Good as Gold's
Good as Gold's
Find your inner hype lord with Adventure Athlete & Ultimate Hype Girl Meg Sutherland
Adventure athlete, Ultimate Hype Girl & founder of the worldwide movement MEGARUN, Meg Sutherland joins us on the Good as Gold's podcast with advice on how you can transform your life.
- How to overcome your fears
- Where do fears come from?
- What is a capability mindset?
- Becoming a Gym Shark athlete
- Fuel your body, fuel your brain
- Words of advice to live by that can change your life
- Is our psychology affected by what we eat?
- How important is it to challenge yourself?
- How can you get involved with MEGARUN?
You can find Meg on Instagram @megsutherland or get involved with a MEGARUN location here @themegarun
Want to get in touch? Reach out to the Gold's Gym Australia team on socials @goldsgymau or via email: feedback@goldsgym.com.au
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Emily
Thank you so much for joining us today. How are you?
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Meg
I'm so great. Ready to go to race? More so feeling very excited to get back into it and to say it to breakfast. So I'm feeling.
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Speaker 3
Feeling very good.
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Emily
We're all very. We're all very hyped up. We have just been been Hyperlapse, which is which is MSG signature. Signature word, which is what we call her. A little high powered.
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Callum
High blood bundle of joy.
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Emily
Just all of the things.
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Callum
All of the things.
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Emily
Tell us a little bit about you're in like honestly, like a quick snapshot before we kind of get into the nitty gritty. Tell us who Meg Sutherland is.
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Meg
Well, that's very Nancy called me a high schooler. I would like to think of myself. It's a high club, me, myself. Now, I do a host mega. And so my husband and I found a mega item, which is a global movement around the world, designed to show people that they're capable of more or give them the opportunity to prove it to themselves.
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Meg
And then outside of that obscure social media partnerships and now I would say I'm very positive and feel as human. But in the past, I would say I was quite negative and fearful of almost everything. So, I mean, if that's a snapshot, that's probably about as much as me, literally.
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Emily
What can we can we quickly just have a little chat about you being negative and kind of like a bit fearful of everything. What changed?
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Callum
Yeah.
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Meg
Well, I'm I'm not sure exactly the moment that changed everything, but my mum said it was like I just woke up one day and I just was quite a different human. It's not like I was a I was always a very happy kid, was happy. But I think as I went through my teenage years, I just let everything get to me and I just think I got a little bit narrow-minded in school.
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Meg
It's easy to do that because you think that the only world that exists in school. And then when I came out of school, even before I finished school, I just realized that I had a bit of a chip on my shoulder, even though I was given an amazing life. So I had no reason to have a chip. I have a great family.
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Meg
I had a great upbringing. And then I'd just realized the only person that was being affected by me blaming other people for it was me. And then I just thought, Okay, well, if you have got yourself here, you can also get yourself out of here. So you just got to figure out how to do that for me. I started doing everything that scared me, and that just gave me a lot of confidence.
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Meg
I think when you place your confidence only in how you look or what you have is always going to be someone that's more attractive than you. Has more money has better assets, whatever it is. Yeah. Where it's you just place confidence in the character and who you are and what you're capable of doing. I think that's when I realized that's what true confidence came from.
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Meg
And if you're confident in yourself, you naturally do normally end up being a more positive person because you're not looking at someone else wishing you had their life and love so that's changed me.
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Callum
And for the listeners, like when we're talking with Meg here, like if you do think of a snapshot right now, we're talking back flips we're talking motorbike riding, we're talking.
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Emily
Diving.
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Callum
Diving, sweet, like surfing, like skateboard.
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Speaker 3
What spinning back with.
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Callum
That video still gets that little like you just fully flex away. It's incredible. You fully have then now embodied that full capability mindset and you're confident in your own ability.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Callum
Like, yeah, I want to know, like, how to unlock that for like a person who is like, well, I could never. Yes, I couldn't do that. Where do you start?
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Meg
Well, I would say because I think when you're born, you're only born with two years. I think it's falling and abandonment or something like that. So naturally, skydiving, most people will be scared of it. But I think I just realized that all the fears that I had from then were kids or I would I would talk about myself as a fearful person or a negative person.
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Meg
I just decided I didn't want to be that person. So who do or who do you want to be and then start taking steps towards that? So first phase wise, it's going to be different for everyone, what you're what you're afraid of. And a lot of people can justify their fears based on their experiences, and that's fine, but it just means it's not going to get the benefit of overcoming those.
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Meg
So it can make you feel better in the short term. But in the long term, it does hold you back. So for me, I realized that if I could do it, I think you overcome fear by either understanding or experience. So going. So one of my fears is cane toads. It sounds simple, but I don't think anyone likes cane toads.
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Meg
But I mean, I really didn't like. Yeah, so it started with me going out and sounds so silly, but I was quite young going out with the net just when we were catching cane toads. I experience it very quickly. You just realize that instead we looking frog and it doesn't really matter that much and then it doesn't get to as much.
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Meg
And then the, the skydiving was the extreme of that because I was actually overly scared of skydiving itself. Tandem skydiving doesn't really scare me, but having to be completely responsible for your decisions is what scares me because I would me as a person would normally go and seek out every single person's opinion on one thing to try and figure out what I should do.
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Meg
But I just realized that the only person that can make your decisions on what you want to happen in your life is you. So I want to ask all these people for their opinions of what either they think they're capable of or what they think you should do. But it just doesn't work because then you're just going to end up living their life with what they think they're capable of.
