Your Body Holds Messages: Do You Want To Hear Them?

We explore why physical symptoms can connect to emotions and life events, and how a simple reframing can turn pain into useful information instead of a personal betrayal. We lean on Louise Hay’s “Heal Your Body,” nervous system basics, and our own experience with hypnosis-style listening to show how relief often starts with awareness and kinder self-talk. 

• Louise Hay’s symptom chart and why it can feel uncomfortably accurate 
• Mind-body evidence through placebo, biofeedback, and epigenetics 
• Emotions as messages that seek resolution rather than suppression 
• A real fear scenario and practical ways to calm the stress response 
• Longer exhales and peripheral vision as fast regulation tools 
• Why the body “holds” what we refuse to feel 
• Talking to the cells and shifting self-criticism into support 
• Knee pain meanings and the left-right relationship lens 
• Back pain themes around support and receiving help 
• Using affirmations alongside medication and medical care

Transcript

Weather Talk And A Bigger Question

SPEAKER_02 0:10

We are on the line.

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On a cloudy day, but it's not bad. It's breezy. It's been breezy a lot. A lot of weather moving through. It's made it impossible to cut the grass.

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And we need to cut the grass.

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And now we've got to cut the grass today. And conditions are not optimal.

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And the grass has grown. I think it has has its own life voice out there.

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Like you're watching it drink the rain and just expanding. Yeah, it's amazing. Now people say I'm watching the grass grow, but I think you actually could on some days.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

Yeah. So today we're gonna we're gonna talk about how can a symptom be directly related to an emotion or event? How can a symptom in our life, in our body, be directly related to an emotion or an event? And I encounter this a lot, not with what we're gonna talk about today, but I encounter this where where, you know, in hypnosis, we go to the cells, we ask the cells what's going on, what they're holding on to, and they take us back in time and we work it out and yada yada yada. But what we're gonna talk about today has to do with something that Les is passionate about. I'm increasingly passionate about. And we try to live our life

Louise Hay And Symptom Meanings

SPEAKER_02 1:35

by, even though we're, you know, kind of gets under our skin when we go, of course that's what it means, is someone named Louise Hay. And she wrote a book, many books, one of them called Heal Your Body. And it goes over the symptoms that we might be having in our life in our body and what they are related to.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Yeah, I had that. I have owned, I couldn't count, probably 30, 30 to 40 copies of that book. I give them away all the time. Yeah, I'm giving one away today, as a matter of fact. I'm going to meet a friend at the gym. We were talking about this stuff, and I she's curious. And so I'm gonna give her some old copy. I I when I find copies of this stuff in used bookstores, I grab it because it's you know two bucks. But I think that the $17 or whatever it costs on Amazon to buy that book is a really worthwhile investment.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Yeah, she was the first one. There's a number of people out there who who are fluent in this stuff. And I I really don't know where the origin comes from. My understanding is that some of this was recorded in ancient Egypt.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

Oh, you're kidding.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

That we've had an awareness of this stuff. You know, Egypt is some of the earliest times that hypnosis was used therapeutically. And there's there's evidence that the healing world, the healing industry in ancient Egypt was very, very advanced, very energy-based. And they used a lot of the techniques that we're only just testing today. That's our approach today. We want clinical proof that something works. I'm not that patient. You know, so so as I I said to my friend, you know, when I when a client comes into my office and sits down and tells me that their knees are hurting or that they've got a sore back or their neck is really bothering them, I uh pull out that book. It's a tiny little book, and we'll talk about it in a minute. It's got a chart in it, and the chart has body parts and ailments listed alphabetically. And you look that stuff up, and it'll tell you the kinds of very briefly the kinds of thought patterns, thought forms that are going on inside you that express in that kind of ailment. And it'll give you an affirmation that will begin the process of addressing those thought patterns. Now, this stuff has been around, like I said, millennia, and a few people, Bruce Lipton is another, another is sorry, my mind went blank there. Lise Barbon is a French-Canadian writer. She has some really nice, elaborate, detailed books. I have those too. You know, guys like Greg Braden very much talk about this stuff. It's very much out there. Like the it's amazing how many people are out there talking about it. And more importantly, how much science actually proves it. People don't realize that that's what's going on. And and when people discover it, so when the client comes in and has that ailment, I just hand them the book and I watch them. And sometimes they'll they'll dismiss the book in the first 30 seconds. I'll look at that later. And I believe a lot of that is just resistance. They open the book to look at it, it's got way too much truth in it, and they don't want to face that. And sometimes it's just dismissive. I had one client come in, I showed him the book, he set it aside, wasn't interested. We did five sessions in the fifth session. He said, Can I see that book again? We have to work our way towards the idea that we are a fully integrated being and that what we think uh affects our emotions. Our emotions are meant to flow. They usually don't. That's really normal, but it's not very helpful. Those emotions build up because we like to see patterns in our lives. We like to see this always happens to me. People always treat me this way. And I always find these kinds of people. And my friends have always treated me like this, and my family has always treated me like this. And so these emotional patterns get really

