Good as Gold's
Good as Gold's
Physique Coach Nicholas Weir on his Journey from International Powerlifter to Aspiring Pro Bodybuilder
Bodybuilder & coach Nicholas Weir joins us on Good as Gold's as he chases his IFBB pro card, aspiring to compete on the Mr. Olympia stage.
In today's episode, we chat through:
- How to set goals
- Changing habits and lifestyle choices
- How to overcome post-show blues
- Training, mindset & recovery
- IFBB Pro League Australia Judging Criteria
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01:29:13:11 - 01:29:22:07
Callum
Welcome back, guys, to another episode of The Good as Gold Podcast. It is your host alongside em now today. And we have a special guest in the studio.
01:29:22:08 - 01:29:33:13
Emily
A special special guest who is joining us in the studio, which we cannot wait to introduce. His name is Nicholas Weir, and he is an aspiring pro IFBB bodybuilder Yep.
01:29:33:19 - 01:29:39:14
Callum
We also have him as an internationally recognized powerlifter, a sports nutritionist.
01:29:39:14 - 01:29:43:07
Emily
Undergrad at Biomed. Like, what can the boy not do Well.
01:29:43:07 - 01:29:48:14
Callum
Let's find out. Nick, welcome to the podcast. It's so good to have you here. It's so good to have you here in person as well.
01:29:48:15 - 01:29:49:09
Emily
Yeah, it feels good.
01:29:49:14 - 01:29:50:14
Nick
Glad to be here. Yeah.
01:29:51:17 - 01:30:01:24
Callum
So we were talking briefly prior to going live. Um, what are your aspirations? What are you aspiring to to be as of right now? What are you working on?
01:30:02:08 - 01:30:26:19
Nick
So currently I'm working away at my bachelor's degree for biomedicine, so I'm doing that at QUT, Queensland University of Technology. Yep. And in addition to that, I'm also working full time as an online coach, delving more into the physique competitive side of things now. Yeah, especially since I made my transition from powerlifting to bodybuilding. It's more of a personal interest so it only makes sense for my business to kind of gravitate in that direction.
01:30:26:20 - 01:30:34:02
Nick
Yeah. And yeah, in addition to that, I'm also working towards attaining my free card in the Ivy League bodybuilding coach.
01:30:34:14 - 01:30:38:20
Callum
Classic physique. So the man himself where he's.
01:30:39:04 - 01:30:40:19
Emily
Yeah, he's got the God.
01:30:40:19 - 01:30:48:10
Callum
Yeah. So just to unpack a little bit from powerlifting competing at an international level.
01:30:48:14 - 01:30:48:22
Nick
Yeah.
01:30:49:01 - 01:30:50:19
Emily
Um, well, what does that look like?
01:30:50:19 - 01:30:54:00
Callum
Yeah. What division what weight division? What were your numbers? Give me some juice.
01:30:54:08 - 01:31:09:22
Nick
Wasn't wasn't that impressive in my opinion. I was quite young at the time, though. I was 20 or 21. Yep. So while now, so one of those and I went to Worlds in Vegas. It was 20. 15. It's pretty good. Yeah.
01:31:10:02 - 01:31:10:23
Emily
Unbelievable.
01:31:11:01 - 01:31:44:09
Nick
I taught at all my last two weeks prior to the competition, so I had to stop deadlifting in that laid up. All right. Which is a bit of a bummer because Dallas is my favorite lift. My strongest lift. Yeah, I did. Was around 270 kilo squat at that competition. I did, I think it was 180 kilogram bench and I was on track for a 300 plus kilo deadlift, but I tore my Terry's major quite severely on my opening deadlift and so I had to just finish my numbers at three 64.
01:31:44:09 - 01:31:53:22
Nick
The Daedalus. Yeah, okay. But I still came first, so I was happy with that. Oh, that's epic. Yeah, but in saying that I should have approached the prep a lot better. Yeah, yeah. Right.
01:31:53:22 - 01:31:55:23
Callum
Well, I mean, so to go to Vegas.
01:31:56:01 - 01:31:57:11
Emily
Yeah, absolutely.
01:31:57:11 - 01:32:11:09
Callum
So lifting weights, that is, that's a very cool feat. And so now it transitioned into like from powerlifting. Now that you're saying on track to getting you obtaining, you broke out, what is what is broken?
01:32:11:24 - 01:32:37:20
Nick
So it's kind of a, I suppose a credential in the bodybuilding community, that kind of is kept exclusive to the best of the best. Yeah. So that was usually one to three pre-college depending on the competition like the show, depending on the part of the year. At a show. Fage kind of cost. Yeah. And yeah, in order to get it, you have to win your, your course in the open.
01:32:37:23 - 01:33:05:03
Nick
Yeah. And, and then basically go to a national like a four club qualifier and then also come first in that typically sometimes I'll waterpark hard to second place I believe or that they might do like first you know opens next in novice. But a lot of the time, especially in Australia, it's just one character so you either the best of the best and you get it or you have to wait an entire season until you can try give it another shot to him.
01:33:05:03 - 01:33:12:01
Nick
Wow. But it allows you to get your foot in the door to then compete at price shows and eventually get to the Olympia stage, which is the end goal for me.
01:33:12:12 - 01:33:13:23
Callum
Do you want to Olympia?
01:33:13:24 - 01:33:21:06
Nick
Oh yeah, yeah. You want to go on the Mr. Olympia stage, so yeah. You set some goals for yourself. You might as well set them as high as possible and then.
01:33:21:10 - 01:33:22:07
Emily
Set the bar high.
01:33:22:10 - 01:33:31:17
Callum
Yeah, I love that. Especially as yourself. You said you're you're an online coach, so um. Yeah, you setting goals is probably a great example for your clients, right?
01:33:31:17 - 01:33:33:01
Nick
Like, yeah. Um.
01:33:33:17 - 01:33:40:07
Callum
Knowing that they can achieve something if they put their mind to it, or at least they have those, you know, goals in place. Like the fundamental. Yeah.
01:33:40:20 - 01:33:45:06
Emily
What does, what does getting to Mr. Olympia mean to you?
01:33:47:09 - 01:34:06:17
Nick
In all honesty, I mean, I think regardless who it is, like if you're a competitor, if you compete in bodybuilding, you're going to have some degree of a competitive streak. Yeah. Like it'll vary from person to person. So I can't deny that. I just want to be the best of the best. I want to win. Yeah. There is that kind of element in me that wants that pure.
01:34:06:17 - 01:34:08:03
Emily
Yeah. That like competitive streak.
01:34:08:03 - 01:34:31:15
Nick
Yeah. Yeah. But also it's kind of a to, to prove it to myself that I can do it. Yeah. Especially if you grow off not thinking that you'll amount too much or having the, the impression that you're just like you can live a, I suppose an averagely good life and, and not kind of get beyond that. Yeah. You kind of really want to try, I suppose, prove yourself wrong in a way.
01:34:32:01 - 01:34:39:23
Nick
Yes. So I may proving myself and if I can get to that stage yeah. It's just a big accomplishment. So yeah. Yeah.
01:34:39:23 - 01:34:43:07
Callum
And where you are now, did you think you'd ever be where you are now back then?
01:34:43:20 - 01:34:45:00
Nick
No. Nah. So you're already.
01:34:45:00 - 01:34:46:20
Callum
Done that you've had that kind of proof. So from.
