The Cologne Podcast
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The Cologne Podcast
#309 - Tsar by Van Cleef and Arpels: Vintage Batch
We revisit the iconic scents of yesteryears, like the unforgettable Van Cleef & Arpels Tsar from 1989. Step into the sensory-rich world of the early '90s department stores, and reminisce with us about classic fragrances such as Tommy for Men by Tommy Hilfiger. Our journey isn't just about the scents; it's about the stories and emotions they evoke, from our own personal connections to an amusing encounter with Richard, a coffee shop owner who was captivated by Percival.
hello, ladies and gentlemen.
Myke:The time is now upon us for the cologne podcast with mike and ryan and we're two best friends.
Ryan:We're going on a fragrance journey, smelling vintage fragrances and giving you uneducated opinions guys, I have talked about this fragrance probably since the dawn of this podcast, oh God, and I always would refer to you know it's one of the two I usually do. Tommy Boy is one of them. I was like that kind of reminds me of Tommy Boy, right, tommy Boy, I'm sorry.
Myke:Wait, it is, isn't, it, Is it. Is it Tommy Boy? You'd say like Tommy sport or something like that, tommy for men, tommy hill figure you know hill tommy boy I love it.
Ryan:Tommy hill figure sounds gonna it's hold on. I gotta know, I gotta know hold on leave it, toddy boy, oh my god come on. It's not tommy boy, it's to's Tommy for men by Tommy Hilfiger oh baby. But today's actually is another. Every once in a while I smell a fragrance and it takes me back to this. It reminds me of very early 90s. This came out in 1989. Oh, taylor Swift time. Is that a year that she has one of her Dumbass songs?
Myke:No, that was the year she was born and the name of an album oh, she named one of her albums 1989?. Uh-huh, okay, don't act like that's not cool, bro. Yeah, it's totally cool.
Ryan:But, yeah, we would smell some fragrances and they would remind me of this Early 90s, walking in the mall, walking through Dillillards to get to the main food court area, and this was one of the fragrances that at the time was sold. I remember my dad purchasing it and I would use his fragrance bottle so reveal the fragrance. What are we smelling today? What's this vintage fragrance that one of our friends of the podcast, one of our patreons yeah, jonathan bleep sent in? Okay, what are the fans going to listen to us smell today?
Myke:well, if you closed your eyes and then opened up your spotify app and for some reason you didn't see the title of this episode, I forget that, sorry. Or maybe it just came on right after you're listening to joe rogan or something, because you know we're contemporaries with him. Okay, we're gonna be smelling van cleef and our pals czar yeah, god, this is a long time coming.
Myke:Man, I'm fucking yeah, baby, I'm pumped. Let me tell you what geranium with a j on free grantica has to say about it that's got to be your new user handle on whatever game we play online together. Okay, you're talking about Marvel Rivals.
Ryan:Oh yeah.
Myke:You're obsessed. Yes, he says. This smells like a medicine cabinet from 30 years ago.
Ryan:Okay, that's it. Huh, that's all he says. That's the knowledge. Geraniums dropping huh, he's dropping them. Geraniums Okay, that's it. Huh, that's all he says. That's the knowledge. Geraniums dropped in huh, he's dropping them geraniums. Okay, well, you know, we'll see. We'll see. I feel like that got you a little feisty. I just remember it being good. I really loved it growing up. Does that make you mad, ryan?
Myke:Mad enough to kill?
Ryan:No, okay Thought we had them, folks. But before we get in today's fragrance because I definitely want to get into it we got to give you our one night stand review of percivalyan after laying in bed, once again with parfums de marley, hmm, baby, yeah and soaking up their scent, uh-huh, and then also passing it off to another person in real life. That's right, richard, who lost their ever-loving mind?
Myke:Yes, we go in, which, by the way, hey, shout out, kojo Roastery. Maybe we need to connect you two. We've got a local coffee shop that we always go to. They're always hooking us up with the tastiest brews.
Myke:We do powwows there, we do, yeah, we're you know, business planning and stuff for the day job, and we'll throw this guy some fragrances because he's into colognes and things like that too. So we like to bring him a decant. If we got a you know a bottle with a little bit left, we'll slide him some, and so over time we've been giving him different fragrances. Yeah, and just the last time we went in, I had my because I talked about it on the episode I had the rest of my travel atomizer of it. I said I'm gonna give this to richard and he took it and he took the cap off and smelled the atomizer and he's like, oh, hey, so then he started showing some of the ladies behind the counter and they're like oh, I really like that, and he sprayed it on and fast forward. We get our drinks, we get we both get avocado toast with, you know, the fried egg on top and he comes and has to see.
