Proven Not Perfect
Proven Not Perfect
Emmys And Advocacy: Jasmine Minor On Faith, Pivoting, And Purpose
What if perfection wasn’t the prize, but the prison? We sit down with Jasmine Minor—three-time Emmy winner, ABC journalist, and founder—to trace a life that looks shiny on the outside and deeply rooted within. From Division I tennis to newsroom leadership, Jasmine shares how injury, heartbreak, and a hospital visit turned into a turning point: let go, take the smallest step, and trust God to write the lines you can’t.
The conversation moves with honesty and heart. We unpack how perfectionism clashes with patience, why trophies can’t deliver lasting joy, and how acceptance grows roots that hold in any storm. Jasmine opens up about losing her father and channeling grief into the Kevin Minor Legacy Fund, the largest tennis scholarship for a Midwest female player, transforming memory into momentum. She describes journalism as listening with reverence—meeting every story with respect across cultures, beliefs, and politics—so people feel seen without needing a sermon.
Then we get practical. Jasmine’s framework is “strategically delusional”: dream beyond your circumstances and pair it with action. Cold email the hero. Ask the “dumb” questions. Gather critique and follow the common thread of feedback. Build rooms like the Rise Society where mission-driven women share resources and uplift each other. The result is a path that blends ambition with humility, excellence with empathy, and pivoting with purpose.
If you’ve been chasing the next win and still feel empty, this one’s a reset. Press play, take one faithful step, and tell us the bold ask you’ll make this week. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs courage today, and leave a review so others can find this story of hope and grit.
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I'm gonna tell you this. This conversation that you are about to hear is so good. And there are two scriptures that I just want to preamble this podcast with. The first one, Psalm 2519. The humble, he guides in justice, and the humble, he teaches his way. That's the first one. The second one, Proverbs 3, 5. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. When I tell you, if these scriptures did anything to your soul, if they planted any seeds that you need particularly planted today, then you will want to stick around and listen more to this podcast. Heck, you're gonna want to go watch it on YouTube because you're just gonna want to see the vibes. But let me tell you this: I am talking today with Jasmine Minor. Jasmine is a TV celebrity personality, especially if you live around the Midwest. You know, if you know, you know, she's on ABC Channel 7, and she is telling stories, running beats, and doing all the things um in journalism. But perhaps the thing that you'll hear is most exciting to her is a relatively recent venture that was born out of the heart. And I think it's pretty phenomenal to hear about. Um, I'll also tell you that along with doing those things, she's still very much an advocate and telling stories for those who don't necessarily have the voices to tell their own story. This lady has shown us how to pivot and pivot gracefully and to pivot up. And she's also shown us how to be bold in doing so. Ask for what you want, seek mentorship and be bold and courageous in laying that path for yourself. I wish that I could say it was all because she was a superwoman, but actually, I don't wish I could say that. This woman is rooted in faith and she is continuing to unpack and explore her own faith. And what I love with all of the accolades that I can tell you about Jasmine, when you listen to this podcast, when you watch this podcast on YouTube, what you will see is a humble soul who is still very much in receiving mode, who is still very much planted at the seat of the throne and asking for wisdom and understanding. And I'ma tell you, if you um, you know, I know not everybody shares the same faith, but if you're listening to this podcast, you probably have a source that's similar to mine. And I would say, even if you don't, I would listen to this podcast and I would just let the ideas roll through your head and see where it lands. You're in for a treat, proven not perfect. My conversation with the amazing businesswoman, the wonderful articulate storyteller, and the blessed child of God, Jasmine Minor. Enjoy. Hey, Jasmine.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, thanks for having me here. I'm so excited. Oh my goodness. Like be here and doing this, seriously.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you, thank you, thank you. First of all, I just can't even go another second without giving the roses and acknowledging three-time Emmy Award winning. Three times, like not one, two, three. Amazing CEO of your own business that's all about, quite frankly, I think exactly what I love right now, and that's telling stories and uplifting those that tell stories. Love that. Can't wait to hear more about that. But one of the things that speaks so loudly is your heart when we talk about and I learn more about your advocacy work and just all of the things. So we're gonna jump right on in, okay? Just right in. I love it. I love it. So I wrote this book, Proven Not Perfect. And if I'm honest with you, I was just having this conversation with my husband the other day, where, you know, when you're led to do something purposeful, and you do it, there's the yes that you give to do it, and then there's the unpacking of the thing over time. And when I first released proven not perfect, even the words that were pulled together for me, I really didn't understand what I was saying, what words I was putting together. And it's become so clear to me as I'm mom and I watch my kids go through various things, various tests, that I'm starting to understand the words more, right? The tests are the proven. That's the proving part, right? And it's not perfect, but the tests help us to become. So I would love to just start out by asking you what's your what's your relationship, your personal relationship with perfection? Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_02:Um we perfection and I go way back. Way back uh since August 26th of 1993. Um moment I came out of the room. That is that is how long perfection and I go back. Um and we had to, we have had to really work on our vote ship. We've had to take space away from each other. Um, and we have had to, I think, redefine what the relationship is and what it should be. So for me, I you know, I'm a woman of faith. And so I, you know, I I believe that uh, you know, Jesus is the only perfect one. Um, and but I feel like throughout my life, um, it wasn't that I was trying to aim to be more in the image of God, but I feel like I was trying to go beyond what God had for me in a way. Um, yeah, I I feel I feel like, you know, when you try to take the reins out of God's, because I think the one of the thoughts that I really struggle with, um, I'm someone who dreams really big and I tend to visualize things. And in my head, it seems perfect and this is right, and this is amazing, and this is things right now, right? Exactly. And like right now, this is what it needs to look like, and this would be perfection to me in my eyes. And a lot of times I struggled with well, are my dreams bigger than God's? Which it sounds crazy when it comes out of my mouth because it's a total lie, right? Because I know God's plans are higher than my plans, and his ways are higher than my haze, and the way he thinks is is more than I can possibly understand. But it was a sense of waiting on him to move in my life. And that perfectionism and patience usually don't go hand in hand. They tend to be um almost enemies in a way, right? Of waiting your turn, waiting for God to show up in your life, waiting for um the success to really reveal itself. Um, and I think in in every aspect of my life, you know, you mentioned that I've got three Emmys, and every single Emmy that I have ever won, I thought that the moment I won the Emmy, oh, this is it. This is it. Every door is gonna open now, everything's just gonna flow, right? Like this is it. Yes. And it's interesting because I would build it up, I would build it up, I would build it up, and then you get the Emmy. And you know, I mean, it's sitting right behind one of them is sitting right behind me. I mean, it sits on the shelf and it collects dust. Yeah, and it's there. And the truth is, is like, yes, that was a great moment, but life still goes on, right? And and and the thing with perfectionism is that there's no it it never stops. It has this way of making you feel like you need more. There's nothing that's ever enough, right? There's nothing that you can get, nothing you can attain, nothing you can be that would be able to be so perfect that this is this is the final look, if you will, right? This is this is this is it, because you get there and you realize, oh man, I want another Emmy.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man, I want Master said something this morning that I thought man did he nail it. When you have that perfectionism spirit on you, it's always what's next. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:That blows and I'm mine, like because it's actually and yes, yes, absolutely. And I think, and I for me, I think where God has really had to work on me and transform my heart and my mind and the way I see him, the way I see life, the way I see myself, is understanding that there is beauty in the here. Yes, and so many times, perfectionists, uh maybe like you and I, right, we're thinking about when I get there, when I have this, when I look this way, I will be X, Y, and Z. I will be happy, I will have more joy, I will have more peace when I get married, when I become a mom, when I fulfill the CEO role, whatever that is, whatever that when is, we think that it's going to equal happiness and joy. And then you get there and you go, Well, there's more that I want. And so there, and I what I've had to learn is that there is a beauty and a specific intention and purpose in exactly where you are. Uh, I had a friend tell me, you know, Jazz, I just want to be where my two feet are planted. Wherever that is, that's exactly where I want to be. And I think that was very difficult for me. Um, but as I've learned to sort of accept, okay, God, even in this moment, with whatever is in my bank account, with whatever losses I've taken, whatever wins I've taken, whatever trophies I've had and uh nominations I've lost, um, in singleness and relationships, whatever that looks like, there is purpose for me in this moment. You have carefully constructed my life that even in this moment, even if I feel like I'm at the mountaintop or I'm in the depths of the rivers, I'm exactly where I need to be. I'm exactly where I need to be. And and and I think there is freedom in being able to say it's okay to be exactly where I am. And perfectionists, we're not great at thinking that and feeling that. Um so for me, I it's been an it's it's a I think ever long relationship that I've had to work on and develop. Um, you know, I I think I think there are good there are good things with being a perfectionist, right? Uh you tend to be very ambitious, very driven. You tend to have a vision for your life or what you're trying to do, a dream. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think it's when we separate the dream and the vision away from, well, what does God's vision look like? What does his dream look like? And are they the same? And that's when we kind of that's when the um, you know, they talk a lot about perfectionism, it sort of it sets an expectation, right? And when we set an expectation and we don't ask God, hey, what becomes is that disappointment disappointment, right? Um, and so that's where I've really had to, I think, uh churn, if you will, um feeding me and and and giving to me and figure out, you know, hey, can I have God's expectation? Um, and the truth is, is that it in the here and now it is is intentional and purposeful, and it's something that he wants me to have joy. You know, he says we have goodness in the land of the living. He didn't mean like, okay, tomorrow when you do this, he said, no, I have given you all that you need, right? So I I I've had to really learn that over the years. Um that has been a and keep learning, right? That's been a struggle. It's been a struggle.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. But I think I think that that's what you're saying is so good because I think many of us, um, when you have that drive and that determination, and whether it was you on your own or whether it was parents or somebody family for you, right? Um, it's hard to accept that all he ever needs is our yes. That's it. And we overthink that I overthink that, right? I overthink that and start making it into the picture that I believe he wants instead of giving the yes and allowing him to fill it in. Um, I love, oh wow, this is so well.
SPEAKER_02:It's like handing him the paintbrush, right? Yeah, it's like you're trying to make the picture, whether that's a painting drawing, and it's like, give him the paintbrush, give him the pencil. And it's almost like he's saying, daughter, sit back, relax, enjoy the masterpiece that I'm making. You don't have to try so hard. And I think there's a freedom when there's a level of acceptance in that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, so good. Okay, so let's take it all the way back to Jasmine as a young girl, growing up with this unique and beautiful skill set and amazing parents that poured into you so much to bring that to life, right? So tell us about, you know, your 11, 13 to 12, 13 years old. Um, you know, what what's in you? What are you doing? Um, and we'll walk that into kind of a helpful gift.
SPEAKER_02:I'll start, you know, slightly a little bit earlier because I feel it came very quick for me. I was five years old and my parents put me in tennis classes. And I remember I would come in and I had a bit of sass, you know. You know, you're talking about perfectionists, you know, we always think that we're right. I don't, you know, it's like we can let that go. But and so yes, exactly. And I would stop class, like literally halt the class at five years old and tell the coach, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not the way you do it. This is how you yes, I was that kid. And I remember uh well, I my parents told me this. I don't actually remember doing this, but you know, my mom and dad would get so embarrassed because all the other parents of the other kids would be like, goodness, Jasmine is interrupting class again. Uh so they so they pulled me out of tennis for about a year. Um, and then I came back and I had to learn, you know, to be coachable, to listen, to kind of be quiet, that kind of thing. Um, but it was a sport that I loved. My older sister played and I kind of followed in her footsteps. Um, I went on to play division one tennis at Georgia Tech. Um, there I studied marketing and finance and had my business degree. Um, and I'm actually one of three girls. And so we're the first and only family in history to have three black women play division one tennis. It's really been it was really a kudos, I think, to my parents. Neither my mom or dad um were athletes or really played a bunch of tennis, to be honest with you, at our level. Um, but they were just a firm believer that whatever you pick, whether it's piano or a ballet or you want to be in chess club or tennis, whatever it is, the number one rule was you give it 110% that if you're gonna do it, you actually do it. And then if you really just don't like it, then you do something else. But it was you're if you're gonna do something, you put the time and the effort in to actually see what it can be. Um, and so my mom and dad were very big on that. And I think that that really set us up, not just for the sport, but I think for life um as as young women. Um and then, you know, I think my junior year, I actually uh hurt both of my it was things. And I think this is really where my relationship with God was uh the most developed in college. Um not necessarily in a fun way, but in a way where he really had to uh kind of tear some things down in me, really and take the veiling off. Um and I I got to a point where you know I wasn't gonna play my senior year. I just couldn't compete at the same level. Um, and I was pretty lost. You know, I I really didn't know what to do. It was something, you know, that I had been doing for almost 20 years at that point. Um, it was everything that I knew. Um, and the plan, the vision, right? The perfect dream or life to me was being a professional tennis player. Like that was it. That's what I wanted. Um, and there was a lot of frustration that happened with that. Um, and I think, you