Authenticity, Boundaries, And The Quiet Power Of Breath with Isabelle Daikeler

What if authenticity isn’t a brand or a performance, but the steady courage to tell the truth—first to yourself, then to the world? We sit down with wellness advisor and fitness and nutrition expert Isabelle Daikeler to unpack how honesty, breath, and body awareness strip away the noise and reveal a life that feels like your own. From the quiet choice to pause before reacting to the radical act of putting down the metaphorical tennis racket, we explore how peace becomes addictive, reactivity fades, and boundaries begin to set themselves.

Isabelle shows how the body flags misalignment long before the mind catches up: the tight jaw, the endless scrolling, the dread you carry to work, the way you disappear in relationships. Rather than chase complex systems, she brings us back to simple practices that work anywhere—ten-second breaths, gentle check-ins through the day, and small, honest adjustments that compound into change. We dig into the difference between defending yourself with rigid rules and allowing self-worth to guide clear, kind no’s. We talk about reshaping inputs—choosing media that calms over content that riles—and why nourishing food, joyful movement, and nature’s sounds are not luxuries but the maintenance of a steady nervous system.

The conversation also stretches into curiosity as a solvent for shame. Treat your patterns like a new recipe: measure, taste, adjust, learn, without the sting of judgement. As you feel more and rationalise less, space opens. Options multiply. The ego stops running the show and returns to its role as a useful tool. In that space, you respond instead of react, and the future you create with each choice softens, brightens, and steadies. If you’ve been craving clarity, grounded self-respect, and rituals that actually stick, this is a warm, practical guide back to basics.

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Transcript

Meet Isabel And Her Philosophy

Authenticity Defined As Telling Truth

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Welcome everybody to a new edition of Farm to the Soul. I'm your host. My name is Natasha Jimmy Price, and I'm a lawyer, I'm an energy healer, I'm an author, and I'm a podcaster. And we have a three-year guest today. But before I introduce her, um, I just want to talk to you um about the music on my podcast. Uh, because a few people have asked me, is it is it supposed to be that long? I think it's three minutes long, but you're supposed to apparently the norm is 30 seconds. Um I love it being a bit longer. And the reason it's like that is because as soon as you hear the music, you can have that time to just relax and chill out and know that you're about to listen to a spiritual conversation or an author, a coach, or you know, an energy healer. And if you just have that time to relax, you wouldn't spend 30 seconds relaxing, it just wouldn't work. So that's why the music's a bit a bit longer. But I haven't had a few people talk to me, and I didn't think should I change it back again? I thought, no, it's gonna be different. We are having a three-minute intro. So I hope I suppose it's a bit like having thoughts, you know. The minute you hear the music, you know you're gonna relax, your body relaxes, and you know you're up for a good conversation. So that's that's my take on the music. So I thought I would just put that out there. So my new guest today is um her name is Isabel Staitler. I hope I said that right. So welcome, Isabel. Thank you for supporting the box podcast. Thank you so much for having me, my dear. It's a pleasure. Now, Isabel is a wellness advisor, a fitness and nutrition expert, and her her focus is helping people to live with less stress and more authenticity. So talk to us about authenticity. Stepping, you know, the spiritual side of authenticity. How do we how do we do that? How do we connect to our true selves?

SPEAKER_00 4:43

Well, the funny thing is we hear the word authenticity a lot nowadays in the last few years. Um, and at some point for me, it became simply telling the truth. So I think before you get um enamored with the spiritual aspect of authenticity and all the things that is being put within that title, for me, it's start being honest, start telling the truth, be honest with yourself, your ability to um um simply not confront in an aggressive way, but simply allow the reality of who you are, the people around you, your situations, um, your reactions to people, to situations, and be honest about it and learn to tell the truth. So it's simple, but for many of us it's complex getting there. But the reality of it is once you start telling the truth more often than not, your life simplifies, your spiritual focus happens automatically. Right? Because the simplicity of our problems, as we know from young work, as we know from the great masters of the world, is really are we lovable? Are you lovable? Am I enough? Are you enough? And learning to reside simply in that space of acceptance and surrender. So it's the great truth of the world that we've been told in many different ways, and everybody has a different entry point. So we all have different people that we connect with that speak a certain way that you resonate with better or not. But all those entry points come back to that ability to be honest with yourself. When they say just be, it means be with all that you are, the situation you're in, your life, the people around you. Um, and I always talk about like playing tennis, right? If you're playing tennis with a partner that's aggressive or has no fun, you know, it's all about competition and you're not enjoying yourself. All you need to do is put your racket down, and that's the truth, and say, I'm done playing. But most of us will continue playing, white lies, manipulating why we're there, or perhaps as an outcome, something we want from it. Therefore, we allow ourselves to play tennis with an individual situation that is not enjoyable, that brings consequences that are not endurable, and really the simplicity of accepting this is just not serving my well-being. I'm gonna be honest about why I'm here, because I brought that situation to myself. Therefore, why am I here? And do I really want that? The simplicity of just being and being honest, and that's what authenticity is.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Yeah, but it's not always easy, is it?

