has a little bit of an age gap on it , I agree , and this is bridging that gap . It's that same sort of vibe , but it's not like as mature as a rajah dove would be it is insane on my fucking skin . Yes , this is where it matters , folks . Oh my god , the skin .

Ryan

What the hell ? It smells totally different than the tester strip . Yeah , what the hell is going on . Okay , I'm going to jump into this actually kind of quickly we kind of take our time sometimes getting to this , but I got to read the notes , okay . So , and I'm getting , I'm already seeing one , I'm already getting it on the skin , that's what it is . Top one . I'm already getting it on the skin , that's what it is .

Myke

Top notes cinnamon , check , cherry , not sure , maybe sicilian lemon check for me on the skin really okay , nutmeg check and you know about some nutmeg because you like to add that into a specific dessert you make . That's right put a little extra .

Ryan

No wait , clove , it's clove and nutmeg , because you use nutmeg for that . Oh okay , I always put a little extra in my spices and middle notes coca-cola , indonesian patchouli , orange blossom , base notes , tonka , bean , vanilla , benzoin , labdomum . I don't , it's funny , I kind of get the coke vibe . I mean , I know it's a middle note , but I kind of get the coke vibe on that first initial burst , that ever vestence of it and shit like that . Totally get that the evanescence of it , yeah , the old evanescence of it and shit like that . Totally get that the evanescence of it . Yeah , the old evanescence of it . Oh my God , this actually smells really good . I guess the reason why I'm so hyped and I'm excited about it smelling so good is that if you have Enigma , which I do , you can still get this , as far as I'm concerned , right now yes , they're not like .

Myke

This is not a clone of that . This isn't clone or twinsies here .

Ryan

This is right , it's in the vein , but this is done totally different and I love it . I think it's doing exactly what you're talking about . It's fixing that age gap that a Roger Doe fragrance can have , and that's not to be insulting to the fragrance .

Myke

I love that . I think Steve called it Enigma's younger , cooler brother .

Ryan

I can agree with that . I really can .

Myke

I am surprisingly getting more citrus here than I remember whenever I was sniffing Steve .

Ryan

Well , how was the sniff test over there this ?

Myke

is great . I mean , I really was there . Sometimes you get excited when somebody wears something around you Absolutely . Oh , I really enjoy this . I'm glad you're wearing this . I want to smell this . Yeah , very few times is it another man , at least in my case , you know . Sometimes you got your lady that wears something and then you're like , oh god , yeah , you know like you smell so good . What is that ? Monger lawn , or it's like what is that ? And he's like tonka cola , like , oh , you smell so good . That was the case with steve in milan . I was glad he wore it and then I was taking every chance possible to get a little whiff man .

Ryan

He smelled like a fucking baller . That smells really good . This could not have been a better opening for a season starter .

Myke

And here's what you would think with this fragrance it's sweet , it feels kind of playful , the sweet cola type thing . Yeah , it doesn't feel like dressed up right , yeah , but he had on like the full thing , the old full Monty , yeah , the suit , I think he even maybe had like an overcoat sort of a thing , you know , like the jacket , the dressy jackets that go on over a suit . He was holding a box in front of him . Yeah , cut a hole in the box .

Ryan

Put your chuck in that box he made me open the box . It's Steve's dick in a box Wow you know it's Christmas , yeah .

Myke

Steve's dick in a box . His dick in a box , babe . You know it's christmas , yeah we'll probably cut that out .

Ryan

Cut that out , dude . I am pleasantly surprised . You know , it's been a while since we smelled just a mancera fragrance Time out .

Myke

Was there any Tonka bean in the list of the notes ? Yeah , at the base . Oh , okay , because I was getting . I felt like every time we smelled a fragrance that had Tonka in it , I was like it's got a cherry vibe ? It definitely has , but it has cherry in the note as well , Exactly , but that's what I was trying to say is like are we picking up ? Do we think we're smelling cherry and we're smelling Tonka ?

Ryan

I do have to say one thing , though , really quick . I know we just did the whole age gap thing , but I'm you know we're . This is the show guys . We smell nonstop while we're talking and yapping and singing . Dick in the Box , yeah . But there is also , like I've been to somebody's grandmother's house and it was this cinnamon smell kind of thing going in there .

