Finding Balance in Chaos: The Tao of Life with Sifu Boggie

Dive into a captivating journey of balance and awakening with Sifu Boggie as he unpacks the profound teachings of Daoism. With over 40 years of experience in the martial arts and healing realms, Sifu Boggie offers a unique perspective on how ancient wisdom intertwines with modern life. Discover the meaning of his title, Sifu, and understand the significance of martial, medical, and meditational practices in your journey toward well-being.

Sifu Boggie candidly shares his personal story, detailing how he was introduced to the world of energy healing at a young age. He explores the myths surrounding energy work and reveals how science is catching up with ancient practices to validate their health benefits. Throughout the episode, you’ll learn how to harness the power of qigong, the importance of movement for emotional and physical health, and strategies to incorporate these techniques into your daily routine.

The conversation is not just about martial arts or healing; it’s a call to embrace our collective fears and misconceptions, paving the way for a more harmonious existence. Join us to uncover ways to infuse your life with balance, creativity, and purpose. Subscribe, share, and join the conversation as we navigate the path toward holistic living together!

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Sifu Bagi
• 8:13 Understanding the Significance of Titles in Martial Arts
• 17:58 The Three Aspects of Martial Arts: Fighting, Healing, and Consciousness
• 33:39 The Journey into Taoist Arts: A Personal Story
• 48:24 Exploring the Science Behind Energy Healing
• 59:14 Daily Practices: How to Start with Qigong

Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:30

so welcome everybody to another edition of barn to the soul, and today we've got a new guest, so um, and his name is I'm going to pronounce this wrong but his name is sifu bagi and um. So thank you for coming on, barn to the soul, thank you for supporting the podcast thank you, welcome all of us so let's just start with that name, because we were talking about it before. Sifu Barghi is a title, really, isn't it? So what does it mean?

Speaker 2: 3:04

Right. So my answer name is. My name is Paul Brighton and I've done the Daoist arts for 40 years, 43 years this year. And so in the West we sort of see, we think of martial arts, we think of it all the same thing, but they call it the arts because you have a fighting side, or fitness side, you have a healing side and then you have a consciousness side or spiritual side, what they call the three ends, so martial, medical and meditational. Now when you go into that, a little bit like in ancient cultures, they give you a name yes and and so I was given a name and it's actually two there's.

Speaker 2: 3:55

There's actually tidesaw bargy. So, uh, tidesaw means. Tidesaw means supreme royal chaos or basically big trouble, because my teeth is sort of figured out. I'm a little bit of an instigator. I'm a little bit of when I was younger. I'm very clumsy, but clumsy in a way that, oh, that led to that, you know, like I trip over something and try the pot of gold you know, that's all that's all so.

Speaker 2: 4:30

So they call that in the East. So my teachers were from China and Japan, but they also used a mixture of Korean words as well, because their families, they used words have power, those different words have different powers. So Taiso means there's a word similar to Tai Chi. Well, tai Chi means oh, that Tai Chi symbol is slightly hidden. But the Yang symbol, when he talks about Tai Chi, means supreme, ultimate. So Taiso is supreme, lower chaos. So it's this idea of this big trouble causes issues, but ultimately it's waking things up. Barghini. Barghini goes on to that which is the balancer between the chaos and the calmness.

Speaker 2: 5:26

So from so, so my, my sort of role and what I was good at doing was because my teachers, like it, led my learning, the arts led me into close protection. I did close protection for them through the FT 500 and 100 in business and also for diplomatic services, right, but close protection was never just, it's never just anything in the arts, in the Taoist arts. So close protection led to doing healing, doing teaching, martial art moves or martial art applications. So the whole idea was that I, I could, and also led to event work where I was a, an emergency event coordinator. Um, what they would do. They would just throw me in the thick of it and go right, fix it, fix the problem. So I'd look around like like, sort out the different things, sort it out. And that's how my brain works. I can see 30 things at once and work it into a nice little order, a nice little package.

