Unlocking the Mysteries of Past Life Regression with Tracey Harley

Unlock the mysteries of your past with our special guest, Tracey Harley from the Regression Academy, as we traverse the intriguing realm of past life regression therapy. What if your current life challenges stem from injuries or conditions in a life long forgotten? Together, we unravel misconceptions about trance states, revealing them as simply heightened states of awareness akin to deep meditation, where the gamma brainwave state opens pathways for profound insights. We share our own experiences with sensory phenomena during regression, demonstrating how visions, sounds, and even smells from past lives can surface, offering a key to healing and self-discovery.

Immerse yourself in the powerful synergy of sensory experiences and memory as we explore the world of fragrances and symbols in regression therapy. Discover how essential oils can act as bridges to past lives, triggering emotional responses and unlocking deep-seated memories. We discuss the soothing properties of crystals like selenite and rose quartz, highlighting their role in promoting relaxation and healing. The conversation illuminates the resonance of sacred symbols and their energetic frequencies, which hold the potential to communicate valuable insights and guidance from past life characters, impacting present-day choices and relationships.

Journey with us into the realms of psychic phenomena and spirit communication, where conventional understanding meets the unexplained. From the art of reading tea leaves to the mysterious appearance of apports, we share our personal stories from psychic circles, tapping into intuition and energy that challenge the skeptics. Contemplate the idea that water may hold energy or consciousness, and consider the allure of ordinary past lives versus the potential connection to famous figures. We invite you to appreciate the profound impact these past life revelations can have on your current journey, encouraging healing and a deeper appreciation of the seemingly mundane.

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My new novel The Red Magus has recently been published in conjunction with the Unbound Press.  An entralling mystical adventure set across time and space, where past and current lives converge.  Find it on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.

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Chapters

• 2:30 Exploring Past Life Regression Therapy
• 14:01 The Power of Smells and Symbols
• 24:39 Exploring Psychic Phenomena and Spirit Communication
• 35:16 Uncovering Past Life Experiences

Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:30

So, hi, everybody, welcome to another episode of Barn to the Soul. And as today is officially the launch day of the Red Mages, which is very exciting, we're doing a series of podcasts every day about themes in the book and we're having amazing fast guests. And today I am joined by Tracey Harley of the Regression Academy. So welcome, tracey. Thank you for joining me.

Speaker 2: 3:00

Thank you for inviting me. I'm very excited about the book.

Speaker 1: 3:04

Yeah, it's very exciting and I was told this morning that we are number two in the hot new releases, hooray. And of course, tracy wrote the foreword for me, because Tracy and I have known each other for 20 odd years. Um, we actually, before we trained, we sat in circle for a few years together, didn't we? And then we did train together in the past life regression therapy. So Tracy, very kindly, wrote the foreword for me. So your name is up there as well in lights.

Speaker 2: 3:41

It was an honest be asked and a real pleasure to do it, so thank you for asking me.

Speaker 1: 3:46

No, thank you very much for the words you wrote. That was amazing. So I thought today we'd just talk about some of the themes that I have used in the book.

Speaker 1: 3:57

Yeah, um, because obviously the main theme is past life regression and the main character, cassie, goes for lots of past life regression sessions. So, um, there are aspects that I've used and I thought we could um talk that. First of all and I'm sure I've said this before, but the word trance it really bothers me, this Trace, because you say to somebody, I'm going to put you into trance and 99% of people think that means they won't remember, they don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2: 4:30

You know, know they're very vulnerable if they're in trance and it doesn't really mean that, does it no, or I mean, you're quite right, and a lot of people think it means that they're sort of handing over control completely to the therapist, and it couldn't be further from the truth, really. And all trance is is an altered state of consciousness going into a particular brainwave state which we as humans do completely naturally many times a day often. So you know, you're right, I now tend to just use an altered state of consciousness.

Speaker 1: 5:09

Yeah, I tend to just say deep relaxation.

Speaker 2: 5:13

Yeah, consciousness, yeah, similar to I tend to just say deep relaxation, similar to if you're meditating. Really it's just sort of like a notch deeper than a deep meditation. So yeah, so yeah. I agree with you that that phrasing can kind of confuse people yeah, I have used.

