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Balm To The Soul - Energy Healing to soothe mind, body and soul
This podcast has everything you need to know about energy healing. My mission is to show that if you are not looking after your energy field, then you are missing a big piece of the puzzle which is our overall holistic health. If you upgrade your energy, you upgrade your life.
When we consistently look at, clean and expand our energy fields we are able to achieve better balance on all levels - that is mental, emotional, physical and spiritual. When our energy is clean and clear we feel more centered, joyful and focused.
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Balm To The Soul - Energy Healing to soothe mind, body and soul
Bridging Spiritual and Scientific Healing Through Reiki with Emma Roberts
The divide between conventional medicine and complementary therapies is narrowing, and Emma Roberts stands firmly at this intersection. As both a registered nurse with 25 years of NHS experience and a Reiki master teacher, Emma brings a uniquely balanced perspective to healthcare that embraces both scientific rigor and energetic healing.
During this enlightening conversation, Emma shares her remarkable journey working at St George's Hospital in London as a contracted Reiki practitioner through a charity called Full Circle. This groundbreaking program allows her to offer gentle energy healing to acutely unwell patients, from cancer sufferers to those requiring long-term ventilation. The results speak volumes – improved sleep, reduced pain, and moments of peace during challenging medical journeys.
What exactly is Reiki? Emma beautifully demystifies this practice by comparing it to other invisible energy systems we readily accept like Wi-Fi and gravity. "It's the life force energy that's all around us," she explains, noting that this ancient Japanese healing modality requires no religious beliefs and has no contraindications, making it accessible to anyone regardless of age or medical condition.
Emma's personal path to Reiki began intuitively during the demanding COVID period when, as an A&E nurse, she found herself naturally drawn to energy healing techniques. This innate connection eventually led her to formal training and certification, allowing her to navigate both worlds with confidence. Now, she's expanding into animal Reiki, recognizing that our pets are particularly receptive to vibrational energies.
What emerges most powerfully from Emma's story is the genuine bridge she's building between spiritual and scientific approaches to healing. As hospitals nationwide increasingly embrace complementary therapies, patients benefit from a more holistic approach that honors both ancient wisdom and modern medicine. Through Emma's pioneering work, we glimpse a future where healing comes not from choosing between these modalities, but from their thoughtful integration.
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so welcome everybody to another episode of balm to the soul, and today I have a new guest which I'm very excited about. I'm your host, natasha price, and I'm a solicitor, an author, an energy therapist and a podcaster. So, um, my guest today is emma roberts. So welcome, emma. Thank you very much for supporting Balm to the Soul.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Natasha. Thanks for having me on. It's lovely to be here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's a pleasure, and Emma and I met at a sort of spiritual online networking event, didn't we? We did, and Emma is a Reiki master teacher. She's a sound therapist and a holistic health and wellness coach, but you're also a registered nurse, aren't you?
Speaker 2:I am. Yes, I've been working in the NHS for 25 years, not always as a nurse, but in the last 10 years is my nursing career. But in the last 10 years is my nursing sort of career, just navigating all avenues of the NHS, from sort of reception, clinic, assistant, team leader, you know, all through those kind of avenues. And now I'm kind of back in the NHS not just as a nurse but also as a paid Reiki practitioner, which is really quite amazing.
Speaker 1:I love that. I love that there's that merge and these positions aren't that common, are they?
Speaker 2:No, they're not really common and you do get a lot of sort of volunteering processes for for Reiki and other holistic therapies in the NHS. But I it's really, it's really quite an amazing sort of journey, really trusting the process of the universe and just you know, reiki is a massive part of my life. It has been for many, many years and I really wanted to to sort of be part of a research team that studied the sort of scientific backgrounds of Reiki. And I was on a train journey back from York and I opened up the sort of the Reiki Fed magazine and on there was an advert to join the Reiki research team. So I applied, went through all of the you know the hoops that you do and joined the Reiki research team and in the first meeting they had basically said that one of the local London hospitals was crying out for CNHC-registered practitioners, reiki practitioners, and I was like, oh, that's really interesting.
Speaker 2:I trained at this hospital, I was born at this hospital, actually all at this hospital, actually um. So it's kind of um integrated with a sort of a charity that um sort of finds and employs these reiki practitioners and then we're contracted by the nhs to bring these complementary therapies into um the hospital to treat acutely, um acutely unwell adults and children, which is really lovely um. So it's a broad spectrum, um, they are very unwell, lots of long-term um sort of either long-term ventilation or cancers or, um you know, blood disorders, pain relief. Um, so really quite an amazing and blessed role to be in in the NHS so I can bring both my nursing and my Reiki into healthcare, which is fab.
