MTM - Interview with Scott Schara..Is the Government Legally Killing Us? Part Two

If the words “standard of care” sound like safety, this conversation asks you to listen closer to what those standards can demand and what they can quietly forbid. We sit down with Scott Shara to continue a frank, faith-forward talk about his book Is The Government Legally Killing Us, and why he believes the modern medical system can operate like a machine that rewards compliance more than healing. Along the way, we confront a question that hits every family sooner or later: who holds the real power in healthcare, the patient, the doctor, or the policies behind the curtain?

We trace the ideas Schara connects to a broader culture shift: collectivism, medical education pipelines, and a country dependent on pharmaceuticals. Then we move into the legal and financial structures he says shape outcomes, including the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, Medicare and Medicaid incentives, and his reading of Obamacare Section 1553. We also slow down on “informed consent” and the AMA Code of Medical Ethics, especially how phrases like “recommended treatments” and “medically appropriate options” can limit what patients ever hear, even when the language sounds ethical and compassionate.

Finally, we talk solutions in plain terms, not silver bullets: fear, courage, and responsibility. Shara frames Revelation 13 as a way to understand both the physical pressure to comply and the spiritual call to repent of turning our birthright over to the state. If you care about medical freedom, patient rights, Christian ethics in medicine, and how incentives can distort healthcare, this one will challenge you. Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who needs a new angle, and leave a review with your biggest takeaway: where do you think true medical autonomy begins?

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Transcript

Welcome Back And Book Setup

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Welcome. The more than metal we're doing is more than enough for the building. Our culture in the local position is Dr. Robert Jackson. So that's enough because the doctor is welcome to More Than Medicine.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

I'm your host, Dr. Robert Jackson, bringing to you biblical insights and stories from the country doctor's rusty, dusty scrapbook. Well, I'm delighted once again this week to have as my guest Scott Sharra. We started with him last week, and this week we're back again discussing his book, Is The Government Legally Killing Us, a very provocative title of a very interesting book. Scott Sharra, welcome back to More Than Medicine.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Well, it's great to be back, Doc. And yeah, I just uh I can't get enough of hearing your voice. It's just a comfort.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Well, thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. But you know, around here everybody else talks just like me. All right. Well, let's talk about this uh this book of yours. I'm fascinated. And um so I'll I'm gonna start with uh this question. What are the main themes of

Collectivism And The Culture Of Death

SPEAKER_03 1:28

this book that you've uh just now published?

SPEAKER_02 1:32

The main theme is how this was orchestrated, this agenda to turn over our birthright to the government to legally kill us. And you know, last time we talked about Jacobson versus Massachusetts, which was the Supreme Court case in 1905 that that instituted the satanic principle of collectivism. So that becomes the culture of death that we've all been programmed to believe. And you know, just in simple terms, an example, uh, because Grace had Down syndrome, uh, the best example I can give you is that 90% of Down syndrome babies are murdered in the womb today. So what's the reason?

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:13

They're murdered under this principle of collectivism, which you know, non-contributing members of society don't deserve to live. Uh, what's the reason? Because they're non-contributing. Well, you know, that's why God's way is always outside of these crazy doctrines of men. Uh you know, so then you know, to thread this through, I'm just gonna kind of thread through how they did this.

Medical Training And Big Pharma Dependence

SPEAKER_02 2:36

And you know we also touched last time on how the medical profession is programmed. And since 1910, uh the Flexner Report, then the Rockefellers took over the medical schools, and all of a sudden, uh all the medical providers are trained, other than the ones who got outside of that system, they're trained to operate in one way. And the result today, uh, the United States of America has roughly 4% of the world's population. We consume 45% of the world's pharmaceuticals, 5 billion annual prescriptions. We are a country that is hooked on big pharma. And of course, it's partly because of the programming of the medical profession, but the people can't, we're not off the hook. We are, you know, Satan knows our nature, and we're lazy and we want a pill to fix everything.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

