The Dynamic Force of Creation: Exploring Divine Energy with Diana Kasperska

What if the energy you're seeking isn't just within you, but is the very fabric of creation itself? 

Diana Kasperska, spiritual mentor and conduit for Kundalini transmission, shatters common misconceptions about this powerful energy in our conversation. Rather than simply being an energy stored at the base of your spine waiting to be awakened, Diana reveals Kundalini as "the dynamic force of creation" – the active principle of divinity that permeates all existence.

We explore the fascinating physical manifestations that often occur during energy work – those spontaneous movements that might look strange but serve a profound purpose. Diana draws a brilliant parallel to how animals naturally shake off stress after danger, explaining how these movements represent our nervous system finally releasing stored trauma and returning to a natural state of balance. This perspective transforms what might seem like unusual reactions into beautiful examples of the body's innate healing intelligence.

The conversation delves into Diana's approach to energy transmission, which flows from top to bottom rather than the traditional yogic bottom-to-top method. This distinction emphasizes surrender over effort – "It's not about our doing, but about opening up, surrendering to it, letting this happen and witnessing it." Through silent sitting practices and consistent energy work, she guides people toward taking greater responsibility for their spiritual journey while building a sustainable connection to these higher frequencies.

Perhaps most compelling is Diana's description of the ultimate outcome of this work: achieving unshakable inner peace regardless of external circumstances. Rather than happiness that depends on favorable conditions, this practice leads to a profound equilibrium that represents true freedom from the reactive patterns that typically govern our experience.

Whether you're curious about Kundalini energy, seeking to expand your consciousness, or simply longing for deeper peace, this conversation offers illuminating insights into the transformative potential of energy work. Connect with Diana through the contact information below to experience her online sessions, one-to-one work, or transformative retreats in sacred spaces like the Himalayas.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Diana Kasperska
• 5:55 What is Kundalini Energy?
• 10:12 Physical Manifestations and Body Movements
• 16:34 Everyday Practice and Silent Sitting
• 21:51 Personal Transformations and Experiences
• 29:00 Finding Peace Despite External Conditions
• 33:43 Online Sessions and Worldwide Retreats

Transcript

Speaker 1: 2:30

so welcome everybody to another episode of balm to the soul. I'm your host, natasha joy price, and I'm a lawyer, an energy therapist, an author and, of course, a podcaster. And um, today we've got a lovely new guest, diana kasperska. So welcome, diana. Thank you so much for supporting balm to the soul, thank you for having me here, natasha.

Speaker 1: 2:59

Oh, it's a pleasure Now. We met a few years ago, actually, didn't we? Yes, we did. I was very drawn to your energy work, so we'll talk about that. So Diana is a spiritual mentor and she's a conduit for kundalini transmission and consciousness expansion. That's quite hard to say all of that, but very exciting, so lovely to have you here. So first of all, just for the listeners, if people don't really understand what is Kundalini energy, Sure?

Speaker 2: 3:26

Yeah, that's a very good question because there's lots of misunderstanding on what is Kundalini. A lot of people are referring to Kundalini as some kind of energy that's passing through your spine, maybe some sensation, and there is a lot of talks going on right now about Kundalini awakening, and I think this is a very limited way of seeing what Kundalini is, because when we think about it, kundalini is the dynamic force of creation. She's divinity, she's divine. So she's much larger phenomena than just the energy in your spine. Yeah, when we are coming to those kind of sessions, we're connecting with that higher principle. We wanted to move to the system to guide us to. Actually, you know, we evolving through that process when this energy start moving through our system. So I see it as something much larger than just the energy.

Speaker 1: 4:20

That we have stored in us. Yes, exactly, it's an outside energy.

Speaker 2: 4:25

Yes, and at the end of the day, all the creation is made of this energy. It's everywhere. It's that active phase of divine.

Speaker 1: 4:33

Yeah, and the fact that we are actually connected to it is a bit where the consciousness expansion comes in. Isn't it Exactly Because you begin to think of things in a very different way that we are constantly connected to this source of energy, if you like?

