Your Thoughts Create Your Chemistry: How Energy Work Changes Everything with Nash Chase

Your thoughts literally create your body chemistry – a fascinating insight shared by Nash Chase, a Maori energy worker with forty years of experience working with the subtle energies that shape our health, relationships, and spiritual development.

Nash introduces us to the powerful concepts of the "ego matrix" versus the "soul matrix" – frameworks that help explain why some people constantly leak energy while others maintain resilience and strength. When we're stuck in the ego matrix, we become like "pebbles" – easily pushed around by external forces and negative emotional patterns. But when we connect with our soul matrix, we transform into "mountains" capable of lifting others up without depleting ourselves.

The conversation takes fascinating turns through the science of how thoughts become chemistry in our bodies (with "50 trillion cells listening to what you say"), the ancestral patterns that unconsciously influence our energy, and why digital addiction acts like a modern Medusa – hypnotizing us and turning us energetically to "stone." Nash shares practical techniques for filling your belly with energy, your heart with love, and maintaining a clear head, creating what he calls "sacred space" wherever you go.

Perhaps most intriguing is his perspective on dreams as spiritual messages and lower forms of astral traveling, offering guidance if we learn to interpret our personal dream symbology. The conversation culminates in a powerful insight: rather than judging difficult people (which drops us to their frequency), we can choose to love them more, elevating our own energy while creating positive transformation around us.

Curious about how energy work might complement your existing wellness practices? This episode offers both profound wisdom and practical tools to help you understand the invisible energetic exchanges happening in your everyday life.

Nash Chase - Energy Worker

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Chapters

• 0:00 Meeting Nash: 40 Years of Energy Work
• 6:51 Understanding Energy & the Buddha's Belly
• 10:01 Thoughts Become Chemistry in Your Body
• 15:48 The Ego & Soul Matrix Explained
• 23:20 Digital Addiction & Energy Depletion
• 28:43 Dreams as Spiritual Messages
• 34:14 Choosing Thoughts That Create Happiness

Transcript

Meeting Nash: 40 Years of Energy Work

Speaker 1 2:30

so welcome everybody to another edition of barn to the soul, and today I've got a new guest who is nash chase. So welcome, nash. Thank you so much for coming on to the podcast my pleasure to be here, yeah and nash comes to us all the way from sydney australia and he's a maori and an energy worker, and he's been an energy worker for the last 40 years. So interesting. Love energy workers because that's what I do. So welcome, Nash, and just tell us a little bit about how you came to work with energy.

Speaker 2 3:11

Well, look, I grew up in a very christian family and then, you know, learned about energy through that and my family had a lot of uh, inherited psychic stuff so and I was a big dreamer. So I dream about family stuff that happened before I was born. So that was my forte interpreting dreams. Yeah, yeah, and I'm still doing that. And then meeting my guide when I was six years old actually, and everyone thought I was crazy, but I still remember that quite clearly, you know.

Speaker 1 3:45

Yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2 3:47

It was a major part of my evolution. I think, yeah, major part of my evolution. I think, yeah. So, little by little, I studied everything about psychology and energy over the years, and my breakup in my marriage forced me to even look further. You know what I'm saying, yeah. So you know, a breakup was a wake-up process for me. Yeah, and still learning every day, of course, like everyone else. I mean the amazing thing there's so much online now, isn't there?

Understanding Energy & the Buddha's Belly

Speaker 1 4:22

yeah, absolutely. There's so much information out there isn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah definitely so.

Speaker 2 4:27

Anyone can go online and you know, see all the new teachers. It's incredible. Yeah, a lot of the people who come to me have gone to those people online. Then come to me. You know, see all the new teachers. It's incredible. Yeah, a lot of the people who come to me have gone to those people online and then come to me. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 4:38

Right, okay. So when people come to you, Nash, what do you help them with? How do you start working with them?

