The Sacred Womb with Melanie Swan
For women who want to navigate perimenopause as a powerful recalibration into truth, love and sovereignty — and thrive in the second half of life.
This podcast began as a deep dive into somatic womb healing, attachment repair, menstrual cycle wisdom and soul-deep transformation — and those foundations remain in the first 75 episodes.
As I've moved deeper into my own perimenopause, the podcast has evolved with me.
Now, The Sacred Womb Podcast centres perimenopause as initiation — a sacred destruction that burns away what is false and awakens us to what always was.
With 20+ years of clinical trauma expertise, somatic womb healing and lived experience (I'm in perimenopause right now), I offer real depth without spiritual bypassing, clinical grounding without pathologising, and honest companionship through the fire.
Expect conversations on perimenopause as a rite of passage, and what it actually takes to come home to yourself in midlife.
Hosted by Melanie Swan — Perimenopause Guide, Soul & Shadow worker and founder of The Sacred Womb — this podcast is for women 40+ who sense that something deeper is happening and are ready to meet it.
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The Sacred Womb with Melanie Swan
From Endometriosis To Natural Pregnancy: How Michelle Healed When Nothing Else Worked
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The conflicting advice around reproductive health — from conventional medicine and from the wellness world — leaves most women cycling through practitioners with no real answers. I invited Michelle on because she has done what many women are told isn't possible, and she did it by going back to the root cause.
Michelle Byrt is a natural fertility educator and founder of Get Fertile. After years of endometriosis, amenorrhea, hypothyroid, chronic fatigue, and over 50 other conditions, she had five natural periods in ten years. One year after finding the right information, she was pregnant naturally.
In this episode she shares what made things worse — including two years on a high-protein, high-fat protocol that caused significant weight gain and worsening symptoms — and exactly what turned everything around: the Medical Medium morning cleanse, removing pathogen-feeding foods, and lowering fat intake.
She also covers what to expect during the healing process (it is not linear), and the four root causes of infertility she identifies in the women she now works with: pathogens, toxins and heavy metals, low reproductive battery, and a weakened adrenal connection.
If your reproductive system has been written off, or you are still moving through the loop of endless testing and no real answers — this one is for you.
Find Michelle's fertility healing resources and e-bundle at stan.store/getfertile and on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok at @getfertile.
Melanie is an experienced Soul & Shadow Worker, Womb Medicine Woman, podcast host, writer and trainer.
For over 20 years, she has supported individuals and healing professionals to restore connection with the body, repair attachment and separation wounds, and embody primordial wisdom rooted in the womb, heart and soul.
Melanie's approach blends somatic womb healing, shadow integration, shamanic healing and soul-level repatterning - offering a deep and lasting pathway back to the true self.
She hosts The Sacred Womb Podcast, leads The Womb Medicine Woman Training and is currently writing her first book: The Sacred Womb - a handbook for coming home to our true nature, along with Poems For Peri-Menopause.
Welcome And Why This Story
SPEAKER_00Michelle. Hello.
SPEAKER_01Hello.
SPEAKER_00Welcome to the podcast. So you have healed endometriosis amenorrhea and 50 other uh different symptoms. So hats off to you. That's not an easy thing to do. And you got pregnant naturally and you've got a lovely, healthy, thriving baby.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, little baby girl.
