The Midlife Feast
The Midlife Feast
#153 - Style Joy in Midlife: What to Do When Nothing Feels Right with Dacy Gillespie
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Standing in your closet thinking, "Nothing fits anymore?" It’s not the best feeling, but can I let you in on something? You don’t have to hold onto your “lose weight wardrobe”. In this encouraging conversation, stylist Dacy Gillespie helps us reframe how we think about style in midlife, especially when our bodies, styles, and preferences have changed.
Together, we explore why comfort isn’t “giving up,” how style can help you reconnect with who you are now, and why that “lose weight wardrobe” may be doing more harm than good. You’ll also get a big dose of validation: most clothes aren’t made to fit you—and that’s a design flaw, not a personal one.
If getting dressed has felt frustrating or disconnected lately, this episode offers a refreshing new lens: style as self-care, self-expression, and an invitation to show up for yourself just as you are today.
Connect with Dacy:
The Website: https://www.mindfulcloset.com
Instagram: @mindfulcloset
Substack: Unflattering
Like what you learned? Check out these other episodes!
- Redefining Personal Style in Midlife with Dacy Gillespie
- The Body Acceptance Mistake That’s Keeping You Stuck in the Suck
- Trusting Your Body: Finding Peace Through Grief with Nina Manolson
- From Body Grief to Body Acceptance: The Way Forward with Amanda Mittman, RD
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Hi and welcome to the Midlife Feast, the podcast for women who are hungry for more in this season of life. I'm your host, dr Jenn Salib-Huber. I'm an intuitive eating dietitian and naturopathic doctor and I help women manage menopause without dieting and food rules. Come to my table, listen and learn from me trusted guest experts in women's health and interviews with women just like you. Each episode brings to the table juicy conversations designed to help you feast on midlife. And if you're looking for more information about menopause, nutrition and intuitive eating, check out the midlife feast community, my monthly membership that combines my no nonsense approach that you all love to nutrition with community, so that you can learn from me and others who can relate to the cheers and challenges of midlife.
Jenn Salib Huber:Hi, everyone, welcome to this week's episode of the Midlife Feast.
Jenn Salib Huber:If you are someone who has opened your closet recently and thought I have nothing to wear, nothing fits, I don't want to go shopping, or maybe you have a lose weight wardrobe that maybe lives in your closet or lives at the back of your closet or lives in another closet and you just feel stuck because your body's changing.
Jenn Salib Huber:You're trying to be kind and respectful, but you just don't have anything that you like to wear, or maybe you feel like your style has changed as you go through midlife and menopause to wear, or maybe you feel like your style has changed as you go through midlife and menopause. Regardless of what you can relate to from everything that I just said, you are going to want to listen to this conversation with Daisy Gillespie. Daisy is a stylist and she's on Instagram. At mindfulcloset, she has an amazing sub stack called unflattering and we have a really great conversation just about how you can get curious about any of these feelings or thoughts that might be coming up around your style or your clothes, or just how to feel more confident and comfortable when you get dressed. Hi, daisy, welcome back to the Midlife Feast. I'm so excited to be with you again, jen, this is so fun.
Jenn Salib Huber:I'm so excited too. I feel like you're one of my oldest Instagram friends, you know, like back in the pandemic days when all of us were spending lots of time on Instagram trying to find communities, and you know people to hang out with your account which we'll certainly talk about your work in a minute but your account just really spoke to me as like a safe place to kind of explore some of the feelings that I was having about changing bodies and styles and midlife, and I've just always really appreciated how honest you've been about your own experience too.
Dacy Gillespie:So thank you for that. Yeah Well, first of all back at you, because I am in the perimenopause phases and your account has been so helpful and informational for me too.
Jenn Salib Huber:Social media can be a good place. Sometimes it can be in small doses. We just have to find our safe spaces, Yep. So I want to talk about style. So you've been on the podcast before, You've been a guest expert in my community in the Midlife Feast.
