Episode 24: Tangents 4: The Search for Tangents 3

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Welcome to episode 24 shivers, Hebrews the Jewish fermenting podcast. We're hope to discuss all things, home brewing and fermenting from a Jewish perspective today, we've got another tangents episode by now. You should know the drill. These have been some of our most popular episodes. And we'd love that you are downloading it more than almost anything else. today as we've got some more tangents, obviously, and a few extra facts, one of mine is that recently I learned from the Ken Jennings, trivia podcast, omnibus about the presidential fitness test, which even though I have worked out every day for more than a year, I'm almost certain I would still fail. If that brings back, K through 12 PE memories. I'm sorry. and the fun fact from Alison this time is the I was pooping. They're sleeping. The two biggest threats to their population Our deforestation and chlamydia. anyone who's also seen John Oliver knows that he has a koala chlamydia award named after him. In Australia. And with that onto the tangents.

Alison: 1:06

I haven't ever seen blazing saddles high note. I am a notoriously bad at watching movies. No people don't, as a general rule, want to watch movies with me unless I have something to do with my hands or something. I have taken up needle point. That's been a big one for me, but like, I'm not very good at watching movies. I'm like bad at watching movies. I will heckle. I will be fidgeting. I'm I'm bad at it. Episodes of TV shows are like my limit and they're cutting it close. I'm usually doing something else while I'm watching those.

Evan: 1:42

so I would recommend you try watching plays in saddles.

Alison: 1:46

I mean, it's a famous one. I would just, I mean, I think in terms of like level of speed for Mel Brooks movies, that I can stick with a history of the world's part one

Evan: 2:01

Because that's all, you know, they're making history, the world part two,

Alison: 2:05

very excited.

Evan: 2:06

so excited. I'm so excited for that movie. I just finished listening to his memoir, which is titled all about me. Exclamation point.

Alison: 2:16

It's not titled June space.

Evan: 2:18

No, it's not quite titled Jews. June space.

Alison: 2:21

Lame.

Evan: 2:22

No, it's all about me. And it's wonderful.

Alison: 2:27

I mean, I'm here for that, but also,

Evan: 2:29

It drew and space would have been another great title. unfortunately the Judah Dota space was William Shatner, not him.

Alison: 2:36

yeah. Oh, well,

Evan: 2:40

yeah. but oh, it's such a good book and it is, I mean, there are a ton of people in that book he talks about was like, oh, he's name dropping. But it's like, no, it's very clear. He was a huge friend to these. These people were his close friends and every time he mentioned gene Wilder or Carl Reiner, Sid Caesar, it's like, oh no, yeah, those are big names. But then he's not mentioning them to sound like they're like, he's big and fancy. It's like, no, these were his close friends who, who he misses, especially when he mentioned. And bay crawfish is now departed wife.

Alison: 3:17

Yeah,

Evan: 3:18

Um, but that's from its strengths and not just Melbourne.

Alison: 3:22

I'm sure we'll find another way to come in somewhere.

Evan: 3:26

I mean, he is a wine fan, apparently

Alison: 3:29

You too.

Evan: 3:33

for Jews in space. We're flying around for testing the Hebrew

Alison: 3:39

Oh, I conic really iconic, also iconic. So your name is count the money counting, counting the money iconic.

Evan: 3:54

that's such all of his movies are great history where the world part one is very underrated.

Alison: 3:59

Oh yeah,

Evan: 4:01

Um, I thought I would probably put it as maybe my third favorite because I just such a big fan of blazing saddles in the pretty.

Alison: 4:08

the producers is, I mean, it's the producers.

Evan: 4:12

Yes, especially both versions are good. I prefer the original,

Alison: 4:16

Yeah. Well that's the producers. I mean,

Evan: 4:19

I mean, you get the combination of zero Mostel and gene Wilder or Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick, your heart. You've got to try to mess those up.

Alison: 4:29

yes. Yes. Ah,

Evan: 4:32

Yeah. Do you know, Mel Brooks is only an Ostrow Melbourne. Theoretically could be a triple a, you got, if you had another two Oscars,

Alison: 4:43

Oh, my God.

Evan: 4:46

he's got,

Alison: 4:47

That is pretty impressive.