That's exactly right.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Then, you know, the big, you know, they've sold this lie. The big lie is God doesn't exist. Well, then, if God doesn't exist, they can sell the lie that all the globalists are in on, which is uh we have limited resources on the planet. So this is nonsense. We have a good father. Uh, you know, strangely, I went to kindergarten in 1968. And, you know, we you would have thought and in the 60s and 70s when I went through the public fool system, they weren't selling this limited resources on the planet nonsense. But they were. In 68, in the weekly reader, uh, the weekly reader came out and said, if your parents have more than two children, that's irresponsible because of the limited resources on the planet. So this programming of the collectivist doctrine was already uh happening in the 60s. And in my research, I found a document in 1967 uh that was called the Depopulation of America. Um, so then, all right, so now they've got these big picture uh programming

Laws That Remove Liability And Enable Euthanasia

SPEAKER_02 4:33

going on. Well, now they have to uh pass laws to implement the desired result. So the worst, I consider this the worst uh piece of legislation, um, the worst uh spinning of how they do things legally, other than uh Roe versus Wade with the Supreme Court, and that is the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act. And even the name is deceptive, it has nothing to do with vaccine injuries, it has to do with eliminating the liability for vaccine injuries for the vaccine manufacturers. And anytime I say vaccine, by the way, I'm putting vaccine in quotes because it's all a deception. And you know, what the maybe the biggest deception about that act was I always thought Ronald Reagan was the best president that ever lived. Well, he's the one, he's the one who signed it uh and made it law on November 14th of 1986. Uh you know, then fast forward to 2010, uh, we have Obamacare. Everybody's familiar with that, and nobody really knows what it says. But if you want to spend any time at all, just look up one section, section 1553, and you will see that section 1553 legalized euthanasia. So you think, how is this possible in America? Well, we've been programmed to think that we have this, we have the best medical in the world. No, we have the most programmed medical in the world. That's what we have. And you know, to take this back to what I shared uh on the program last week, I mentioned about standards of care and how the standard of care for heart disease is the statin. Well, here's an interesting statistic about the statin. I provided the peer-reviewed study in my book uh that the statin causes dementia. And Ezekiel Emmanuel, who is one of the chief architects of Obamacare, he wrote, quote, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia. So do you see there's a vested interest with this global depopulation agenda to have patients have dementia because then they can put them in nursing homes out of sight, out of mind, and cut them off from medical care. Uh so then, okay, we've got the I I'm only touching on some of the legislation because you know we don't, you know, otherwise people aren't going to buy the book if I tell them everything. Yeah, yeah.

Incentives During COVID And Profit Pressures

SPEAKER_02 7:12

So now you have to incentivize. I mean, and you're very familiar with the incentivization of their desired outcome. Um, Mary Tally Bowden, who you and I both know, uh, she published on her ex account in 2014 uh that she had saved 6,000 patients during COVID. And if she would have just vaccinated that same 6,000 instead of treating them for COVID, she would have made an extra 1.5 million. Yeah, I saw that they're incentivizing these results.

SPEAKER_03 7:41

Yep, exactly. Exactly. Well, I'm I'm I'm glad to report that I did not give the COVID vaccine to anybody through my medical clinic unless they explicitly demanded that I give it to them.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Yeah, I mean, even then I would have, I I don't know that I I would have had to. Yeah, you're in a you're uh in an awkward position at that point. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

I talked a lot of people out of it, I'll give you that.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

That's good. That's good. Yeah, so you know, in summary, you know, I have proved the book proves that medical murder is the number one cause of death in America. It's by design, uh, and it's legal. Uh and you know, so what am I talking about relative to numbers? Well, there's 1.7 million annual deaths, 142,000 new medical murders every single month, 700,000 annual deaths from heart disease. So, and I'm not talking about what they've done to poison our food, water, air, and soil to cause our disease. I'm talking about the standard of care for heart disease causes 700,000 deaths. The standard of care for cancer causes 600,000 deaths, and 400,000 deaths from medical malpractice is 1.7 million a year. That's 61% of all the deaths annually in America are directly related to the medical-industrial complex causing medical murder.