01:34:47:01 - 01:35:08:14
Nick
Sort of. Yeah, I mean I started lifting about ten years ago. I was 57 kilo. Yeah. Same height that I am now. I had anorexia in high school and if I kept heading down that path, my doctor basically said I would end up in hospital. Well, so I had to kind of. Yeah, turn a page so to speak and yeah.
01:35:08:19 - 01:35:27:24
Nick
Right. My, my wrongdoing that I've done to myself. Yeah. And a lot of it was just, I had a, I suppose I mean most people have some degree of trauma growing up. Yeah. Yeah. But I had a lot of things throughout my childhood where I, I had no control or influence over yeah. And so the outcome was largely outside of my control.
01:35:27:24 - 01:35:51:01
Nick
But when it came to the food that I, yeah, I had 100% control over it. Yeah. So I kind of hyper focused on that and always trying to control my food because it was the only thing that I had to follow in my life at that point in time. Then yeah, it basically just led to me being very self-destructive in my actions and I got quite a lot that people would compliment you saying, Oh, you're looking really good today.
01:35:51:01 - 01:35:56:14
Nick
And yeah, it was kind of positive reinforcement to keep doing what you're doing is.
01:35:56:15 - 01:35:57:17
Emily
Fueling the fire, right?
01:35:57:19 - 01:36:02:10
Nick
Even, even though they obviously feel healing tensions. Yeah, just trying to be polite. Yeah.
01:36:02:21 - 01:36:21:00
Emily
Yeah. What was the pivotal, pivotal moment after you kind of spoke to your doctor and the, you know, your doctor was like, look at say that at the hospital we change something. What was that pivotal point for you? Like, what was going through your mind? You were like, all right, you were this, you know, small kid who was like, Fuck, if I don't change it now.
01:36:21:11 - 01:36:21:18
Nick
Yeah.
01:36:21:24 - 01:36:23:02
Emily
You know, something's going to give.
01:36:23:03 - 01:36:39:07
Nick
Well, it's kind of the doctor just put it very blunt and straight to the point to me, which no one else in my life at the time. Yes. Yeah. No to saying, Oh, you got to stop doing this. It's not healthy. You don't look healthy. But he he was really real with me. And he's like, If you keep doing this in three months, are going to be dead.
01:36:39:08 - 01:36:43:17
Nick
Yeah. And I thought to myself, Okay, well, I don't want to be dead.
01:36:44:01 - 01:36:44:18
Emily
Of course.
01:36:44:24 - 01:36:58:14
Nick
So I was like, okay, I need a, I need to change my ways on signs the, the habits and the lifestyle that I've adopted and instill better healthier, more conducive ones to my overall wellbeing in the long term. So yeah.
01:36:59:09 - 01:37:07:04
Callum
That's yeah, that's insane too. I mean, if you're only listening, this guy is massive, so he's a huge big boy. How much you weigh now?
01:37:07:22 - 01:37:26:15
Nick
A little bit. Lot of his post show. I mean, if I show rebound for off baby body go, there's not so much I see anybody goes and stuff, but you can grow quite a lot. Yeah. In the final phase I I've I've learned up to I think one 16 and off. Yeah. 16.5 kilo you know I'm sitting at about comfortable hundred and ten kilo now.
01:37:26:16 - 01:37:30:00
Nick
Yeah. Cool. Maintain that until I start prep for my next year.
01:37:30:06 - 01:37:56:05
Callum
So back then when you were suffering those things you were looking at yourself and not saying like body dysmorphia in a sense but in a sense of looking at you know physique when you get as lean as you get for a show and you're like damn I'm the best I've ever looked in your vascular and you're just like peeling the little bits of skin when you do so, you get back to your comfortable face.
01:37:56:05 - 01:38:09:23
Callum
Is that hard for you to look in the mirror and be like, I want to be this lean 20 47? Or do you just know realistically that's impossible for you to maintain? Like the shredded nature of it all in question.
01:38:09:23 - 01:38:33:19
Nick
Like, I I know just knowing what I know about human physiology, that it's not sustainable. Yeah, yeah. And we all have what's called this body fat set point, and it can vary from person to person. And it's got to like a range. Like this is it's not like very binary, but rather a continuum. And it's like some individuals can maintain like a, a body fat set point of like say 30 to 15%.
01:38:33:19 - 01:38:55:05
Nick
Like you say, they're more prone to being obese. That's probably where the body's going to be in the happy mood. Yeah. Yeah. Where appetites not dysregulated too much, that sort of thing. They can maintain that while living a relatively comfortable life. But some individuals, so naturally they have a proclivity to being lean they can probably maintain a range of anywhere between like 15 and 8% for example, and be very healthy.
01:38:56:20 - 01:39:14:05
Nick
But knowing what I know about physiology, knowing that my body fat set points somewhere in the life nine to like 13% camp. Yeah, okay. And I can maintain that. But stage conditioning just isn't sustainable yeah. Yeah. A lot of individuals to struggle with it and I think a lot of competitors that's why you get the post show believe.
01:39:14:05 - 01:39:29:22
Nick
Yes. That sort of thing. Like if you've ever seen such a big deal, I know people that I have like they probably you've probably seen them hit rock bottom off. Yeah, yeah yeah. Blow out like eat heaps of food, get depressed and then they look at their photos winner. Yes. And they'd be like, oh, I'm not late enough.
01:39:29:22 - 01:39:43:07
Nick
And they look back and they think, wow. So Leanne, what was I thinking? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's an actual physiological reason for that, I suppose. A psychological reason. As you get Lina to a point like when you get to that kind of like beach body leanness.
01:39:43:07 - 01:39:43:13
Emily
Yeah.
01:39:43:21 - 01:40:10:08
Nick
You notice the positive changes in you like. Okay, you acknowledge that you're very lean and you look good. Yeah. But once you dip below that, your I almost think it's like an evolutionary like mechanism that's built in to kind of prevent us from getting to. Yeah. Because obviously any organisms underlying underpinning goal is to survive. Yeah. So if we try to threaten that too much by manipulating the environment the human physiology is going to try to fight against it.
01:40:10:09 - 01:40:25:10
Nick
Yeah. I think one of the ways that does that, in addition to regulating appetite, increasing ghrelin and dropping leptin levels, when we get to lean it also stops psychological flying with us and being like, Okay, I don't look good. I might as well dislike it. All the food.
01:40:25:10 - 01:40:51:08
Emily
Yes, yes. And do you find that like and so like I think as well with people competing, if they don't if they really, really want to win or if they really want to place and they don't, that also like contributes to that kind of like post. So blues and that sort of stuff. And it's like how do you actually handle if there is or there has been a show where, you know, you haven't placed or gotten first, it's like, how do you deal with that?
01:40:52:01 - 01:41:18:23
Nick
Ah, I think a big part of it is making sure you set realistic expectation prior to prep. Yeah, but I kind of setting out to prep for the show because a lot of, a lot of, you know, what happens post-show is predetermined by how you go into the actual prep itself. I think. So setting realistic, tangible goals that are attainable or at least perceivable attainable.
01:41:18:23 - 01:41:40:04
Nick
Yeah. Provided that you tick all the boxes and leave no stone unturned. Like if you, if you don't have bicep peaks like Arnold Schwarzenegger and if you don't find that your biceps are quite responsive to growing setting an off season goal of like getting your biceps like 13 inches bigger in like 12 to 20 months is just ridiculous.