Speaker 2: 6:37

And as a Sifu, I'm notoriously known as throwing 50 things at you and seeing what sticks. You know saying like, try this, try this, try this, and you go, oh, I like that, but I don't like that. I like that, but I don't like that, I like this, I don't like this. And like, as one of my many jobs, I used to be a pastry chef, but I was a chef, so it's the same sort of thing of like taking a load of ingredients and going, yeah, that works, that doesn't, that works, that works. And making a beautiful meal.

Speaker 2: 7:09

And so Bargee basically meant that. It meant somebody who has the idea I can bring lots of things together and and and bring it down to one thing or bring it down to a few things. My teachers always said we, we made you learn a thousand qigongs so you can teach other people free, or a thousand techniques so you can teach people free, so I can see somebody or listen to somebody and listen to their needs and then go ah, this exercise will help you. This exercise will help you, and so that was my role. That's what that name means somebody who can bring everything together. So the the teachers.

Speaker 1: 7:52

That's what that name means somebody who can bring everything together so the the teachers that gave you that name must have known you incredibly well, to sort of you know it must be like it, it evolves over time, presumably that relationship, and then they go right, we're going to call you this because they've got to know you so well yeah, right.

Speaker 2: 8:13

So it goes on to like what? Like seafood. Now, if you google seafood, it gives you a not great translation. It will normally say either master or master of martial arts. But si and fu, uh. Fu means parent or father and sometimes mean father and sometimes parents. Si means guide or father, sometimes it means father, sometimes it means parents. Si means guide or point, and if you've been around quite a bit, you may have heard of Bruce Lee and Bruce Lee made a Taoist saying well, this is what I studied the Taoist arts, and made a Taoist saying very famous, and the Taoist saying is is it's like a finger pointing towards the moon do not watch the finger or you'll miss all that heavenly glory.

Speaker 2: 8:59

So a sifu is a finger and sifu is the guide. They're not there to master you, they're not there to tell you you must do this. A sifu is like a parent they will hopefully. A good parent wants you to be the best you can be and wants to guide you in the best way, not actually control and manipulate you. So my role as a sifu is to guide and to be amused and to bring the best out of you, and that's. I do that with all these different techniques, all the different, 40 years worth of information and knowledge I've learned is to be able to help everybody with one or two things or make it. I'm super complicated, but my goal is to make it simple, yeah right.

Speaker 1: 9:46

OK, so I was reading that you started your spiritual path incredibly young. You were 12 when you started. That's young.

Speaker 2: 9:58

How did you get involved in sort of the funny thing is, in modern society let's not say the West, let's say modern society, modern society, oh you know, we think that's really young. But in China, because of the way they do things, is different. They start learning this sort of stuff at five, six years old, like, if you like, a little bit different, but the same but different. It's like if you go to like Canada, because one of my other passions is ice skating, and if you were brought up in Canada or America, they'd throw you on the ice as soon as you could walk. So, like I started skating when I was 15, and, oh God, that was like, you know, if somebody said, oh, that's young, it's like, well, actually that's quite old and it's the same with this stuff is that in its original setting that's actually quite old to start at like 12 years old.

Speaker 2: 11:09

But what happened sort of for me's a little bit of the classic when I was young, I was interested in this stuff from a very young, like six, what we would now say. I woke up at the age of six. I remembered dreams which were actually past lives. I saw stuff and you know, experiencing things. But I learned very quickly that my mum was one of these people that if you was to stay oh, I'm seeing, oh, I get to see this, or I remember being this. Oh, there must be something wrong with you. We've got to take you to the doctor.

Speaker 2: 11:54

And I learned that very quickly.