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Meg
Because I can guarantee you, if I said I was going to do all the things that I do now to people back then, I would say, You're friggin crazy. I would have laughed. Yeah. So I think just going and actually, one educating yourself on the things is not like I just went in and skydive tomorrow. We went and did a course and learned how to do it.
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Meg
Yeah, we did research into how risky it is and things can go wrong. So that's the understanding part. And then we realize it's quite safe. It's a lot safer than just driving on the road and then going and actually experiencing it. The more that you do it, the less afraid you get.
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Callum
Yeah.
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Emily
I also think with fears we like, where did they come from? Like normally some of the things, some of the fears that I had like growing up was like kind of because my mum was scared of that or the society was like, this is a really scary thing. Like, yeah, like even the skydiving thing, it was like, oh my God, like there's so much risk, there's so much, you know, there was never like you didn't just go and educate yourself.
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Emily
It was just like, okay, that's something I would never do because that's so scary. So like I always find that with certain fears that pop up into everyone's lives, I'm like, where did that come from? That came from somewhere. Yeah, yeah. And so it's like when you can overcome that fear and be like, Actually, nah.
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Callum
Nah, nah, nah. I'm just going to do it.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Callum
Um.
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Meg
This brings all you get. You get really, once you become one, you just want to keep doing more because you get that confidence. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Callum
Yeah. And I think, and that's what I love. That is like getting that confidence and building confidence. And we both see that day to day in our jobs. Yeah. Is like coming with clients and they slowly build confidence and it's so good to see and to be able to, like, help usher that. And that's what I love. Just going back to Mega Run, your, your company.
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Callum
I personally have been on a few mega runs myself and I love the vibe on the I would say I'm a semi hop lord. Yeah, I love that.
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Emily
Yeah. Baby, you jump in.
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Callum
All right, cool. I'm jumping on board. And so like when I heard about like the vibe and then some was like, come on, man. I was like, cool. So ultimately, if you don't know what make run is.
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Speaker 3
Actually, you, you know, you, you take.
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Callum
It and then I'll jump into the story.
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Meg
Well, I'll.
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Speaker 3
Make a run.
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Meg
More recently, I think Megan is more of a movement, so anyone can be a part of it. We do have organized hip that, so the movement itself is running every single Sunday to build discipline and therefore the confidence be capable of more. So I started doing it last year in January, so it's coming up to almost two years.
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Meg
Yeah. So I started running by myself every Sunday because I just wanted to do something consistently rain or shine, no matter how I felt that I had to show up to for myself. By myself. And it's actually it was a lot harder when I was doing it by myself. But I also realized that it people would always ask me when I moved to the Gulf Coast, people were always asking me to go out on a Saturday night.
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Meg
And I'm not I'm a huge part of your I didn't really enjoy it, but that was the only way I was meeting new people. Yeah, I was a super surface level and not really about anything or making friends friendships. And I wasn't really meeting people that I click to it. And I think it's because most of those people were sleeping on a Saturday so that I can go and do whatever activity that I do on a Sunday.
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Meg
And people would always pester me to come out on Saturday. And then I when I started saying, I'm sorry, I'm going to run tomorrow, it was just like, Oh, okay, that's all good. Yeah. Who are leaving now? I really wish I figured this out earlier.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Meg
And then that was when I actually met my now husband. He came for running with me because he saw me going for a run every Sunday and asked to do it. And he said when I told him why I was doing it and he said, You should share it with more people. Yes, it's a new concept and but we didn't have any intention to make it what it needs now.
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Meg
We just thought we'll see if anyone else wants to come. So we asked our friends and then random people started showing up. It was so cool.
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Meg
And then random people started showing up. And then from that we realized just how much someone coming for the first time and running further than they thought they could. Yeah, they just it's almost an aura of confidence afterwards, and that's how it makes me feel. But I just didn't realize it would do the same for other people. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Meg
And I think that. So Meghan is running up to ten KS every Sunday, or at least trying to run ten guys every Sunday. And I think the tank is an attainable distance. You could come and I could get you to run ten KS if you've never done it before. Yeah, it might not be very fun. But I believe that you can do it off the back.
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Meg
It's not much training. Yeah. I think a distance, like a half marathon, it's best to put in a bit of traffic so. Yeah, and then people asked to for me to bring them in to Brisbane because I was originally from Brisbane, Redlands area and so we did that on a Saturday because obviously we can be in two places at once.
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Meg
And then from that people just started asking to have one in Melbourne and other places as well. So I said, okay, well we'll have a crack. And then a lot of that was a lot of locations all at once. And then we've just learned so much along the way. So we never plan on making something that makes money or anything, right?
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Meg
So of course I'd like to build something that supports it off the back because we want to make an income myself as well, apart from social media partnerships. But Mega on itself, we just didn't want to be any barrier to entry because running changes lives and we just want to show people that it is and they can win selves.
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Callum
And I think.
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Meg
I answered your question, I just went, Wow.
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Speaker 3
It's good design said.
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Callum
It, answered it, and I think that's what like my story was coming through is like I, I've run before, right? So I rocked out with my friend and he wanted to hit a PB on the tank and he's like, I'm running mate, this beggar on Cruz. I actually got there that everyone's energy was so hot. It's like 6:00 in the morning.
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Callum
I've just woken up, everyone's jumping, doing the Megatron. I was like, All right, let's go anyway. Just vibes haha. We're all running together. But it's not like the support that community. Yeah, if it were like everyone was there for the same reason to better themselves and like the chats that I was hearing while I was running, it's like, you've got this, you can do this.
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Callum
I love like coming on my way back and they're running in a line together pushing this girl who never run, I think. Yeah. And I.
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Emily
Feel goosebumps.
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Callum
When I finish real, when it go to coffee. I was like.
