Episode 19: Tangents 2: the search for more tangents

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Evan: 0:00

Hi, everyone. Welcome to episode 19 of Sheba. Hebrews the Jewish fermenting podcast today, we've got another tangents episode due to some scheduling issues and some errors on my part. I'm trying to get things. organized. didn't have the time to record this one. So instead, we've got some more tangents for you, just a few of this time, but hopefully you all enjoy and hopefully we'll have a new episode for you in two weeks.

0:26

With that one of the tangents.

Alison: 0:30

Okay. I have an opinion about Fahrenheit that

Evan: 0:35

isn't nicer for Fahrenheit, but Fahrenheit is more usable for something for many

Alison: 0:40

yeah, like if you tell me that the temperature is 50 degrees versus 60 degrees. 50 degrees versus 70 degrees. And that means a lot to me, like in terms of how I sense it, like Fahrenheit says a lot about how like a human being senses temperature, whereas Celsius is talking about water, centigrade, whatever you want to call it. But, you know, the difference between. A couple of degrees in Celsius is a huge difference and it makes more sense to be talking, in terms of like our physical perception in Fahrenheit.

Evan: 1:25

Th that is true, but I also Fahrenheit is the only Imperial unit. I still use regularly everything I think in kilos, I think in kilometers, I think in leaders, I do not,

Alison: 1:38

No slug feet per second squared for you.

Evan: 1:41

no sludge or British thermal units.

Alison: 1:44

Oh my God. British thermal units. every engineering student hates. Uh, Evan and I are both former engineering students. Now engineers, every engineering student in the U S at some point, we'll have to do a math problem using units of slug, slugs, or slug feet per second squared, or, uh, some variation on that. Uh, that's just plain old. You got your British thermal units, which are a unit that I to this day, do not understand why anybody touches. Uh, but they show up in math problems. They show up in engineering problems and they proceed to drive everybody up the wall. And then you try and forget that ever happened.

Evan: 2:31

So in my Thermo class, which was the professor was not great at teaching all honesty, but he was the most vindictive of all my professors,

Alison: 2:41

Ooh.

Evan: 2:42

right for thermodynamics.

Alison: 2:44

Oh, I got really lucky with my, Thermo professor

Evan: 2:47

my, my fluids professor was great. My heat transfer professor was incredible. My Thermo professor was mean,

Alison: 2:54

so we have this one really great professor who taught a whole bunch of core classes. He taught two quarters where he taught Thermo exactly twice, and I got really lucky and got one of his two quarters of.

Evan: 3:09

That's very lucky. No, I got the guy who, the guy I've taught the Bader Thermo class. cause it was the one that fit in my schedule. But, he, several times had us do problems in BTUs and had to show at every step, all of our units, which is actually good practice. If you're doing engineering problems, especially at your, in your relatively intro classes, which thermal. Effectively included in showing, including your units everywhere along your equation is good practice. That's fine. But he wanted you to include it in BTS. So what several people, including myself and my roommate did is we did the problem in metric introverted every step of dropping it down into BTU's and then did it because that was easier than doing the problem in BTU's.

Alison: 3:55

Yeah, nobody wants to do a problem in BTU's. Nobody wants to do problem and slugs. It's just,

Evan: 4:04

I mean, the slug only exists. Just the Tilo. Does

Alison: 4:07

Yeah, Yeah, it does.

Evan: 4:08

filo.

Alison: 4:09

Where, when you're talking about pounds, there are pounds, mass versus pounds for. Those are technically different units. And the only time it's ever going to show up as something to bother you is when you're in engineering student. No scientist, I know is going to work with them because they just use a fricking Kalo.

Evan: 4:32

I was going to say hope. I was gonna say, hopefully some physics student occasionally gets tortured by them.

Alison: 4:38

Oh, presumably physics students, or maybe every once in a while, like chemistry.

Evan: 4:43

True.

Alison: 4:44

But you're never going to use them in real life. Just like deal with it while you're a student. And then, uh, you know, go brew something interesting. That'll wipe it out of your brain.

Evan: 4:58

I mean to tell you that the, uh, the friend who taught me homebrewing, was it having to engineer? Well, is a chemical engineer.

Alison: 5:05

Uh, well, I can tell you about the friend who taught me homebrewing. He's a mechanical engineer. His name was Evan. How you met him? Oh, we are not getting anywhere on it. It's usually just today.

