Episode 15: New Years

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https://www.lifestyleasia.com/kl/culture/events/unique-new-years-eve-traditions/ 

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Evan 0:00

Welcome to episode 15 of She Brews is Hebrews is Jewish fermentation podcast, where we hope to discuss all things homebrewing for implementing today. We are talking about new years. I'm your host, Evan Harris. And with me today is my co-host Allison Shea.

Alison 0:13

Hi there. How you doing

Evan 0:16

Uh, your J.

Alison 0:19

Oh, it's been an interesting time for both of us.

Evan 0:25

Uh, yeah. Yeah. We'll, uh, not say much more than that.

Alison 0:30

Yeah. Well, as Evan mentioned, our theme today is new year's because, this will be our last episode of 2021. as of when we were recording it, we're recording it on, December 20th, 2021. So. The next episode goes up in two weeks. It will be 2022,

Evan 0:55

Yes, it will be after, as I'm sure you and many of our listeners have seen the threads about, explaining the more. Well known holidays as if they are minority holidays by a Jew who knows it all, or Jew has it all on Twitter.

Alison 1:14

Yes. it's excellent. Oh my God.

Evan 1:17

So

Alison 1:17

that in the show notes.

Evan 1:19

that will be linked to the show notes, but they also produced the website called Greg Cal. So our next episode will be after the 20th and 29th of which is also Christian Russia, Shanna.

Alison 1:28

Yes. Thank you for that handy. Read a translation. You never know when you're going to have to explain to a Christian about debit.

Evan 1:39

I will link both the threads because they're wonderful and graduate Cal, because it's also wonderful. on that end for anyone it's not Danny, it's the Gregorian calculator, as opposed to the Hebrew calendar calculator,

Alison 1:51

Oh, yeah, I'm sorry, F and I'm going to need a Julian calendar calculator also

Evan 1:56

I believe they're working on

Alison 1:58

It's not going to cut it. Okay. There

Evan 1:59

Yes, just to make sure our Eastern Orthodox listeners understand it as well.

Alison 2:03

Yes. Thank you very much.

Evan 2:05

Yes. I'm sorry that those threads are great, but most of the cultures use the Gregorian calendar for new year's.

Alison 2:16

well, there are other new years, which I guess is a topic That we've discussed previously with Russia, Shana, but again, Well, actually to bring up, a side tangent into Talmudic, new years there actually for Jewish new years, there is the new year for the year, which would be, the one that we celebrate, on, in the fall usually. and that's, that's when we start counting the years, the first month. So we count the year from then, but the first month is actually Nissan in the Jewish calendar. So the months and the years don't start at the same points. And that has to do with, um, when the Jews left Egypt,

Evan 3:04

correct.

Alison 3:06

So that's two new years. There's also in the tone, would they talk a lot about new years for the Kings? So they counted a separate year. That was, how taxes were done and all that jazz. and that was done based off of the. the new year for the Kings. and you also have a two-ish fat, which we'll talk about not too long from now. and new year for the trees is, you'll often see it translated as Jewish Arbor day, which is kind of a. Weird one. but remembering that it is an agricultural society, or remembering that like the Jews way back when we're an agricultural society, it makes sense that they would have a new year entirely based off of, when the trees start flowering and when, when the growing season begins, because it's really one of the cornerstones of their society. It's I mean, so much. So many of the Jewish holidays really revolve around this being an agricultural society. Talking about the harvest festivals, talking about when you do your pilgrimages to give sacrifices at different points in the harvest, and to celebrate the harvest, we talked about previously, sacrificing. at SIM high-paid Hushmail Eva, where you give water on the altering, you pray for water in the new year, because everything you're doing is to support this agricultural society, which I think is really Cool.

Evan 4:38

As do I, and I think, finding a lot of the connections to the, country ancient and continuing agricultural part of Judaism is a big part of what we end ended up discussing whether we intended or not. But a lot of people who might be confused by the various new years, in Judaism, there are various new years. The people are used to in secular American society. The fiscal year begins on September.

