Rhythmic Riddles: How Two-Minute Sessions Can Transform Your Life with Angela Jean

Have you ever felt stuck in survival mode, knowing you have untapped potential but unable to access it? Angela, a self-described "mindset disruptor," reveals why 80% of people live with a sense of aimlessness and how to break free using an innovative approach to nervous system training.

Angela challenges conventional wisdom about personal transformation, explaining that we can't simply talk ourselves into feeling safe or creating a better life. "Your nervous system doesn't need another story," she asserts, "it needs a signal." Through her proprietary "Soul Sync" method, she demonstrates how rhythmic patterns, movement, music, and strategic language work together to bypass mental resistance and create lasting change.

What makes her approach revolutionary is its accessibility—just two minutes per hour can produce profound shifts. By integrating multiple senses simultaneously, her technique creates coherence and flow, leaving "shitty thoughts nowhere to hide." Rather than lengthy therapy sessions, these micro-resets signal safety to your body through direct experience, allowing you to gradually shift from survival mode into creativity and purpose.

The conversation explores how everyday fitness can be reimagined as mindset training, using emotional intensity as a catalyst for transformation. Angela shares powerful affirmations with intentionally chosen language—like "I am the architect of my life. I delete the role of victim and reclaim my power"—that create entirely new neural pathways.

For anyone feeling trapped in anxiety, unhealthy patterns, or a general sense of disconnection from purpose, this episode offers practical wisdom and concrete techniques to start clearing the emotional sludge that blocks clarity. As Angela puts it, "When you remove the emotional sludge, you have such clarity...and with clarity comes confidence." From that place, your divine purpose naturally reveals itself.

Try her two-minute reset techniques to experience how rhythmic patterns and movement can transform your relationship with yourself and the world. Share your experiences with us and subscribe for more conversations that balance practical wisdom with spiritual insight.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Meet Angela the Mindset Disruptor
• 7:01 Resetting the Nervous System
• 10:10 Soul Sync: Multisensory Mindset Training
• 16:12 Using Fitness to Harness Emotional Charge
• 23:09 Rhythmic Affirmations and Intentional Language
• 27:58 Finding Clarity and Divine Purpose
• 32:59 Breaking Emotional Loops and Closing Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:30

so welcome everybody to another episode of balm to the soul, and I am your host, natasha joy price, and I'm a lawyer, I'm an author, I'm an energy therapist and I'm a podcaster. And this session, this episode, we've got a new guest which I'm really excited to introduce you to, and that is angela. So welcome, angela. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure. It's always lovely to have a different viewpoint on the podcast. So, angela is a mindset disruptor. That's what we decided your term would be, wouldn't it? So explain to us what a mindset disruptor is about.

Speaker 2: 3:19

How that came to be is I've always been very anti-therapy. I believe in mindset training, I believe we are who we train to be and I believe we're training in the background all the time. And I just really feel that we're at a point in the world where 80% of people are living with a sense of aimlessness, and not because they lack potential, but because their nervous systems are stuck in survival, and this is not something that AI can fix. Obviously, this is like a real human problem that we need to deal with or we're going to sink deeper into a hole of depression and anxiety, and a lot of people think they can talk their way into feeling safe, they can talk their way into a better life, but purpose reveals itself through momentum. You know, it's because action clears the fog that thinking alone cannot.

Speaker 2: 4:02

Yeah, and that's why I really started working with multi sensory modalities based on rhythmic patterns.

Speaker 1: 4:07

That's how I discovered mindset training and really that that captured me yes, so your sessions in order to do that, in order to you have somebody come to you which is who is in permanent sort of fight or flight mode, um, and to re help them reset. What do you do? What? How do you? How would you address that to begin with?

Speaker 2: 4:33

Well, first thing I want to address is that I think majority of the world is all stuck in fight or flight. Yeah, because until you reset your nervous system, you will be stuck in survival and your nervous system, like I said, does not need another story, it needs a signal. If someone comes to me, the very first thing I start working on is resetting the nervous system, you know, and this has to be done through movement, like I said, there's a signal. We do foundational nervous system training because safety has to be felt right Anytime you experience fight or flight, and this happens all day long, this happens weekly, this can happen hourly. If you do not signal to your body through movement, through breath, through connection, that whatever just happened, you did not die, you are safe, you are safe in your body, you are okay, but you have to do this through a signal.

