Beyond the Conscious Mind: How Theta Healing Transforms Your Reality with Kevin Orchard

Dive into the fascinating world of Theta Healing as solicitor-turned-energy therapist Natasha Price sits down with Kevin Orchard, her long-term client of over two years. This candid conversation peels back the layers of a healing modality that works beyond logical thinking to create profound transformations in both mind and body.

Kevin offers a rare glimpse into the client experience of energy healing, describing how muscle testing consistently reveals truths that surprise even him—proof that something beyond placebo effect is at work. "That's when you go 'oh hang on, this ain't no placebo rubbish,'" he explains, "because I would expect the answer to be the other and it's not." Their journey together has tackled everything from everyday challenges to explorations of different dimensional realities and soul-level healing.

The physical effects of energy clearing emerge as a central theme, with Kevin likening sessions to visiting a "spiritual gym"—feeling fantastic for days afterward while his body integrates the energetic shifts. Perhaps most intriguing is their shared awareness of communication happening between their higher selves during sessions, creating what Natasha describes as an "energy bubble" that facilitates deeper healing. This unconscious rapport between practitioner and client suggests that effective energy work operates on multiple levels simultaneously.

For those considering this path, Kevin emphasizes that meaningful transformation requires commitment rather than seeking quick fixes. After approximately twenty sessions spread over years, the results speak for themselves—from manifesting long-blocked desires like a new kitchen to experiencing a fundamentally different quality of life. "I'm just vibrating at a different level," Kevin reflects, "where the other stuff just doesn't fit anymore."

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Theta Healing
• 7:10 Muscle Testing and Belief Removal
• 11:30 Physical Effects of Energy Shifts
• 17:34 The Therapeutic Energy Bubble
• 22:19 Long-term Benefits and Manifestation
• 29:41 Final Thoughts and Gratitude

Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:30

so welcome everybody to another episode of balm to the soul. And I'm your host, natasha price, and I'm a solicitor, an energy therapist, an author and um, what else am I? I can't think and a podcaster, of course I am. I'm a podcaster, um, and today we have got a new guest, so welcome, and his name is Kevin Orchard and he's an integrated therapist, but he's also a client of mine and that's what we're going to talk about. So welcome, kevin. Thank you for joining Balm to the Soul, hello, hello.

Speaker 2: 3:08

Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1: 3:09

It's a pleasure, and I just thought it'd be really interesting for us to have a chat, because you and I have been working together for oh, I don't know a couple of years now.

Speaker 2: 3:21

Yeah, two or three years, two and a half years, something like that, yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:24

Yeah, and you come to me for Theta sessions, Theta healing sessions, Theta Healing sessions. So I thought it'd be really good to talk about what Theta Healing is and get your take on it from the other side, so to speak. You know the benefits that you've felt.

Speaker 2: 3:42

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:43

Okay, so let me just explain to the listeners what Theta Healing is. It was a healing modality devised by a lady called vienna stiebel, and she's still around and she's still teaching theta healing. And theta healing is basically when the practitioner goes into a theta brainwave state in order to remove negative beliefs from the client's energy, and one major part of it is muscle testing. So the client has to muscle test to see whether they have that belief, yes or no, and then the practitioner will remove that. Now it's really hard to explain, isn't it to how how that works, but you have to experience it really. So how do you, um, kevin, cope with the muscle testing? Because we do it with the fingers, don't we?

Speaker 2: 4:45

yeah, yeah. Um, what I've noticed is it's not what confirms that we're doing good work. Is that it's not always the answer that you expect?

Speaker 1: 4:59

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:00

And that's when you go oh hang on, this ain't no placebo rubbish, this is something's going on here, because I would expect that to be the other and it's not. Yeah, and that's really, you know, know, a real good indication that we're doing some proper work yeah, and also um.

Speaker 1: 5:19

It can be completely illogical, can't it? Yeah, totally, you know if something comes to me, I might say to kevin just suspend belief here a minute, kevin, but just muscle test for this, so you don't actually even have to understand what your body wants to tell you or your energy wants to tell you, do you?