Speaker 1:So what's the name of?
Speaker 2:the hospital St George's in London. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And is this a pilot scheme to sort of integrate Reiki practitioners through the hospital?
Speaker 2:So the, so this charity, has been there for about 10 years and there's um sort of like an organization which is um connecting Reiki with medicine and together. And I'll be completely honest, I'm not 100% sure how it all links together because, as far as I'm concerned, I'm there in my Reiki role and I will turn up and do my job and leave the admin to the people who know all about that. Yeah, so I know that the there's a connecting Reiki with medicine is very much based on the research Full Circle is the wonderful charity, that sort of bring us into the space. And St George's isn't the only hospital. There are hospitals up and down the country that are now incorporating this type of sort of bringing in the Reiki and the holistic practitioners into their space, to to offer the patients on their journey just something else outside of the tablets doctors, you know, um meetings, conversations, um and just to bring them something, to offer them a bit of peace just in that moment. And it's really quite, it's really quite wonderful.
Speaker 1:The feedback has been incredible and it's very well received, so, um yeah, I think that's really exciting that we that reiki and more of the holistic side is being integrated into the traditional side, because I I I firmly believe that we need all of it we need that, to have that overall picture and, like you say, it just offers people something slightly different. Or just start some thinking about why is this working? Why do I feel better, what you know, and that might trigger a whole journey in itself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does. When you sort of introduce yourself as a Reiki practitioner and you explain what Reiki is and who you're sort of here, sort of you know full circle, bring us in. I think it's really important to sort of like you know, obviously finances and the NHS is all very tight. So just to make sure that people do understand we're not paid by the NHS but we are contracted by the NHS. Our funding comes via something else.
Speaker 2:So yeah, when you sort of have moments with your patients, it's just really lovely to see that you can help them sleep, you know, just bring them that relaxation, that touch they've got so many regimes of going on and it's really wonderful, it really is, and you sort of you know, you kind of awaken them at the end of the treatment and you just say I'll come to and they, they, they look at you as if to say that's just what I needed. It was, um, and I just love that and I feel very, very honored to bring in something that I'm very passionate about, because obviously Reiki is a very big part of my life, as is being a nurse, and I just get to incorporate my understanding and my background of the clinical setting. But not be there in the nurse role, but be there in my Reiki practitioner role, it's just really lovely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it sounds really lovely, so let's just backtrack slightly. It sounds really lovely, so let's just backtrack slightly. So first of all, let's um just explain um to listeners how you would explain to them what reiki is okay, um.
Speaker 2:So reiki is traditionally known as a universal energy, um, and it's all around us. It's that life force, energy that's all around us and when you say that to somebody, they'll be like oh God, you know what is this. Well, I bring the concept back to our everyday energy systems that we use. You know our Wi-Fi and our gravity and our magnetics all of these energy systems that we use every day but we don't see. But we know they're there and we can feel them. And traditionally, reiki is an energy source that we use every day. But we don't see, but we know they're there and we can feel them. And traditionally, reiki is an energy source. It's the life sources all around us.
Speaker 2:It was founded by um. It's an ancient japanese healing modality to bring relaxation and calm into that person's space or the receiver's space. I mean, obviously we can reiki animals, water. There's lots of studies on reiki and water, um, all sorts of things. Yeah, reiki and water is. It is incredibly fascinating, um. So, in a nutshell, reiki is considered a very gentle energy healing practice that was founded in Japan. It has no religious connotations and there's no contraindications to it, so anyone can receive and benefit from Reiki.
Speaker 1:And I think, actually, when you are a practitioner, you realize that people take on as much as they can take on from the place. They are at that point, don't they? They either accept it with open arms and will feel the benefits, and sometimes some clients can block it completely and just, but that's their level of the space. They are at that point, isn't it?
Speaker 2:yeah, and I think, because it's energy, um, and it's sort of conscious and it's, you know, it works.
Speaker 2:On intentions, being open is really quite important because we are very good as humans telling ourselves what to believe, um, and you know, we're very good at sort of looking at the potential and the reality of certain situations and we're, you know, we do tell ourselves a few fibs at times and that blocks us. Like you said, it completely blocks us, um, but yeah, it's a very, it's a very gentle um, healing touch technique and the power of touch is something that we all use. You know, when we stop our toe or we bump our elbow, the first thing we do is we go to touch that area, um, you know, with our animals, if they're, they're unwell, or our children or anyone, we, you know anything, um, if we have the physiology of our hands, um, you know, touch is very, very important. It's very nurturing, it's very comforting and it's something we naturally go to to bring comfort. So, when you bring universal energy in, such as healing or any other healing modalities, um, we use the power of touch to bring that comfort lovely, um.