Ryan:I'm laughing because I feel like we said really I don't know booze, I don't know dude, go ahead yeah I mean, you know, sometimes we get a breakfast burrito, but today, you know, we had the you know avocado toast.
Myke:Yeah, and he comes, sits down beside us and he says, guys, this is the best one you've ever brought in I mean, he really laminated that.
Myke:Yeah, he was like whatever you guys gotta do to slide me a full bottle of this bad boy. Let's just say you'll be hooked up, wink, wink, yeah, with all the caffeine your body can handle, and we said we'll figure that out for you. Yeah, he's a great guy. We, we love going to the coffee shop, so he loved it. Best thing he's ever smelled. That's what he said. Yeah, what does?
Ryan:mike. Think though, after saying that I think it's great.
Myke:I think it is. I think it should be highly considered if you're a guy and you want something that is very wearable, very mass appealing but has more personality than your just stereotypical designer fragrance out there. Yeah, you've got to try that one. Okay, I like it. I've got to wear it a few times just from the travel atomizer. I enjoy it. Is it me 100%? Maybe not, but it's pretty damn good.
Ryan:I think your summer of it is good. I remember being like it smells good, but I wasn't like overtly impressed just because it is very safe. It is a little notch above, uh, your typical designer by the end of the episode.
Myke:You were loving it though it did get pretty good.
Ryan:And when he brought it to the table, because I hadn't smelled in a minute and I'm just smelling coffee aromas, it's clearing, cleansing the palate, you know, yeah, it does get pretty good. And when he brought it to the table because I hadn't smelled a minute and I'm just smelling coffee aromas, it's clearing, cleansing the palate, you know, yeah, it does smell pretty good. And I took it back from you know me I was like snatched. I was like, yeah, let me smell it again. So it does smell pretty good.
Myke:You're like, oh god, that is good. But you know what ruined it for us though, what we said. You know what kind of lives you know in this same cul-de-sac?
Ryan:yeah it's like there's dudes are two houses on the same cul-de-sac but one's really taken care of I mean one's really, really nice, and that is ferris by Kajal no bullshit. They do smell similar, but Ferris is like way clackery.
Myke:It's yeah, it's way stronger and it's just got more going on to it. And this is what happened. We went into the little editing room and we're working on some video projects for a client and you're smelling it and you're saying, oh my God, I'm really liking this. And I go you know what I like better, Ferris? And you go, oh, let me, actually, let me go spray it. You come back into the Cologne podcast studio area and you spray two tester strips and when you walk back, you hand me one and I smell it and I go that's Ferris, and that is leagues above.
Ryan:They do smell very similar, but that one does fucking clown, it does it even better.
Myke:It's sick dude. So I feel like if you're going niche route but you still want that vibe and you can get your hands on some Ferris, might be worth doing that over Percival. I hate to like put these head to head, yeah, but I kind of feel like if you're gonna spend your hard-earned money, people, we're gonna give you the real truth yeah, that's the short and skinny of it.
Ryan:I really do think you summarize it great. It is really a good scent, very safe, but I don't mean like it's just generic, it's not generic generic. No, it smells really good and I would say both that and even though we didn't review it then, but both that and Ferris are safe. I would definitely give Parfums de Marly the edge on being a little bit more safer because it is a little bit more subdued and not so yes, yeah, not as loud, yeah, a little bit softer, yeah For sure, probably a little bit closer to designer, even absolutely.
Myke:But ferris has something going on where it. It meets the criteria for that safe office wear, but it also has a little bit more personality and almost a little bit more like um, let me think of the word jenny jacquard is that the word?
Ryan:no, keep thinking mike. Uh, not mature todd play the jeopardy music over this why is my mind?
Myke:probably because I only slept two hours last night. That's why you're coming in with all this energy. You're like delirium mike, yeah, and I told you I started to drink a energy drink and then it made my freaking lips freak out, yeah, and I was like, am I dying anyway? It just does something like more classically, yeah, masculine well, there you go.
