Becoming Visible Through Healing with Vivian Moyo

What if the hardest part of healing isn’t the pain itself, but the silence that surrounds it? We sit down with trauma-informed coach and energy healer Vivian Moyo to explore how invisibility takes root in families, how it shows up in our bodies, and how clear boundaries, daily practices, and courageous questions can transform that story. Vivian opens up about losing her mother in early childhood, growing up in Zimbabwe, and the long shadow cast when a family avoids its own history. Her new book, The Invisible Girl: Breaking The Silence Of Trauma, blends memoir with guided reflections that help you identify symptoms, build a support system, and take practical steps toward wellbeing.

Across this conversation, we trace the difference between fixing others and caring for yourself first. Vivian shares the moment she chose self-respect over an on-and-off relationship, and how simple boundary lines—when to call, when to visit, what a relationship is and isn’t—reclaimed her voice. We get specific about emotional boundaries for empaths, how journaling offloads absorbed feelings, and why meditation and breathwork regulate the nervous system better than willpower alone. We also unpack generational trauma: how addictions, abandonment, and emotional distance repeat across decades, and what it takes to interrupt those patterns before they pass to the next generation.

For anyone navigating grief, depression, or the weight of family stories, this episode offers grounded tools and compassionate language. You’ll learn how to recognise repeating patterns, design a support system that tells you the truth, and use energy hygiene to protect your presence with clients and loved ones. Healing isn’t a finish line; it’s a way of living. If you’re ready to move from unseen to self-led, this is your map.

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Transcript

Welcome And Vivian’s Mission

SPEAKER_00 2:30

Welcome everybody to another um episode of Farmed and Soul. I'm your host, Natasha Joy Price, and I'm an energy healer, I'm an author, I'm a podcaster. And today we have a lovely new guest, and her name is Vivian Lennyo. So welcome, Vivian. Thank you so much for coming on to the podcast. Thank you so much, Natasha, for having me. No, it's a pleasure. And as always, Vivian and I have had a great conversation before I press the record button. This is something I do all the time.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

For about 20 minutes, isn't it, Natasha?

SPEAKER_00 3:07

I know. So apologies. We're gonna go over those topics again. So um Vivian is a trauma-informed coach dedicated to helping individuals heal from their past, overcome emotional challenges, and step into a life of clarity, confidence, and purpose, um, which sounds fascinating. So let's talk because this is what we've been talking about. Your is this your first book, The Invisible Girl?

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Yes, I am. I'm a first author.

SPEAKER_00 3:39

I'm excited. So that is available to pre-order on the 30th of March. But just tell us about the invisible girl. What what what is it about?