Speaker 2: 5:22

Like I said through a story, you stay locked up. Yes, none of us are doing this. We have been locked up since childhood. This is why everyone is stuck fighting. They're sorry, I'm sorry. This is why everyone's stuck fighting. They're sorry, I'm sorry. This is why everyone's stuck in fight or flight. We can't move towards our goal because we're so fear-based, because our body is stuck in survival. All it cares about is keeping us alive. That's why women are struggling to get pregnant. You know, if you're dealing with infertility, that procreation is not on the top of the list. When it comes to survival, your goals, your dreams nope, not on the top of the list.

Speaker 1: 5:53

yeah, think you know yeah, that's absolutely true, especially with the pregnancies, because you know, it's often the case where people go right, I give up, and they completely relax, and they completely, and that's when they fall pregnant and it just shows that that, like you say, that level of anxiety is just stuck there it's a vice, it's a complete vice.

Speaker 2: 6:16

Your body does not feel safe and when you give up, it's a surrender, right, yeah? So everything releases its grip, and that's when flow happens, you know, and that's when everything feels itself and that can be a bit scary, can't it?

Speaker 1: 6:30

That feeling for people like you know, because the fight or flight becomes their norm. Like you say, everybody's stuck in it. So that feeling is your normal. So to change it, to change even though it's for your, you know, your best, your highest best. It feels strange to do that. So it's not a a quick fix, it's something that you've got to work at, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 6:56

yeah, 1000, yeah, and it's interesting when you say that it becomes your normal. Baseline is also why so many people will say they want a healthy relationship, but they always will move towards toxic, because that's their normal they feel comfortable, even though they know that it's not good.

Speaker 1: 7:14

Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 2: 7:15

I say therapy, therapy, insight without nervous system change is just intellectual entertainment yes, absolutely so.

Speaker 1: 7:24

Let's talk about um. So you do soul sync sessions, don't you? Which is using that music and that movement to reset the nervous system. So what's that all about? Is that something that you have sort of devised to help your clients?

Speaker 2: 7:42

I have. It's my proprietary method. It's multi-sensory mindset training. The way it works is the more senses that you add when you're trying to transform whatever you're struggling with, the more access points you have, the deeper the rewiring. It's actually a faster, more effective way for you know to reach any type of transformation. Because when you see something, you're anchoring it on a visual level. You say something, you're anchoring it. You move your body, you're anchoring it into your body, you write it, you're anchoring it on a visual level. You say something, you're anchoring it. You move your body, you're anchoring it into your body, you write it, you're anchoring it from all different multisensory training.

Speaker 2: 8:18

So the emotional noise is given a structured path. Let me rephrase this Rhythm creates certainty and rhythm is predictable, so that signals safety. So there's complete coherence. When there's complete coherence, there is flow. Right, your right, your left, mind are not challenging each other. Everything is moving in the same direction. So if I say an affirmation and then I move with it and then I breathe with it, everything's in flow, everything's moving in the same direction.

Speaker 1: 8:56

So there's no resistance, so it's very the subconscious mind is very receptive to the change yeah, and I suppose when you're doing that as well, it's almost like because you're, you must be concentrating on doing what you're doing, it's almost like your conscious mind can be put on hold and a thousand percent yeah, and your subconscious can come forward and, like you say, reset what it needs to do.

Speaker 2: 9:23

That's the biggest obstacle is um, bypassing the conscious mind's defenses. That's why a lot of affirmations actually don't work, because it creates cognitive dissonance. If you don't feel loved, if you don't feel wealthy and you're saying I'm rich, I'm loved, you're actually creating more harm than good because you don't feel that's the discount I'm talking about. You don't feel love, you don't feel wealthy, so it creates more harm than good. You actually feel like shittier about yourself. Versus the way I have formatted my affirmations they're essentially rhythmic riddles and the way I strategically choose my words, they bypass the mind's defenses. They literally work as a signal to what needs to be transformed. So if I'm dealing with someone that's very fear-based, say something like faith is the only armor I need, it's just the way I frame my words. It bypasses the mind defenses. You're focusing on the path you want to create Right.

Speaker 1: 10:20

That's so interesting, and I like the fact that you use multi-sensory. Like you say, use it all together. That's really interesting that it's so much more effective when you do that.

Speaker 2: 10:32

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 10:33

Fascinating. That's really good. I's so much more effective when you do that. Yeah, yeah fascinating.