Myke

Oh , I can see that . But yeah , that kind of goes along with what you think about grandmas , which is one . They're real sweet . Yeah , you know , every time you walk in the house they're like baking some sort of pie or dessert . Oh yeah , and this kind of has that . I wonder if Steve still has a bottle or if he sold it off .

Ryan

I don't know , but I'm going to tell you this one smells good .

Myke

It do be smelling good . Does it smell like you thought it was going to smell ? Like no , what ?

Ryan

did you think ? I thought it was going to be very similar to Enigma , but also maybe like more Coke or something . And honestly , the Coke thing is on the opening but very quickly it's this cinnamon kind of thing going on . Yeah , but it smells damn good .

Myke

It's very spicy . Yeah , you know a lot of times you'll get like sweet spicy and now this is sweet , yeah , but there is like some power behind the spice to where it almost it does smell like you're smelling spices in a way , like it has like a feeling to it , not just like a scent .

Ryan

Yeah , I don't know if it's as loud and as obnoxious as the the review you read from fragrantica I mean it might be , if we actually like lace up on this in a second .

Myke

It might be pretty loud because mancera has been known to put a little punch in that bottle yeah , which the perfumer ?

Ryan

as always , it's , uh , pierre montal , who also runs montal , that fragrance house . Right , sister company . It's good man , and let me get into the price and popularity . It's Pierre Montal who also runs Montal , that fragrance house Right Sister company . It's good man . And let me get into the price and popularity because it's pretty interesting here .

Price and Popularity

Ryan

Price if you hit on Mancera's website , four ounces of this about $190 .

Myke

Not bad , not bad , not bad .

Ryan

That's like 150 mil , 125 mil maybe Now if you're here in the States , and especially if you're as lucky as us and you live in the same state as this company . Right , yes , quick shipping , yeah . And they're not sponsored . We've said this many seasons ago . We've actually wrote them an email to be like you want to want to jump on this sponsor wagon and they never responded . But we still have to give them praise , and that's . Their prices are good , but you can get this for 74 fucking dollars from our fragrances for the four ounces .

Myke

The big daddy , the old big daddy , wow , 74 dollars . Pretty shockingly good deal it is fucking crazy good Popularity .

Ryan

The votes are in 4.08 out of 5 . I consider that pretty good 3,500 votes .

Myke

Pretty popular . That'd be like an 8-1 . 3,500 ? Yeah , that's big . That is big , it is super . If David Portnoy was grading it , it would be an 8-1 .

Ryan

Let me tell you why that number is actually significant . Not the 8-1 part , but the amount of votes . This was released in 2022 . A lot of times when I'm telling you guys , hey , this thing has 3,000 votes , it came out in 2011 . Yeah , it's been like over a decade . Yeah , so it had time to build some recognition , this man that's a lot of votes in a short amount of time .

Myke

For sure it got on the old hype train .

Ryan

This is badass , guys . It's different , it's super badass . I'd almost say you can't compare it to Enigma .

Myke

Would you say this is hypothetical here . Would you still give it a good rating if it wasn't for you ? I'm not saying this isn't for you , let's forget this fragrance right now while we're talking about it . But I'm curious , because when somebody votes down a fragrance , would you give it a low rating just because it wasn't for you ? Or could you go I like a fragrance , I think it's really well done , but it's not for me , and then would you still feel good about giving it a high rating .

Ryan

Or , if it's not your vibe , you give it the low rating , and then would you still feel good about giving it a high rating , or if it's not your vibe , you give it the low rating . I guess , if I'm being totally honest , if it wasn't my vibe , that would factor in , but I wouldn't strip it down and say it was garbage . Yeah , I mean , I may not be giving it the 8.1 that these people are giving it , but since I love this , yeah , and it is my vibe and something I would absolutely wear and I think you could wear too I'd probably give this an eight , five or nine . Wow , it's pretty damn good , dude . In fact , on the skin , you know we're getting that lemon . It's like you smell this , really like . It's not like the lemon you get the grocery store . No , it's the zest . You're kind of like a little bitter lemon with , like this cinnamon on top , which kind of makes sense .