Evan: 4:49

he's got two. He's got three Tony's that's that's most limiting.

Alison: 4:53

Yeah. That's wild. Only three Tony's.

Evan: 4:57

three Tonys. And I don't know how many he's done a ton of Emmy's because he's Mel Brooks and he wrote for TV for forever.

Alison: 5:07

Yeah, man did not realize that that's fun.

Evan: 5:13

Exactly. Uh, but they're not made mid strength in his movies.

Alison: 5:17

No, I wouldn't know what his bacon number is.

Evan: 5:21

ah, I don't think he's ever published any bacon. He'll have a bacon number. He won't have an overdose number though. Um, he also will have a Sabbath number,

Alison: 5:32

Yes.

Evan: 5:34

which is a tangent that I did include in one of our tangent episodes.

Alison: 5:39

I can't find it.

Evan: 5:41

though. Interesting, because this is definitely going in another tangent episode, tangent, I almost named tangents too. I tangent the tangent. The second tangents episode name was a play on Mel Brooks because there's was tangents to the search for more tangents, or, or something like that. Um, uh, but

Alison: 5:59

could've called it. tangents to the mighty ducks after one of my all-time favorite movies.

Evan: 6:05

that would have been good, but I just finished the Mel Brooks memoir. So that's why I named that. I could've called it tangents three. That searched for tangents too. That would have been the best one. Now, I guess if this isn't tangents three, congratulations. We now have tangents for the search for tangents three.

Alison: 6:20

Yeah.

Evan: 6:21

Um,

Alison: 6:25

We're just going to keep going with those.

Evan: 6:27

the what it would say, um, what was I thinking I did though, find out that, um, of bloat Tamir's Lenski his dad is. Uh, and his, um, he has an overdose, number four. I have an overdose number of six, which means that our collaborative distance is at most, uh, 10,

Alison: 6:50

very nice.

Evan: 6:52

which is just really cool. There are no more than 11 people between me and the heroic president of Ukraine

Alison: 7:01

And one of them.

Evan: 7:05

at the most. But thinking about it, the people who've worked with Paula does many of them know each other, so I can re so I can remove at least one.

Alison: 7:12

Okay. But to say that is pretty funny.

Evan: 7:18

yeah. Where's the Sabbath number calculator. Cause he's got to have a Sabbath number.

Alison: 7:23

Oh,

Evan: 7:24

and, and not, not, not,

Alison: 7:25

Okay. Side note on this, this rum sour. I ma I kind of recommends that you, drink it with a side of Tums because it's a lot of lemon juice, so boy.

Evan: 7:39

Yeah. Okay. So Melbourne has a bacon number of two. Mel Brooks was in life, stinks with Howard Morris, who was an end of the line with Kevin bacon.

Alison: 7:49

Okay. And does he have a, an earnest number,

Evan: 7:54

I do not think so. I'm trying to find if he has a Sabbath number and I can't right now, Sabbath number calculators are all pointing me back to air does bacon Sabbath

Alison: 8:06

number calculator?

Evan: 8:09

because he never finished college because he went to war.

Alison: 8:16

Um, Mel Brooks,

Evan: 8:21

If that doesn't work, try Melvin, come in STI.

Alison: 8:24

no offers match Melvin Kaminsky.

Evan: 8:29

I can't say I'm exactly that surprised

Alison: 8:32

Um, also I cannot find you.

Evan: 8:38

really?

Alison: 8:39

Yeah. Okay. The closest I've got is Harris, Edward G.

Evan: 8:43

It's not me. I mean, not all the I've been in the journal for journal or proceedings of the design of medical devices conference for 2019. And my master's thesis should both be included,

Alison: 8:58

this is math Sinai. They may just,

Evan: 9:02

not going to be in a direct math.

Alison: 9:04

what's your hair for me lab. Let's see what they've got.

Evan: 9:09

I can't find the, a good, all the Sabbath calculators that I've found are dead.

Alison: 9:17

Uh, Helene. Anyways, that's a separate Tandon.

Evan: 9:22

that is a tangent that we will, I'm sure. Find it though. We'll be in tangents three or tangents for the search for tangents three. Unless I come up with a more punny name.

Alison: 9:32

What's the third mighty ducks movie called?

Evan: 9:35

I don't remember.

