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Soul Week, Episode 2: Past Life Regression Regression
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We explore regression as therapy and show how past life memories can emerge as a path to healing now. We outline practical methods, address skepticism with clear outcomes, and stress integration, forgiveness, and proper closure guided by the higher self.
• framing regression as a tool to resolve core emotions
• the model of mind linking body, brain, and spirit
• orienting questions that safely anchor a past scene
• managing intensity with perspective and pacing
• non‑human lives and other worlds as valid contexts
• karma as perspective rather than punishment
• soul groups and recurring roles across lifetimes
• using higher self to extract lessons and release guilt
• closing the life to prevent emotional carryover
• why imagination vs memory matters less than results
• how group regressions are set up and guided
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SPEAKER_02:You probably got the right microphone.
SPEAKER_00:We yeah, I just transferred it to that. I was like, oh mustn't run the right mic. We missed the weather yesterday, just so you know. We were muddled. Muddled muddled about the stuff.
SPEAKER_02:There's no time, no time for weather because we were trying to find a topic. Well, I can just say that it seems like 715 is darker every morning.
SPEAKER_00:It's like it's science or something.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like the world is like in some strange position in space. Yeah, and you know what? A couple hundred years ago, if you'd said that, you'd have been burned at the stake. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:What a great lean-in to today's topic.
SPEAKER_02:The world is always changing. And today you might get burned at the stake if you talk, go around to parties and talk about past life regression.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Or uh you might end up being the most popular person there. It just depends on the kind of party you're at.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. So yesterday we dove into, we thought we were going to talk about past life regression, but we actually sort of set the stage for past life regression by talking about regular life regression.
SPEAKER_02:Good old-fashioned regression.
SPEAKER_00:This life regression. Which I think I I guess, you know, it it turned out just as it needed to turn out. Is maybe needed to understand past life regression a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think that there's a lot. You know, as a hypnotist, we talk about, you know, suggestion, regression, resolution, reframing, reprogramming. These are all words that mean a lot to us for someone who doesn't have the training or the experience, you know, these concepts that we use one word to explain an awful lot. They need to be broken down. And I I didn't feel comfortable talking about past life regression until we really understood sort of the nature of regression and what its therapeutic use is about and how it fits into this big model that I use of you know, event, interpretation, meaning, emotion, and experience. And that that when you start to see the mind that way, all models are wrong. I'll repeat that again and again and again. All models are wrong, some are useful. That's George Ball, the statistician. So we use a model of the mind in hypnosis that, you know, uh certainly there are those that take issue with it as inadequate or somehow incomplete or somehow not materialist enough. The point is that all models are wrong. Even the ones that people are trying to get very, very precisely correct, they too are just based on evidence and data. And and so I think it's good to be flexible in your thinking. And it's flexible, certainly, in your approach to the mind. And so this model of the mind that we use, we have found to be hugely therapeutic. Like it works. It helps people sort things through. It gives a framework to consider what's going on there. Like I said, sometimes I feel like I have clients, and my job is just to teach them that they have a mind and that that mind is got its own abilities and shortcomings.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think we generally get to the point where we think of ourselves as one operating being and to sort of segment it out into body, mind, soul, brain, you know, all the all the little parts of us that have it have their own jobs. And then we mind I sort of associate with soul as well.