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Speaker 3
The hell are you guys? This is so.
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Callum
Sick. We need more of this. Like, yeah. So that was my first experience of it and I loved it. That idea of like, just morale just pushing together and we need more of it. There's so many people who do things alone, and if you had someone to, like, encourage you to show support and to show truly what you are capable of doing and your confidence would boost, and I think you'd begin to change.
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Callum
But what running teaches ultimately is that discipline side of things is that you can do hard things yeah.
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Emily
And I love that it's free.
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Callum
Yeah. Yeah. Inclusive. You don't you don't have an excuse dog. Like, what is your excuse? Yeah. I'll pick you up like a piggyback.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Meg
You guys are the best. I think it's great that you had that experience, too. I really appreciate that you guys can talk from your own experience at Garage because one, I think that I think that everyone has an entitled we just have fun with the passion about them. Yeah. And if we can give people that one and time a week when they know they can just come and be completely themselves, it doesn't mean they have to be that super jacked human beings.
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Meg
Yeah. There has been so many occasions where someone's worked up for the first time on their phone sitting like this went up and we've got to grab them and introduce them to some people. And they've been the last person to leave the cafe yeah. So yeah, if you can give people a little nudge and put them in that, just drop them in the deep end where they have to talk to people, then they end up actually really enjoying it.
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Meg
And I also think one important thing about Meg Ryan is because we live in that instant gratification world, no one knows that it will. Not many people know how important discipline is. So people will start doing something in the short term, but they don't realize that the things, the long term things that are going to provide that fulfillment and not just the highs and lows.
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Emily
Yeah.
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Meg
I do discipline in order to have so doing consistently. Meg Ryan every single Sunday and how you feel it just teaches you to start letting your mind negotiate you out of doing things or sticking out things because really every time you say, Okay, I'm going to do this and then don't it's slack. You are degrading yourself or disrespecting yourself and letting yourself accept less than what you think you are.
00:18:01:13 - 00:18:30:24
Meg
And so that having that one thing as non-negotiable trickles into the rest of your life as well. You, when you go to do the dishes and then you think I'll do it later, instead you just do it then, then America and all of a sudden go, Oh, I'm actually a really disciplined person. And then you bring that on as one of your traits and so people just to completely change, not like they have the confidence to go and get out of jobs that they don't necessarily lock and go and pursue your passion, which is the best thing.
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Meg
That's I mean, that's what I do it for and that's what all the other hop let's do it for the kids. Even encouraging people who come along and encouraged other people for the first time like we saw with that go, it also gives you that really good feeling of, wow, I just hope someone which you don't really get to do very often in life.
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Meg
Yeah. Unless you do volunteer work somewhere. So I think it's a really cool complementary thing where you can do it for yourself, but then you also can help others at the same time.
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Emily
And I think speaking on that kind of like, you know, you stay in a job you kind of hate and you know, you don't have the confidence to push outside the boundaries. It's like actually like, you know, you're speaking from experience, right? Because I know you were a personal trainer before you started Make a Run or like before you kind of took up full time and you were also studying physio and all of the things.
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Emily
And it's like you chose to step outside the comfort zone. You chose from being comfy and like, you know, you would have been earning or earning money and all of the things to nail pushing towards make a run because that's something you're so passionate about. Run us through what kind of like where you are at.
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Meg
Okay, that is a really good question because that was probably the scariest of course, because I didn't when I was growing up, I was very academic. I wasn't sure enough sleep, but I didn't do much else apart from that. I just trained and studied and because I was smart at school and I mean, I love science, I really believe in university for science degrees and that sort of thing.
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Meg
But I think we all thought as kids because I have two sisters. My older sister is a doctor, my own sister is a nurse. Yes. And I was doing physio. So we all end up in science fields. But I think growing up actually thought I was going to be a vet. I always wanted to be a vet. I don't know I but I just, I just thought that was what I was going to be.
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Meg
And then I towards the end of my school career, I just thought I'm probably not smart enough to be that. I think school sometime can give you a bit of a closed minded that's the only thing I've wished. I love my school. I went to such an incredible school, but I wish that we had a little bit more, I guess, a better perspective on the possibilities of creative fields so that we could think of, Okay, if I want to be a vet, I'm just going arts for a year and then get a really good grade and get into that space.
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Meg
But anyways, I did actually get into that, but I had already done my Bachelor an exercise in nutrition science because that was my second passion was fitness and health. And then I thought, Okay, well, it's five years out. It got it and that's a lot of time and in the middle of nowhere. So I thought, well, I'll go and try, try working in a vet and see if I like, in reality a good job, which is the best thing that I ever did.
00:21:18:07 - 00:21:21:14
Meg
And I think that if, if someone has to do a career.
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Speaker 3
I mean.
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Meg
You should do it. Just go and try because at least if you go and try it, then you're not going to be thinking about it for the rest of your life. Should I have gone and done it? Yeah. You don't go to waste five years studying when and then come and go, why do I do that? And then you're already committed to it.
00:21:38:14 - 00:22:01:24
Meg
So when is it my toes in? And I actually really enjoyed it. I just realized the reality of drugs are different to what I thought it was. So I didn't study. You didn't choose to study that, which is a big decision. And then I thought, Okay, great. I have no idea what I want to do. I'm still doing all my social media fitness stuff on the side, but I never thought that I would make a career out of it.
00:22:02:02 - 00:22:23:11
Meg
And then my physio at the time said that I would be a really great physio and he would have loved to have me at his practice. So then I went and studied physio. If I went and studied. So I would have started and just thought, Okay, well, I'll just see if I like it. Yeah, yeah. And did not like it.