Simplicity Versus Complexity In Life

SPEAKER_00 7:43

And I I'm not saying it's easy, but eventually, eventually, when you apply this, it's like going to the gym, right? You don't go to the gym and pick up a hundred pounds, you start with five pounds, it's or even body weight. It's the same thing. We have life for most of us that are filled with little challenges, and we have opportunities through these little challenges to practice telling the truth. You get better at it, and then eventually you have a 10 pounds, and eventually, as life has it, you get slapped across the face. It will hurt, it will be a difficult situation, but you've practiced telling the truth. You've practiced the muscles of sitting with a situation and knowing that you are enough and that you are strong enough and that you're capable of dealing with the situation as is. But you practice through little moments. It's the same thing. So, no, not easy, but it's simpler, it's not complex because when you lie, your life becomes very complex. When you tell the truth, it might hurt in the moment, but there's a simplicity that eventually will bring ease. Yes, you know.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

I was more thinking of, you know, when people lose themselves in a relationship, you know, so they just go along with what the other part person wants for an easy life. That is losing your way, but that's not that's not telling the truth, though, is it?

SPEAKER_00 9:16

That's absolutely there's a reason why you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

They don't know they're doing it.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

Yeah, they don't know because they're probably trained in a certain way with their family, their community, their school, right? Their teachers. So correct. And I and I love relationships. Um I at my authenticity ranch, that is what I do. We sit together and we look at situations that brought disease in your physical, emotional well-being. So, yes, there's a reason. So if you were to just sit and acknowledge the very thing you just said, yeah, what do I get from this that I think is worth losing myself?

SPEAKER_01 10:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Because my ego thinks it's getting something worthwhile.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Is it so first is to simply, you don't have to do anything, is to sit with the uncomfortableness that you are living constantly by doing that, and allowing that uncomfortableness to bubble up because there's an emotion to it, and you don't have to fix it, you can just allow it. That's the meditation, that's the sitting, that's the quiet time that we talk about, that's going to nature and just being, because that way you're not you're not distracting yourself, and you can allow the hurt and the sadness that comes with losing yourself so much so that you are transparent in that relationship. It's about them, and you disappear. So, yes, you can point a finger at other person is contributing to it, but that's their work to do for themselves if they wish. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

But your work is why am I allowing this to happen?

SPEAKER_00 12:02

Why am I not saying this isn't right or I don't want to do that or whatever? What do you think I'm getting? What am I getting out of that? Am I really getting that? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

And it's not about being aggressive or it's just about gently setting your boundaries, isn't it?

Feeling First, Boundaries Follow

SPEAKER_00 12:21

That's that all. Yes. Well, the boundaries come automatically. It's interesting. You can work very hard at putting boundaries, but it's like putting a wall around the very thing, then you're caught inside that very thing and you put boundaries around it, as opposed to if you just sit with that discomfort and you don't have to let that feeling be hijacked by your thinking, whether it's giving a reason for it, you know, um, or whether it's um thinking that you have no choice, uh, pointing the finger at circumstances outside of yourself. It has nothing to do with your brain thinking through it. It's literally saying, I got it. We'll get back to that. For now, I'm just feeling. And what happens is it liberates you. It when you feel, allow yourself to feel without getting hijacked by your judgment, your thoughts. What happens is it comes out and it allows space. And in that space, it's almost like you had those, you know, those glasses that don't allow you to see on each side. It's like you were caught here with your thoughts, hijacking the emotion and giving it purpose. And then you allowed yourself to feel, and then you took off those glasses, and now your peripheral vision is full. Yeah, and you see so many other options of how to be. Yes. So the boundaries don't even have to be there because it will be automatic, right? Yeah, it will be automatic. We can get deeper into that if you want, but I've lived it enough and I've watched it happen enough that these boundaries are really just uh an authentic sense of self-worth. Yes. If you have worth, I'm worthy of love and kindness and respect. Those boundaries establish themselves automatically.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