Speaker 2 4:46

Well, a lot of the time it's just helping them to not lose energy, like they might be losing energy in their job, with a particular person or in the family, and how to, you know, keep the belly full. You know the hurrah because people don't realise. You know the big belly, for the Buddha was just focus on the belly to make energy.

Speaker 1 5:06

You know what I'm saying? Right, he wasn't a fat guy at all.

Speaker 2 5:09

He wasn't a fat guy at all, he was a very skinny guy. So it's just a metaphor to make sure your second brain is really looked after Right. And a lot of that is in the new medicine now. You know gut food, et cetera.

Speaker 1 5:25

Yeah.

Speaker 2 5:26

And how it affects your later years. If you have gut problems, you have mental problems later. So all of that sort of gels with what I'm looking at, you know.

Speaker 1 5:37

Yeah, that's fascinating. I didn't know that about the Buddha at all.

Speaker 2 5:40

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everywhere you see the big fat Buddha. It was just a metaphor, you know.

Speaker 1 5:48

That he held a lot of energy there, that's right.

Speaker 2 5:51

He said well, make sure the belly is smiling, make sure the belly is full of energy, and all of the energy helps your mind-body, you know.

Speaker 1 5:59

Yeah, excellent, I love that I recently did. And what I find fascinating is if you the effect of like sort of looking after yourself physically? Yes, because the two are completely interconnected aren't they?

Speaker 2 6:14

Exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 6:16

If you do something physical, you are also cleaning your energy and upgrading your energy.

Speaker 2 6:20

Yes, yeah, yeah, so it's working with. You know the words you say, the thoughts you think and the food you eat, because that's energy, and I explain to them that you know everything you say is converted to either stress chemicals or happy chemicals.

Speaker 1 6:36

Yeah, which is?

Speaker 2 6:37

amazing, right, like 50 trillion cells listening to what you say, I mean that's amazing, you know, and that's the incredible spiritual energy of the human body, right, yes, that it converts thoughts and food into stress chemicals and happy chemicals. Pretty amazing.

Speaker 1 6:57

So really that is a real you know message to watch what you're saying. Pretty much you know yeah.

Speaker 2 7:04

And what you're thinking as well. Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know. Think to yourself as well. Yeah, like one person recently said well, you know you're angry and those angry thoughts are going into fight or flight, you know. Yeah yeah, definitely. Your happy thoughts are going to endorphins and keflins. So that's the power of the body to convert non-physical reality into physical chemicals.

Speaker 1 7:29

Yeah.

Speaker 2 7:30

That's amazing, isn't it?

Thoughts Become Chemistry in Your Body

Speaker 1 7:31

It's fascinating, I tell you what? Every day I have a song that I play, and, uh, just a pop song, but it makes me, oh yeah me. It makes me smile a minute I hear yeah, yeah, yeah and so I start off the day in that you know I sing to it in the car while I'm going to work or whatever and I, and I arrive happy, I arrive happy, and that's a whole you know.

Speaker 2 7:55

Cool, cool.

Speaker 1 7:56

And then when you meet people, they pick up on that and it becomes you can move through the day with a lot more ease, I think.

Speaker 2 8:04

Yes, well, I have a similar thing. I have an affirmation which I sing I am centered, self-empowered, joyful, focused, clear. So An affirmation which I sing I am centred, self-empowered, joyful, focused, clear. So it's a way of using the left brain you know language and the right brain tune yeah, so it's a whole brain affirmation really.

Speaker 1 8:22

Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:22

And using, like you were saying, using song and rhythm to centre, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 8:32

And affirmations are brilliant. For that reason, aren't they? Yes, great affirmation.

Speaker 2 8:35

And you can be saying that in the mornings and just setting yourself up yeah, well, I do with the night ones and the day ones because of course the night ones, uh, the conscious mind goes to sleep and subconscious will take that into sleep form, you know so that's good.

Speaker 1 8:49

Yes, absolutely that's true, yeah.