Ryan

This is such a terrible thing I'm about to say but and I know you're going to know what I'm talking about , I'm listening this is like the poorest thing I've probably make every once in a while , food wise . Okay , you just get some pork chops . You cut you an onion . Okay , I know what . You put a lemon on there . I know the same recipe .

Myke

Brown sugar and ketchup , everybody's had that at some point .

Ryan

Right , it's kind of like that , not without that meat smell , obviously , but like you know what I mean Like that brown sugar and that lemon mix well . You wouldn't think the cinnamon and this lemon would mix well is what I'm trying to say , and it does .

Myke

You went a long way to add those two things together . You added ketchup and onion and pork , just to say that this smells like brown sugar and lemon snazzy , scratch it .

Ryan

I'm over here , damn , oh shit . The lemon smells good with the cinnamon okay .

Myke

Yeah , smells good . I can really smell the citrus on the card , for sure it smells incredible , man , it smells good .

Ryan

Let me read pros and cons really quick too . Opens with a blast of cola for a unique and enjoyable opening phase . Unisex fragrance with a warm and cozy feeling . Strong , unique and pleasant scent . I kind of agree with all those cons . Yeah , or pros , sorry . I agree with all those cons . Yeah , or pros , sorry . I agree with all those pros . Um , cons may not be suitable for blind buy or those sensitive to certain notes . Maybe may not be suitable for all occasions or seasons , I don't know . I you know us guys . We wore spice bomb in the summertime , right , yeah , 113 degree weather , don't care . Uh , not everyone may enjoy the strong patchouli or herbal . I don't get herbal or patchouli , do you ? No man ? This I have to

Who's Wearing This

Ryan

ask , though , who's wearing it .

Myke

This is a tricky one because for me again , I wouldn't initially go . You know he's 40 years old , he's in the city of fashion , dressed to the nines , wearing that . I wouldn't typically do that . Yeah , in fact , just smelling it on him , it didn't feel out of place . And thinking back to it now I'm like maybe this changes my mind , for what fragrance can be worn in those times ? Because it worked , that was a thing . It didn't feel off . Yeah , even though it's , that was the thing it didn't feel off . Yeah , even though it was sweet , it was spicy , it was playful , it didn't feel off . And we were also going to the brands , cocktail parties and stuff like that too . Yeah , it didn't feel out of place , it smelled great , it worked with him .

Ryan

So this could be for a formal event .

Myke

It could be , initially I wouldn't think to reach for something like this , for something like that .

Ryan

But I kind of disagree with you . I feel like I'm not saying a bad thing . I mean , like , if it's a company Christmas party , maybe , no , I feel like this is such a unique smell that I think you are kind of dressed up . I don't think this is a chill fragrance . Oh , I disagree .

Myke

Really yeah , it's too playful .

Ryan

It's too fun . That's why I think that it can't be chill . If it's too playful and fun , then I think that's for the . You're dressed up , you're showing out , you're showing your ass .

Myke

Huh , you know , when I think of something like that , I think of elegance . I think of elegance , I think of , like , what's going to be a timeless scent . I mean , that's kind of .

Ryan

but this is where it gets kind of subjective , because it's like the Met Gala People wearing like ketchup bottle dresses and shit you know what .

Myke

I'm saying yeah , but if somebody invited me to that I wouldn't go . Let me wear this pork chop and onion and ketchup outfit . Let me wear this lemon and brown sugar .

Ryan

This shit is good , dude . It is fucking good . I am shocked . This is a great opener for season six , episode one . Hmm ,

Skip it, Sample it, Buy it

Ryan

are you gonna skip it ?

Myke

sample it or buy it . What are you gonna do , ryan I ?

Ryan

mean for 74 ? Dude ? That is the question . That is a crazy deal , dude . For four ounces ? Yeah , there's designers that are on discounted that ain't $74 for 100 ml . That's like three point , that's three ounces . Yeah , I don't know , man , that's a hard one to pass up . The only thing I'm thinking because I do think it's so unique that I think it's I don't know if I could everyday wear this thing . It's like I don't know if I would get . I don't know if I'd get a lot out of it , because it'd be every once in a while I'd wear it . This is definitely I'm dressed up going somewhere . Really , yeah .

Myke

Because you're almost done with that Parfum Cologne of creation . It's , it's , absolutely done I think it's done . Last time I checked , that's a lot of wearing you've been doing on that one yeah , I guess you're right .