Speaker 1:And so when did you first become aware of Reiki? Obviously, you trained to be a nurse, and so you're in a very different sphere. So when did you sort of come to be conscious about all this energy stuff?
Speaker 2:So when I was at high school, which was quite a few decades ago now, my friend at high school's mum was always talking about reiki. She was undergoing a liver transplant and she truly, you know, really was passionate about her reiki treatment. Now, at the time it just stayed in my subconscious, didn't really think much of it, and then, when I I've always been energy focused, I've always been able to pick up the vibe in the room or suss things out. And then when I had my, my child, my daughter she's nearly 14 I would body scan myself and her, not knowing what I was doing but certain intentions for healing and promoting positivity and just being in a space where I was feeling physical kind of changes. I had no idea that this was Reiki. And then, when it was during the COVID times, I needed something for me and I found myself holding my sort of chakra points, just intuitively, and then I was like gosh, I really need to know what I'm doing. It feels right. So I did lots of study and then that's when the official Reiki journey took place and I think that being an A&E nurse during the COVID times was actually quite challenging and I think it would be comfort. It allowed me to navigate that um. You know we all have our, we all have our go-tos um, but I definitely think that Reiki practice. It just allowed me to be in a good space and to just accept what was coming my way, not to go into work with the fear of God knows what, but just to allow that to happen.
Speaker 2:And then the official journey happened. Reiki 1, reiki 2 and Reiki 3 was done online because obviously COVID shut down a lot of face-to-face work, yeah. And then I tried to register with the UK Reiki Fed but at the time they didn't recognize um online tuition. So I started the ball rolling all over again, had face-to-face um attunements and training and then, um, yeah, just registered with the, the association, and the, the reiki fed. They have actually changed that now, so they do recognize um online sort of tuition and attunements, which is, you know, it's all part of our evolution, isn't it natasha? We are evolving and learning and recognizing um and that does bring it in line with, obviously, distance healing is a very, very big practice that any energy healers have. So it's good, it's a very positive thing that the organizations that are credit trainers and practitioners are in line with the actual sort of modules that we learned yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1:And also, we were talking before and you mentioned it previously um, you're now looking to do animal reiki. It's something that you do on your, it's something that I do on my animals and you do on your animals, and because it has just as much benefit, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:it really does, and you know our animal kingdom are so receptive.
Speaker 2:You know they use vibrational energy anyway to communicate in the wild, um, so they're very you know, very receptive and I think in this day and age I know we briefly touched on it before it's very important to be sort of certified and accredited, for the public to recognize that you have a high standard of education and practice and and you're a safe person to to come to for that kind of um, sort of healing or treatment, not just for yourself but for your animal. So I'm navigating the animal reiki as we speak and, yeah, I'm really looking forward to it, and I find that even when I do my sort of sound healing practice at home, whether it's for myself or my daughter, my dog and my cats are there, they're straight there, they're immediate and obviously they can hear tones and sounds way better than we can. Yeah, but they are still involved in that space. I've got videos of my dog snoring his head off right next to a crystal bowl, as I'm, you know, going on yeah, they're very receptive and I think they are very good energy um interpreters.
Speaker 2:They understand sort of you know, you get your dog that doesn't like somebody and it doesn't matter what it is, they don't like that person and there's probably a good reason behind it. So they're very good at sort of picking up those, those energy levels. So, yes, animal reiki is definitely being navigated. I'm very, very excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, lovely, I've done Reiki on horses and dogs and it's just, it is amazing the reaction they have, especially horses. It's very quick, it's like they just need about 15 minutes. It's almost like they soak it up that much quicker. And the other thing I've had experience with which is amazing as well, it's plants and reiki. Yes, they plants absolutely love, but they are, again, you know, all to do with their own energy system. But I remember once my mother, who trained with me, had a hyacinth you know the hyacinth bulbs and they had grown very skew width and she reiki'd it every day and it stood up straight eventually, that's incredible we were fascinated.