Jenn Salib Huber:But I also want to kind of tie this conversation about style into a very familiar feeling of not feeling like myself anymore. So I've talked about this before, because this is actually a group of symptoms that are being studied by researchers that so many of us who are going through or have gone through midlife, perimenopause, menopause, have many, many moments of I just don't feel like myself anymore. So on the physical side, we know that that's related to sleep changes, mood changes, libido changes. There definitely are some physical symptoms that we can pinpoint on hormones, but I also think a big part of it is that our style is evolving. What we like is evolving, but many of us have very complicated relationships with food, either past or in the present. But I'd love your take on is that? Am I right about that? Is our style evolving and is that part of that discomfort of not feeling like myself anymore?
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, absolutely. And the way that you mentioned that it's kind of like we don't know what we like anymore, I think is almost the biggest piece of it. So if you think about that time in our life, often we've been giving all of ourselves to other things for quite some time, right, like maybe it was work, maybe it was kids. And then we get this moment where it's almost like we kind of wake up and we're like, yeah, who am I now? Where we kind of it's almost like we kind of wake up and we're like, yeah, who am I now?
Dacy Gillespie:And I think for me I always say that figuring out your style and thinking about clothing is just one way to practice listening to that inner voice, right.
Dacy Gillespie:And so I think in midlife, so many women are waking up to the fact that they don't know what they like anymore because they've been doing what everybody else needed for so long, and so they don't know what they want to eat, they don't know how to spend their time, they don't know what they want to wear, and I think that is such a time when we have to connect back into all of those things and just start trying to kind of let everything settle so that we can hear what wants to come out.
Dacy Gillespie:You know what our true desires are, and especially with clothing, we all have all these rules in our head that we've been taught, and so, with clothing, I think it's almost extra hard to listen to what it is that we want and what we prefer, because, again, we have all these shoulds in our head of like you should wear, you know, waist-defining clothes, or you should wear things that highlight your smallest part of your body, or you shouldn't wear horizontal stripes, like whatever the rules we were taught. It's hard to unlearn those and tap into what we like.
Jenn Salib Huber:Oh my gosh, that is so true. And the other thing that I find well, I found for myself, still find, because I'm not a style conscious person I do feel like my style has changed, but one of the you know kind of disconnects that I have felt is I'm less invested in what my clothing looks like. I think that's part of that lovely. You know, no more fucks to give in midlife.
Dacy Gillespie:Like I don't care, jen. I literally have that in my notes. Yeah, no more Fs to give.
Jenn Salib Huber:Yeah. So like part of me and I hear this from lots of people too it's like I'm just not as invested as I was at like 25 to find the right outfit and yet I also really appreciate and value clothing that makes me feel good, that makes me feel comfortable. That is part of the confidence in how I present, but it has very little to do at least now, I think with how it looks to other people. And that's kind of how I've noticed my style has evolved. I'm very much about like what is the fabric? If it has any polyester nylon, it's like an automatic. No, because that like heats me up like a furnace. But I'm also drawn to more colors. Despite still having very much a love affair with black, I am still drawn to more colors than I ever would have been at 20. Like, I sometimes wear pink. Now my mother still dies of shock. So, like, what other ways have you noticed that like style evolves or that maybe we feel disconnected a little bit even?
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, well, I think so much about our lives has changed, and what a lot of people, I don't think, take into account is that your personal style has a lot to do with your lifestyle, right, like you may love the look of cocktail dresses, but if you live in the burbs with your kids, you know that's not something that's going to get much action.
Dacy Gillespie:So, definitely, I think once we get to definitely kind of like the perimenopausal phase, we start to move away from dressing for the male gaze, right, and so it's a little bit more we're. You know, hopefully this is the case for most of us is that we're starting to prioritize our feelings and our needs over that external view. Right, and so you know, yeah, a lot of people are like I am not going to wear heels anymore, I'm not going to wear something that pinches at the waist, and those are all amazing things, right, but it means that you have to figure out a way to do style in a way that's different than you've done in the past. Right, because in the past, in our 20s, we all ran around in heels and tried to look hot and all these things, and that's not a priority anymore. But that means we can't go back to the same. You know rules that we were using before.
