Proven Not Perfect
Proven Not Perfect
Murder Mystery Novelist Stacy E. Harmon on the Power of Pivots and Birthing a Book✨
As the sun sets on the eve of Mother's Day, I am overtaken by gratitude for my own Mom and her unwavering strength. I dedicated this podcast to my Mother and all Mothers, and their incredible influence on so many lives.
Adding to this vibe of appreciation is the opportunity to celebrate my long time friend, Author, Stacey E. Harmon, whose debut murder mystery "Fire Starter" is her first of a series of murder mystery stories.
Stacey and I talk about her decision to write this first book during a tough time in her professional career. Stacey shares openly her lessons learned and we unpack key takeaways for anyone who has to navigate this in their own life.
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Hey, proven Not Perfect. This is Chantrapal, your host. I am so glad that you're here with me today. This is a very special day because it's the eve of the day that we celebrate those mommies, those mamas, those mothers, those grandmothers, those aunties, those caretakers in our world. I hope that if you are not with yours, that you are full of joy in your heart for the memory of those in your life, and if you are just logistically far away, I hope that you're sending all the love that you can.
Speaker 1:I know that I'm doing that in my own way with my beautiful mother, who has set a pace and a tone. I actually start to think about what are the things that really stand out for me about my mom, and I recently asked myself what were the three words, and one word is grace. I think that's the first word for my mom grace. When you are in her presence, you just feel such a gracious, graceful spirit you really do. She makes you feel warm and at home and almost hugged, quite frankly. The next word that I would use for my mom is inspired. My mom, I believe from a little girl, has had the ability to see past circumstance and to allow herself to not only be driven for more, but probably to vision it for herself and to make it happen, which is the third word that I see from my mom, and that's courage. She's so courageous. She lost her mom as an adolescent, one of seven kids, and she was loved by her life. To still be so committed to her dreams, to be so committed to her family, to be a lioness, when called to be so, to protect us oh, my God, I give it to my mom. So, yeah, my three words for my mom are grace, inspired and courageous, which is appropriate as we think about proven, not perfect, and the seven truths and you know there's seven of them. Courage is one of them, and I think that one is the one that underpins the conversation that I'm going to share with you today. It takes courage, y'all, and we're going to talk about it in the podcast. It takes courage to do something bold and courageous that exposes your inner thoughts to others.
Speaker 1:And in this podcast, we're talking to an author who has not only birthed the book, written the book, published the book, but she's launching the book right now as you listen as I speak, and it is a good one, y'all. It's a murder mystery, fiction book, and I'm so excited that this is only the beginning. It's just number one and there's a series that's being worked on right now. The name of the book is Firestarter. The name of the author is my dear old friend, stacey E Harmon.
Speaker 1:Okay, let's be clear. She's not old. She is just one of those treasures in my life for so many years. And you and that doesn't mean that you have to talk all the time I don't know how you guys explore relationships, but I am definitely one that goes for quality over quantity. When we touch base, do we acknowledge that we've both grown and changed? Yes. When we touch base, do we celebrate the person that they've become? Yes. And when we touch base, do we think fondly of the memories of the journey that we shared at some point in becoming who we are? Yes. So that's how I think about quality over quantity.
Speaker 1:I don't know how do you think about it? All right Enough on that one. This is the podcast with Stacey E Harmon, author, corporate executive lady, who has a story to share, not only about becoming an author, but about dealing with those tough times in your personal and professional journey when a pivot is necessary. How do you survive? How do you thrive? Here we go Proven not perfect. Hi Stacey, hi Chandra, how are you? I'm doing good. I'm so excited about this podcast conversation. This is absolutely one that I've been looking forward to, you know, as my home girl. Right, we go way, way back.
Speaker 1:And it really warms my heart when I can do podcasts with people that I have literally had in my life for gosh, more than probably 40 years. I don't know something a lot, A long time. Maybe I shouldn't have said that, Stacey, because some people are sitting there, like you know, those haters that sit on the curb and they're like, yeah, uh-huh. Okay, she didn't tell me how old she was, but I figured it out Exactly Old enough, Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter because you and I both have some beautiful moms and I think that we give them a whole lot of praise for, you know, teaching us healthy habits and it starts with the inside right. It starts with the inside.
Speaker 1:Your mom is absolutely beautiful, and I know it starts with the inside, and I feel the same about mine. So, in light of Mother's Day weekend, I feel like we couldn't go any further than starting there.