00:22:23:11 - 00:22:47:05
Meg
Everyone in the classroom and everyone just was so passionate about it and I just thought, okay, the only thing that is scarier than taking a risk in doing something else is having to do this for the rest of your life and that would suck. So then that's when I met my husband, but we didn't know we were obviously going to be husband he said to me, Well, why are you doing if you don't like it?
00:22:47:05 - 00:23:11:23
Meg
And I just thought, Oh, well, I don't really know. I don't know what else I would do. And then urged me to just start trialing other things. And that's when I went into party and then I got signed by Gymshark. So that gave me a lot more flexibility to do whatever I wanted with. And that's when I started to go hard with Meghan and backed off on Peaty and yeah, that's where I'm at now.
00:23:11:23 - 00:23:33:23
Meg
And still, I still think that I've always had an entrepreneurial mindset. It comes to my dad, so I've I, before I even met my husband, I used to, I said, I think I'm going to meet someone that's going to teach me how to put my business mind into action. So I just didn't want much of that business. And then it's so weird because it actually happened, but I used to set all the time to my mum.
00:23:33:23 - 00:23:40:00
Meg
I don't know if that's a manifestation of what it is, but I used to say it all the time. I just didn't realize it was human to it until I met him.
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Emily
So, so.
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Speaker 3
So call let's.
00:23:46:03 - 00:23:49:06
Meg
Try lots of different things and to get out to what I love.
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Emily
Yeah, and I think that is it, isn't it? And like even speaking on like in school and those sort of things and like I don't know about you Meg, but like, you know, having siblings who, who go to study on and have, you know, quote unquote these like dream careers or maybe there's like an expectation they're in people's families of just like, like, you know, all of those things.
00:24:11:09 - 00:24:28:11
Emily
It's like it's so cool to to hear you kind of not, I guess, you know, going against the norm or whatever, because I think that that's so important for especially like we're all the same age or roughly it's like I just feel like growing up, it was such a big thing in school to be like going to uni or.
00:24:28:11 - 00:24:31:04
Emily
Yeah, and yeah, it's just like, yeah.
00:24:31:06 - 00:24:49:12
Callum
There's a correlation almost of like, you know, if you're, if you're just in the same job and you're comfortable, then are you going to be like comfortable, you know, stepping out and doing something that's scary or like, are you going to get out? And like you said, like, go and do something crazy, jump out of plane, you know, for all of that.
00:24:49:21 - 00:24:54:22
Callum
Um, it's super interesting. Like the psychology behind all of that. I'm sure there's some doctor out there who knows.
00:24:54:22 - 00:24:56:20
Emily
The yeah, maybe you can tell us. Yeah.
00:24:57:03 - 00:25:22:10
Callum
Me to that, um, with, with all of the the stuff you do from being in The Hurt Locker, from doing a 12 hour race to doing a double marathon and you just brushed briefly on, um, you know, your study in sports nutrition. What is, what is eating for that like health look like to you. What is it like to feel your body and, you know, how do you even go about day to day life eating.
00:25:23:11 - 00:25:54:17
Meg
Like a good question, like going and studying nutrition. It definitely makes you more cautious about your decisions that you make with food. But I would stay eat for health because I stay at school and I have friends to struggle with restrictive dieting and unhealthy eating habits. And I just think it's such a shame because food is so that to nourish our bodies and to be employed but unfortunately, that's just such a negative.
00:25:56:02 - 00:26:19:12
Meg
I guess there's so many negative behaviors around it. So I just try really hard to share authentically with people what I do so that they're not going on and trying to buy these diet plans that they stick to for two weeks and then end up binging and everything like that. But I guess me, what are the things that I choose to eat is over years and years, which unfortunately is not the answer.
00:26:19:12 - 00:26:37:05
Meg
People like it takes time to figure out what works for you. I have figured out what I like to eat and what works and me, but I think the best thing to do is figure out the things that you love eating and then just make a healthy version of it. So the best way to eat is as raw and unprocessed as possible.
00:26:37:05 - 00:27:03:17
Meg
And if you can afford to do so, it organically because it it really does make a difference. I've studied a lot of the ways that meats and or and any vegetables vegetables are farmed these days and it's quite a shame. I understand why it is because we have such a high demand, but it's not the nutrient contents in foods now.
00:27:03:17 - 00:27:28:16
Meg
It's just nowhere near the level that they used to be because the demand is so high. So my recommendation is always eat as we're in, as raw and unprocessed as possible and figure out how to make that enjoyable for yourself. So some people love chocolate. Okay. We'll have a 97 90% dark chocolate and enjoy it every time you have it or I dark chocolate most days because that's my thing.
00:27:28:16 - 00:27:30:01
Meg
I love chocolate.
00:27:30:01 - 00:27:30:10
Emily
Literally.
00:27:30:11 - 00:27:31:10
Callum
Worth chunky go.
00:27:31:16 - 00:27:32:08
Meg
Lucky girl for.
00:27:33:01 - 00:27:33:06
Speaker 3
Me.
00:27:33:15 - 00:27:40:22
Meg
It's the best of my luck. The bag is all chips. That's usually the ultimate option.
00:27:41:05 - 00:27:44:08
Emily
Yes, like savory. If you're not sweet, you definitely like a burger chip go.
00:27:45:05 - 00:28:00:06
Meg
Well then just figure out how to make it healthy because that's, that's your long term. That's what you want to enjoy your food in the long term or else you're not going to have it, but you want to get the best out of it. But I don't know what you mean in terms of prices I think.
00:28:01:07 - 00:28:06:14
Callum
Yeah, you definitely answered the question in a sense of like, yeah, I know you're a believer of eating for, you know, eating for health.