Proof The Mind Affects The Body

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locked in. I'm to the point where I really believe, you know, in the world of epigenetics, where we talk about how science says that environmental conditions can change your genetic expression. I would say that it's the interpretation of your environmental conditions that changes your genetic expression. I don't think the body, the body just does it without thought going on, without an analysis there. But the point is, is that we know that the mind can change our genetic expression. That's science today. We know of the placebo effect. That's science today. And if nothing else, that should be adequate proof for most people that the mind has the ability to affect the body. We know that from old biofeedback tests, you know, just about any of us could sit down right now and get a find a place to take your pulse and then change what you're thinking about. So go from thinking about your life, and your pulse is going to sit there at 76 or something, and then start thinking about being on a beach and start thinking about, you know, a nice peanut colada and a beach chair and the sun and the waves. And pretty soon your pulse is going to go down. And in fact, if you wanted to, while you're paying attention to your pulse, you could make it go up. You could just think about it going up, but you could also think about really stressful things in your life. The point is, is your body's not moving, but your body's reacting as if you were. So this sort of mind-body connection is pretty obvious. You know, we talk about the unconscious mind impacting your deepest bodily functions, like your pulse, your heartbeating, your breathing, your digestion, your immune system. You know, these kinds of things are being run by your mind. And as your mind interprets conditions around it, your body will change accordingly. And this to me is nothing more than the extension of that. But that's sort of all the ideas all in one. That's the first one you want to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

Hmm. Well, I just want to mention the name of the book again. It's called Heal Your Body by Louise Hay. It's a little book, and that's what we're going over today.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Louise Hay published self-published that book. When she started, she self-published that book.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

Was that her very first book?

SPEAKER_00 8:37

That was the only book. That was the only book for the longest time, was the only thing she published. And then some people really caught on to what wonderful impact it has.

SPEAKER_02 8:47

Yeah.

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And so she wrote a more expanded version of the book.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

Oh, really?

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And she's done like six or seven copies of that. And then along came some people who said, you know, we could be publishing this. And then they started publishing other people. And now Hay House publishes just about any spiritual, any spiritual writer that you've probably ever gotten interested in is being published by Hay House. It's the biggest thing going on today in publishing.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Yeah. If you're listening to us and you're of the spiritual mind, I guarantee you you might have a Hay House on your shelf.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

Yeah. So Louise Hay was the beginner. And it's this idea again of, you know, symptoms that we have in the body directly related to how we're feeling, what we're going through, those kinds of things. So where do I want to start? I think I think I want to help discover or reframe this thing that I notice with myself, with people with others, where it's easy to think, oh, I have stress, that's why my heart rate is up. But how could it mean if I have stress in work that my shoulder hurts? Right. How does that, how does it go from my heart rate to my shoulder?

SPEAKER_00 10:08

You asking me?