Speaker 2 8:53

And there's so much online about, you know, taking those F-magic into sleep.

Speaker 1 8:57

Yes, yeah, definitely. That's a good idea. So we were going to talk today, weren't we? About the energy and how it moves between people and objects, so the ego and soul matrix. So just explain to us what is the ego and the soul matrix?

Speaker 2 9:16

Okay, so the ego matrix is basically the inherited energy you have from your family and also the shadow energy or lower frequencies you have with other people. So that's the ego matrix. When you're stuck in those negative stories, right yeah, and you're leaking energy. Negative stories, right yeah, and you're leaking energy because of those stories.

Speaker 1 9:37

Yeah.

Speaker 2 9:38

And I call that being a pebble. When you're a pebble, you're basically in the ego matrix, you're leaking energy all the time because you're infected by the external world, right. But when you're in the soul matrix, you have a spiritual quotient, you have a higher power that you believe in and you bring that into everyday life. And that means you're a mountain, not a pebble. The thing is, as a mountain, you lift the pebbles up to let them find their mountain, right, right, okay. So if there's pebbles there, you, you as a mountain, a mountain of love, light and joy. You are 50 trillion pebbles, so your energy is so powerful.

Speaker 1 10:19

It affects reality, which is the people out there, and energetically you help them to find their mountain right, okay so it's like an alchemy going from ego matrix to soul matrix, you know yeah, you, you, we were chatting before and you asked me what was coming up a lot, and actually you've tricked, you've reminded me because of a lot of things that I'm seeing at the moment with clients is there's a lot of ancestral totally, oh my gosh, they're holding on to yes, incredible and showing up with mum and dad or sister and some people who believe in past life.

Speaker 2 10:57

You can take them in, but others you can't. So you work with psychology rather than energy. You know what I'm saying? Yes, yes, so you've got to lead those left-brain people into right-brain language. Yes, you've got to lead those left-brain people into right-brain language.

Speaker 1 11:13

Yes, they've got to be scientific. Why do you think that ancestral stuff is coming up so much at the moment?

Speaker 2 11:20

Well, but I think on the planet there's so much chaos. There's literally that fear in the air. You know what I'm saying yeah, unconsciously, people are afraid of a war breaking out between all the superpowers, um, all the stuff that's happening economically. So if you're not conscious to transmute that fear and embrace it, so it becomes courage. Uh, you get caught up and infected, you know, yeah, so we say you've got to disinfect yourself regularly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 11:57

So how do we do that? How do we disinfect ourselves?

Speaker 2 11:59

Well, so you know, I teach people about the belly energy, as the ancients did, and their second brain is becoming part of everyday language now. You know gut food, et cetera. Brain is becoming part of everyday language now gut food, et cetera. So, feeling that hot inner sun in the belly and when you're focused on it with a connection to the higher power God, jesus, the universe, whatever is your version of higher power you're building your life force. So you're filling your belly full of life force. You're filling your heart full of love. You're filling your heart full of love and you're creating that cool head of laser-like clarity. Yes, so you're getting all the chakras working at peak capacity, all the assemblage points, the whole system working together, you know.

Speaker 2 12:46

So you're upgrading yourself really Pretty much regularly too.

Speaker 1 12:49

You've got to do a cleanse, you know, before a session and after a session, you know yeah, and presumably the more that people upgrade themselves, then in a community sense that energy is just going to be totally powerful.

Speaker 2 13:08

Yes, the morphic field starts to spread, you know yeah you're affecting your corner of the world, yeah, and you're creating that sacred space yeah, I love that.

The Ego & Soul Matrix Explained

Speaker 1 13:19

yeah, so, um, just go back to the ego energy though, the ego matrix and this um, where we're leaking energy and maybe we're tied into ancestral stuff. So I mean, there are obviously we've talked about, you know, food and what you're thinking, but sometimes people need help with that, don't they? Would you recommend people going to an energy therapist and just have?

