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#318 - Louis XV 1722 by Xerjoff

Myke & Ryan Season 6 Episode 318

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A single sip of champagne can conjure memories of celebration, luxury, and effervescence - but can a fragrance truly capture that same bubbly essence? Xerjoff certainly attempts this ambitious feat with their Louis XV 1722, a perfume collaboration inspired by the world's finest champagne.

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Ryan

hello everybody , welcome to the glowing podcast I'm mike , I'm ryan .

Myke

We're two best friends . We're going on a fragrance journey across the world and giving you uneducated opinions today we're gonna be tipping back a glass .

Ryan

No , not really . We're to be smelling a fragrance that is in collaboration with some type of champagne made in some other place , baby , it's Zerjoff , it's Louis XV 1722 . Hoorah , you remember that's a good year on champagne , right oh ?

Myke

that's the best year . From what I hear , it's a fantastic year . Oh , philwillie12579 on Fragrantico was saying it was a great year . Okay , no , not really . He does have something to say about this fragrance . It smells like outright booze in my experience . Awesome , I kind of like that , like if you poured a bottle of vodka on yourself and then tried to add some fruity notes to it . Honestly , very disappointing scent . Maybe it does differ per skin , but I would not suggest applying by it . Hmm , oh , filly Willy .

Ryan

Oh , chili Willy . But before we get into that , I kind of got to give you a haphazard one night stand review of a Patreon episode . We just set our dumb asses down in here , we grab this tester strip and we go . Oh God .

Myke

Oh , this is like a triple one night stand review . Let's do it . Okay , is that fine ? You want to talk about a Patreon episode one night stand review and then talk about Jean-Paul Gaultier ?

Ryan

I'll just say this it's kind of a one night stand review , it's . I mean , obviously you can tell by the tone of what I was putting down , yeah , that I was getting ready to lubricate some things oh well , I'm sorry , this was uh unplanned very unplanned , but I just want to say , uh , check out the patreon .

Ryan

we cover a fragrance by clive christian that I think has turned into something quite pleasant Molto bene . Also , while you're there , there's a great community there . It has grown exponentially bigger than we'd ever thought . Everybody in there is fucking amazing . Hit the music , todd yeah . One Night Stand Review . I never told them what we were One Night Stand reviewing , but we're One Night Stand reviewing John Paul . Godier's Uh-huh Elixir , absolute yeah , the double the double word use the mail . We were both pleasantly surprised . Yeah , I mean , it's not bad , mm-hmm . It's not groundbreaking though either .

Myke

No , but it was a departure from what I expected out of Le Mans Correct and felt a little bit more in line with the Dior vibes these days . 100% Shocked on that , but all in all pretty good , enjoyed it .

Ryan

It was really good , but would you if I held a gun to your head , Mike , just like ?

Myke

this Like a Springfield Hellcat Pro like to my freaking noggin .

Ryan

Yeah , and I'm looking down the sights and there's a U-shape in the front and that dot down the middle . To help me just line it up with your freaking temporal bone Illuminated by tritium . Yeah , if I had that , I don't really have that pointed , but if I did have that point right at your fucking dome , yeah , would you buy that over the dior home line or intense ?

Myke

whatever . Oh , that is a good question , especially with a gun in my face yeah , what's the fucking answer . Get that , okay , todd jesus , uh , hmm pop quiz hot shot yeah , I don't know . Is saying it that way ? Yeah , comparing it to dior , I don't know . On that , yeah , the price was decent for an elixir at 100 mil . It's where it should be .

Ryan

On price it was like 120 something that felt right to me , that , well , that should be where the price should be .

Myke

Yes , yeah , because the other elixirs for like four ounces too , right , yeah the other elixirs , god , they're going 50 mil . They want 160 170 bucks . That's way too much . So I think jpg is right on the price if that's something you're into , for me I'm just not gonna wear it . So I'm not gonna buy it . I don't think it's bad . I'd wear it occasionally .

Ryan

You know , let me just put some blasphemy out there . Man ADG can straight go off right now . Oh yeah , yeah .