01:41:40:04 - 01:41:58:11
Nick
Yeah. Yeah. Or like if you're, if you know your you're doing your first show, then probably going in the expectation of I'm going to just clean up the entire competition. Yeah it's probably I mean it can happen at the end of the day like we can't deny there's always that statistical anomaly or that that outlying chance that you do do that.
01:41:58:11 - 01:42:29:01
Nick
But yeah, the odds are largely against you in those kind of circumstances and I think yeah, just setting realistic goals. Yeah. But dealing with it, if it's already happened, that's another whole like, yeah. Creature in itself. It's like you kind of have to reflect a bit of self-reflection of like, okay, well these were my goals and really kind of assess and sit down with yourself in the now and like ask yourself, were they realistic or did I just really dropped the ball and just didn't put in enough effort?
01:42:29:01 - 01:42:32:24
Nick
Like, well, what was the, what was the common denominator? Yeah.
01:42:34:01 - 01:42:37:24
Callum
Um, would you say you are competitive in nature?
01:42:39:02 - 01:42:46:10
Nick
I was never a competitive kid. Like, I was always that kid, those kind of just off doing his own thing. Like, I'd wasn't really too concerned with.
01:42:47:09 - 01:42:48:19
Emily
Like, sports and stuff like that.
01:42:48:19 - 01:43:05:09
Nick
Yeah, yeah. Like I was active kid and stuff like that. Like, dude, surf lifesaving. Did you did participate in quite a few different sports, but I, I never kind of had that appeal when I was younger too. But I think around puberty was where I kind of got that competitive. Yeah, probably where a lot of guys do get it.
01:43:05:09 - 01:43:19:03
Nick
Like they get a little bit more testy in the. Yeah, okay. And I do think testosterone drives a lot of motivation for men. Yeah. I think that's a big part of the reason why a lot of guys tend to be overly competitive or at least more competitive than the the main, I suppose. Yeah.
01:43:19:08 - 01:43:33:02
Callum
The reason I also ask is in, uh, like a competitive sense in bodybuilding, it's, it's like physique subjective. Yeah. It's so subjective and it's not like I run faster than you, therefore I win.
01:43:33:02 - 01:43:33:12
Emily
Yes.
01:43:33:12 - 01:43:35:00
Nick
Like the judges like me.
01:43:35:00 - 01:43:53:23
Callum
But just like if you and like, um, you know, throwing to like Mr. Olympia with Chris Bum said winning. And people were saying, like, rough days or an event like that, like everyone there was everyone had an opinion about that. When it comes to because you recently won your most recent comp yes.
01:43:53:23 - 01:43:57:13
Nick
Or so was my first bodybuilding shouted first timers and came first. Yeah.
01:43:58:05 - 01:44:05:05
Callum
Well, you saw us in the compound before we even went out. You were like Google, like Instagramming them to find out. And you're like, Yeah, I reckon I'm bigger than him.
01:44:05:17 - 01:44:09:09
Emily
Yeah. Well, you going in confident? Did you go in confident? You're like, I've got this in the bag.
01:44:09:16 - 01:44:24:20
Nick
I actually didn't. A lot of people were very confident in my potential. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I went in with kind of like an open mind. Yeah. Open expectations. I did like intrinsically like deep down, I did want to win. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:44:24:20 - 01:44:25:18
Callum
So yeah, yeah.
01:44:26:00 - 01:44:47:10
Nick
Yeah. And, and I wanted to win like the first qualifier Nationals the following week, but that was just maybe an unrealistic with my expectations of myself. But, but I mean, yeah, I mean I was definitely surprised myself and I got Yeah. Called out first and first timers and yeah, I don't know, like it's weird you kind of off on stage and yeah, I just thought to myself, oh yeah.
01:44:47:10 - 01:44:57:12
Nick
That they're calling people like they called out third place and then I was like, okay, well I'm not third, maybe I'll be second. Yeah, I thought I'd be like on the podium, but I didn't think I'd get first. Yeah, yeah. And they call that second.
01:44:58:10 - 01:44:59:17
Emily
Clearly I haven't got it. Yeah.
01:44:59:17 - 01:45:11:08
Nick
And I was just happy for the other people. It's like, Oh, I'm interested. So you came first and they called my name and was like, Hey, that's my name. So I walked over. I was like, Yeah, I was ecstatic. Like, Yeah, yeah.
01:45:12:00 - 01:45:13:19
Emily
But yeah, I mean, that's amazing.
01:45:14:03 - 01:45:15:17
Callum
It's a pretty impressive physique.
01:45:15:19 - 01:45:22:08
Emily
What do you think about when you're actually posing when you're on stage? Like, what's going through your mind what is it?
01:45:23:02 - 01:45:25:08
Nick
I don't miss the beat. Yeah, yeah.
01:45:25:13 - 01:45:33:08
Emily
So every single time you post it, sorry, every single time you change poses that's what's going through.
01:45:33:20 - 01:45:36:20
Callum
It's like killing time or something. Yeah. Is it exposed to do or.
01:45:37:02 - 01:45:39:14
Nick
It's almost like muscle memory, like it's.
01:45:39:24 - 01:45:40:21
Emily
Already got you doing.
01:45:40:24 - 01:46:06:00
Nick
Yeah. In a way. Like the goal is to obviously practice, practice, practice so much. Yeah. And up to the shows that when you get to the show a lot, by the time you're on the stage and it's your time to do your routine, like it just kind of flies. Yeah. Almost like when you're in that flow set working and you just like, I don't know where these ideas are coming from or like how like if you've ever written like a assignment to uni or school and you like that, the words are just coming out.
01:46:06:00 - 01:46:14:06
Nick
Yeah, yeah. And that's kind of what you're trying to aim for when you're on stage. I'll be honest, I should have done a lot more posing practice and I did. Yeah, I just kind of winged it.
01:46:15:19 - 01:46:25:11
Callum
And we were talking about this prior to this episode going as well, and we're talking about the importance of like nutrition to, um, you know, like.
01:46:25:11 - 01:46:27:05
Emily
Training mindset or mindset.
01:46:27:05 - 01:46:28:07
Callum
Like if.
01:46:28:13 - 01:46:29:05
Emily
Recovery.
01:46:29:12 - 01:46:33:13
Callum
Are not like I want you to put it on a scale or a triad or whatever, but like.
01:46:33:16 - 01:46:35:05
Nick
80% nutrition. Yeah, yeah.
01:46:35:22 - 01:46:50:22
Callum
I know it's also training. And like for some people that might need to be more than nutrition because they're not, you know, like that into the condition side of things. But for you, what would you say is like for you, what is your key? What do you think you like and like, I know I'm going to crush that side of things.
01:46:51:24 - 01:47:02:14
Nick
I think I probably I mean, I'm pretty good with nutrition, but I think the training I go into the gym and I always have the like the mindset of no one's going to train harder than me, like every.
01:47:02:14 - 01:47:03:09
Callum
Like every day.
01:47:03:10 - 01:47:03:18
Nick
Yeah.
01:47:03:18 - 01:47:06:00
Callum
Like every time you train that, you're thinking that, yeah.
01:47:06:01 - 01:47:06:07
Nick
Yeah.