Speaker 2: 11:57

I learned that very quickly that if I said certain things it'd probably get me in trouble or, you know, I didn't think it would be a good idea. So I grew up holding a lot of stuff back but seeing things in a different way and drawing. I was notoriously known for drawing lots of fantastical stories, you know, which to me weren't stories, they were memories. But this is what I was drawing, which led, funny enough, to me getting beaten up. You know, people thought it was a bit weird and thought it was strange, and from like probably nine onwards, I got beaten up. Quite know, people thought it was a bit weird and thought it was strange. And from like probably nine onwards, I got beaten up quite a bit and and um, so my dad took, uh, me to a martial martial art. He thought you need to learn to. He did boxing when he was a kid but, um, he said well, that I couldn't find a box or I wasn't interested in boxing. So he took me to a martial art. The martial art he took me to did meditation and I absolutely like, found this like meditation. It was like, ah, it's what I've been looking for and I went into this martial art, especially on the meditational side and after, after a year and a bit, you get up to a point. They do levels, belts, different rankings, and after a point they bring in adjudicators, which are people that will, outside authority, that will test your knowledge for the belt. Well, one of the adjudicators happened to be a taoist and a chali monk and a taoist and he sort of I didn't wouldn't know this for much until much later, but he did this adjudicating role because he was looking for people. He was looking for certain people that had that spark, that had that understanding, that had that light, and you know so. To my parents he said oh, I think your son's really talented. I'd really like to teach him. To me. At 12 years old he said we all have lived and died over and over again. I have been your sifu, your teacher, you have been my teacher and it's my turn to be yours again. Wow, now he said that to me, and to me that made perfect sense. It's like, yeah, yeah, you know where have you been, you know in 12 years where you been, but but you know, like you never said that to my dad because that you know what. What were you talking about? You know we're talking about, uh, 1982 in the uk, you know, we we were just about understanding martial arts, let alone meditation or reincarnation. So I started that journey. So yes, to a lot of people, I started that journey very young, but it was something that resonated with me very, very quickly and I studied it more.

Speaker 2: 15:11

By 18 I started teaching others and especially sort of like certain self-defense techniques. I would do like security For my seafood. I would be like security or bodyguards. I'd be teaching certain moves that I had mastered by then. And so very, very young I was teaching other people and then I very, very quickly went into close protection, which led me into the FT500, 100 in these businesses, which is interesting enough that in the millionaire and billionaire worlds this stuff is real, like what a lot of people say oh it's magic, oh that's woo-woo, there's no evidence. They seem to know totally different. I think it was Rockefeller that once said millionaires don't use astrology and don't believe in magic. Billionaires do, and they very much see things in a lot, lot different way, which I found very interesting.

Speaker 1: 16:27

It's fascinating, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 16:29

Like they've got a different perspective on on life and how things work well, when you yeah, well, when you're looking, yeah, when you go into the millionaire realm, businesses and realms, you suddenly realize like they use remote viewers, they use, uh, empaths, they, they use psychics. You know like you go, you look into police and military. They've been using for 50, 50 plus years, 60 plus years actually, a few psychics and remote viewers and it's like why, well, it works. They might not understand it, but it works, so therefore, why would you not use it? That's their logic, that's.

Speaker 2: 17:08

And business is exactly the same. You know, I, I knew business. People said I don't understand this, but does it make me money? Yes, will I use it? Yes, yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:20

And even for those who remember Uri Geller, uri Geller was actually known. I knew him a little bit and did a little. I looked after him for certain businesses, just to give him security sort of thing, and he would find gold, diamonds, oil, water in certain places, just using a pendulum, looking at a map. And again, these companies were paying £10,000, £20,000, £30,000 to him for doing this each time he did it. And that was in the 90s.