00:28:06:15 - 00:28:14:14
Emily
And I think it's important to talk about because like, yeah, I mean, in our society, right, we're very much that, that diet culture or restrictive eating.
00:28:14:14 - 00:28:20:11
Callum
And if you were to say what is healthy eating looks like that. Well, I had a salad and I split an ice cube. Like, you know, it's like.
00:28:21:01 - 00:28:24:10
Meg
There is some people who will eat junk food and look really thin.
00:28:24:10 - 00:28:25:03
Callum
Side of it. Yeah.
00:28:25:15 - 00:28:27:03
Meg
Kids are not going to be. Exactly.
00:28:27:07 - 00:28:34:21
Emily
And I love that you said eat for health. It's like, how is your brain? How is the insides? Like, how is your body responding to what you're eating?
00:28:34:21 - 00:28:48:08
Callum
And especially like longevity, like you could eat McDonald's and you could still be jacked and like be ripped, but like eat McDonald's for 20 years, man. And like insides your chemicals, your body imbalances, like not good.
00:28:49:06 - 00:28:49:19
Speaker 3
Interesting.
00:28:50:11 - 00:28:56:07
Meg
That's a good one, too. The gut brain accident. So eating that's what I thought was probably the thing that.
00:28:56:07 - 00:28:56:24
Callum
I got by.
00:28:57:20 - 00:29:12:06
Meg
Intuition. Yeah. In my nutrition degree is when you eat safe eating McDonald's all the time, you actually bacteria changes and those bacteria release neurotransmitters to your brain. So your psychology, whether you realize it or not, is actually being affected in the.
00:29:12:06 - 00:29:32:05
Emily
Long term usually. And this is where like even if we were to talk about like anxiety and depression, right? Like, you know, I don't want to delve too hot into it, but like this is exactly why it's so important to feel your body for your brain, for your gut. Like so that those types of things, you know, we can we can slowly but surely or at least just help ourself.
00:29:32:08 - 00:29:33:05
Emily
Yeah, with that.
00:29:33:15 - 00:29:37:13
Callum
Definitely. And if you're feeling good on the inside, you're outside, you're glowing.
00:29:37:15 - 00:29:38:04
Emily
You're going.
00:29:38:11 - 00:29:39:08
Speaker 3
Oh, and this.
00:29:39:15 - 00:29:43:07
Emily
Wave like so run us through why you're like based.
00:29:43:07 - 00:29:44:12
Callum
Upon let run us through.
00:29:45:01 - 00:30:06:23
Emily
That's okay. That's good. That's really good. They run us through kind of like you're like you're doing absolutely everything. And I love that because it shows that you can, you can be a runner. You can do a mountain biking race, you can do gymnastics, you can do it all. And it's just like so cool to actually see you being like, hey, we don't just have to, like, be the runner we don't just have to be the mountain biker.
00:30:07:01 - 00:30:16:05
Emily
It's like, what? Why do you believe training is so important? And like, why do you believe that having a variety, like of training regimes under your belt important?
00:30:17:14 - 00:30:29:13
Meg
Um, well, I think the way that I train and so that I can do random things. Yeah. I want to mention that if you want to be the best at whatever it is you probably need to just.
00:30:30:04 - 00:30:31:20
Speaker 3
Stick to that. Yeah, yeah.
00:30:32:05 - 00:31:04:10
Meg
You want to be on no one ever going to be the best mountain bike. Yeah, but we wanted to you'd need to put most athletes. Yeah, but I just like to train. I was so trained to know you're capable, so I, I'm constantly I combined my training during the week of running, and then I have sprints, and then I'll do functional training so that my core is strong, upper body strong, and I just do a mix of training so that then if I want to go and do a big race in the week and I can.
00:31:04:24 - 00:31:06:21
Emily
Yeah, I don't have to train for it or.
00:31:07:08 - 00:31:33:11
Meg
Yeah, well, I mean, I train every week for it, but I'm not training. So since specifically. Yeah, but ultimately I probably should do a little bit more ultra training if I'm going to be doing these big races, but it's fun to just do it spontaneously as well. And you are, you are somewhat gambling with getting injured, but I just believe that I do enough training during my weeks prevent those injuries because I'm strong.
00:31:33:13 - 00:31:34:03
Emily
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:34:12 - 00:31:34:18
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:31:35:04 - 00:31:44:18
Meg
I'm a very balanced body. So yeah, I just think that I know my body. I know how far I can push it. Yeah. My brain, which things? It's more.
00:31:45:21 - 00:31:46:02
Speaker 3
You.
00:31:46:11 - 00:31:52:24
Meg
Know, so if you put in the work in your everyday life, then you can do more spontaneous things, which is why I.
00:31:53:06 - 00:31:53:16
Speaker 3
Do that.
00:31:54:05 - 00:32:10:08
Callum
I think like what you said is it's like you just owned it then like, you know, your body's it's like an affirmation, like, I am strong, I'm capable, you know, anybody can do. And I think that's awesome. How important is, is like challenging yourself, like stepping out of your comfort zone and like I'm similar to the way I train.
00:32:10:09 - 00:32:27:08
Callum
Like I usually do powerlifting and I just recently did a half marathon and, you know, people in the gym may like your powerlifter. You're not a marathon runner. It's like you just challenge me. I'm like, why can't I be fitting into all these boxes? Like you said, how important is it to challenge not only mind but your body?
00:32:29:02 - 00:32:53:08
Meg
Well, for me, I just love it. It's what I live for. I love staying. I just think I've been given there's so many people who haven't been given the blessings in their bodies that I have. So I just think I want to absolutely live and inspire people as much as I can. What I've been given but I think what I was going to say, which I, I'd have in terms of.