01:47:06:08 - 01:47:07:05
Emily
That is sick.
01:47:07:10 - 01:47:28:10
Nick
I have a really hard as opposed job at holding myself back when I'm training. Like a lot of people, obviously, we know the literature says you don't need to train to fail to get. Yeah, yeah. You just want to be in that Goldilocks zone on the cusp, like the precipice just before for failure and kind of like dance in between like three reps and reserve and like one to two reps reserve yeah.
01:47:28:16 - 01:47:45:23
Nick
Occasionally go going to a lot one or zero reps and reserve in like the final stretch of the training block. Yes. But I'm kind of a, I suppose a little bit dogmatic in my approach personally. I don't advocate it for my clients, but I would just try to just go all out and leave nothing on the table but keep technique and changes.
01:47:46:00 - 01:47:50:07
Callum
Yeah. Yeah. Like don't compromise that but you, you will go to the nth degree.
01:47:50:12 - 01:47:50:20
Nick
Yeah.
01:47:51:02 - 01:48:14:18
Emily
It's actually impressive like that. The mindset you have that is like that. I will not fail mindset yeah. Like I have a goal and you set it and it's on like, it's like let's like your mind is so strong. How like if you could give any piece of advice to someone who is in a similar position where they're starting to set goals or they've got this dream, what?
01:48:14:24 - 01:48:17:21
Emily
How do I, how do you sort be what what else do we do?
01:48:19:08 - 01:48:37:20
Nick
Well, to start like when it comes to setting a goal, obviously you need to understand your why like the intrinsic reason behind what you're setting out to do and achieve. I mean, if you just set a goal, I want to get laid out because then people would like me more relaxed or I'll, I'll be more self-confident. Like that's a a lot of the time.
01:48:37:20 - 01:48:58:13
Nick
It's a bad goal. It's a very weak framework for a goal because you don't get self-confidence from achieving a certain body composition. Yeah, yeah. A physique or getting a certain squat benefits or deadlift. But what you will do is you'll, you'll learn that you're stronger than you thought you were. Yeah. Well, the way during and throughout the process.
01:48:59:05 - 01:49:21:00
Nick
So being very like process oriented with your approach to your training and your goals is really important. I think. So it's like, okay, well I want to get a six pack because I don't like the way I feel. I don't like the way I look and then you've got to ask yourself, Why don't you like the way you look and kind of just dig as deep as you can.
01:49:21:07 - 01:49:33:16
Nick
And if you can go like three or four wise, they've always said it's a pretty solid goal. Yeah, but if you can't at least dig a few layers, they if like I can guarantee you're probably going to falter and yeah. And just fall off the bandwagon.
01:49:33:21 - 01:49:51:17
Callum
Yeah, but even what you're saying, they're, um, settling for. Well, we, we touched on, we've touched on a lot this morning. We did talk about that, like setting the bar, like you've got options, right? Like there are a few options. And we sometimes be like, well, it's okay if you just do this, then you know, you'll be fine.
01:49:51:17 - 01:49:58:10
Callum
But even just that, your mindset of training, you're like, Nah, I'm going to go in there. I'm going to absolutely destroy my chest that I.
01:49:58:10 - 01:49:58:18
Nick
Like.
01:49:59:20 - 01:50:02:05
Callum
To the till is almost turn off the bone.
01:50:03:06 - 01:50:07:08
Nick
Yeah, it's surely not like the safest thing to do. It is what I do. Yeah.
01:50:07:08 - 01:50:18:15
Callum
And I think for you, right? Whereas like if you had a client who you like, you know, they're new off the block. They also want to get into it. You going to start off probably slow, but yeah, I'm sure you'd advocate for a sense of going and do your best like.
01:50:18:23 - 01:50:35:10
Nick
Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I always try encourage them to do their best and I think, yeah, even though like all our set out to go to failure, I pay the price for it sometimes too. Like, I mean, I might get a nickel from it and I'll make that very clear to my clients. Like I'll be like, Look, you can approach it the same way I do it.
01:50:35:10 - 01:50:51:02
Nick
Like is at the end of the day, I can't tell you not to. That would be very hypocritical of me. But understand that you've got to be mature enough to be willing to accept the potential consequences of doing that. Yeah, I've, I've like made my bed and I'm happy to sleep in it if push comes to shop. Yeah.
01:50:51:08 - 01:51:13:20
Nick
Are you, are you going to get really down in the dumps and beat yourself up because you got a nickel or because you. Yeah. Ruined the progression for the next three weeks training indefinitely right now. Like. Yeah, yeah. I always try to say to my clients yeah. Always like like shoot, shoot fee goal. I can set the standards, set the bar high and try not to have a plan B because I think plan B is implying that the plan is going to fail.
01:51:13:21 - 01:51:31:23
Nick
Yeah, well, I don't like plan B. I do think that you need to be willing to improvise and adapt to the situation, the circumstances as they come and go and change. Yeah, but don't go into it. Don't go into pursuing a goal or like a having a plan while having a not the plan on the back burner. Yeah.
01:51:31:24 - 01:51:39:23
Nick
Because it's going to take some of your focus and attention away. So, you know, you're 100% committed to that. Yeah. And then you will likely to fail. Yeah.
01:51:39:23 - 01:51:46:03
Emily
Yeah. So the federation that you're in competing in, what are the rules.
01:51:46:15 - 01:51:47:07
Nick
Oh okay.
01:51:48:08 - 01:51:49:20
Emily
I consider what can you not do.
01:51:50:12 - 01:52:23:15
Nick
Um, so it's I competed in 05, so it's untested bodybuilding federation. Yeah. I don't think I need to explain too much around that. People who know enough about training and bodybuilding know what that means. So that said, there aren't many kind of roles, so to speak. In the case of you, obviously you want to have good oh, I can't think of the term if you've got to have good sportsmanship.
01:52:23:15 - 01:52:27:08
Nick
So on the on the stage. Yeah, right. Yeah. To treat the other competitors with respect.
01:52:27:08 - 01:52:27:23
Emily
Yes.
01:52:27:23 - 01:52:47:18
Nick
And be polite. So stage presence, you do get mocked and on that. Even the things like how how good your complexion is like or if you have bad skin that can affect your placing even though that won't say it. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day where we're getting critiqued and judged on the way we look, which is yeah, it's pretty.
01:52:48:01 - 01:52:49:03
Emily
You know, unspoken rule.
01:52:49:03 - 01:53:08:08
Nick
Yeah, it's an unspoken rule. That or any, any, any kind of abnormal is like if, if there's two contenders like for first place on the stage and that ridiculously close like given the actual I suppose I don't know, I.
01:53:09:03 - 01:53:10:24
Callum
Like the criteria of it.
01:53:10:24 - 01:53:27:04
Nick
Or. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like given like the criteria that they actually do go in intentionally mocking everybody on. Yeah. Like if people are so close, there's two people that are Yeah. Pretty much the same in terms of how many points. Yeah. They've got like they have to separate them somehow. They can't just be like, oh, we've got two first places.
01:53:27:04 - 01:53:56:05
Nick
So that will be like, okay, well this, this guy's like got better skin. This guy's got really, really bad skin. Like, he's got a very poor complexion. Okay, we're going to give it to him. Yeah, but they won't say that's the reason why they just say yeah, to say that you want it. Yeah. So it's kind of, like you said, an unspoken criteria, but they assess everything from the way you conduct yourself on stage, how you treat others, how much he's smiling, that sort of thing.