Speaker 2: 10:35

That's really. I always say you're, I always say you're hitting it from every angle, so your shitty thoughts have nowhere to hide. You literally flush it out of your body. Also, when you're, when you're attacking it from different multi-set, like some people learn by reading, some people read, learn by hearing, you know. So it basically allows you to absorb and learn, no matter which way, no matter who you are. If you're someone likes to read, listen, move, whatever works for you. So you're anchoring it from all levels. Yeah, more way to change. And what it actually is doing is creating a state of being. When you are feeding your mind rhythmic affirmations, you're journaling about the same thing. You're moving, you're training your body, you are creating a state of being so you feel it's like embodiment.

Speaker 1: 11:18

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:18

You know what I mean? It's embodiment. And they always say, like you have to sit down with intention. Who do you want to be? Who do you have to become to get the life that you desire? You know Judah spends on all of them. They say you feel like that person, talk like that person, walk like that person. But it's really hard to understand how to do that because he doesn't really give you a clear path on how to do that. So this allows you to embody confidence, embody love, embody faith, embody abundance, and then it just guides you. You start to become the embodiment of what you are training.

Speaker 1: 11:51

And when you say, you start to become, I mean, do people have one session or do they have numerous sessions? You know, or does it really just depend on the person?

Speaker 2: 12:05

I believe in hourly micro-resets. That's why I say all my sessions are two minutes. Two minute sessions will unlock what hours of talking can't. Therapy talks, rhythm transforms. You know what I see? I say you are trained to be. We use the body to train the mind. It anchors a new state of being. My programs are to be in every hour for two minutes. Two minutes of focused intention is way more powerful than sitting for 15, 30 minutes or an hour. I think that's what a lot of people do too, is they? They make their goal too big and then they get defeated because they didn't accomplish it.

Speaker 1: 12:40

And then it sets them even further. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:44

Small and build.

Speaker 1: 12:45

Yeah, excellent. And so and how I mean do you just say to people just carry on doing that two hours every hour until you start to feel better, until you start to feel a physical change, an emotional change?

Speaker 2: 13:01

Many people have asked me how do I know it's working? So the way my programs work, they're 30 day programs. They start with a rhythmic affirmation After you're done doing the two minute session, there's a digital journal where you you fill in the box for the day, you write exactly what you were just saying, and then there's a daily tracker. You check it off Right and how you know it's working. Let's say you're focused on love. How you know it's working. When you start to think about love, when you're around your friends having a conversation about relationships or something comes up all of a sudden you just think and feel differently because it's changing the way you process information. It's changing the way you interpret information, because you've taken your focus off the shitty thought. It's like the scale of polarity. It's like just focus on what you want. They say that all the time. It's a lot easier said than done, but this is a way to train your mind to focus on what you want. Focus on the possibility.

Speaker 1: 13:53

Yeah, train your mind to be positive, to focus on a positive outcome rather than let it go off.

Speaker 2: 14:00

Like many people, only see problems. You know, we scan the environment. We look for problems. We scan the environment. We know exactly why it's not going to work. If you ask someone, tell me 10 reasons why you don't want to be in a relationship and then tell me, tell me why you want to be in a relationship. Why they don't will be like why they do. It'll take them a while.

Speaker 1: 14:20

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:21

Not because they don't inherit, they don't, they don't know is because they have so many layers of life that they have piled on, like I said, living in fight or flight, all the stories that they keep telling and feeding their minds.

Speaker 1: 14:33

They can't even find the truth, which is we are all you know and often people will say they want to be in a relationship, but actually when you start digging down and stripping back those layers, they don't really. There's a lot of fear there's. There's things they have to reset first, like you say, and that's probably why they come to you. But they often, often, have that mind. Of course I want to be in a relationship, but actually they can have beliefs that say no, I don't really want to do that.

Speaker 2: 15:01

So Well, the minute they move towards a relationship, if anything happens, that fear yanks them right back. That story yanks them right back, that memory yanks them right back and they're like yeah, so you could. Like I say, you can't talk your way into anything. You can't talk the system into feeling safe, you can't talk yourself into a better life. It has to be felt, it has to be embodied.

Speaker 1: 15:21

Yes, no, you're absolutely right, and how absolutely right and how you know it's working. I always say this to my clients often after an energy session. You know people will react to you differently. You know, maybe somebody who was always never said hello will start smiling at you and you think, oh what, what's up with them today?