SPEAKER_02:But well, you know, we've we've talked about that and we'll talk about it more. Just how you know mind is the gateway to soul, right? And to me, it becomes less about spirit, it's about sort of dividing things into that which is seen and that which is unseen, and then trying to figure out the relationship between forces that we can physically experience and forces that we're sometimes not aware of and aren't able to adequately describe, you know, and that's you know what gives me a lot of comfort is that advanced scientists are moving in that direction. And we and, you know, you never I use the phrase the most unscientific thing you can do is ignore evidence. And and so I think that when you have all this evidence of experience of people, you can't ignore it. And you know, when we work in our our world of hypnosis, we go out of our way to incorporate science whenever we can. Neurobiologists are are uncovering wonderful things about how the body, brain, mind complex operates. And this is really useful stuff for us. A lot of the stuff we've talked about in the podcast comes from that world. But now we're in a world, you know, it's Wednesday, we're having some woo-woo. Um, it's we're talking about a world that is spirit, spirit in the broadest sense of non-physical, spirit in the broadest sense of your nature. You know, this is yeah, I get lots of clients who are resistant to this at first till they go into hypnosis and they pop into a past life and they go, holy crap, wait, wait. No, no, no, wait, wait. I don't wait. Just like this is overwhelming because so many other fundamental beliefs that they walked into the room with, it's not just, oh my God, maybe I was wrong, it's that there is so much more to me than I ever imagined. There is so much more to my existence than I thought possible. And the gateway of my mind into my higher mind, into my higher self, into aspects of this world that a lot of people, you know, today's very popular to talk about manifestation. I don't know how you talk about manifestation without talking about quantum physics. I don't know how you talk about this world without talking about the field. There are so many clear extensions that when you begin to address your mind and you become aware of its depth, you can't but become aware of its connection to the higher mind and all mind and you know the way it creates the world we are in, not just through interpretation, but through anticipation and intention. So for me, I have a hard time separating the mind from the concept of spirituality, but I have a hard time separating the mind from the concept of physical reality. And so to me, it's the conduit that runs through all of it. And now when I think about the mind, I'm not thinking about something abstract. When I think about spirituality, I'm not thinking about something abstract. I'm seeing it all as very, very integrated. And I see that not only from my own experience, but I see it from the experience of my clients. So long way to say, you know, mind is spirit, spirit is mind. Physical reality flows from mind.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then I say things like it's all about mind, and people look at me funny at parties.
SPEAKER_00:Did you say it last night?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So yeah, sorry for the babble. So we understand regression as a therapeutic model, right? It's a therapeutic methodology to access the aspects of the mind that are problematic, you know, in whatever way is unique to that client, it flows from the way they've interpreted their experience in the past.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And that creates beliefs. And those are they those tend to be the structures that our job is focused on, changing beliefs. So when you take somebody in the chair who's having a particular problem and you regress on it, and then they go, Wait, I'm a man. Or wait, I'm I'm in the in the wild, wild west.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Talk about that.
SPEAKER_00:Well, yeah. So sometimes they they perceive it as a past life, but it sometimes they don't, right? Sometimes they're somewhere, they go somewhere and they're thinking, what's going on here? Like, and it's it's at that moment where I have to kick in and start to do past life, like asking them about past life stuff without them knowing I'm asking about past life stuff. Because sometimes you have someone, and maybe you don't know if they're even into past lives. If they even I had I had someone a few weeks ago that popped into a past life, and we just treated it like it was this life, but it wasn't. And I didn't even say the word past life. And I was expecting them to come back and ask about it, but they didn't. They just went along with it. I think it's all therapeutic, like you said, right? Wherever you go, whether it's this life or a past life, there's um there's a therapeutic nature to it if you treat it in a therapeutic sense. So number one, if they if they go back and and they know they're like, oh, this is a past life, yay. I was hoping to go, which does happen. Then we we kick into past life mode, right? We I ask things like what's around you, what's on your feet, what's what's going on. I do you feel like a man or a woman or other? Do you uh what are you doing there? You know, what's going on? Do you feel old? Do you feel young? Do you feel middle-aged? Do you feel healthy? Do you feel sick? All the stuff.
SPEAKER_02:Um that process of questioning. So they get there because you ask them to go back to where the problem began.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then bam, they're in some, you know, whole new reality. Um, and then you flesh it out, and asking them all these questions really locks them into it, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. You want them to anchor into it, right? Depending. You yeah, you want them to anchor into it. If they're brand new to it, you don't anchor as fast. Right? You don't go, all right, you're there. Like, let's flesh this out. Go to a past, you know. But yeah, you ask the questions in order to have their mind bring, bring them what's actually going on there. And uh you can drop into a day that is pretty benign. I was telling Les before we started the podcast, for my past life when I've gone to past lives, I never seem to drop into just a random day in the life that meant a lot. I always end up on the last day of my life for all the past lives. Well, not all the past lives. I haven't had that many, surprisingly, but like that many regressions. But yeah, you you go to a random day, you go to the last day, sometimes it's benign, sometimes you drop in and you're like in the middle of a war. And so you have to deal with that, right? Yeah, I'm gonna get ahead of myself. So bring bring me back. Sometimes it can be very emotional, and you have to go through that with the client. If you pop into something that like a war, you want to have them up out of the body looking down to witness it, right? Instead of being part of it. Yeah. I mean, there's so many, so many different music.