Evan: 5:20

the wars, the Spanish succession, when the English were helping the Dutch become independent from the Spanish and trying to fight against the then most powerful nation in Europe, Spain, or Habsburg Spain, I should say, the Dutch, the English help

Alison: 5:33

in assuming the English are fighting with somebody and it's probably I've in the Spanish or the French, it's probably the French, but sometimes it's the

Evan: 5:41

yes, but I mean, you can, you can say that about pretty much every country in Europe, for more than 500 years,

Alison: 5:47

Yeah.

Evan: 5:48

except Switzerland,

Alison: 5:49

Well, Switzerland

Evan: 5:50

is staring, which is staring aggressively across the border.

Alison: 5:54

yeah. They're not necessarily. Switzerland is not actually the most neutral place. They just don't actually fight.

Evan: 6:02

Oh, they fight. They just don't fight for them. They don't fight under the. Swiss mercenaries have a long distinguished military history.

Alison: 6:09

Yes.

Evan: 6:10

There's a reason the Vatican has the Swiss guard.

Alison: 6:13

yes, but away. Um, sorry, I need to mention, I'm not sorry about this. I just keep saying, sorry. If you want to see something ridiculous. Look up the Swiss guard uniforms

Evan: 6:28

Yeah, they are ridiculous. They are some, some people claim Michael Angelo, um,

Alison: 6:34

weren't designed by Michelangelo near hideous.

Evan: 6:37

they are hideous. I haven't seen anything historically to back that up, but it looks like a bad thing. You'd find at a Ren fair. I'm just going to say that.

Alison: 6:48

Yes. It looks like what you would see the fool dressed in at a run far and a run

Evan: 6:54

And these are modern professional soldiers.

Alison: 6:57

and they're hideous.

Evan: 6:58

This is not some honorary guard. These are real soldiers. And they are hideous. Um,

Alison: 7:05

bad.

Evan: 7:07

but so what, so we talked about your neighbor, the old band

Alison: 7:14

were on a tangent about everybody in Europe fighting.

Evan: 7:17

And I've already mentioned punches, which is definitely going to be one of the things though. The most famous Punchbowl is not used for punch.

Alison: 7:24

Is it the one in that game for the girl, like where they're all selling, the whole family is celebrating and then this little girl on a prey hat just smashes the Punchbowl and flips out. Cause that's one of

Evan: 7:36

there's no way I was thinking, I guess it is occasionally used for punch them more often. It's used for beer and champagne in roughly June.

Alison: 7:44

I'm sending you that gift.

Evan: 7:46

Can you D and it's, um, it's not been in your preferred place for about 52 or three years.

Alison: 7:53

You're getting this GIF.

Evan: 7:57

Uh, do you have any idea? What I'm suggesting is the world's most famous Punchbowl?

Alison: 8:03

No. Ah,

Evan: 8:06

Is that it, you get it?

Alison: 8:07

yup.

Evan: 8:08

I was emotionally holding it above, uh, holding it with its extension above my head. Also known as Lord Stanley.

Alison: 8:18

Oh yeah.

Evan: 8:21

Which is in my opinion, the greatest trophy in all of college and not all of college sports in all of sports.

Alison: 8:26

It's a good one.

Evan: 8:27

Yeah. Though Olympic metals are their own thing. The Stanley cup is, in my opinion, the best trophy in all sports, then there are college, college, college, especially

Alison: 8:37

I had had, had, had, had, had, had, had, had,

Evan: 8:41

But while it's loading,

Alison: 8:43

sorry, the hat hat hat thing is, um, uh, my Alma mater.

Evan: 8:50

yes.

Alison: 8:51

Evan is going to link this in the show notes. If, if,

Evan: 8:55

if this survives and if not, it'll be in the tangents episode.

Alison: 8:59

Yes. Um, anyways, that had had hat hat thing is a reference to, um, the, my Alma mater Northwestern university plays against, at university of Illinois in the, land of Lincoln game for the land of Lincoln trophy, which is shaped like a hat like Lincoln's hat. And every year, um, the Northwestern every year, then it happens the Northwestern, uh, I think it's the parody paper, not the real paper, but they, they post an article. That's just the word hat, like a million times with images interspersed. And it's just the word hat

Evan: 9:33

is wonderful. No, but what I was actually going to say, it's my second favorite. It's effectively a group trophy, uh, in, in sports are big 10 college football trophies,

Alison: 9:44

Yeah,

Evan: 9:44

things like the land of Lincoln trophy. There is, the, little brown jug.

Alison: 9:49

Yeah. Is that the Michigan one?