Ryan:It's a sample to, I guess, a buy for the right person for sure, but today I'm ready to get on with it. I've got to smell it. I've been, yeah, hungering for this fragrance for years. Yeah, van Cleef and Arpels czar. You do dibs man, god, jonathan, bleep you bastard. I am so excited for this. God, let's do it. I'm kind of scared to spray. I don't want to be let down.
Myke:Should we do vips of the podcast, because jonathan bleep is definitely in there? What do you mean by vip like just people that have, like have really.
Ryan:You know, they've gone above and beyond but I mean, when you say vip, what's it mean to them? Like they, they coming on the show, like I don't know.
Myke:I mean, I don't know that. Yeah, maybe I was just saying they need some sort of recognition. For sure, we're out there loving you guys and you're loving us back, jesus ryan how many was that enough for me to wear?
Ryan:god, she's just as beautiful as I remember. No, this is you, this is fucking me, oh god dude, I'm gonna smell like a 55 year old man.
Myke:I fucking love this shit. I feel like I've got liver spots already popping up on my body when does that start to happen?
Ryan:I'm getting worried. I'm getting up there.
Myke:No, we've already agreed that you look at least a few years younger than your actual biological age.
Ryan:What do you smell with this? And very briefly I will say, on my skin I do get a little bit of the medicine thing going on that he was talking about.
Myke:Geranium thing going on, that he was talking about geranium. To me this smells like you know, I'm six years old and I'm tooling around in papa's fragrances.
Ryan:Oh yeah, maybe he's got like a little drawer, got a shaving kit in there. Yeah, got a little like aftershave bomb or something in there.
Myke:Well, that's kind of the thing is. I don't't know about you guys, but my grandpa never had a fragrance with an atomizer on it. It was always the splash on. Yeah, he was also an asshole. Just didn't want you guys to think I was remembering fondly of that Bastard of a man.
Ryan:Oh God, you guys, to think I was remembering fondly of that bastard of a man. Oh shit, it does have a weird like vitamin smell at the base of this on top. It's like it's got a sting in the air. You know, not a stink, a sting, it has like a has a little bite. Yeah, yeah, it's got some teeth to it. Very, uh, old school masculine. This is definitely something you fucking just got done shaving and you sprayed your skin all over and it fucking set you on fucking fire. Dude, it's a lot, but it's a lot right now. It is great, but you walked out and you were a fucking man I mean, I feel feel pretty manly right now.
Myke:Yeah, I feel something, I feel older, for sure god, I love it, I fucking love it this, oh boy, this is some. You think this isn't for the modern era. It it depends on the person. Really.
Ryan:Yeah, you think, walk in me and you work at a fucking place. You're Xeroxing your ass, cheeks and shit. I walk by, you smell this. Would you be upset with it?
Myke:If you were wearing it, yeah, I'd be like did you inherit your granddad's aftershave? That's all he left you? Huh? No, I mean, I smell it and it's like it would have to be an older gentleman I don't think this is that.
Ryan:Do you think it's loud? Is this like overwhelming to you?
Myke:I don't know, maybe not, maybe it's not just like choking me out, but I still feel like it's got some clackers to it.
Ryan:Oh it does, but it's like for me, as far as like the loudness, like punchiness, I feel like it's like a three out of ten, really yeah.
Myke:I mean, this is definitely no like Lamar Noir.
Ryan:No, okay, so you just mentioned Lamar Noir and we just talked about Gajal a second ago when we first did the episode a while back for kajal home 2. Yeah, and I have some at the house, I need to bring it here. Home 2 is the modernized version of this to me. Oh, okay, it is so fucking good. Forbis loved it. I'm sorry that I'm bringing them up up again, but it is what it is, but I'm telling you they. They are similar. So I was not. I feel vindicated. I guess what I'm trying to get. I feel vindicated that I've said that it smells similar because they do.
Myke:Oh man, that's like saying the Thing and Hateful Eight are similar. They are, but it's not like even that close to me.
Ryan:I mean, I feel like Especially modern, I feel like that does that way better than this.
Myke:Oh yeah, om2 is sweeter. You wore it the other day to pool Smells fucking good. And about 30 minutes in I was like, oh my God, I forgot how badass that fragrance was. It smells incredible. Should we just rename this episode? Yeah, kajal Spotlight, or something like that, probably. Let me tell you how much Forbus loved it. He went through the bottle so fast we never even got to get the bottle back from him. Really, yeah, it was the first one to go through and then cedraboise after that.