SPEAKER_02:Well, they can pop into just about anything.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But the point is, is that you're there working on them for uh working with them, working on their particular belief or inhibition or or inability to do what they want to do, or and you're working on that, and it's emotional because well, they wouldn't be here if they weren't upset about the fact that they're not getting what they want. They're not being who they want to be, they're not having what they want to have. And then they go back into this massive change of context.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Right? It's like it's not just, it's not just that they're, oh, this is a different life, right? It the the it's everything about that life. It can be their gender, it can be their station in life, it can be uh into a very problematic circumstance because it's not a good emotion you're tracking backwards. So they're going back into that emotion, and so you're tracking probably into a different difficult situation. It's not surprising that it's often life-threatening.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, and so this is and and so they almost, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say this because it was my experience being regressed, and it's been my experience regressing people. It is such a dramatically different mind they find themselves in. Right. This is a mind that isn't the one that they live in every day. This is a new kind of mind. And so there's lots of awareness. The extent to which they go right into it and begin to relive it can create, yeah, can create reactions you're gonna have to respond to. And as a hypnotist, you've got to keep things at a level where you can work on on what's going on, reconsider it, rethink it, reinterpret it. And it can be, you know, it's something to manage because when it's done that therapeutic way, it can be as big a surprise to the hypnotist as anybody. The hypnotist can go, oh, okay, wait a second. And now a whole new set of considerations kicks in, right? Because now, if we've been using timeline methodology or we've been using an emotional affect bridge, you know, we're not within the context of the life that we know the client in. We're now outside that context in another life. And so the methodologies of regression in terms of the techniques we're going to use to resolve these things, yeah, they they have to expand and they have to be more considerate and they have to be a bit slower. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I was just thinking about when someone pops into a past life where they don't I I don't know if they're into past lives. They uh I don't uh we've never spoken about it before. I won't ask the questions like, are you male or female or other are you, you know, those kind of questions. What I'll do is gently say, Okay, project your consciousness outside of the body and look back at yourself. Is that you? Yes, no, no. Okay. Mind goes back in the body. What's going on there? I don't go, oh my god, you're in a past life, right? I don't call it out. I treat it like nothing has happened, right? Nothing weird or wonderful has happened. So that doesn't jog the conscious mind to go, wait a minute, and stop the process or whatever, you know. And there's always a reason. I just put that directly into my mind. I'm like, okay, there's a reason they're here, there's a reason they're going through this, and that's my objective, right? Is to find out that reason with them for them so that they can feel better.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's just the same basic reason as if they were to regress to some day in this life, yeah, that they're living. It's about helping them resolve an unresolved emotion.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Which is obviously intense.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It implies, I think, that in our deepest mind, although we we tend to forget, in our deepest mind, there's an awareness of our nature and the this idea that we have multiple physical life experiences. And sometimes those physical life experiences are not just in different times. Sometimes they're in different dimensions, sometimes they're in different planets. Yeah. And that that that requires the hypnotist to be really patient and not. I think it's important to realize that the question the hypnotist asks are going to be based on their understanding. And they're still going to be therapeutically targeted, but it's based on their understanding of physical reality and and life. And so when a client ends up on a in a situation where they're in, I don't know any other way to say it at this point, an alien being's body, right? They find themselves in a in an environment that doesn't match earthly conditions. And they find themselves with skills and abilities that they don't have. You know, how do you deal with that?
SPEAKER_00:Not much different than a past life on earth. It is a little bit of more getting used to. I haven't found that people drop in are are fearful. You would imagine that they would be, because they're now maybe looking at their hands and seeing, you know, three long fingers, you know. But uh yeah, and a different body and head and everything. I haven't found them to be scared of it. I've seen them go, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, like, wow, wow, this is so weird, you know, that kind of stuff. Even with the as the government is calling them now, NHIs and non-human intelligence, even when they drop into alien bodies that have been stereotyped in our culture as as scary, like grays, they're quite they're fascinated with it. And there's a there's a deeper knowledge that comes about about what the grays are actually up to, you know, and that they're not the scary they're they're actually quite functional, you know, and they may have a different vibration to us that our bodies have a have a difficult time acclimatizing to if one. Is in the room, right? But they're not, you know, out to get you or anything like that. Not not from my not from what's happened in past life regressions. Some regressions have taken people to planets of complete water, where they're I'm gonna say the word mermaid, but not in the you know, little mermaid Disney sense. These are these are mermaids that have very long, like spindly tails, their noses are very long. They're they're beautiful, but like in wow, that's a creature, right? That's an interesting-looking creature, very community-based. Some people have gone to forests where the trees are very, very high, and there's uh giants. You're a giant that can fly, and you use the treetops to get around. There's been alien lives where they go to ships where, interestingly enough, they are deciding to have a earth life, and they're sort of putting their alien life on hold to go have the earth life to help the planet, as we hear a lot nowadays, raising the vibration of the planet, and then go back to their life as an alien. So so many, so many different kinds of I mean, it's endless.