Myke

Well , we've gone through that already .

Ryan

I'm sorry .

Myke

He's still burnt . I'm burnt , man , don't fuck me like that . We've been talking about it here recently . We even went back to D Again , just thinking maybe our noses were on some crack cocaine that day or something . Nope , didn't get any better for us , and I would not put it on my skin ever again .

Ryan

Oh , so now we can do the quadruple fucking .

Myke

You brought it up , okay , this is your fault . You got us in this mess . I'm trying to get us out . Well , let me get us out of here .

Ryan

I'll tell you what . You got us in this mess . I'm trying to get us out . Well , let me , I'll get us out of here . I'll tell you what . On this Jean-Paul Gaultier , le Mans , elixir Absolute , which is just the longest convoluted name ever . If somebody ever asked me what I was wearing , I'd feel ashamed to tell them . Would you just say Le Mail . Then you lie to them , because then they go . I'm going to get that for my husband .

Myke

They're like this doesn't smell like that guy . Yeah , I think it's actually pronounced LaMail , LaMail , whatever . I saw somebody else had Francis Courchon on oh , and he pronounced it that way . They were just talking about how far it's kind of come .

Ryan

Well , this is what I'll say about it . It was everything we just said a minute ago . My only thing is and I don't think it's that much more expensive being pure .

Myke

This isn't Francis Kirkjohn , by the way . I think it was Quentin Bish right who perfumed . Yes .

Ryan

The John Paul . But I am saying like Just clarifying as far as my skip it , sample it , buy it , yes , I would say I would lean towards . If I was going to get that kind of smell , I would go the Dior home intents .

Ryan

I think it just does everything that that does perfectly . But I think it's that the John Paul's trying to do something different and for their brand . But it is kind of similar to Dior , right , but for that price it's good . I just feel like Dior kind of does edge it out . So if I was going to get one , it'd be that . So for me it's a polite skip is what I was trying to say All that to skip .

Myke

I'd recommend it as a sample . For sure , I'd occasionally spray it on , but it's nothing that I would ever spend money on . If I , like you know , didn't have anything that day and for whatever reason was in dillard's and for whatever reason was drawn to the specific shape of that bottle , I might spray it on that day maybe all right , let's get out of this segment , okay , before something else pops up , and let's smell this brand new zirjoff louis 15 , 17 , 22 okay , ryan , here it is thank you now admitted , this is Mike's episode , by the way .

Ryan

He was like I really want to smell that new Zergy .

Myke

Yeah , I was . Like you know . We haven't done a Zergy off in I don't know three

John Paul Gaultier Elixir Absolu

Myke

weeks . Yeah , might as well do another one , right .

Ryan

And you know I was like going with the flow . But then when I was doing a little research you know my in-depth two and a half minute research before the show , I was looking at the notes for this and one of the top notes is champagne . So my question to you and to myself do we think this is going to be a little bubbly , a little pop in the top open ?

Myke

Oh , a little cork soaker yeah .

Ryan

Is this going to be a cork soaker ? I don't know . All right , let's see .

Myke

I mean , I have smelled this before .

Ryan

Never mind , I have soaked a cork before .

Myke

Oh my , oh my , come on come on , I gotta give it to old zirgy what are you whiffing ?

Ryan

well , first off , I do not get vodka and a little bit of berry , something that would sound like it would kind of imply it's a little harsh burn , right , wouldn't you think that ?

Myke

Well , I could see like a vodka tonic vibe that I can get Gin and tonic , that's sort of bright , effervescent alcoholic .

Ryan

It smells really good , real good .

Myke

I was a whiny little bitch in Italy . Oh , in Italy , yeah , yeah .

Ryan

Over what ? What were you , a whiny little bitch about ?