Speaker 1: 5:27

I mean, we always say going to trance, don't we? I have used that vocab. But I'm glad you brought um brainwave states up, because I don't know if you remember, but you and I went off and had our brainwave states measured, didn't we? For? Yes for a guy called Marcus who was doing his dissertation and it was so fascinating and what I remember from that one, we had this horrible glue in our hair very attractive plastic and we were wired up to a computer but we could see our brainwaves states on the screen, which is amazing in itself.

Speaker 1: 6:07

But what? What I remember from that is that, you know, your brainwave state slows, slows, slows, and then it gets to a point and it speeds up suddenly. I think it's gamma brainwave state, and then from that state you gather lots and lots of information, don't you? That we're talking to, if we talking about, if we get to a point where we suddenly the brainwave state speeds up again, we are able to collect all of this information.

Speaker 2: 6:40

yeah, no things you know, and I think that's probably at the point that the conscious mind kind of drifts away, that deepening the conscious mind that's doing that constant goes and the subconscious really kicks in. Then and this is where all of those memories are, all of this information is stored. All of our running programs from current life and past life, from future life, from any timeline is there in our subconscious. So I think that's then probably when we suddenly get this overload of information coming yeah, and we get it in all sorts of ways, don't we?

Speaker 1: 7:20

we get it. We do get images, although that's not always common or we just know. But we can also hear, can't we?

Speaker 2: 7:29

and yeah, we can smell when we're in that state, yeah and feel very much often our bodies, on our bodies, we can feel, whether it's hot or cold, or even the fabric of clothes we're wearing. Often, yeah, you can feel or it, yeah, it's a really interesting, um, it's a really unusual place to be, really, because we're using all of our senses, but in a slightly different way to when we're consciously awake.

Speaker 2: 7:55

So but yeah, it's surprising the the way the information can come to us yeah, and we can also if we're injured in that life.

Speaker 1: 8:04

We can feel that, can't we. We can feel there's something not quite right with my leg, or you know I I feel like there's not something quite right with my eyes in this body. You know, we just sort of it's. It's. It's hard to explain, isn't it, but it is it's yeah, it's a funny.

Speaker 2: 8:22

It is you, you what you become. You know if you've gone back into a past life, it is you really embody into that character, so you feel in the way they felt. You experience things. And the interesting thing, it's interesting you say about you know if the body's been injured in any way. Sometimes these injuries can correlate to, um, stuff that someone's experiencing in the here and now. You know they might have an unexplained pain, or you know something wrong with their eye, or you know, and it's amazing how many times that something from a past life correlates to something that's affecting them physically, um, and by clearing that, it clears it here and now.

Speaker 1: 9:05

It's fascinating and I'm glad you brought that up, because in the book Cassie husband, who is called Joel, has a scar running down his arm and he discovers that that is from a past life injury so that is also very, very well documented, isn't it that scars and birthmarks can represent, like sort of the point where you were speared, or you were knifed, or you whatever happened to you in a past life. But it can represent that, can't it?

Speaker 2: 9:39

yeah, that's quite common and they you know there's a? Um. A guy called ian stevenson did lots of work with children who have past life memories and a lot of them, you know, they remember their deaths and they would have birth marks or deformities. Um that absolutely matched up with what had happened to them. So, yeah, so that is a, you know, that is a real corroborated um, you know, uh, how, how it presents yeah, excellent.

Speaker 1: 10:11

The other thing I talk about as well, my main character, because she goes for so many sessions. But actually it's almost like a muscle being exercised, isn't it? Because I remember doing this with you, because I would come to you for a session if I needed a session, and it became such a habit that the minute I sort of knew I was going, I could feel myself slipping into trance. Or when I got there and you said lie, lie on the couch, I was there. It was almost like you didn't need an induction. So that is something that happens with people as well, isn't it? You know they might struggle the first few times, but if they stick to it, yeah it, actually it becomes easier, and it is.

Speaker 2: 10:54

It's almost like you're building a new you're, you're, ex, as you say, exercising that muscle, one you haven't used before. The more you do it, the easier it becomes. I think it's. You know you're building new neural pathways in your brain. Um, yeah, and it is. You know, like I'm the same as you. You know I've only got to think, oh, I'm gonna have a past life, I'll lay down and I'm it. You know, like I'm the same as you. You know I've only got to think, oh, I'm gonna have a past life, I lay down and I'm there. You know I don't need and and yeah, the the more people do it, the easier it is and the more they can access. It's almost like it opens a floodgate that's been waiting just to be accessed, that information yeah, and it also opens everything in a way, doesn't?