Speaker 2:So in light of Mother's Day weekend, I feel like we couldn't go any further than starting there. Absolutely I agree, and you're right Both of our moms are beautiful inside and out.
Speaker 1:Beautiful souls, beautiful moms and so glad to have both of them in our lives. Amen, amen. All right. So today is about you. Actually, this whole season is kind of about you, is kind of about you, given this exciting venture that you're doing having authored your first novel, fiction novel.
Speaker 1:This is so epic and major so I need to rattle off the statistics that I took a look at just to frame for me how big this is. Right. So 81% of people say that they would like to write a book. Right, 97% actually start a book and only 3% finish the book. That was crazy to me when I got my mind around that. I mean, had you ever thought about the odds? Or was this? So not about that? This was about a story to tell and the time to do it.
Speaker 2:This was really about telling the story, getting that story out. That creativity was bubbling up in me and had to be told. I couldn't hold it back and I didn't even know and I'm so glad I didn't know the odds, because that would have probably been a deterrent no, it wouldn't. But those odds are just insane. And you know it's funny, I even I spoke with a friend last week and in fact he said something similar in terms of he'd always wanted to write a book and he said you know, he knew lots of people that want to write books, that started and then just never, never came through. So that's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1:So when you circle back and you think about because I think actually exposing your thoughts is a courageous act, posing your thoughts is a courageous act and so you know, with Proven, not Perfect, I really do pull from those seven truths as I get my inspiration for who I want to talk to and how I want to host a conversation. And this topic, really, the inspiration for the whole thing, is not only inspiration but it's courage. Right, and I started to unpack that for myself and I'd love to get your reaction to this. Because when I think of writing a book being courageous, what hits me is you are sharing what's in your mind out loud for people to see, mind out loud for people to see, for people to know. There's no changing it, there's no hiding it. So much of what we do is we manage how we show up and we control what comes out right. So folks don't always know what we're thinking, but when you take it out and put it in paper, and you publish it.
Speaker 2:It's out there, but then also all of these negative things potentially and it really you're really making yourself, like I said, vulnerable because you're willing to expose all those things that you are crafting and letting someone else take a look at it and make a decision about it, and that part is difficult.
Speaker 1:Stacey, I think that when you say that, the math of the people that want to do it and actually start it and actually finish actually makes sense, yeah, so where'd the courage come from?
Speaker 2:Well, I tell you, it's quite interesting. I've been in the insurance industry for literally 33 years, so I started when I was 10, of course, right, of course you did, of course, and you know what, and with a career for decades. You know there are lots of highs, lots of great things, lots of goodness, and then, of course, there are lows, like with any career relationship. All those things.
Speaker 2:And yeah, I've been so fortunate in my career and, and really at the point where I was a department head and being groomed for executive leadership, one day came the meeting where there was going to be a reorganization within claims and that's the part of insurance I'm in and which was a little surprising not that we had not had reorganizations before, but claims is such an integral part of every insurance company. Yes, and it came very quickly.
Speaker 1:And so tell us, tell folks, what claims is, because for some people they're really kind of even learn a little bit about insurance as they hear you and as they read the book too. What's the claims part?
Speaker 2:So with claims you have what we call the fire side and the auto side and auto. Most people are probably familiar with auto claims. If you have an accident right, unfortunately we do Then you would work with an auto adjuster, probably a body shop, and either get that car replaced, get that car fixed, and that's part of the easier side of claims, not that any of it is truly easy. The more complex side is where I am with what we call fire claims, where it could be homeowners claims, where you have a home, fire, water loss, theft, things of that nature, and it could be the home, could be business. It could be just a wide varying of claims. But it's the fire side as we call it in operations Got it.
Speaker 1:So that's the side that I would imagine requires a lot of investigation and forensics and, quite frankly, it sounds kind of exciting.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. Some people think insurance is boring, but actually it's really not. Yeah, you really got to put your thinking cap on. You're really a trained investigator when you worked in claims and handling claims.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So tell us. So. You're in, you're in insurance, you're being groomed for executive leadership. You find out that they're going to do a reorganization. Are you, I'm sure, at this point, probably being as successful as you've been and probably having, you know, the support that you must have had to be so successful for so long? Were you kind?