Speaker 2: 19:02

So you know, we've been I'm not sure it's led to believe, but we see things in one way in the press and media and society put things in one way, but other people see things in a totally different way and they're quite happy that we don't see it that way, because for them, oh, it's more frustrating. You know, and that's the interesting thing. It's like there's a lot of stuff out there that I mean, I've learnt it in the essence of like what in the East, in the ancient knowledge and Einstein said this and Nikola Tesla said this magic is science not yet understood. So they would see it. So there's a role I do. I was trained as a dragon dog, shaman, and I always say they say it's like a Taoist shaman. Taoist shamans are sort of like ancient physicists what quantum physics is now coming up with, and even epigenetics, which is the understanding. What you think and feel affects your physical health. What this modern science is talking about now they were talking about thousands of years ago.

Speaker 1: 20:20

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:22

Slightly different terminologies maybe, but they're talking about the same thing.

Speaker 1: 20:26

It's so fascinating that you're talking about that, because one of my questions was going to be. I find that a lot of clients like I've written a novel, a story, just a story, but the theme is past life regression, and one of the comments I get all the time is that people are slightly scared of the subject. You know people are like, well, I wouldn't actually read about that in it, but actually once I've read it, I enjoy it.

Speaker 1: 20:55

There seems to be like a slight block with some people that there's a fear around energy healing and I don't know. I don't know what you think about that, but I've noticed it's come up for me quite a lot.

Speaker 2: 21:07

People are actually a little scared right, right, okay, because there's lots of things in that. So this is an interesting, I think it's society has poohed certain concepts, certain ideas, and I mean it like this it's slightly different, but actually a lot similar than most people think. Up to five years ago. You, especially in newspapers and the media, you mention UFOs and you're laughed at oh, you believe in ufos, do you? Oh, you're crazy, you know, oh, oh, little green men and all of that. Now, suddenly, now that's been taken very seriously, that you know, they're starting to say, oh, it's this guy, that's guy, and it's not only is that actually far more interconnected with this than people realize, but it's the same sort of thing is that certain things have been purpooned and dismissed by society. And so, therefore, we instantly sort of like, like, like, you know, oh, no, don't want to talk about it, no, no, you know, like the thing of like, when people, well, when you're like over children, like, like, say, oh, you know, I, I can see a ghost or I can see a unicorn, and and you, sooner or later, someone's going to say to them don't say that to, don't tell people, because they'll think you're mad and we've been dismissed.

Speaker 2: 22:46

Now there is medical science that shows what we call the pineal gland, which is literally here. So it is a gland, partly. So. Half of it is a gland, and as a gland because glands produce chemicals and it produces free chemicals it produces melatonin, which, um, which helps you sleep, so like when you get tired and drifty, that's produced by your pineal gland, that's melatonin meniline, which affects the your skin complexion. So when you stay up too much and you get pasty looking, that's because your pineal gland is not producing enough melatonin. And it also produces DMT, dimethylmultipedamine, which, funny enough, society has made illegal. But dimethylmultipedamine your brain produces and your lungs, but the stuff that your pineal gland produces helps you dream. It's illegal, but dimethylmultriptamine your brain produces and your lungs, but the stuff that your pineal gland produces helps you dream and visualize and see things. Now some people know this, but what they don't know is that gland actually has an optical nerve that goes straight to the visual cortex of your brain. So you literally have an eye, the visual cortex of your brain. So you literally have an eye in the center of your brain. There was an eye right there, so we talk about the third eye. Actually it's above the other two, so it's your first eye.

Speaker 2: 24:18

Now I was part of case studies back in the 90s done by private organizations that wanted to find out what this eye was for. Why do we have it? Is it redundant, is it active? And because qigong and tai chi practitioners and meditators especially have always said, like you know, they can, their vision improves or they see energy and they can see auras. And so they wanted to test this eye. So they had us, the these, these uh practitioners, high meditation practitioners, and then they also had normal job blocks that are in.