Alison: 9:37

I don't like that one though, too, is the best

Evan: 9:39

too. Is the best isn't it? Or no? Three is the one with Kenan Thompson, right?

Alison: 9:45

Kenan Thompson comes in in two. Oh, it's D three, the mighty ducks. We could totally do a

Evan: 9:51

T3 the mighty tangents.

Alison: 9:52

yes.

Evan: 9:54

I will try and remember the bed. I have not seen the rebooted show on Disney plus.

Alison: 10:01

I'm not watching the rebooted show. They made the ducks, the villains. I'm not about that life.

Evan: 10:05

Yeah, I'm not watching it now. I mean, I was getting, it was on my list of things to watch eventually, but now it's.

Alison: 10:12

it's. not on my list. I saw the, I saw the preview and was like, oh, they did what to the ducks.

Evan: 10:18

mean, it was very low on my list and my list is quite long.

Alison: 10:24

I feel like my list doesn't really exist so much. It's like, people will say something to me that I should watch it. And they'll be like, Yeah. that's on my list. And then I completely forget it and never come back to it.

Evan: 10:36

No

Alison: 10:37

I have what have you, you've recommended things to me

Evan: 10:41

Well, no, no. I'm saying for myself when people recommend things to me, no comment. I mean, my list is most of the metaphorical.

Alison: 10:49

Yeah.

Evan: 10:51

Yeah. I know. I know. I know when I recommend things to people that the odds of them watching are best 50%.

Alison: 10:56

Yeah. Anyways,

Evan: 10:57

Yeah. Anyways, so aside from the wild, no, it's not up. It's probably all thing. It's up. No, m&ms from Michigan. He's very Midwestern.

Alison: 11:09

Oh,

Evan: 11:12

Hope, let me switch us sneak right past you there.

Alison: 11:15

yeah. I don't know why, but Spotify has discovered that if it plays a Spotify, discover specifically has discovered that if they, put, Canadian Celtic and Irish music on my discover weekly, I will listen to it over and over again. And it is very catchy. Like, yes, there is the Dropkick Murphys as like the most, probably the most famous Canadian Celtic band. But there are a lot of them, there are like a surprisingly large number of them.

Evan: 11:51

there's a large Celtic population in Canada. I mean, one of the provinces is literally Nova Scotia, new scout.

Alison: 12:01

yes.

Evan: 12:01

There are Celts in Scotland to, um, the non-selling selling. But when I went to Ireland and I'm sure some of this is going to get cut out, but whatever. Um, when I went to Ireland, we walked into a pub one night to get dinner. And there was this singer with a beautiful voice doing traditional Irish music. And we had, we were basically had a guide with us. and he said, that's not, you don't normally see that in it. And look after one lady after she's done, we look at talk with her ASCO. Oh, she's from Nova Scotia. She's not from Ireland. She's of Irish descent. It was plate learned. The music decided she wanted to go to Ireland and sing it properly. And it was playing Irish music in Ireland and getting big tips and comp like big, um, tips as well as cheers from actual Irish people singing in Irish, in actual Irish pubs and counting. Her mother. She was very

Alison: 12:55

awesome.

Evan: 12:56

She was very, very good. Let's use a professional singer, but she went to the place where the music was based and was killing it.

Alison: 13:02

I'm here for it.

Evan: 13:03

I mean, it was not music. Like you'd sing in a big venue. This is the stuff you get in the traditional stuff you get in part in small pops. It's like, oh no, she's good. Um, somewhere my dad has her CD because of course we bought it.

Alison: 13:17

Very good.

Evan: 13:18

Okay. I did not get any tortillas this year because my pancreas hates me and I live alone.

Alison: 13:22

That's very rude of your pancreas. You should tell it to stop.

Evan: 13:25

I've been trying to for five years.

Alison: 13:28

No, you don't want it to stop. You want it to go?

Evan: 13:30

Yeah. So I'm trying to get it to stop. I'm trying to get it going again. I've been working on that for five years.

Alison: 13:36

Grey's anatomy earlier. It would be really great if they could get those mini livers working.

Evan: 13:42

No, I don't know the TV show. I just know that it is natural anatomical tat spot,

Alison: 13:46

Yes.

Evan: 13:47

and that it is a TV show.