Jenn Salib Huber:How do we do that? How do we make that shift without feeling like we're just giving up? I'm going to give an example from someone I was talking to a couple of weeks ago. She's a lawyer, she works in a courtroom. She has, you know, a specific style that she wears in the courtroom. She has, you know, a specific style that she wears in the courtroom which is, you know, typically like the pantsuit or the skirt suit and the heels.
Jenn Salib Huber:And you know we've been working on kind of prioritizing comfort and she wore flats one day and she couldn't believe how much less distracting it was to just have comfortable shoes on and it was a game changer for her right. But that internal conflict of what will people think, what does it look like? Does it make me look a certain way, like that's a lot of noise that you have to overcome. And I think you know, when I think of other conversations that I've had with people prioritizing comfort, prioritizing body respect, body kindness, wearing clothes that fit their body today, that are comfortable, it's often the like well, it's going to make me look a certain way and I don't feel comfortable with that. How do you work through that?
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, I mean that is tough and I actually even want to kind of nitpick the way that you phrased it, which you said kind of how do we go for comfort without feeling like we're giving up? And I think even that is like a little bit of the patriarchy in action, right Of like, why does comfort have to mean giving up?
Jenn Salib Huber:Is that?
Dacy Gillespie:because we're not performing again for the male gaze anymore. And that is you know. It's like if we don't toe the line and stay in line, then we are just dismissed as you're letting yourself go, you're giving up. So I think a piece of this is just a mindset shift of you know, just telling you, literally telling yourself like just because I want to be comfortable does not mean I'm giving up.
Dacy Gillespie:You know, what I mean. I mean this, just this is not something I've ever thought about before, but it just kind of occurred to me. So I think a bit of it is that reframe. And then also, you know, again, there's so many stories we've been told right, and that we tell ourself, and one is that you have to suffer for fashion. Right, beauty is pain.
Dacy Gillespie:So let's start getting used to the idea that actually you can be comfortable and stylish Like it has never been easier to be comfortable and stylish, like sneakers are in style, elastic waist are in style, like that does not have to be mutually exclusive. And then I think it's really interesting to just your, the person you were speaking to, their experience, which is that if we don't allow for that, if we don't allow for comfort and for what our body needs, we are going to be constantly pulled out of, feeling embodied. We're going to be constantly either reminded that we have a body when maybe we just want to be thinking about our work or our caregiving, and we're also going to be pulled back, know, pulled back into kind of the body checking or the thinking about like, oh, these pants are so tight, oh, I need to lose weight. You know what I mean. The more that our clothes are comfortable and that, specifically, that they fit our current body, the less we are pulled into that negative headspace to that negative headspace.
Jenn Salib Huber:Yeah, and it's such a great reminder that you know when we are distracted by you know feeling the waistline, you know, or the button of your jeans or you can't bend over comfortably, that invites judgment and criticism Versus just existing in your body and comfortable clothes. You may still be aware of parts that maybe you're still working on finding that comfortable space in, but you're not constantly reminded about the thought. You have a little bit of space there, some breathing room, literally and figuratively. The other thing that I love and I mean this has been a stereotype of you know that the older we get, the more colorful, the more bling, the more you know all that we, you know you see those, you know stereotypical images of you know women in their 70s and 80s who definitely don't care what other people think.
Jenn Salib Huber:How can you know we think of style as a tool for reclaiming or maybe even claiming for the first time, like this new identity, this second season, and because there's a lot of shifts that happen between perimenopause and postmenopause. Our brain is remodeling, there's a lot of things we let go of, there's a lot of things we welcome in, and I do feel like style and taste is part of that identity. So how can people do that? Or what are some tools for exploring new styles? Because I'm a creature of habit and so I will always be attracted to like the black t-shirt dress, but I don't always choose it now because I'm like well, I have a few of those that I love, but I'm actually wanting to explore other colors, for example, yeah, yeah.