know, I was coming out of a very uh turbulent and abusive relationship in college, and that took so much out of me. Uh, but really, I think the day that it flipped a switch for me um is I was coming home and that relationship had landed me in the emergency room. And it was, I was at a crossroads and a point where look, this is you got to get up and fight. Like you have to make the decision to pick yourself back up because you you will not make it if you don't. Like that was it. And I was at the point where I was like, look out, I'm done. I'm done. Take me home. I meant I gave everything, I tried everything, and it just fell apart on me. Um, and it and it was that moment where, you know, I think, especially as athletes, you know, we know how to hold on. You know, like if there's a rope and you get rope burn in your hand, like you can hold on. And what God was saying to me is, I need you to let go, I need you to let go. And I remember coming home to my parents' house from the hospital, maybe this was about two weeks later, and I was so frustrated. I was so frustrated that I got home and I just I started slamming things in my room. I was so angry at the world, so angry at God. I was just angry at everything. And there was this thick Bibles, the athlete's Bible. Um, it had a blue cover on it. And I was so fed up that I went and I tried to like tear the Bible. Now, at this point, I mean, I'm a little weak link, right? I just got like out of the hospital. This is like 300 pages, and I can, I can't even like it didn't happen, right? And so I'm frustrated that I can't tear this Bible up. Um, and I'm sitting and I'm yes, it was, it was, it was like that. And I'm sitting there and I'm, you know, I'm crying, I'm frustrated, I'm upset. And I just sit on the floor and I remember looking out the window, and it was beautiful, beautiful blue skies. It was a summer day, like the perfect said, perfect day, not a cloud in the sky. And this is one of the very few times where I have heard the voice of God audibly, not the Holy Spirit, like God speaking. And I'm sitting there crying, and I hear God say, Beloved, why is the sky blue? And he asked again, he said, Why is the sky blue? Now, I was pretty good with science and math growing up. So I tried to kind of reason. I said, you know, well, the sky is blue because you know, the chemicals do this and the atmosphere, da-da-da, and it creates a hue of blue, whatever, you know, kind of thing. And I'm annoyed and frustrated and whatever. And God says, that's how the sky is blue. He said, Why is the sky blue? And I said, I don't know, God. I don't know. And he said, the sky is blue because I made it blue, and everything that I do is good. And that day I picked up all the pieces of glass that I had broken in that room. I put the books on the shelf, and you know, I just got up. I just got up and I had no plan. Um, I had no idea what I was going to do. Um, I didn't know where to go or where to start or uh what the right move was. Um, and I don't think that I needed to. I think what God needed me to do that day is get up and take a step. That was it. Um, and for me that looked like eating something because I hadn't actually eaten anything in, you know, almost a week. And I got a spoonful of yogurt down that day. And that was okay, I took a step. I I I got up. Um, and about two years later, that's when I won my first Emmy. Um took the path of journalism and kind of poured myself into a career that I had never thought about in my entire life. I I got my master's in journalism, but it wasn't something that I went uh and studied in undergrad. Um, it was just kind of this idea that had popped in my head from a friend of mine that thought I would be good on camera. And I said, okay, well, where do I start and what do I do? Um, and it took a lot of asking dumb questions, how to hit record on a camera, how to edit, like Googling, like, you know, journalism for dummies, basically. And I just watched shows. Sound like me with the podcast. Like, no, I mean, you just but you start, right? You took a step. You learned by fire, but you just kind of went with it and you made mistakes, and then you asked for help, and then you asked for guidance. And the truth is, is that every step of the way, God was with me and he was holding me up. And so um I think that was that was the biggest turning point in my life. Um, and in a moment where I feel like I had always known God, but now it wasn't just knowing, it was believing, and it wasn't just believing, it was accepting his love for me. And I think that's different because when you get to a level of acceptance, um, it means you allow permeation.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:And permeation, it's kind of like um you think about a big tree, and right, you think about the roots that go all through the ground, it's it's so deep that even if you cut the top of the tree, the roots are so deep into the ground, you can't. You literally have like you literally have to would go and have to dig and dig and dig to pull it up. And that and that's what I mean is that it it came to a point where understanding his love for me and my love for him was so deep inside that at the mountaintop or the rivers of abuse, with everything and with nothing, in joy and depression, um, and in moments where he's been loud in my life and moments where he's been silent, in the days where I am the happiest and where I am in grief. I have all that I need because I know without a doubt that I am his. Amen. And that fact, I was free. So that that was that's really, yeah, that's it, that was really the um the big, the big turning