Ryan

I guess I could get somewhere out of this . What ? No , it took almost two years to do that . It took a minute . That's a long time for me . I can spend a fragrance in a couple months . Man , this is a hard fucking sample to a buy . I think I could lean into buying this because that is a good smell . Dude , this is like if you've already got Cedric Boise , you've already tried red tobacco , but maybe there's been a couple of Mancera you tried , you didn't really care for , like Oud Lemon Mint was kind of whack , you know , and you just wanted something good for Mancera . I feel like this is a good buy . I really do .

Myke

You think it's masculine or feminine ? Where does it fall On the spectrum ? It doesn't have to be binary here . Where does it fall ? 75% masculine , 25% feminine or 50-50 , 70-30 ? What do you think ?

Ryan

Honestly , it's a good question . I wasn't thinking that until you did it . And now I'm like maybe it's more feminine than it is masculine . Yeah , that's when I'm kind of , I would say , safely , I think , because it's I want to say 60-40 , it's feminine , more feminine than it's masculine . Okay , but I think 60-40 is safe . It's just a little , it's edged out a little bit . Yeah , for sure , I think you can get away with that . It wouldn't stop me from wearing this . I'll tell you that right now .

Myke

No , I think you . It's a good question . I'm still trying to think am I buying this ? Am I sampling this ? I loved it , absolutely loved it on steve . I thought it was fantastic . Does it smell a little different than ?

Myke

when it did them no , it's not too far off . I'm getting more of it because I'm so close to it right now , smelling it but just catching little wafts of it . Yeah , it lives in the same apartment complex as like Layton to me . Okay , with that same type of vibe , it's sweet . It's in the same vicinity of like Angel Share . It kind of has that which I think could go either way , smells great on either man , woman , whatever , smells great all the way . I think this is very similar to something like that . Okay , I don't know , I might . It's close . Let me tell you the fragrance that I want to buy and I feel like it would compete for the same type of fragrance as this is Soma's Halcyonude . Really , yes .

Ryan

When is the last time I've smelled that ? I feel like you wore it sometimes recently . Yeah .

Myke

I did , you loved it .

Ryan

Tony , this was last Milan trip as well brought me 5ml of Halcyon Oud and I loved it . I mean , now that we have an in with Dan , hopefully you can get another 5ml of it , yeah , maybe .

Myke

So I mean I'm glad we would buy it . I think it's fantastic . I mean I'm gladly would buy it . I think it's fantastic .

Ryan

I mean , I've personally bought Soma fragrances . I need to smell that one again because I feel like I've smelled around you . You're saying I loved it , but I don't remember what it smelled like . Hmm , that's another episode .

Myke

I think , just to compare these , it's very similar in that it's sweet , it's spicy Okay , that has some woodsy-ness to it . I'm not saying that these are similar , I'm just saying the vibe of them . They would compete as far as they're the same type of fragrance .

Ryan

God that is a good smell .

Myke

Yeah , and as far as quality and smell goes , it trumps this one .

Ryan

Let me get off subject real quick before we get out of here . Okay , sorry , no , you're good . Should we reach out to ScentSplit ?

Myke

Oh , you're asking the audience .

Ryan

Yeah .

Myke

Let us know . Why should I try to reach out to them to sponsor the show ? Is that what you're saying ? Something I mean ?

Ryan

they're so damn close and they do . Decanting that's what we've always pitched is decanting , yeah , sampling , sampling , decanting , yeah , yeah , decant , yeah , yeah . So it's like , I don't know , the atomizer was great product , smells freaking amazing . I know they didn't make it , but you know right . Well , guys , you made it to the end not of this show not , this isn't it for us . Oh yeah , okay , but you made it to the end of this episode and the end of another season yeah , you're joining us .

Ryan

We're starting it all over again . We're trying to just keep them coming , no matter what . We've been doing good and you guys have been doing good by us . We seriously cannot . We do it all the time . I know we thank you guys all the time , but it'll never get old to me to say thank you no you guys have opened a door for us .

Myke

I mean because you listening , yeah , you know has built this podcast up and through this is open up relationships with people like Kajal and Mo , and that has then , in turn , changed my everlasting soul . It has Again , just the Italy trips . I'm a new person .