Yes, okay, okay. So we're not actually setting boundaries, you are just stepping, stepping back into and allowing your own self-worth to create those situations.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

Yeah, you take care of yourself finally. Yeah, so you trust that you're capable of taking care of yourself. And then yes, you may end up saying, No, that's not okay with me. But you didn't work hard to create boundaries and have a list of all the things you're not supposed to allow. Yes, you can practice that way. You know, we can all have entry ways that have different tools, but the reality of it is the simplicity of allowing these feelings to come up, and this that freeing will make you behave in a way that will look as if you finally have your boundaries. But what you finally have is I'm good enough, I'm lovable, yes, and I'm capable.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Yes. So when we're not, what happens if we're not in alignment?

SPEAKER_00 15:26

That's what's happened.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Yeah, sorry, go on. No, please go on. I was just gonna say, you know, what happens if because often if something that happens in our life, it could be quite traumatic and um you know, and shocking or you know, just a change in your your the way that you live your life, and then you suddenly step into another way, another chapter, another situation, and you think actually I wasn't who I wanted to be before. Because it always has to be like a pivotal point. You know, how can we tell that we're not in alignment? That's what I'm trying to say. Because when you were living your life, you were just getting on with it, you were, you know, you thought you were happy, you know, you didn't realize that actually there's a whole different world for me somewhere else, maybe after that trauma, but it's not something you can plan for. Does that make sense?

Self-Worth As Natural Boundary

Signs You’re Out Of Alignment

Micro-Pauses And Daily Breaths

SPEAKER_00 16:26

Well, there's a lot you ask questions that are so vast. I'm sorry. No, that's fantastic, but it's hard to give like a simple one-liner because you're giving me like so much material. Sorry. No, no, I love it, I love it. Um, those are my favorite type of questions because we are not simple and we are not just one-liner, we are a book, right? Yeah, so so first I would challenge the concept that we are not aware that we were not in alignment, because we feel it in our bodies. We we feel it in all sorts of little ways, whether it's the constant sort of low-grade tension inside of you, whether it's the kind of relationship you have with your husband or your children, whether it's the kind of people you interact day in and day out, and then you go home and you complain, you're not happy about them, whether it's the anxiety and fear or anger that you have when you go to work. There's so many ways, whether it's eating the things you know you shouldn't eat, whether it's um watching hours and hours of TV, um, whether it's hating getting dressed because you hate the way you look. Like there's so many, so many examples. I could go on and on and on about the many ways that it is showing itself that you're not in alignment. Because being in alignment is simply being okay. Like I said, I always come back to the very same thing. You're lovable, others are lovable, you're okay, they're okay. And it's not, oh, my life is hell, but I'm gonna do nothing. You know, people go to extreme, I'm gonna go into nothing and just be, and then they make fun of those statements. There's a reason why the great masters have said it for thousands of years. There's truth to that, meaning that the say exactly what I said earlier. You know, you know you're not at peace. You know you would rather have communication and affection, let's say, with your husband, or you know you would rather be able to communicate and have an in with your teenager. You know you would rather go to work. And even though it's not perfect, see what it is that you are getting from it that is enhancing in your life. There's so many things you know you would rather. That's that's the world showing you that you're out of alignment. Um, so for many of us, again, we can go to extreme cases, but I'm trying to stay general, right? Because you can always deny everything, let's say I'm saying by going to extremes, and I'm welcoming going to extreme situations. But I'm I'm staying with most of us. So, like I said, most of us will be slap at some point with some big events that really hurt. The same truth will apply. But if you're not slapping, it's this constant discontentment, criticism, uncomfortableness, just never really well. Just never really well. Maybe it's always keeping busy. Nowadays we have the phone and we scroll forever to avoid just being with yourself. So many of us, it will be little changes. This is why often I'll say to people, when you know you're avoiding an emotion, I'm not telling you you have to now go hide the Malayans, or you know, nowadays that everybody's going to big spiritual trips. Well, what if you can't afford the trip? What if you can't afford the big guru of the day? But you have yourself and you have your body that shows you exactly what to do. Something is uncomfortable, you know you're holding back some feelings, you know you're holding back things you want to say. And because you're holding back, you know that if you say them, it might explode and be aggressive. If you were to express kindly on a daily basis, you wouldn't have a need to do that. So you can sit for two, three seconds and just breathe. And I'm not even telling you a method of how to breathe, how many seconds in and out. Yes, it's lovely. I'm never saying those things are not lovely, but I'm saying you I don't want to give you any fuel to avoid doing the simple things that are working that requires nothing but a little moment of at some point going back in, remembering the moment where you you closed in or you tighten up or your shoulders went up or you were angry and you held back, and going back and taking a few breaths and just allowing these feelings to come up. And they may come up only through here. It's okay. You do it, you do five, 10 seconds several times a day. I prefer that than one big sitting, and then you go back to holding back and being dishonest with yourself. So little breath throughout the day to sort of touch base with where you're at. And and so back to your question is yes, you'll be slapped, some big event will happen. And sometimes people make a 180 degree. I've had a few of those, but but but as important is all the little things that you do that will be more incognito, you might not notice, but if you look back a year, two years, three years, you'll notice that the quality of your life is different. Yeah, less discontentment, less criticism, less things to talk about about others, what they're not doing, what's wrong with them. Because that's the ego way to try to feel better. So you push down other people so you can look bigger. All these little moments will disappear. And these little moments, it's like little hangnails that it's almost like an addiction, but they scratch you all the time. It doesn't feel good, and you retrieve each time. So allowing yourself this little breath, whenever something uncomfortable happens, you may not be able to sit and cry. That's okay. Little breath, just making a a pause to pay attention. Yeah, I might have continued talking and acting like everything was okay, but inside that really hurt me. And taking the time to take care of yourself that way.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