point. And and and and I won't lie, you know, I um I I think a lot of people when they when they hear testimonies, right, um, they almost uh hear them as if they're happy endings. Yeah, and and the truth is that they're happy moments, right? They're they're joyful. They're a moment, but like I said, life still life goes on. Life, right? Life still goes on. I thought that that was going to be the hardest thing that I ever went through in my life. It was not, but but what God did is He developed tools in me, right? And strength and endurance and perseverance in me to be able to take on more of life's challenges. Um, and so uh, you know, a couple of years ago, we uh we lost my father um unexpectedly, Kevin Minor. Um yeah, thank you, thank you. Um wonderful, wonderful dad. Um and we started the Kevin Minor Legacy Fund, uh, which is the single largest uh tennis scholarship in the Midwest that's given to a female tennis player. Um, we've been doing that the past couple of years in his honor. Um, and I and I think I don't think that I would be able to do it had I not understood everything that God was trying to show me, which was this life is not yours. It's not meant to be kept in you, right? It's meant to be permeated through you.
SPEAKER_00:Amen.
SPEAKER_02:There's more that that that needs to be touched, there's more people that need to be touched, and so uh that's really what we're trying to do through the Kevin Minor Legacy Fund.
SPEAKER_00:Oh my gosh, jasmine. First of all, just an inhale exhale, because the sincerity by which you share your testimony, your story is so beautiful. And I love also the honesty in sharing, which is just even as we get to those points of achievement, whether it's in our physical existence or whether it's in our spiritual faith life, right? There are levels to it and we're constantly unpacking and we're constantly learning, right? What do you what do you find is perhaps the biggest responsibility that you yourself have when you've come to this place of enlightenment, this place of understanding, and you have still yet all these gifts and talents that are available to you. What what do you what do you find is the hardest part about just reconciling that, right? Because there's a bit of responsibility that comes.
SPEAKER_02:No, I I think it's um I think that's very real, right? Um we are we are responsible for um, you know, I think not only our actions, but when you're when you're saying I've accepted, you know, Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, when you're saying God is the I am that I am, um the way that you treat others and um the way that you go out to society, I think. think needs to needs to match that. And it's something that I I do not do perfectly. But what you know, I I have a a good mentor of mine. And for years she's always used kind of the same phrase. And she's she's I would say she's my spiritual mentor, my personal mentor in faith. And she always says, you know, Jazz, don't trust me. I'm human. I'm gonna fail. I'm I'm I'm human. Don't trust me. She says, trust the Jesus in me. Right. So so when I when I um when I sort of have accepted you know God for who he is in my life um I have I have said that this is how I want to live my life that I need that I need his correction. And so that means that there is nothing I can do there's nothing I can say there's no thought I can have there's no action I can take that can escape his hands. Literally nothing which also means that when I do make a mistake when I when I do say something wrong when I when I when I in in moments where I am hurtful whether it's intentional or unintentional um but just by way of life right and and being human um that the Jesus in me corrects me right the Jesus in me gives me the right things to say the Jesus in me says girl you need to get up and off that couch and you need to go apologize. And I'll like well God it was their fault or it was her fault. How do I have to go right he's like I didn't talk about them I said you right and and you know to the point where it's like he won't even let me go to sleep until I send the text saying I'm sorry right like it's it I can't it's real jasmine it's real it really it really is real. And I think um you know I think it's I think it's so important to uh I think have have that understanding of just um how important that responsibility is yeah um and that we are not going to meet it every time um and that that's really that's really what like I can't sit here and say you know I get it right because I don't I really don't and there are things that throughout my relationship with God and how that's developed there are things that he brings up to me that happened like years ago years ago that he's like you know you really hurt that person when you did that and I'm like I haven't even thought about that I didn't even know right like he like he and suddenly I you know and this happened to me a couple of years ago where I'm calling a friend who I hadn't talked to in in years at that point and I said you know what this just really was revealed to me. I just really feel it's on my heart. I just want to say I'm so sorry that I did that I I didn't know that it hurts you so badly and they were like you know jasmine this really just made my day you know it just it's amazing how God works um and his timing but but I but I do think it it's very important to um you know use our voices and our platforms um for good and I've had people you know ask me because you know of course there are people that are not of faith and you know don't know him and you know they are where they are and I've had to I've had to answer the