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The Orchid: Unlocking the Power of Feminine Energy Within Everyone with Rocio Aquino and Angel Orengo
Feminine energy isn't just for women—it's a vital force within all of us waiting to be understood and embraced. In this deeply moving conversation with authors Rocío Aquino and Angel Orengo, we explore the transformative journey behind their novel "The Orchid: The Secret Code of Modern Goddesses," which serves as both a compelling story and a practical guidebook for inner healing.
Rocío shares her deeply personal struggle with forgiveness that sparked their creative journey. While her partner Angel possessed a natural "Teflon" quality when facing life's challenges, Rocío carried emotional heaviness that took decades to release. Their contrasting experiences and shared study of spiritual psychology ultimately inspired them to craft a novel that makes powerful healing techniques accessible to everyone.
What makes "The Orchid" truly special is its perfect balance—only 10% focuses on problems while 90% explores practical solutions through the story of five women at a healing retreat. The authors reveal simple yet profound practices anyone can implement immediately, like speaking to yourself as your best friend for just sixty seconds or cultivating gratitude even in difficult moments. These tools create vibrations that expand inner peace and push out insecurity, regardless of your background in energy work.
The symbolism behind the title reflects their vision—like the 30,000+ varieties of orchids, each person is beautiful, unique and resilient in their own way. Interestingly, "orchid" derives from the Greek word for testicles, perfectly capturing the book's essence of balancing feminine and masculine energies within everyone. This balance creates true power and healing.
Through "The Orchid," Rocío and Angel invite you to experience a complete literary healing retreat at your own pace. Whether you're new to energy healing or a seasoned practitioner, their story offers fresh perspectives and gentle reminders that transformation begins within. Their ultimate goal? To create ripples of self-love that expand outward, helping each reader become "the change they wish to see in the world."
Ready to experience this transformative journey yourself? "The Orchid" is available worldwide in both English and Spanish, including an audiobook version for those who prefer listening while driving or during daily activities.
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so welcome everybody to another episode of farm to the soul, and I'm very excited for this episode because I have roshia quino and angel arenjo. Have I pronounced that right? Perfect, welcome, welcome. Thank you so much for coming on to the podcast thank you so much for having us.
Speaker 2:It's a pleasure to be here and having this intimate conversation A true delight.
Speaker 1:Excellent. Thank you for supporting the podcast as well. That's lovely. Now you two have written a book called the Orchid the Secret Code of Modern Goddesses and you very kindly gifted me a copy and I have been reading it and I've been thoroughly enjoying it actually Not finished, but I have been really enjoying it. So let's start with the Orchid, because how did you come to start writing it? What prompted you to? Because actually writing a book is quite hard, isn't it? I know from experience it takes a long time and it takes a lot of your time and effort, and you know. So what prompted you to start that process?
Speaker 2:You know, natasha, at one point we've been very lucky to live in several places around the world. So we have Hong Kong, london, mexico, miami. Now we are in LA and at one point you know where I was searching for forgiveness and how you forgive and how people really let go of something, because I was carrying so much heaviness inside of me, so much and the beauty of this is Angel, he didn't have that heaviness within him. The same things happened to both of us and at one point I don't know let, I didn't know how to let go really, and he was a master and I always ask him how did you did it? How did you did it? And he was without words of the process, how to really he didn't. It's like a he has a teflon, okay, and I didn't.
Speaker 2:And at one point, after really being a master and a study, I begins to heal, to really let go, and I, instead of me relating to the world from a place of victimhood, I begin to relate to the world for a place of possibilities, empowerment and another thing. And at that point, when I feeling great, I came to him and it's like you know, let's do a TV show to share all these tools to everyone, because it took me only 30 years to get it. Yeah, so. And we came from the world of TV Right, okay, yeah so, and we came from the world of TV, right, ok.
Speaker 3:So it was not a ludicrous idea when she suggested it and in fact we had over the course of a year before. I mean, obviously, when you ask someone, well, how long have you been?