Speaker 2:of like okay, this will happen. But you know, two of my direct reports, who were in mid management, um were um let go and I was level reduced and, uh, several people were in the same position. Uh, and it was, it was a shock, yeah, significant shock. Exactly, I was level reduced and it was. It was a bit of a surprise, a bit of a shocker and, frankly, uh, it hurt it. It was uh personal for me and, in fact, when that happened, I sort of went through, uh, the stages of grief. Frankly, um, because it was, it was a a huge blow.
Speaker 2:Yes and uh, and I had colleagues of mine, mine who were in similar situations and they left across the country. They left, and I'm in the Atlanta area and there are lots of organizations in Atlanta, lots of different career opportunities, and I sincerely thought about leaving. And it was my husband who said you know what, if you want to leave at some point, absolutely, but how about we give it some time. Don't leave me because you're emotional, don't leave because you're upset. Give it some time and stay with the organization. And how about you give it maybe a year, which I didn't think I could, but that's what he recommended.
Speaker 2:And so I said, ok, I'll give it some time. And he was right, because what happened was, once I was level reduced and so took on a different role and became really fully engaged in that position. It allowed me to take a step back and it allowed me to say you know what? I'm certainly gonna give it my all and give 110% to my career, but I'm also gonna give 110% to me. Wow. And yeah, that's what I decided to do.
Speaker 1:At that point I think there's so much that you just said. You know, I think of this new generation where for them they bring a whole different mindset into the workplace, where almost from the start, they're focused on their corporate career and they're cultivating their passion, which may or may not coincide with that right, whereas generationally that wasn't a thing for Gen X right. For Gen X we really came off that baby boomer approach and we actually thought that we had the option of staying in one place for the rest of our career if we chose to do it for the rest of our career, if we chose to do it right. Mentors were formal relationships, sponsorship was absolutely an ingrained thing and it was almost like this chain, this chain of support, that you sort of ascended. So I can definitely appreciate where, if you're one of the ones, unlike me, that actually stayed loyal to one brand for all those years, that would be a blow.
Speaker 1:And I love that you shared the part of grieving, because I think that too often we put ourselves in this really unfair position where we believe that grief is only tied to death. Right, and maybe it is tied to death, but that death doesn't always have to be a human soul, right, it can be death of dream, it can be death of opportunity, it could be death of so many things and I love that you framed it of so many things and I love that you framed it and I also love that you partnered well, because your partner, you know, probably when you didn't have the capacity to know what the options really were, outside of just being pissed off, quite frankly, and moving on, he gave you that coaching to say, stay still, at least just for a little bit of time. I love all of that, all of that. And then the pivot, and then the pivot. So okay, so now you're, you're there. This has happened.
Speaker 1:You're in this for a year. You're reframing how you think about it and where does a book come from?
Speaker 2:Well, when I and you're right, I did the pivot and started focusing more on me. So at that point I decided to get a personal trainer and lost 50 pounds.
Speaker 1:You look beautiful. She always did so, let's just be clear there. But she's hot.
Speaker 2:Thank you, thank you. Well, I decided to get serious right and so I did that. I started taking up tennis and I always I'm an avid reader love to read. I love reading murder mysteries, as my sister and I call it murder, death, kill as my sister and I call it murder, death, kill.
Speaker 2:And in fact, when COVID hit my sister, my niece and I started a small book club and we would meet by Zoom every week and talk about the books we were reading. And here's the funny thing my sister always figured out who the killer was after about 10 pages, and it just drove us crazy. So I decided you know what? I'm reading these books, I love these books, I have a passion for reading, for writing, and I knew that I had something to offer, and so I decided you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm going to write a story and I'm going to pull out all of this that's within me and create something that hasn't been told in the way that I'm thinking and the way that I want it to be told, and so that's what I started writing on, and it took me about two years to pull it out and to pull it together and there'd be times when it just flowed and I'd be typing away and there were times when I thought, oh my goodness, I have no idea what's coming next.
Speaker 1:So is it like that? So I often wonder, because I love mysteries. The last series that I read was Pamela Thomas King, the Blue Blood Mysteries. She was a GE executive, beautiful, beautiful woman, and just a baddie in business, but man, she wrote these amazing mysteries. That really got me thinking and I often wonder. So when you're pulling this brilliance out, are you yourself sort of letting the characters position themselves and tell you where they're going? How does tell me the mind of a murder, kill mystery person who I thought I knew? And, oh my God, after all these years, I'm not sure. On the girl's trip, I'm keeping the lights on.