Speaker 2: 4:51

Exactly that's how I see it. First we are experiencing as an energy or something that is start moving or activated inside of us or awaken whatever words we want to use it here. Then we are experiencing it on a daily basis. That is not just something that comes randomly during the session or you know, some new experience, new sensation, but something much deeper, as like a living process within yourself, and from that point we can start recognizing it, that this energy is actually not different than we are, that we are that energy. But, of course, this is a long process of a expansion of your consciousness and and a deep change yeah, on the on the many, many levels yes, it's bound to be if you've got this energy flowing through you.

Speaker 1: 5:37

Presumably, the energy sometimes uses the spine as a conduit and perhaps where it's come from Because you often hear about people talking about kundalini energy that we like a snake, like you, store it, and it sits Sure, sure that we like a snake, like you store it, and it sits, sure, sure, unactive in your base chakra until you initiate that connection yes, and and I see that as there are two processes one is that when the energy is moving from bottom to top, that's that yogic approach, when we are working with certain practices and what I do is a very, it's a different approach as a top to bottom.

Speaker 2: 6:15

So we are working with the energy that comes to us. It's like a downforce of energy, it's a transmission For me. I love to talk about it as a grace, but if that works too much, it can just be energy that moving through the system, but it's a higher principle. So therefore, it's not about our doing, but it's a higher principle. So therefore they it's not about our doing, but it's about opening up, surrendering to it, letting this happen and witness it.

Speaker 1: 6:39

So would you? Would you talk about it as being a frequency? By all means, we can see that there's a frequency. Yes, yeah, because that's you know, in energy work, you, everything has a different frequency. It's just about tuning into that frequency. So, in the same way, if we set our intention to connect to this divine source, energy, that's, that's how we start that connection.

Speaker 2: 7:06

Yes, is that being in alignment with it? Yeah, being in alignment with it is not something external, but something that we're tuning in, uh, you know, calibrating or being open for this flow to happen yeah, so, yeah, so, being really open to it.

Speaker 1: 7:21

So a lot of the time as well, talk to me about what happens to people when the energy flows through them, because a lot of the time you see people moving around quite a lot. You know it's almost like they ripple in a way. You know it's like and it's the way presumably they are interpreting the flow of energy, if you like yes, yes.

Speaker 2: 7:43

so yeah, that kind of work brings lots of phenomena. There's lots of experiencing the experiences that happening during the session and of course they're very intriguing and interesting and you know we are being inspired by them. But this is just that one part of the process. I think it's even more important to focus about unfolding after what we experience. But if we're really talking about what is happening or what might can happen during the session so there's all spectrum and some of those involve those spontaneous movements that lots of people are experiencing. So the energy start moving through the system and, how I see it on the energetic level, that it might reach to the area in your body through the energy channels that maybe there is some stagnancy, maybe there are some blockages, maybe there's something suppressed and when it wants to move through it, it often creates that manifestation of that physical movement.

Speaker 2: 9:39

right, so the body start moving, you know, and that's that's how the energy starts flowing more and more within your system. There is other thing, what we can even bring here, what I often talk about during the very first sessions, for people to understand why the body is moving. So you know the way and I'm giving very simple example here. For example, some kind of animal, such as antelope, after just escape to safety, after being chased by some kind of predator, and she just escaped to safety, the very first thing, what she does? She shake everything off, like I'm sure you saw it. Yes, there is that shape, what she's doing and everyone I'm sure many people can relate, if not everyone can relate to it. So what she actually is doing, she's self-regulating her nervous system so that stress, what was accumulated on the level on the body, is just being shaken off. But unfortunately, we were brought up this way and told by our parents do not, you know, act or do not behave that way, do not cry, you know, no time.

Speaker 2: 10:45

Yeah so we suppressed everything on the level of the body, so everything is sitting there and now, when this energy start moving, of course there's lots of purification happening. Therefore, the body starts shaking. This is self-regulation. This is how our nervous system coming back online to a very natural state.

Speaker 1: 11:06

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 11:06

And it's super beautiful to see that we can just find ourselves, you know, just breathing, just finding more space to be us.

Speaker 1: 11:15

Interesting. But not everybody has that effect, do they?

Speaker 2: 11:19

Some people just you know they don't have any movement they're just you know, accepting it and yes, because you see, we are very unique and we have a different baggage. Yes, everyone experiences different things. There's some people having more trauma, some people having less. So every process is very unique. And those movements often are kind of, especially when they're very chaotic at first, because then they can change and become very dance-like. When there's just energy moving and you're dancing and you kind of feeling the space, that's a different phase.