SPEAKER_02:It's hard as a hypnotist. For me, it's hard to control my own curiosity, right? When when somebody's in one of these experiences, you know, I always ask permission. I always ask permission, can I ask some questions out of my interest, please? And then I get told yes or no. Usually I get told yes, but I have been told no once. And and then I minded my own business. But the the point is that this is very this is very expansive as a hypnotist. And you've been very intentional about this. I mean, you've basically had the desire to have clients like that.
SPEAKER_00:To go to other planets?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, to go to other planets, to have clients that have lives that are that are non-human life oriented, to take clients into regressions that they discover these things. This is something that you have a particular interest in and therefore a tendency to be open to, and you make it clear to people that you want to do that, and that draws people to you that want that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, well, most of the interviews, if you look my name up on YouTube, you'll see some crazy stuff. But most all of the interviews that I do are about the the interviewee, your interviewer wants their people to hear about the interesting lives like non-human intelligence. And so I end up speaking a lot on it, and so that's why people reach out specifically for it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, uh doing past life, doing regression that results in a past life, um, the the contexts can be very diverse. They can also be very simple, but they can be really, really diverse with a lot of conditions. And yeah, as a hypnotist, you've gotta you've gotta come at it, you've gotta essentially instantaneously shift gears into a broader perspective.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:The more you do it, the broader your perspective becomes. There's some basic things we always do when we go to past lives. First of all, we have them understand it, but they've gone back to a critical moment. So one of the techniques I use a lot is just we're gonna go back five minutes. You've now come into this moment where you have an emotional bridge to this moment, but let's go back five minutes now, before that emotion arose, so that you can have a clearer picture. And then there's there's you know, little techniques, you know. If you're exactly sometimes if you say, What's your name? They're not able to answer that. But you know, you do little simple things like there's somebody across the way calling to you. What's what's the name they're using? Right. And then who's that person? Do you have any connection to them in this life? And that's that's very common, right? For them to say, Oh, that's Bill. But it's not Bill, it's it's it's Mary. Yeah, and this time Bill's my sister. And and it really creates you you want them to settle into it so that they can experience the the the moment of learning and changing so they can experience with an understanding of why it might have mattered so much in that lifetime, that it doesn't might not matter so much in this lifetime.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And if you think of I'm always thinking about what, you know, people listening to us, maybe their questions. So if you're wondering, well, how do I know it's Bill? Or how do I know it's Mary? You think about people in your life, they have an energy, right? You can if you just think of them, if they were maybe standing next to you, you would feel that you would just know inherently somewhere in your body, mind, spirit. And so when you go into a past life, wherever you go, I'll say, do you recognize that energy from that that person's energy from the life you're living now as so-and-so? And sometimes it's no, sometimes it's yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:This sort of leads us to sort of karmic things that I think is important to acknowledge. You know, you can be very, very close to somebody in this life, and then go to a past life. And this this is can be why it's problematic. Go to a past life, and that person was antagonistic to you. So that person, that energy, that that that soul, they might have played a role for you that was antagonistic. And then in this life, they're playing a role for you that is really quite loving and supportive. And that can cause issues because that's when you're in this life and you've got all this loving support from somebody that your past life is suggesting you shouldn't trust. And it's causing sort of interference or difficulty. And this is why I think, you know, thinking about karma for a second is is really worth it. When you think about past life and you think about reincarnation, you know, there's this concept of karma, and some people see karma as very judgmental. And what I've learned from clients, and I've learned from my own past life experiences, is that karma is completely and totally about awareness and understanding. It's about understanding the ramifications of your actions in all dimensions, all possible dimensions. And so it's it's not about, well, you know, uh, I think when you approach it this way and you speak of it this way with your clients, and I've had to, I can remember two occasions where I had to quite literally have a client in the chair in a past life crying and explain a little bit about karma so that they can get comfortable with the idea because it can create a lot of confusion, right? When you're thinking as a as a di uh as a today person suddenly being exposed without warning about a past life and experiencing that this person that you love in this life is doing something awful.