Yeah. And so eventually you just because I know that I when I've done some work and then I sat back and I thought, actually, I just feel happier. I just feel happier on a day-to-day basis. And that's what it feels like. It's not like a you know, thunderbolt or anything. You just like you say, you edge towards it, and then you suddenly think, Yeah, I I just feel happier day to day.

Peace Over Reactivity

SPEAKER_00 23:09

Yeah, peace is not glamorous, right? Peace, it's hard to market peace or yeah, find a superhero jacket for it. It's um, like you said, it it creeps, it slowly creeps up on you and it's highly addictive. Yeah. Much more than anything else. Once you get a little piece of it, you want more. It is more pleasant to function from a place of peace, which some people would say it's you know, the central nervous system reset, the fight or flight or rest and digest, right? So you can speak of it that way, where when you're calm, you respond to life. When you're not, you react to life. When you respond, there's many possibilities. You have time, you pause. You're worthy enough to take your time in this situation. Even if the other person makes you feel as if you're supposed to can't get back and you know, give them what they want. You feel worthy enough to take your time because you know that your response will create your future. Yeah. If I slap someone, the consequences of that will be very different than if I paused and I took a breath and I responded in a kinder way, which doesn't mean you don't take care of yourself, but it's kinder. Therefore, the other person will probably not go around and talk badly about you or will not yell back. Everything, that future that you created will be completely different. And all these little moments being changed by thy pause, that breath, that worthiness slowly transforms your life.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

Yes. And do you, I think also it stops the mind chatter so much as well. When you can get rid of that mind chatter, and that comes with peace and doing it. Yes, which is lovely that's when that's stopped in my head, it's it's amazing. It is. You have head basically. You have the head space.

Quieting Mind Chatter And Ego

SPEAKER_00 25:15

Yeah. Yeah. The you give less food to the ego as opposed to fighting the ego, the ego takes its place, meaning it's a wonderful tool. To navigate life in many, many ways. We only see the negative aspect of the ego, but it has its place, but it's not the leader. Your heart is the leader. Yes. And so the less you provide food for the ego by yelling at people, by dismissing yourself, dismissing your feelings, by being unkind to yourself and others, all these things, it's fuel for the ego. So you can also go about it that way. You're just taking care of yourself the way we've been discussing. There's less fuel. So it calms down, right?

SPEAKER_01 25:56

And that's that's sort of very energetic based. But also you're talking as well about, you know, your body as well. It's all inter, it's all interlocked, isn't it? So you're you're kind, you eat the right foods, you try and be kind to your body as well, because that's all part and parcel of it, isn't it?

Body, Food, And Spiritual Action

SPEAKER_00 26:15

Yeah, I don't see the body as a sep this separation of spiritual body, like God is woven within every cell of your system. And um, so yeah, to me, there's no difference. This is why authenticity was quite accurate for me. Meaning, start with the very reality that you're with. At this very moment, who you're with, who you're talking to, what situation is present in front of you, and trust that there's a different way to respond to it. And use these little simple tools. That's spiritual in action, that's love in action. Love is action. If you care about yourself, eventually you want you want your body to feel good and to move, to be agile or to to be painless or less pain. Yes, yeah, you uh you just take care of yourself.

