Life Between Lives Places: Pre-Birth Planning & More - Part 5

We keep going with our life between lives conversation, focusing on where souls “go” and why those places can look wildly different from person to person. We also dig into planning, learning, and why the bigger message people bring back is peace and a sense that things are going to be okay.
• how life between lives settings can be functional and also shaped by comfort and creativity
• why some people start in space or on other planets instead of going into light
• how the higher self brings what we can handle and why the experience feels normal
• why people rarely feel fear and how overthinking can create frustration
• what the pre birth planning place is and how souls choose milestones and relationships
• whether a lifetime can be “just for the experience” and what a resting lifetime means
• why time may be a human construct and how the soul can hold multiple focus points
• why this era supports spiritual openness and letting go of old fear patterns
• the council as support for self judgment and the library as the Akashic Records
• book recommendations and why hypnosis is a tool for focus

Transcript

Weather Talk And Settling In

SPEAKER_01 0:10

We are online.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

It's just beautiful. It's just gonna get warm today. And then it's gonna rain like a lot.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Like the Dickens.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Like we should build an arc.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

It's gonna rain like crazy. But before that, we're gonna have like almost a whole day of beautiful time.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

Yeah. Yeah. Today's probably the nicest day that we've had thus far.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Yeah, the dock is in, canopy's up. I may end up on the deck for most of the day. In a park, but out on the deck.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Better put the boat in. No, we can't do that yet because it could go down to freezing, and that wouldn't be good for it. But it's coming. It's coming.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Anytime now.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Anytime now.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

Les gets to sit outside all day. I'm inside working.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

It's very important that she works.

Why We Are Continuing

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Oh my. So uh yeah, we're sort of carrying on our conversation from last week. We're not exactly sure where to pick it up, but we're gonna again muddle through today.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

And well, there were just some final things you wanted to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

Yes, but I know us, and I know we won't get to everything, and that's okay. We did answer the questions. That's what's most important. So we answered the questions that were in the group last week, and I just yeah, I want to go over some of the fun, I don't know, fun places we go to in life between lives, and maybe just uh uh giving a couple examples that I can give from where people have gone. So I want to sort of cover uh if we get to it, the pre-birth planning place, the council, some favorite places that people like to go to, and the library. Now, those are the most words. Oh my gosh, my brain. Common, common, thank you. Yeah, honestly, common places that people go to. But of course, when someone goes to the life between lives, I've had people that oh my god, go to just float in space. That's where we go first. They're expecting to go into light, but then they end up in space and they're just floating there with their guide. Some people wind up immediately on other planets, some people end up immediately on like a platform or a I I know this is gonna sound a little out there, but some people wind up on platforms or ships and are deciding to come to Earth. That's always fun. So all kinds of life between lives places that uh that they go to.

The Other Side Has Many Settings

SPEAKER_00 3:16

I think that what's important to to create a context. We there are places on the other side that we can all experience, uh, and they relate to a kind of a function, a function of what we're doing, oftentimes relative to incarnating, but often a reflection or consideration of the learning from past incarnations. And then some of the other sort of surroundings that we might find ourselves in, that's much more a function of our own creative ability. There are those who are predisposed to be in gardens or beaches, and there are those that are predisposed to be in space on a spaceship. I think Hillary is predisposed to draw people who have connection to the broader universe. And you know, the depending on what you think that is, will determine, you know, how you how you perceive that. But I think that Hillary has the the predisposition, that the interest and the desire to know and be and and experience more of that which is the broader universe. And I think that she has clients that are drawn to her for that reason, and then they experience that. You'll have clients that just experience just uh like a massive dark city with nothing but lights in it, and and that's maybe more of what their past experience is. There'll be those who are really comfortable creating uh rooms or scenes where they can be to experience the interactiveness of the other side. So I think that there are functional places that we go because they serve a purpose and we all use them in our quest to have new incarnations and can reconsider past incarnations. And I think the surroundings, the way they look, is very much one of your own mental predispositions and your own creativity. And and you know, what I've come to understand is that on the other side, we have trust in our capacity to create those surroundings and experience the surroundings that we enjoy, including the way we present ourselves. Right? You know, one of the things that has been surprising to me in the process of getting to know my guides is that, you know, they present themselves to me in an almost of a caricature way. Now, deep down I know that they are beings of light, but they present themselves to me in very, very clear costume. And I believe that that's a function of maybe our past experiences together, my past experiences and past lives, comfort in terms of the role they play. Anyway, uh I think that there's a lot of creativity in terms of setting and set. There's a lot of creativity there, and the door is open for our own mind to make that. So don't think that you will necessarily go to space or not go to space. It will be much more about your own predispositions and comforts, and that you know it's it's very much uh uh potential, it's a void of sorts, filled with potential, that you have the infinite capacity to create within. So if you're one of those that's predisposed to think of the universe in a broader way, yeah, it's not surprising that you might find yourself out in space or on a planet or on a spaceship or surrounded by beings that appear to be, you know, of non non-Earth origin, non-earth habitation.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

But uh, but I just wanted to put that broader context. It is the context that you will create that suits you and brings you comfort and reflects your perspectives.