Speaker 2: 11:54

But at the beginning, when everything is so jerky, that's the release, that's some kind of trauma leaving the body. So those people who are not moving in that given moment, because maybe they will touch that material later on if they stay in love with the process, yes, some kind of shadow is there waiting, so maybe it's just not right now here available for them. That's where the body is moving and you know, at the end of the day, when we're looking about, when we're looking um into our lives, it's not just this life. We are not sure what we did last past life. If we want to bring that conversation, yes, so maybe somebody had already cleared a lot of it and this lifetime didn't have too much stored in the body. No, but there's a lot we can actually.

Speaker 1: 12:37

You know different we could look at it in a different way, but it's not always happening no, but, and afterwards, our people, and people get, during the energy flowing through them, emotional because of, perhaps, things that are clearing from this lifetime, past life, like you said, yes, you know all that is in our energy, isn't it? So it can be anything that starts coming up.

Speaker 2: 13:00

It can be tears, it can be, you know exactly yes, and you know, sometimes we're just feeling so joyful because we were not allowed to feel joy or we just didn't permit ourselves, you know. So sometimes it's not, it's not always about discomfort or something negative. Sometimes it's just to give yourself enough space to feel all right.

Speaker 1: 13:20

Yeah, and do some people just sort of you know, go off in a different space if you like, yeah, yeah. You mean like, just you know, they're still accepting the energy, but in their head or wherever, they're in a different place completely. They're in a place of just calm and peace and just a nice space.

Speaker 2: 13:42

Yes, yes, it's not always that dramatic. No, not always like that. Sometimes there is that very graduate, very beautiful step-by-step process and there is that growth, that very beautiful step-by-step process, and there is that growth that is connected to it. So, yeah, it's a very, very different journey for everyone. And and another thing is, you know, our, our willingness to commit to it, our openness where we at what we're ready to look at, because doing that kind of work, you know, letting energy move through us, is about knowing ourself on the deeper level. Yeah, it's not about something you know, it's about us facing us on the much, much, much deeper level.

Speaker 1: 14:21

We have to be ready to do that yes, and and if we're not ready on some level, it's not exactly yes, yes you're not given things we can't cope with, are we exactly?

Speaker 2: 14:31

and and you know there's a beauty in it huge and huge intelligence that things that are not meant to happen here they won't happen, no, so therefore we can relax and find more safety in it yeah nothing.

Speaker 1: 14:43

There's nothing to force no, and nothing to be frightened of either, is it? It's it. It is a very gentle flow. I mean, it can be powerful, but it's not. What's the word? It's not frightening, is it?

Speaker 2: 14:58

No, it's just. You know, at the end of the day you are just lying down or you are just sitting up. It's not that you are forced into something, you are just very much with yourself. It is true that within ourselves, there are parts of us that we are afraid of, but this is just our parts, and when we are ready to face them, that's all what it takes.

Speaker 1: 15:19

It's just an experience, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 15:21

you just have to come thinking, I'll just experience what happens, and yes yes yes, and then you know, like I'm I I'm really interested in people who are willing to make it as a living process, like who are ready to step into the process, yes, by week, month by month, with, not just with the sessions but with the everyday practice which is such a crucial part of it everyday meditation, everyday way of meeting energy, you know, conscious living with all of this creating such a huge shift and and really, really beauty, so much in it I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's something I talk about all the time having an energy management routine, a daily routine.

Speaker 1: 16:19

We have to keep checking in on our energy. We have to keep you know that has to be part of our whole holistic health.

Speaker 2: 16:26

Oh, yes, you see, because there is that idea. That is enough just to show up for the session, like you know, but then we are treating it as something like a spa meeting or which at the beginning is fine, but if we really want to do something or experience something different, we need to commit to it on the everyday basis.

Speaker 1: 16:47

Yeah, if we really want to shift something and evolve, then we do have to be doing that, don't we?