Dacy Gillespie:So I think you know, as we were talking about earlier, this is a great place to practice listening to that inner voice and allowing for change. I think that's a big thing, is that a lot of times we get to this point and again we're trying to emulate, like maybe our younger style or something you know that we did 20 years ago, and I think it's just such a great opportunity for just checking in with, like, what do I like now? You know, what is something that I do want to explore? Personally, actually, I've been going through this whole like colorful renaissance, like I was, you know, for 20 years mostly black, all neutrals, very minimalist and I'm trying to explore kind of why this has been happening. And I think for me, a piece of it is now that I have some more brain space. My, you know, kind of my feelings and desires to experiment with this have had room to kind of expand. My kids are getting a little bit older, I am less in the struggle mode, and so for me this is feeling like a really fun creative project to kind of explore this. Yeah, I mean, I think, in terms of exploring the place, I always start is with gathering inspiration, and so that's where I started.
Dacy Gillespie:Personally, I just started to be attracted to more colorful images on Pinterest and started pinning more, started kind of really curating like what do I like? Do I like colorful prints? Do I like the way that these two colors play off of each other? Do I like the contrast? Kind of trying to figure out what it is that really pleases my eye, because, honestly, I really get this little spark.
Dacy Gillespie:It feels exciting to see some of the images. And, of course, there's lots of ways we can talk about making sure you have a diversity of bodies on your Pinterest board. But that's a great place to start. And then secondhand clothing is a great place to start with exploration, because it's a low risk way to kind of yeah, let me see if I like this dress in a different color, let me see how it actually feels, really somatically, to put it on my body and then leave my home in it, because sometimes that actually we might feel good in something when we try it on at home and the safety of our home, and then we kind of go out in the world and maybe we don't feel as safe or as comfortable. So I think those are a few ways that you could really allow for that just expansion of kind of your ideas of what your style could be. It doesn't have to be the same that it was before you had kids.
Jenn Salib Huber:I love that you basically described food joy, but for clothes, totally, absolutely. It's food joy, just that spark, that excitement, that like, I really like this and therefore this is what I want.
Dacy Gillespie:I love that, yeah, and you have to try them, right, you have to try foods to know if you're going to crave that taste later, and so, yeah, it's the same with clothes. I mean, it's harder perhaps. We can't all buy everything that we want, but again, I think there's ways to play with it.
Jenn Salib Huber:Yeah, definitely ways to play with it. So I want to shift gears a little bit and kind of talk a little bit about our changing bodies.
Jenn Salib Huber:And so most people who are going through perimenopause experience a change in what their body looks like, what it feels like, what we see in the mirror. Part of that is some hormonal shifts that result in this redistribution of assets. As listeners will recognize me saying so, we do go from a little bit more of a pear shape to an apple shape. We can also have some other changes around muscle mass and fat mass, but the point is is that bodies change. A human body is a changing body. That is the reality.
Jenn Salib Huber:We can't control it in the way that we maybe would have liked to or would still like to, but it really, I think, acts like a bit of quicksand when it comes to our clothing, especially if you haven't experienced a lot of body changes leading up to this point in life. So maybe your body has been relatively stable, either in size or in shape, and so you've just had a brand, you've had your favorite pair of jeans, you've had your favorite brand of underwear, and now your body changes and whatever you're doing feels like it just doesn't fit anymore. And what I hear from so many women is I just wish I could find clothes that fit my body today, or I just wish that I could find jeans that I could feel comfortable in. How do you because I know that you work with people who are going through that too what are some of the ways that we can maybe use these tools of like curiosity and exploration to kind of shift that quicksand feeling?
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, a few things are popping to mind. I mean, one is that this is absolutely a process that I've gone through myself and I just want to name and validate for anyone who's feeling like very like you said on quicksand very disconcerted, very uncertain, and that you maybe don't even recognize your body in the mirror. I feel that, you know, I think that's very common and so one piece of it is, you know, the familiarity that it's just different. It's different when you look in the mirror. What you see is different and how you feel Excuse me and the fit, you know, the fit of your clothes is going to be different and so, just again, allowing for that, the change, you know what I mean. Just we can't go into it expecting that everything's going to fit the same way, that we can go out, like you said, and buy the same thing.