Living With Amenorrhoea And Endometriosis
SPEAKER_00What's her name? Trudy. Okay. And so I've invited you on the podcast basically today because I know roughly the path that you took to heal and not only to heal, but to restore your wound centre, get pregnant, have a healthy pregnancy, feel great. And uh frankly, I I know the sort of conflicting advice that is in the general public, both in the allopathic world, traditional medicine, and also in the alternative medicine world and holistic health, it's frankly mostly a pile of nonsense. And women come to me, tell, you know, because they can't get pregnant, and it it is, you know, it is sometimes emotional stuff. And we dig deep, but at the end of the day, if there's no if there isn't really really good information about nutritional support, then it's two things working against the other. And it's really freaking hard. And I've set up of it. And the information is actually public. So it's just not in the mainstream. So I want you to tell me all about your story, how you healed, your challenges, what was easy as well. And yeah, how you help women now to just dispel these frankly just bizarre myths about fertility and nutrition and how to actually heal and get pregnant. And you're a living embodiment of that. So thank you for doing that. Thank you for being here. And let's go for it. Happy to be here. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, maybe I'll start. I'll just walk you through my story because I had a bit of a unique um combination of issues. Um, so I had endometiosis and amenorrhea, and my reproductive conditions basically started very early. Um, like when all my friends were getting their periods at age 13, 14, 15, I just mine just never came. And it wasn't until I was 20 that I got my first period. And that was that's very concerning as a teenager, and I was almost felt ashamed of it, and I would just lie to my friends, oh yeah, I got my period. I I had no idea even how a pad worked or anything because I never got one, right? And then from the age of 20 to 30, I only had five natural periods. So on average, one every two years. Um, and sometimes it was like one every three years, and then I have like one year, one year kind of thing. So it was very infrequent. But the periods that I did get because of the endometriosis were like they were excruciating, the most terrible things I've ever experienced. And I'm I'm not, I'm sure there's women that have are in a similar boat that are listening. But so I'll walk you through what it was like for me. So the first day, um excruciatingly painful cramps, so painful that I felt like I had to get through them second by second, like so I could keep my sanity, you know. You're just like, okay, just one second's over and keep going. And so this would be like three to six hours of this level of pain, 10 out of 10, worse than my experience of childbirth. And then I would get, I would lose control over my bowels almost because of the endometrial tissue there. And so I would be, I would have to be bathroom ridden for like three to six hours on the toilet. Um, and also uncontrollable urges to pee, um, very heavy bleeding. I'd often, oh, then nausea because of the pain. Um, and then I'd often actually almost every time I'd have to make myself like a little bed on the floor with a towel because I was too afraid to leave the bathroom. Oh my gosh. Just because just so it was just so bad. Um, so and then each progressive period I got, even though it was so few, were just worse and worse. And then it got to the point where when I had like the the bowel problems were starting to happen outside of periods a little bit, just some pain and discomfort there. It was pretty bad. Um, on top of that, I was dealing with hypothyroid, uh, chronic excruciating stomach pains, chronic fatigue syndrome, low iron, circulation issues. And I actually was I made a list at one point, it was like 50 plus symptoms and conditions that were just chronically plaguing me. Um and they were they were just progress progressively getting worse. So um, by the time I was 30, I got pregnant. Or sorry, I didn't get pregnant, I got married, which I got pregnant. No difference, really.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
The High Calorie Protein Trap
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. I got married and we wanted to start a family right away. And I knew, of course, it was gonna be a challenge. Um, so I I looked and I found I I had already been seeing lots of different doctors and lots of naturopaths and homeopaths and all these things. Nothing was helping me, but um I so I searched and I found this naturopath in my area that specialized in women's hormones. I thought, okay, this is gonna help me. I'm really excited, I'm gonna fix this. So uh I went to see her and she suggested maybe you have hypothalamic amenorrhea, which means basically that you probably aren't taking in enough energy to maintain a cycle. And it didn't really ring true to me because I was eating, like I wasn't a big exerciser or anything too crazy, like I didn't fit the typical bill of that kind of person. But I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna give it a try because I'm willing to try anything at this point. Like, I need to get some relief, I need to figure this out. I want to have a family. So I I went all in on the 2,500 calorie-a day high protein, high-fat diet for um two years religiously. And I even I even booked a call with the woman who wrote a book on it, and I she she helped me to like figure out how to do it and all this stuff. Like I and I joined HA groups and I was I was all in on this, and I had a calorie tracking app and I was doing it all. So during that time, Ellie, my health went from bad to just terrible. So my thyroid was so inflamed. It went from just hypothyroid to being so inflamed that I felt like I was being choked at all times. Um, I could actually see it a little bit. My chronic