Why It Feels Safe And Familiar

SPEAKER_01 8:00

Yeah, yeah. And and I think uh I'm I'm a believer of this, I suppose, just from conducting so many sessions like this, but I believe that our higher self, our beingness, our soul, all one really knows what we're about to experience and go through. So it it naturally brings us what we're comfortable with, number one, what we need to release uh throughout the session, and and and what we're meant to learn in that session. You know, when people go to, like I had someone the other day go to a life where they were a being on another planet and they were sort of logging information from their earthly lives or their lives around the system. And and and they did not freak out when they looked down and they had three fingers on each hand, you know. So it's we're brought what we can handle. And because it feels so normal and natural in the life between lives, you just feel like you're at home. You just feel like, yeah, of course. It was hilarious because they had a ton of they had questions, but then they got there and they knew everything already. Which is another thing that happens in life between lives, is is yes, we come with questions, but oftentimes either you know the answer already, because when you're in that light or uh space or wherever you go, there's sort of this all-knowing feeling, like you can just naturally not for everybody, but like at first, but you can naturally get a sense of why things are happening from a greater from a higher perspective, a greater, more rounded perspective. And yeah, that that's sort of what comes through in that.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

So well, what I would just add is that nobody ever goes over there and gets scared. Nobody ever goes over there and has a negative experience. There are those who get frustrated because they can't seem to settle into the experience.

SPEAKER_02 10:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

And that's just conscious mind activity, right? When you start, you know, think of it as you're living your life in your body, and you've established through your programming and your upbringing and and all of that, a specific context that you're living in, who you are, what you are, what the world is. And now you've stepped into something that shows a lot of that to be simplistic and untrue. And then you start thinking about it. Well, what you know, like what does this mean? And when you start thinking about it, you start to actually you can find yourself pulling out of it. Because you're pulling into your your earthly mind and you're saying, okay, you know, what what does this mean? And so sometimes they don't they don't lock into the experience because they're staying very intellectual about it, and they get very frustrated because they're coming up and down in and out. But that and that's that's probably the most when it comes to unpleasantness that anyone can experience in this. Uh, there's not a lot of I don't know of any fear. I've never seen anybody have fear. I've seen people have curiosity, and yes, I've seen them on the opposite hand lock right into it and become who they are on the other side. So I've seen that too. But I want to just be really clear. Not, you know, there's there's no fear here.

Pre Birth Planning And Life Purpose

SPEAKER_01 11:59

Yeah. And, you know, we can go all over once we're there. And uh provided we're not floating out in space or on another planet or something like that. If we go into the light and have guides helping us, we can visit these things like pre-birth planning place and keep in mind these are human terms. And I've been told a few times that in session that you know uh these places don't have names per se, but they are just places of vibration. And when you when we're over there, it's uh and you hear this with near-death experiences too, when they're floating around, is all they have to do is really think and they are somewhere, right? And so if you think about the pre-birth planning place, then that's where you go, let's say. If you think about the council, that's where you go. And it's for the most part instantaneous as soon as you give it thought. So the pre-birth planning place is yeah, a place where you decide on this life. And there's a question in the chat that I'm gonna weave into this. So we decide on this life, and in deciding in the life, on the life, you in a way gather milestones, challenges, lessons, other souls can be there planning the life with you. Your guides are there usually, and you're sort of weaving this life, coming up with this life. So, to answer this question here, do you think we can come into a human life just for the experience? Do we always have a big reason or lessons to learn? I it's an interesting question because the answer came just the other day. Uh, I probably would have answered this differently last week, maybe like before last week. So I'm gonna say now that sometimes we just come here for the experience. We don't always have these big reasons and lessons. Sometimes it is just to have a life. Maybe that's a relaxing life, or maybe that's a life where we there's there's sort of this catalyst that happens, and in that in that moment, we make a decision to maybe be a light for others or or shake up our life, but it doesn't always mean that we're like learning a specific lesson or or there's a big reason or things like that. On the other hand, I this has come through a number of times over the last month. It's funny how my sessions are interesting. I I'm finding them interesting because like the lessons are sort of clumped in. So say I have like five sessions in a week. For some reason, I mean, these people don't know each other, but for some reason the lessons are like kind of clumped together. What pe people are all learning the same thing, or or the same sort of things come through. So sometimes we're coming here to the life to learn big things, learn little things. I think we're all always learning something, but it doesn't have to be monstrous. Also, there's something in my mind that just keeps coming in, but uh keeps flowing out right away. Les, can you uh talk for a moment while I get this in my head and write it down?