Speaker 1: 11:33

it opens that energy up to all sorts of information. It triggers interests in other things, or all things spiritual, or if they've seen something in a past life.

Speaker 2: 11:43

You know, it's it's sort of it's hard to explain again, but it's like, it's almost like it expands somebody's awareness yeah, yeah, and I think it's almost like this all of this information and understanding and skills often that they had was all there. It's almost like it's been locked in a cupboard and they'd forgotten how to open it. And once you've got that key, you know everything, you can open it and it can all burst out. You can rummage around and find the thing you're particularly looking for and and yeah, and I think once people have done this, it really does expand their awareness of of the current world and how they are in it and very much the whole spiritual and you know, lots of alternative types of um healings and modalities seem to, you know, really, uh, be opened up to people yeah, and the fact that we can see skills in past lives.

Speaker 1: 12:45

I mean, I've accentuated this in the book, but, um, we're actually that's available to us in this lifetime. We know that already, don't we?

Speaker 2: 12:54

so if somebody then thought I'm gonna do that again, it would probably be easier for them in a way yeah, I exactly, and I think it's really interesting because I think when you have, you know people who are like child prodigies, I'm sure they're linking into past lives. And you know my people who are like child prodigies, I'm sure they're linking into past lives. And you know, my daughter from the age of two kept telling me she could ride horses. And I was like no, you've got to learn. She had her first riding lesson at five and she could ride. She didn't know how to do it and it was like well, why didn't I trust her? Obviously, so yeah, yeah, obviously. So yeah, and I'm sure that, and but there's nothing stopping people. It's almost like we've forgotten how to access it.

Speaker 2: 13:40

Children almost don't have to do it without they don't question. Yeah, yeah we've sort of societies conditioned us not to, but yeah, so that we can go in and find particular skills and reactivate them. It's almost like they're just there laying dormant for a little while yeah, yeah, excellent.

Speaker 1: 14:01

And the other thing I use with Cassie is that, um, certain smells, like essential oils, start to trigger her to go straight straight to where she needs to go, and, um, that's also common, isn't it? That's, it's just like a smell can trigger a memory. Yeah, but it's the same thing.

Speaker 2: 14:22

But we're just going back a bit further yeah and no, and that you know it's always very fascinating when people, particular smells, start to take people back. You know we've all had it happen to us in this life. You know a smell or reminders of someone or something or somewhere, but then when you're using it, that and it's very, very powerful. It's, it's almost like you know you don't even need any sort of um induction or trance to get there. It's, it's like a bridge back, almost that link um and I think probably is. You know things like essential oils probably. You know if oils and things would have been herds would have been used a lot more in the past. You know they're going to be very prevalent, aren't they?

Speaker 1: 15:10

yeah yeah and I have that with frankincense.

Speaker 2: 15:14

I don't.

Speaker 1: 15:14

I've not found where it takes me, if you like, but I know it does take me into an inner state, almost in. You know, whatever I'm doing. Yes, it's like a recognition. I just love that smell so much, yeah, so that's, that's also interesting. And the other thing I used um was crystals, of course, being a crystal lover, yeah, but crystals can also help you, can't they? You know, um, they can help you, I suppose, to relax. They can help you to um, to get into that trance like state again. They're all sort of aids to help you, yeah because they all have their own energy vibration.

Speaker 2: 16:00

So, dependent on what you know, the client I know, selenite, is a really good uh conduit for accessing past lives yeah I often have a cellar night around when I'm doing sessions and then you know, rose quartz is really powerful for that.

Speaker 2: 16:19

You know that love um connection, which people often need. So, yeah, I mean crystals are amazing for, uh, their energy helping in in, whether it's in getting people somewhere or in part of their healing. Yeah, I think you know crystals would have been used a lot more in the past so people would have a lot more resonance with them.

Speaker 1: 16:43

Yeah, they were a lot more in tune, weren't they with the yeah and I use I'll tell you what I use um, petrified wood. All right, for some reason I always find that really like a really good bridge to take you somewhere else. So, yeah, you can. And the other thing that I throw in there is symbols, and you know how symbols vibrate and they are the key to all sorts of energy frequencies. So you can use those on your hands, you can use draw them and use them under the couch.