fatigue was through the roof. And I was, you know, how like they they tell you that green tea is good for you. So I was like, okay, so green tea was helping me get through my day. So I was actually up to 12 green teas a day just to get through it. Like I was running my own business at the time. I had to like, I still had to live my life, right? And so I was doing that. Um, I was it was getting to the point where all my issues are starting to get neurological. So restless legs, like I don't know if you ever experienced it, but I couldn't get to sleep. I could barely get through a movie. It is so it's it's more than restless legs, like you just have to move your legs all the time. It's very uncomfortable. Um, headaches. And then to top it all off, I gained 45 pounds in those two years. And I was, I I look in the mirror and I felt like I just felt so disconnected. And I just I could like I with my body and I didn't like the way I looked, and I was to the point I was met weighing myself. It was five pounds a month that I was gaining, and I was just I was just beside myself. I and I I think I did get one period during that time span, but it was the worst period of all of the periods I've ever had. Um, and it wasn't like anything was becoming regular for me or anything like that. So that's how bad it got. Um, but anyways, so eventually I was like, okay, well, this naturopath, this whole path is not working for me. I had to throw in the towel. I gave it my best try. So I I found this. A family member suggested another naturopath. And he tipped me off, said, Hey, maybe like toxins or something have something to do with what all the things you're experiencing. And I'd never heard that before. So um, as soon as I left that appointment, I I went and I searched on podcasts. And the first podcast I come across was the Medical Medium Podcast. And oh that was a spiritual experience and a turning point for my life because um I up until that point I had actually been like very health focused, and this is why I was so confused. So like I'm a chef and I transitioned out of being um like a traditional chef into running health food restaurants, then I opened my own plant-based restaurant and all this, and I had gone to health conferences, all these things, and just nothing ever really aligned and made sense for me. But when I found the medic, when I found that medical medium podcast, everything he was saying, I was just like, yes, this finally something makes sense. And and and so then I got obsessed, I got all his books, I studied them, like just nonstop. And then I just I hopped in. And so I started with, you know, the lemon water, the celery juice, heavy metal, detox smoothie, all that stuff. And um within four months, I got a period, and then three months later, I got um my second period, and then two months later I got another period, and it just kept getting, yeah, it just kept getting um closer and closer together, which I had never even had two consecutive periods in my entire life. So this was like mind-blowing to me. Um, I actually recorded all the symptoms I was experiencing before I started. Um, and then it but they just started knocking off one by one, and I just couldn't believe it. And like the chronic fatigue was just was waning. It was it was amazing. And so by 10 months, all of my period symptoms, like all the endometriosis symptoms, were completely gone. I had a completely painless, it was it was like a three and a half, four-day period. Um, and I my mind was absolutely blown because I didn't even believe women when they said that they didn't have painful periods. Like I just didn't make sense to me because I never experienced it. Um, so and then so I just kept going, and exactly one year to the date of finding that medical medium podcast, I found out that I was pregnant. And it was the most amazing, it was just the most amazing news, and it just confirmed that I when I trusted my gut that this was the right information, it like it actually, it actually was. And I just still I'm I just look at my baby girl, I'm like, wow, this isn't this is such a miracle that this information found me, and I'm so thankful for medical medium. And now I all I want to do is tell women because like they need to know, they need to know, you know.
SPEAKER_00Um, so was the was there any point, obviously you started and things started getting better. Was there any like die-off or flare-ups or moments where you thought, oh god, this feels worse today?
Finding Medical Medium And Starting
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so um one thing that I had always experienced was these out-of-the-blue, excruciating stomach pains. And um, I there was definitely kind of in the beginning a push-through phase I found with those because the celery juice would always trigger those stomach pains for me. So I just kind of said I'm just gonna keep going through it. Um, and so it took it took a good couple of months of discomfort with celery juice plus going to the bathroom a lot. Um also the periods, it's not like they were it was a linear projection of this one was better than this one and so on. It was like one would the first one might, the first one I had was pretty horrendous too. And then I noticed the bleeding got a lot heavier um before I saw any real healing. And I've talked to other women who've healed endometriosis, and it's it goes like that. Your uterus has to shed all that extra tissue and all that stuff. So you're gonna notice more bleeding and more clots in the healing process, and so you don't need to be too scared of that. Um, from my experience and the women I've talked to. So I would just tell people it's not a linear path. You're gonna notice days where you have fatigue, days where little you'll have flare-ups of symptoms you've already had. You you typically don't have new things pop up, it's usually things that you've already experienced that are gonna keep coming up again and everyone again.