SPEAKER_00:Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And you're like, oh, it it's important to sort of put a context on that and say that this is, you know, this is one of a thousand lives you're gonna live. Karma means you're fulfilling the experience. And so the way I simplify it, because this is the way it was shown to me, is that if you're the actor, the person who did the thing, you're gonna have to be basically three more types of roles multiple times till you learn the lesson. If I'm the one who did it, then sometime I'm gonna have to be the one that has it done done to them. I'm gonna have to live lives to experience from the, I'm gonna use the word, I don't like the word, but from the victim point of view. Then I've also got to learn the experience from the person who loves the perpetrator, right? Imagine that you're the mother of a murderer, right? Like, what's that about? You love this person and they've done something horrendous. And you have to be someone who experienced, who loves the victim. You know, you're the mother of the murdered victim, whatever. Now you've got to experience it from watching, loving the person who's going through that. And then there's all the variations of that, but those are the four big perspectives. It's that I I did it, I had it done to me, I love the person who did it, and how does that feel? And I love the person who had it done to them, and how does that feel? And these are four very different perspectives that the the general rules of acquiring the knowledge and experience are going to require that you take on, that you go through in lifetimes of those different perspectives. And one of the other things I like to point out is that, you know, when you do past life regression that will lead us to talking more about life between lives, you have to acknowledge that you tend to be associated with the same group of souls, and you're going to come into these lives. You know, it's like having a really great cast on Saturday Night Live, and they play different characters every week, and they play different things, and it's it's kind of like that. You are you're part of a group, a cast who play different roles for each other through different lifetime experiences. And so that that makes it easier to understand why, you know, Bill is now Mary and has been, you know, Steve and Joanne in so many different lives in my experience. And sometimes, you know, we're married, and sometimes we're siblings, and sometimes we're parents to each other, you know, these kinds of things. We play different kinds of roles, helping each other flesh out. And so, yeah, it just brings me to the idea that all of these lives are compiling for you as a soul a set of experience, a set of knowledge, a set of insights, a set of understandings. And when you end up in a past life, it's generally because something didn't get resolved there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And it's interfering with what you're here to do, what you're in this life to experience, to accomplish, to go through. And that's why your subconscious mind will send you back there. That's why when we're trying to have therapy, so in the end, what's important is although it's very fascinating, all these ideas for past lives, all these different things you must have already done. And it's it's incredibly engaging, you gotta remember that all of it is being pursued and experienced to help you in this life.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's meant to help you here and now.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Yeah. And I I have a lot of people, well, almost almost everyone who reaches out to me about having a past life or life between at some point or other before the repression, they ask, you know, what if I'm just making this out? Like, what if is it real? I don't know. Like and and I explain to them how well, number one, like we'll never we'll we won't know until we know, right? In the end. Well, the end I use loosely, but you know what I mean. We we won't know exactly, but no matter what, it's therapeutic, right? And I explain to them, you know, think of dreams at night. It's your subconscious mind resolving things. Whatever comes to you in this in this regression is about resolving something, and it it seems to work, right? It's like it's not a cure, but it's it's along the journey of of doing what you're wanting to do. And then I tell them about how people tend to want to go somewhere, and then they end up somewhere totally different, right? So just to give an easy example, it's what it's one of my favorite examples. It's very simple, but it happened years ago. This person came to me and said, I want to be, or no, not I want to be. I think I was like in the Victorian age. I just love the poofy dresses and all this stuff. And I I was nodding and saying, Yeah, okay, okay, we'll see where we go. And she ended up being a farming man, you know, very different. So if it was them making it up, we probably would have gone to the poofy dresses in the Victorian age, right? And so they were, they were like, what the heck when they got there. Fascinating. But out of the billions, infinite experiences that you could have, why would you make that up? You know? And so that they understand that and and they try it out.