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Yeah. You know more about this than me, I feel like.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

This is to me the the the important stuff that I found myself called to do. You know, I I find myself called to awaken people to the idea that they are a mind, that they have a mind, that they can use their mind, and they don't have to let their mind use them. And so one of the things the mind does is it it generates emotions. And emotions are responses to situations. And they're responses to situations that we interpret as having some kind of meaning about ourselves, our own happiness, our own safety, our own relationships,

How Emotions Get Stored Inside

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who we are, what we are, are we good enough? Aren't we good enough? All those kinds of things. Anything that happens around us that triggers those kinds of meanings and interpretations generates an emotion. So what happens to most of us most of the time is we have emotions and we push them down. It's just the easy way. Something makes me angry, I don't want to be in an argument right now. I just push it down. Something makes me resentful, and then I tell myself, well, that's just my lot in life. So tough luck, and I push it down. Uh something makes me scared, and I tell myself in in some voice that isn't mine, don't be such a sissy, get on with it. Don't be afraid of that. Do it, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

And as we talked about for the last few days, fear. There's a way to address fear, but pushing it down is not a good one. We have experiences where we combine all those emotions, where we're angry at somebody else. We're resentful that they put us through that experience. We're afraid of having that experience again. We're really confused about what that experience means about us. And then we just push the whole thing down out of our line of sight, get it away from us. And we all symbolically think when I push it down, I push it down into my body. And the body will then hold that on your behalf. You might find yourself suffering from anxiety and you walk around anxious, and you might find yourself getting a little bit of relief from taking some medication, and you might find yourself needing to change your job, and you make some shifts in your external world, and it feels a little bit better, but it doesn't seem to go away. You see, emotions are a message that your mind is telling you something needs to be changed here, something needs to be addressed, something needs to shift. An emotion of any note at all is an opportunity for you to receive it, understand it, receive its message, and make whatever change is necessary to relieve that emotion. Emotions need relief. But we're not good at relieving emotions, and we're not good at then letting them go.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

I always use the story. You know, I'm I'm in the office late at night, and I look out the door, and my truck is the only truck in the parking lot, and there's a bunch of kids standing around it. And I can be like, oh my God, like what are these kids doing to my truck and what are they going to do to me? Right. And then I have all kinds of alternatives, right? When I pause to think about it, because fear means that something might go wrong. There might be something bad here. I might get hurt. And then I think, well, how might I get hurt if I sit with the emotion and allow it to be and understand that it's bringing me that message that there's danger here? Well, what is the danger? And now I get realistic about the danger because I'm I'm thinking about it now. Then I'm I'm going to really strategize how I'm going to go out there and deal with it. Now that's that comes from having spent years of learning about my emotions. I mean, I started my own hypnosis journey 25 years ago, right? So I've been really focused on this stuff. What happens to a lot of us is in those moments, our body reacts, right? So think about how that conscious mind is connected to the subconscious and the unconscious mind. And the subconscious mind says, watch out, there's a bunch of kids around your car. And then the unconscious mind is going to activate my sympathetic nervous system. It's going to get my heart beating faster. It's going to make my pupils dilate. It's going to make my muscles tense up. I'm going to start to breathe quicker, shorter, faster. So now all of that activity in my body is interfering with my ability to think through it.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

Yeah, to think rationally.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

So this is the awareness,

Fear Example And Calming Hacks

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right? The awareness there is that what's going on emotionally for me is going to affect my body. And holy cow, what can I do? So there's simple hacks, right? The first thing is you can just take a deep breath. And, you know, I love the Chinese adage, old Taoist philosophy, everything begins with breathing. Everything begins with breathing. And I think that that's just a most beautiful idea. No matter what's going on in your life, if you're starting to feel an emotion, breathe. And now you can exercise one of these hacks, right? There's all these wonderful hacks for the body. The first is you take a deep breath. But the next time you breathe, take the time to exhale longer than you breathe in. Right? That's the first step. Do that a couple of times so that your exhale might be to a count of six, while your inhale is to a count of four. But the idea is you're exhaling longer than you're breathing in. Next big hack, and I love this one, is suddenly be aware of your peripheral vision. You can still look at something, but be aware of your peripheral vision, how much wider you can be aware of, right? Because that's the opposite of what's going on in your sympathetic nervous system. It's focusing, it's dilating your pupils and focusing on a spot. And if you can shift that focus and make it broader, you're now pushing your body back into a parasympathetic state. So big hack. Take a deep breath. Then breathe out longer than you breathe in. And you might take two or three breaths there. And then allow yourself to have peripheral vision again. Be aware of the sounds of the room. Be aware of the breadth of your vision. And now you're shifting back into a more under control state. Now that conscious mind is more useful to you. And you can say, well, what am I afraid of? What could happen? And then, as we talked about yesterday, well, I want to go to my car anyway. So ask this emotion, what do I need to do to be safe?