Speaker 2: 5:40

No, no, not at all. It can be translogical, can't it?

Speaker 1: 5:44

Yeah, it can, and we've had all sorts of wild and wonderful sessions. But that in itself is an affirmation for me, because I don't always understand what's going on but, actually, we are removing beliefs that no longer serve you yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:03

And there's those, those blind spots that you wouldn't get to without the sort of the way our sessions have gone, with that weird and wonderful stuff coming in and then testing it, and we wouldn't have found those without no, exactly, exactly, and actually I've really enjoyed working with you because I think you've pushed me as a therapist, because we have to have such wild and wonderful things come up yeah.

Speaker 1: 6:30

I think, oh okay, how does that work? You know that's not come up before. What's that about? Like different dimensions, and you know the the idea that a thought process creates a version of you and there's like thousands of versions of you. We've had all sorts of things come up, haven't we like that?

Speaker 2: 6:54

yeah, yeah. And what I've noticed recently the last three sessions I've had my speedometer on my van. There's two numbers that don't clearly show. Now, the next day after a session, those numbers are almost as clear as they should be, but I can read them and I can't. And then after two or three days, I can't read them again how weird is that that's happened three times. Now that I'm able to read the speedo fully, no problem.

Speaker 1: 7:30

And then you go back to not being able to read them again because the digits and the digital bits worn out a little bit yeah, and that that's a really good point, because when we shift our energy, things in our external world shift and that's often you noticing that. It's sort of that's often how you can tell that your energy is shifting and we have shifted something um, because something is showing up in your world differently yes, yeah, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 2: 8:02

And some of the sessions that we've had have led to sometimes it's taken a few weeks, but then I've been sat at home, some stuff has come up and I've been thinking well, where's this? And I've had some massive realizations or massive processing sessions where something's come up and boom the emotions out and then, oh, that was a big one, I wasn't expecting that. And and then everything's then settled down again yeah, there's no.

Speaker 1: 8:31

There's no time scale is there for shifting stuff? You know you can feel you can shift something the next day or even in the session yeah it can take quite a while to shift and quite a while for your energy to sort of integrate and settle again yeah after a session and the unconscious mind will will always protect me from shifting too quickly when I'm not ready.

Speaker 2: 8:59

So that's happened, definitely, and it's got me to a place where it goes okay, you've cleared all that other stuff that you've worked on, but now this has got to be done.

Speaker 1: 9:09

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:10

And you're like whoa, and then boom, and then it's like that was easy, that was a big shift and it happened in half an hour.

Speaker 1: 9:18

Yeah, yeah, but there's a lot that that ran up to it.

Speaker 2: 9:24

So, oh god, yeah, yeah, yeah and a lot of stuff that you know, clearing the wood from the trees. I think sometimes we've cut a lot of the bracken down and cleared a lot of the stuff so you could see the the um, the diseased ash in the middle. That was the one that needed to be cleared yes, that's a good yeah, that's a good analogy.

Speaker 1: 9:45

That, yeah, exactly, we finally and that's what we call digging in theta, because you tell me what's happening and I come up with some beliefs that come to me just intuitively, around emotions, around belief structures, and then we do a whole bit about you muscle testing and seeing if you're holding those beliefs, and then, if you are, we sort of go from there. So we sort of navigate through, don't we? We just follow the energy.

Speaker 2: 10:18

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:19

What comes up intuitively. Intuitively, and I might mention something, and you say, oh, that reminds me of this. And you know, we, we slowly get a list of possible beliefs, don't we?

Speaker 2: 10:31

yeah, and you've always been absolutely spot on with that. Your intuition has always been what about this bang? And you go oh, she's good, she's bloody good, because it's that I wasn't aware of until you've said it.