Speaker 2:Don't worry, it's all fiction. You know you're on to something there, because I did. I let the characters develop, I create the characters, and it wasn't until several chapters in that the killer revealed himself to me. I did not know who the killer was until that is so epic.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so they had to reveal themselves, and I think that's why, in talking to people who are reading my book, uh fire starter, that they tell me you know what. There's so many twists and turns. I had no idea, ultimately, who it was until the time that that person was revealed.
Speaker 1:Wow, oh my gosh. So so I am. This is a good time for the commercial break. So, firestarter, you have got to order this book by Stacey E Harmon. The illustration is absolutely beautiful. The book is an easy, engaging read. You can see where I'm at with all the things.
Speaker 1:I have not gotten nearly as far, but that's what Mother's Day weekend is for and I'm definitely looking forward to going. It's got me pulled in, I think. For me, me the brilliance to take your career as a leader in this industry insurance fire and allow a story to reveal itself from that is absolutely brilliant. Of course, that's brilliant creatively, and we'll talk about that more, but it's also brilliant professionally because if we double click and remember here, it is essentially for a lot of people the rug was taken from underneath you as far as your vision of where your feet would be and how they would be and what, how they would flourish. Right, and you stayed and you allowed yourself to, I'm sure, do a great job where you are and start to unfold this story. And I bet and I'd love to get your thoughts on this, I bet that in doing so you brought new energy to the place where you were, because you were getting that outlet, I'm guessing you were getting that outlet.
Speaker 2:I just I'm guessing, is that off or no? No, you're, you're absolutely right. It because I was. I was getting to a point where I was engaged at work and doing something different with it, and so relearning some things that I almost unlearned, right, and of course you've got to learn, unlearn and relearn and so always. And so I was at that place but it just I wasn't the. The creativity and all of the things that I was bringing to the table before just weren't there for a while. And and you know what?
Speaker 2:And people talk about work-life balance. I don't believe in work-life balance. I don't think there's really a certain thing. I do believe in work-life balance. I don't think there's really a certain thing. I do believe in work-life integration. And so for me, I had to figure out what was the right work-life integration for me, and so I was able to pull some of all of the knowledge and the learnings that I had with my insurance career and put that into really creative use into this book, because with the book, it is based on a family owning an insurance company and all of these things happening based on that, and so there is a lot of knowledge that I bring in to this book based on my career, and I couldn't have done that if I wasn't re-engaged and really focused in on my career. I wouldn't have been able to do that in the right way.
Speaker 1:You couldn't have done that if you hadn't completely changed your story about the place where you were, even in your journey. Right, like I'm sorry. I hope every mid, late, early career person that's listening to this is really listening to this, because there will be rugs pulled. It will happen. If you choose a career in any organization, and that can be corporate, that can be academic, it can be all things in between medical, anything right, it will happen. Please trust our words.
Speaker 1:The trick is how do you receive what's happening and what story do you put around it? And, like Stacey said, what does integration look like when you make a decision? Right, there's so much there, that's like a whole masterclass that I think maybe you and I should do, because that is brilliant and we need to unpack that. But we also need to unpack this novel. So, all right, so you've got this family and they are talking to you and they are, you know, right, when we start the book and they are talking to you and they are, you know, right, when we start the book, it really pulls us in because you've got you know this one very nervous sister. You've got one dead sister, you've got you know so, and I'm not spoiling anything Like.
Speaker 1:It's like it from the jump. You've got this, you know extended relationship. That's been around for a long time, this extended relationship that's been around for a long time. You've got this call from this other person that we don't quite know who he is yet, but he seems to be on the police force, seems to have some relationship with one of the sisters. It's so much that you're just like, oh my God, you hit us in the beginning with so much character. I'm going to say character curiosity, right, yeah, that's really how I think about it. So you know, I'm really looking forward to continuing to explore those things more. Okay, so when did you know when the character started speaking to you that would be your hero and your villain? When they started speaking to you, when did you know that you would take them to a crescendo and it was over? Or are we going to see a series?
Speaker 2:We are going to see a series. Yes, yes, but I'll say this because, as I mentioned, I love to read. Uh, but what I hate when I read a great story is that there's this cliffhanger and you're just like, no, please don't do that. So this book. You have the answers. Oh, you finished the book. You know what has happened we will know.
Speaker 1:We will know when we get to the end of this I'll be able to like, inhale, exhale, breathe and at least be complete in this moment, okay yes, you will, but it's clear, it's going to be clear to you that there is more to come.