SPEAKER_00But it's good to know that honestly, I've I've drank a lot of a lot of celery juice myself, and it's not always that pleasant. Um definitely stay near a bathroom for the first couple of months. Um and I mean, sometimes I felt a bit nauseous as well, and a bit like sometimes I don't want to drink it, and that kind of thing. So, but yeah, it's it's I think it's really helpful for women to know the clots are gonna come out and they're gonna have periods where the toxins do come out and it it can be really scary. Yeah, so it's really good for women to know that that's gonna happen and that it's not just like oh day one and then it starts. Um your period started getting more regular, there was kind of stuff coming out. Um celery juice, a bit uncomfortable at times, I guess. And then any other any other kind of discomforts, I guess I'm asking, so that women know what to expect and that it's not it's not that it's not working, it's just bringing everything up and out.
SPEAKER_01The the biggest one is just you you just have to go to the bathroom a lot. I mean, how else this is one thing, like how else are you gonna detox all the stuff, right? Like it you have to poop it out, you know. That's it just it just is the way it is. You know, a lot I I experienced a lot of diarrhea in the beginning. Um, and even sometimes, like every now and then now it happens, but very rarely. But um I think you just you just get you're always working through you're I'm still working through little things coming out of my liver or you know, what am I colon or whatever that might be there? And so you just have to be prepared to go to the bathroom. And maybe that means getting up earlier or or whatever, but it it will happen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Okay. And obviously with medical medium, there's there's several books and there's several different cleanses and protocols and suggestions. Which ones did you do that you found most effective at different times, or did you just stick to one?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I de I started with the morning cleanse. So that's the you start with lemon water, and then you do celery juice, and then the heavy metal detox smoothie. And I was really religious with doing that the whole way through. I feel like that's really, really powerful. Um and I did do some 369 cleanses during that time. So that's a nine-day liver flush uh that's in cleanse to heal. He describes that. So I did some of that, but uh I probably did two or three of those during that one year period. But other than that, reducing the pathogen-feeding foods was huge. So that's eggs, gluten, dairy, corn, and soy. Those are the big ones. So I got rid of those. Um, and the one that really made my chronic fatigue go down way quicker than I thought was possible was just lowering your fats. That's a huge one. And so I started off like no fats until noon, but then uh I worked up to no fats till dinner. So I was doing no fast till about six o'clock most days. Uh and then I would try and just do little clusters, cluster days, like a day here, a day there of just no fat. Uh, and then those cleanses are would be you know nine days, no fat. So lowering the fats is huge. You you you feel so much lighter, your brain works better, um, and it gives your body the ability to cleanse out what's burdening it.
SPEAKER_00And I'd love to know how you're still alive without jumping down 30 grams of protein each meal. How? How, Michelle?
Non Linear Healing And Detox Signs
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's it's crazy the mind shift because during those two years I was so protein focused. I was like, oh, I gotta get those 30 grams first thing, and so on. Um, and now I almost avoid it, to be honest. Like, I'm not, you know, heavy protein foods are just so hard on your digestive system and your liver. They thicken your blood, they make, they make it so the conditions are better for pathogens to thrive in your body. Um and honestly, you get to a point where you just crave, I just crave clean glucose now. Like I just want, we we went on a holiday and I couldn't have my heavy metal detox smoothie for a couple weeks. And that was the first thing I wanted when I come back came back. And it it it you just crave that stuff because you you you get that instant feedback of how good it feels and how much better you feel. And I just I just challenge anyone to lower those proteins and fats and just see how you feel because you might have a hump to get over first, of course. But um but but honestly, it makes a huge difference. And uh and and I'm just thriving the I'm thriving more than I ever have uh in my whole life. Even when I was a kid, I feel better than that. So it's the protein just isn't the answer that everyone thinks it is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I love that heavy metal detox movie as well. If I've been anywhere and haven't had it, I get off the plane, I'm like, oh, oh, I'm getting I'm gathering coriander and you know, and I drink it, and I tell you what, that first heavy metal detox poo is just lovely.