Alison 5:04

Yup.

Evan 5:05

So there you're already used to various new years, whether you realize it or not

Alison 5:09

Yeah, it's just. You know, you're keeping track of different things. You use different start points and, you know, we might have different start points now, but at the end of the day, it's, it's all the same thing. We just choose different things that are the most important for us to mark these days.

Evan 5:28

Absolutely. And throughout the world, there are a ton of new year's traditions for whichever new year's you would like to celebrate. And we've of course, thoughts about the Rachana ones, but for the relatively secular new years, we've got a few different ones.

Alison 5:45

Yeah, which again, there's lots of history, surrounding why we call this The new year and it is based off of. Okay. The version that I understand, and I know that there are some, some people who would debate this, but, the new year as it is now is a week after the birth of, what was historically the birth of the, Sungod myth, Ross, Mithra, Mithras, Common Roman God of the sun, worshiped heavily in the Roman empire. And, his birthday, which is now December 25th, was kind of taken over by the Christians or they moved, they moved the date of Jesus's birth for, for convenience purposes, essentially.

Evan 6:32

The celebration of myths, rasa believe was satin Saturn.

Alison 6:36

Yeah.

Evan 6:38

which was celebrated in conjunction with the solstice. Many Northern hemisphere traditions have holidays of celebration and or light in this time of year.

Alison 6:50

Yeah. And it's the darkest part of the year. So having this, oh, this is the birth of the son is kind of, kind of cool. but anyways, the Christians moved to the birth of Jesus and, and a week after that, They celebrate the new year. and I remember reading somewhere about how April fool's day. Was April fool's day because that used to be when they celebrated a new year. And, and when it was moved, it was like, this is the new like, oh, you forgot that, that they moved the new year to a new date and making fun of that.

Evan 7:31

So it's a little, it's a little more complex because January being the beginning of the new year does date back to Roman times. Whereas the April fools tradition dates back to 16th century France they're Grigor places as they adopted the Gregorian calendar, replacing the Julian calendar and other local calendars frequently would change when had something more similar. We use for the Hebrew calendar where the months might start in January, but the year rolls over somewhere else.

Alison 8:06

Once you get a little later, France decides they've got their own stuff going on. talk about The month of Thermador.

Evan 8:13

The yes. What were some of the other ones? The metric times, the weirdest thing, but, for example, March 1st was the first day of a new year in the Republic of Venice until they adopted the Gregorian calendar with the destruction of Venice. Well, the Republic of Venice, Russia, Used, I believe September 1st. So I've had to lay fiscal new year. but the, the months of the year started in January still.

Alison 8:45

I just copy and the Jews,

Evan 8:46

Yes, but, but April,

Alison 8:48

idea first.

Evan 8:49

April was when the year rolled over in France and April fools, also something to do with a fish.

Alison 8:56

Yeah. I

Evan 8:57

have you do with a fish? I remember my high school friends last that much.

Alison 9:01

I took care of back. So I'm no help there. Yeah. I was going to say something and I don't remember what it was. Anyways, new years,

Evan 9:13

Yes.

Alison 9:13

thing that's happening that we're supposed to be talking about.

Evan 9:17

Correct. Quite a few fermented traditions.

Alison 9:20

Yes. I was looking up some fermented traditions for new years, and talking about history and Rome, but, some German speaking countries, further north, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, they traditionally make, Berliner donuts, which are kind of similar to, to the soup we had for Hanukkah, not too long ago. they fill them with all sorts of stuff, but it's a yeast risen donut. and also there's a German sparkling wine called that I might be mispronouncing that. but I'd love to try that. I, I kind of want to see if I can get my hands on that. And, I'm going to say this wrong. Somebody is going to correct me or fewer Sangin. Bullae. Fewer

Evan 10:10

It's probably a few fewer is my best pronunciation.

Alison 10:16

I guess,

Evan 10:18

What does this.