Childhood Loss And Silence In Zimbabwe

SPEAKER_01 3:50

So the invisible girl is the whole title of the invisible girl is breaking the silence of trauma. So really it's for anyone who has ever felt invisible, who's ever felt unseen, who's ever felt like they were never good enough, um, who's also been through trauma growing up as well, and had to heal and deal with that. And also the idea of the invisible girl is so that anyone can relate to it. I believe at some point in in our lives, a lot of people have felt invisible, and I guess invisible means different to a lot of people, but either way, I feel like regardless of um of how they have felt, it is relatable. But Natasha, it the the the the the spin-off of this book is is actually my my my story, is my childhood story. So I am the invisible girl, and it basically introduces um my story to the readers so they can really understand my background and why I do what I do right now. So it's talking about um um back home in Zimbabwe. I was born in Zimbabwe and um back in 1985 and um losing my mom at the age of three years old, and that was really a shame because at three years old I don't really have any memories of my mum whatsoever. Maybe if I was six, maybe I could tell you exactly how my mum was, but because I was literally three years old, so I don't remember anything. So that T is all in the book, uh, and then also going on to talking about like not having my father in my life, and also my mum felt like she was invisible because not and not because people my family didn't want to talk about it, like it felt like it was a taboo to even talk about my mum. Literally, like nobody told me anything about my mum for years, there was just silence, um, and that's why it's called breaking the silence of trauma. And then even with my dad, like if he felt invisible too, he felt like he would he never appeared. It felt like I just came just like that, and no mum, no dad. Either way, uh growing up uh with my grandmother is the only time I felt seen. She loved me like I was her own daughter, and uh my grandmother was my mother's mother, so when my mum died, I was left in her care, and um, she's the only person that I remember vividly. And um, by the time I was 11 years old, she then brought me to the UK to stay with my uncle and his family because they felt like that would be easier for me to you know get into that, and then it then talks about other traumas that I've been through. I don't want to give too much details, this is just the summary of it, and then he talks about many other traumas that I've been through, but then it also talks about let's heal from these things, um, he explains that some traumas as well. I don't know, uh Natasha, if you believe this based on what you do, I believe a lot of traumas that we've been through are generational traumas, meaning that our ancestors had many had many traumas in their lives, but unfortunately that they never healed that pain um that they went through. So what happens is it just reproduced from bloodline to another, to another, and then it carried on. And you might find a good example, you might find that back in the days, maybe the the grandfather of the family was a heavy drinker, right? And then somehow down the line, you have children, and all of a sudden they're just addicted to drinking, is because it has been something that's being herited, and I believe until somebody in this past life says enough is enough, I'm gonna take a stand, I'm gonna break the silence of trauma, and I'm going to do the healing work, and I'm not gonna pass it on to the next generation. And I feel like that's how we break it. So I go into details about that, and yeah, really, and then I've got like healing reflections in the book as well, because I want it to be a tour guide towards your healing as well, where you get to do the work while you're reading the book. So it's not one of those books where you peek and you read, it's one of those books you might need to revisit like five times, um, because the the healing props, I believe, they're the key to the healing uh things. So, for example, what do you think are some of the main factors that contribute to depression? So it gets you to think about that. Uh, what are some self-care activities that you find helpful when you're struggling with depression? So you actually have to think about it and actually have to do the work basically, and then it's got like an insight to the whole chapter where it talks about depression is a complex and challenging condition, but healing is possible by understanding what depression is, recognizing its symptoms, seeking professional help, practicing self-care, building a strong support system, and drawing on your own inner resources, you can overcome depression and reclaim your joy and well-being. So, literally, it gets you really thinking about you. And if you have been silenced about your own trauma, this might actually awaken it, but also help you to begin to heal from the pain that you have silenced. So that's what the book is about.

Generational Trauma And How It Repeats

SPEAKER_00 10:40

It sounds amazing, and I'm sure it's going to trigger readers to be conscious about one to be conscious about the need to heal, and two, it will bring things up that they can start looking at. That's the whole point. That's the whole point, yeah. Perfect. So um, obviously, you had childhood trauma, um, which you just briefly described. So, how did you go from that to um being a trauma-informed coach? How did you decide to has that always been something that you think, right, I'm gonna use this, I'm gonna use it to help other people, or did you come to it another way?

SPEAKER_01 11:23

You know what? It just bothered me as I I was growing up. Um, from a very young age, a lot of people used to come to me with difficult situations that they were going through, and they'll just speak to me about them like strangers would just approach me and talk to me, and they'll always they always used to say even there's something about your your energy, you're always amazing. I feel safe to talk to you. I don't know you, but I feel safe. There's something about you, so it's always been a thing from a very young age, and I guess that became something that I did to help others, not realizing at the same time I was escaping my own pain, right?

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Okay, so but that's that I mean, obviously, you were uh you know, people recognized your energy as somebody who would be able to assist them. That's lovely. I think that's great. So, what helped you the most? Because obviously, before we become healers and before we get training things, you know, we have to look to ourselves and do healing, don't we? So what what what really helped you you know grow and heal?