question of like you know well how do you talk about God right without um putting people in the wrong way and I said you know people don't need to hear scripture to feel God. Amen you know what I mean you you can you can love people and you can be kind to people and you can be patient with people and you can be forgiving towards people without ever actually uttering the word of God. You can literally live it out in your actions. I call that be the light you can be the light yes yes I think that's I think that's a perfect grace and a and a way to put it um you know and and I and I think that that gives you the ability to really uh you know what I do as a journalist is I talk to all different kinds of people I talk to all different kinds of cultures I talk to all different people from different religious backgrounds non-religious backgrounds I talk from people from different countries and different languages and different ways of thinking and different opinions and uh political outlooks and and feelings like and experiences right and I think that is such an honor and a privilege as a journalist to be able to sit and listen to someone's story regardless of what that story is. There is a certain respect I think that should be given when people are sharing who they are and what matters to them. And that's something that I really do try to live at wow oh girl so good.
SPEAKER_00:So all right so there's a thing that oftentimes um we can get so focused on that list of goals and dreams and then pivots happen. And one of the things that plays through your life and your trajectory so very well is the ability to accept and to pivot with those moves and shifts, right? What would you say are some of the things that really help you when those pivot opportunities come to be able to do so certainly we know it's grounded in faith, right?
SPEAKER_02:Certainly we know that but are there some practical things that you actually bring to bear that could help somebody out yeah I um I have this phrase that I've sort of come up of recently um I call it strategically delusional you know a lot of a lot of um uh uh Gen Z have this they they started the Dululu it's it's like when you're delusional when you like think it's you just think way too like up in the air basically um I I I think what can happen is when we are young everything just seems possible yes right everything seems wonderful and big and it's like I can be here and I can be this I can be this and throughout life I think society and circumstance can shrink that it can shrink it to a point where we stop believing. And the reason why I say be strategically delusional is because I still want people to dream big it's just I want you to put a plan of action towards that. That's the strategy behind it. It's not saying it's not possible. It's not saying that whatever building the business or having the family or whatever that looks like for you is is suddenly so far away or circumstance has um has has put it in a in a in a box if you will because then now we're just limiting what God can do in our lives right but what I'm saying is showing up every single day and saying this is how I plan to get there. These are the people that I'm going to talk to I think for me pivoting from business college uh athletics tennis and getting into journalism um it was asking the dumb question that how that's how I was strategically delusional. I literally would go up to people I would just cold call people Robin Roberts was one of the people I did that with she's the good morning America um anchor and has been for a very long time. I found her assistant I told her hey I'm gonna be in New York for a couple of days I flew myself out there and the only thing I did was Robin can you just look at my reel? Can you just critique it? I had 15 minutes that's it 15 minutes and I gained all the knowledge that I possibly could gain. And this is someone who really kind of has no idea what she's doing in journalism asking someone who knows everything about what they're doing in journalism right girl aim high aim high that's what perfectionists do. Aim high yes but six so about five six years later you know they're introducing me at ABC Chicago and we are owned by ABC News and Robin Roberts remembered me she remembered the college kid that came up and was like hey like can you just help me for a second tell me what I'm doing right um and and that's the way I'm I'm strategically delusional right that's kind of a fun phrase that I'm and that I'm making but what I'm really saying is being able to ask the dumb questions and get critique I don't think we do that enough. We kind of get to a point where we stop asking for feedback and I think the moment that we lose the humility to do that it just kind of puts a limitation on how far we can take that thing. It's okay to hear from other people I'm not saying every opinion's gonna be correct or nice even right but I but I am saying I think when you ask for feedback, what you're going to get is a thread, a common thread through every single person that is going to stick out and say, this is the area that I need to do better at. This is where I need to improve. I think something that helped me is the way we chose to raise funds for the Kevin Minor Legacy Fund this year is something I called the Rise Society. And that is just essentially a gathering of Chicago's top women in business. I just wanted to put them in the same room and bring them together for a great cause but create a room where instead of it coming in and they're like you know who are you and who do you have to offer it's more of like tell me about that dream that drives you.