Alison 10:20

Flaming fire tongues punch, which sounds. Delicious. I don't know who came up with the idea for that. but, it's also called the burnt punch, which is maybe a less exciting

Evan 10:36

So I have heard of, I have of some burnt punches before, especially in a new Orleans speciality called cafe Brulay or cafe.

Alison 10:46

Yeah. Well, The ingredients for this, probably going to sound a little familiar given some of our past episodes, but ingredients are oranges, lemons, red wine, cinnamon, cloves, ginger, grounded, sugar and brown room at least 54% alcohol.

Evan 11:05

Yup.

Alison 11:06

So what would you describe that as,

Evan 11:09

I would describe it as a very tasty punch.

Alison 11:11

uh huh.

Evan 11:13

I love I've made punch a punch for one not long ago. Um, while recording my other podcasts, uh, I almost bought more to make it tonight, but punches a wonderful thing to make for yourself. And that sounds like a delicious recipe. And if you get some fire in it, it sounds fun, but of course, be safe. Have a fire extinguisher only monotasker you should have in your kitchen.

Alison 11:37

there is, there is some lighting on fire involved in this recipe. So I am going to send, or give Evan, a recipe to go in the show notes so that if you would like to make your, fewer Zang in bowl, uh, By yourself or whatever. Uh, you're welcome to, and let us know how it is. Cause it sounds real tasty.

Evan 12:04

Oh, yeah. I, it's not something that I've had, but, uh, whether it's for new year's or not, I'm going to make that at some point.

Alison 12:11

It is apparently a type of glue. Am I saying that right?

Evan 12:17

Uh, where are you reading that?

Alison 12:21

G L U with an

Evan 12:25

Probably glued. We've talked about Luke.

Alison 12:29

hold on. This is how the word I am trying to say is spelled glue glue,

Evan 12:37

Um,

Alison 12:38

with an H w E I N.

Evan 12:40

yes, it just means

Alison 12:42

It's a traditional mold wine. with a rum soaked sugar, but I don't speak German. And I think it sounds read in German and German just has some great ways of expressing things.

Evan 12:55

German much lucky due to their shared similarities have very good ways of expressing things.

Alison 13:00

Yeah. it's great. Also very similar to Greek in the way that they just kind of shoved some words together to make new words. And it's you get some, you get, you know, strips or which is my favorite Greek word. Anyways, side note, One other, common fermented tradition, in the German speaking countries and, in Europe. is reckless, which is a very tasty cheese. You basically chop a wheel in half. it's a big wheel, kind of like a Swiss cheese. and you melt the cheese layer by layer and scrape it up and put It on all sorts of things. And it's just, it's basically toasted, melted Swiss cheese.

Evan 13:42

It is very good.

Alison 13:45

it's ooey and gooey. And, uh, not like a particularly out there cheese, it's not like super tangy or super or anything. It's just like a really straightforward Swiss cheese. It might technically be a type of Swiss cheese, but

Evan 14:04

believe it can come from either Switzerland or Francis Alpine either way, but it's really.

Alison 14:09

But it's, it's just like a, a very mild, well melting cheese that toasts swell and it like oozes and toasts. And you can put it on bread. You can put it on, you can scoop it up with things it's it's delicious. And I would strongly recommend,

Evan 14:27

Boiled potatoes or another traditional thing it's served with?

Alison 14:30

yes,

Evan 14:31

there is a restaurant near me that does fireside raclette. I haven't been there yet though, but I have had raclette recently.

Alison 14:39

Yes, correct?

Evan 14:40

You should visit him. We can go.

Alison 14:43

Yes. But first my teeth have to stop hurting.

Evan 14:46

That's true.

Alison 14:47

That's that's kind of priority one right now. I would like for my teeth to stop hurting.

Evan 14:52

Understandable.

Alison 14:54

This is when I get for not going into the dentist through all of COVID.