Dialectic Method And Harmful False Choices

SPEAKER_02 9:08

So here's a here's a um a question for your audience. So I'll just ask it rhetorically, and then I'm going to answer it because here's what people don't understand. We end up fighting for things that cause our death, and we have to wake up to this method that they use, and it's called the dialectic method. Uh, and so I'll just give you an example first. So during COVID, I saw the disabled community was fighting for the disabled population, saying that our disabled population has the same right to ventilators as the uh regular population. So they're fighting for a tool that causes 90% of the patients to die.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

Yep, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

So they end up, they think they're fighting for the disabled, but they're actually fighting for their own um constituents to be killed. And this is so so now I'm gonna zoom that out to something that just about everybody would agree to until they understand what I'm about to tell you. So, should we demand that doctors provide informed consent? And technically a doctor can't do that because informed consent is two halves. The doctor is the informer, and then the patient provides the consent. So informed consent. Um, but should we demand that doctors follow uh the AMA code of ethics 2.1.1 regarding informed consent? And just about everybody says yes. I've never actually had anybody say no to that. Okay, so I'm gonna read to you 2.1.1 out of the AMA Code of Medical Ethics. And I'll tell you why we don't want this. Informed consent to the medical, excuse me, informed consent to medical treatment is fundamental in both ethics and law. Patients have the right to receive information and ask questions about recommended treatments so they can make well-considered decisions about care. Successful communication in the patient-physician relationship fosters trust and supports shared decision making. Transparency with patients regarding all medically appropriate options of treatment is critical to fostering trust and should extend to any discussions regarding who has access to patients' health data and how the data may be used. Okay, so when I again read that, it's like reading the pragmatic statement from the Supreme Court with Jacobson versus Massachusetts. You don't pick up on the trick. So they have two trick phrases in what I just read to you. Uh, one is about recommended treatments, and the second one is medically appropriate options. So the doctor who accepts Medicare and Medicaid is bound by his license to only give you informed consent about standards of care that are designed to kill you. He cannot give you true informed consent. True informed consent is about everything, every possible solution to your cancer, to your heart disease, not just the program solutions that the paycheck is based on. Uh, so that's why I'm not for fighting for informed consent at all. I'm unless we're talking about true informed consent outside of the standard of care model that's designed to kill us.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

I understand that.

Why AMA Informed Consent Falls Short

SPEAKER_02 12:28

All right. So, anyway, that's kind of weaving through uh the nuts and bolts as to, you know, what I'm my goal with with going through that is that people understand the system, the entire system of conventional medicine is not your friend. It's it's actually designed uh as part of the population reduction agenda.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

Yeah. Well, now what how do we fall into this trap, this conventional medicine trap?

SPEAKER_02 12:56

There's really two two ways that we did. One is I've somewhat explained it already, but I'm gonna re-explain it because it's it's deeper than what people think. You know, the the first one is real easy. It's free stuff. You know, so when they give us things for free, uh, you know, like when I had the $80 CT scan that I explained last time, you know, that's like, oh yeah, no, no question, I'm gonna do that. Or uh, you know, I'm gonna get a complete physical for $300. So, you know, we fall into the free stuff trap. Uh, and you know, so when uh we we believe that once we're 65, oh wow, we're gonna have Social Security, we're gonna have Medicare, so my retirement and my medical is taken care of by the state. So we turned over our birthright, our responsibility to take care of ourselves. We turned it over to the state with this illusion that I can just relax on my front porch and drink beer while the state takes care of me. Uh so that is a complete deception, and it's been by design. The bigger deception is the dialectic process. They get us into uh fighting for things. And you know, we talked uh earlier about informed consent. Uh, we talked about the disabled community fighting for ventilators, but you'll see this a half a dozen times a year where though the government will throw up propaganda that uh we've got to cut back on Medicare and Medicaid. There's 135 million Americans on Medicare and Medicaid, and we gotta we have a budget that we've got to balance. And uh the cost of that 135 million Americans is five trillion dollars a year, over 50% of the annual budget. And by the way, I'm giving you actual numbers with that. So they they do this propaganda, and so then people start fighting back. No, no, no, we can't not we can't cut that. I mean, people have paid in for this their whole life, they've depended on it. So then they always retreat and nothing's ever cut. Well, what's the reason? They want us to participate and agree with our own demise. So by fighting for Medicare and Medicaid to not be cut back, we're fighting for our own acceptance of the standard of care model. Uh so that dialectic process has been in place since the Garden in Genesis 3, uh, when Satan offered um the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Well, he really offered the tree of the knowledge of evil versus less evil. So think about it this way. We think we're we're always given two choices in their model. So we have CNN evil, Fox good. No, Fox less evil. Democrat evil, Republican good. No, Republican less evil. God's way is always outside of these dialectics, and it's easily proven. Think about the abortion um uh option. The Democratic platform is a woman's right to choose, the Republican platform is first trimester. Both platforms are murderers, it's just a matter of degree. So we we've got to realize this evil versus less evil dialectic process has got us trapped, and then we end up participating in evil. We become accomplices to evil.