Speaker 2: 25:03

And what they did? They were flashing infrared and ultraviolet, because they had suspicions that that's what this eye picks up. And for us, lo and behold, we were seeing flashes of light With our eyes closed. In the MRI scan, we were seeing this light, we were seeing the infrared and ultraviolet. But what they weren't expecting the average Joe Blocks, though they didn't notice anything officially on the MRI scan the MRI scan was showing that their brain was picking up infrared and ultraviolet light, that it was seeing it, but it wasn't being stored in the memory, that that they said their eye, his first eye, was working, but it wasn't. It wasn't picking it up, and there was a debate why this happened, and it goes back to this thing of when we're kids and at some point a lot of people are told don't, don't admit that you can see stuff, don't admit you can hear stuff, don't admit that you know when, when you think about something, they phone up.

Speaker 2: 26:15

They suddenly phone you oh don't, don't make that public, because people think you're crazy. So we're literally told to dismiss our let's call them psychic abilities. That these abilities psychics a bit, you know they're abilities, they're abilities you have, but you're told to ignore them, you're told not to focus on them. And this is what I learned is that these abilities are real. Learn is that these abilities are real and they and they exist, like, for example, like our heart.

Speaker 2: 26:53

The normal evidence now in science is showing that our heart is actually a electric, magnetic generator and it's actually like one big. It's like a what? Uh? One? One big, um, it's actually like one big. It's like one big. It's not really a muscle as such, but it's like one big ribbon of fibre, of tendon and muscle all wrapped. You know, it's almost like a wrap and like we see it, we think it's all in two parts and you know, it's like a big muscular thing, but it actually seems to be like this big, long, like a tendon of sorts or a muscle. That's a big wrap and it all wraps together but it generates energy and it generates what they call a torridial field, or torrid field the doughnuts.

Speaker 2: 27:39

Now, that field, we know. When you're happy, that field expands. When you're scared and angry and frightened, that field contracts. When it expands, your cells start to regenerate and your body regenerates. This is what part of epigenetics. So when you're happy and in love, energy, your body goes in healing mode and it goes into thriving mode. But when you're scared and tense and frightened and angry, that field shrinks and everything outside that field starts to break down. Your cells start to break down, your body starts to break down.

Speaker 2: 28:21

So what they realized, what they found out, was is that the way you think and feel 100% affects your physical health. Yeah, so, and, and we sort of know this, you, we know, like, oh, you get stressed, oh, I've got a cold, I'm stressed, or or you know, I I've got a cold because I'm tired. You know, and, and we so. So we know this, so we know this, but we ignore this, we ignore this information, we ignore the fact and this field, they've also studied that this field is actually tangible, that we can actually sense it.

Speaker 2: 28:56

So when you hear that saying of oh, you know, when Doris walks in the room, you can feel the room lights up. When Doris walks in the room, you can feel her. You know the room lights up when Doris walks in. Well, doris's field is expanding so much that everybody else can feel that energy. It's time for energy. In fact, mother Mary and Mother Fraser and Gandhi were said to be like that, that their love energy was so strong. People knew when they entered their village people could feel things change. So that's amazing.

Speaker 1: 29:37

See, I love physics, I love quantum physics and I love science as well that you know, you, you throw in with the energy healing because you know, in modern lives, so really in our modern lives, which are so stressful, energy healing really does have a place, doesn't it? You know, 100%, you know, and it's a good way for people to keep that balance. I mean, I swear by, I've worked in the corporate world for 28 years and I'm now saying, I'm still saying, I should say, even though I have worked there, because of the energy healing. I think it balances. But you described it there perfectly. So how would people start to work on that, work on their energy? What's the best way for them to to start, because it's I think it's vital in this day and age.

Speaker 2: 30:41

I think I think the other.