SPEAKER_01I love that we can talk about this.
SPEAKER_00This is like back on the morning cleanse and that combination of lemon water in the morning, I put a bit of honey in, wait a bit, celery juice, and then I feel and then that having metoxidation half an hour later, I'm just like, I am just going to sit in my apartment until boom, and it I feel so good because it just it takes everything out. It's awesome. It does.
SPEAKER_01It does.
SPEAKER_00So really, I thought, I mean, in my imagination, really, I thought you'd probably done back-to-back nine-day cleanses or something like that, but you it this is really not extreme at all. You'd done the morning cleanse, you'd eaten, taken the eggs out, which most women are eating eggs for breakfast and avocado for breakfast, um, and told that, and it's complete nonsense. And so you took all those out and just that clean.
SPEAKER_01So for me, um, I I relied heavily on smoothies. Uh that worked really well for me. So I would uh I basically do I do an hour and a half or so of morning prep every morning. So I do my normal morning routine, and then I would always prep like a spinach, a spinach smoothie, um, a berry smoothie, berry banana smoothie, and maybe another banana smoothie or an apple sauce, raw applesauce or something. And and that would get me through the day till I got home. And it actually worked great for work because I I'm a chef, so I'm on my feet and all that. And I could just sip all day. I didn't have to stop for a break or do anything. I could just keep going. Um so that worked well for me. Uh yeah, so but like it may sound extreme to some people, but it's amazing just how well it works and and how you actually feel pretty full. And oh, and the other thing I wanted to say is um a lot of us are starting out really glucose deficient. So you're gonna feel way more hungry when you're eating this way at the beginning because your body is just like you're glucose loading. Like you've got to just fill up, fill everything all your stores up again. You don't need to be afraid of eating a lot of fruit. There seems to be a lot of fear, fruit fear out there. Um, I see like about uh too much glucose making you gain weight and all this. But I actually lost 45 pounds do eating this way at a very probably a very high calorie fruit-based diet. Um, I didn't track the calories, but uh so yeah, you just just keep glucose, keep your glucose loading. It's it's all it's doing the body good. And and when you're hungry, just keep eating. Like just keep going. Um, don't don't fear that fruit.
SPEAKER_00Awesome. Okay. So what do you think is basically wrong or off track with the fertility advice most women are being given?
Morning Cleanse And Low Fat Strategy
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, there's a lot, but I think, yeah, yeah. Um to start, uh, I would say most conventional fertility experts don't understand the root cause of infertility. So that's a huge, that's a huge thing. Um, so what happens is you go to the doctor or whatever, and you're just kind of treated like a guinea pig. They, it's all guessing games. They're just like, maybe try this diet, try this supplement, maybe we'll put you on birth control to manage the symptom, maybe we'll do this, and then if this doesn't work, you can go to the next step. And then I just find you just keep doing endless testing, endless, we're doing endless testing, you're just being put around to different specialists, but you're not getting any real answers. And if you're lucky, you'll get a diagnosis, uh, so you know, endometriosis, whatever. And you think at first, like, oh, okay, an answer, an answer for why I'm struggling. But then if you dig any deeper, they don't know what's causing that, what it is. And then you just I just realize that's just a label for a group of symptoms. It's not actually telling me what is happening in my body. And so you end up going through all of these guinea pig rounds with doctors and professionals. And they say they're gonna work and then they don't work on you, and then you feel like you're broken, and you feel like you're the one case that can't be fixed. And I've talked to lots of women now struggling with infertility, and Melly, it's heartbreaking because doctors will put them through all these things, and then nothing changes, and they say, Well, you just can't get pregnant. And women will come to me and say, you know, my doctor says I can't get pregnant, or I have to do the surgery, or or name you name it. And like a doctor has no right to tell you that, you know, you you we we need to take our power back from these doctors and we need to find out how to heal.