Speaker 2:Okay, oh you have your answers, but then you know, okay, there's more to this story.
Speaker 1:So are you working on? Okay? So here's another author story. All right, a question that a lot of us have, especially with our fiction fictionalist Are you writing while this is sitting with us? I am?
Speaker 2:Inside school? Okay, I am, and so it's. It's interesting because obviously I just published this book, so excited about this book and really just getting it out there in so many ways. And uh, and this is this book is my first baby, this is my baby, yeah, and uh, and I can say that it's funny mother's day. Yeah, I don't have any children. I've got one big baby, my husband, that's it.
Speaker 1:And so this, and a very fit one too. As you know, the apple doesn't fall too far, because Stace's husband is pretty phenomenal and pretty acclaimed himself in things outside of corporate realm as well, I think. What is it? Bodybuilding? Yes, he is. I was gonna say wrestling and I was like I love voice. I don't think he's wrestling, he's bodybuilding and he's won titles right.
Speaker 2:Yes, he's a professional bodybuilder. So as an amateur he was Mr Georgia, he won Mr Florida, he won several contests, and he did that before we married. And then we married he stopped and just stayed in shape and he is retired now. And so when he retired he said you know what? I want to go back to competing, but I want to earn what they call my pro card so I can compete professionally. So he resumed competing in amateur contest, won his pro card. You've got to win certain contests to earn a pro card. He did that and now he is a professional bodybuilder.
Speaker 2:And here's the kicker he is 66 and has competed and won against men who have been 10 to 15 years younger than him.
Speaker 1:Wow, so seriously when we say partner well for executive coaching and mindset, you did because he's been utilizing and I feel like I've done the same honestly, because when you are connected to a professional athlete, I think in any realm the mentality that is just coursing through their DNA is one that processes hurdles like no other brains I know right and they manage pivots and they see past challenges, literally see past them. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:All right, terrell, you got your commercial break. Now back to the scheduled programming.
Speaker 2:That's right, agreed no-transcript you know, I I did think about it and immediately ruled it out. That was way too vulnerable right, exactly, I wasn't ready to go there. I figured, you know what, let me, uh, put something else out that is still vulnerable. Uh, because it's about me, my thoughts, but I wasn't ready to take that leap that may be in the future.
Speaker 1:I wasn't ready to take that leap that may be in the future. Yes, yes, it is. It's a real thing for sure. Wow, okay, so what are your key takeaways in launching this book, when you think about what it takes to do so, what are your key takeaways that you would share with somebody?
Speaker 2:I would say the first thing is and frankly I think about this in life, so I'm going to prescribe it to the book but frankly, and just about everything that's important to you, important to me, important to those who are listening, is that it's not enough to be motivated, because sometimes you're not motivated. Right, you've got to be disciplined, and and I didn't I'm not the the author of those words, I've heard it so many times. My husband feels that way with his professional career You've got to be disciplined and you've got to be committed, because you won't always be motivated to do it. Yes, yes. And so that, for me, that's a big piece that kept me going. You know it may be just right. Commitment and discipline, commitment and discipline, for sure.
Speaker 2:And then I think you've got to ask yourself why am I doing this? What's your why, girl? Yes, what is your why? And that answer is different for all of us. And so you've got to think through what is your why? And if you don't have a why, then maybe this is not the course for you, and that's okay. Right, everybody's not meant to write a book, as you stated, those statistics earlier on. Everybody doesn't do it, it's not for everybody. But think about what is your why? I would say for sure. And then I would say the last thing is you know what? Don't put pressure on yourself. Enjoy the process, enjoy it, go through it, experience it. With me writing this book, it was a lot of fun and it was a lot of hard work, but I absolutely enjoyed writing this and I absolutely enjoyed getting to know these characters better. You know what I will close it with. I'll say this because I harass my mother, my sister. I would feed them three or four chaps at a time. What?
Speaker 1:do you think about this? What do you think about this?
Speaker 2:And so when they finally finished the first draft and it was all said and done, my mother said the best thing that she could have said. I don't even realize she knew how much it impacted me. She said I'm going to miss these people is what she said, and that was just profound. I knew, when she said that, that I was writing the right book. I was on the right track.