Speaker 2:in search.
Speaker 3:Well, since I was, born Right, technically, but really in a concerted effort. A year before we began doing a mastery in spiritual psychology, we read hundreds and hundreds of books and we were lucky that we were sort of in an inroads in our lives. I had exited my corporate career, rocio, we had time. Our daughters became teenagers, so they were now, you know, entertained in other ways, yeah, and so we found ourselves with time and we dedicated all of our time to this and we saw each other change. So much, natasha, we would come out of.
Speaker 3:We were doing Zoom digital lessons in separate rooms. We would come out and we would look at each other and say is this for real, the way we're feeling, is this real? And you know what it was? Because we were experiencing it. And it was great that we were experiencing it as a couple, because one or the other would have felt, probably, that it's crazy, it's impossible, and then phase the environment around them. But here we had the reinforcement of the other person saying, yes, I feel the same way.
Speaker 3:And so when she suggested it, it was a sort of a no brainer, but I, with my experience in the world of entertainment I was in sales I told her, if we knock on the door of the people who control the money right now. They just laugh at us and say you're out of your mind. You've never done anything creatively. You may know a lot about the industry, but you've never done anything creatively. So I shared with Rocio why don't we write a book? Why don't we write a book? Why don't we write a story? Because if we're able to change one life and help that life become in the way in which we're feeling now, it would have already been worth it. But if you know, but if millions of people begin to look differently at themselves because they've read the book, then we have a movement, then we have a following, and then we can go and knock on those doors and say, hey, we have a great idea for a TV show or a movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, wow, you know. So much of that resonates with me because I have also written a book around past life regression and, and it's a story past life progression and, and it's a story, but there's a lot of truth to it and I wanted to because people are quite frightened of energy healing sometimes. Yeah, so it's. It's an amazing way to introduce it without saying, you know, so that they can take it on board at whatever level they want to take it on board.
Speaker 1:It's complete fiction they can take it at that level or they can begin to start thinking about things and the way that you talk through the treatments and the therapies and is a very similar way you're introducing it and it's up to them whether they're ready to take on board some of those aspects.
Speaker 2:Totally. You know we've been. I was trained to live in a victimhood way. Really, my family, my mom, died when she was 48, really because she didn't know how to release, how to forgive, how to change her way. It was like this is my life and that's it, so she didn't have any help. So, finally, I found through many years and to live in a very successful life, many years and to live in a very successful life, but even though I was successful, but I was still carrying many, many heaviness, pain with me. You see, and at one point, when I was really feeling, is this idea to? You know, I'm going to put the way, the most easy way possible for people to understand that we can learn from another perspective.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like when you go to school and you begin to begin to observe the cases of doctors or how you say, in business yeah, other case studies yeah, so the novel, if you are reading it, is that example of different possibilities and you can take whatever you want so yeah, you know it it's.
Speaker 3:It's interesting that, sasha, because what we tried to do is to capture what we were experiencing. Some of you just finished the blue tape exercise, and the blue tape exercise was something that actually Rocio did in a retreat when she had to express in front of the group how she was feeling and expressing herself. And we came home that evening after that weekend and it was such a powerful experience that I was Rocio. That needs to be in the book. That exercise needs to be in. Let's Capture it. So many of the times it was because she feels in a different way that I didn't, even though, as you mentioned before, I had this Teflon type of mentality and behavior. I couldn't put into words what I was experiencing, so I was limited in being able to share it. But when I saw her experience it, I all of a sudden had words and it made sense to me and it resonated so deeply within me that I grew and expanded from that.