Speaker 1: 10:48

And then it's like there's a big arrow pointing to that one and you go oh god, yes, bloody hell, yes, and I think that just comes with time and I think that just comes with time and I think it also comes with being comfortable with you because we've worked together so long, so that actually there's no pressure or anything like that. I think sometimes therapists can feel very pressurized to know the answer.

Speaker 1: 11:15

I've got to know what you know what's happening and you don't actually a lot of the time you've you've got beliefs and um tested positive for them and we don't really understand what we're doing during the session, do we? But we just follow the energy and the yes and we just sort of clear it and it always becomes clear at some point.

Speaker 2: 11:39

yeah, yeah, yeah, it makes sense. You think, oh, why? Okay, that's why then, Blimey? No, we wouldn't have got there without a session like that.

Speaker 1: 11:48

Yeah, exactly. And what about physically? What do you feel physically after a session?

Speaker 2: 11:56

Physically I usually feel fantastic for a day or two days the last couple because we've been working on some sort of energetic um more of the what's in my physical and energy bodies relating to my physical health a little bit more. The last couple of times I felt like um reintegration taking place and I felt like my body's been reviewing some of the old energies and just going. Let's experience that again.

Speaker 2: 12:26

As it goes yes, and it's been like, oh, I need to refill this, and then it goes and you go. God, I'm glad that's not my reality anymore. Yeah, um, so it's been. It's been different, but, but normally I feel absolutely fantastic. I feel really light for a couple of days and then the processing takes place afterwards. Yeah, obviously it's a very physical thing. It's hard to explain. To people who haven't had a session, I would say but you feel, it's kind of like you've been to the spiritual gym, yes, and you've had a full session and now you just need to take it easy and have a rest day now yeah and let it all just pan out, yeah yeah, all balanced.

Speaker 2: 13:17

Let all the big muscles rebuild.

Speaker 1: 13:19

Yes yeah, that's very interesting because, of course, your energy field is part and parcel of your physical, isn't it? So, yeah, you know they're both integrated, they're both part and parcel. So if you, if we're sort of cleaning and clearing energy, you're going to feel that physically, and if you're, if you're cleaning and detoxing your physical, you're going to feel that ener. And if you're cleaning and detoxing your physical, you're going to feel that energetically, and I think some people miss that. So if you're working on your energy, you are working on yourself physically and mentally, aren't you Very much so?

Speaker 2: 14:48

God, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 14:49

Yeah, yeah. So there's a few points as well. So, first of all, you and I have worked together for what? Two, two and a half years, so it's not this, is it? No, no way, no way. You've got to work at it, haven't you? It's not like you. We can book a session every fortnight, or what it doesn't work like that either, does it? It's no. No, wait for it to integrate and then you just know. Then don't you when you need a new one.

Speaker 2: 15:16

And if you were somebody that wants to spiritual bypass their way through life, it's probably they're not going to get the best out of it. No, because it's brought stuff up for me that I've had to sit with and go. Let me know, this is heavy, this is heavy and this needs to go. What is it? And I've always been given what it is that I needed to look at, and then the shift has happened.

Speaker 1: 15:43

Um, yeah, it's not. It's hard work, isn't it really?

Speaker 2: 15:46

yeah, yeah yeah, because some people would just go and distract themselves and run from it. Yeah, and it's like well, hang on.

Speaker 1: 15:54

We're doing this work for a reason and if I want to get to there, I've got to do the groundwork and and purge what needs purging yeah, you've got to sit with what you're clearing and yeah, nation yeah yeah, the other thing I wanted to say, because we were talking about how we work and that, intuitively, stuff comes to me but what we did learn doing a session I don't know if you remember this, but our higher selves were having a conversation. Yes, we were both very aware that our higher selves were having a conversation and it made me realize that, actually, when a therapist and a client work together, you create an energy bubble of your own, and you're both in that bubble, aren't you?

Speaker 1: 16:39

yes, yeah, yeah so I think when you get to know a client and a therapist, vice versa, you work in that way and you become, and that's why things come to me and I don't really understand why, where they're coming from, but they resonate with you and you clear more when you get that sort of energy connection.