Speaker 1:Wow, I can't even say anything to that. I do want to acknowledge that someone's listening to this Stacey and they are themselves considering how to be in that 3% number and they're unpacking some of your guidance, of commitment and dedication. Are there any things that work for you? Because many people are writing around a work schedule? So do you set a timer? Do you set a time of day Like are there any practical tips that someone's like how do I make this vision come to life? Around you know, working, wifing, momming, whatever they're doing. Is there some tip for that that helps?
Speaker 2:us, yeah, I would say. And of course we're all different, right, and we all have different work experiences, family experiences, so it everybody doesn't fall into the same spot. But I think it's important to sit down and say you know what, I am going to dedicate X time, whether it's you're writing three times a week and whether it's at night. You say you know what, I'm going to make sure that I write for an hour, or whether it's the weekend, whatever it is, try to commit to a certain time and forgive yourself if it doesn't work, because life happens, but life happens. But then don't continue to let some of those things get in the way.
Speaker 2:So if life happens and gets in the way this week, okay, fine, you know what, blow it off. And then, okay, fine, you know what, blow it off. And then, but next week you got to power through, next week you got to keep going back until you are able to catch up and continue to write your book or continue to really focus in on your passion, because that story's there, that story's inside, and if you want to tell it, don't let anything pull you out of telling it. And it's okay if it takes you two years, three years, five years. If you've got that passion and that story to tell, then let that story unfold and keep focusing on it.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow. And then the last one I'd ask is regarding the why last one I'd ask is regarding the why.
Speaker 2:What's your why? You know for me. The why sort of comes back to the courage piece, and with what I went through professionally, I had to recognize that it was time to focus on myself. And I had determined what was it that was going to make me whole and I recognized I needed to pull this out. I needed this for me, I need to do this for me and that's why I did it Okay.
Speaker 1:So I have to read the back of this book. Determination becomes obsession and then it becomes all that matters. Jeremy Irvine had this to say about the book the Devereaux siblings are young, talented entrepreneurs running a successful insurance company. That success is tested as a series of unimaginable events surround them. London, her sister Remy and their brother Luke evoke feelings of immense loyalty from those close to them. But some aren't loyalists and everyone isn't quite who they appear to be. Someone despises them enough to commit arson against their company. When that doesn't hurt enough, the consequences turn deadly for one of them. The police are struggling to find the perpetrators. Hello, can I read forcing the siblings to take matters into their own hands? Can they survive or will they succumb to the fire starter? Oh my God, stace, you did that, girl. I couldn't be more proud of you. I'm super excited for the journey of the book. I'm looking forward to being with you there on the journey. You got to come to South Florida and do a book signing you know what.
Speaker 2:You're right. I'm doing one in Atlanta very shortly planning one in New Orleans. But you're right, maybe I could look into coming down to Florida as well.
Speaker 1:I would love to be a part of that decision. So let's talk about that and also let me know all the dates, and do you have any other dates already that you can let people know, in case they're hearing this this weekend and want to participate?
Speaker 2:Sure, Well, for Atlanta it's very soon. It's going to be Thursday, may 16th. In Alpharetta, georgia, in New Orleans we're finalizing it now, so it's not quite on the books, but it should be June 28th. Excellent, so very excited about it.
Speaker 1:But more to come. Is there a website that folks can? Or social media? How can people tap into the social side of who you are and what's happening?
Speaker 2:I do have an Instagram account, and so it definitely pulled me up on Instagram. Stacey Harmon, and gosh, you know what I'm, so used to it. I think it's Stacey Harmon 5359. But look me up, you'll see. Excellent, excellent. I've got the book on there and certainly Facebook as well, working on a website as we speak.
Speaker 1:See, this is what happens when success starts pulling you right. It's like you're putting all the pieces. I honestly feel that same way about the podcast. Even though it's been a minute, it's been such a thing that you know, I've been like, okay, I'm doing it because of passion, not because it's, you know, sort of structured and you know all those things. And I'm doing it because of passion, not because it's, you know, sort of structured and you know all those things, and I'm being pulled to do that rather quickly, and so it's pretty neat to start putting that meat on the bones Right. So, so good. Well, again, all success. I'm sure that this is going to be amazing. Godspeed to you and all of this, and keep being courageous and fighting the good fight and telling your story, your personal story, because I think one of the things that I would just double click on before we leave it is incredible that you produce something so beautiful out of a time that was so hard. Thank you, shantra, I certainly appreciate it. So proud of you. Love you, girl, love you too.