Alison: 13:49

yeah, in the TV show, Meredith gray, who's the title character that works on a project to a. Basically, there's a thing they can do, in life where cases, where they can like use certain cells from the liver to like make fake mini pancreases and

Evan: 14:12

I think it's the other way around. So what they do that is a natural thing, for pancreatic cancer, they'll harvest healthy cells from the pancreas and inject them into the liver. That is a real thing. Steve jobs had that done except he had it done.

Alison: 14:25

Yeah. So they try and do it in Grey's anatomy is like a treatment for diabetics.

Evan: 14:30

Yeah. So not really. It that's, to my knowledge and incorrect use of the treatment

Alison: 14:36

Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that

Evan: 14:38

show first

Alison: 14:39

TV. That's why I said it would be really nice if it, that word, but I don't think it at all. Does they, they talk about a lot of things medically where. I don't know, I am not a doctor, but something seems a little bit off.

Evan: 14:55

Uh, that same, I'm also not adopter. They have a gym.

Alison: 15:04

Jim, I'm an engineer, not a doctor. Uh, it's a reference to a star Trek, the original series.

Evan: 15:15

I hope all our listeners get that reference. Otherwise.

Alison: 15:18

If you haven't seen that, then, uh, I am thrilled that we have the opportunity to introduce you to it.

Evan: 15:27

Yeah.

Alison: 15:28

Uh, but you should go watch it.

Evan: 15:29

yes, no, I haven't really watched the original series in awhile cause I was just watching well, if Jeffery watching TNG and Voyager.

Alison: 15:36

Yes, Well, Ajer is by far my favorite at the star Trek series. we are doing a bad job talking about prem today.

Evan: 15:46

Yes, we are

Alison: 15:47

We're doing like an especially bad job of talking about term today. I am also very tired.

Evan: 15:53

when we're tired, especially on Sundays, uh, we'd have more tangents,

Alison: 15:58

Yes.

Evan: 15:58

though interestingly, and this may be a tangent that gets cut out there. You had texted us. So this is the 23rd year I or 23rd season. I've skied.

Alison: 16:08

Okay.

Evan: 16:09

for the first time somebody tried to convert me to Mormonism on the left

Alison: 16:16

That's the first.

Evan: 16:17

because, I will let you get on the lift with other people frequently. You'll have a short conversation mostly about how's how's your day going? What's the, what are you seeing? How are conditions sort of thing. But, so this guy is, I don't live with three other people. They're clearly already in the conversation. So I don't interrupt. And he's saying, oh, in Hebrew they've got, every letter is worth a number he's sort of poorly explaining gematria and say, oh, you mean, so I interrupt and say, oh, you mean gematria? Yeah. So how he has, oh yes. I can never remember the term. How do you know about it? I said, well, I'm Jewish. He said, oh, I'm a linguist. Okay.

Alison: 16:52

Yeah, well,

Evan: 16:55

He works for the LDS church,

Alison: 16:56

classic.

Evan: 17:00

If you want the Samaritans, those still have Passover sacrifices.

Alison: 17:03

yes,

Evan: 17:04

All 800 of them.

Alison: 17:06

Yeah. I mean, I guess, whatever floats their boat.

Evan: 17:15

Yeah. I mean the biggest difference between some, between temple Judaism and Samaritan ism is a geographic disagree.

Alison: 17:25

Sorry, say that again?

Evan: 17:27

The biggest difference between temple Judaism and Samaritan ism is a geographic disagreement.

Alison: 17:35

I think there's more than that though. Isn't there. I don't know much about Samaritans. I know they kind of said, like, we don't care about rabbinic Judaism. We're just gonna,

Evan: 17:46

Well, yeah, they don't care about rabbinic Jew, but they split off

Alison: 17:50

They spin off a long time ago and they

Evan: 17:52

well, well before

Alison: 17:53

we'll be four temple times.

Evan: 17:55

the first temple.

Alison: 17:57

yes. Well before like typical times versus not temple. times

Evan: 18:01

Yeah. So they, they believe, I can't remember what the, what the mountain has told, but it's further north for anyone who doesn't know. And you can read it for a sheet if instead, if you want to know this. So the temple is built where theoretically Abraham was going to, or at least where tradition states that Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac. Right.