Speaker 2: 15:38

but it's because they're just tapping into something different so your energy walks into the room before you do. I always say that your energy, you are felt before you are heard. Yes, definitely. And like you say, with the energy massage, um, clearing the emotional sludge from your vessel which is your body, decides your vibration, decides your vibe, you know what I mean people always say we had a good vibe. That place had a good vibe. We've been saying it forever but we're not really listening to what we're saying.

Speaker 1: 16:09

No, like we inherently know that we are vibrational vessels and when we're in a high vibration, you can feel it, can't you? You can absolutely feel it. When you're in the presence of somebody in a high vibration, you can absolutely feel it. Yeah, that's what we're trying to do Get rid of the low vibrational sludge, like you say.

Speaker 2: 16:30

Yeah, and like I said again, these are two minute sessions every morning. Like meridian point massage takes two minutes. Yeah, amazing intention. It's like you literally have to put yourself through a car wash every morning yourself to the car wash every morning before you walk out your door and see how people respond to you differently, because your energy walks into the room before you do 1000 and actually it's funny.

Speaker 1: 16:53

You should say that because I do all of my sort of morning routine in the shower. Yeah, because nobody's talking to you. It's a. It's a just a space where you're doing something automatically and you focus on just doing those. Like you say, you do two minutes, I probably do about five and I just. You know so when you get it, make it a habit of your life and it's easy, it's a lifestyle.

Speaker 2: 17:19

It's a lifestyle and it has to be done. There's no end to it. It's a lifestyle because we're living in a modern world. It moves very fast. We're getting sucker punched on the daily, our hearts broken, jobs lost, like it's a constant. Yeah, it's a constant lifestyle. That has to happen. You have to, like you say, move the emotional sludge.

Speaker 1: 17:38

Yeah, and yeah, and you have to work on your energy every day, don't you? It's part of your holistic health, just like you clean your teeth, just like you know you take supplements or exercise. You have got to do something on your energy because otherwise you're missing part of who you are basically, yeah, yeah that's why I say it's not.

Speaker 2: 17:59

It's like it's that way we we forgot who we were. It's about remembering who we are right. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 18:04

We were programmed to be told what we are yeah, before, like you talked about, we got into this society where we're all in fight and flight, like you say, yeah, trying to survive rather than thriving, which is what we need to be doing yes, 1000 so you're, you have this month-long course, but do you do individual sessions for people or do they just? They not just, but they come to you for a month-long um training, if you like, mindset training.

Speaker 2: 18:38

I do. I do do training. My training is really different, though, because it's very, it's very, uh, fitness based. Right, because we, we will. I do nervous system resets, which those are obviously more calming, but I really like to teach people how to emotionally calibrate and how to harness the emotional charge, and I do that through fitness. I use fitness training to activate the body and get it really stressed out so I can show them how to calm the system, how to use my rhythmic affirmations, because when you're in a state of emotional charge, studies have shown that the brain is most reprogrammable in a state of emotional intensity.

Speaker 1: 19:18

Right, that's really interesting actually, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 19:22

Oh yeah, because many people, when we have that emotional charge, we get road rage. We just want to stuff it down. To me, that is the most powerful time to match that frequency. A lot of people try to just calm down. No, match the frequency, harness that psycho cybernetic loop and transform it. You know, and I really showed them, I showed them how to do that in my session. So it's super fun, like I have a good time okay, you do so.

Speaker 1: 20:44

How did you come to this? Is that because you, you are very into fitness? You experience this, you know yourself. How did I come to which part? Which part to use fitness, to use movement, to use, um, you know, in your training?

Speaker 2: 21:01

you know, I was obviously my guinea pig. I'm fixing myself. Yeah, throughout my life I became my own guinea pig and that was the only way I could feel to recreate my anger issues, my stress issues, my anxiety issues like was you know fitness to really charge the body and use the breath, use movement to calm myself. I would practice doing that because I used to have extreme anger issues. So I used my body to train the mind. That's one of my biggest things. I say we use the body to train the mind.

Speaker 1: 21:31

Yeah, I have a friend who she always she says to me I go for a run because that actually keeps her anxiety at bay. So it's sort of like you, you say in in a way, it helps. It helps her calm down. It's getting her body, using her body in order to calm her nervous system basically yeah, because running is a rhythmic trance.

Speaker 2: 21:56

Yeah, what is that doing? That's signaling safety to your nervous system.

Speaker 1: 21:59

That's signaling safety to your entire vessel yeah, yeah, they make perfect sense when you say it, but it's not many people that do that, that you know.