Resting Lifetimes And Softer Learning

SPEAKER_00 15:56

Um, it's been said to me, you know, that you can have what's called a resting lifetime. You know, it's it's been said to me that you don't you can never not learn from an incarnation. But sometimes it's more consolidation of past learning or learning that's revisited through new experiences. Sometimes karma is experienced not as a direct participant. Sometimes karma is, you know, part of the learning of karma is observation and and watching those that are affected by those kinds of actions. So there's lots of let's use less intense, less painful ways to have a lifetime that don't require that you engage, you know, monumental learning. And that might be experienced, yeah, in that form of kind of a the phrase was given to me, resting lifetime. So yeah, I think that there are there are times when we're ready for a big lesson, and there are times when we need to consolidate what we've learned, and there are times when we're just going to be present to the the goings-on on the planet, because the planet is particularly what's the right word, it's very active, and there can be really broad sweeping shifts, like people speak of that we're going through now. And some people just want to be present to that, just want to, what's it like to be an observer of that? Absolutely. Your your lifetime goals are a collaboration in many respects with your group, the the masters that are teaching you, the the you know, we often use the phrase council that are there trying to manage on a larger level. Anyway, absolutely, you don't have to have every single lifetime knocking the crap out of you.

No Time And Many Focus Points

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Yeah. I did remember what was coming to me. So I want you to consider, and I I even I have a hard time wrapping my mind around this, but consider that there is no time. Time is a human construct, and that our point of focus from a soul perspective is wherever we want to have our focus. So right now our focus is on this body, this lifetime. But as I've found out through sessions, is we can have as a as a higher self or over soul, we can have many points of focus at the same time. So what has come through a number of times recently, again, like I don't I don't prompt them to say this, okay? So just keep that in mind, is that we have prepped through many past lives for this life right here, right now, that we're listening to and we're we're listening to, we're focused on specifically. So does that make sense? So we we have lived many past lives, and we have built up some karma, we've built up in our past lives experiences and abilities, even that we are meant to apply to this life. So it's like we built them up in past lives so that we could come to this life in this time period, in this moment, and apply them to this life specifically. And I guess what that insinuates, if that's the right word, is that we knew that this lifetime was coming. And this is supposed to be apparently a really important life for people. Time period, I should say. Yeah. What do you think of that, Les?

SPEAKER_00 20:29

Yeah, I think there's a big picture. And there are and to think of yourself as an aspect of the whole, to think of yourself as a an aspect of creation that has, you know, I I love the analogy of a big 10,000-piece puzzle, right? We are an important part of the whole thing, and we each are playing the roles and going through the growth and going through the changes, going through the realizations, and that there will be lifetimes that are short, lifetimes that are long. There will be lifetimes that are intense, there will be lifetimes that seem easier, there will be lifetimes in places where we are well liked, and there will be, you know, lifetimes where we feel like we're in enemy territory. There's going to be lifetimes that are very, very specific in their learning, and there will be lifetimes that are going to be more broad. And when we trust and when we allow, and when we follow the encouragement of guides and masters and counsels, things come together. So yeah, there's value in seeing your incarnations as a complex compounding thing. And that no single one defines you, and no single one can take you off track. They're all part of a bigger picture. So with that said, you know, most people when they go into a life-between live session, one of the things they re they they report back always is sort of a sense of peace, sense of everything's going to be okay.

Being Spiritual Without Old Fears

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Yeah. And I do think like I think we live besides maybe thousands of years, like thousands of years ago, where we were really, I think, into spirit. And if someone had a dream and they they know they talked about the dream that was really important to the community, right? Like a nighttime dream I'm talking about, or a vision quest or something like that. But I want you to consider that we live in a life, we live in a time period right now where we can be healers, we can be out-of-the-box thinkers, we can be spiritual thinkers, we can see ourselves and talk about it just as we are as spirit and as something greater than this body without being hunted or burned or you know, all those things. And the only thing that we're struggling with now, and I see a lot of clients for this, is that that old memory of being fearful of all that stuff, right? Of speaking up, of being into magic and spirit and healing. And excuse me, so this is really, I mean, you were born into the perfect time period to be able to really expand these abilities without being burnt. Let's say, I know there were many other things, but burned comes to mind. Yeah, we are limitless, just like in the chat. Yes, my guides are continually, continually telling me to let go of the rules. Humans love rules, but all our limits and close our minds to seeing the truth of our limitlessness. Yeah. So I think it's yeah, it is important to let go of those fears because we don't live in that time period anymore. We can be at our expanded selves. We can channel. I mean, if you turn on, if your algorithm is like ours, like Les and I, we turn on the TV and we see channelers, we see NDEs, we see healers, we see lots of different things in terms of spirituality. And I think this is this is certainly a time period where you can really yeah, open that up for yourself.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

Recognizing, you know, uh it's I I think this period of time, the greatest value that you bring to the world is the ability to open your mind to a broader context, to a more deeper context, and an awareness of the fear and the limits of that are created by our society and our programming, and to to begin to to push those boundaries and see yourself not as a cog in the wheel or worthy only based on what you produce or what you have, but to to I think we're in a in an era where we're reawakening to our greater nature. And so just spending time in that mindset is an incredible contribution, I think, to the whole of this. I don't know what word to use. I don't want to use crazy words. Let's just use the word world. Yeah, to the whole of this world, you contribute.