Speaker 3:And so, really, the book, you know, while it's fiction, there's nothing fiction about it, because everything has been experienced by someone in this case us and all we're trying to do is give it a different face, yeah, a different venue, if you will, for the person to feel a bit, much more connected to these women in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that blue tape exercise was a tough one, I think, mm-hmm, definitely. What was also fascinating was, as I was reading through it. I mean, I have done 20 years of energy work and you know, when you start it you don't think you've got any issues. But you know, 20 years later, I'm still at it. You know, 20 years later, I'm still at it. And what you start to do is think, oh, does that apply to me? Have I got that belief system? So you start to sort of you start questioning yourself. And I think that's really powerful because people who've not experienced energy healing will start. You know, just that step of saying, oh, let me think a bit more about my childhood or my relationships, or you know, have I got that thought? Do I believe that about myself? You know, and they start the healing. That just starts the healing, doesn't it? Even if you do nothing more, they start that inquiry. So that was quite because I found myself doing that for it.
Speaker 2:So that was quite powerful is really that's the point to try to create a place, a safe space, because doesn't need to be difficult. It's only a curiosity yeah and it's okay.
Speaker 2:So for what reason I I act the way I act, or for what? And that makes totally difference experience. So we want to present in the most helpful way different tools, because you're going to see, 90 percent 10 percent of the book is about drama, the drama that we live inside. Yes, and 90 percent of the book is about drama, the drama that we live inside. Yes, and 90% of the book is how we can go out of the drama.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:And the tools that are available, and we wanted to. You know, and as you know, many of these courses or experiences and like, it's expensive, right, and not everyone has access to either money or time to dedicate to it and so we wanted to ensure that, in one book, we could give somewhat of a well-rounded and complete experience of what it could be like. Yeah, if all I have is this one time to read one book and I was able to apply these lessons awareness, gratitude, forgiveness, acceptance and intention. We wanted the reader to walk away saying I have a formula that if I choose to apply it in my life, it could potentially change the way I live, the way I feel, the way I act, and it should be enriched by many other things, but if all I have is this, that alone is going to put me along the path, if you will, for further exploration and hopefully towards greater, greater depth and changes in your life.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I think a lot of people don't realize how powerful energy work is because they've never experienced it, so they don't know that they need it or they don't know that it would actually be useful to them. So I think, reading the book, that that will trigger the thought actually this is powerful stuff, this is, this is really helpful stuff to me yeah stuff, but you know what I mean no, that's why we want I want really, really a tv show.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, because if you begin to see, I saw in my culture how tv was modeling the behavior of people Really. For years the way we talked, everything was we were copying what we saw in the TV right. So we really are the result of a community, our beliefs, our society. So if you begin to see something different, then you can move to really bring solutions. Right now is very famous the program Adolescence.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So I have two adolescents who they have these tools and you know their experience of life is different.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So really this is a necessity that I saw around the different groups of women and friends who at one point technology came and took our lives, but it's took into a place that we are getting disconnect really of what is important, and the most important is to be connected to ourselves yes so we need to put their stories of empowerment and a happy ending.
Speaker 1:Yes, and introduce those tools for teenagers for women.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes. So it's very important to bring this space that you have, that begin to bring a thought curiosity it's like okay, but we can do it different. Yes, we can, and at one point I've been indoctrinated on trust on women only certain women, but judge everyone else, and it's like okay, I can change that too. Yeah.
Speaker 3:We just had, not long ago ago, we had a book club, an online book club, and we met and it was really beautiful because we were able to put into practice and, and and. For whoever is listening and and watching, the book will take you along and teach those tools, as as the women at the orchid, as as these teachers and healers at the Orchid are teaching it to the main characters, to the five of them. They do so in such a basic and loving way that you can't help it, but to learn it yourself, and so you're guided along with them. So, going back to the book club, we and to give an example of a basic tool, we really just invited everyone for a minute, one, 60 seconds to speak to themselves as if they were their best friend and to say whatever came to mind, and some people spoke about forgiving themselves, about holding themselves accountable, and it was really interesting, after one minute of that conscious conversation with your inner self, the emotion that it draws out on people, and something as simple as that it's.