Ryan:Guys, god damn. I will say there is something a little bit more subdued of this. It's, but it's also so masculine. This is how I feel like men's fragrances should smell like to me now, even now, dude huh, there's a certain muskiness to it, but not over the top, like probably. You know georgio beverly hills from back in the day that one's a fucking nuclear power plant. Yeah, I feel like this is just like a home generator outside, but it's fucking reliable, you know I don't want to give this fragrance like the people's elbow.
Myke:Yeah, be strong. It smells dated.
Ryan:To me this smells like 89 I mean, to some people that's a good. You know, it's a good year 89 yeah, it is.
Myke:A lot of icons showed up around them. Some of them were just a wee little boy in 89. Not even a full year old Just walking around peeing in his pants, being neglected. That's not funny, but you know that's the dark humor that we've come to appreciate yeah, let me give you the price and popularity of this fragrance really quick.
Ryan:Okay price you're looking at about 600 fucking dollars for 100 ml this, if you find it still out there. So this juice that jonathan bleep gave us, this is probably 50 bucks worth of juice right here and we're gonna use every drop. At least I will, I know you will.
Myke:I'm already you're laced up.
Ryan:You're already. It's yours popularity. I mean it is old, it came out in 89. Not a lot of people are going to go track that down and leave a room, but I, you know, shockingly enough, about 1500 people did. That's like a 4.15 out of5 okay, so pretty good. Yeah, I mean I see why this is so fucking good.
Myke:I wish I had a counter for every time you've referenced this over the course of the catalog of our podcast.
Ryan:God, it probably over 50 times it has to be.
Myke:You got so sick of me mentioning it to you, and then I don't even think we did an episode on it.
Ryan:I've got about that much left in the bottle. We need to come back and do a fucking thing. Damn, you've been wearing it. I wear the fuck out of that fragrance. Really, I still think it's great. In fact, somebody in our Patreon if you're not a Patreon, go be one but somebody in our Patreon actually mentioned Tommy. They just bought a bottle of it and they were like this seriously smells good even for today, and I have to agree yeah, very fucking good there's another bottle.
Myke:that remember when you were like what have you ever done for me, mike? Oh yeah, that was early on too.
Ryan:Sometimes I give you half my hamburger or something.
Myke:Yeah, no, you don't. When have you done that? Closest thing is we split queso sometimes when Mexican food Tex-Mex. I watch you sometimes and I'm like oh, he's just throwing that shit in the garbage.
Myke:No, I've shared those chicken wings the last time. Oh, that's true, you did. Yeah, we're like an old married couple. Really. I'm like dude, I can't eat. All of you Want some of this, and that's like my favorite part of the day. I just wait for it. I'm like a dog. I just sit and I'm just perched up on the table waiting. I've already eaten all my food and I just watch and pray.
Ryan:I will say on the tester strip, this definitely does smell dated. Yeah, man, it's almost like you just stumbled into an attic in a way.
Myke:Oh, no, it smells better than that, I don't know. To me, though, that label could be Old Spice, Brute, Really Royal Copenhagen, or whatever. You need to do one on that too. Really Royal Copenhagen, or whatever. You need to do one on that too. I feel like you know Paco Rabanne, poor home from back in the day. Yeah, you know 80s. To me that was just what they. They all smelled, kind of similar to this.
Ryan:You know what's sad is, all my life I thought Van Cleef and Arpels had some type of connection to God. Who's the famous spaghetti western actor? Something Van Cleef? Oh, I don't know, I don't think they are, though I don't think they are in the slightest, isn't that kind of wild Founder? Was Alfred Van Cleef? Definitely not the same fucking guy. By the way, I want to bring this up. I mean, it's small details here, but I had to because it's uh kind of hilarious. Perfumer how do you pronounce that? Felipe bostoni or whatever? Yeah, sure, okay, I'm so sorry. Felipe, uh, perfumer, felipe boston, I think, is the name. Okay, he hasn't really made a lot of, like you know, home runs, right, he hadn't made a lot of stuff out there. He's made a couple things. I don't know of him. I don't either. This was his most popular fragrance, by the way. Makes sense. Second most popular fragrance, though, is this one oriflame freya. And look at this fucking bottle for this thing what is that nonsense?