Speaker 2 13:48

Well, I mean, a lot of my people are already going to psychologists or psychiatrists, so I'm just just giving them the energy aspect of it. Yes, yeah, I just said I don't. I don't say stop going to those people, because it's helping them as well. You know, I'm saying absolutely.

Speaker 1 14:04

I think energy healing works across the board, and whatever else you're doing, yeah, it's bound to help, isn't it in?

Speaker 2 14:12

my book totally and and the science is going to be um great in the future because, can you imagine, on your phone it's like, oh, my energy's a bit low, because that's going to happen. Energy on my phone, gee, it's a bit like, so that's happen you're gonna have to build an app well, some, some young 15 year olds gonna do it.

Speaker 2 14:35

You know, that's how it is at the moment right, but the beauty of appropriately, appropriately using the digital energy. You know, I'm saying yes because it's addictive to some of the people out there. You know, yes, yeah, and I told you about, you know, the book coming out how to break up with your phone.

Speaker 1 14:56

Well, there you go, yeah yeah, because we were talking before about how we feel. You know that there is such an overwhelm on digital stuff yes and it does have a negative effect. It does affect your energy greatly, totally. It's about stepping back from that to an extent.

Speaker 2 15:20

Yes, well, apparently it causes dopamine, which you get from all the highs you get from booze or drugs et cetera. So it makes you codependent on that, you know yes yeah, so there's addiction around digital stuff. Now that's frightening, isn't it? And everyone's in it, so to speak, but not knowing they're addicted right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 15:46

yeah, and actually I laugh, but I probably am myself, oh hey, we feel a bit lost without our phone, haven't we? Yeah, and I'm actively getting rid of accounts right at the centre because I think what do I need all this for? I don't know what's going on. And the scrolling business you sit there for hours and just scroll. Yeah, exactly, it's like you're hypnotized that's right.

Speaker 2 16:16

So you know, we didn't have that in our age, right? No, no, we're out and about outside, people inside with their you know, their screens and that's it. And I heard one guy describe it. It's like the Medusa You're hypnotised and you turn to stone when you're looking at the screen.

Speaker 1 16:37

A lot, right? Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2 16:38

That's a good metaphor, you know.

Speaker 1 16:39

Yeah, I like that hypnotized and turned to stone, and that's absolutely true. You know you're trying to talk to somebody who's scrolling. They don't even hear you.

Speaker 2 16:49

No, no, they're elsewhere. And it's funny when you see a whole crowd of kids at a table looking at their phones and not talking. That's the funniest thing isn't it?

Speaker 1 16:59

It's awful, though, but I think that is almost indicative of our society. We stop talking to each other.

Speaker 2 18:05

And some schools are taking the phones off the kids before they go to classes. Now, yeah, are they doing it over there in England?

Speaker 1 18:10

My kids are all out of school now, oh yeah of course. So no, to be honest. But I wouldn't be surprised, I shouldn't think they want them in the classrooms.

Speaker 2 18:18

Yeah, well, they're looking at their phone rather than listening.

Speaker 1 18:22

Yeah, exactly them in the classrooms? Yeah well, they're looking at their phone rather than listening. Yeah, exactly, so really we need to step back from digital stuff.

Speaker 2 18:27

Uh well, use it appropriately, that's yeah, that's it, isn't it, you know?

Speaker 1 18:31

yeah, have it for emergencies or just chit-chatting to family, but not not do your medusa, like you say, yeah, um, and and basically, and also we've talked about good food and everything, but also, you know, getting out in nature. That's important too, isn't it? And just um, because you know, like just going for a walk or going on the beach or whatever, it's like a meditation, isn't it it?

Speaker 2 19:01

It gives you a it is Well, apparently it pulls you into 7.8 hertz, which is the earth's frequency. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so, that's why nature is such a great healer. It takes you into a meditative state naturally.