Myke

Well , I'm going to say , on average , joe called me out on this . I got to make sure he listens to this episode so he knows I'm with the guys and we've had a couple of parties up until this one , and the Surge Off was by far the wildest , most entertaining party . Yeah , and we're drinking champagne . Up until a certain time . They don't have the mixed cocktails , and what Zerjoff would do at their parties which is really cool is that they would do drinks inspired by fragrances that they were releasing . It's really fun . They're very well thought out and it is like a very immersive experience . But for the first I don't know hour and a half , two hours , it's just a champagne bar and I was telling the guys we had been to a couple of parties where it was strictly champagne and I'm not a guy who can just drink champagne after champagne , after champagne . Yeah , like , give me one or two glasses and then I'm kind of done with it . Yeah , champagne , like give me one or two glasses and then I'm kind of done with it . Yeah , you know .

Myke

And so the joke was I would just go like guys , I'm just so bored of drinking champagne , you know , like this is bougie , like oh , couldn't be bothered to drink another champagne guys . Oh , you know we're all joking about it because like when in your life are you ever that spoiled ? So I literally told the guys I was like I've had two or three glasses of champagne . I was just like I got to be done until the other drinks come out . I just can't drink a lot of it . And we're waiting around and then I walk over and I see on average Joe and I go hey man , how you doing ? He goes , I'm doing amazing . I'm at this badass Zerjoff party . I'm surrounded by amazing people . I'm drinking Zerjoff Rose , which they only bring out for very special occasions . This is very special champagne that they make . And he's going on and on and in that moment I felt a twinge of guilt of going . Why can't I just appreciate this moment ?

Ryan

Were you doing the Larry David 15-minute window view ?

Myke

I think so , you think so . Yeah , just on the alcoholic beverages yeah , okay , because it's like I don't sip anything . I don't slowly , you know , masticate anything . I'm like I put it down . Yeah , you masticate very vigorously . I have very vigorously mastication , and the same with hydration . I can't help it If I have something in my hand , it's like I need to it's got to go in your mouth , yeah , for sure .

Myke

Something like and at one point I've got both hands full . I'm like I got to make sure both these go in my mouth very quickly , you know , yeah um .

Myke

One you gotta masticate , one you gotta swallow yeah , exactly yeah , there's just a lot going on . Yeah , you know how these parties get . Yeah , so I drink the drinks really fast , just because , again , like I'll , if I have it in my hand I'm gonna drink it . I can't , for whatever reason , I lack the throttle to like just be slowly . You know , that's why I can't really get into wine . I'm just like I can't go like appreciate it , opening up and whatever . You know I'm like done so . I went through a couple , but I didn't take the time to really appreciate it . And then , whenever I talked to joe , I was like you know , this guy is like he's savoring it , he's taking it in , he's really enjoying it . Yeah , and I'm just going , if I'm gonna pound drinks , they gotta be like not champagne . You know , I'm the same way with beer , though I can't just sit there and pound beers all night . Yeah , like , give me something harder , really , yeah .

Ryan

Yeah , I guess I kind of get that . It's weird that me and you are just not big drinkers really , or smokers , tokers Right .

Introducing Xerjoff Louis XV 1722

Myke

Midnight jokers , Jokers yeah .

Ryan

Yeah , we're just . You put a fucking cake in front of us though . Yeah , pounding it . Yeah , we are taking it to pound town .

Myke

We're all caked up . Now going back to this fragrance here yeah let it to you know , do its own mastication there's something I really like about this .

Ryan

I'm going to describe kind of some notes that I feel like I I'm going to try something here . Okay , swear to god , the only note , the first note that I saw what too I like champagne and plum was the top note , and the first note that I saw , too I'll lie , champagne and plum was the top note and I didn't look at any of the other notes , because when I saw champagne I go , oh man , this might be a little bubbly , right , right , which I don't really get that bubbly fizzy champagne , Really yeah .

Ryan

I do Really Okay . On the skin you don't Not really , but it's not a bad thing . I'm just like what I'm smelling does smell good , but I kind of get like this almost citrusy I would almost say lime , maybe some rosemary type thing . But also with what do you call it ? I do kind of get boozy . I wouldn't say like rum , but like an alcoholic base type thing , kind of like the gin and tonic thing I was about to say I'm getting very gin and tonic on it .