Speaker 1: 17:18

You can and experiment with them, I suppose and just see what works with you when you meditate when you're doing one work.

Speaker 2: 17:27

But often people get given symbols and they might see particular symbols during their regression that are relevant to them, that they suddenly realise there's something about that symbol, or a gift of you, know they're working with crystals or whatever. And suddenly they realise that that, you know, has a real relevance for them in the here and now.

Speaker 1: 18:47

So yeah, I remember seeing um. I remember having a session with you and um seeing a symbol. I don't know if you remember that, but it was so clear. Yeah, I've written it down, um, and that really sort of triggered, I think, my fascination with symbols, and you know the use of them. I think a lot of people think, well, they're just flat 2d shapes, but actually there's a lot more to them.

Speaker 2: 19:16

Yeah, yeah, and I think you know if you're um interested in sacred geometry and things you know, that there's so much in there with with these symbols and shapes and geometry and the energy that they carry. So yeah, it's all about the energy yeah, yeah, and you know, we know, don't we? You know, you know, a cross has a certain energy, and the um, is it like those celtic? The triquetta is it the? Yes yes, carries a particular energy.

Speaker 1: 19:49

So all of these symbols, yeah, are very powerful to you, very fascinating, yeah, and the other thing that, um, I use in the story.

Speaker 1: 19:59

so cassie meets um this character in one of her sessions the Mages, hence the name of the book and this character is like a priestess really you know somebody who would be there at the birth, you know, and then also, like a soul midwife, see them off, very much involved in burials and making sure that the souls went the way that they should go. But the part of the story is that she's trying to warn Cassie. She's sending her a warning from across time and space. Yes and um. I don't know where this has come from, tracy, but I I wondered if you'd ever experienced that. You know, maybe a past life I mean a past life character will give the client information, perhaps. But but have you ever experienced it when they've said, if you carry on doing that, that's not going to work? Or or maybe that's a realization for the client afterwards?

Speaker 2: 21:04

yeah, I think it's often. Sometimes, I mean, what I've encountered with clients is that the character from the past life they recognize it's someone in their current life and they recognize the pattern from the past life. They're replaying and they can suddenly see, and sometimes the guides will give them, you know, if we, the guide, have you got any words of wisdom and they'll say, well, if you carry on like that, you know, but you know so often the characters. It's often that they see a resonance with what's going on and they're like, oh, this is not a good person for me, I need to keep away from them. I can feel the energies. You know. We're doing the same this time as we did before so yeah so it is.

Speaker 2: 21:53

You know their past selves, their past lives, giving them a warning, in a way yeah, and that is exactly what happens.

Speaker 1: 22:01

She, she, she sees the past life with her now husband so and she can see the. You know they are repeating patterns and she wants to stop that, you know. And energy healing and energy management and past life regression is an amazing way to stop repeating the same old stuff over and over again, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 22:22

and it's almost as soon as someone recognizes it. It can help break the pattern yeah, as soon as they see what they're doing it can. Then, yes, there might be some healing to do, you know from previously, but it then right, I'm not doing that anymore. That's I'm clearing that. So it's fantastic for that. It's really, really empowering for people.

Speaker 1: 22:46

Yeah and I've tried to make the description of the sessions as realistic as possible. So I hope that those who trained with me can see that. But when people read it, that is realistically how a session pans out, and I've exaggerated it in places, but that's for the drama of it.

Speaker 2: 23:08

I've exaggerated it in places, but that's for the drama of it. But you know it's interesting because some sessions will be quite calm and not much happening and others will be like stuff going on all over the place and you end a session and you're like, oh my God, what the hell?

Speaker 1: 23:25

went on there. I know that's part of the fun of it.

Speaker 2: 23:26

Really. You never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1: 23:29

No, you don't, absolutely you don't. And in the book I talk about Cassie, she sees a queue of characters and sort of going back and she begins to realise that they are her past life characters and that is something that I have seen, that came to me. All these sort of and what's the connection and why am I being shown that and that sort of you? Know so you can get imagery of stuff that perhaps isn't to do with what you're dealing with at that point, but then it takes your it it starts you thinking, doesn't it?