SPEAKER_01 12:45

Okay, so about five years ago, um, I was in this relationship that was on and off for like three years, and um I used to make so many excuses for this guy, and I used to feel like I was meant to change him because I knew his story, he also had been through a lot of issues without having his father around, and you know, I made excuses for that because emotionally he wasn't available, and so I almost confounded to his ways as it's good, even though they were not healthy ways, until until I had this stillness, this still voice that came to me and it said, Vivian, you got it all wrong. It has never been about fixing him or about fixing others. It has always been about you fixing yourself first. Once you begin to fix yourself, begin to stop and begin to stop running away and really be with yourself and begin to do the journey, your power, your superpower, the healing power that you have will come even 10 times more than what you think you're already doing. And so I had to quit my job. I had to I had to really be in a space of silence where I really had to ask within myself, okay, here I am. What is it that I really want to do? If there wasn't um coaching or therapy or helping people, what is it that I what is it that I want from me? What does Vivian need? Yeah, that's when the healing journey begins.

Healing Reflections And Doing The Work

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Yeah, that's amazing. Really interesting. And I'm and I know that you talk about how powerful it is to have the right support because I'm always going on about how important it is. And with my journey, I had a group of peers that I used to call my energy buddies, and we would text each other and talk to each other and just say this has happened, or I feel like this, or and it's just an outlet, isn't it? To help. But you also talk about how powerful to have the right support, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 15:11

Um the right support system, yes, it is, but unfortunately for me, it was a little bit different. Um, as in I had nobody to support me in my journey. Because remember, I've created this um this space where everybody is looking up to me, and I had nobody to tend to when I needed help, and that's when I realized the importance of creating a strong support system for yourself, because that was the mistake I made when I was going through that. That's when I realized I had nobody, everybody around me was relying on me, and so I really had to or the people that I had were either toxic people because based on trauma bonding relationships, because you know, when you've been through trauma for so long, you you attract people that are similar to you, and and then it becomes even harder to heal because you don't have somebody who who isn't like that who can then be like Vivian, this is wrong, this person is not for you. That's why I feel like having the right support system, they can literally tell you that this boy is not for it is not the right one for you, but it almost looked like as if my journey I had to go through it on my own so I can learn and then teach others how to do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

So, really, that was a lesson in itself for you, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

That was a sort of some sort of healing that needed to be healed for you in order to use somebody else's support, exactly that, and then my healing as well was it required to leave people behind, yeah, absolutely, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:00

And that's I think that's true for you know, you go through periods of time as well where people just drop away, or you know, they just stop talking to you, or they just stop texting you. And I've had that many a time, and I you know, it can be quite hurtful, and then you have to stop and think, well, hold on, you know, maybe that relationship has come to an end now. Maybe that's not the support I need now. You know, there's always a reason, there's always a way of um, and actually, when you create that space and people drop away, new people come in.

Becoming A Trauma-Informed Coach

SPEAKER_01 17:42

And you know, and perhaps they wouldn't come in if you hadn't cleared exactly that, exactly that, and then also I guess building connection is a very powerful way of healing, but also you might realize that you might need to break away from certain connections, and that means that setting boundaries for yourself that is another thing that helped me. So, with my ex, I realized that he had a lot more power over me because I didn't have any boundaries whatsoever. I allowed him to do whatever, I allowed him to break up with me, come back to me whenever he pleased it. Like I was a dummy, you know what I mean? I allowed that, and I don't I don't blame him for it because he realized that he can, so he did. Um, but then I had to stop it by putting boundaries in place and letting him know that if we're gonna be in a relationship, let's be in a relationship. If we're gonna be friends, let's be friends because it was it, you know, a lot of guys these days they want to be friends with benefits, right? So they can only kick cake and eat it, and I'm like, no, we're not doing that, and then setting time limits on when he can come over. Like, you cannot come over to my house after nine, like you come to my house before six p.m. You know, you cannot call me after nine, you call me before you know 7 p.m. So then he knows that slowly by slowly, I'm not that girl anymore. So he knows that actually he cannot come and you know eat his cake like that. So eventually, when I really started to stand up for myself, he disappeared, and that's when I realized he was never for me, but also I realized I needed to learn from him. He came to teach me how to love myself. So the moment I started setting boundaries, he left, and that was because his job was done, he never came back again.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Yeah, and setting boundaries is about loving yourself, isn't it? It's about self-love, self-respect. You know, it's not about um just being stroppy or whatever, it's about what is right for you. Um exactly, yeah, and it's a really important, I think.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Even if it means even if it means you being selfish, because a lot of the times we feel like, oh, am I being is saying no, like, does it mean I'm being selfish? Is saying no, does it mean I'm being cold? No. Saying no is you're protecting yourself, like you don't need to say yes if you don't want to, and a lot of people will say yes all the time, just to keep the peace as well in a relationship.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