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Yeah. So awesome. So if you're listening to this, you're struggling, infertility, endometriosis, adenometriosis, amenorrhea, that's absent periods, um PCOS, uh, fibroids, uh, anything. I mean, you just gotta make some changes, and they do work. You've got to it it's like we really have to shut that noise out of the protein movement, and that's all it is. It's a movement, it's not true. Um these things that feed the pathogens that are you know maintaining the condition, and it's the heavy metals as well, isn't it? That you've gotta you gotta get them out.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. One other thing I notice uh a lot of women with infertility are struggling with, and this was a big one for me, is the adrenal connection. So we don't under, we don't realize how much we're all hyped up on adrenaline all the time now. So there's not just there's the obvious stuff, we're we're in the quickening, it's a stress, more stressful environment. Women are doing way more things than we used to. But also just it's the things we're doing. Like the caffeine coffee culture for women right now is huge. Like I go, I log into TikTok or Instagram, it's always this, you know, really nice looking lady, and she's she's mixing her coffee. This is my morning thing, and there everyone's everyone's on coffee. And if it's not coffee, it's chocolate, it's matcha, it's green tea, whatever. It's so we're all on some level of caffeine. So that's just spiking your adrenals, and and people don't realize that your adrenals are the source of a lot of your sex hormones. So, how many people are dealing with hormonal issues now? It's it's huge. It's one of anytime I make a post about hormones, that's the one that goes because everyone is dealing with some kind of hormonal imbalance. And it's because our adrenals are just constantly being poked and prodded to the point where they weaken and they they're either over overproducing or underproducing for us. Um, but besides the coffee, it's also the high-fat diets because high fat also spikes your adrenals because your adrenals, your blood gets thick every time you have a high-fat, high protein meal. And so your adrenals have to have to kick in to thin your blood so that your heart can still pump in a healthy way. Um, so we don't realize. So there's a bunch of things like this that we're all doing all the time, and we don't realize, and all there's all the truth the fads too, like cold plunging, like very intense breath work. All the health trends are pretty much just adrenal trends, and that's just making our hormones, um, it's really, it's really struggling. It's making our hormones really struggle to maintain a balance because of our adrenals. So I think that's that's one thing I tell women, like you gotta start resetting how we're thinking about what we eat, just even just based on a on an adrenal level.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So did you make any lifestyle changes? Did you discover you were kind of running on adrenaline a bit? And did you have to make some adjustments?
SPEAKER_01I did, I I did do some things. I honestly I didn't do as much as I should have. Um, because I was still running, I um I own a plant-based restaurant, so it it it just takes what it takes to run a business. And so I was still um I was still working the long days, uh, I just couldn't get around it, and I was I was still on my feet all day and running around and helping people and and all this. So, you know, ideally it would have been nice to take more rest time, but I was I was aware of it and I was fueling all day with the with the clean glucose and mineral salts and and all that. So uh I was aware of it, but I wasn't able to fully um get the rest that I needed. But it's it's it's also it's a good thing to know that you don't have to have your perfect life figured out yet to heal. Like you can you can just find what you can do to help your adrenals from going too overpowered. Um obviously I got rid of the caffeine because I was doing those 12 green cheese a day, and that wasn't easy to do at the beginning. Um yeah, but there's little things too that you can do. Like um, even if you watch TV, just uh I used to my husband and I, we can only agree on thrillers and stuff. So I decide I'm just gonna cut out the thrillers. And if I watch TV, I'm just gonna watch happy, happy things because that's even an adrenaline spike right there. Like anytime you're kind of on your seat, your your heart's racing. That's also adrenaline. So maybe there's just little things people can find in their life that if you're not, it's if it's not making you feel balanced and calm, it's probably spiking your adrenals in some way.
SPEAKER_00All right. So you mentioned your your partner, and I know you know partners can have different diets and different attitudes and different uh opinions and stuff. So, how was your partner with you being on that sort of diet and eating out and eating together? How did that go?