Speaker 2: 16:54

yes, and it doesn't mean that it means three hours a day and a very hard work. It does not mean and that's what we. We don't mean that, but it has to be consistent. There is that, you know, and when people experiencing longing, there is nothing will stop them, but they just want that. Yeah, they will really deeply commit to the process yes, which is lovely.

Speaker 1: 17:13

I think that's lovely. Um, talk to me as well, because you do um. You do silent sitting groups as well. Yes, so you sit in silence um. Yes, talk to us about that sure.

Speaker 2: 17:27

So I see the value in the sitting position, like there is something possible when we sit rather than we lying down.

Speaker 2: 17:34

Because my work, when I do it, working with Kundalini, especially at the beginning, I ask people to lie down, to relax as much as possible so they can receive, they can feel taken care of. But at some point it's nice when they will start feeling that they're growing up, taking a bit more responsibility of their process, because at the end of the day we need to take responsibility of our spiritual journey. So then we, then the sitting comes into it and energetically I definitely see potential in it and something that is not available on the, when the body is just in the horizontal position, yes, and then I offer those silent meditation as a way of practicing your connection. So I activate the feel and then you, by sitting in it, working and um, working on your connection with that energy, and there is a presence and there is a slightly different energy, some people recognizing it. It really helped them to expand their consciousness and perception, but for many it is a beautiful practice to keep practicing that connection to the energy.

Speaker 2: 18:47

So it's not just the experience, it's not just the holidays, and then we're coming back home and again being miserable. But we are practicing some kind of you know some kind of bridge. We're building a bridge, so it's not just the again next year, beautiful holidays and whenever we're going to go to Spain. Yeah, that's a very important part.

Speaker 1: 19:09

So we're learning to connect to that. Yes, and when people are doing that, that, are they having visuals sometimes, are they? Or is can they feel the energy flowing? Sure, so?

Speaker 2: 19:23

again very individual. Uh, you know, some people will still very much move, the body will still be releasing, there will be lots of purification going on until they will reach the point of that connection and they're just feeling the flow of the energy and it's kind of getting deeper. So it's very much where they're at.

Speaker 1: 19:40

Yeah, yeah, I like the idea of sitting actually because I find, working nine to five, I lie down and I just go in. It's almost like exhaustion, it's like permission to relax and I just go in. It's almost like exhaustion, it's like permission to relax and I just go into a complete state, whereas I think if I'm sitting it, I suppose you don't relax as much. But you have to. You can relax, but you have to hold yourself up. Yes, yes, you can't go to.

Speaker 2: 20:09

Yes, exactly, it's an in-between pose, it's something between standing and lying down, so some kind of you know commitment is here. It's not as easy as just drift off. Yeah, we are just lying down, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 20:24

Yes, yeah, interesting, very interesting, I have to say. When I did some sessions with you I was very unsure Am I, am I going to feel anything? What's going to happen? And on the very first session I had a physical experience.

Speaker 1: 20:48

So I've had three children and I had an area on the back of my back that's big, so I don't know people listening it's like a satsuma size and it was numb and I think it was just, you know, having babies and bones and tendons shifting around.

Speaker 1: 21:07

And I had this numb spot, didn't hurt me, but it was numb and it felt strange and it vanished after the first session and I was very aware it was almost like an electric shock at some point and I thought something has shifted. And then when I had a feel of my back, it wasn't numb anymore and that's gone completely. It's never come back, that's never. And that was after session one and I thought, okay, I don't know what's going on here, but actually that's a good thing. Um, so I'm going to keep going and have a few more sessions, but it was quite. It was, it was strange, it's obviously unblocked, something obviously had a block in some sort of channel or meridian or something, and it was able to clear that, so for me that was a really, really positive affirmation that something was happening, basically, yes, it's wonderful when we have that experience.

Speaker 2: 22:05

Whatever the experience is, it's very inspiring. Yes, it's very inspiring to keep going, yeah, to show up, because then you're waiting for something else to happen, and what? What is else possible, yeah.

Speaker 1: 22:17

So it's very beautiful that it can work so quickly that that very first session can give us actually an experience, something that maybe we thought is just the idea yeah, and I think my guides think, or spirit thinks I'm a bit cynical, because they often give me experiences on session one, I think they think to show what we can do and then she'll come back to it.