So you you often find that people will say yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

And they sort of lose themselves in that relationship, exactly that, and so and I feel like for me, Natasha, like my lesson here as a healer, I don't know if it's the same thing for you, but I had to go through that so I can come and help others, but then at the same time, I had to learn to love myself. My lesson here in this lifetime was to come back, you know, talking about recarnation was to come back and love myself first and not wait for anyone to love me, not wait for validation, not wait for anyone else to be like, oh Vivian, you're good, you know. No, I had to do that for myself because the work that I have been called to do is gonna get even it's gonna get even more deeper. So I needed to be okay with me.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Yeah, absolutely. And for me, I think it I needed to be okay to talk about these things and talk about my energy healing and you know, um, you know, speak my truth basically. Um, so that's that's what I've learned to do because I've had a what I call a model job, and um I still have, and when I talk about my energy healing, they go, What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 21:50

So you're like crazy, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Like energy work, but you have to step into your own power in a way, don't you? You have to say, No, this is what I believe. I absolutely wholeheartedly believe it. I'm not mad, so you know, you just have to accept that.

SPEAKER_01 22:09

That's the right people that the right people for you will automatically know that. Oh, yeah, I know what you mean. I'm the same. Do you know what I mean? The more you start speaking, the more you're realizing, and then another thing about me that a lot of people still don't know, which I try I talk to I talk about a lot more, which I feel like I need to talk more about. I am also an energy healer as well. I you know, and I feel like it's something that maybe that's why when people come to me, they feel that healing without me even me even doing anything.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

Because people think it's spooky, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Yeah, well, I was talking about this this this morning with um on another podcast about how sometimes I work with somebody in my mother job and then I shift them and they start having emotional stuff come up. And they don't really understand why it's happened. But for me, it's become a pattern, and I used to worry about it. I used to think, oh my goodness, you know, what's going on here? But now I just think what it's meant to be, it's just what it is. I've done so much work on myself that I just um just by you know, working with me. So a bit like you're saying people are attracted to your energy, there's something, you know, they know that you're that person on that wavelength, you know, similar thing.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Exactly. And uh before I never knew what it was, because yeah, I just used to just wonder, people would say my voice, they something about my voice. Natasha, when I hear my voice, I don't know what they're hearing. They're like my voice, my presence, like literally, but it's only after I've started doing the work I'm realizing what it is that I carry and who I am really. And I think maybe I need uh maybe I think I'm a little bit like you as well, where I'm sort of like stepping more into my power as well.

The Wake-Up Call: Boundaries And Self-Love

SPEAKER_00 24:18

Yeah, absolutely. So, um, along those lines, talking about energy therapy, is there something that you do daily to sort of um work on yourself or you know, that could be considered spiritual? You know, is there anything that you you love doing?

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Meditation. I love meditation. Meditation is the one thing that I do. Like if I haven't done it in a while, I feel some type of way because I feel like meditation calms me down, it regulates my nerve system, and it allows me to really tap into that actual energy as well. Um, especially when I'm like holding my hands um like this. Um viewers can't see if I'm holding my my hands like upwards. I can feel the vibration of the energy just flowing through, and I can literally be in meditation for like a whole hour. And sometimes I forget I have to kind of like come back to myself, and that's where I I do breath work. Well, in that moment, like before going deep, I'll start off with breath work to really help me calm down, uh, which is amazing. But also, I've I use my hands because I do have my um I again my my hands apparently they're healing hands, so I do sort of like touch my body and I do sort of like regulate and heal heal myself if there's any pain anywhere else. So if let's say I've got back pain or this or my leg was hurting during that moment, like literally it just becomes a whole healing session, literally. Yeah, lovely. Like I'm in a different life. Do you feel the same when you meditate?