Ryan

But it's so smooth , Like it's really smooth . It's like so smooth that that's why I can't buy into my brain of it being like fizzy kind of .

Myke

Oh okay , it's so blended well , yeah , this just has that . You're right , it does have a citrus sort of quality to it . To me it does kind of have that bubbly sort of thing . That's why I really feel like it does have like a gin and tonic sort of vibe and I do love those dude . It's been a minute since I've had a gin and tonic dude . I feel like if I bumped into joe and I'd been drinking gin and tonics all night , I've been like I'm great I'm surrounded by great people .

Ryan

I'm drinking gin and tonics all night let me do read the notes really quick , let's see if I got anywhere close . There's champagne , grapefruit , plum , saffron , that's all . Top Middle notes are hazelnut , coffee , rose , lavender and cocoa or cocoa . Base notes are sandalwood , white musk , cashmere , incense and leather . I honestly , other than pretty much the grapefruit and champagne , I don't get anything else .

Myke

And to me it's like champagne , lime , rosemary . I can get some of the savoriness that kind of reminds me of the saffron . Really , I can kind of get that a little bit . Yeah , man , it is so good , though I'm going to be real with you . So at this party , the first thing they did , they announced that they were doing two collaborative fragrances with Duran Duran , which is cool . A couple of guys came out for that Before that . They were talking about 2024 releases and they went around and sprayed them and passed out testers and everybody kind of smelled them . One was Purple , lachinto , one was this one . There were a few more that's in this discovery set , and I think it's because I was drinking champagne at the time . Why am I like so sour when it comes to champagne ? But I was drinking champagne at the time . That one went around that I just quickly sniffed it and was kind of turned off by it Really , but now I'm really , really enjoying it .

Ryan

So this one , you did get a sneak peek .

Myke

Yes , yeah , at their release party , gotcha , which again was so fun , we had a great time . I am being kind of whiny about the whole champagne thing . It really is a fantastic once-in-a-lifetime thing . I think we just were kind of in this mode of like . We were just having fun being goofy , luscious , you know , and I felt bad because I was kind of in this mode of like , we were just having fun being goofy , luscious , you know , and I felt bad because I was walking around and I just would not have a drink in my hand because I'm like I don't want to drink a shitload of champagne . Yeah , I feel like this episode's quickly becoming Mike's hatred to champagne episode , which is just so weird and boring . Isn't that weird ? That's a weird , boring episode we don't want that .

Myke

But for whatever reason , I mean we can talk about your mastication skills . Well , they did have some interesting food there as well . They had little sliders , but then they also had spoons with weird seafood things on them and stuff .

Ryan

Okay , let me ask this because I kind of this vibe with , like some weddings we've worked in the past or some type of big event . I'm always leery of big event food because I always feel like it always comes out in small proportions one , two . It's always like never hot . It's always like , you know , the catering company has been there all day and they've got , like you know , little bunsen burners underneath fucking aluminum things and yeah , like the little alcohol type cans that yeah , and it's like barely like warm food .

Myke

It's always gross to me yeah , and they have like the tartar type stuff which is like you don't know if you're gonna be able to trust that or not . Yeah , I mean , was the food like that ? There was just like it was nice . Everything about this party was top notch . It was really a great time . There were a few really fun ones . I would say the most fun spectacle type night was Zerjoff's party , gotcha . They really put on quite a show . There was a lot of stuff to see . The mixed drinks based on the fragrances were badass . This year they were so good . Yeah , that's where I really got to hang out with Anthony Curly Scents guy , yeah , and we got to chatting and then we all went over to the Nishane party and then it was like we became BFFs all of us . Oh man , but at that party there was just Did you ever mention me to all these new people ? I try not to as much as possible .

Myke

Just making sure they're like , oh , you do the podcast and I'll be like , yeah , I do the podcast and they'll go , just you and I'll go . Yeah , I can't think of anybody else that's like regular . And then I'll go like sometimes I'll go oh , you know what ? Steve actually shows up occasionally , I think .