Speaker 1: 22:43

So I often get it like my very first Reiki that set me off on a whole different path, because I had a weird experience in the very first session with you. I had an experience, but it's like sort of you know, it is that affirmation there's something going on. We might not understand it all, but there's something going on.

Speaker 2: 23:03

Exactly. This is not. The mind will never understand that phenomenon. It's a mystery. But once we are open to it, we can live it, we can experience.

Speaker 1: 23:13

It can change us and presumably, as people progress through this do, do you think their intuition is um heightened? Do you think they begin I mean they're having this expansion of consciousness, they're beginning to realize that actually we're very much energetic beings, we're all connected. You know what we see.

Speaker 2: 23:33

It's not always our reality um yeah, uh, by all means, intuition is a part that's getting very, very uh strong. Yeah, you know, like it's just how you witness life is changing, so you are just not, as you know, caught by surprises of life. It just makes sense. It just makes sense, and even going beyond that, you know when you really start shifting, when your identity starts shifting, when things really, when that separation will be filled, it starts dissolving. That's where the shifts in the consciousness start happening. So we are starting. We are living on the very, very different, in a very, very different reality.

Speaker 1: 24:19

Yes, which is beautiful actually there, which is beautiful actually? There's a real, there's a real. That's where we want to that's where.

Speaker 2: 24:25

well, that's where we want to go, like you know, uh, just to wake up, just to not live in that and and that space of misery. There is no need, no, and right now, right now, there is so many tools and those energies are so active. We don't know how long they're going to be active. Today they're active, yeah, so there's no point to waste time.

Speaker 1: 24:48

No, because tomorrow who knows, tap into them.

Speaker 2: 24:53

Yes.

Speaker 1: 24:54

Yes.

Speaker 2: 24:54

For some reason they're active. They were not like that few years back. 10 years ago, energies were not like they are today. So maybe we don't know why, but it's happening. So, while it's up, it's happening. Yeah, we can draw from it. Yes, it's not about using it. We cannot use it, but we can draw from it. It can evolve. We can evolve with them yeah, connect to it, yeah.

Speaker 1: 25:15

And does it help mental health as well?

Speaker 2: 25:18

because, presumably, knowing that you are connected to this energy, to source, beginning to realize that you know you're not alone, must help people's mental health enormously at times yes, uh, yes, for sure, you know, um, I actually experienced a huge deal of um feeling very separate and misunderstood as a child, and that's how my spiritual journey started. I was very, very small, around seven years old, and I started having those questions about existence and the reason why we are here and why we have to, you know, go through all of this in order to go to heaven. So I had all of this existential crisis in the age of seven, followed by very, very strange experiences that no one could um relate to, where I was just kind of sucked into a space that nothing existed and it was terrifying. And being brought up Catholic, it felt like it's something wrong, yeah, like a punishment, yes, and that creates lots of suffering and lots of panic attacks and lots of depression as a child. So the moment years after because years after, as a teenager, basically, I've learned that if I distract myself enough, I am all right, I'm not going into this panic attack, neither depression states, but just the moment when that really changed.

Speaker 2: 26:47

There was the moment when I had my very first session and when I had this experience of being in that very conscious life, when I had this conversation with it. It wasn't verbal this conversation with it. It wasn't verbal but it spoke to me and I just gained that understanding of all those questions that were chasing me and I was so afraid of. It just creates so much peace within me and so much. You know um surety about that. This is actually not random and this is there's nothing to be afraid of. Yeah it it. I gained so much um space where I could just be relaxed. You know, there's nothing to be worried about. So definitely, when we are, uh, there is a lot we can gain on the level of well-being yeah, that that was a word I was going to use, actually when I had had the sessions.

Speaker 1: 27:46

It does put you in a state of peace.

Speaker 2: 27:51

Yes, and when we think about it, I think so that the very high level of um of expansion is the state of peace or balance, despite the external conditions. So when you're reaching the point that you're so content and you're so at ease with everything, despite whatever happening externally, that's a huge progression in this lifetime and that's something everyone should experience. So we are not just, you know, we are just not at the mercy of the situations happening in our life, because that's how mostly people live. You know, we are happy this is happening. Therefore, I'm gonna now cherish it. But because it's everything is in, nothing is permanent, it will subside. Whatever the reason for your happiness is here today, it will change. Therefore, your you know your high peak will subside and the misery is coming next. So, unless we're going to get to the state where we are just so balanced and so at peace that nothing externally is touching us, Amazing.