Speaker 1 19:15

Yes, and all of this it's just a matter of you know somebody's struggling it, and all of this, it's just a matter of you know somebody's struggling. It's just a matter of doing one thing at a time, isn't it? So, detox your digital, perhaps go and get some assistance from somebody, but you know, every day you've got to think about the food and your exercise, and you know, just take one thing at a time, because otherwise that becomes a bit of an overwhelm as well, doesn't it?

Digital Addiction & Energy Depletion

Speaker 2 19:43

Yeah Well, it's just being laser-like in what you choose to focus on, right.

Speaker 1 19:49

Yeah, exactly yeah. What else would you recommend to your clients that come in?

Speaker 2 20:03

Well, like I say, I get the belly. Show them how to get the belly full, the heart full, with love. You know it's love for the higher power, love for the people around you, getting that low frequency, operating that cool head of laser-like clarity, and I show them how to imagine the heart light is touching the heart light of the person in front of them and the belly is touching the belly of the person in front of them. So that's the. You know it's like we have quantum entanglement. This is energy entanglement. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 20:28

Yeah, so you encourage them to see that they're connected to everybody.

Speaker 2 20:32

Yeah, yeah. So you know the energy that is keeping 8.2 billion people on the planet in that spiritual frequency. It allows us to feel it at our everyday level. You know, yeah, yeah, and because we're all connected, but the ego thinks we're disconnected yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 20:52

So we're all connected to each other's energy. We're connected, yeah, yeah and the soul matrix.

Speaker 2 20:59

You know that in the ego matrix you don't believe that actually. You know yeah.

Speaker 1 21:04

So if we've got somebody in the ego matrix, how do we shift them into the soul matrix?

Speaker 2 21:10

well, you don't shift them, we just love them more. You know so you're sending your heart, love and your belly energy into them, totally nonverbal, no dialogue. Actually, sometimes dialogue mucks it up. So if you practice that energy wherever you go, you build that spiritual muscle. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 21:31

Yeah, so if somebody's horrible to you and is really an angry person, you just love them more.

Speaker 2 21:37

Well, it's just, you know, if you judge them, you drop to their frequency. But if you judge them, you drop to their frequency. Yeah, if you love them, you ascend.

Speaker 1 21:42

You know, I'm saying yeah, yeah a lovely way to just behave, you know, yeah, yeah so it's you.

Speaker 2 21:51

You're using your spiritual quotient in a way that's not preachy. You know, I'm saying yes, yeah I like energetic. It's non-verbal. You're not telling anyone about it, you're just making sure you're creating sacred space wherever you go, you know.

Speaker 1 22:06

Yeah, and like you say, if you drop to their level, that's not helping either of you, is it?

Speaker 2 22:10

No, no, because you're just dropping into the ego matrix and you know doing all the stories, get caught up in the stories. That's why a lot of people don't realise they're getting infected by other people's stories every day, the energy that's exchanged, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 22:25

Yes, lovely. Talk to me about dreams, nash, because we mentioned them earlier and you work with them, don't you? Yes, so how do you do? What do you think dreams are?

Speaker 2 22:37

for a start, well, I, think dreams are a lower version of astral travelling. Yet I believe, like a lot of the ancients believe, that we astral travel every night. We do multidimensional travel and a lot of the dreams come back and move down from dream form. They're actually originally astral travels. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so the average person gets dreams rather than astral traveling. But when we're young we do a lot of astral traveling because we haven't been fully programmed, you know. So kids are little borders and little christ consciousness because they're bringing that spiritual energy into time and space, you know yeah so that's why we love being around them.

Speaker 2 23:20

They're blessing us with their presence because they still got that little bit of heaven on them, you know.

Speaker 1 23:25

Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 23:29

And I heard that the heart is one of the major organs created first and everything grows around that. So that's why the heart is a major energy in the spiritual frequency. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 23:40

Yeah, because that's where we start from, we bloom from.