Ryan

We've told you before , I picked him up from the airport from the first time he ever went , yeah , and you could see him . It's like somebody that's been and done something good or bad . They've done something really fucking life-changing . They come back and they're different . They're kind of changed a little bit .

Myke

Yeah , this is for the good though . Yeah , for sure . It expanded my mind , it opened up new areas of the map for me . Literally , it changed me . It changed my perspective , my worldview , because look , here's where we are .

Myke

In Texas , we have people that you know , come up from Mexico , yeah . And you have the people that are like , they come up , they don't speak a lick of English , right , yeah . And then you'll see people that get really frustrated with that and they're really shitty to people like that and they'll be like you know , hey , learn english or go back to where you came from . You know , motherfucker , those type of guys and I got to be one of those motherfuckers over there because I didn't speak a lick of italian and just trying to order a sandwich was difficult A panino , you know Just trying to . And there are people that were out there that don't . They don't speak English . I mean , why would they ? They're in Italy , they're speaking Italian and trying to .

Myke

On my way back , even from the very first trip , I go to the train station , which is like an hour-long train ride from Milan to the airport , and if you get on the wrong one , you're fucked . You are absolutely fucked . And the kiosk , the English selection , is . You know , it's kind of it's almost like somebody who doesn't speak English , like formatted all the English , yeah , so confusing . And I was running down , I was trying to talk to different people , like which ones ? To the airport , to the aeroplane , to the ? You know , I'm like trying to , and they're like no , no , yeah , a hundred percent like I'm , and that little moments like that . I mean there were great fun moments too where , like I talked with people in ubers and broken Spanglish plus Portuguese to make made up Italian words and we had a great time . But then moments like that too , where I'm like I'm really struggling with the language and I'm just trying to get where I need to be and I was like I loved it . Yeah , it was an adventure , it was .

Myke

But then I come back to where I'm at it . Yeah , you know , it was an adventure , it was . But then I come back to where I'm at and now I have this newfound empathy for people that are in our neck of the woods , even for sure , that kind of struggling , and it makes you want to help them a little bit more . You've , like , you've worn their shoes , you get it . You know , it's just like the lessons and stuff have . You know , they've translated into my , my own everyday life .

Myke

I wasn't ever the guy that was like I know , but now I'm like . I see me as them and them as me . Now you know , but I had never been in their shoes before . Yeah , it's so cool , I just like I said , life-changing . I just can't express enough gratitude . That obviously was brought on by the podcast . It was brought on with our connections with Kajal through this podcast , and so at the very catalyst of it is you guys . Absolutely , you made it happen . You turned it from something that only me and Ryan were listening to each week to now there's a great handful of you out there , isn't that ?

Ryan

wild dude . We literally , when we go back and look at those months , we know just those couple of bumps are just us on the stat line .

Myke

Oh , dude , I remember the first time we saw that 10 people listened to an episode . Holy shit . Yeah , I called you . I was in the bubble bath . I was taking a bath I remember calling you . You sound so spoiled . Not all the time I was in my bubble bath and I was watching Pretty Woman , I checked my phone . Well , I mean , the truth is we've talked about it . I have lower back issues , so I was actually soaking in like Epsom salt . But you know I'm in the bath .

Ryan

He was watching Pretty Woman , yeah .

Myke

Julia Roberts . She was sobbing watching she gets to shop . Yeah , rodeo , but I remember calling you and going . Can you fucking believe it ? There's 10 people out there , 10 people we don't know . Don't know and they're listening to us , and now there's like 25 of y'all .

Ryan

There's a lot more . But all to say , seriously , guys , thank you so much . And going forward just like every other season , progressively we've gotten better and done more for the show . We're going to go hard at this this year . That's right . We have a lot of cool things planned Now not this episode , unfortunately , or ironically enough , but we are going to be leaning into video . So much this year , so get ready .

Myke

You guys are building kind of growing our video platforms that we're on . You're showing interest in some of the short form content that we've done . We've put some interviews out there and occasionally we will drop some full video episodes of things . If you're just dying to see more of those immediately , you can always be a Patreon . But even if you're not a Patreon , we're just thankful that you're listening and you're helping us grow this podcast , and so we love you and until next time , spray it up , y'all .