Speaker 2: 29:15

Yes, yeah, that's where I see this work should go. Yeah, you know, fascinating should go.

Speaker 1: 29:21

Yeah, you know, fascinating, wow. Okay. So you do these silent sitting groups, don't you every week? Yes, we talked about and they're free, aren't they for people? Yes, I offer them.

Speaker 2: 29:34

Everyone is very welcome to come. Currently they're just once a week. For three years I've done it twice a week. But yeah, but everyone is very, very welcome. Of course it's more happening when you have already active process. Yes, those who are doing with me, you know some kind of work or they're attending certain containers. It's much easier for them to tune into that space, um, but everyone is very welcome to come to sit in that space to um, to connect yeah, and and your work is very available because it's on zoom, isn't it so?

Speaker 1: 30:08

um, so I did zoom sessions, which is so easy, isn't it? Yes, yes, so you do, you do online sessions, but you, you also do one-to-ones as well, don't you?

Speaker 2: 30:20

Yes, one-to-one, online and in person, whether there's some kind of programs or retreats. I love the online work and the reason why is that a person who shows up for the online class is already at least. There is no limitation that somebody does something to me that I need to be present within that person in the room. You know, at least they because whenever we are together and it's of course, there's something more powerful, higher possibility when we are in that room together.

Speaker 2: 30:53

But if that is not always possible, online is a beautiful solution and it works just as well. It works just as well, yes, and well, yes, and and this idea that you know physically we are, we don't need to be in the same room. That's mean that somebody's already ready to open to something else, and the question is here. You know that it's not me doing something here, it's not like I am fixing you. You, we are opening to something much higher, something that is non-local, so it doesn't matter where we are, where we are.

Speaker 1: 31:26

No, because when I joined the sessions, people were tuning in all over the world. Actually, yes, yes, which is fabulous, and you also do lovely worldwide retreats. I've been seeing you advertise. You do one in the Himalayas, don't you?

Speaker 2: 31:42

I do, yes, I, I'm doing a usually once a year a retreat in India. This is our third retreat in Himalayas. Um so, yes, uh, love bringing people to India and, just you know, showing them that core of that beautiful work and and and you do it in such a sort of I don't know.

Speaker 1: 32:02

I want to say sacred space. When you're in the himalayas, it's a different feel to it.

Speaker 2: 32:07

Yes, exactly we can connect to really powerful energies. That been there for ages, you know, and lots of masters are very, very active in that, you know, energetic space. So being there, um, just being soaked in that vibration is it's. It's really powerful and, for many, extremely transformational yes, brilliant.

Speaker 1: 32:35

And do you recommend I know that people can come to online, you know at sessions, and but do you recommend that people have a series of sessions? Because it's a form of commitment. I'm committed. Yes, I want to.

Speaker 2: 32:48

I want to see, I want to expand it's a very fair point that people coming once and trying the things. I think so this is fair with everything, with everything, isn't it? But if we really want to do something, if we really want to change, if we want to transform, we need time and repetition. No one goes to gym and, after very first session, looking in the mirror and saying where is my you know six pack or something. No same here either, though. The session can be extremely transformative and powerful in the very first, very first time. You need a process. It's all about the process, it's not about the experience.

Speaker 1: 33:26

I really like to speak about the process, not about the experiences yes, and I always say that energy work is not a quick fix. You have to work, you have to work at it. It's it's like a. It's changing your habits for a lifetime, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 33:41

by all means yes, yes you look at your diet and you think, well, I'm, I'm gonna need to look at my energy too, or whatever. Yes, yes, yeah, exactly thing. Diana, thank you ever so much for coming along. It's fascinating work and, um, yeah, I just, I find it all very fascinating. Thank you very much for having me here again. Oh no, it's been a great pleasure, and I will put up all your contact details under the episode, so if you want to contact Diana, you can. So thank you for listening to us chatting and if you've enjoyed listening to us, then please like, and you can always drop me a question or a question to Diana as well, and I will pass it on and I will speak to you all soon. Thanks,