Evan 14:58

Yeah. I

Alison 14:59

Anyways folks go to the dentist. Don't be like, Alison, go to the dentist. I, I mean, I did historically go to the dentist, but you know, holding your mouth open front of a stranger is kind of nerve wracking these days anyways.

Evan 15:19

Yeah, just a little,

Alison 15:21

Yeah. go visit your friendly local dental professional.

Evan 15:26

Yes. Take care

Alison 15:27

you were saying

Evan 15:28

those. I was going to ask, what was your, you had your, you said your favorite word in Greek? I didn't record. that would know, oh, I was trying to break it down scientifically,

Alison 15:41

I at one point could have told you the breakdown

Evan 15:45

but what does it mean?

Alison 15:47

cunning villainy in the perversion of justice.

Evan 15:50

Sounds like a worthy ancient Greeks definitely would have given their, given their vast number of.

Alison 15:55

Yup.

Evan 15:56

Yeah. I'm

Alison 15:56

It's a great word.

Evan 15:58

a little rusty on my scientific Greek, which is how I mow. No, most of my Greek and Latin though, I can ask how much I can't ask him. What's the puppy is in Latin.

Alison 16:07

I love that. Yeah. Okay. Moving onto Greek.

Evan 16:11

Yeah. You found a Greek bread.

Alison 16:13

Yes, which sounds very tasty. it is called VUSs Cielo, PETA, fussy, little Bessie Lopez. I don't know where the accents are. I saw it well anyways, I also don't know modern Greek. I should mention that I am strictly in the old non-spoken version.

Evan 16:38

I only know modern grade

Alison 16:39

curved letters on a tablet, please.

Evan 16:43

I only know the Greek you counter at a restaurant.

Alison 16:46

Yeah, anyways, it's a great new year as bread, made in on the story that I found was made in honor of an act of charity by St. Basil to the poor and the needy of his flock in order to ensure that the needy would have money for life's necessities and knowing this. St. Basal had the ladies of the church in the town, bake this sweet bread with coins in them, and he would hand out the bread and that way people would get money in this bread. and not feel like they were taking charity it's oh, I'm giving you this lovely loaf of holiday bread. and, Hmm, this is part of the fun of eating a holiday, brightest. You get a coin and whoever finds the coin is, has, is blessed or whatever. It's like finding, It's like finding me, isn't it. a baby. in a King's cake.

Evan 17:37

It's a baby. And the things take, which is, in America, it's most common in new Orleans, but it is also common in various parts of Europe, including Spain, which I know. Thanks to great British bake-off.

Alison 17:49

Yep. for those who don't know, in the states, at least a king, his cake is made it's, it's made in new Orleans for Mardi Gras, which is fat Tuesday. again, this is a Jewish pod guests. So just

Evan 18:02

It's the beginning of,

Alison 18:05

of lint.

Evan 18:05

I was going to say Christian, Omar, number two,

Alison 18:08

Yes. It's the beginning of the Christian version of the.

Evan 18:11

the second one, they've got the fruit. We're in the midst of the first one right now.

Alison 18:15

Okay. What's the first one. Oh, right, right.

Evan 18:18

Which I still don't know what it's about, but I know it's a thing.

Alison 18:21

They're just like counting down until Jesus is born,

Evan 18:24

True. And then tell his bris, I

Alison 18:27

Yes. And then until his bris. Okay. This drives me up the wall. The 12 days of Christmas come the after Christmas.

Evan 18:37

I know,

Alison 18:38

And every movie marathon starts beforehand.

Evan 18:42

I know.

Alison 18:43

ABC family. You're doing it wrong.

Evan 18:46

Oh, yeah,

Alison 18:48

I don't know. I

Evan 18:49

this is the whole thing. I don't know.

Alison 18:52

I don't

Evan 18:52

I don't watch much.

Alison 18:53

watch the streaming services

Evan 18:55

Yeah. Watch streaming service. The only, the only thing I watched live is sports

Alison 19:00

Yeah.