00:32:53:23 - 00:32:57:10
Emily
A quite so important to to push your body and push your mind.
00:32:58:15 - 00:33:20:04
Meg
Oh, oh, this is not as I can say it sometimes. Sometimes it's not necessarily the physical challenge that is as hard for me now because I love it so much. And I know I know what I get from it. Sometimes it'll be if I get injured and take my dog, that is what are you harder than just doing continuously training?
00:33:20:04 - 00:33:39:09
Meg
So a lot of people I give I give you advice to hospitals if they get injured or other people at the runs. And that is normally what they struggle with most as well. And my advice is, well, you got to use it to focus on something else. You got to challenge yourself in a different way, whether that means you never read ever.
00:33:39:10 - 00:33:43:05
Meg
Okay. Well, every time that you would normally train, let's focus on reading.
00:33:43:05 - 00:33:43:15
Speaker 3
Or.
00:33:44:08 - 00:33:59:20
Meg
Finish your course doing a slow training or whatever it is, you just have to laugh is always going to throw curveballs at us and we just have to learn how to adapt. That's the only it's what humans are meant to do, but it's the only way to handle things.
00:33:59:20 - 00:34:23:10
Emily
Yeah, actually. And it's so cool that, you know, it's just so cool to watch you and listen to you actually have such a positive outlook on it because I do find like even, you know, you were just saying before that you were that that type of person, it was just like, oh, like a bit negative bit this bit that and I want to actually touch on you becoming a Gymshark athlete.
00:34:23:18 - 00:34:30:14
Emily
How was that feeling? Like firstly, this is so massive how it was. Yeah. How is it feeling?
00:34:31:14 - 00:35:05:17
Meg
Um, well, I'm actually not signed with them anymore. That is a decision that I made. No, no negativity. Either way. I just was at a point where I wanted to have a break partnership. But when I first got signed, it was so incredible. I just I feel like that was always something that I spoke about. I think actually I think I was signed with the brand in previous and that didn't end well, and it wasn't a great experience when I remember the saying, Oh, well, I'll just, I'll just get signed as a Gymshark athlete, as a joke to myself, not to anyone else.
00:35:06:00 - 00:35:24:03
Meg
And then I remember thinking that was actually achievable. I should just just have a crack at doing it. And then I think I just I don't even remember how it happened, but I just kept I I think I wore a couple of gymshark things, and then they reached out, and I couldn't believe it. It was amazing. It was there an incredible brand.
00:35:24:03 - 00:35:31:22
Meg
The story was incredible. And I was so generous, and i loved my experience at the moment. So many great people to.
00:35:31:24 - 00:35:43:06
Emily
So that's amazing. That's amazing. Okay, well, then I want to talk about the events that you are competing in at the moment. So you have something coming out this weekend. What are you doing?
00:35:44:14 - 00:36:05:11
Meg
It's called the turnover. 24. So we, it's, we're not expecting to be overly competitive in it, but we'll have a crack. Yeah. We of more just doing it because we want to challenge ourselves. And we were doing an a start my husband and I, and we have so much fun when we're in that locker together and pushing the boundaries.
00:36:05:11 - 00:36:31:05
Meg
That's why we get along so well. But it's a combination of kayaking, mountain biking and running. But you have to navigate to certain checkpoints so it's got I haven't done a race with orienteering before and we'll see how it goes, but you'll never get to a certain point by the mountain bike. They get ticked off or run to the next point or whatever it is, which will be a lot of fun.
00:36:31:05 - 00:36:45:02
Meg
But we had Red Bull to France last weekend, which is why we decided to do this this weekend, because we loved it so much. It was such a fun ride. So yeah, we're a bit hooked on the endurance racing, but we do have a few more scenes at the end of the year as well.
00:36:45:14 - 00:36:47:15
Emily
So Sick do to remember orienteering.
00:36:47:21 - 00:36:49:17
Callum
On set, which I do was terrible.
00:36:50:00 - 00:36:51:13
Emily
Horrific at camp.
00:36:51:13 - 00:36:53:11
Callum
Maybe you just didn't understand that though.
00:36:54:13 - 00:36:55:13
Emily
Yeah, that's probably.
00:36:56:08 - 00:36:58:12
Speaker 3
Hopefully if I just remember.
00:36:59:02 - 00:37:02:09
Meg
The navigator William is going to be the navigator. So it's a little bit.
00:37:02:16 - 00:37:18:20
Callum
Like, Oh, so good with like being if we're not going to a new country geographically, I'll be put on that. And it's like I'm, I think I'm good at maps and like everything and it was like, you got to walk a somewhat that's a while. But I know this stuff. I want to get to orienteering. I'm like.
00:37:19:21 - 00:37:22:03
Speaker 3
I know what the hell topographically.
00:37:22:03 - 00:37:41:05
Emily
That's kind of like as well. Like I am one of my like friends sister who is older than us. Like they had a diary she was telling me she had a diary of like maps so she'd like because phones weren't around. Old Google Maps wasn't around. Yeah. She'd like have to be like, you know, turn left.
00:37:41:05 - 00:37:41:11
Callum
On.
00:37:41:11 - 00:37:44:16
Speaker 3
Howard yeah. Oh, like, think about me.
00:37:45:13 - 00:37:50:05
Meg
Is that what you made? Do you not do that when you were a kid, your parents?
00:37:50:08 - 00:37:52:04
Speaker 3
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:37:52:13 - 00:37:54:13
Callum
I mean, I remember being in the car like.