Speaker 3:Our book has been called a band-aid for the soul and it's just that's it. You see a little opening somewhere and you put a little band-aid in it, and the band-aid, of course, is love, it's attention, it's caring, it's empathy, and when you do that, something happens within you. There's a little bit of healing and energy that moves and that leads you to be more courageous next time, to look at yourself differently next time you're in front of the mirror, and so that's, you know, an example of energy work that you can do at home, in the privacy of your bathroom, of your living room, bedroom. So there are ways in which we can move that energy. We're often scared of it, yes, we're often scared of it, yes, but if you do it with a lot of love and care, often that is a really great beginning yeah, absolutely, and I think it.
Speaker 1:You know it does give people tools, but it also, especially young people. It helps them realize that there are other ways of doing things. You know there are other ways out, so to speak, of their situation or whatever they find themselves in. So it's very powerful. Can I just ask you a question? Why the orchid? Why? Why an orchid? Why did you name it from the flower?
Speaker 2:at this, not many titles are available, so at one point we want to call it the garden.
Speaker 3:The garden.
Speaker 2:The garden was already taken, but to be honest after is not a coincidence.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That the name was available because really represents much of what we are thinking, the vision, and the vision is women are beautiful, incredible, fantastic. Everyone is different, everyone is resilient.
Speaker 3:And everyone is spectacular.
Speaker 2:Yes, so you have more than 30, 30 000 different kind of orchids and they are amazing and some of them even has text testicles.
Speaker 3:so you have feminine and masculinity yeah, and the word orchid comes from the greek orchis, which means testicles, and that's because in the root system, when scientists were looking at them, they saw that the root looked like two testicles, and so they call them that, the, the testicle plant, if you will. So it's ironic that a plant that it's so feminine yeah, in nature has actually been already including the two elements that balance, right, the feminine and the masculine. And then the other element of it was natasha. That we knew because, well, knowing is is is broad.
Speaker 3:We were inspired and we were led to understand that this was about feminine energy, that our novel was about healing the feminine energy inside all of us and to strengthen women, the gender, because obviously this world is a little bit more leaning and I'm being a little bit too kind in order not to go in that direction, but too masculine leaning, obviously. And the balance is required, just like a body need, the human body needs two strong legs to stand on. We need to strengthen both the masculine and the feminine and when you find that balance, you're healthy, and that was the intention. And, of course, healing the feminine inside all of us. And I'm speaking now as a man where, when you're balanced in your feminine. Really, you unleash even greater power than what we're led to believe by being just extremely masculine and only masculine.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask you about that. Why women? Because I'm very conscious, having a 20 year old, 22 year old son, that actually it's hard for them. You know it's hard for men and it's hard for sensitive men to to find their, just to find their way and to you know it's tough. But actually you've just answered that, so that's lovely. There's something in that for everybody. You know, men, totally yeah.
Speaker 2:Totally. We've been having very lucky that moms read the book with their sons to create bridges and to really have a conversation about the story of the character, so that open a conversation up. What do you think? Because of them they're gonna know better women, they're going to understand better who the mother is and all the things that we pass. So husbands have been reading with women, wives, wives and fathers to daughters. So really it's a win-win situation that to really read it together and have a conversation. And what do you think? I have two teenagers, daughters, and they, of course, they wrote, they saw the book and they have comments.
Speaker 3:They read the book and made comments and we integrated those comments into the book because you know their sensitivity was important yeah absolutely, and at the end, you know what this is.