Evan 19:01

and most of them are postponed. At least the teams that want to watch

Alison 19:04

Yeah, we'll leave. So sticking around in Canada for now

Evan 19:08

the season should just be put on hold in my.

Alison 19:11

again? Yeah.

19:13

Update. It was postponed until after. The Christmas break for the day, NHL.

Alison 19:20

Anyways. Okay. St. Basil's bread is the literal translation of Cielo PETA, PETA, meaning bread. As you may have guessed. And we have a recipe for that too. So you're welcome to check out. yeah. here's another weekend. Another alcohol here go into, hopping over another continent, to Japan.

Evan 19:46

The land of the rising sun

Alison 19:48

Yes. one of the first ones to celebrate the January 1st new year, not in terms of like how long they've been celebrating it, as in like they see the beginning, like time zones.

Evan 20:01

it is one of it is the one of these. One of the first major countries, at least major in the cultural zeitgeist in the west, that, that is wet going from the international Dateline New Zealand would be first is pretty much first, except for some very small island nations. But first you have the giant nation actually, no, the Indonesia would be after. So yeah, it is one of the very first nations after, the Kiwis and Aussies.

Alison 20:29

Amen. New Zealand just kinda beats pretty much everybody. Who's the first to deal with this New Zealand? well, I mean, unless you're counting like. It's funny.

Evan 20:45

Vanuatu changed. Oh, which side of the international Dateline there

Alison 20:49

No, Fiji

Evan 20:50

Fiji is Fiji was the one that changed.

Alison 20:52

Fiji is the one who I'm thinking of.

Evan 20:53

Yeah.

Alison 20:55

Yeah. Well, you've got a list. That's like looking at a map now. Cook island, French Polynesia, which side of the international date. Oh, here we go. I'm looking at the Dateline. This is. Yeah. so Fiji would be early. it looks like French Polynesia and these tiny, these islands called Nuku Hiva and Hiva Iowa. I'm sorry if I'm mangling the name of this, basically parts of French Polynesia.

Evan 21:31

Papa new Guinea would be affectively the same time as Japan as would Indonesia. And the Philippines would be later along with the Koreas and we don't need to list all countries by, their, time zones.

Alison 21:45

yes. But, I was incorrect. French Polynesia is on the opposite. It is on the far side of the Dateline.

Evan 21:51

Interesting.

Alison 21:52

Yeah. There's like a funny bump out, but they're actually.

Evan 21:57

Yeah.

Alison 21:58

they're, they're actually past Hawaii. So I was very wrong. I'm looking at a map, Google maps, but it's like a little hard when you're scrolling it little island countries. So I apologize. I am clearly not very good at doing Google maps.

Evan 22:15

Yeah. So it was a cure. A boss might be first technically.

Alison 22:19

Yeah Well, Fiji is pretty close anyways. Back to Japan

Evan 22:25

Yes.

Alison 22:26

it depends, a new year's day tradition is to, pass spiked soccer, which is called, again, I do not speak Japanese. I apologize if I'm mispronouncing this. that's how, at least my understanding would be that it would be pronounced. Oh, Tosoh uh, so you share it between family members and you pass it between multiple generations from oldest to youngest. and wait, this is not right. Okay. I think this paragraph is says something backwards, where I looked up this information., but anyways, the idea is that the elders can absorb the youth and vitality from their descendants. which is interesting.

Evan 23:14

Absolutely.

Alison 23:15

that's just a.

Evan 23:17

And apparently also in Japan, I don't know if it is around the, Asian lunar new year or the Gregorian new year, but you don't throw out the trash for several days, which is that we'll be throwing out the good luck of the new year.

Alison 23:31

Well, I would like lots of luck in the new year for 2022. Hopefully it is a better and healthier year for the world.

Evan 23:40

I fully agree.

Alison 23:42

and, also worth noting as I have basically been telling kind of everybody, the Gulf will go was burned a few days ago.