01:53:56:05 - 01:53:57:01
Callum
So it's kind of cool, though.
01:53:57:05 - 01:53:58:02
Emily
I really love that.
01:53:58:09 - 01:53:58:18
Nick
Yeah.
01:53:58:19 - 01:54:01:06
Callum
Yeah. Because it's not just like, I think when I feel.
01:54:01:06 - 01:54:05:17
Emily
Like every man for themselves, it's like, let's it's a camaraderie. It's like, let's get a group together.
01:54:05:18 - 01:54:06:02
Nick
Yeah.
01:54:06:08 - 01:54:17:18
Callum
And I feel as though from what I've seen in competitions, both female and male, um, it seems like they all kind of get along because you're always, like, not like you're an elite breed, but there's not.
01:54:17:18 - 01:54:18:15
Nick
A lot of.
01:54:19:03 - 01:54:44:00
Callum
Professional bodybuilders. There's a lot of dudes who are like, you know, on test and they're 19, and that is like the biggest, thickest dudes, but they don't like it. Yeah. They're not going to commit to getting on stage and going 24 weeks nonstop, not drinking alcohol just like getting as lean as possible, going through cycles. And like you said, you even understand the physiology behind what your body's going through, where they might do a cutting their fat dogs down in their brain.
01:54:44:00 - 01:54:45:14
Callum
You know, is get so foggy.
01:54:45:14 - 01:54:47:09
Emily
Yeah, no medic gets limp.
01:54:47:22 - 01:54:48:13
Callum
And then it's like.
01:54:48:13 - 01:55:16:00
Nick
What's wrong with me? Yeah. And then they think they're broken. Yeah. And they don't know what to do. Yeah. Well, I mean, you kind of set it, summarize it very well. Like everybody that is at the competition, we, we know what it took to kind of get that look. We know that you commit a number of back to back months of dieting and training hard and, and potentially some sort of financial or just life, personal life stress in the mix.
01:55:16:00 - 01:55:34:19
Nick
Yeah. And to be able to get through all that and not pull the pin on your prep and get there on stage, I think there's that kind of level of respect that we kind of reserve for everybody in the sense of like, look, we acknowledge that you've worked hard to get here. Yeah. No matter what the outcome, no matter what you place, like, you deserve to be up here just as much as any one of us do.
01:55:35:04 - 01:55:56:06
Nick
And I think there's that. Yeah, that camaraderie built on that. And it's almost like a mate ship, like, it's really cool. Yeah. And yeah, you just yeah, I mean, you always get the, the, what do they call the soul races or the sports? Like, yeah, they're always going to be out there. But for the majority of the people competing, yeah, everybody's amazing.
01:55:56:06 - 01:56:17:14
Nick
And it was really eye opening. Like, I think I went into it thinking, Oh, like we got mocked on the way we look. We just get off they all tend and moved off and we reflect some posing in our trunks and then we get mocked. But there's so many things that go into it. It's multifaceted. Like I said, you're posing how will you flow whether you're angled down towards the judges so they can see the best angle of, you know, the audience?
01:56:17:14 - 01:56:37:01
Nick
Yes. And how. Yeah. You conduct yourself on stage. Do you push somebody's arm out of the way when you're posing or do you you frown on stage when someone else, like gets moved into the middle of the line, like that sort of thing. And it's all these little subtle things and and it gives you an appreciation for how dynamic the sport is.
01:56:37:07 - 01:56:38:13
Callum
It's so yeah, it.
01:56:38:13 - 01:57:01:10
Emily
Does a lot. There's a lot going on at one time. I actually do think about that because like I've watched a couple of competitions and, you know, when, when the well, in my case, the girls were up on the stage. I was like, well, like what? How are the judges looking at? However many girls that are on this stage picking apart, like, you know, just being like, you're good, your good, your whatever.
01:57:01:15 - 01:57:03:05
Emily
It's like it's actually just incredible if.
01:57:03:05 - 01:57:04:05
Callum
You don't make a statement.
01:57:04:14 - 01:57:16:09
Emily
Yes. Oh, like and it's like especially for women, it's like if it's you know, if you bikini oh, like if it's like for whatever, it's like if you bikinis not tiptop or if we don't like that or. Yeah, it's unbelievable.
01:57:16:19 - 01:57:46:22
Nick
Even the tan, like if you used the wrong tan and you look like different to everybody else, you'll get mocked down for it. I remember, wow. Tiny dowdy coffee coming out the back and giving us like a debrief before we kind of did our like, categories and stuff on stage and is like, if you don't have protein and make sure you get protein right now because if you get up there like some poor soul, he said some poor soul we've got up there on stage at one other show in the past and they looked orange like they they looked orange when everybody else is bronze.
01:57:46:22 - 01:57:49:05
Nick
Yeah, I just looked so obvious under the lights.
01:57:49:06 - 01:57:49:16
Emily
But like you.
01:57:49:16 - 01:58:06:13
Nick
Go so yeah. And Psyche, you can't, you can't just go the cheap route and get a different kind of tan. Like you got to do your research and find out what. Yeah. But with women, like, confidence, like the stage presence is so important. Yeah. I mean it's important for all classes and categories, but especially for the women's groups.
01:58:06:14 - 01:58:20:03
Nick
And you can tell, like, you can see an amazing physique like a competitor with an amazing physique and she gets up on stage and clearly does not show that she feels confident and comfortable. She belongs up on there like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:58:20:17 - 01:58:38:16
Emily
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is incredible. It's cool. Like, do you, do you think that like on that confidence pace, like how do you kind of feel about that? Because like, the way I see it, even just thinking about it right now, I'm like, is there, you know, are you just faking confidence or you actually really fucking like yes.
01:58:38:18 - 01:58:42:06
Callum
You comfortable everybody like you? Yeah. You know, that your prep and everything.
01:58:42:06 - 01:58:45:18
Emily
And like, I'm sure blokes are the exact same. Like, what do you think?
01:58:46:16 - 01:59:06:00
Nick
I mean, if you don't have it, they always say, like, fake it till you make it and it's kind of like last resort. It's like if that's your only option, if you go, yeah, yeah. And like if for your sake, hopefully it comes off legitimate and that feels genuine. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I would honestly say genuinely being confident it's going to be better because any day you don't have that.
01:59:06:00 - 01:59:24:06
Emily
Well you don't have to. Yeah. That added pressure you've already got enough going on your play going on stage and adding that on top. Yeah. Unbelievable. And what like basically did that get you into online coaching or so you competing? Did that get you into online coaching or were you already an online coach already?
01:59:24:06 - 01:59:40:19
Nick
Already kind of into online coaching, like a kind of started a I want to say 2013 like just a handful of people. Yeah, Garden Grace, a couple other people went online. Coaching is very, very small but and I kind of just I never pushed it or tried to grow it because I was working a normal job at the same time, that sort of thing.
01:59:41:08 - 01:59:54:21
Nick
And I never really thought it could take off and be a full fledged full time career. Like especially back then like people even even personal training in a gym, people would, wouldn't take you seriously if you're a person were trying to do like, oh, you're oh yeah. Okay, so when are you going to get a real job life.
01:59:54:21 - 01:59:59:23
Nick
Yeah. So yeah, yeah. And now like people people have said that it probably.