Why Fertility Advice Misses Root Causes
SPEAKER_01Yeah, in the beginning, he was a little more skeptical of this because at that point I had tried a lot of different things that didn't work, and he's like, Oh, is this another one of those things? Um, but I got him to read the book, The uh Cleanse to Heal. And that he was a believer after that, because that book is just mind-blowing. And and so he jumped in with me on the morning cleanse and the smoothies all day, uh, and he just started noticing a lot of health benefits. Um he's he's definitely wasn't as strict as I was, uh, and he he travels for work, so he found it really challenging to maintain the medical medium diet or medical medium protocols at least on the road. So he was definitely veering off more than I was, but he's really supportive. And when we're home, we're eating we're eating medical medium food together. So really I couldn't ask for anything better there. That was that's you know, it'd be so challenging if he wasn't on board for sure. Because it takes a lot of extra prep and it'd be tough to prep multiple dinners and all that.
SPEAKER_00Exactly, it does. And it it's it does take extra prep, it does take extra time. And sometimes when I'm doing it, I go, I go off and on it, but um, I have to be more on it now because I'm in perimenopause. Definitely my body's needing some a good clean your immune system needs a clean window and extra support. And by the way, I'm not chowing down on loads of protein and my bones are not from it, still standing. It's just hilarious how all this perpetuates, isn't it? And it's just not true. Um, but yeah, it does take extra prep and it is extra effort and it does require lifestyle changes, but I I I like well, which is most inconvenient? Just a bit of extra prep or endometriosis or painful periods or all these perimenopause symptoms as well. They just they just go as well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Well, and and and what I love about medical medium information is that it can be as complicated or as simple as you want to be. Like you can be perfectly healthy living on like potatoes and lettuce. You can do mono clans and you can heal. You or or you can go as complex as making complex, beautiful dishes that are that would win awards in a restaurant. Like it like you it just depends on how much time you have and what your preferences are. Yeah. Um, find that happy medium that will you can sustain.
SPEAKER_00I definitely won't be winning any restaurant towards my state of Steve Broccoli.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Oh, that's that's so healing and great, anyways.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Anything else you want to share with women or or let women know before we come to a close?
Adrenals Partners Root Causes Next Steps
SPEAKER_01I think just because I was so confused for so long, I'd like to just run down what is causing infertility, just to lay it all out there. Um, so so after reading all the medical meme books and studying them multiple times, I've basically narrowed it down to there's four root causes of infertility. So we have pathogens, so that's toxins like Epstein bar, strep, HHV6, and all this. And the thing about these pathogens, it's not just like, oh, you just have Epstein Barr. No, there's 60, over 60 varieties of Epstein Bar. There's over 60 varieties of strep. So this is why it's manifesting in so many different ways and so many different people. Um, so there's the pathogens. Then um, we got toxins and heavy metals, which you've touched on, but um, they're just there's way more toxins and heavy metals in our environments now than there ever have been. So this is one major cause for um for the increase in in infertility. Um and you know, chemical fragrance is a huge one that I think a lot of women can address. A lot of women are still wearing perfumes, you've got to check what are you what are you washing your clothes in. You know, I I've eliminated all chemical fragrance from my life, and I can tell now right away when someone is washing their clothes and tide or all this, because it's sound, it's so so strong where before I never noticed because I always always had chemical fragrance around me. And it's even you go to the washroom and a public washroom, there's a chemical fragrance thing on the wall, it's everywhere. So that's just one example, but the toxins and heavy metals are everywhere now, and you just you can't avoid them. Um so that's the second one. The the third one is um low reproductive battery. So um medical medium teaches us how the reproductive system has a soul of its own. And you know, this is this is actually a good thing. Women are putting well, potentially a good thing for a lot of women, but we're putting off having kids generally till later, which means we're going a longer span of time, not um actively like we're trying to avoid pregnancy for a longer span of time now. But that creates a disconnection between um our brain and the soul of our uterus. And that's not a bad thing, it's just that you have to be aware of it so that you can rebuild that connection when you are ready to have kids. So I think there's a lot of women out there where it's just like they just need to rebuild that connection, and that's all that's missing. And that's especially there's so many unexplained invertility cases where it's like everything looks normal, but like you're just not getting pregnant. It's look at that connection. There's he talks about the meditations that you can do, um, where you uh um imagine plugging in your reproductive battery at night. Just imagine like a cord of light going there. I did those, I did that every night. Um so yeah, look into those. Um and um, and then the the the last one is the the weakened adrenal connection that we we talked about, and that's just the high adrenaline lifestyle that we're all on, even unknowingly. And that's contributing to the hormone imbalances and all this. And and often in my case, I had all four of those root causes. Um yeah, easily, yeah. Yeah, and they all feed into the next one, right? Like the toxins feed feed the pathogens, and then the pathogens can help weaken your adrenals and so on, and and this all creates low reproductive batteries. So um, yeah, I just I hope that helps women to to see the big picture of what's going on with infertility because it's so mysterious right now.