Speaker 2: 24:03

it starts you getting those connections yeah, and I think often that, because I've experienced that, and I think often that, because I've experienced that, and I think, quite a number of people, the more you do it, it's almost like you know you've got a file of all of these lives that need something doing and it's almost like you run your finger down and go that's the one for today. I'll pick that one, but I know that one's there waiting. Oh, and I've got one over there. Okay, right, you know it's like they're queuing up, aren't they?

Speaker 1: 24:29

yeah, absolutely yeah. So I use that as well, because that was an experience that I could really relate to, basically. And then, as if that wasn't all enough, um, I threw in a few um sort of um, psychic phenomena, basically. So you and I sat in circle many years ago. We experienced some psychic phenomena, didn't we? Um, and I know people poo poo it, but I think you have to experience it to really. I mean, I'm quite cynical about things, but if you've actually experienced things, yeah, you realize that. Okay, maybe we can't explain I don't know what's happening, but maybe we can't explain everything.

Speaker 2: 25:18

So I threw in reading the tea leaves yes, we can remember we did have a go at.

Speaker 1: 25:25

She did have a go at A neighbour. Martha reads the tea leaves and has always read the tea leaves, and people poo-poo that as well. But it is actually. You know, you take it lightheartedly, but it is a way of using your intuition to get information about the person in front of you and by tapping into their energy, whether you realize you're doing that at all or not.

Speaker 2: 25:54

But you know, like the cards, the rooms, tea leaves, it's all a way of divination so that it is, yeah, and you know, tapping into someone's energy, because their energy will be if they've handled them. Their energy is there that, if it acts as that connection point. Jewelry you know there's a lot of people do reading of jewelry and things. Yeah, um, and again it is, and you can't explain how, how they can know that information and it is. It has to be that they're just picking up energetically, they're connecting in. You know, we can accept it's strange, isn't it? We can accept that we can send a text message and it goes through the ether. We can't see it going through the ether. It is a radio, you know, we accept all of these things as real. You know television picture can appear on our screen. Yeah, things as real. You know, a television picture can appear on our screen. Yeah, but it's almost like well, we can't accept that someone's thoughts or feelings can be in the airwaves. Well, you know, they're as as real as as anything else, aren't they?

Speaker 1: 26:58

yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2: 26:59

If we can plug into them, why, why wouldn't we? Be, able to then read all the information yeah yeah, and I remember we tried.

Speaker 1: 27:09

We did it um a few times with a bowl of water. Do you remember that? Yeah, and that was fascinating because I I was thinking we're not going to be able to do this. I'm not sure, but actually you did get information.

Speaker 2: 27:23

It was quite extraordinary it was yeah, but, and I think I think water's a very um, it's a great conduit, isn't it for energy? Yes, it would be interesting, wouldn't it, how the end, how the water would feel different after different people have had their hands in it.

Speaker 1: 27:42

Yeah, really, really strange yeah, so just explain, there'd be a group of us and one of us would go out of the room who was going to read the water, and then somebody else in the group would go and just put their hands in this bowl of water, just just stand there for a few minutes, then they'd sit down. The person would come back into the room, not knowing who it was, put their hands in the water and then do a reading. Yeah, so they were tapping into that energy. And I love the fact that you said water is a conduit, because of course, I added water being a conduit. It's like you're reading my mind. Well, there you go.

Speaker 2: 28:20

It's like we've known each other a long while.

Speaker 1: 28:23

We're connecting in now but yes, I use water in there as being how spirit connects from, I suppose, heaven or spirit or whatever you want to call it to earth, and so we can tap in and it it sends messages. It's a conduit, yeah, um, and actually you know, thinking back to that exercise, I think that's very true. It holds energy yeah, it has a memory yeah yeah yeah, yeah, and perhaps even a consciousness, if we, if we want to expand it even more no reason.

Speaker 2: 29:02

Why not? You know, especially if you think of you know there's been so many experiments with water and how it's affected by work, even just the words people say.

Speaker 1: 29:12

You know, affect the sound and how it can sort of almost communicate with people yeah, fascinating. And then the other thing.

Speaker 2: 29:21

I threw in there not that I ever experienced it.

Speaker 1: 29:24

I don't think you I don't know if you experienced it, but was an appalled. You know when an object appears, um, out of nowhere, basically from spirit, a gift from spirit. So the character in the past life hands Cassie something in that session, yeah, and then when she comes to, she's holding it in her hand. Wow, yeah, so, but that is actually being documented as a phenomena, hasn't it?