Speaker 2: 30:41

So the word dow, the dow I mean, try these words they always mean more than three things, sometimes five, sometimes 27, um. So dao, dao means the way, the path, the balance, but the balance, the balance isn't a set thing, it's not like a scale. So that's still um, and I'll bring up the trusty book. So the Tai Chi symbol. So a lot of people call this yin-yang. Yeah, because that's what's in it, yin-yang. But it's actually called Tai Chi because it means the flowing balance, the supreme, ultimate balance of yin-yang, and this is meant to rotate like that, that yin-yang, and if you turn it to the side, it's a wave. Yeah, so, and this could be so many things. This is masculine and feminine, this is light and dark, night and day, cold and hot, positive, and again, nothing is one thing is that could like. So. So the which is yang you can't say, oh, all white is masculine. So all masculines are positive and all feminines are negative. Well, that's not true. That's rubbish, but it's a list. It's a list of things and it depends on those. Things have a big, long record. Yang means so many different things, but they flow into each other and blend. And the biggest thing for me is that you've got the yin and yang, the masculine and the feminine, but it's actually a middle one, because you know, sooner or later, when men and women get together, what happens Babies appear, so the sacred child. You've got the divine feminine, the divine masculine, so the sacred child. You've got the divine feminine, the divine masculine, the sacred child, or another way of seeing that is body, mind, spirit.

Speaker 2: 32:34

Now we very much in modern day society, yes, we talk about the body, we sort of talk about the mind, the emotion. When I say mind, I mean the emotions. So we talk about the mind, the emotions a little bit. But spirit, what's that? Thought, consciousness, that spirit, and what you think and what you feel and what you do, you manifest, you create, and this is what happens. Is that, whether, whether it's positive or negative, we're manifesting stuff all the time.

Speaker 2: 33:06

And we manifest stuff sometimes without realizing, because a lot of people nowadays are very stiff. They're very stiff, very rigid. Now, if you're physically rigid and stiff, that means you become emotionally rigid and stiff and that means you become energetically rigid and stiff. And but if you move and flow and twist and turn and and adapt physically. You'll do that emotionally and you do that spiritually.

Speaker 2: 33:37

It's like right now just a little a little joke, right now I sit on the yoga ball. So whenever people think, oh well, god, he moves about a lot, I sit on a yoga ball. So whenever people think, well, god, he moves about a lot, I'm on a yoga ball. So I'm not sitting still and stiff, I'm moving and flowing and I'm allowing the body to move and flow. And if the body moves and flows, my emotions move and flow, and if they flow, my mind, my spirit moves and flows. And that goes back to that Tai Chi symbol. It's about the flowingness.

Speaker 2: 34:10

I mean, I can teach you, you know. I said there's loads of things I can teach you, but there's one thing I would say is that dis-ease, illness, comes from stagnation. Stagnation comes from the wrong sort of stillness. There is a stillness that is good, but most of us do the not so good stillness. We are stagnant, we are stiff, we are rigid. You know like we hold our neck or shoulders in a certain place. So the biggest thing is to move and twist and turn. You know, like dance, swim, go for a walk, jump up and down on a trampoline. Whatever gets you moving, do it, and you know your passions. Whatever your passions are, are your your seafood. Your passions are your finger pointing towards your mission in life. Your your destiny. So you should be following your passions as much as possible. Move, twist and turn. One of the things as kids we get told off for doing is fidgeting.

Speaker 1: 35:20

Don't fidget.

Speaker 2: 35:22

Sit still, don't fidget. Well, actually it's medically proven fidgeting releases toxins from the body, the toxins that build up in the muscles and tendons. When we fidgeting releases toxins from the body. It the toxins that build up in the, in the muscles and tendons. When we fidget, it's the body shifting and twisting the, those movements so they even like you see me, like you know, like doing little scratch or whatnot. It's me releasing certain things building up because if you let them build up, they become a problem.

Speaker 2: 35:54

There's a eastern saying that like uh is that stress equals tension, tension equals illness, illness equals death. So if you get stressed, if you don't do something about it, you start becoming tense in the body. If you don't do something about that, that tension leads to illness. If you don't do something about that, that tension leads to illness. If you don't do something about that, it'll kill you. So you know, you know, let your tension out, like don't. That's why it's sort of that saying, sort of says don't get angry, don't get stressed, because you kill you, but if you can't help it, scream, shout, have a tension, tantrum, let it, let it out. Yeah, so there's a. I mean there's good places to do that and not so good places to do that, but that's what we.