Speaker 1:We just thought, wow, wow. So yeah, amazing, um, amazing, uh, mod, that's what I'm trying to say, and I think it's a lovely, lovely place for anybody to start, because it is so like you were saying, it's so gentle, it's, you know, non-invasive. So anybody starting on a spiritual path, reiki is a very good first step to sort of start understanding those principles and experiencing it as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you're absolutely right and it's so natural, it's so part of who we are working with. Energy in general. You know, whether you call it Reiki or you know if we think about our martial arts as well, you know that's all energy based. Our tai chi's, our qigongs, it's all about energy, breath and movement. You know these energy um modalities are across across you know the world um, and it's all based on that universal energy that we primarily and ancestrally knew intuitively how to use. Um, just bringing it back into our modern day world and just bringing that sense of silence and calm to our minds, because we're all so busy working and, you know, meeting the world's challenges that we sometimes forget to bring those moments of calm into our space. And it doesn't have to be for hours and hours. You can practice reiki even for a minute if it sets the intention to connect to reiki and just let it be in that space. It's, you know, we don't have to put hours of effort in, it's always with us, so we just tune in.
Speaker 1:Basically and once you are attuned to it, you can't actually switch it off, can you? So it's, it becomes part and parcel of you, I think yeah and I.
Speaker 1:I really like the fact that, um, I suppose traditional jobs like yourself as a nurse, myself more corporate as a lawyer, you know there's more and more people that are doing both and maybe I can't, you know, practice Reiki in the way that you can, which is amazing in my corporate life. But I think when people start using both, they do affect the Reiki affects people around them anyway, if that makes sense, and I've had a lot of people react, and I, to the fact that my energy is slightly different, you know, and that triggers their healing for them. So I've often thought about it's so lovely when I hear about somebody like you that's able to absolutely incorporate the two together. But I think the more and more that people study Reiki or study healing modalities and go about their jobs, they are actually shifting other people around them anyway, aren't they?
Speaker 2:absolutely, and it's actually, you know, you've absolutely hit the nail on the head in um, when I started to be very open, because obviously, you know, when we start energy we sort of whisper it, don't we? Oh, I'm just, I'm just doing this because I'm not quite sure of how people are going to respond. Yeah, then we become very comfortable in our space and we share that comfort with others and we bring the vibration up to us. And when I was very open, so when I worked quite substantively in ED, I was the well-being lead there and I really tried to bring healing modalities, even just comfort, into the space.
Speaker 2:But obviously they, they are restricted in time and money and it's, you know, it's not anyone's fault, it's just the way it is. And still, sort of being very proud of being a reiki practitioner, I found that a lot of my colleagues gravitated towards me anyway and I I do work with quite a few of my colleagues outside of the hospital format and they come to me as a private client or they'll meet me at the festivals. That I'll do. And you're absolutely right, your light, your vibration, it emits beyond yourself and it just allows the corporate world and your colleagues to feed off you in a very positive way and bring them some joy during their work day, because you know, work is hard, isn't it?
Speaker 1:that's yeah and they might not even quite understand why they might gravitate towards you or why they might feel calmer in your presence, or they might not even vocalize it, but you begin to send that, those ripples out which I think is is lovely.
Speaker 1:I've always tried to work out why I, you know, and I've given up. Now I'm just me. And if it ripples out to a very corporate sort of which I think is perhaps more competitive world, then that's a real positive, I think maybe, um, maybe it's got something to do with the quantum mechanics and you know the subatomic kind of levels of how we emit some sort of energy fields.
Speaker 2:You know we all have a bio energy field there's, you know, plants do. That's probably that why they um, you know they're so receptive to energy healing. Um, because we all emit this, you know, energy field, our heart in itself is an electric kind of pump, electricity pump that has a, you know and our brain emits a different pulse, doesn't it so?
Speaker 1:yeah, part of that electromagnetic sort of system so yeah and actually a lot of it is measured. The energy that we emit is then measured as light. I think I know there's been a lot of experiments around plants and the light that you can see around them in certain circumstances which I think is lovely. So, yeah, it's nice. I love the fact that more and more it's becoming more common and we are merging the two, and I think that's a very, very positive thing. I think we need both absolutely yeah, we definitely need both.
Speaker 2:I mean, evolution is part of our life cycle here as humans and we're evolving to create such magnificent medicine that is able to help and support patients on their journey but bringing in the calm and relaxation and the sort of, like you say, the balance of both is so beneficial to them that it's exactly how it's meant to be. It would be lovely if every hospital could have a sort of complementary therapist team attached to them in some way, shape or form, because it just it just brings something else to that patient's journey, that sort of healing journey yeah, so I think it's taking the energy part and including it into the equation, isn't it which?