Alison: 18:24

Yeah. Uh, there's a bunch of things about the mountain that are important. Um, and like, not just in Judaism. Uh,

Evan: 18:33

Oh yeah. But I've talked to going back far enough for the disagreement between Jews and Samaritans.

Alison: 18:39

Yes. I was going to say, you can also check out the information about the church of the holy Sepulchre if you're

Evan: 18:45

Yes. That, there's a lot of interesting history behind that in all honesty.

Alison: 18:49

Oh yeah.

Evan: 18:49

but so the, the Samaritans believe it was a different mountain, further north in Israel and they still have their temple there and they still have sacrifices.

Alison: 18:58

yeah. I think they also like. also have some different, weird histories.

Evan: 19:05

Oh Yeah.

Alison: 19:07

like you've heard the story of the good Samaritan, um, and they show up in different like random places. So, I am not an expert in any way, shape or form on them.

Evan: 19:20

Nor am I, but that, that is my knowledge of the differences. So they still practice something closer to temple Judaism than modern rabbinic shoes, which include basically average, who you will ever meet

Alison: 19:30

yeah.

Evan: 19:31

at junction and say, basically, I should say, every Jew you will ever meet,

Alison: 19:34

yes. Every day you will meet,

Evan: 19:37

no, the chair rights are still repent. You can argue that.

Alison: 19:42

I don't think I've ever met anybody who identified themselves as a carrot.

Evan: 19:47

but they exist. Uh,

Alison: 19:49

just don't think you're going to come across

Evan: 19:50

you know, but the beta Israel are technically, I think were Bennett as well, the terror, right? Or not the terrorists, the Kaflan Jews are definitely rabbinic. Um, so I'm trying to think of what, of, what are any of the other dive sporadic communities that might

Alison: 20:05

Benny Israel or rabbinic.

Evan: 20:09

I think pretty much every,

Alison: 20:11

Yeah. I don't know of any who aren't

Evan: 20:14

the only ones who aren't aren't Jewish because they're messianic and those are crazy.

Alison: 20:19

antics Oh, my it's running. It's it's uh, it's water from the sky. I think it's gotta be running

Evan: 20:28

Um,

Alison: 20:29

degree

Evan: 20:30

I don't think it needs to be running bass to be

Alison: 20:32

or it's gotta be fallen water

Evan: 20:33

fall in water. Yeah. Snow can count.

Alison: 20:36

somewhat. Yeah. Uh, the ocean counts as a McCullough. Cause it gets water from the sky. It doesn't have to be a ton of water from the sky. It's got to get some and it has to be like X number of square cubits or something.

Evan: 20:48

Yeah. So for anyone who is Christian and says, oh, that sounds like baptism. Where do you think you got it from?

Alison: 20:53

Yeah. I have totaled Tocqueville and being like. You wash things, basically, you do like a ritual wash. I have total things in lake Michigan before I have done it. I've also used the Atlantic ocean.

Evan: 21:11

like Mr. Nunes, a little cleaner, a little fresher.

Alison: 21:15

But when you live in Florida, it's a little easier to access the Atlantic ocean than it is to access lake Michigan. Just a teeny tiny bit.

Evan: 21:23

That's true. That is true. I mean, I can do it if I need to clean anything it's snowing right now, so I can go use fresh snow. Um,

Alison: 21:35

well, I think, I don't know. You might have to find like a snow melt pond or something

Evan: 21:39

No, I purchased, I've seen on Instagram, a rabbi talked about how no fresh snow doesn't have to be melted eight counts and it's a kabod rabbi, so

Alison: 21:48

not know that.

Evan: 21:49

I'm taking it like, so definitely any of the other rabbis I would listen to we'll take that. But, um, we're not getting into the denominations, isn't the right term, but it's

Alison: 22:00

not talking about, uh, about Hussey dude versus, uh, midnight them. we're not doing

Evan: 22:07

we're not doing that at least not today.

Alison: 22:10

Yeah. We'll do it another time. I think we've brought it up before.

Evan: 22:13

Yeah. But um, more, it is a rabbi who is more observant of traditional, alpha than I am.

Alison: 22:21

yeah,

Evan: 22:22

That, that is that, that is more than enough,