02:00:00:08 - 02:00:02:06
Emily
They like they like inquiring about how.
02:00:02:18 - 02:00:07:16
Callum
They want to pay, but they're probably too afraid to like, hey, reach out yes.
02:00:07:17 - 02:00:25:19
Nick
Yeah, yeah. But I did, I did face to face personal training in coaching out of a like a gym that was like nearby where I lived at the time, years and years ago. And then after doing that for a while, I thought to myself, you know, it's kind of like 50 50 face to face online. I'm enjoying the online a lot more.
02:00:25:19 - 02:00:40:07
Nick
Yeah. In order for me to be able to put on a percent effort into that and give more time and attention to those people, I need to pull that time from somewhere else. So yeah, we've only got X amount of hours in a week, so it's like I, if I pull a pin on face to face, I don't have to pay rent to the gym.
02:00:40:07 - 02:00:54:02
Nick
Yeah, yeah. I've got like say 30 to 40 extra hours a week that I can play with and then yeah, I basically made the leap of faith as I. Yeah, yeah. I just never looked back. You got to say that's epic.
02:00:54:12 - 02:01:06:08
Emily
Yeah, that's so cool. When you online coach, what is your kind of like ideal client? So if they come to you, who is your like ideal client? To help?
02:01:06:17 - 02:01:24:20
Nick
Well, yeah, it's interesting. You, like, a lot of people would be like, okay, well, I have a niche like. Yeah, like for some it might be CrossFitters or that sort of thing. I'll coach people across the board. Yeah, I've actually, but I have kind of like a, a criteria of like, I want you to be like committed to goals, that sort of thing.
02:01:24:21 - 02:01:46:16
Nick
I want you to be willing to do the, the non-negotiables, the things that we agree upon. Yeah. And, and basically just be as transparent as communicative as possible. Yeah. But I have mostly, I'd say like athletes, performance athletes for my nutrition coaching. I don't really do a lot of coaching the way I've performance athletes for that actual training anymore.
02:01:46:22 - 02:02:06:10
Nick
I have done a little bit of that in the past, especially when I do powerlifting. Yeah. I say my typical clients these days are performance athletes for nutrition physique competitors. So like bodybuilding. Yes. Is a classic physique, that sort of thing. And then also just general population and lifestyle classes that are very, very committed that.
02:02:07:07 - 02:02:08:06
Emily
They want the results.
02:02:08:06 - 02:02:28:20
Nick
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who after that something maybe a little bit more elaborate like body recomposition because that requires a lot more for. Yeah. Sort of things and then like rapid, rapid weight loss. But not, not that I kind of promote that more. It has to like if I have somebody that's severely overweight, yeah, I feel like I have a duty of care.
02:02:29:10 - 02:02:33:23
Nick
They approach me in a lot. Look, I'll help you get healthy. Yeah. But it's not my like nature. Yeah.
02:02:34:04 - 02:02:49:13
Callum
Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Going into the bottom and sort of style of things. And you brush on it a couple of times like that, you know, human physiology yeah. Male to female. And I would say your clients vary. Would they vary between male and female?
02:02:49:18 - 02:02:55:01
Nick
Yeah, it was for a long time it was predominately females, but now it's pretty only mouse. So I think.
02:02:55:04 - 02:03:00:20
Callum
That's, that's good because where I'm going with this is when it comes to two men, our physiology pretty.
02:03:00:20 - 02:03:04:15
Nick
Basic. Yeah, right. Like not a sentimental no.
02:03:04:23 - 02:03:06:09
Callum
All right. And so when we're.
02:03:06:22 - 02:03:26:24
Nick
Due to okay. Oh, no. I mean, women are more complex. Like they're they're more like yeah, yeah. Like if we look at it from an evolutionary perspective, like, I think women are more like evolved like yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, there's a lot more complexity to their, their makeup and the way.
02:03:27:00 - 02:03:28:01
Emily
This hundred percent.
02:03:28:07 - 02:03:47:04
Callum
Yeah. So what would in the case of, you know, competing for example, so people listening at home, if they were keen to get into it, what would be something you would expect to either see feel like as a man, you know, you get to yeah. Like as you cutting foods, obviously you don't have much to play. Yeah. Right.
02:03:47:04 - 02:03:51:20
Callum
But as a female they've got the thousand things to freak and think about right?
02:03:51:21 - 02:04:14:15
Nick
Exactly. Yeah. Life. I mean, you could have your cycle suddenly stop. That's quite common. Yeah. I mean, a lot of the time, ideally, you don't want it to stop or at least you don't want it to stop for like the longest time in a front. But for most individuals, unless if their body is happy, kind of being at a low body fat set point, especially women like they will lose their their period at some point, usually toward the tail end.
02:04:14:15 - 02:04:34:00
Nick
And then it obviously comes back when you yeah, you do the whole like recovery process so fast and tight track calories back up and reversed lower energy availability. Yeah. A lot of diet fatigue like sets in and occurs as a result of the extreme dieting that we do in bodybuilding. Yeah. Women, it's there's a lot more things to think about.
02:04:34:00 - 02:04:59:01
Nick
Like for women you can expect to potentially like lose your your life period temporarily it's just general kind of symptoms of like moodiness. Yeah, exactly. Same thing for men. Yeah. But for women, I'll just say just expect what men experience but on a higher level. Yeah. In addition to obviously experiencing something, some things that men can't experience due to having a different physiological makeup.
02:04:59:03 - 02:04:59:10
Nick
Yeah.
02:04:59:20 - 02:05:09:10
Callum
And how important is the rebuild after something like that? So, you know, you've just given on, on stage, we've, we've done a few cuts in our life.
02:05:09:10 - 02:05:13:07
Emily
Oh my God. I thought we were going to cycle. So I don't know, I've never.
02:05:13:07 - 02:05:27:05
Callum
Never known as in we've, we've done a few cuts, you know, cuts and deficits, you know, going down and then like the rebuild how important is a a proper rebuild phase or is it you know you go from 1300 calories back to 27 like.
02:05:27:16 - 02:06:13:02
Nick
Okay yeah general fat loss phase general a lot weight loss phase like that sort of thing. I'd say you can tolerate the calories quite quickly more aggressively or liberally than you would out of a contest yeah. And there's physiological and psychological reasons for that. But when it comes to a contest, you have to take things a little bit slower a lot of the time and it's more of a personalized approach when it comes to reversing or coming out of a contest because some individuals, they're going to do better with them a quicker more aggressive light titration of food and reduction of energy expenditure, whereas other individuals are going to require a much slower sequential process, general
02:06:13:02 - 02:06:29:20
Nick
fat loss start. I mean, you can probably jump just below your new passive maintenance from the end of the deficit and then one to two weeks later jump to maintenance, sort of slightly above maintenance. So do you like a two or three step process over a course of, say, like two to four weeks or even last one to two weeks?
02:06:29:21 - 02:06:58:05
Nick
Yeah, depending on how long the the deficit was and how aggressive it was, whether it was like a 25% deficit or like a 20% deficit for contest prepped, I think it's a lot more like it needs to be assessed on a case by case basis. So somebody who's got like a proclivity to like binge or ivory, who's experienced some really severe appetite dysregulation, you might want to increase the food a little bit more quickly.