Speaker 2: 22:08

And that's why I like to really reframe like we're not. This is not fitness, this is mindset training. Yeah, actually it would be a really great way to get people into the gym and working on their fitness. It's like this isn't fitness. This is mindset training. You're using your body to train the mind.

Speaker 1: 22:22

Yes, yeah, interesting, and we were talking when we were talking before, that people have got to be. You can't sort of explain this to people or get people into this space unless they're ready to receive it, can you? You know, obviously people wouldn't come to you if they're not ready to receive it, but they've got to be in a space where they they.

Speaker 2: 22:47

They are open to healing, open to something new, open to resetting their mindset or taking on these concepts yeah, yeah, I say the moment you point the finger, you hand over your, your authority, and you are ready to be accountable for your life not being how you want it to be, for being accountable for choosing that boyfriend, that job, that friend that screwed you over. You'll remain stuck. So until someone is ready, they won't seek the answers. You know, I mean, that's our individual soul journey.

Speaker 1: 23:26

Yeah, accountability is a doorway until they, like you say, until they take responsibility for their choices, for not everybody else externally is creating that situation.

Speaker 2: 23:38

Yeah, the responsibility is how you get free. Yeah, one thousand percent. If you're waiting for someone to apologize you, if you're waiting for someone to heal your broken heart, you're going to be waiting forever. You're handing for your power. You're handing over your life, you know, to somebody else. So excellent.

Speaker 1: 23:56

So, um sorry, my dogs are going mad in the background. Hopefully you can't hear them, but they're having a play fight. We're talking about calming down guys. Um, so talk to us about some of the affirmations that you use, because I'm really quite interested in how you phrase them and and you know, I was reading on your website and there was one I am the architect of my life. I like that. That's a powerful one. In other words, I take responsibility, like we were just saying.

Speaker 2: 24:28

Exactly, I'm responsible for whatever's around me, whatever's going on yeah, so that's one of the rhythmic patterns, like you feed your mind that every single day. As much as you want, you could do the two-minute session, but I'm the architect of my life. I delete the role of victim and reclaim my power. And let me tell you that word, the words I choose are very intentional. I don't say I release the role of victim. That's what you would think, right? I release this. When you use the word release, for me that is claiming ownership, that you, you were a victim. You are a victim. I'm victim. I'm releasing this. No, no, no, you never were. You delete that role because someone programmed that, programmed that into you. So I'm very intentional with my words. You delete and when you delete it, it's like it's more empowering. You're harnessing that power. You know you're sitting in creator mode. Yeah, I don't need that role.

Speaker 1: 25:21

I did not choose that role yeah, yes, and you reclaim your power, you reclaim your power, yeah that's very powerful.

Speaker 2: 25:29

All those three sentences are very powerful for people to say yeah, and the music that I choose is always very powerful as well, like based on what I'm working with, versus love, versus money, versus empowerment. Yes, audios change. The movements change. They'll be softer, they'll be more aggressive. Yeah, we tap certain meridian points, like everything um is very scientifically based, so it might seem like woo-woo.

Speaker 1: 26:03

Oh no, I don't think any of this is woo-woo. I'm forever talking about energy and how we all need to work on it, so I think it's amazing. I think it's really important that we should all be doing this in some way. Whatever resonates with you and I think fitness and music is a great way, because everybody resonates with music resonates with you, and I think fitness and music is a great way, because everybody resonates with music.

Speaker 2: 26:24

Everybody has some music that they really relate to yeah, and you, like I said, your body, your mind, it doesn't need another story, it needs a signal, it needs to be felt period. Music does that movement, does that rhythm, does that breath does that? Are the healers. We have healing outside of ourselves. We have complicated healing. We enable to know how to do this. We just choose to complicate things, we choose to make healing hard. We think if we're not suffering, we don't have to go somewhere, we're not paying a fortune. There's no way this is going to work.

Speaker 1: 26:59

No, and actually it's very simple, really, isn't it? Simple principles, do it every day. Get into a habit of working on your energy cleaning, resetting your nervous system like you talk about removing blocks and and just improving your mindset yeah, because yeah, you become who you train to be yeah, what? Who do you have to be Responsibility?

Speaker 2: 27:25

Who do you have to be, who do you have to become to get the life that you desire? And oftentimes it's a better version of yourself and it's like it's not. It's not that that version of you doesn't exist, no, it's peeling back the layers.

Speaker 1: 27:35

Yeah, and then once you reach that point and you reach, or you start moving towards we never reach it, do we? You start moving towards, then you open yourself to completely different opportunities, different people coming into your life. Things just shift, don't they?