Speaker 2: 29:58

yeah, and I think people, many people will have experienced it. You know people, many people, who even perhaps aren't particularly spiritual.

Speaker 2: 30:07

You, know, they'll suddenly see a feather and go, oh, that was my mom or my dad, someone who's passed away, or they send me feathers, or they send me pennies or you know, and people who aren't even vaguely spiritual can accept that, and that's really what an important is, isn't it? They're, yeah, you know, bringing something, and that's really quite common. I quite often find coins, um yeah from, and not so much feathers sometimes, but not very often. It's when they come, when there's, you know, you're in a room and there's not a bird around or a feather cushion, and you're suddenly, well, that's a bit strange, but yeah so that, yeah, that's an important I mean, I haven't had a client.

Speaker 2: 30:47

That would be amazing, wouldn't it? There's no reason why, it doesn't happen.

Speaker 1: 30:54

Anything really is possible well, there is lots of documentation, I think it's is it called um. It's different from, it's a different type of circle when people and it, they sort of, so they get movement, they get spirit materializing and there's a different word for it, and I can't think.

Speaker 2: 31:14

But there's quite a lot. Well, there's physical mediumship. Is that it?

Speaker 1: 31:18

Yes, I think it's physical mediumship and I think it's less common now, to be fair, but in the sort of 30s 40s, 50s, it was very well documented about how spirit would materialise or figures would appear, or reports, objects would suddenly appear. Okay, and that always fascinated me, so threw that in and the thing is.

Speaker 2: 31:47

The thing is, with a book such as the red makers, it's like opening people's awareness to what's out there and one person will read it and get something really important from it. Someone else will pick something else up. And if it then takes them down that path which opens them up and then which these things do, don't they? Yes, suddenly it kind of like a little light goes on and we're like, oh, that's interesting, I'm going to look into that.

Speaker 2: 32:14

So it's yeah amazing for really just opening up people's awareness and and um exploration of yeah, it's like sort of somebody was saying it's like a ripple.

Speaker 1: 32:27

You know, it ripples your beliefs out into the universe, doesn't it? And and it's almost like teaching by way of story, which is such an ancient process, isn't it? But I just felt like rather than nobody wants to hear me banging on about stuff that I believe, but in a story, if they've got a story that they can enjoy and perhaps lose, you know it is real sort of.

Speaker 2: 32:53

There's a element of fantasy and magic in there, so, and people can lose themselves in a story like that but I think also, people want to believe that it's real as well, and especially if they know it's been written by someone who has trained and he's experienced in working with all of these things that you've put into the book.

Speaker 1: 33:17

It's like well actually it.

Speaker 2: 33:19

Then you know they're like well, actually this is someone who really knows about it. So, yeah, even if not all of it is true, there's got to be elements that are actually true and yeah and so yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 1: 33:35

Yeah, people like that yeah, well, thank you, tracy, for coming on and sharing that. Um, it's like you knew what I was going to say next, but it's lovely to get um, I just wanted a somebody who would sort of affirm the themes, if you like. That I have used, but they are common things that happen they've been taken and exaggerated a little bit and the drama of it but it's not exaggerated enough.

Speaker 2: 34:06

Who knows? No, maybe not, but that's what all stories aren't? They are usually based in fact, and yeah, and it encourages people to go off and have their own adventures in, you know, past healings and other.

Speaker 1: 34:20

That's exactly what I would love people to do. Just go off on their own tangents. You know we've all got different paths, but even if people think you know what, I'd just love to see who I was and I'll go and you and when you start having regular sessions, everyone is different, isn't it? And you could be male or female. You can be anything. You know I've been a nun and a soldier and a I don't know fighter pilot.

Speaker 2: 34:49

Yeah, you know, it's fascinating. She's saying why did you, you know, why have I chosen so many diverse and so many different things? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's almost like you're, you're, you're accessing history in a different way because you see it from the actual, from being there, as opposed to just reading about it in a book.