Myke:right, and it's a feminine fragrance and, let me tell you it, it looks like you'd find it in a sock drawer somewhere.
Ryan:It looks like a fucking vibrator with a safety pin. Yeah, like you pull that thing out first and it just starts. Do the crank up sound? You do. It makes me laugh so much.
Myke:He really just did that. You got to do the motion, yeah, yeah, and it goes kaboom.
Ryan:He should have went really all in. You got to give him the few cord pulls and then the full rev.
Myke:I need to work on my like, where it's like flooded and won't turn over. You're just over there yanking your chain.
Ryan:So many times. By the way, one of the players and uh, marvel rivals that happened to accompany my team last night that was a very good player actually and his name was yurkin my johnson and then he went off into the sunset. I never saw him again. Oh man, don't you hate when that happens.
Myke:Yeah, it's kind of dumb.
Ryan:You've kind of mentioned it. We'll gloss over it. You think this is for an older person. You already felt like you were getting liver spots coming up as soon as you smelled this.
Myke:Yes, for sure when your chest hair starts getting gray in it. I that like gives me some existential sort of dread Really. Oh yeah, because I'm like you look really damn old when you got gray in like your body hair.
Ryan:God, you know the most random thing. I went and got a haircut the other day. Yeah, and it's one of our local haircut country town. Oh, I haven't seen the. Do I mean you're?
Myke:seeing it kind of yeah, he's wearing a hat, if that gives you guys any sort of confidence. First of all, I was really happy with the hair.
Ryan:Oh okay, I really was shocker. Uh, and she's a nice young lady, I go in there every once in a while and she'll cut my hair. She's cut pretty much everybody's hair my family but uh, she hadn't seen me in a while. This is this same haircut. By the way, she hadn't seen me forever. Yeah, and she's cutting on my hair and stuff and she's just like, oh, you know, I ain't ever seen that before. On you right there, that fucking thing growing up. I'm like, yeah, I've had that mole there for a while there. Oh, and it just made me really self-conscious.
Myke:Really Did she say you ought to get that looked at? No, she was like you got a dermatologist you can go to.
Ryan:she did kind of say that actually, oh, and you know, the night, the nice southern way it wasn't she wasn't being rude by she's like bless your heart yeah, she was. She wasn't being rude, she was just like oh, you know, I've cut your hair for fucking 20 years. Never seen that.
Myke:Yeah you might be dying. She's like, yeah, we'll do a nice little fade here. That could be skin cancer, and as we gradually go up, we'll put a two on top and we'll it's pretty much how that whole thing yeah for sure have a great day hon I love southern people.
Ryan:Yeah, me too.
Myke:Seriously they're, they're seriously you can't tell if they love you or hate you and it's not like how the media spends everything.
Ryan:I promise you it's not all like this crazy shit here. It's pretty hometown and cool, but yeah. So you think this is older people or older gentlemen? Hold on, I got to rewind for a second.
Myke:I love the difference between because I lived in Boston as well yeah, when you live down here in Texas, you feel like everyone loves you Absolutely. And I had some when I lived in in boston, had some family come up and they visited and literally they thought everybody was about to get into a fight up there because you just think everybody hates you, yeah, but then they'll like, they'll hug it out and laugh and now you know that's just it. There's just a different type of, you know, like camaraderie. That happens, yeah, when I lived okay, so when I lived in colorado, every time I'd like walk, pop. You know, here down south it's just a different type of camaraderie that happens, yeah, okay.
Ryan:So when I lived in Colorado, every time I'd walk past here down south. Look, it is what it is. It's an unwritten rule. You walk by somebody hey, how's it going? Yeah, you're doing all right. Hey, how's it going today, sir, ma'am? You open doors, yada, yada, yada.
Ryan:Yeah, up there is in the kind of grand junction area, but it was like people just did not want to have the time of day with you. They just could not. You could say something and they would just walk right past. They're just in their own world, yeah, and it's like they almost felt like the best time I ever did that, though, I was in glenwood springs, it was, it just snowed, you know, it's fucking cold.
Ryan:And I walked by this guy about my same age and I was with a young lady at the time and we're like just like enjoying the making out. Yeah, we're walking, we're not walking and making out, but we're walking together. And I'm like, hey, how's it going, sir? And he just ignored me. And you know me, I'm very center cross, like fucking asshole, you know. Yeah, but as soon as he walked by me and he ignored me, he fucking bit it, dude, he hit. He hit a patch of fucking ice. Dude instant karma dude. He looked like goddamn goofy dude. It was fucking nuts. And then I felt kind of bad for him because it was.