Speaker 2:We are parents, we are normal people and at one point I was able to break the poverty mind mindset, mindset that I was carrying, yeah. And now the power and the expansion is endless. So I want to invite everyone to the party, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. So first of all, let's talk about your TV show. I know you mentioned it before, so is it present now? Is it something you're planning, because it's called the Highest Good, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Our company is called For the Highest Good, right good, and the idea is for this company to become a multimedia vehicle for inspirational stories. And what I mean by that is that often it's the case that stories and the stories are told often spend all its time speaking about the drama in someone's life and, towards the end of that story, for a very short period of time, they speak of their success, coming out of it, of that situation and living happily ever after. We wanted to, as Rocio mentioned earlier in the conversation, we wanted to focus on the drama but focus the most time on how people can come out of it and what are the tools that are available and really bringing that awareness and that conscience that there's more that you can actually do for yourself in changing the direction of your life yeah, absolutely, and then if life isn't
Speaker 1:happening at you, you, you, can you have some control in? Yes that you make, etc.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, and right now the, the tv show is on very, very preliminary conversations. We're spending the bulk of our time on promoting the book, because the book in itself is a complete experience. It is a seven day retreat at a spa of you know in which you can come out of it If you do nothing else, as I mentioned before, come out of it and really feel some changes in your life and have that be kind of a first step if you've never gone in that direction or, as you mentioned, it's someone who has been in doing energy work for such a long period of time simply a an opportunity to re-evaluate. Where am I? And oh, there's something there I need to pay attention to yes, yes, there's always something coming up, isn't it?
Speaker 1:it's that spiral, isn't it? It's never ending. We never, you never. If you meet somebody who says, oh, I've done my work, it's a red flag for me. You've never done as much, you know. There's always another layer, I believe there's always another layer.
Speaker 3:There's always a lesson yeah there's always an opportunity for growth and expansion yes, excellent.
Speaker 1:Well, I am really enjoying it. I really encourage people to read your book because I think it's um, um, I think it's a powerful tool and I I think it's layered as well, so you know it'll. It'll reach people on different levels, won't it absolutely, which which is really powerful. So, um, just earlier you mentioned um, a practical tool that listeners can start using. Um, can you have you got anything else that people can start doing in their spare time? Or I always get people to do energy work in the shower, but but cause, you know, nobody's talking to them and they're like, you know, they can focus, but you know, things that people can start doing, little practical tools that they can just start trying.
Speaker 3:Well, look, I am a fan um of gratitude fun, but we are fun, yeah, and it just works. You know, we've had um situations in which one of our daughters is having a challenging day and they get up and you know, and it's just I want this day to end, and sometimes the words today's youth uses is almost I want my life to end.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And sometimes they mean it and I'm sure there's a lot of people out there who do mean it and in those instances we've asked our daughter either of them lay down on the floor but it could be in the shower as well and simply begin giving thanks for those things in your life that you appreciate. Right, and that could be the shower itself I'm being able to take a warm shower right now, and I I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 3:I'm grateful that I have a moment alone by myself. I'm grateful that I woke up this morning and I had something to eat. I'm grateful, I'm grateful and grateful. What you are grateful for, it's almost secondary, it doesn't.
Speaker 3:What matters is that you enter into the vibration of gratitude. When you enter into that vibration, it starts to shift you and you begin to say thanks for the most insignificant things that you hadn't noticed before, and something begins to happen inside of you, and the only way I can explain it is that there's like a ball of peacefulness that just starts to grow and grow and it just pushes out those feelings of insecurity, of not being enough, and it just changes. And then, after a little while, you hear a like a sigh, a deep sigh of relief, and that is and now I understand is the shifting of that energy inside all of us, and so that is a really powerful tool that I encourage and, again, it's accessible to all of us at any time. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think that's lovely and again, it's accessible to all of us at any time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I think that's lovely. Thank you for that. Hopefully the listeners will take that and try that. I always ask as well. I always set intention to especially if I'm about to have a difficult or I think I'm about to have a difficult day about moving through my day with ease and grace.
Speaker 1:I love that phrase that's always you know and that just I don't know. It just calms me down and, like you say that, click it you, just you just go into a different calmness. Don't you ready for whatever you have to do?