Everyday Rituals That Restore You

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Yes, absolutely. And you've talked about sitting and breathing and feeling what emotions come up. Are there any other simple routine rituals and routines that you follow that you you know that really helps you along your path?

SPEAKER_00 27:28

Yeah, well, I think there's a million ways to do that. So many of us, I think, respond to just walking in nature. Yes, lovely. It's hard to find a human being that doesn't respond to the sound of birds singing, um, universal wind in the trees. That sounds the sea, yeah, yeah. Yes, um, wave crashing, um, focusing on sounds when you walk, the crunching when you walk, just focusing on sounds that are soothing. But really, it could be anything. If painting is your thing, paint. If doing your hair, playing with different styles, do it. Um, working out, do it. Cooking an amazing meal, a new recipe, do it. Whatever calms you down, whatever is pleasurable and has no usefulness really, except bringing that peace. I don't care what it is, painting your toenails and your nails. Um, you know, it's it's there's no there's no end, and and it's as creative as there are human beings. So whatever brings you that smile, whatever where you're just having a lovely time, whatever, it could be so simple. Please do it. For me, I love training. As you saw in my in my background, I was a track and full, track and field coach assistant, um, sport rehabilitation, sport massage, sports therapy, uh, rehabilitation was my gig. I love the body, understanding how it works. Yeah. Um, so training all sorts of different modalities just brings me so much joy. I just love it. So it's still a big aspect of what brings a smile on my face.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Yeah. And just doing that, just focusing on that really brings you into the present, doesn't it? And it really grounds you as well, especially being out in nature. It just, it just um, I mean, you can say all the you like it brings you into the present, it brings it grounds you, but I'm just it there's a it's a special feeling in a way, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 29:44

I can't a solid feeling, yeah, yeah. Because it's you, it's who you are at the core of it, it's a remembering, it's a knowing. And so, do I believe, do I have faith? Like all these terminology, but the reality of knowing is being grounded, yeah, right. There's no more doubts there.

SPEAKER_01 30:08

No, and actually, if you find something that you're passionate that you would love and you're passionate about, like cooking or doing whatever, and you become very focused on it, that's a very different again. That's that same feeling, isn't it? It's that a very different vibration. It's um there's no judgment there.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

No, no. No, like if you cook, let's say you love to cook and you have that you've never cooked Indian food, and it you're doing it just to explore how to do it. There's more, there's no have faith that I'm gonna be great at it. You don't care, you're in your kitchen alone, and you're just having a lovely time exploring this new way of cooking, new smells, new food. Yeah, that's the the strength of of the lack, that's the the end of this. Yes, it's just in the moment. That's just why love is action, yes, and the lack of ego.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Yeah, not competition or or that's right, is better than someone else. You're just being you.

Curiosity, Compassion, And Self-Forgiveness

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Yeah, yeah. And everything in the world is trying to tell us how we're supposed, especially women, but unfortunately, men are getting there. What we're supposed to look like forever, it's been like this for women. It's not getting better. Now, even if you're healthy and well and active at 50 or 60, not quite good enough. You should look like you're 30, right? It's like this never-ending judgment of how we should be. Yeah. And if you do something that you love and you're proud of and brings you joy and some money, oh, it's not good enough. You're supposed to be, I don't know what it's called, like um, you know, a hit on Instagram or on YouTube, or like this constant comparison to greatness. Yeah, there's no such thing. The greatness is this moment that you and I are talking about, this sort of peace and this groundedness and this knowing that you're okay, you're lovable, you're worthy, and it's whoever you are is good. Yeah, it's good, including all the stuff you don't like. Because when you go deep into the stuff you don't like, the way you go into cooking. So let's say you have a cooking book and you don't know that herbs and they're not quite clear on how much two pinch tree, what's the pinch? How much is a pinch? Like you're just looking, and there's an excitement and a curiosity, and you're like looking at different pages, reading, but you're not saying, oh, oh my God, I should know what a pinch is, what a loser I am, right? You're just investigating. The more you do that with yourself, the things that you don't like, you will discover so many things about the why of this thing that you don't like. And it's inevitable that you will suddenly have waves of compassion for yourself because you'll have little uh-uh moments, not arguing and and um judging the things you don't like about yourself, but going into it with curiosity and breath, yeah, with investigation in mind. I swear you get to like, oh, I understand, and then you have gratitude, compassion, forgiveness, and there it goes, it dissipates.