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

And for me, what automatically kicks in is that people attack people who attack them. Attack is triggered. And if I go out there with a chip on my shoulder, an attitude, hey, you guys get away from my truck, I'm just provoking them. If I go out there, relaxed and aware, then I can be open to what shows itself. And yeah, I use this example a lot because it's exactly what happened to me. I went out there, how are you doing, guys? What's going on tonight? Oh, nothing. I said, Oh, this is a tough town, isn't it? Yeah, it's a tough town. Yeah, there's nothing for us to do. And I say, Well, you guys have a good night. I get in my truck and I drive away like nothing. But all that fear had to be dealt with. Now, as I'm driving away in my truck, I need to take some more deep breath because I need to let that fear go. And I need to learn the lesson. And the lesson is I know what to do in scary situations. I know how to handle situations like that. I know how to not be a difficult guy and then not experience other difficult people. I don't always have to be worried about other people. You know, people are generally good. And I can anticipate that people are generally good. And that most of the time, people just want a reason to be happy. And as I'm driving away and I'm realizing this about people, and I'm realizing this about myself, the emotion dissipates and it's gone. And I've gotten myself through a difficult situation, and that's a success. And through all of that, my subconscious mind is learning. My subconscious mind is learning a new way to deal with that emotion. My subconscious mind is saying, that worked. This is good. That might be something to try in the future because that's what the subconscious mind is. It's a great big library of everything that you've experienced, right? And it uses all the past experiences that are similar to help you manage the experience you're you're having right now. So emotions are a message. Emotions can be turned to to help you understand what's going on for you. Emotions can be addressed, they seek satisfaction, they seek resolution, they can be addressed. And then when they're addressed, they dissipate and emotions go. When we don't address our emotions, when we just push them down, they're gonna stay. They're gonna stay, they're gonna seek resolution. And that's why the next time you're in a situation similar, you feel the same emotion. And then the next time you feel that same emotion, you get angry about it. And now the anger complicates it. And then the next time you feel that emotion, both the emotion and the anger are being activated from all those past times. And then you overreact and you scream and you yell and you might hurt somebody and you might do something really that just feels out of character to you. And that's because emotions require resolution. And when we hang on to them and don't resolve them, they stay with us. And then they become more. And for some people, emotions will reach the point where they don't feel there's any hope in resolving that. It's just something really, really bad that happened to me. It's just a bad situation I'm in, and I can't get out of it. This is just a relationship that is always going to be sour, and I'm stuck with it. And those emotions stay deep inside us. And so it's not a surprise that when people are hitting their 40s and 50s and 60s, all of these really problematic chronic illnesses arise because they've held on to those emotions for a long time. And they're convinced that there's nothing they can do with them. And they're convinced

Louise Hay Story Of Healing

SPEAKER_00 20:35

that these experiences are just part of who they are. So let's relate that to Louise Hay because she's, you know, she's a special gift from God. She's passed on now, but um, she lived a long, healthy life. But when she was a young woman, and I I hope I'm honoring her story, when she was a young woman, she was diagnosed with cervical. And the doctors wanted to do all kinds of very invasive measures, and their prognosis was very negative. And she was becoming aware of this stuff, how your mental emotional state is the trigger for all kinds of illness. And so she decided that she needed to put into practice what she she believed in. In that process, long repressed memories of sexual abuse came up. And then she had to work through those emotions and those experiences to get to the place where she would know that there was nothing wrong with her, that she didn't ask for this, she didn't deserve this, this was not something that she created, this was something that happened and that the problem didn't lie inside her, the problem lied inside someone else. And then she was able to move through that into a state of um I think there's different levels of forgiveness, but she moved into a state of forgiveness. And she was able to turn to herself and begin the process of loving herself again. And feeling good about herself and feeling good about her life. And within a relatively short period of time, she was cancer free. And so she, because she had embraced these ideas, because she had pursued these ideas, because she had learned by doing, she wrote this stuff down and wanted the people that she helped to benefit from it. And she turned it into this first book, Heal Your Body, which she expanded into ideas of heal your life. But it was a critical recognition that unresolved emotions wreak havoc on the body. And so that's why on the school, I spend so much time trying to explain what emotions mean and the value of emotion and what they're trying to do and why we podcasted yesterday. You know, fear is your friend. Ask fear what it's protecting you from. Ask fear how you can do this thing anyway. How can I go up to my truck anyway and go home without hanging on to that fear, without letting that fear stop? And I believe in my heart, you know, if I ever bump into those guys again, they're going to be my friends. But it's a matter of understanding that emotions are the function of how we're interpreting a circumstance, that the emotion itself is a message, something needs to change. That when you embrace that message and you act on that change, the emotion gets resolved and then it dissipates, it's gone. And you move on to the next moment.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