SPEAKER_00As are as are all of them, if you go to allopathic medicine or alternative medicine, they will just not know the root cause. And so it's always guessing. It's like you say, you're like you're always in the guinea pig loop of we'll try this and see. And that is so debilitating.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Oh, and often I go and I was so health, I thought I was so health conscious at the time, and they would I would bring even like what I eat and everything, they'd be like, Man, everything looks great. Okay, well, maybe we'll just like try you on a straggle list or something. Like like that one little pill is gonna help me solve all my problems. And I and I I'd be so hopeless, like, okay, maybe that's all on this thing.
SPEAKER_00Awesome. Okay. Thank you so much for sharing all your information. Um I'm guessing that you work one-to-one with women now. So if anyone's listening to this struggling, they can come to you and you can help them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I actually I actually don't work one-on-one yet. Um, I uh but I I will be in the future. I've I'm building uh in a month, I'll have my uh complete fertility healing system e-bundle come out where just describe exactly step by step how you can heal infertility and reproductive conditions using medical medium information. So that'll be my first topic.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Okay, so people can't work with you one-to-one, but they can download some stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Okay. And and you can check me out on um, I'm I'm on Instagram, uh, TikTok, and YouTube at steamhandle at get fertile.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Awesome. And I will link to all those medical medium books as well, particularly Cleanse to Heal.
SPEAKER_01Which one would you read first if you were gonna um I would do Cleanse to Heal is is a great first one. And then um Life Changing Foods is a really good one for infertility because it has a whole chapter on it in the back. Plus, that book's just the the new edition. Have you have you uh gotten it yet?
SPEAKER_00No, I'm in Thailand. So I I literally just replay I like a month before it came out, I thought, oh, I need to get that book again. So I got the old one. Oh, yes. Now I need to get it sent over from England, the new one again. But yeah, I'll get it.
SPEAKER_01You gotta get it. It's so good. So many extra protocols and extra recipes, and he's added a whole bunch more foods and he's expanded the the fertility chapter, and it's it's really well done.
SPEAKER_00Oh, brilliant. We'll have to get that. I've just we just got Wild Blueberry juice in Thailand. Oh just able to do that HMDS game, which is great. Oh, fab. Well, thank you so much. I'll put the link to your um Instagram and your website where you can download some cleanse guides as well.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there's a link on my Instagram to my stands door.
SPEAKER_00Okay, all right, brilliant.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. Anything you want to tell women else before we um maybe just a lot a couple last just actionable tips um just just to get women started, if they've never heard of this information, just simple things. I was thinking, um first, like if you're just starting out, start with the lemon water first thing. Um that's just huge for flushing your liver and getting going. And then the the other one I always tell women is try and make your diet 50% raw fruit if you can. Think of it differently. It's not just the side garnish anymore, it's not just the little dessert, it's like it's like it's your mainstay. It's the thing that really heals the reproductive system. So I'll just I'll just leave you those two takeaway points because I think they're simple and easy to just implement right away.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay. And that you're right, there is a lot of fruit fear around and fear that we're wait on, and then that's with steamed potatoes as well. It's not the potatoes. So yeah, eat fruit to make fruit is is the oldest.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00I love it. Yeah. Yeah. It works, it works. It does. All right then. So everyone listening, I hope that was really useful for you. I know we're all we've got a huge attachment to what we eat and our diet, and there's lots of opinions around, but I really, I'm really glad you came on, Michelle, and we can talk about this because this is just what works. Someone has healed and they and she's got pregnant. That's all we need to know. I think really. Um it does work. I've tested it myself as well. And it's the only thing that really feels like it genuinely works and is sustainable. Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you. And I wish you a great day, Michelle. Thanks.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.