Myke:It was pretty brutal oh man, I think it's like. Down south everybody's like dogs. You know, a dog's always happy to see you, no matter who you are. You know they're like. And up north is kind of like they're like cats, you know, yeah, they'll. They kind of do their own thing. Occasionally they'll be like terrible cat impression. Well, I hate cats so I don't spend a lot of time studying them. I avoid them at all costs. Oh God, there was some emperor that did some sort of decree against cats. They literally exported all the cats out of the country and then plagues arose because of all the rats. Yeah, I was about to say that's probably what happened, and they got their ass kicked by some plagues.
Ryan:Briefly, really quick. I got to tell you this the notes on this thing. I don't even know if I even want to read it. There's a fucking million notes, do you feel?
Myke:it's kind of like the uh ck1? Oh dude, yeah the ck1 like 40 of them.
Ryan:God damn, you think you're like making some type of voodoo concoction.
Myke:You, you got so many things in here, you got freaking toads, blood and the hair off the Adam's apple of a hippo and shit.
Ryan:I think you need to just get two hours of sleep and you're really bringing some a game on this.
Myke:I'm going to crash so hard in a minute.
Ryan:Especially after we get this lunch. We're about to eat. What are you going to get today? Hamburger? I'm going to get today, hamburger.
Myke:Huh, you're going to get the my go chicken wings. You liking the chicken wings?
Ryan:there, I am Okay. Are you going to skip it, sample it or buy it? What are you going to do? Ryan Jonathan Bleep, thank you for sending this in. You, lovely man. Yeah, thank you for sending this in. You, lovely man. Yeah, thank you for sending this in. As we said, he has been a friend of the podcast for the longest time. He's also been a Patreon for the longest time and he has done so much for this show. He's one of many, but he has sent in so goddamn much. Yeah, I feel like him and Cynthia compete. Yeah, like, keep and score Exactly. Thank you. Uh, keep in score Exactly. Um, thank you for sending this in, cause this really is nostalgic, wise for me. This is such a good. It's put me in a better mood today.
Myke:Yeah, you were so excited Cause we were like, yeah, what episode are we going to do? And I was like man, we got that czar and you're Dude instantly I was like we're doing it.
Ryan:I've been wanting to smell it forever, yeah.
Myke:So, but answer the question, ryan, what are you going?
Ryan:to do. It is going to be a sample. Okay, because I just cannot justify spending the price tag. Yeah, $600 on 100 ml.
Myke:No, it's just. I have a sneaky suspicion that our friend Jonathan didn't drop that. He's a man who knows the back alleys of the fragrance community. He may, and he seems to find a pretty good deal.
Ryan:But I will say for sampling, especially if you're just like in the market, just kind of remember what it smells like. Definitely a sample, Bring it back.
Myke:I do think it is a little dated, but that can be good too, you know you know, yeah, it depends on what vibe you're trying to put out.
Myke:There's nothing wrong with having like a vintage vibe, absolutely. There's a musician that I like named spencer, sutherland, yeah, and he has this very like bell bottomy. You know, 60s, 70s, look, you know, his music is very like queen meets, I don't know bon jovi or something, and, uh, you know, maybe he rocks something like this. Maybe you've got that sort of personality that you want the old school vibe. I did that in college. I was like wearing bell bottoms and shit. Yeah, mainly because that was the clothes I had, because I had hand-me-downs, literally my grandmother made these. I wore, you know, the polyester bell bottoms like nearly every day. I, like my grandpa's old cowboy shirts and stuff had the huge collar.
Ryan:I look like john travolta you know, I was telling somebody just recently I just feel like I'm everybody I know that in my close circle have had like a tough life, oh yeah, yeah. And then I I was telling them I've told you I feel kind of, I feel guilty because like you're, like, because you had it so good, yeah, was I a silver spoon baby? Do you think I was?
Myke:oh yeah are you serious? Really? Yes, are. Oh, I've heard stories of your childhood. You know your parents would buy you some expensive-ass jacket, oh yeah, and you'd sell it for like 20 bucks to just have pocket money. You'd probably spend $100 on it. I don't know if.