I think it's this

Talk To Your Cells With Kindness

SPEAKER_02 23:30

idea of talking to the body. I mean, we're talking about fear and coming down from fear. But in day-to-day life, I think a reframe would be we are always talking to the body. We're not maybe thinking, oh, I'm talking to the body right now. But any thoughts that are going through your mind are being heard by cells in your body, the energy in your body, the the organs in your body, the tissues in your body. And the idea with Louise Hay is that she gives just tiny, tiny little, what would you call them, excerpts or not excerpts, uh just a little tiny sentence of what to say to the body if you're going through such and such symptom in the body. And yeah, as you were talking there, I thought, yeah, we're always, you know, I take people into hypnosis and we we go to the cells and we talk to the cells, and it's really not much different. We're talking to the body, right? And I like the image of us as humans, we're always looking for a higher power or an awe moment in life, or we're reaching for answers from something maybe greater than ourselves. And I like the idea that if you think of all the, oh my God, I don't even know how many cells in the body reaching for that as well. And you are the source, you are the let's say, God, or you are the universe to them. And every time I go into the body with people, when we go to the cells, they love it. They love being heard, they love being loved, and they might be shy at first or you know, not wanting to give up information. But as soon as they know that they're supported and loved and cared for and that we're there to help them, they just get giddy. It's hilarious, really. They they start partying. It's so cute. But like, yeah, I think I think something to think about and not to be scared of. We don't want to turn it into being scared of our own thoughts, but I think it's worthwhile to start to recognize that anything you're saying to yourself, whether you're looking in the mirror and criticizing yourself, or throughout the day saying, oh, what a what an idiot I am, or I don't know what. I think I think it's so important to steer away from those things and start to speak to yourselves, your body in nice ways.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

I think I think what we do when we start to experience an ailment, you know, oh, my back is hurting, or my neck is sore, or you know, I'm feeling sick, got a fever, we automatically resist it. I don't want this. I don't want this illness. Right. But what you'll find, just like you you find in your cell work, is that cells misfunction with the intention of getting your attention. My yelling, my achy knees are my body's way of saying, hey, there's some stuff you're not dealing with. There's some emotions here that you haven't dealt with. There's some things in your life that you're not coping with very. If we were to shift from saying, I'm not feeling well and I don't like it and I resist it, to I'm not feeling well, I wonder what that means.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

I'm not feeling well, I wonder what that means. And then invite those cells to just tell you, be open, ask the question and just be open. What do you have to tell me today? Because that's why they're hurting. That's why the dis-ease is there. It's because your body's saying, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, you're not, you're not dealing with these emotions well. And they need to be dealt with, or they're going to build up and they're going to make illness. And we don't want that. We want to be healthy and happy and strong and take care of you. I always like to say that, you know, we underestimate the consciousness of a self. You know, when you look around the world, we we're starting to really understand that consciousness is a broader topic than human beings being able to say, look at me. Consciousness is more than saying, I am me and you are you. Consciousness is a broader, deeper thing, and and consciousness exists in animals. We've reached a point in our society where we're starting to recognize that sentient beings are capable of thought and that they deserve more respect and their consciousness has a purpose and a meaning. We certainly can see in ecology how everything fits together nicely. And you remove one element of an ecosystem, and the whole thing starts to get dysfunctional. And each element is doing what it was meant to do. And so when I work with clients that are dealing with ailments, one of the things we start with is that idea that our physical body started with two cells. Each cell had half of the recipe for making a human being, and one without the other does not make a human being. And those two cells come together, and within them there is so much awareness and knowledge and intention and purpose that they can turn into trillions and trillions of cells, and every single one of those cells has its own function. They might work together in groups, they might have similar functions as the cell beside them, they might do different things. But not only do they do their own unique task, but they do it under specific conditions. And they have the capacity somehow, whether you want to talk about chemistry or you want to talk about cellular biology or you want to talk about consciousness, they have somehow the ability to respond to the conditions around them and conduct some activity that is absolutely essential to the thriving body as a whole. And so I like to think that every single cell in my body has its own consciousness and every single cell in my body knows what it should be doing. And every cell in my body is going to do exactly what it's supposed to do unless I interfere with it. I can interfere with it by not taking care of my body. I can interfere with it by eating things that are harmful to me. I can interfere with it by holding thoughts and emotions that are not loving and life appreciating. And in that process of all of those things, I think a really nice generalized phrase is when I am not loving myself, my body can dysfunction. And the dysfunction