Speaker 2: 27:52

Oh, yes, yes, when you start clearing the emotional sludge, you move, you have such clarity is what happens. You know what I mean. When you remove the emotional sludge, you have clarity and with clarity becomes confidence. Cause you're, when you're clear on what you want to do, you're confident about it because you can see it, you can feel it and then your purpose reveals itself. You know, like I said in the beginning, 80% of people are living a sense of aimlessness. They have jobs, they hate their relationships, they hate. That's why they're partying, they're shopping, they're doing whatever, because they're trying to feel a sense of purposeness. And by just adding on more noise you have to clear the noise.

Speaker 1: 28:36

Purpose is a felt experience, yeah, your divine purpose, what you're here to do, and we're all here to do something, yeah, so, um, yeah, if you can tap into that and divine self-expression as well, that's something that I often ask for. You know how? How am I going to? You've obviously found your space and this is what you, um, are helping people with. But if people, people want to move into something like that, it's about finding that divine purpose and self-expression, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 29:11

And by clearing all of that and getting clarity, yeah, and when I say that I don't believe in therapy, it's not that the past is meant to be ignored, but it's meant to be decoded. Yes, you gather the data, you get the lesson and then you stop looping. There's one main question If you are ruminating about a heartbreak, someone that betrayed you, the only thing I ever ask myself is what role did I play in this and why did I allow it? That is entry point. Yeah, there until the answer reveals itself, because that is the entry point to the healing that will lead to your expansion. That will reveal your purpose why did I do?

Speaker 2: 29:53

this and it always tracks back to childhood.

Speaker 1: 29:55

Always, there's always an imprint yeah, and I always say if you get the lesson, the situation just dissipates. Yes, you understand why that happened. You're thankful it didn't happen to you. It happened because of you and your energy. If you understand where that's come from, it just disappears.

Speaker 2: 30:16

I think it's the soul's fight to become whole again. Yeah, why did you let the like when you go into the pain point? You know, why did you let the like like when you go into the pain point and you ask why did you allow this? Because I lack self love? Yeah, because XYZ. Okay, great, let's start there.

Speaker 1: 30:32

Yeah, and once you get that, you don't have to keep repeating it. It doesn't keep repeating. You've learned that lesson. Yeah, it stops looping. Yeah, definitely. You might have other lessons to learn. Okay, it's non-stop, but lessons are non-stop it is.

Speaker 1: 30:51

I started doing um energy training 20 odd years ago and I I never thought I had an issue and I am still clearing stuff. So it really is is a process. It's like that spiral and you keep coming back to the same thing, but a different level, a different lesson, somehow. But all fascinating. I find it fascinating.

Speaker 2: 31:14

The energy is always there. Like I always say, the energy is always there, waiting to be transformed.

Speaker 1: 31:18

Yeah, definitely arms.

Speaker 2: 31:19

Yeah, and you know, if it's, if you're confused, if you don't have clarity, if you're insecure, anxious, depression, your vessel is blocked or lethargic, yeah you start clearing. You start clearing the emotional sludge, doing the meridian point massages and you will start feeling the flow.

Speaker 1: 31:37

Yeah, absolutely excellent, angela. I've really enjoyed talking to you. Thank you so much. I might have to start doing a bit of affirmations and music. I feel it feel the urge coming on to try that. So I will put all your details up, um, under the episode so people would like to get in contact with um with you. Then they can do so. But thank you, thank you so much for coming on. I've really enjoyed talking to you and you know sort of hearing things from a slightly different tangent. I like hearing other people's views. We're all working towards the same thing, but it's nice to see people come at it a slightly different way.

Speaker 2: 32:24

Yeah, it's just about innovating what we already know, right like kind of making it our own. Yeah yeah, and make it, make it effective and understandable for other people as well yeah, I just wanted to be modern, attainable, enjoyable, so that people would actually do it, you know, and also, yeah, and have fun at the same time. Yes, because when the mind is entertained, it is very receptive to change, believe it or not, because the defenses are down yeah, well, I can see you have fun with it and that's fabulous.

Speaker 1: 32:54

So thank you for coming on. Thank you for supporting Balm to the Soul. It's been really lovely to speak to you. Thank you, natasha. So, um, thank you for joining us everybody, and if you've enjoyed listening to angela and I, you can like or you can even join, uh, subscribe to balm to the soul and I will speak to you all again soon.