Speaker 2: 35:16

Yeah, and and you know, I think, if everyone wants to think they were someone, one you know, a princess or a prince, or had a wonderful life, but it is those normal everyday lives that actually, you know, everyone experiences. You know, I, I had a thing about my throat and I, I desperately wanted to be Anne Boleyn and, you know, or someone who'd had my head cut off, you know. But you know I'd been a backstreet prostitute in London and was strong in the Thames, so not very, um, not very glamorous, but actually, wow, that was the reality of life and I wanted to experience that, yeah, unpleasant glory yeah, but you know, and also there's lots and lots of what we call porridge lives on there where nothing happened.

Speaker 1: 36:06

We just survived, yeah, we just got on with it and lived our life wherever we were and nothing amazing happened. We were just who we were and we were content a lot of the time as well, yeah, I think.

Speaker 2: 36:19

But there is a really good lesson in that, isn't there? You can just be content in a very ordinary life, yeah, in your life, surviving with your family. It doesn't have to be all fireworks no, absolutely not so tell me have you ever experienced a famous person?

Speaker 1: 36:37

because we're taught, you never experience a famous person um, I have, I've had a few.

Speaker 2: 36:43

How have?

Speaker 1: 36:43

you, yeah, I love that you say that because I've had one and you know, I remember in my head our teachers going no, you'll never get no you're never and I'm thinking, okay, maybe I've got that wrong, but I knew I hadn't.

Speaker 2: 36:57

It's nice to see that you have also experienced that I have and whether and that's what you know it's down to the person, the client who's having the session, to decide whether that's a reality or not, whether they really were that person, whether they've just tapped into the collective consciousness of that person, whether, whatever message that energy brings that they needed, perhaps they've connected into that collective consciousness yeah but all I know is that there was such profound experiences for the client, um, yeah, and, and they, which you know, they felt all of the emotions so strongly, you know, they couldn't be making up and it all of the detail was so, so right.

Speaker 2: 37:49

It was like, well, you know, um, and they didn't particularly know a lot about the person no, well, I didn't, I had to Google some of what she was telling me and it was all absolutely spot on, yeah.

Speaker 1: 38:02

So yeah, that's interesting because also lots of people regress to the same person. So when you talk about the collective energy, it might well be like you say they're tapping into that. About the collective energy, it might well be like you say they're tapping into that and maybe that's what famous people are about they're.

Speaker 2: 38:19

They are a particular vibration that perhaps future people need yeah and if you think you know people who we think of as famous were were big characters, weren't they you? Know, someone small and shy and hiding in a corner. Every you know. Their energy was big. It was about, you know, making big shifts in their world at that time so the energy within the collective consciousness is still going to have that um energy about it, that their soul is still carrying that energy, which, if, then, it's important for other people to access, that that's yeah me there, so yeah, and also, um, you know, I think a lot of people say, oh well, you know you've watched a film or you've read a book or all of that.

Speaker 1: 39:08

But you know, I suppose that's a moot point, but the emotions is what gives it away, what you were talking about. Yeah, and even if it is a story that our subconscious is giving us, it does create healing exactly, yeah, and that is, that's the most important thing you know, whether it's real or not in a way doesn't matter.

Speaker 2: 39:33

No, that healing happens from it, that the client feels better and gets you know the resolution or whatever they need from it. So that's a really important thing it does. You were saying about you know people saying I've read a book or seen a film, and it's often people are drawn to a particular era, perhaps in in history and a particular you know, like the wars. Often people are really drawn to the wars and then they find they were in, for example, world War One, and they say, oh well, yeah, but that's because I've read a lot about it. But I always think, well, yes, but that you were drawn to it because you had that soul memory of that time. You were drawn back to it because you knew there was something there, unfinished and there was unfinished business.

Speaker 2: 40:21

So I think it works both ways. I think we're often drawn to places, people, particular historical events, because we have a soul memory of it somewhere.

Speaker 1: 40:34

Yeah, amazing, oh it somewhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, amazing. Oh, thank you, tracy. Well, this episode will go up today as part of our episodes you know, continuous episodes to mark the Red Mages.

Speaker 2: 40:49

Exciting.

Speaker 1: 40:50

My hot new release.

Speaker 2: 40:51

Yes, I look forward to hearing all the other episodes yeah, yeah, definitely okay, thank you very much.

Speaker 1: 41:00

And, um, if you've enjoyed listening to me and Tracy, check back on our previous episodes because we've been, we've done a few, all about past life, regression and all different themes, so check back on those. They're really interesting. Please like and share and, um, I will speak to you again soon.