Ryan:I did that. That makes you sound like you've got a drug problem.
Myke:What the hell? Yeah, dude, you're freaking, huffing white out and shit. No, yeah, I would say on the spectrum you definitely lean more towards spoiled for sure.
Ryan:I definitely can say. Anytime a new console came out, that was always like guaranteed a Christmas gift, Damn dude For Christmas.
Myke:I'll tell you what I got. I got my choice. If I needed a new pair of shoes or a new gift Damn dude For Christmas. I'll tell you what I got. I got my choice. If I needed a new pair of shoes or a new pair of pants, I could pick one. I would get that, and then I would get apples, oranges and pecans in like a stocking. What?
Ryan:the hell. Yeah, I had it okay, chris.
Myke:I'm like delving into the details I had like a BS what they had Kiss come out and play in our living room. I was talking with somebody on Instagram and they were like you've hinted on the podcast that you had like a wild childhood, yeah. And I was like yeah, it's pretty damn wild. And they're like how wild are you talking Like, is it like crazy or is it like scary?
Ryan:I'm like it's fucking nightmare fuel for some people yeah, you told me something like yeah, I would fucking hate that.
Myke:And you go one of two ways with it. Yeah, my sister went the complete opposite way and I I feel bad for her because, look, you know, part of it is like nature versus nurture, sort of a thing. Yeah, you can't, you know, we had the childhood that would make you jump into the drugs and the wild shit and and she went heavy on it and I went the opposite way let me ask you this really quick Do you find yourself cause you know growing up like that where you're heading to like cheese between you know pants and walnuts.
Myke:Yeah, do you want to eat or do you want to be clothed?
Ryan:Yeah, you know my dad. You know he lived with a family of you know. They were a family of nine, really, including the mom and the dad and the kids, and they were sharecroppers. Uh-huh, dead broke, really, including the mom and the dad and the kids, and they were sharecroppers dead broke. My grandfather died without you know actual plumbing in the house, right? Yeah, do you? Because for my, for my dad and that's where I feel like I mean my childhood was good. Yeah, is he? He honestly kind of lived above his means in a way, but he would constantly get the children everything they ever wanted, because he did grow up in the same thing where it's like he never got anything.
Myke:Do you find yourself doing that by chance sometimes, where you sure you do too much, you feel like you gotta oh, I had to dial it back for sure, yeah, with my kids, because at first my grandmother did a great job of instilling like, don't go to haywire with money. Yeah, they literally everything was cash. They never. They wouldn't even get a credit card, yeah, or like a debit card. They just didn't believe it. They were like, I mean, I don't know, that's some end of days type shit. You know the debit card. And so, uh, she told me all the time, never get a credit card, never borrow money, you know that sort of a thing. So luckily I didn't go like too wild but, yeah, if I had the money, I was doing everything I could for the kids. I just wanted to. I know I almost was like reliving my childhood through them and I was like trying to create all these different scenarios for them to where they had the best, all the memories and seeing the characters and stuff. So we went to the Disney on Ice and the PJ Masks live events. We did all that stuff Because it's like I wanted them to like and I think that has been the greatest part of my life has been watching their like.
Myke:It's awe and wonder, yeah, of just these things. You know, seeing them so excited, like the joy of a child. To me, there's nothing better than seeing that. So, yeah, I've since dialed it back, you know. But now that they're older, too, I'm trying to teach them to manage their own money. So it's like they're like oh, I want to get the battle pass, but I also want these skins for fortnight. And I'm like, well, you, you know, this is how many v bucks you got and you got to decide what do you want? Because you know I try not to cave because they'll come. Be like dad, you know, is there anything, any work I can do around the house? You know, like they're always coming up to me, I'm just looking for work, dad, you know what it's like. I'm sure. I'm sure we can find $10 worth of chores for you to do oh, god bless.
Myke:It's hard out there, Dad.
Ryan:Thank you, Jonathan Bleep, for being our dad today and giving us something really cool to freaking smell on, we'd be smelling like some daddies.
Myke:We're going to go to lunch smelling like some straight up old school dads.
Ryan:I'm going to freaking love it dude. I'm going to spray more of this before I even leave. You're just going to lace up on it. I'm not going to go super laced because I definitely want to be able to come back to this and just smell it from time to time. Yeah, I'm definitely going to put on a couple more.