Speaker 2 23:45

Yeah yeah, yeah, the longest journey is from the head to the heart, because living in your head you're just humpty-dumpty with a small torso, but when you're living in your whole body you have head, heart and belly and all the chakras. You know all of you is operating.

Speaker 1 24:02

Yeah, and all of you is operating. Yeah, and all of you is operating in unison.

Speaker 2 24:04

But that's right, it's teamwork. It's teamwork. 50 trillion cells working together yeah, that's pretty amazing, you know so do you?

Speaker 1 24:11

do you analyze dreams, nash? Do you well?

Speaker 2 24:14

I look for metaphors, like you know. There might be, uh, a new house, uh, that's in the dream, and that might be a new self. They're creating, a new dynamic. They're creating and they might be getting bitten by an animal and that might be their anger in their life and they're getting infected by it. Yeah, and we call that the dragon energy and how to train the dragon. So the anger becomes passion, you know.

Speaker 2 24:40

Right, okay, so you don't get rid of it or kill it you just transmit it yes yeah, you flip it into something yeah, so there's a lot of alchemy that you can do with the dream rather than see it at face value, and you get to know the language of the person you're working with pretty quickly, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 25:00

So dreams can be a way of people processing what's happening to them.

Dreams as Spiritual Messages

Speaker 2 25:04

Oh, totally, and I always ask for dreams for my people and that gives me insight into what's happening for them, because I think it's just a crazy dream. But I said, well, no, it's actually your soul speaking to you in dream. Speak, right.

Speaker 1 25:19

Yeah, so can your soul give you information? Can your soul sort of say to you, give you a dream where it says I think this is where you need to go to next?

Speaker 2 25:32

totally, and it it might be obvious to them, though, so I've got to teach them how to read their own dreams.

Speaker 1 25:38

You know, I'm saying yes, yeah that's the key, really, and they have their own legend. They read their own dreams. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 25:42

Yes, yeah, that's the key really, and they have their own legend, they have their own metaphors. There's none the same. It's just pretty individual, you know. Yeah, it's fascinating because everyone dreams and apparently in the dream laboratories they stop people from dreaming and then you start dreaming when you're awake. So you make up for it in your mind oh wow, oh wow. So you're awake and you're having images and hallucinating. So we need that dream state and that deep sleep state.

Speaker 1 26:16

So the fact that we need it like that, do you think it is a process that we are sort of cleaning our energy?

Speaker 2 26:24

Cleaning our energy, but also revisiting the spiritual realm. You know, Revisiting the what sorry? The spiritual realm. Oh yes yeah, yeah, because you might have forgotten it. In this reality, there's always a reminder and dream, you know. Yeah, and that we can access it at all times and if they get to read it they can see the messages.

Speaker 1 26:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 26:47

They see when it's real, when it's, you know, previewing something. They see when it's a metaphor. So you get pretty good at knowing your own legend, you know.

Speaker 1 26:57

Yeah, I must admit I have not every night. Some nights I don't remember my dreams, but a lot of my dreams are very, very vivid.

Speaker 2 27:06

yes, real visual, like you're watching a film, but I know I'm dreaming as well yes, yeah, those lucid dreams uh are magical because, um, and there's a lot of uh things online to access more lucid dreaming. You know, I mean, that's how far ahead we are. It's even on Apple, I think. So when it's mainstream and you jump to Apple, then you know it's there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so meditation is on Apple now and all the other things that used to be woo-woo, you know yeah?

Speaker 1 27:41

I think it's fascinating that it's like another. You know, while we're asleep, we can be accessing information, we can be accessing health.

Speaker 2 27:48

Totally. You know Totally, and I use a lot of music to help take me into that set I have in the background. I've just got an old mini disc and I play it in the background and that helps the subconscious go to that set. You know, yeah, and there's so much online that state. You know, yeah, and there's so much online you can. You know I was going to say that there's loads of apps.