What Knee Pain Can Represent

SPEAKER_00 30:05

is a message. And the message is you need to deal with some of this stuff.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

I wanna I wanna just read a couple of like the biggest things that I think, well, I don't know if they're the biggest things, but they're things that generally pop up for us. I'm gonna read what Louise Hay says that they mean, and I'll read the little message that goes along with them. So knee, let's go to knee. You mentioned knee before.

SPEAKER_00 30:31

My knees hurt.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

We have that, a lot of that. So that represents pride and ego. Now it also says knee problems, stubborn ego and pride, inability to bend, fear, inflexibility, won't give in. And also, once you've read that, you go to the little I am messages that she's got that you say to the body, to the cells. I am flexible and flowing, forgiveness, understanding, compassion. I bend and flow with ease, and all is well. And yeah, I think that's that's just great. Let's go to do you have anything to say on that?

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Well, I want to add to that that you know, somebody could take themselves into a nice little meditative state, get into a a theta state just by breathing and relaxing, and then allow their attention to come to that part of the body, just like you do with people in hypnosis, and ask, what is it that you need of me? Yeah, what do I need to address? Now, just let that answer come.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

You know, it's it's one of the things I think we're we're not very good at, and I'm not very good at, is just listening. Just listening. When when you ask somebody a question you genuinely don't know the answer to, your mind is in a very paused state. If you want to know what time it is and you don't know what time it is, and you have no way of knowing what time it is, and you turn to somebody beside you and you say, What time is it? Your mind stops there, waiting for an answer.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

But sometimes our mind will run ahead. Well, it might be close to 12, it might be after 12, I'm not really sure. And while our mind is busy in all that activity, we don't even hear the person tell us it's, you know, 1215 because our mind is busy trying to figure it out. And sometimes we ask questions we think we know the answer to, and we find out that we didn't. But our mind is running away on us. In fact, sometimes our mind runs away so much that somebody has to yell at it to get us to stop our mental fury and listen to the answer. So I think we we really need to be good at learning how to listen and listening by saying to your niece, tell me, tell me what is it that I'm not doing? Tell me what it is that I am doing, tell me what needs to be resolved here.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:45

And then wait. Don't try to figure it out. Listen for their answer.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

Yeah. I think oh, sir. I think another thing to take in, because uh this is actually a good example for this, is left and right knee. So your right knee might be fear and flexibility won't give in with your job, ego and pride. Okay, so right is sort of a doing, you know, masculine energy usually has to do with jobs, work life. Do you have anything to add to the right?

SPEAKER_00 33:18

Uh that's what somebody will come into my office and they'll sit down in the chair and they'll say, Oh, sorry, my shoulder hurts. I said, What shoulder? And they'll say the right shoulder. And then I'll just pause for a minute. I'll say, So how's things that worked?

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:28

Gets the conversation going.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Yeah, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

And they might say, Well, it's not why I came here. And I'll say, Well, actually, why don't we talk about it anyway? Do you want this book?