02:06:58:05 - 02:07:22:04
Nick
Yeah. To prevent them from turning like a I mean, it's better to increase somebody's calories, like put them in a thousand calorie surplus posture than it is for them to try to adhere to a very gradual reverse approach and then end up binging 3000 calories. I maintenance like you kind of like preempting what the damage might be. Yeah. And say that we know ourselves very well.
02:07:22:04 - 02:07:34:14
Nick
That'll be somebody I want to be honest with ourselves. So if you know that you don't handle like coming out of a diet, you rebuild. Yeah. Go a bit quicker. You know you're going to save yourself some heartache in the long run, literally.
02:07:34:17 - 02:07:44:07
Emily
Yeah. Yeah. And what I want to know is so you what are your other hobbies besides from training and working?
02:07:45:12 - 02:07:51:18
Nick
Oh, that's hard. I mean, I used to play the guitar bit. Yeah. I haven't had much time to do that lately. Yeah.
02:07:52:04 - 02:07:58:17
Emily
Yeah. Because it would be hard. I like it. You're prepping. Yeah. When you're in a prep, it's like, that's. That's the majority of what you're doing, right?
02:07:58:18 - 02:07:59:13
Callum
Sacrifice.
02:07:59:14 - 02:08:01:21
Nick
Yeah, sacrifice. You've got to be hard.
02:08:02:06 - 02:08:04:04
Emily
But truly. Literally.
02:08:04:18 - 02:08:15:08
Nick
Yeah, so finally, guitar. I used to do a lot of art. I was into Warhammer even for this. Oh, yeah. Pretty nerdy on that show, but painting the little miniatures and stuff like.
02:08:15:11 - 02:08:15:17
Callum
Yeah.
02:08:16:08 - 02:08:27:12
Nick
Okay. And then, yeah, I don't have much time to do that anymore. Yeah, yeah. But. But they're my hobbies outside. Yeah. And I like music. So I just like listening to music. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:08:27:20 - 02:08:34:10
Emily
Do you find it hard to or do you ever miss your hobby? It's like or miss you're like you time when you are in prep mode.
02:08:34:22 - 02:08:49:16
Nick
Yeah, I think I do. Yeah. And I mean, in practice, kind of like the from time to return to some of your hobbies when you have so much time between meals because you're eating less true. I want to keep the mind busy. So you can sometimes you can pick them up. Depends on how hectic schedule is outside of prep, like how busy work.
02:08:49:17 - 02:09:00:19
Nick
Yeah. Like and that sort of thing. But yeah, I mean yeah, I've, I think it's hard to find time for your hobbies. Yeah, you're probably great. Like, the older you get, the more responsibilities.
02:09:00:21 - 02:09:01:10
Emily
Exactly.
02:09:01:10 - 02:09:05:08
Nick
Yeah. Yeah. Placed on your plate. It's more difficult to psyche.
02:09:05:11 - 02:09:07:08
Emily
Yeah. You can get in silly and fun and yeah.
02:09:07:08 - 02:09:23:20
Nick
Committed relationship. Then it's like, okay, my moving together, I'll be house, that sort of thing. Then it's like, oh, you're planning to have like a family or kids that something like a dog like. And it's like, well, they're all responsibilities. They are require a chunk of your time out of the. Yeah. How, how much can you handle before spreading yourself to your thing.
02:09:23:20 - 02:09:24:08
Emily
Yeah, exactly.
02:09:24:08 - 02:09:30:08
Callum
Burn out like even relationships. Like what, what sacrifices that feel for you when you prepping, like, you know, because it's.
02:09:30:08 - 02:09:31:17
Emily
More than just your partner handle that.
02:09:31:18 - 02:09:36:21
Callum
It's more than just food and diet and all that you've got to sacrifice for like, bam, go to the gym for 3 hours. Yeah.
02:09:37:13 - 02:09:58:14
Nick
Yeah. It's you need to have somebody like a companion that's very understanding of the process. Ideally somebody who also walks that lifestyle as well. Yeah. That's going to be the most ideal scenario for a competitive athlete, whether it be a powerlifter bodybuilder across here. It's like somebody understands your goals, your commitment for sure. Yeah. And the cost of having such a goal.
02:09:59:09 - 02:10:04:12
Nick
Yeah, my partner, I'm very grateful and lucky and blessed that she also competes. So yeah.
02:10:04:19 - 02:10:04:24
Emily
Yeah.
02:10:05:07 - 02:10:13:11
Nick
She and she works from home away from home. So we get to see each other throughout the day. What a great range it's amazing. Yeah. I mean, I'm very.
02:10:13:15 - 02:10:14:20
Callum
You hit the gym together too.
02:10:15:11 - 02:10:27:09
Nick
Not really, because, you know, they always say like, couples are trying to get the set together. Yeah, well, it's good to train with your partner occasionally, but I mean, you do different programs, like you have your program up there program. You'll have different goals out. Different.
02:10:27:09 - 02:10:27:18
Emily
Yeah, yeah.
02:10:28:03 - 02:10:30:17
Nick
And I mean, it's good to train with each other, but you also want that like.
02:10:31:04 - 02:10:36:07
Emily
And especially if you're already worth like if you work from home with them, you do normally, like, prep together.
02:10:36:08 - 02:10:37:01
Nick
You get sick of you.
02:10:37:01 - 02:10:39:17
Emily
You're like buying. I'm going to the gym. Yeah.
02:10:39:21 - 02:10:44:12
Nick
And you're fresh at the time together more than. Yeah. You're spending every waking moment together. Yeah, yeah.
02:10:45:02 - 02:10:46:16
Emily
Yeah. Well, that would be like.
02:10:47:09 - 02:10:48:07
Callum
What that would be like.
02:10:48:09 - 02:10:51:11
Emily
Yeah. To, like, work from home you know.
02:10:52:01 - 02:10:53:10
Callum
I would be a bit of that.
02:10:53:10 - 02:10:55:17
Emily
I think I would be, too. But I also.
02:10:55:17 - 02:10:56:02
Callum
Need.
02:10:56:05 - 02:11:09:05
Emily
To like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. Yeah, I agree. Um, well, before we wrap up, we normally just play a little fast. Five quick questions. Don't think. Just say. Yeah, I.
02:11:09:05 - 02:11:10:08
Nick
Have done all right.
02:11:10:24 - 02:11:13:24
Emily
If you could only have one food for the rest of your life, what is it?
02:11:14:03 - 02:11:15:11
Nick
Actually, see, now I'm just.
02:11:17:09 - 02:11:19:03
Callum
Hey, you. The assignment. Hey, you.
02:11:19:06 - 02:11:23:17
Nick
Know some of the above of. So, yeah, if I do choose one for them.
02:11:24:18 - 02:11:25:11
Emily
And they go on.
02:11:25:18 - 02:11:33:23
Nick
I'm a lover of pizza, but my my body doesn't, like, paid. So, like, autoimmune disease. I don't handle gluten well, but I'd have to say pizza. Okay. I would like.
02:11:34:04 - 02:11:36:10
Emily
Yeah. If that didn't exist. Like pizza straight off. Yeah.
02:11:36:20 - 02:11:39:08
Callum
If you could be any superhero, who would it be?
02:11:40:05 - 02:11:42:06
Nick
Mhm. Century.
02:11:43:00 - 02:11:44:10
Callum
Tell me more. Huh? I don't know.