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Yes, fascinating. It's it's um it's such it's lovely to listen to you talk, and you know, I wish everybody would just do you know, start doing these practices because um I just want everybody to understand how much better your life is and how much happier you are.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

Um this is why I don't like to go into complex system. No, there's five pillar of ten things you have to do in the morning when you get up. Yeah, am I saying that many of these things are not wonderful? No, but it doesn't, you everything you need is right here.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

Yeah, it's just back to you, it's back to you, isn't it? And being aware of you, being aware of what emotion is coming out, yeah, yeah.

Media Diet And Choosing Inputs

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Allowing it, yes, allowing it, making little moments, breathing a few breaths several times a day, just simple things. I mean, look at the great masters and their stories, they had nothing, right? Most of them would walk and walk and walk, or sit and sit, and just be and breathe and meditate. Or they had nothing. So we have amazing tools now, but they're just tools, it's a choice, and you don't need it to find yourself, to make pace with yourself, to find solutions for yourself. And it starts with breathing, I think, but allowing with a moment. That's all. And that's my goal at authenticity. I swear to you, my goal with discussing things with you and with other podcasts. It's simply, I'm one of many, many, many voices. We've all said the same thing, but it's the goal is it's simple. Don't worry, you don't need more money, you don't need to go to a seminar. I'm not saying it doesn't help, just saying you can start with very simple steps. And you do meditation, so you knew that, you know that very well. You do healing work, you know that very well. When I move through healing work with my clients, I don't know what your experience is, but for me, I step away. I have nothing to do with it. I'm definitely not the one doing it. No, it's being done through me. It's that we're the facilitators, that's we're just there to allow it. Yeah, and the goal is to allow the person to have a sense of that so that on their own, eventually they can access that.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

And the breath is an entry point that is universal and easily accessible.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Yes, and I actually think breath work and fasting, I think both of them are so powerful. Yeah, you don't need any money, you don't need to do anything other than you won't look at your own body, not taking food.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

That's right. Yeah, it's also choosing choosing who you're listening to, right? Yeah, yeah. Yes, if you go online and it's somebody that riles you up, it's like an addiction. Maybe you look at that and you think, you know what, I'm gonna minimize those to 10 minutes a day. I'm gonna start looking for people, conversations that brings me back to this.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Yeah, or that inspire you, or or you know, so it's more the swell of emotion, but a good emotion. Yes. You know, you can watch some videos on your feed maybe and get, like you say, riled up. And the more you watch them, the more that come onto your so you get into the you know, listening to inspirational people, it's you get more of that loop. Little balance there, right? Yeah, yeah. Which way that you want to go, and it's just being conscious of those little choices.

Little Choices, Lasting Change

SPEAKER_00 37:27

That's right. We're looking for the big 180, but really it's the little choices, one step at a time. Yeah, so people can start today. People can with your music that you were discussing. Yes, the three mute, that's it. I was smiling, it's like there you go. Absolutely, you set the pace.

SPEAKER_01 37:48

Yeah, because we don't want all you can't have more than 30 seconds, and I'm thinking, well, you don't relax with 30 seconds. Nobody relax, like you know. I like to just sit down and think, yeah, okay, breathe, listen to the music, let's listen to a conversation. And you're and in a a sort of head up way, or uh, you know, you've got everybody's busy, aren't they? So they're you know in a rough.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

Yeah, and you're I was gonna say you're breaking the pattern of we want things like that.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:20

No, take your time and take three minutes. Three minutes.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

I know it's nothing, is it?

SPEAKER_00 38:30

If you don't have three minutes, think about that. Pause, do a few breaths, and just look at that.

Closing And Listener Invitation

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Yes, why don't you have three minutes to just sit and listen? Yes. Yes, yes. It's been lovely speaking to you as well. Oh, you too. It's been too talking to you, and I'm very much on the same page. Back to basics, absolutely. Yes, yes, you need, and like you say, other things help, and other great if that's gonna help you, but you don't need it, you need to go back to basics.

SPEAKER_00 39:03

Yeah, yeah, you've got everything you need right here, right now. Excellent.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

So thank you so much, and I will put all your details um up underneath the episode. So if people would like to contact you, they can do so.

SPEAKER_00 39:18

So thank you so much. I appreciate it, and thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01 39:22

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