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

So you had some places in mind. Let's cover them because I'm out of time. You gotta go to the gym.

The Council Library And Favorite Places

SPEAKER_01 26:22

So wanted to cover just a few places that we go to. Again, these are not the only places people go to, but they're the most dominant places, the common people uh places that people think of when they think of life between lives. So covered the pre-birth planning place. There's a place called the council where you receive counsel. In that place, there's usually a number of guides there. I've seen, or I'm not I've seen, but clients have reported like let's say five to ten in between there, sort of back and forth council members. In the council, usually we go there if there's a lot of self-judgment that comes into the session. The council is really good at helping you just know that you are not judged, you're the only person judging yourself, and what you're doing in life is not being judged in the way that you imagine as a human would. Other places, the library. I want to touch on this briefly. You've probably heard of it as the Akashic Records. This is the same place. The Akashic Records is apparently the library that people go to in Life Between Lives. And that's where we can delve into this life. You can delve into past lives. Many people what when people get there, they report that it's just this library that is so massive. I mean, it's unthinkable how massive this is. And imagine the bookshelves just soar up into the sky and there's no end to them. And there's tables, usually there's guides with other souls at tables. And so you can sit down at a table, have your guides there, and go through past lives, understanding what you need to pull into this life. I've even had clients that, like if you were to imagine this, are standing around a table and they have their book open, let's say for a past life, and it's almost like they hop into the book and either live out a little portion of that life to understand something, or from like the clouds looking down, just getting a sense of what's going on there with their guides to learn from. Yeah. So the library can bring many things, but it usually covers past life and this life understandings. And then favorite places of people. So usually I'll ask in a session, as a soul, in the life between lives, what is your favorite place to go? And trying to think of like the most common. I've had people say, well, you know, hang out with my soul buddies. But the the most common thing is that they they like to go to planets where they're just light and they just get to flow around as light. And sometimes the planet is just made of light, like it's not physical. So yeah, I wanted to cover those. And yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else that comes up. I don't think so at this moment. But that sort of covers life between lives. And I think those are probably, I think over the last week we've covered pretty much everything that is like we would deem important about the life between lives journey.

Books Deja Vu And Hypnosis Tool

SPEAKER_00 30:08

I think if you want to understand more about the way you exist over there, Michael Newton's books are really helpful because they they deal with sort of the day-to-day life, they deal with the growth progression, they deal with vibration and color and and important things as we see them over there. And I think, you know, there's lots to be learned about your soul group and how you work together to collaborate. I think there's really good stuff in Robert Schwartz's books about life planning, your soul's plan, that uh books like that, because you really do get into some really real detail. I've been myself to the place where you pick your body, and that was an interesting experience. And then you yeah, you you you pick your skills and you you plan who's going to play what roles. And I always like to point out that the people that are probably the most painful to us in whatever life we're living are actually people who love us the most. Uh, that and the combination of sort of karmic experience with each other determines who plays what's role, what roles we play for each other. And, you know, sort of negotiating that that takes place discussions about you know what you're gonna go through, and maybe that's too much, or maybe that's not too much, or maybe you can handle it, or maybe you can't handle it. And there's a lot of discussion there, all of which, you know, gets kind of, you know, you're you're going to the council before and after lives, you're going to the council for insights, you're you're planting in your mind little reminders before the life begins. Often people experience that as deja vu. Just just reminders, just very energetic moments that we remember for the whole of our lives once they happen. And it's almost like we remember them when they do. So there's a lot of really neat stuff you can find out in these books that they've taken lots of people through that gives you an idea of what's possible. Some people are meant to become introduced to these ideas, and these books serve a wonderful thing. Some people are meant to experience these kinds of hypnotic journeys. Hypnosis is just a tool. Your mind is always there, it's always there for you. Hypnosis is just the tool we use to focus it. So this is not unique. This is not unique to hypnosis. This is not the specialness of hypnosis. This is the breadth of your mind. So, yeah, there's lots of resources out there. And of course, yeah, you can if it makes sense to to you and your your guides and your team are in agreement, you can certainly have one of these experiences yourself.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

Yeah. So thank you for hanging in today. Thank you for going through the last number of cop podcasts talking about the life between lives. And yeah, have a beautiful day.