Ryan

Uh , chris has been on two or three , but yeah , other than that it's , it's pretty much just me , you know um you know it's gonna have one day I'm gonna somehow make some type of event and somehow , some way , I'm gonna be like a legend among people . You think , oh yeah , like that guy was fucking amazing , he did remember that he did .

Myke

I just don't see that happening in a social setting . In a social setting , I just don't see that happening If you get them sequestered off by themselves maybe .

Ryan

Bringing them in for questioning or something .

Myke

Yeah , pretty much . That's what it would feel like Fucking interrogate these people . I'd be like , if you want to meet ryan , he's actually over in the corner over there under the spotlight , so if you'll just go , he's under the heating lamps right now hey , quickly , let me hit you with the price and popularity .

Ryan

On this price , 275 euros for 50 ml . Oh shit , a little pricey , that is pricey . However , you can find some gray market areas fragrance net , I think they're around 120 something . 120 ? I think so .

Myke

126 or something . Wow , man , now we would never encourage somebody to do that , but that does sound more affordable . But that does sound more affordable .

Ryan

It does sound more affordable and the popularity is a 4.25 out of 5 .

Myke

Of course I would agree with that . As much as I don't like champagne , this champagne fragrance is really tumbling my rocks .

Ryan

I'll say this and then I need you to tell me who you think's wearing this , but probably since . Was it Renaissance that we smelled back in the day ? Okay , yeah , what's the one we smelled in the back room over there ? It was either Renaissance or Neo , one of the two or maybe both , but pretty much since those two , this is the only Zerjoff that's really stood out like . Blown my mind for real , really . Yeah , I'm not making a a big to do about this episode , because I've just been listening to you rambling on about I feel bad and hate fucking wine .

Myke

No , I said champagne .

Ryan

There's a difference he was masticating , but uh franks and beans but this has been a surprisingly really good fragrance .

Myke

Man , I have to say I typically really enjoy Zerjoff fragrances . I can't think of one that really put me off . You know what I ?

Ryan

actually stumbled back . I don't know if it was a main episode or a patron episode . We did an episode on Hiyot or whatever . That is Not Giyot , don't get it . Don't get it , uh , confused , but he ought . Or hi-yot , whatever the fuck .

Myke

Uh-huh , that fragrance , yeah , mind-blowing

Mike's Champagne Confession

Myke

good , yes , that was a main episode , so you could you're able to find that man . That was after year one , so that's three years ago .

Ryan

That was no way that's three years ago , yeah it was after the first year of assance I'm literally going to look on spotify and prove that you're a goddamn liar . There's no way three years . You think that's been three years since we've smelled at least two I can believe two , maybe .

Myke

Yeah , it'd have to be two if it was close to yeah , because the first first year was around april , so it would have been two years ago this month , yeah it was actually april 10th . Yeah , there you go of 2023 so that must have been one of , if not the first episode we did after I came back .

Ryan

Good lord , yeah and it came that little bitty like yeah , it was just plain oil .

Myke

It was not like an atomized thing . So , saying all of that , as far as zirjoff goes , now there are some fragrances that I go . This is not for me , like herbapura , yeah , but I do enjoy it on other people . One thing that zirjoff does there's power behind the fragrances . I've never once been like man . A Zerjoff doesn't really last long .

Ryan

Yeah , it does . This one's doing that kind of like . I always say this but like Pier 1 , like wicker furniture , kind of vintage smell thing to me , I love it . I'm not saying it's a bad thing , I love it .

Myke

I wonder why your nose goes there . I don't really pick that up there .

Ryan

I don't really pick that up , I don't know . I just I just think about all the wicker furniture that I would like walk by when I was a kid , at pure one . But who is wearing this though ? Who , in your mind , would you calculate , might possibly be wearing this while they masticate ?

Myke

well , they have to be into fragrances , because this is pretty niche okay . You think this is yes . You don't think this is pretty niche Okay ?

Ryan

You think this is yes , you don't think this is a pretty , I guess , mass appealing , no , no , no .