Evan: 9:52

So a little brown jug is Michigan, Minnesota, which is the story behind it is in 1906. The Michigan team was effectively undefeated or effectively unbeatable. It was referred to as the point a minute squat, even though they didn't actually store quite at that rate nearly was. And the only team that did not lose to them that year was Minnesota, which was not very good that year. And so Minnesota, but the coach before the game, didn't trust that Minnesota wouldn't try and poison the water supply dysentery. So what he did is he had,

Alison: 10:24

he comes

Evan: 10:25

he went out and bought a bunch of jugs of water so that he knew he had clean water that he'd fill himself. And Minnesota tied the game six, six, and rushed the field. And one of the Minnesota players taught one of the judges from the Michigan sideline. It was just hoisting it like a. And the equipment manager for Minnesota painted it in blue, blue on one side, maroon on the other. So the school colors with a block, each school's M logo and the, and the store six where the big sits for Minnesota, smaller sits for Michigan. And ever since then, I've actually seen, I have a photo with the brown jot. Yeah, it's a pretty big, it's like a two gallon jug. They paint theirs, they paint the stories of every single day I'm on it. And it is one of the many trophies that goes back and forth, um, which is really fun. Uh, our Alma maters, uh, well, technically I am a alumni of both Michigan and Minnesota, but our Alma maters last weekend played for a brand new trophy, which I really liked. Um, the history of it is the first trophy name for an African-American in college football.

Alison: 11:31

just great. There's There should be more than one,

Evan: 11:35

be more than one,

Alison: 11:35

should be many.

Evan: 11:36

there there are many people deserving of the honor.

Alison: 11:39

Yeah. So

Evan: 11:41

But the George Jewett trophy, because he was the first African-American player on both teams, Michigan for undergrad and starting med school in Northwestern for finishing med school,

Alison: 11:51

which is pretty cool.

Evan: 11:52

which is very

Alison: 11:53

but also there should be more,

Evan: 11:54

There should be more, I also learned he was, this is definitely a tangent to say the same as a tangent episode at this point.

Alison: 12:00

oh yeah. All of

Evan: 12:02

yeah, he, um, was the highest scoring player on both know on both teams for years until that 1906 squad. He was the highest scoring player for Michigan.

Alison: 12:13

Oh

Evan: 12:14

Uh, but some of the

Alison: 12:15

What a rockstar. And he's only getting a true.

Evan: 12:18

he's only getting a trophy now, which apparently some, Northwestern history major was reading just at your reality, who was the first player? Learn the story, emailed all, both coaches, both at ADSL and the bid 10 said, Hey, we should do something about this. And they were all just, yes, this is great.

Alison: 12:35

It's a great. story.

Evan: 12:36

It is a great story. My, there are a bunch of other fun trophies in the big 10, let the$5 bits of broken chair.

Alison: 12:44

know what that one's about, but that's pretty funny.

Evan: 12:46

it started between, um, it started between the Twitter account for Goldie gopher, the Minnesota mascot, and a fake Twitter account for the, um, Nebraska, then Nebraska head coach Bo Pelini called pho Pollini. Uh, and so they said, well, we're not supposed to be rivals. We need a trophy. And so one, and so one of the accounts said, well, we'll play for$5. And the other said, we should play for a broken chair.

Alison: 13:16

And they played for a broken

Evan: 13:18

And so it's all fan. It's not officially recognized by the bid 10 yet. Um, they should recognize it and it's called the$5 bits of broken chair trophy. And it is also a charitable organization that fundraises for the Minnesota Masonic children's hospital. And I can't remember the name of the hospital, but the children's hospital for Nebraska.

Alison: 13:38

That's great. I'm here for it.

Evan: 13:40

Yeah. I, I love trophies that happen either. Like, like, I mean the, the George Jewett trophy way overdue, but I love the trophies that are things like the brown jug, where it's they rushed the field and just grab something from the sideline and just started pretending it was a trophy. And now a hundred more than a hundred years later, it's a trophy.

Alison: 14:00

I'm here for it.

Evan: 14:01

Um, or the, the$5 bits of broken chair, which is only a few years old. It's just sports are fun.

Alison: 14:07

Yeah. And like, I, I really appreciate when somebody comes up with something that's silly and people. People are enjoying it and they find some way to ease it to do good.

Evan: 14:18

Absolutely.

Alison: 14:20

So like extra here for the moment,

Evan: 14:22

Absolutely. That is that's and it's definitely going into the apple tangents episode.

Alison: 14:28

lingo loose tangents episode is going to be like half from this one.

Evan: 14:32

Yeah, we've got we also, we also have what, 10 minutes on the, on the treaty of Versailles,

Alison: 14:39

Oh yeah. We've got a lot of tampons. This is going to be like three episodes tangents.