Evan 23:51

I love that tradition. It is not an actual tradition, but it is a tradition.

Alison 23:56

Okay. So basically this society, in the town of gavel, Sweden, way back when. No way back when I believe it was the fifties.

Evan 24:08

Yeah.

Alison 24:08

anyways, they started building this giant straw goat, and, people started burning it.

Evan 24:15

Sometimes it is an accident though, but people started farming.

Alison 24:18

Yes, it has collapsed under its own weight before. the ratios with snow, like got stolen once so many, just straight up, stole the dang Gallagher and mind you, this thing is 42 feet high.

Evan 24:37

Yeah.

Alison 24:38

Oh. So it started in 1966

Evan 24:41

It's been damaged 38 times.

Alison 24:43

It's been damaged 38 times, but the excitement about the golf will go by the way, burning the Goggle goat is basically a felony in Sweden, which is a side note, But people, do it

Evan 24:55

But people, people think that it's not because they think it's just the challenge, but no, it is an actual crime.

Alison 25:00

Yeah. they've had dos attacks. They've had like all sorts of kidnappings and there's all sorts of wild. It's absolutely wild. Do you think at this point they'd be kind of resigned. The thing's going to get burned down, but. Every year something happens. They increase security more and more because they don't want the thing to get burned down, even though that's literally half the alert or the dang thing. Anyways, the novel go was last burned in our damaged in 2016. And, since 2016, the streak from 2017 to 2020 of the gavel goat not being damaged. Pretty much the longest streak they've had ever or in a long time. so, world's been kind of extra messed up since 2016.

Evan 25:54

Yeah,

Alison 25:55

So people are kind of saying, hopefully the Gulf will go getting burned down is a good news thing, but you know, this is, this is how religions get started. So who knows what's going to happen next?

Evan 26:09

Yeah, I, do you, do you know about Tom Scott on YouTube?

Alison 26:13

No, is he the guy and He's not history of Japan guy.

Evan 26:17

no, that's a bill, something there. Tom Scott is, amazing places. some things you might not know, what else, citation needed.

Alison 26:28

Uh,

Evan 26:29

So agitation, YouTube, but he did a while ago, he did a video about the Daleville goats and I, and he recorded. He went there to try and make sure it was still up. When he went, it was by the time he landed back in London, it had burned.

Alison 26:45

That's beautiful. I love

Evan 26:47

but I will link his video. I really like his videos in general, but I will link his video in the show notes.

Alison 26:52

Yeah. Awesome. Anyways, there's a surprisingly low. There's a lot of hi-jinks surrounding this one, strong goat In Sweden,

Evan 27:02

In a small town in Sweden.

Alison 27:04

in a small town in Sweden, I believe Andreas Yon centers from there. Double-check that, but former Toronto maple leaf. Andrea CLLs. I believe that was born is from gavel. Sweden.

Evan 27:20

Nicholas Backstrom is from, Java.

Alison 27:24

Yes. He's from gavel. Sweden, born Donald Sweden. Oh, he is also, three and a half months younger than me. That's so weird.

Evan 27:32

Kelly which I've never who plays for Nashville? Yes. That's uh, Oscar Lynn Brum of the flyers, uh, unders Lynn buck, uh, Elias Lynn home, Christian dubious.

Alison 27:48

Hey, Evan. Is it possible that gavel is a slightly larger town than we thought it

Evan 27:54

I think it is, but granted, there are also tiny towns in Nova Scotia that have produced like 30 hockey.

Alison 28:00

I believe the tiny town in Nova Scotia has produced two, but they are very good.

Evan 28:05

There are other towns that they've produced blessed, notable names, but yes, there they're two of the best players on ice are from one.

Alison 28:11

We're talking about coal Harbor, Nova Scotia, which is where Sidney Crosby and, Nathan MacKinnon are both from,

Evan 28:19

Correct.

Alison 28:20

it's like a teeny tiny little town,

Evan 28:23

I'm looking to see if there are any other notable, really notable people.