Myke

I think it's mass appealing as a fragrance , but I mean as far as the actual fragrance goes . To know about Zerjoff , you got to be at least getting into fragrances quite a bit . You're going to have to go to Neiman's instead of Dillard's , yeah . You're going to have to be searching around for something special , yeah . So you got to get past your creeds and past your MFKs . You're not hanging out in Drug Emporium , nope . So then , once you get into Zerjoff's , then you've also got to get into specialty fragrances based on champagne . That's a very specific person .

Ryan

That is pretty specific . So I think you really have to be into fragrances that being said , yeah , do you feel like this is unisex ? Do you feel like masculine leaning ?

Myke

I do feel like there's more masculine , but that would not scare me away from smelling on a beautiful lady yeah , I'm saying I mean it is listed as unisex of course .

Ryan

Yeah , but I do agree it is kind of leaning more masculine . But you would not be offended if a woman was wearing this . No , I'd probably be like hey , yeah , want to watch me masticate .

Myke

Yeah , that's ryan's favorite word today . He said it more times than me . It does smell . I mean , this is a badass fragrance . I think it's a little more on the mature side . I think it's gonna be 25 and up . At least it's been a fresh thing since you said that , I don't think it's gonna be something that the youngins I just don't see many tiktok influencers wearing this thing , but I could see somebody like steve wearing it . Oh , but I could see somebody like Steve wearing it , oh , yeah .

Ryan

Yeah , I could see Steve . God damn dude , I don't know . This opening is fucking gnarly . It is good .

Myke

Yeah , it's really , really nice . This has to be one of my favorite Zerjoffs I've ever smelled .

Ryan

That's what I'm saying . I haven't been making a big deal about it , but maybe it's like when you have a good , you know , when you have a good meal , you just kind of shut up .

Myke

Nobody's not talking , yeah , nobody's talking right .

Ryan

That's kind of how I feel about this .

Myke

Nobody's not talking Whatever . No , I said that that's a double negative . What a fucking idiot , what a goddamn moron .

Ryan

Good Lord , what is wrong with my brain ? You didn't have your nicotine yet , have you ?

Myke

No , I have had it . You did . When did you chew it ? I threw it in on the way back from lunch .

Ryan

Really . Oh yeah , he got wings , just so you guys know .

Myke

You feel like champagnes and chicken wings go together . Really ? No , not at all .

Ryan

But you know I'm serious . This is seriously pretty elevated and nice . It's very elegant , very pretty .

Myke

Speaking of vodka and tonic , by the way , and hot wings , we go to this restaurant . The other day have I told this story ? Yet I always get a carbonated water with lime , club soda , whatever you want to call it , mm-hmm . And then a person who's not our server comes over and says you got the carbonated water right , oh , you did not tell this story .

Ryan

Yes , sorry , Go on .

Myke

And so I was like , yeah ,

Analyzing Louis XV 1722 Notes

Myke

and he goes here's a refill for you . And he looked at you real weird , like that Kind of weird . And he hands me a glass that doesn't have any ice in it , it's just it's full to the brim and it's like what would you say ? It's like a 32 ounce cup , yeah . And so I'm like , okay , and I have my pretty much all the way drunk carbonated water in my cup . So then I just dump the rest of it on there and I start drinking it . And the first thing I say is , oh shit , he gave me sprite by accident , which has happened in the past . I'll drink a little bit more . And I'm like huh .

Myke

So I hand ryan the , the fill-up glass that he gave me , that still had , you know , like a tiny bit left , and I go taste this . This tastes like it has alcohol in it . And you drink and you go , that has alcohol in it . And I've already , and you go , that has alcohol in it and I've already been like slurping down on this thing . Oh yeah , yeah , you know I do . I already told you I'm like , you know , I pound them back . So I'm like , huh , well , okay , yeah , when in Rome ? So I was like whatever , so I drink it . Yeah , when in Rome , right ? So I was like whatever , so I drink it . And then our normal server comes over at the end of the thing and she's giving us the tickets and she goes did somebody happen to give you a glass full of vodka earlier ? And I was like yeah , pretty sure . She's . Like I'm so sorry , that was not meant to go to this table and I was like thank you .