02:11:44:10 - 02:12:04:19
Nick
Pretty much like the Superman of Marvel. On steroids. Like, he's got like he's pretty much invulnerable in every way. Like, you can't beat him. His his only weakness is the fact that when he gets angry, he can lose control and let potentially just kill everyone and everything. But that's that's really negative to him. It's like everything else, like, don't stand a chance.
02:12:04:19 - 02:12:08:19
Nick
Yeah, I'm like, century a bit of a comic book buff from another. Yeah.
02:12:08:19 - 02:12:09:24
Emily
So great choice.
02:12:10:00 - 02:12:12:20
Nick
Yeah. Not a lot of people know his century is going to Google.
02:12:12:20 - 02:12:13:04
Callum
That one for.
02:12:13:04 - 02:12:14:07
Emily
Sure. Is yours.
02:12:14:18 - 02:12:16:01
Nick
Is yours. Mine? Yeah.
02:12:16:13 - 02:12:20:08
Callum
It's pretty it's pretty boring. But I just love Spider-Man. African love.
02:12:20:10 - 02:12:23:15
Nick
Spider-Man. I don't start you. I wanna hear a funny story.
02:12:23:17 - 02:12:25:22
Emily
We do. I do always love hearing stories.
02:12:25:22 - 02:12:44:18
Nick
So when I was when I was in primary school, I was I had a little bit of a, I suppose a fanatical period where I was obsessed with Spider-Man. I'd pack my Spider-Man costume up in my bag when the lunch bell rang I'd go to the toilets at school. In primary school. Yeah. Strip down and hop into the Spider-Man suit and just do fat laps around the school for lunch break.
02:12:44:22 - 02:12:45:12
Callum
Just yelling at.
02:12:46:01 - 02:12:50:05
Nick
Ourselves. It's the most embarrassing thing to look back on. Yeah, I was.
02:12:50:06 - 02:12:52:08
Callum
I was pretty cool because, like, I reckon there's someone.
02:12:52:08 - 02:12:52:18
Emily
Didn't trust.
02:12:52:21 - 02:12:57:21
Callum
Someone sitting there right now. I feel like they used to do this kid in my school and he was just running around me like, I'm Spider-Man.
02:12:58:19 - 02:13:02:00
Emily
Someone's listening. Who is in primary school with you? Like, I remember that.
02:13:02:00 - 02:13:03:20
Callum
Got you. What superhero?
02:13:04:20 - 02:13:09:18
Emily
Look, I would love to say I'm a superhero gal, but I'm not. Who? Scarlett Johansson in.
02:13:09:23 - 02:13:11:11
Nick
A black way to Twitter. Yeah, yeah.
02:13:11:16 - 02:13:12:11
Emily
I just like.
02:13:12:14 - 02:13:14:20
Callum
Just like a Russian Russian spy slash.
02:13:14:21 - 02:13:15:17
Emily
Yeah. That looks.
02:13:15:17 - 02:13:16:14
Callum
To assassin.
02:13:16:15 - 02:13:18:00
Emily
Yes, that sounds like me.
02:13:18:00 - 02:13:19:18
Callum
Like, deviate a little sneaky.
02:13:20:19 - 02:13:23:05
Emily
I Dogs or cats?
02:13:24:06 - 02:13:25:17
Nick
Definitely dogs, but I love both.
02:13:26:16 - 02:13:33:02
Emily
Bless you. I like that answer. I really do. What is on your bucket list that you haven't ticked off yet? Oh.
02:13:33:14 - 02:13:35:06
Nick
So a lot of a lot of.
02:13:35:07 - 02:13:35:22
Emily
We've seen.
02:13:36:00 - 02:13:38:15
Nick
See the pyramids in person before they close down.
02:13:38:19 - 02:13:47:24
Callum
Oh, yeah. Cole lost one. It's not a trick question. Classic from Arnold or Chris Bowen said.
02:13:49:18 - 02:14:02:15
Nick
Oh, that's hard. They first got their, like, weaknesses in their strengths. We're going purely off of symmetry proportion physique. Arnold if we're going of conditioning and posing Chris Bowen said, okay, cool. Yeah.
02:14:02:15 - 02:14:04:19
Callum
And the the mustache in the mullet had me.
02:14:05:03 - 02:14:06:00
Nick
Yeah I liked that.
02:14:07:00 - 02:14:11:14
Callum
The combo was good. Lovely. Well, I feel as if we could have we could if.
02:14:11:16 - 02:14:13:21
Emily
We could keep going. Oh, I know, I know.
02:14:14:04 - 02:14:15:04
Callum
It's been a great chat.
02:14:15:07 - 02:14:15:21
Emily
Literally.
02:14:15:24 - 02:14:17:18
Nick
It's been a pleasure. Really, really.
02:14:17:18 - 02:14:21:05
Callum
Busy. So much fun. And thanks for joining us. Where face to face.
02:14:21:07 - 02:14:23:21
Emily
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where can everyone find you?
02:14:24:07 - 02:14:35:06
Nick
So finally get into the ship game. I told myself I'd do it back in 2012 imposter syndrome stopped me, but yeah. Releasing three videos a week. Yeah. Oh, so stealthy. That's consistent us. Yeah. So Monday.
02:14:35:06 - 02:14:35:13
Callum
Wednesday.
02:14:35:13 - 02:14:36:22
Nick
Friday, yeah. Monday, Wednesday.
02:14:37:20 - 02:14:39:12
Emily
People are going to find on YouTube.
02:14:40:03 - 02:14:43:13
Nick
Most mostly vlogs food, elevating videos of boring crap.
02:14:44:03 - 02:14:44:11
Emily
That is a.
02:14:44:11 - 02:14:47:06
Callum
Celebrity. It's the bread and butter watch that.
02:14:47:06 - 02:14:54:11
Nick
I'm working on an informative video at the moment that I saw. I'm going to start heading and delving down the kind of that Geoff and a bit of rabbit hole. Oh, so I've got to.
02:14:55:23 - 02:14:56:24
Emily
Know who this is.
02:14:56:24 - 02:15:12:23
Nick
Yeah. How to, how to structure I like pool session science explained find a video I'm working on at the moment so 12 minutes long. I actually got off effects on it today before coming here. It almost missed the cue yeah yeah yeah I got go. Yeah well it's.
02:15:13:07 - 02:15:14:24
Callum
That. Yeah Instagram what's, what's the handle.
02:15:15:04 - 02:15:22:18
Nick
Aka so each of us Nicholas we top that in you'll see me and then Instagram is Coach Nicholas. Yeah, yeah. Real easy to remember.
02:15:22:19 - 02:15:23:17
Callum
W Air.
02:15:23:20 - 02:15:25:08
Nick
We are. Yeah.
02:15:25:11 - 02:15:30:13
Emily
Coach Nick Pope himself, thank you so much for joining us so thank you epic.
02:15:30:13 - 02:15:32:23
Callum
We look forward to seeing you on the series.
02:15:33:12 - 02:15:40:01
Nick
Olympia Yeah. I just want to finish with one thing. Gold's Gym is better than world. Oh, oh, yeah.
02:15:40:11 - 02:15:42:04
Emily
The fucking east set it.
02:15:42:05 - 02:15:43:05
Callum
Okay. He said it.
02:15:43:07 - 02:15:46:16
Emily
He said it. And he's he's not backing down from that. This is so good.