Speaker 1 28:11

Yeah, yeah yeah, sound of music.

Speaker 2 28:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Sound of nature, Exactly exactly, you can dial it up. It's amazing, isn't it?

Speaker 1 28:20

Yeah, so that's really just a route into that dreamlike state.

Speaker 2 28:25

Yeah, using music as an adapter into higher consciousness, you know.

Speaker 1 28:31

And do you think people who struggle to sleep properly there is a connection? There is something about not wanting to see what your soul has to say.

Speaker 2 28:41

Well, for some people. But for other people it's just that their mind is so busy, the monkey mind is chattering, so they can't go down to sleep. For them, you know. Yeah, yeah, and other people are taking medication to get there, you know.

Speaker 1 28:55

Yeah, yeah, and some medication stops you dreaming, doesn't it? That's right.

Speaker 2 29:03

So people come to me with medication. I don't tell them to go off it, I just say well, just add this to what you're doing and if it works, then ask your doctor to halve it, or something you know yeah. Don't go cold, turkey no, but use it appropriately, you know.

Speaker 1 29:18

Yeah, Again you know, energy therapy is amazing alongside everything else, isn't it?

Speaker 2 29:24

Yes, it's an add-on really.

Speaker 1 29:26

Yeah, it's part of your whole holistic health plan.

Speaker 2 29:30

Yeah, and you know Einstein talks about energy and one of the major scientists. We are energy, you know, just vibrating at different levels.

Speaker 1 29:40

Yeah, absolutely so. When it's not included, I do think people are missing a massive piece of this. Totally absolutely so. When it's not included, I do think people are missing a massive piece of the story.

Speaker 2 29:49

Totally, totally Well, especially, as you said, they don't realise their thinking is so powerful that it gets converted to either happy chemicals or stress chemicals. That's amazing, right.

Speaker 1 30:01

Yeah, I think that's extraordinary.

Speaker 2 30:03

I know it is extraordinary, and so when I get them to watch their thoughts and their language, they start to see the change, because they're choosing the thoughts that make happy, chemical thoughts, you know.

Speaker 1 30:16

Yeah, which physically makes you, you know well, on all levels, you're in a better place, aren't you?

Speaker 2 30:22

Well, you know, you're dissipating the fight, flight or freeze process. You know I'm saying yeah, definitely excellent.

Speaker 1 30:30

I think that's an amazing um um.

Choosing Thoughts That Create Happiness

Speaker 2 30:34

You know point to take from this that your thinking is basically dictating um how you feel as a person, I think, I think, I think that's amazing, and I and the body of the body, and let's say this body, this latest body is about 2 million years old from when they found how far back. So it's 2 million years old and it's got a lot of wisdom which we block off by overthinking, you know yeah, or paralysis of analysis. So we've got to get back to just being with the body, you know yeah, and start living in the head.

Speaker 1 31:14

Yeah, absolutely Fabulous, Nash. Thank you so much. I've loved talking to you.

Speaker 2 31:22

It's a pleasure talking to you and it's great to know a lawyer is doing energy work.

Speaker 1 31:26

That's amazing I know people don't. You know what. I've tried to mix it as I've gone through my career 28 years as a lawyer, but it's wow it's never. I've never been able to cross it successfully in the corporate world. People don't know what you're talking about, and which is a bit frightening. Really, there's a huge I know a lot of people who dismiss energy as woo, woo and rubbish, but you and I both know that it has to be part of the whole, otherwise they're going to have a disease, a disease you?

Speaker 2 32:03

Yeah Well, you're the only lawyer and I was doing energy work.

Speaker 1 32:08

Ah, well, that puts me in a category all of my own, now, pretty cool, yeah, yeah, yeah, completely unique me. Yep, that's amazing. I'm embracing that. I'm embracing that Brilliant. So thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 2 32:24

It's a pleasure, I really appreciate it Brilliant.

Speaker 1 32:27

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