SPEAKER_02:And it's often, you know, if you're using your imagination, it it's often complicated and has some negative aspects to it. And you it they tend to be the things we're most aware of, the negative aspects of our lives. So when they go back to a prior life and they're experiencing some negative things, you know, like why would you make that up? Right? Um, for me, when I when it happened to me when 20 odd years ago when I was having my set of six hypnosis, first hypnosis experiences, I I went back three times in those sessions to three different prior lives. And, you know, love goes up to Peggy, she was my hypnotist, she was also my teacher, and she guided me through those. What I'd say to people when, you know, when close friends would say, Wow, what happened? I'd say, if you try to imagine, you know, pink puffy clouds in the sky, right? Then your mind goes one place. And when you try to remember what the weather was yesterday, your mind goes to a different place. You can be aware that your imagination is in a different part of your mind. And when I had those experiences, it felt like I was remembering something that I had forgotten. That's the way it felt to me. And that's the way I try to describe it. And, you know, since often it happens with an emotional bridge, right? That that affect bridge that takes you back to the first time you had that emotion. That emotion is very dominant when you get there. And that that probably negative emotion is what's locking you into that past event. And that past event, those kinds of emotions are felt head to toe, right? And so, you know, you you'll have a sense when you have this experience, you'll have a sense of a very strong emotion, and you'll have a sense that this is something that you've long forgotten coming back to you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And yeah, that's the way it was said to me. If you were gonna make something up, why that?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we've got a good question in the chat, which I'm such a big proponent of. Like when we regress and remember a different life, will we keep these memories and remember the lessons? So I'm gonna speak about what I do as a hypnotist. I know that a lot of my clients have gone through regressions where this didn't happen, but I'm just gonna speak from my point of view. It's very important. And yes, uh, yes, you you you keep the memories. I mean, when I was thinking this morning about my past life regressions, they're certainly not as like uh in my mind as they were the day after. They're sort of faded, and I have to really try to remember. But anyway, as the hypnotist, you want to make sure that the lessons are understood. There's always, always wisdom to the situation. They're they are back there for a reason, and the lesson is is very important as the takeaway. And it's incredibly important to close off the life so it doesn't come dragging into this life that you're living now. It's very important that as you're wrapping up the session or you know, as you're going through the session, really, you are learn that that you're helping the client learn the lesson, understand what they're meant, uh what they're there for. And if it's something like shame or guilt or something that could influence the life that they're living now, it's really extra important to make sure that they understand it from the soul perspective, which we will talk maybe tomorrow. We'll talk about the life between lives and how that how that works. So closing off the life is going through the life, understanding little lessons, you know, a mixture of lessons and awe, and then finding yourself with the client at the end of that person's life, gently transitioning right into the afterlife, and really looking back on the life, understanding the parallels between that life and the life they're living now. Lessons again, forgiveness is big. Knowing that we've all been the good butt guy, the bad guy, you know, the neutral person. We've all, if past lives are what we imagine them to be, or what we think them to be, we've been everybody, right? The good, bad, and the ugly. So to know that and to forgive yourself for that and to know that it is a soul's journey, this is really important, really important, because we do not want someone to go through a past life and not have it clos, you know, not have it closed off properly, not learn the lessons or understand what was going on there and drag those emotions into the life they're living now.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well said. There's only two things I'd add. The first thing that I'd add is that I tend when I do this kind of stuff, when I do regression, I tend to use the higher self as the companion as we go back. And the good news about using the higher self is that the higher self has a Understanding of all these lifetimes and is quick to answer questions like, What is the lesson to be learned here? You know, how should they deal with this? And almost always, you know, the lesson is your innocence and that you can forgive this and that you can release this, and that, you know, it was just an experience for your growth, and not every experience is going to be, you know, fun. So that's the first thing I'd add. I guess the second thing I'd add is that from my own experience, and I prepare my clients after the session when they've had something like this, I say it's okay to allow yourself to have more awareness of this past life come back into your mind. It's kind of nice. It'll help you understand the context better, help you understand what you went through better. And it just happens. It just happens. You know, you go through the past life regression, and you know, you're guided by a hypnotist, and you remember certain things, and things become clearer. And then later, when you pause and think about it, you find the energies and the and uh it becomes a more detailed awareness of what that life was, uh a greater understanding. And that's kind of fun, that's kind of neat. And I think that's really good to remind you of the context that you're in now. That what happened in a past life is you know, that's what you're doing now. You're living another life to amass knowledge and it puts a perspective on things, gives you an awareness that you are more than this body, you are more than this personality that you've created right now. And so I think there's nothing wrong with that stuff coming to you. No, it's kind of fun, it kind of fleshes out the experience of the past life in a more holistic way, and then bring yourself back to that. Well, all of that was to help me do better in this life.