SPEAKER_03 16:01

You're right, you're exactly right. I love it when you explain it that way because so many people would fall for the less evil all the time, especially in the debortion bait, because I work with pro-life groups all the time. And, you know, personhood with you know, no exceptions. And when I'll say that, people think I'm crazy because they're always choosing the less evil, pragmatic option. You know? All right, well, here's my last question.

Revelation 13 And Reclaiming Courage

SPEAKER_03 16:33

So, what's the solution to all of this this mess that we're in? We got about five minutes left.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

So people always want me to to give them the silver bullet and you know, you know, big picture. So if you understand what I'm saying, I don't have to give you any solutions because God organized the way we think uh that our beliefs always motivate our thoughts, and then that our thoughts motivate our actions. So once your belief change changes, your actions will always follow it. So if you believe the hospitals are safe zones, you're never gonna do anything that I suggest. If you believe that, okay, this is part of the cabal and part of the population reduction agenda. I don't have to tell you anything more because it's gonna, your your uh God-given ability to creatively solve problems is gonna kick in. Um but I have two answers, and I become a student of Revelation 13, and so my two answers focus around Revelation 13. So Revelation 13, in Revelation 13, God reveals Satan's dualistic nature, which uh is the Antichrist nature and the false prophet nature. So I'm equating the antichrist nature to the physical solution and the false prophet nature to the spiritual solution. Uh so the fruit this the physical solution is get comfortable dying. And once you're comfortable dying, and the only way I know how to get comfortable dying is to believe in uh the one who came to this earth, he was crucified, died, and was buried and rose again on the third day in fulfillment of the scriptures. So whoever believes in him has eternal life. Once you have eternal life, your fear is gone. Uh so now we don't have to fall trapped to these fear methods that they use to trap us to do things and get our critical thinking to check out. Uh so physically get comfortable dying. Spiritually, every single one of us has at some point in our life, either tacitly or on purpose, turned over our birthright to the state. We've become a statist hell. We want a king. In 1 Samuel chapter 8, the Israelites uh uh this is only 250 years after God parted the Red Sea. And what did they want? They went to Samuel the prophet and told them we want a king like all the other nations. And Samuel went to God directly, and God said, Hey, they're not they're not throwing you under the bus, they're throwing me under the bus. They don't want me as their king. And so Samuel he said, Go back and tell the people that what a king's gonna do, do to him. He's gonna make you slaves. So Samuel did that, and they still said we want a king. So God said, Give him a king, but tell him, don't come crying to me when it doesn't work out. Well, we're in the same boat. We think the new king, King Trump, and the HHS secretary are gonna fix everything. Well, that's that's like complete hogwash. That's not what's we need to repent of thinking that the government is going to save us from these these types of things. It's crazy. Uh so that's why I'm saying on a spiritual basis, we've got to we've got to repent. I'm sorry, Doc, I've got another call coming in, so that's what's beeping. That's fine. Um I'm just going to there. So spiritually, we all have to look in the mirror, and we have to honestly answer how have I contributed to turning over my birthright to the state? Repent of that and reclaim the ground that you have given up.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