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Absolutely. I love meditating. I um the other day somebody was asking me what sort of meditation I do, and I said, I don't know what it's called. I asked over 20 years, I've sort of picked up little bits from different courses that I've been on and just sort of got into this eclectic way of meditating that works for me. Um but one thing I do know is after sort of 15 years of meditating, whatever it is, that um I got to a certain point and that mind chatter just turned off almost as if it was like a switch. So for me, it's very quiet, it's very peaceful, it's just it's lovely and it sort of it re-energizes you in a way. Uh you get your batteries recharged, which is just amazing. I mean, I always promote meditation and weighting, you know, those are like the foundations.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

That's it, right?

SPEAKER_00 27:16

That's what I was talking about about the head movement. Yes, that that really creates an amazing structure for anybody wanting to, you know, start working on themselves and um working with energy, I think.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

And another tool that I and another tool that I use, I literally just did now before coming in, is um because of the type of work that we do, uh it we have so much thoughts happening, and um I I had I'm still learning. Maybe you can teach me how you've gone about it, but I'm a very empathic person, so I can literally draw others' emotions onto mine and feel the emotions as if they were mine, and then to the point where it becomes harder to detach from that, so then I'm then almost caring that person's way because I really want that person to heal. I really like I I take on their story too hard that it actually affects my emotions as well. And so, in order for me to offload that, I need to do journaling, I need to talk write down whatever is going through my mind, uh, whatever it is, like it doesn't even it doesn't even need to have a structure. Literally, every thoughts and whatever I'm going through, I just write it down, and I find that after I've done that, the relief and the peace is amazing.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Yes, yeah, I do promote journaling, I think it's very, very helpful. It it helps you to get all of that mind chatter out onto the page and just clear space. So, yeah. And and when clients come to me, protection as well. Protection is very um important so that you don't, you know, you've got a way of clearing what you're picking up from clients. But I always like to talk to my clients about you know, if they don't have that outlet, they don't want to be carrying other people's emotions. So we talk about protection of your energy field and so yeah, all fascinating stuff. And um, I do also wanted to talk to you. You mentioned it before, but this is something that really fascinates me, and that's the generational ancestral energy that you know, and the patterns that and how important it is for somebody, and you know, well, we're different generations, but somebody in that ancestral chain to do the healing, to do the work, if nothing more, so that you're not passing it up the chain to your children, to your you know, family going upwards, it's it's so important. I find it so fascinating, generational and ancestral energy.

Support Systems And Leaving Toxic Ties

SPEAKER_01 30:15

So I I call it like a perturn. So if you see that your family has a set a set way as a pattern that they use to bring up children or whatever in their lives, or addictions that that they might be struggling with. You can see a person, like what I've explained about a grandfather, and then you're seeing your your son, or you're seeing, or or sometimes it could be all them, it could be most of the men in the family. You know what I mean? That's a clear person that that is a generational trauma that needs to be broken, and so it means that you yourself right now, you need to make that choice of actually, do I want to continue to allow this addiction to hold over me, or can I do something about it? Because I feel like in this day and age, there's no excuse not to heal from any addiction or any trauma because there's so many support, there's so many services out there, and I guess also talking about addiction, I feel like you have to come to the point of realizing that this is a problem. Because a lot of people, Natasha, they don't even think it's a problem, but it you know, most of the time it is a problem, and then that's why it lingers on from the next generation, and the next generation, somebody within that family has to say this is a problem, like you know, we I need to stop, I need to seek help, I need to go to AA, I need to, you know, speak to my GP. How can I? There's so many uh organizations like Change Gore Relief that can support you with that with that addiction. But again, if you don't do it, unfortunately, when you have a child, it might not be your child, but then that your child's child might continue having that. And I always say before starting a family with somebody, talk about this question, ask about these questions. Is there is a family pattern that we are aware of that we that needs to be broken? How is that gonna affect our children when we, you know, have you dealt with? But I feel like if you and your partner have dealt with or are dealing with it by going to therapy, by you know, speaking, there's so many um coaches out there, therapists out there, energy healers out there, like Natasha. There's different people that can actually help you to deal with that. And I would say do not have a child until you and your partner have dealt with all of the traumas that you've been through, because that is part of the um ancestral lineage, and you have to be the one. It might be hard, but you have to be the one. I had to be the one to break the silence of trauma because my family for years they thought being silent is protecting somebody, but it's not.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