Speaker 1:I think? If you don't have that, you're sort of missing a bit, and perhaps that helps with the whole holistic healing in some way.
Speaker 2:Indeed, yeah, and I think also there's a lot of science behind the raking complementary therapies, about bringing that touch therapy into a patient's journey is allowing them to find just that calm, that relaxation. Adrenaline in your body starts to just withdraw slightly, obviously, um, in accordance to how the body needs it, to which, when we have those um sort of hormones running around our bodies and all of the other things that are happening, we are naturally in a sort of inflammatory response. Inflammatory swelling impacts on our sort of pain receptors and all of those physical um elements of your body being in a space where it needs healing. They can all just calm just slightly. Um, there's some. There's lots of studies on sickle cell and pain relief. Um, there's there's. So I mean, obviously these are all very um open studies that people can look on the internet and find there's a recent one with cancers as well, isn't there and yeah, yeah, so it's um, there's so much out there that we probably need about another 10 podcasts through every single um healing modality and the research behind it.
Speaker 2:What is lovely being sort of scientifically binded as a nurse, but also, um, as a complementary therapist, as a reiki practitioner, being able to merge the two. So I'm bridging the spiritual and the scientific gap, um, for myself and and whoever comes into my space, and I'm so blessed to be in that situation, now into this, in this position where I can offer that. So, yeah, just really blessed. Natasha, really blessed.
Speaker 1:I think it's lovely. What was I going to say? I was going to say you were talking about the physical, and you know the hormones creating but also emotions. You know the fear and because people are going to be in quite a um, you know um heightened state of emotions, aren't they that also causes um adverse, um reactions in your body, doesn't it not? Being medical, you can tell yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:But even even not being medical, you know we do hold emotions in our physical bodies and we do sort of. You know we do. There's obviously we've got some practitioners that we know in our network who are somatic therapists. They know all about how to move the emotions in the body and there's a very good book called the Body Keeps the Score or knows the score. I can't remember quite how it is, but it's a very good sort of recognition that emotionally we do hold so much into our space and sometimes we don't realise it and people might think, oh God, really do we do that? But when we feel anxious we feel it in our heart space. When we feel fear, we feel it in our gut.
Speaker 2:So, all of these emotional kind of stroke, physical symptoms are all in our space, creating our protective self, and those hormones and those fight or flight mechanisms come into play. So, yeah, there's a lot more to it, isn't there?
Speaker 1:There is a lot more to it, but I think it's fascinating and I think I I'm very jealous of your being able to work. You know the way that you do. I think that's lovely and and um, it'd be lovely to see that become, you know, much more common, much more nationwide. You, I've seen, in the time that I've been doing Reiki, so many of schemes and um more Reiki in hospitals and hospices, and so it is increasing and I think that's absolutely lovely.
Speaker 2:I think it's just lovely that, like you say, it's it's increasing and it's becoming recognized that you know our patients in our on their health journeys. They need something that works alongside traditional medicine and because reiki doesn't have any contraindications, it means that anybody of any age can have it, and some of the children I work with are like four and six months. Um, you know all the way up until you know people in their 80s. So, um, whereas I mean reflexology and um, massage can sometimes be capped depending on someone's neutrophils or how, um you know how what they've had done. You know their physical body, because we're physically manipulating certain areas with reiki. It's a very gentle touch technique and it can also be hands-off as well. We just hover just slightly above the body. Um, and the cnhc recognized that there's no contraindication. So if anyone was ever worried, they could just do a bit of research and they'd have all of that information confirmed to them.
Speaker 1:I think one of my most fascinating sessions that I did was on a friend's husband and he just had back surgery and he was in a lot of pain and the next day he said to me I haven't slept that well since the operation, which is lovely. But I found it fascinating because what I feel in a Reiki session was so different when I felt around where he'd had the surgery. It's almost like his energy was like this hot ball just over the site where it had been disrupted and obviously was trying to recalibrate, if you like, obviously was trying to recalibrate, if you like, or it was so interesting, but it was so obvious that it was a great affirmation for me because I thought there is something happening you know, we might not always understand exactly what's happening.
Speaker 1:But we know and we can feel, and I could feel I could trace it with my hands I could feel that there'd been a massive disruption in his energy it's incredible, isn't it?
Speaker 2:and I just want to touch on what you said about sometimes we can't explain things, and I I honestly believe that sometimes we spend so much of our time trying to justify or receive answers or find answers that actually, if we just let things flow, which is all about the energy, um, you know, we don't need to always justify things or label things. We just let it be and allow ourselves that peace of just accepting and acknowledging that we don't have to find an answer, or just just allowing that experience to to to happen I have a very beautiful friend who, um she, she brought her husband along and he was actually a skeptic.