Ryan

Do you think it was something nefarious that we were kind of actually pulled into , or do you think just somebody ordered like , yeah , give me a double shot of vodka and you know ?

Myke

that ? Yeah , I don't know , because it was in like a styrofoam to go cup full . Yeah , nothing in it , no ice or anything . Normally if you get like one of those type of drinks , it's gonna have like some ice in it . It's got got a little garnish or something , maybe like a lime wedge or something I think they were doing something a little under .

Myke

Maybe they were trying to hook up one of the people that comes in regularly and the guy who brought it to me is kind of new , yeah , and you know there's a lot of bald guys . So she was probably like , hey , you know , go give this bald guy the yeah , like it's .

Myke

Like it's a goddamn epidemic I mean , nearly 50 of men will experience some balding . Really , oh yeah , damn , it's a hard world out there . But yeah , afterwards I was like riding back with you after lunch . I was like man , I may start drinking at lunch . I feel pretty great .

Ryan

Hey , random question Is there anything linked to having , I guess , either testosterone at an early age or so much testosterone at an early age to where it does lead to be involved ? Oh for sure , yeah , because I feel like I'm not trying to take shots , but I feel like when I was growing up , I remember a couple of guys in high school we're talking full-on grown man , 40-year-old beards , yeah and even then they were kind of getting a little pepper hair and I was like God damn it , you're in high school , getting like that . And then the ball .

Myke

Oh yeah , I've seen guys that are like , seriously , I still have more hair than they had . Crazy , and it's like , yeah , from what I understand as being a bald man , the more testosterone . This is one cause of it . There are many , but the main one is either your testosterone is too high , your body converts testosterone or the estrogen production of it to DHT . Dht is what causes balding . So the higher you have of the correlating to the more DHT you have which makes you go bald . There's either that , but then there's also head shape , because blood flow and circulation has an effect too . So certain people with certain shaped heads will experience balding more than others . It's part of the reason why ladies have less balding than men is because you notice like the shape of their head is quite a bit different .

Ryan

so I hear I'm not an expert , obviously , as one who just has a bald head doesn't mean that I know everything about balding you know , I know this is gonna be random and then I'll get into the skibbets , whatever , but you know we should really talk about that thing , okay , in a future episode that you had me record . I know that sounds really bad , but no oh , yes , yes , yes , that .

Ryan

Thing yeah , because that was originally . You were like we should talk about this on the podcast . I do agree . Yes , we shall . So I think we will .

Myke

That is right , we will , we'll talk about a thing that I recorded yeah skip it , sample it or buy it . What are you gonna do , ryan ?

Ryan

it is really good . Guys . I've been saying this a lot lately polite skip , it's like . This is my way of saying , like I really love this , but I wouldn't buy it because I seriously just thinking about Hyatt , whatever the fuck I really think that , to me , is the best Zerjoff fragrance I've ever smelled . Okay , and if I was going to buy a Zerjoff , that would

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Ryan

have to be my first one , so that's why . But , that being said , if I had that , this would probably be . I mean , this is definitely a hard sample , but this could be a buy , but for right now , polite skip , it is seriously good .

Myke

You're not even going to sample . Huh , Polite skip .

Ryan

I think it's because I honestly want to buy it , but I wouldn't make it my first buy .

Myke

Hmm , I would just say , you know , if Serge off having a listen to this or anything , hey Jersey , I love a bottle of this .

Ryan

You're not going to get a bottle no , no , I'm not .

Myke

I'm not , although I do wish that . And if we had received this instead of purple agento , I would have had a very hard time giving it to a patreon yeah , I'm with you on that , for sure , because I would want to keep it . I think to me , if you either see a sudden influx of monetary endowment yeah , I could see doing it that way or if you were to now , I would never recommend going to one of these dirty , scheming gray markets and buying it for a lower price . I would not do that .

Ryan

That's not right .

Myke

But if you're like me , that might be the only way you could afford it , but I would never , ever , never , do something like that or encourage you to do something like that if you put a springfield hellcat pro uh-huh to my freaking head and you look down that , you fucking sites .