Alison 28:26

but anyways, Let's get back to our previous list.

Evan 28:31

Let's see how, let me just go.

Alison 28:33

Moving on from the gavel goat. We got

Evan 28:34

Davo only has 96,000 people in it. That's pretty small

Alison 28:39

yeah.

Evan 28:40

in the Metro. No, not the city itself is 75. That's pretty small.

Alison 28:47

fun thing about, one thing that many of us have done is have a champagne toast. some argue that drinking, champagne on new year's Eve is Tricia. And that goes back to the time of Julius Caesar. That was presumably probably just some really water down one that had something weird in it.

Evan 29:08

Yeah, especially just champagne. Didn't really originate. 1600 years from Caesar or so.

Alison 29:16

But the hold on here is I'm going to link a meshed article, which may or may not be the most accurate. but, The end of the fifth century king Clovis was fighting to defend his territory. And the story goes, he promised his wife, um, that if he was victorious, he would not only become king of all of France, but also become a. I needed to succeed. and he did unite a whole bunch of independent groups under one rule, combined a lot of Christian edicts and Roman rules together, to become what's now France and put together a lot of their laws. Well, this gets baptized in the champagne region of France, and it was a big wild party because king of France and getting baptized and it's, it's a whole big deal. and the wine there kind of became a symbol. So, um, Uh, okay. I don't know why this other article says Julius Caesar. That's incorrect.

Evan 30:27

Uh, yeah, I mean, why the concept of a toast to predates Caesar, but we'd like to say a lot of things started with Caesar because it sounds.

Alison 30:38

Oh yeah. New year's celebrations started with Julius Caesar. That's where that came from.

Evan 30:43

Interesting separate from Saturday Nelia, which

Alison 30:46

Yes.

Evan 30:46

would have been going on for a long time.

Alison 30:49

Yes. Okay. Anyways, we're going to link this but anyways, interesting like ancient or old history. Um,

Evan 31:00

Yeah.

Alison 31:01

About that. what else do I have? Oh Yeah, Evan had one additional new year's tradition that he wanted to add that I was singing earlier, before we started recording. But again, my face hurts. It hurts to laugh. Evan's going to talk about that. Not

Evan 31:22

that's right. no. So the, the one other tradition, especially as we're talking mostly new years is, and I'll quote something you met in a link in the show notes. We start the new year with a very old song

Alison 31:35

frequently.for auld lang syne my dear. Okay. I did think.

Evan 31:42

exactly. All Lang designed, which directly translate says old long since it madly translates to times from by or long time ago is a. Sewn compiled by Robert Burns, the famous Scottish poet who was sell, who is celebrating style and on his birthday, January 24th, good time to drink. but parts of it, date back significantly longer. And it's actually very hard to date it because a lot of date, the song, because a lot of it is about things that have been going on for years, drinking beer with friends, Enjoying the company of your loved ones. It's cetera. And so it is. Very old song about things that have been going on. As long as humanity has existed, pretty much. And all, and John Green taught, wrote up an essay and I'll link to his audio version of that for his podcast. And now nonfiction book, the Anthropocene reviewed. I highly recommend it. Okay. And, but one of the things that I find most more relevant to our podcast, is that this old Lang Syne is one of the oldest written references to splitting the bill, uh, in. The, in one of the ladder stances, it says, and surely you'll buy your pink cup and Shirley I'll buy mine in 10. But I highly recommend that to anyone. Listen to John Greene's, essay on the topic, but that is what I had on anxiety.

Alison 33:15

Yeah. I mean just watching them make funny faces while I stretch my jaw.

Evan 33:24

On one hand, it's entertaining on the other. I know it's not comfortable. but do you have anything else for the podcast today?

Alison 33:31

That's all I got and you know what? She bird Hebrews. Now. It's time for you to pray

Evan 33:41

Absolutely happy, fermenting and happy new year.

Alison 33:44

and be frequenting and happy new year.