Speaker 2:He was my skeptic and he was like oh, this nonsense and I was just like, look, just this is what it is. I, you know, obviously gave him the information. He consented. And then I had about five or six treatments with him and he was like, right, I don't care what it is, I'm here. I'm here for my reiki, I love my reiki. I don't know what it is, I'm here, I love it. I'm here for my Reiki. I love my Reiki.
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is but I'm here for it and um, you know, sometimes you do find some of the the patients are a bit like what is this? And um, one of the chaps who, um, I saw oh, bless him, he was so sweet he did say like I don't know what it is, but I sleep when you come, even though you've got music playing, and I can feel you. I don't know what you're doing, I understand what you're telling me and I'm consenting to it.
Speaker 2:I can't explain it, but I love it yeah, like you say, it just brings confirmation into your space that, yeah, you know that touch therapy, that reiki treatment, that energy work is is all going to support these patients and these people that come in our and our animals and our plants and you know it's only ever for our highest good.
Speaker 1:There's nothing negative about it no, and I think now um correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking that there are about four million practitioners now in the uk. Oh really, wow, yeah, doing reiki. So I I'm not. One thing I often say to skeptics we can't all be wrong, we can't all be just the reason why we do this, because we can feel or see something happening.
Speaker 2:So, um, there's something going on there really is and it brings it back to our primal, ancestral kind of days. You know, in our community-led days we would know instinctively, you know, just by feeling, that our vibrational energy, where food was, where fear was, where we, you know we'd understand the weather system more. Yeah, we put bare feet in the ground. So you know, it's not anything new age, this is actually just reconnecting with the divine with the earth Absolutely, and with the ancients absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean it very much. I mean the Celts practiced Reiki, or they were very aware of frequency and being attuned to trees and you know.
Speaker 2:so, um, yeah, it's an ancient that we are remembering, really, rather than a new modality, and I think sometimes, the more I delve into reiki, it is, as we know, it called reiki, but I think there's lots of other energy practices that are all the same but they've just been given different names. But we're all using the same energy. It's just that we have been on a path, on a journey that we call it Reiki. It might be something else for someone else, martial arts might call it something else. It's all. It's all in choice.
Speaker 1:I'm actually. I'm glad you mentioned that, because I'm not actually convinced that all these different modalities that you can do which is amazing they are just utilizing the same energy and we're just bringing it in in different frequencies. Yeah, I believe.
Speaker 1:I, I did an experiment once with, um, you know, like aura photography, and I did a reiki. I did an experiment once with, you know, like aura photography, and I did a Reiki. I did it on my dad. Actually he was a guinea pig and it showed it up as lilac on the aura photography and the guy who was doing it was a spiritual healer and when he did it it showed up green and so it really showed that it was coming through on different frequencies. But they are, all you know, like a band of frequent. We have a band of frequencies that we can access and they just bring through slightly different frequencies, but all in a healing capacity that's so interesting.
Speaker 2:It kind of just coincides. Actually, what you were talking about that, natasha, is that you know we have different people come to us and gravitate to us because of our frequencies. So obviously in the corporate world we have people come to us for the frequency based. You know, our clients, our private work, comes to us and it's just that they found something in us that we can offer them. Somebody who was on a different uh bandwidth, maybe offering a different frequency, like the, the guy who was doing the camera work who was on he could see in green, maybe he needed someone that was going to, or he was going to, attract somebody else who was attracted to that frequency. So there's, it doesn't matter how many healers we have in the world or how many energy sort of practitioners or complementary therapists. If we're all radiating in our own positive light, those who vibrate with us will come towards us.
Speaker 1:Yes, definitely Fascinating. It's been a pleasure to talk to you, emma, it's been lovely. I love the way that you are incorporating both. I think that's fabulous and they. I hope it lasts all of this and increases, and you know lots of other hospitals follow suit. That would be amazing I think.
Speaker 2:I think it's definitely, um, I think it's definitely on the up. I think there's more hospitals that are becoming involved in this kind of work and there's lots of research behind it that's supportive. So, um, yeah, you know, we'll just trust the process absolutely go with the flow, as they say.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you so much for coming on and um, I will put emma's details up under the episode so that people can contact you if they would like to do so. Um so, thank you all for listening and um, I will speak to you all soon.