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess uh yeah, I get emotional about it, uh, as you can maybe tell in my voice while I was talking about it. I guess I've just seen so many clients that have had bad experiences with another hypnotist and have carried it forward. So I'm really I don't know what the word is. Passionate. I'm passionate about making sure that people people know that, you know, when you go through a past life, maybe even ask, uh, well, I don't know. The hypnotist might not know the the verbiage of closing off the life, but just to ask, maybe like, am I gonna learn lessons from this? Am I gonna uh let go of emotions? Am I gonna, you know, understand it in relation to the life I'm living now? So maybe ask those kinds of questions before you have a regression with somebody.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's important to remember the therapy part of hypnotherapy and that regression is a technique we use for therapy. And there are different conditions when that regression takes you to a what we refer to as a past life.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But it's always there for the therapeutic reasons. I I guess you know, there's ways we use uh past life regression in a non-therapeutic way. I think we can talk about them relatively easily. You can have a client that says, I just want to go back to a past life. So when I was training in past lives, we were deliberately taking each other into past lives. And what was really useful to me again, I had Pettig as as my teacher. She was teaching, and she liked using me as a subject because just the sound of her voice puts me in a trance.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it goes easy.
SPEAKER_02:And so she liked working with me because she didn't have to waste a lot of time on the induction, and she could she could get that the process started. And during that course, when she would use me, she would just simply create the context that we're going to go into a past life, that an awareness of that life is useful in this life.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And and that's where she took me a few times. And those experiences were very good because they weren't being, I wasn't being regressed into an emotionally charged situation. I was being regressed into basically what my subconscious mind thought would be valuable for me to be aware of to that moment in that person's life. And that's the technique you can use when somebody says, I just want to have a past life regression. You know, quite simply you create the intention because it you've heard me say it a million times. It's all about intention. Whatever your intention is, you set that intention and you will create that. So if you're doing it for fun.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, some people just want to have fun and check it out, they say. I just want to check it out. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And then there's group stuff. Want to talk about that quick? We're almost done.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. So group stuff for a hypnotist, it's a little different, right? Because you have it's not custom, you can't really know what's happening for each individual person. And but it still can be quite therapeutic for each person individually in its own way. As the hypnotists, you really have to let go of worrying about who who's going through what or if something's coming to somebody, or because you can get caught up in your mind about, well, I I hope that everybody's having an experience. Everybody's experience is going to be very different. And I remember a regression where a few people saw things, another person had this very much a connection to their higher self while they were going through it. Another person just felt like lights were around them. You have to, as the hypnotist, give a little bit more context to people before the regression. Like whatever comes to you, just go with it. Even if you hear me as the hypnotist saying, what's on your feet or what's around you, what's there, even if nothing comes to you, just keep going with the experience. Just allow yourself to be wherever you are. Doesn't matter where you are, just allow yourself to continue with the experience. And I so I remember one person after a group regression just saying, I'm sorry, I went off like on my own somewhere. That's wonderful, right? It's to each their own. Everyone's gonna have a different experience. So it's definitely not customized. And so it's it's kind of interesting. It's it's definitely a learning curve for as a hypnotist to do a group regression. And I think throughout the regression, you you still say to people, you know, notice the lessons that might be here, right? Send forgiveness to yourself and others if need be. Uh things like that. Is that what you meant? Yeah. Okay.
unknown:Great.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Any final thoughts or comments?
SPEAKER_00:Any questions? Are you going to be offering this opportunity? Do you mean like a group regression or teaching past life regression? We're gonna do both, but will a group regression be offered on school? Yes. So I think that's going to be now that December is a little busy and we're almost at the end of it, it's going to be offered in the January month. So if you're on school, we're gonna pick a day and yeah, it'll be in the calendar. Thank you for asking that. So that's it for today. Tomorrow, if it's okay to jump ahead like this, tomorrow, because I think it's important, is we'll we'll sort of slide into the end of a past life, transitioning, and doing the life between contracts, all that kind of stuff, higher self stuff. Does that sound good? Perfect. All right, have a good day, everyone, and we'll see you later.