Speaker 2:so thank you for that is is, I'm gonna say the same intention makes a difference in my day, yeah, and you know I have a partner that I sent every day my intentions and the person sends the intentions for me. So, keep accountability, yeah, helps. So, because this, no one say that needs to be difficult, drawing like complicated. You can have a lot of fun, you can have company. It's understanding, it's really the invitation is for more people. If you have another friend, invite her to read the book with you and together they can have a conversation. And it's like what do you think about this? Really? The questions, because it's a sounding board that is really important. So, find a company, so find somebody that, yes, that you can share.
Speaker 2:Send your intention for the day, yeah, yeah, and begins to put it more today we're gonna have fun. That's it, yeah, and the most, the most important part is really in the moment that you invest in yourself, really invest because you are the most important person in in in your experience. In that moment that you are investing yourselves, everything changed. So why wait, right? Yeah, so is is invest and buy the book, or listen the book, or for you to really begin to gain a lot of knowledge and you decide yeah, yeah, fabulous.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for coming to talk to us. I've really enjoyed meeting you and, like I say, I'm loving the book, so I encourage people to go and read the book. Not finished it yet, but I'll get there, not long to go.
Speaker 2:Natasha, I have a question for you. Oh yes, which room? If you are in the retreat, which room do you think will speak more to you?
Speaker 1:Wasn't there a cave room? Yes, I always love the idea of a cave. I don't know why that is. I have a little exercise where you tune into your heart space and I tune into my heart space. It's always a cave covered in green lichen. So when you, when it was about the cave room, I thought, oh yeah, that feels very safe, very sort of I don't know. Yeah, safe, that's the word. Yes, that would definitely be me the cave.
Speaker 2:Fantastic, I love that, the cave too. Yeah, really, I thank you so much.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it's been lovely to meet you and thank you so much for supporting the podcast, and I wish you lots of luck with the book and with your TV series.
Speaker 3:Oh, thank you, or your TV programme channel.
Speaker 1:Luck with the book and um and with your tv series or your channel.
Speaker 3:I shall, I shall look out for that thank you, um, it was look that the book is available everywhere amazon um. Many people in the uk are enjoying of it as well, and it's also available on audiobook, if that's something that the listener prefers, yeah oh lovely, that is good.
Speaker 1:I love audiobooks because you can listen while you're driving, or you know, which is like sort of wasted time to me. If I'm driving to work or driving home, I think, well, let's put something on that's calming. So that's lovely to listen to it.
Speaker 3:Excellent and the best part is, you can listen in Spanish if you want to run through, I might get the vibes, but I'm not sure that I'd really understand what was going on, but I might get the vibes well, yes, it's available too in English and spanish you know it's funny we had, I just recently we became aware we didn't know about an edward casey, um the sleeping prophet he was called, in the 19 early 1900s and I mentioned it because, um, he, a spirit, came to him and said, just put your head down on the book. And and when he woke up the next day he knew everything in the book. So this you know, energy is absolutely beautiful and I think when we open ourselves up for it, transformation happens in the most miraculous ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and when I was writing my book, I always felt and I was always given almost that was writing my book. I always felt and I was always given almost that what you, you know how you write your book becomes a ripple. That goes out, yes, and just ripples out and affects people in different ways. So, and yours is a real ripple, I think well, it's about love.
Speaker 3:It's about the love that we can experience ourselves and each one of us. And then when we in circles as the one we're now, when we come together, it just becomes exponential. And that's how you change um, and you impact the world positively by becoming. You know, I always used to read be the change you want to see in the world, and I didn't understand it. And now I do. Now I do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's about self-love, isn't it? It's about that kind of stuff yeah.
Speaker 3:Excellent.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much. It's been a real, real pleasure. So I will put all your details up underneath the episode and, obviously, the book, which is available all over. So if you've enjoyed listening to me chatting about the orchid, orchid, orchid, orchid, the secret code of modern goddesses, then please like and you can always subscribe to the podcast as well, and I will speak to you all soon. So thank you very much.