00:37:55:00 - 00:37:55:20
Emily
Like I don't think so.
00:37:55:20 - 00:37:59:14
Callum
Yeah, but I think it was just more like I could make my finger to the page.
00:38:00:09 - 00:38:01:13
Meg
On the next page. Yeah.
00:38:02:01 - 00:38:04:24
Callum
You'd be like, yeah. I go to be like, yeah, yeah.
00:38:05:07 - 00:38:06:02
Emily
Braking. Yeah.
00:38:06:03 - 00:38:08:04
Callum
Oh, I'm so grateful for maps.
00:38:08:04 - 00:38:24:16
Emily
Yeah, I am. I'm very grateful. Oh, what is someone that inspires you every day? And the next question on top of that is, who is someone that inspired you or still does or okay.
00:38:25:01 - 00:38:49:01
Meg
This is a bit different, but every day it's funny because he's sitting in the room, but it's my husband would be the person because he he just he's like me. But the more experienced version of me, I'm starting the managers to look at things, everything. Nothing is a problem. He's so positive and is just able to is a solution.
00:38:49:01 - 00:38:56:05
Meg
Complete solutions, mindset. So even sometimes when I get stressed, he's just totally fine the whole time.
00:38:56:12 - 00:39:01:04
Speaker 3
I just I'm just leaving but.
00:39:01:04 - 00:39:02:22
Emily
Ego is high at the moment.
00:39:02:23 - 00:39:03:14
Callum
That's wholesome.
00:39:04:00 - 00:39:10:04
Speaker 3
That is. We've been doing that while I was in here, middle school, flustered but.
00:39:10:04 - 00:39:23:21
Meg
Then I would say outside of that, obviously my parents are the best humans ever. Yeah. If you want someone a little bit more well-known because no one can manipulate these people obviously love David Goggins. I just think.
00:39:23:22 - 00:39:24:08
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.
00:39:25:01 - 00:39:38:24
Meg
We're perfect example of taking laughs as what he was giving and making out of it. And he I think he, because he is so strong in what he believes, he does rub a lot of people up the wrong way.
00:39:39:00 - 00:39:40:10
Speaker 3
Yeah, but love that.
00:39:40:10 - 00:40:03:06
Meg
I think if you believe so strongly in what you're doing because not everyone is going to like you. And of course if we do what you want to do, but he's so strict in his own life, so, and, and he's been able to just not make any excuses. And they're the kinds of people that I really relate to because he had every excuse to use the future too.
00:40:04:18 - 00:40:08:09
Meg
And he still does even now. It's not like he's living this crazy luxurious.
00:40:08:09 - 00:40:09:09
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:09:13 - 00:40:12:07
Callum
He's still grinding it that that what he's passionate about.
00:40:13:03 - 00:40:34:09
Emily
Yeah, I love that. I love that. Because, like, I think in order to I think you have to be polarizing in order to magnetize. Like, I think you have to you have to be polarizing. You have to be passionate. You have to in order to magnetize like so for Megatron, as an example, it's like you're so polarizing in that way in the best possible way of you just being like, this is it like do it.
00:40:34:09 - 00:40:39:17
Emily
And that is what gets so many people in yeah.
00:40:40:00 - 00:40:43:05
Meg
It's a it's because we believe wholeheartedly in it.
00:40:43:07 - 00:40:45:24
Emily
Yeah, exactly. You're passionate. What is next for Megatron?
00:40:46:00 - 00:40:46:22
Callum
Authenticity.
00:40:48:07 - 00:41:23:09
Meg
Yeah, that is where we got it. Authenticity. What is next? Megatron. Okay. Well, I would add up until now, we've got 12 set out locations acts, meaning the organize locations where everyone comes together. But I would like to just encourage people to get into Mega One more as a movement so that it's not excuse me, it's not limited by where you ask people can wake up and do their Megatron every Sunday because I really just believe that if you didn't commit to doing your mega on every Sunday, your, your whole life will change.
00:41:23:11 - 00:41:50:22
Meg
And obviously it's better if you are around like minded people because then you make new friends as well. But even just by posting it on social media and that sort of thing, people around you will start to say, Hey, can I come and join you? Every Sunday? And I mean, that's how it happened to me. So if people start getting more involved in doing it by themselves and I think naturally new locations will emerge just by people doing it themselves.
00:41:52:06 - 00:42:26:02
Meg
Yeah. So I think that's the main Megatron. We do have a couple of things that a couple of visions that we have for it long term, but I won't say anything yet, so I just hate to say things and then them not come to fruition. So stay tuned for that one. But yeah, I think for me I'll just keep working on I'm in discussion with a couple of friends that I've already actively used and potential partnerships coming, but yeah, it's stage to just keep going hard with Megatron, keep racing and that's not.
00:42:27:04 - 00:42:46:10
Callum
And I'm so sick being someone with, you know, influencing what you're saying that you look up to David Goggins and I know a lot of people who follow you and I would say you're a person of influence and inspiration and you've got, you know, you've got the influence. What, what's something you want the world to know? Tell the world something you know, what would that be?
00:42:48:11 - 00:42:52:03
Meg
Oh, well, obviously you are capable of so much more than what you think.
00:42:52:03 - 00:42:52:11
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:42:53:10 - 00:43:15:21
Meg
And I would also say that your power lies within your just being. Yes. Completely, because everyone is so afraid of trying to be everyone else or trying to make other people happy and that's why everyone is so disconnected to who they are because they're trying to make everyone else happy. Who's also there is people are trying to do the same.
00:43:15:21 - 00:43:24:07
Meg
So it's very confusing so you have to cope with so much more than you think and just be yourself. It's it's your it's your biggest power.