SPEAKER_02 33:39

And then the left represents uh the feminine, uh receiving love, family relations, relationships. So if you've got knee problems in your in your left knee, it might be an inability to bend, or fear and flexibility won't give in with somebody in your life, in your family unit or friend. So yeah, I think as we wrap up this today, I know there's lots

Back Pain And The Need For Support

SPEAKER_02 34:05

that we could go into, and we probably will, but well, the chart has literally hundreds of things, and it even goes into so much detail all along your spine.

SPEAKER_00 34:14

For many people, the back is a big problem.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

And the back is all about support. And the different regions of the back represent different kinds of support that we receive from outside of us. And one of the biggest problems most people have is not that they're not supported, it's that they're not open to receiving support. They've got a functional requirement that they have to take care of things themselves. And other people have the opposite, right? That they expect everything outside themselves to take care of themselves. And so, you know, them being safe and sound is about others and outside conditions and not inside conditions. And you can have everything in between, right?

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

Different aspects of your life, you might require support in different ways. But the back is just a really telling part of the body that advises you when your mind is not understanding and processing ideas of support very well. There's something, an old, you know, the Louise Hayes chart is filled with the words anger, resentment, and fear. These are really, really powerful emotions that we generally don't go out of our way to resolve. And so they carry along with us in our body. And when there's just too much, the cells of the body say, hey, you gotta deal with it. So to look at ailments as having meaning, to look at ailment as something that's the result of the way you are living, to look at ailments and disease as something you actually can impact, and that your body producing an ailment is not an attack, it's a message. It opens the door to another way of dealing with.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Yeah, absolutely. It's hard, you know, in the moments. We're gonna we're gonna wrap up in a moment, but I do want to say it's very normal to get caught up in the, oh my God, I need like something to fix this right now, you know. Like, like I had back, God, back pain and back in September. And I was just popping medication just to get through the day. And I was I was, you know, you can look at the book and you go, I don't want to look at the book at all. I just need, you know, some medication to make the pain go away. But uh I did, I did uh write down all the different areas that were in pain and all the different things to say to myself, and I had a whole page full of it. And I do think it it helped a lot because it would reduce it. Of course, it needed healing and time,

Affirmations Plus Real-World Care

SPEAKER_02 36:55

but uh it didn't did help absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

Yeah, and I'm not saying this for legal reasons, I'm saying this for for mental reasons. You don't have to pick sides in this debate. No, you can do both. If you have found that there's a certain medication that you can take that helps, well, geez, keep on doing that. And if you think that addressing some of these deeper issues in your life that reveal themselves through illness is meaningful and helpful, then do that too. And what Louise Hayes' book does is she just reduces it to an affirmation, just something you're gonna say to yourself, something, another way of thinking, right? And that's what we do. That's that's what I love to do. That's why I do this. I find that most people can dramatically improve their life by changing the way they think. I know I have, I know I continue to. I know that I that this is a never-ending journey. I have a great big massive program inside me that was given to me by people who loved me and thought they were doing what was best in a world that thinks it's doing what's best, in a society that's trying to do what's best, but these ideas are not good, they're not helpful, they're not, they're not accurate. And so as I go through my life's journey and I'm constantly trying to think of things differently, you know, I have found this to be a really powerful tool.

SPEAKER_02 38:22

Yeah. And I, you know, if you said to somebody, do you think if you told yourself bad things all day long that you would feel bad and the body would respond negatively? I bet you they would say yes. But if you said, if you spoke to the body lovingly all day long, with you know, nice things, and your body would respond positively, you usually people don't understand it. They they think, well, maybe, I don't know. And so it's something to start to it's a it's a little nugget, a little seed to plant that yes, just the way the body responds to negative thinking, it will respond to positive thinking.

SPEAKER_00 39:06

In the broadest, generalist terms, you can have, do, or be anything you you can think anything you want. And if you get presented with an idea to think about, an idea like I am always lovable, and you have resistance to that. That's a program. That's somebody else's idea that has been successfully planted in your mind. It's useful to find it, it's useful to find the origin of it, it's useful to try to dispose of it, resolve it, get rid of it, see the untruth of it. Most importantly, just finding it and being aware of it is the beginning of a lot more happy.

Final Takeaways And Goodbye

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All right, that's it for today. Thank you for hanging out with us today and have a beautiful day. And we will see you later.