So, yeah. Fascinating. And in my case, it was energy. I was just holding um the energy in my energy field, and it was so I went to I had a pain in my hip, and I went to I worked on it, but it just I just couldn't quite clear it up. And I went to an intuitive healer, and she said to me, Do you have a woman in your ancestral line that left her children? And I said, Well, I do actually, my great-grandmother did, and she said, Well, that energy is sitting in your head, and she released it, and there was quite a few layers and other things that came up, and she released it. I never had anything since, and I just thought, isn't that fantastic? And also fascinating that you can just be holding. I wasn't even aware of it until she talked about it, but there's no way she could have known that, that that was my great grandmother. You know, that's um, so it's just fascinating that you can literally just hold the energy of their children in your energy without even, you know, it hadn't sort of I've got children and it hadn't um it hadn't sort of um mirrored her experience or anything like that, but I was holding that energy. You break it.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

You break it by by doing what you did. With me is holding that is holding people's trauma, it became heavy on my shoulders, yes. Um, and then hips as well. Um, I'm still I'm still going through it as well, like the shoulder is slowly releasing, but I feel like there's a lot of work that needs to be done. So maybe we could talk about it afterwards, but I still feel like the the the shoulders and my hips as well, and particularly my my right side of my body, like it feels like there's a lot of tension there, so it's interesting that you're saying that. Um because I feel like nobody for years and years talking about my mother's side and my mother's side, nobody, it's only me.

SPEAKER_00 35:41

Yeah, and it's been fascinating to talk to you, Vivian. It's I have to say though, I don't know if you find this, but it's never ending the work that you can do on yourself. Never it seems to go in a spiral and you come back to the same subject and the same issues, but maybe on a slightly different level.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

And exactly. Yeah, I say that I say that healing is like an onion. There's one piece, there's one layer, and then from that layer we realize there's another layer that you need to deal with before removing the other layer, and you see how onions are so huge, and imagine those layers. So, and I and I and my advice is take your time, there's no race.

Energy Work, Voice, And Owning Power

SPEAKER_00 36:24

Yeah, yeah, it's not it's not a quick fix, is it? It's uh uh uh it's a way of life, really. I think that's what it's all about, but it is so worth it, it is, you know, you do start to feel that you can move through life in a better way, in a more balanced way.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Um, I think exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

In your case, you can go on and help others to do the same, which sounds amazing.

SPEAKER_01 36:53

But I have to be always working on myself. I don't know if you still do that, Natasha, because you have to make sure that you're not going backwards, you have to make sure you're keeping up with the meditation, you have to make sure you're doing the journaling, you're doing the walks, you're taking the I've done my work.

SPEAKER_00 37:14

That's a major red flag. Never done your work, I'm afraid. Never.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

It's never ending, it's literally never ending until we even die, surprisingly enough. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

It is, it is a work in progress, we are all a work in progress. Exactly. Well, it's been amazing to have you on the podcast. Thank you so much. Um, I will put up Vivian's details underneath the episode, and of course, don't forget that the Invisible Girl is um available to pre-order on the 30th of March. So good luck with that. I think it sounds amazing. I will be pre-ordering a copy. Thank you so much. It's my pleasure. So if you've enjoyed listening to us, then please like and share, and you can support the podcast, and you can subscribe as well, and I will do your thing.