00:43:24:24 - 00:43:25:24
Emily
I've got goosebumps.
00:43:26:15 - 00:43:27:13
Speaker 3
Oh, she's good.
00:43:27:20 - 00:43:28:18
Callum
I want to go for a run.
00:43:28:19 - 00:43:31:01
Emily
She knows that she's talking about this. Chickie, we.
00:43:31:01 - 00:43:32:11
Callum
Are running to sushi for lunch.
00:43:34:01 - 00:43:43:24
Emily
You are actually amazing. Meg, before we go, we normally have a little game which is just fast five. We talk, we ask you five questions, and you just have to think and just go.
00:43:44:18 - 00:43:45:03
Speaker 3
Okay.
00:43:48:02 - 00:43:50:02
Callum
What is your dream? Enduro race.
00:43:52:01 - 00:43:55:22
Meg
Our race. Oh, probably the hottest culture in the world.
00:43:56:23 - 00:43:58:13
Speaker 3
Not enough on a curriculum.
00:43:59:06 - 00:44:03:22
Emily
You don't have to commit. You don't have to commit. If you could make anyone dead or alive, who would it be?
00:44:05:11 - 00:44:08:19
Meg
Oh, I think in my head, I just. Look, David Attenborough.
00:44:09:10 - 00:44:11:13
Speaker 3
Who he coached. Well. Well.
00:44:11:19 - 00:44:13:09
Meg
I think he knows things.
00:44:13:09 - 00:44:16:01
Emily
Yeah. Literally that we don't know things. That we don't.
00:44:16:01 - 00:44:20:13
Callum
And can write them so sweetly. What's one thing you're looking forward to in the future?
00:44:21:17 - 00:44:22:14
Meg
Oh, baby.
00:44:23:18 - 00:44:28:21
Speaker 3
You're oh, we love that.
00:44:29:06 - 00:44:31:11
Callum
So I can see that they're great. They're beautiful.
00:44:31:15 - 00:44:32:08
Speaker 3
Yeah, well.
00:44:33:02 - 00:44:40:08
Emily
If you had to nominate the same meal for the rest of your life, what would it be? Oh.
00:44:43:01 - 00:44:46:04
Meg
Probably salmon in a salad.
00:44:46:18 - 00:44:53:11
Emily
That's so hard to answer that question. You just nailed that. What would you be providing yeah.
00:44:53:14 - 00:44:54:08
Callum
The sushi.
00:44:54:23 - 00:44:56:16
Speaker 3
Really? Yeah.
00:44:57:18 - 00:45:03:09
Callum
I went, like, a little nigiri myself, I believe. What's your guilty pleasure.
00:45:04:19 - 00:45:06:22
Meg
Or dark chocolate or peanut butter?
00:45:08:02 - 00:45:11:11
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean, yeah, literally. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:13:03 - 00:45:16:03
Emily
And let's just go throw in a six year power or Gatorade.
00:45:17:08 - 00:45:18:08
Meg
Well, Karen.
00:45:18:15 - 00:45:21:02
Callum
Sam, what flavor? What flavor?
00:45:21:12 - 00:45:24:07
Meg
Well, I don't really drink that much except when I'm writing.
00:45:24:08 - 00:45:26:05
Callum
Yeah, okay. You take anything at that point?
00:45:26:21 - 00:45:34:07
Meg
Yeah, that's true. We had one on the weekend. That was pink. I think it was lemon. And something strawberry ice.
00:45:34:15 - 00:45:35:05
Callum
That's going to be.
00:45:35:11 - 00:45:37:09
Emily
A little it was used to just be like blue.
00:45:37:09 - 00:45:38:20
Speaker 3
Yellow, red. Okay. Yeah, like.
00:45:39:10 - 00:45:39:24
Callum
I'm exactly.
00:45:40:02 - 00:45:40:14
Speaker 3
Block.
00:45:41:02 - 00:45:41:18
Meg
Crazy.
00:45:41:21 - 00:45:43:20
Emily
I bet. Yeah. Just what you needed.
00:45:44:12 - 00:45:57:01
Meg
Yeah, well, you invest in races when you get the food, you. It tastes so much better than when you have got in real life. And we ate these biscuits in a race, and then we had in real life things, you know, going to taste amazing. And they were.
00:45:57:02 - 00:45:57:10
Callum
Trying.
00:45:57:15 - 00:46:00:19
Speaker 3
Not the same. No. Yeah.
00:46:00:22 - 00:46:06:17
Callum
Oh, Meg, where would we find you? Where can people find you on your platform slash everything?
00:46:07:08 - 00:46:21:23
Meg
Awesome. Well, my social media is just the best place for amazing screams at Meg Sutherland, so I'm now I'm on it, but I'm still struggling on Instagram. And then, like, on at the Mega Run, that's where you find us, honestly.
00:46:21:23 - 00:46:37:09
Emily
And I like I can encourage everyone to jump on Mega Run and Meg's like personal Instagram because seriously, you put out so much inspiring content. We just like we literally love it. And I just know so many of my clients also like my clients, some of my clients are actually dead that I'm interviewing. Yeah.
00:46:37:09 - 00:46:40:18
Speaker 3
So it's not so sweet.
00:46:40:24 - 00:46:42:09
Emily
Thank you so much for joining.
00:46:42:09 - 00:46:42:24
Speaker 3
Us, Kelly.
00:46:43:01 - 00:46:43:21
Callum
That was so much fun.
00:46:44:06 - 00:46:46:11
Meg
Thank you for having me. It's been great.
00:46:47:10 - 00:46:48:14
Speaker 3
Bye bye.