SPEAKER_01:Amen.
SPEAKER_02:It's a group of women that are mission driven by impact and uh lead with character and have made a decision to give back and to pour into and the reason I did that is because so many of those women who even knew me when I was younger that were in the room they were people who I went looking for feedback from they were the people who said be humble enough to take this from me because I want to see you succeed. And that's why years down the road I'm able to create this room with um so much ambition yet so much heart yet so much care um and so highly curated of successful women because that's how I was taught that was the feedback that I got not to do it quick but to do it right. And there's a difference. And so I think be strategically delusional right ask the dumb questions when you don't know be humble look for feedback and critique and find the common thread. I think you can apply those things to literally anything that you are doing.
SPEAKER_00:And I promise you it will take you further faster and it will build joy all at the same time and peace and character it's not just the success but it's also the impact that you are making along the way and I think when you have that that's when magic happens in my opinion Jasmine honestly there's so many there's so many lanes we haven't even we haven't even gone so many places. Love to do part two girls we are definitely going to do a part two but I think that this part one is so important just to ground us we're in a time where people are leaving faith in drones people are disillusioned for many reasons and instead of clinging to their core and their faith many are saying well maybe it doesn't exist at all um and I think when there's an opportunity to host a conversation because like you I do believe that conversations have the power to change things um but to host a conversation right now where someone who has achieved so many beautiful things who still humbly shares I'm still figuring it out. I'm still yeah I'm still not perfect. I'm still being proven all those things right I think it's beautiful and I want to thank you because it takes such a grounded soul to be able to just share those things um that I know will bless others and I'm so grateful to you honestly so we were we should tell the people that we have this connection through a beautiful soul um yeah Maggie Maggie O'Brien yes uh Maggie is incredible um and uh just one of the most humble kind women that I know um and uh she was recently on a panel of mine for the Rise Society where we raised funds for the Kevin Minor Legacy Fund.
SPEAKER_02:Uh she is the uh co-head of JP Morgan Private Bank here in Chicago and just the her resume in her own right is absolutely incredible. So that's how we were connected and I'm so glad that Maggie connected us because you know she's one of those people where the moment she emails you're just like yep I don't have to read the email yes whatever you need got hey Jazz can you do this? Yep. What is it? You know don't care. Just tell you know when where kind of thing and and that's all you need because and that's what I'm saying that when you can put mission driven women in the room yes there aren't a lot of questions that you need and you don't need the answers to everything because you can trust that the positions that they're putting you in is going to be ones of fruitfulness. And so huge shout out to Maggie O'Brien love her just love her.
SPEAKER_00:Well I'm so glad that you love her as much as I do all those things you said honestly I could not say more. But it goes back to something that you said right it's it's who you choose to show up as and what you choose to put out in this world. That's what people remember right because all the extra stuff the C's and the E's and the P's and all the stuff no one remembers that no but they remember how you made them feel I think our dear Michelle Obama said that did she say they remember how you make how they how you make them feel um I definitely definitely has said it I think actually Oprah not even Oprah I'm sorry Michelle and Oprah I believe got that from Maya Angelo. Maya let's get to the source girl right and phenomenal woman phenomenally there you go exactly yeah that's right on well girl look I'm gonna let you go um I've I've borrowed enough time um I see so many wonderful opportunities to do some things and uh and because I know that God just has placed similar things on our heart and so being obedient and just saying yes Lord and letting the rest just come and that's it. That's all I'm doing. So thank you for having me on. Oh my gosh you have blessed us thank you thank you for all you're doing keep keep spreading truth and keep speaking for those who don't necessarily have the voices to speak for themselves and keep keep being strong in places that sometimes incite fear. So we appreciate you thank you thank you