Ryan

Yeah , the Tritium U site yeah . And you asked me if I'd buy , I would seriously buy this . I would too . It is really good . It's a polite skip .

Myke

I want the other stuff Just based on price right , Because you're pushing nearly 300 bones for a 50 mil .

Ryan

No , honestly , my reasoning is seriously going my first Zer jersey off would have to be the other one , the high . Oh yeah , yeah , but if I had that , it's this man . I'm grabbing this . This smells so good and , by the way , I feel like this is . We never mentioned this in an episode , but this is right up your freaking alley yeah , I'm obsessed with it it's kind of subtle , you know it's not too crazy .

Myke

Yeah , I'm trying to say I fucking love this thing . Yeah , and mean , again , we don't have the pool . I know there are some influencers out there that somehow get their hands on big juicy bottles and , who knows , they probably bought it with their own money . So it's an unbiased review . Yeah , it could be . You know how that works . You buy something and if you buy it with your own money , then you can't be biased . How that works . You buy something and if you buy it with your own money , then you can't be biased . But if there was a way to get a free bottle of this , I'd be begging for it . You'd be on your hands and knees . I'd go . What do we got to do ? What do I need to say ? Tell me what you want me to say . Zerjoff , I'll say it . Could I trade my integrity for a bottle of this ? I might do it .

Ryan

We were talking about integrity trading this morning over coffee . It's true Mike was having his . I guess I would call it his annual , I don't know . Looking at the fragrance , world meltdown .

Myke

Yeah , I felt like I was staring down the barrel of a Springfield Hellcat Pro Ryan With the tritium sights .

Ryan

Are you trying to insinuate anything ? Let's keep bringing this up .

Myke

No , no , no , which actually it made us think about doing a Fragrance Philosophy episode with our Fireside Chat friends .

Ryan

Yeah , on the struggle of loving fragrances but not loving the fragrance industry yeah , and the and that kind of sounds ominous , like the fragrance industry as a whole is bad . That's not correct . No , there's .

Myke

So there's a lot of good in there I think to the vast majority of just everyday people it's not as big of a concern , but I think it . Once you get deep enough into fragrances that you're listening to a fucking podcast about it , you're probably in the same boat as we are , yeah . And then you do have to start figuring out what you're going to do with your money and who , what brands you're going to align with and what content creators are going to align with and what avenues you're going to take . That sort of a thing Do you get to where you go ? I just those dirty gray market people start to feel a little weird about it .

Ryan

Well , guys , we're not holding a Springfield Hellcat pro to your head , but I will tell you you should absolutely check out the patreon .

Ryan

I'm going to pitch it one last time because I'm proud of it and I'm proud of the people in it and I absolutely stand by that statement . Yeah , we have some fucking incredible people in there . So much so I mean , there's been people that I've seriously have . I'm gonna say this it's bad on us . Okay , look , there's a million things going on . We have our own lives outside of this .

Ryan

We also try to I mean , they're not much , but they're ours but we try to do good by the patron over everything . And there's still some that slip through the cracks and then we notice it . We'll see them . I'm not going to say a specific name , but it's like , or specific names in this case , but we've had two recently One we never reached out to when they became a patron . We always try to go hey , thank you for joining the patron , and how'd you find us ? And try to have some small chat to one where it's like we had good conversation but we hadn't talked to them in a year and yet they're still here , they're still supportive and they're contributing to our community , to our Fireside Chats , and I just have to seriously commend everybody , everybody , and I mean that wholeheartedly . You got to come in there check it out . It's fucking badass man .

Myke

Yeah , I actually had one guy who followed me on my personal Instagram and I followed him back and then he was like whoa , I didn't expect you to follow me back . And I was like you're a patron , you're basically my family . Yeah , of course I got to know what you're up to , you know ? Yeah , we keep them updated on all of our bills .

Ryan

They know if mom and dad are not going to be able to keep this thing together or not ?

Myke

Yeah , for sure .

Ryan

Hey , we love you guys . Thank you for coming on the show and until next time , spray it .