Speaker 2: 36:41

We, we hold things, you know, we hold in the energy so much that then when we do release it it comes out in such a tolerant that it can cause a problem.

Speaker 1: 36:53

So we need to find a balance. Yeah, it's all about balance yeah, so when you talk, when you meet people who are very closed-minded and very rigid-minded, that's the start of that's actually them being very rigid. You know, stuck a little bit and actually if they shifted, if they went for a walk, like you said, or did martial arts or swimming or whatever it is, actually they would start to shift that because the body would shift the mind would shift, the spirit would shift yeah, and and and and it doesn't.

Speaker 2: 37:31

You know it. I've seen people turn their life around through painting. I've seen somebody turn their life through tiddlywinks you know which is the little coins but they loved it and they said, well, do that, do more of that. But when you do it, don't hold any tension. You know, just relax. And if you relax, you'll actually be better at it and they're oh really, you'll actually be better at it and they're oh really and and you know it's you, it.

Speaker 2: 38:00

The whole idea is it's that we, so we, we have a mass everybody, whether you're banana, whether you're male, female, banana or goat, we all have a masculine quality or energy, a feminine quality and energy and a childlike quality and energy. Your masculine side is your doing side, is your action. Let's get things done, let's let's do what we need to. Your feminine quality is your nurturing and your loving and your understanding. Your childlike quality is your playfulness, it's your all and wonder and it's your inspiration. So the the masculine side of you gets things started and starts things. Your feminine side of you nurtures it, keeps it going and and listens and understands. And your childlike policy comes up with inspiration or or solves problems and and you've seen the magic and all and everything, and we're meant to have all three, we're meant to balance, you know. So some people talk about the divine masculine, the divine feminine. Very few talk about the child, sacred child. And I'm saying not only bringing the child, but bringing all three. You need to balance all three okay, brilliant.

Speaker 1: 39:13

Thank you so much. It's been really interesting. But let me just ask you one more question, one thing that I always ask my guests. What is one thing, one spiritual thing that you do daily, that you could not live without?

Speaker 2: 39:32

oh, that's easy. Qigong, um, so, so qigong again, those 15 different meanings, but it basically means breath work or energy exercise. So exercise is doing something, but when you unify your breath with that exercise and you do it in a way that's playful for you, that's a qigong. So the action, the, the, the keep it going, and the sacred child, so, so, qigong, and there's so many different variations. I, um, I'd like to say I started learning this at 11 years old. Uh, and, and the ones there's three of them that I did at 11, that I still do today. There's three certain ones I do every single day and it's really simple the difference.

Speaker 2: 40:25

A lot of people have heard of Tai Chi, tai Chi, if Qigong was music, tai Chi would be classical music. So Tai Chi is a style of qigong. Ah, so, so, so, like most people go oh, I want to learn tai chi, and I really, because that takes about eight weeks to learn to a year. Do you really? Or do you just want to learn a couple of little exercises to get you on the, on the run? Oh, yeah, that's what I want to do. Well, that's qigong. So, so it's like, and there's a qigong for everybody and everything. I I always say you know, what do you need a qigong for? You know, like somebody says, oh, I've got bad back, I've got qigong for that. Or I want to uh, you know, improve my visualization got Qigong for that. I want to become a better ice skater, I've got Qigong for that too. So there is a Qigong pretty much for everything.

Speaker 1: 41:22

Excellent, and you are obviously so passionate about it, and that's also an important factor, isn't it? Find your passion in life, and you've obviously found yours. Oh, thank you ever so much for coming on. It's been a pleasure to talk to you and it's been fascinating to listen to you. So, thank you, you're welcome.

Speaker 2: 41:44

Thank you.

Speaker 1: 41:45

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