Speaker 2: 17:05

Yes, yeah, and it's a rapport between higher selves, almost isn't it yeah yeah, we're in rapport. They're in rapport and your guys and my guys go great, we can work. We can work together on this.

Speaker 1: 17:19

Yes, yeah, it was quite sunny that session, wasn't it they were having. We just both became aware that there was sort of they were all having a conf lab and working something out. Yeah, I hadn't. I don't always realize with clients, but I'm assuming that must happen with all clients and most therapists, I assume. So that's the way you know. Perhaps clearing energy works. So. And then the other thing was you were talking about how you felt afterwards and what came to me. I know it's hard to explain, but I always think if I've had a session, somehow I feel freer, I feel like you can, yeah, yeah, a definite sort of reset of this is how you should have been feeling.

Speaker 1: 18:15

Yes, without the crap yeah, yeah, that everybody carries around yeah, yeah yeah, and that's actually, that's a and I often say this to people because I do a lot of work on myself as well, but I realize how differently I would feel, um, and what a different person I was before I started doing the work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and there's a slow. There's a slow shift, isn't there?

Speaker 2: 18:42

you become a different person yeah, definitely definitely slow, considered, and then suddenly you jump up three or four steps and then suddenly you're on too far and you have to come back a little bit. But, um, people were saying people were saying to me after we first started working, like, well, I mean, how you've changed, you look totally different. And I started buying different clothes, most of them from charity shops. But I started buying different clothes and and my wardrobe expanded and and I got rid of loads and it's just just big changes. Yeah, and how I interacted with people was was different as well yeah, you just move through life in a different way, don't you?

Speaker 1: 19:26

yeah yeah, and, and that wasn't because you came to me with a problem about buying clothes or whatever it's a byproduct, isn't it? It's a you come with one thing and we clear lots as a bonus yes, yeah yeah, it's. We just follow the energy as to what needs to be cleared. It's a very layered thing, I think, isn't it? Yes, very much so, very much so so would you recommend kevin having a theta healing session?

Speaker 2: 20:02

So if people are prepared to do the work and they're in it for the hard work and the long haul and their goals are up there and they want better than they're getting, then yes, definitely. If they just want a quick fix and a placebo, there's plenty of people doing that out there that they can go to and they might feel good for a day or two and then it'll wear off and they won't have the effects that that we've had and we've seen and how many sessions have you had to feel like a different person?

Speaker 1: 20:37

I mean, I don't know, I wouldn't. I'd hate to get about 20, I should think. Haven't you over the over the months?

Speaker 2: 20:44

yes, yeah, yeah, and I had theta healing before. Years ago I had a session of a lady in worcester to help me with some stuff, but it seemed to be very surfacy at the time and that was probably what I needed and it got me into us into a place where I could then basically go back into my ego and convince myself I was wonderful, and the sessions that we've done have been very much about the soul.

Speaker 1: 21:12

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:13

The level of the soul and doing work on that level.

Speaker 1: 21:17

Yeah, and I have to say a lot of my clients. I don't work on the soul level, so it's clearly you were ready for that. Yeah, that's what was coming up to be. Um, that was what was right for you to clear at this moment in time, which is lovely yeah yeah, um. So I mean, people can come for all sorts of reasons. They can come for physical, they can come for a situation that they're stuck with, they could come for a spiritual reason.

Speaker 2: 21:52

Yeah, oh, it'll shift it. It'll shift stuff. Yeah, It'll shift stuff, and it'll be stuff that they, you know, like we said before, that's a blind spot that they couldn't see. Yeah, it'll be something ridiculous. You know, you could look everywhere and not find it, and then you just get a fetus. So, whoa, bang, gone.

Speaker 1: 22:15

Okay, that's great and also, you know, it's actually easier for somebody who is not right in the middle of it to be looking in. Yeah, pick a few things out. It's harder to see for yourself sometimes isn't it.