Yep, you're right. You're exactly right. I hear that. I understand that. I understand that fully, brother. And I think that's a good word. That's a good word from the Lord, and that's a word that Christians all over this country need to hear and

Medical Freedom As A Hill To Die On

SPEAKER_03 20:32

understand. I had a I had a good brother in the office today who has stomach cancer, and the oncologist told him that he's got two months to live without chemo, and he's got about a year to live with chemo. And he looked at me and he said, Doc, I'm not gonna subject myself or my family to ten months of chemo uh just just to get another ten months. He said, I know where I'm going, and I know that I'm going home to be with the Lord, and he said, I'm not gonna spend all that money and all the rest of my days uh in a hospital, giving all my hard-earned retirement to the hospital system just so I can prolong my little little bit of life that I've got left, and uh I'm not gonna give my hard-earned money just to to the hospital just to gain ten more months.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

But spot on, that's is exactly how we've got to uh we should be standing against those type of things that uh are trying to steal our birthright. Think about something as simple, you know. I I'm asked fairly regularly because I be have become fanatical on this idea of standing against um this civil authority. And you know, so relative to mask, the mask mandate, you know, people ask, Well, is that a hill to die on? And the answer is yes. Those are all hills to die on. Every single one of these is a hill to die on.

SPEAKER_03 22:06

Yeah. Yeah. Because if you give them you give them an inch, they take a mile.

SPEAKER_02 22:09

It's exactly right.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Yep, exactly right. Exactly right. So medical freedom is important to you and me. Every aspect of medical freedom is important to you and me, whether it's the mask, whether it's the vaccines, whether it's your medical insurance. At at every p inch of ground we have to stand up for our freedom and our medical autonomy. Well, brother, I I want you to know this is fascinating. I can't wait to get a whole bunch of copies of your book so that I can distribute them to my friends and and some of the folks who are doubters. They need to hear this information. And and I want to thank you for your research and for your boldness in proclaiming the truth. And, you know, it's the truth that's gonna set us free, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 23:11

That's that's right, Hunt. Yeah, I'm j I'm just a dad. Uh and what happened to me after Grace died is um I realized, you know, it was God lit a fire under my rear end. And, you know, as I've been working, I uh my favorite book of the Bible is the book of Esther. You know, and most people quote Esther 414 when Mordecai said to Esther, How do you know you haven't been made for a time such as this? And you know, now that I see uh what God did in my background um to prepare me for a time such as this, it's uh it's humbling to be used.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Well, brother, you keep sounding the horn, you you sound the trumpet, you speak the truth, and God will give you a a a much larger audience over time. And I'm praying that he'll use the book that you've written to open the eyes of a whole lot of folks, uh, even this once blind family doctor. Uh all right.

Where To Buy The Book

SPEAKER_03 24:17

You're listening to more than medicine. I'm your host, Dr. Robert Jackson. My guest today is Scott Shara, author of uh uh an amazing and interesting book. Is the government legally killing us? Now, where can they get that book, Scott?

SPEAKER_02 24:32

Uh so the main source, if you go to Grace's website, which is our amazinggrace.net, uh, you'll see a picture of the cover of the book. If you click on that picture, it'll give you three purchase options. One uh Barnes Noble, Goodreads, and Amazon. Uh so all three of them are available through Grace's website.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

All right, all right, there you go. So I encourage my listeners to run, run to your computer and order yourself a book, one for yourself and one for all your friends. All right, thank you, Scott. I appreciate you being my guest today, and I hope you can come back to be with me when you write your next book, okay?

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Well, that sounds great. God bless you, Doc.

SPEAKER_03 25:16

Thank you, sir. All right, you're listening to More Than Medicine. We'll be back again next week. Until then, remember Jesus loves you and your doctor loves you. And until then, may the Lord bless you. Real good.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

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