Speaker 2: 22:31

Yes, definitely, definitely. And you can't fix a problem with the mind that created it.

Speaker 1: 22:36

No, no, yeah, perfect.

Speaker 2: 22:39

You're doing the same thing over and, over and over again and nobody's seeing the results. And you're not seeing the results. Something needs to change. Yeah, you can't do that without having that mirror of a therapist to say, well, hang on, it's not that you keep saying it's that, but it's that. Or have you looked at this and that feedback?

Speaker 1: 23:01

And actually between sessions. Often you think oh okay, that's why that happens, and little things just drop into place, don't they? Yes, yeah yeah, and we've talked about you know it's hard work and you do have to work at it, but it's also fascinating, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 23:20

it is. It is and the levels of depth that we've worked on, and the all of those different dimensional levels and all stuff, it's, it starts to make sense towards the end of the journey. You know it's like, right, okay, and then it's like, oh, bloody hell, I wouldn't have got there without, without these sessions.

Speaker 1: 23:46

No, no, no, they've been fun, they've been really good. Um, and afterwards it always makes me think, wow, you know you can go all sorts of places with beta and and you know, it's not it.

Speaker 2: 24:01

It's not like you say, it's not surface level at all no, the one thing that was just it's a little silly thing, but it was quite a powerful session. I couldn't get a new kitchen fitted. Every time I looked at getting a builder or kitchen fitter or somebody to do the kitchen, it just wouldn't happen. They just wouldn't answer the phone, or that they'd start working somewhere else or they'd move out the area. It was just like god, this is getting ridiculous. And then suddenly it was boom, boom, boom. You're having a new kitchen and I've got a new van within weeks. And the kitchen was being fitted at the same time and I just went on holiday while he did. It went okay, I'm going, I've got a new van now, so I'm going camping. Right.

Speaker 1: 24:48

Bye, see you, good luck, hope it goes well yeah, so it all, just it all sort of suddenly fell into place it fell into place on different levels.

Speaker 2: 24:59

After that session. I'd got a new van, I'd suddenly got the money for the new kitchen and it all just happened and I went camping at the same time.

Speaker 1: 25:09

Yeah brilliant. Not that I can guarantee that happening for clients, but that shows an absolute shift in energy. Something shifted completely and you were able to manifest into your external world something completely different.

Speaker 2: 25:26

Yeah, yeah, and it really needed a new kitchen this place.

Speaker 1: 25:32

I'm glad I helped with that, and that's the other, because that is a reflection your external world, but what also? You can often see that it's worked by people's reaction to you as well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've experienced that yeah, so some people who may be not very friendly are suddenly very friendly and vice versa. It's like a and you think, oh, what's going on with them?

Speaker 2: 25:59

yeah, just I would say it's had a massive effect on my quality of life, um, how I live my life at the levels, cause I don't think there's much of a difference between life. I think you, you can live at that level and that level you still do the same things. It's only the quality that changes. Um, you know, you can go to the pub, you can go to a nice pub and have a nice meal, or you can go to the weather's booth. It's the same experience, but the quality's a little bit different.

Speaker 1: 26:30

Yes.

Speaker 2: 26:32

And the quality just seems to have changed for me and I'm just vibrating at a different level where the other stuff just doesn't fit anymore.

Speaker 1: 26:42

Yeah, that's lovely. Well, that's lovely to hear. Well, thank you, kevin. Thank you so much for coming on to balm, to the soul and um supporting me no, thank you, it's been.

Speaker 2: 26:56

I've been happy to um, you've just, you've had something in these sessions that's been like a laser that I couldn't find for myself, and you've gone bang, let's test for that one.

Speaker 1: 27:12

Yeah, oh well, that's good, I'm glad. Well, I'm sure we will have other sessions. Yes, thank you very much for coming and chatting on about fetal healing, and if you've enjoyed listening to Kevin and myself, please listen to some of the other episodes, and you can also subscribe to the podcast and I will speak to you all soon.