Jenn Salib Huber:Sorry, kind of lost my train of thought. Think about like dealing with body changes, yeah.
Dacy Gillespie:And then I think the other thing that's really important is for people to have realistic expectations around shopping, and so this is something that I talk about all the time, because I just this morning got off of a call with someone who was looking for an outfit for their child's wedding and is frustrated, and then, when I started to dig deeper, it turned out that she had tried on four or five items and you know, I think I just put it up. Today, I put up a post on Instagram about how women are not mass produced, but clothing is Right. So there's obviously going to be this mismatch and it's going to be hard to find clothes that fit, regardless of your size or shape, regardless of whether it's different than it was before, and so I always tell people that in my 12 years of doing this, I have seen that one out of 10 items you try will work.
Jenn Salib Huber:Wow.
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, and that's really what I see. So I know if I pull 50 or 60 items for a client to try on. I know if I pull 50 or 60 items for a client to try on that, you know if we get four or five, that's successful. And so I think people really have to adjust their expectations. Where I talk to people all the time who order two or three things online and then are devastated that they didn't work out and we just have to go into it knowing that like 90% chance it's not going to, so you better order a bunch.
Jenn Salib Huber:So really finding something off the rack is the unicorn.
Dacy Gillespie:Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I mean all of these companies. This is a crazy story that I heard from Virginia Sol Smith. But you know, all clothing companies have a pattern that they make clothes off of, and then they often will bring in someone called a fit model so that they can try the samples on this person and then maybe make adjustments where they need to. Well, I always thought, well, they find their fit model and they make the pattern off of that person. But that's not the case. What they do is they create this pattern who knows from where, out of their brains, and then they literally audition models to see who fits in their clothes. So it is literally. The pattern is not even based on a real human, and then they go out and look for the unicorn who does fit their clothes to be their fit model. So if the models out there aren't fitting the clothes, you know what are we to do.
Jenn Salib Huber:Yeah, oh my gosh. And yeah, I mean, we're not even talking about, like, diverse bodies here. We're probably talking about this is a straight size body example, right? And so you know, if you are not in a straight size body or if you have a straight size body, that is not the typical shape you know in terms of dimensions. It's probably going to be a lot more than a lot less than one in 10 things will fit right.
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, yeah, I think one in 10 is still good. I think that's really kind of been the average. But again, it's just, it's that expectation. It's not fun for some people and they might enjoy it, but it just is going to take time and effort and that is kind of a bummer. But again, I think knowing that that's the way it is for everyone that's not your body that's making it hard can just shift the way that you approach it.
Jenn Salib Huber:Before we go on to the next question I wanted to just share.
Jenn Salib Huber:I was sharing this with you before we hit record.
Jenn Salib Huber:But someone in our community had a bit of an aha moment last year when she was shopping for jeans.
Jenn Salib Huber:She'd spent a lot of time trying to find jeans that fit her you know, kind of new midlife body, was having a really hard time and then had this kind of epiphany that she just needed to size up. But she was so focused on like this is the size that I am and I have to find jeans in this size, even though intellectually she knew she had seen all the posts and examples of how size is really meaningless because every brand has their own size and you've just, you know, added to that. But it was such an aha moment for her that, like you know, just by being able to be curious about well, let me just try my favorite jeans on in the next size up, and as soon as she did and she put them on and they fit and they were comfortable she didn't think about it anymore. She had a moment of like I don't like this size. But it didn't stay with her because she was no longer constantly thinking about I don't have any jeans to wear. Right, she was able to just like move on.
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, I mean, I always say that like one of the absolute most concrete and tangible things you can do to feel better in your body today is to buy clothes that fit can do. To feel better in your body today is to buy clothes that fit right. The second, that they're not pulling and pushing on you like you just said, like it just it becomes something you don't have to think about. And definitely, yeah, going a size up. It's interesting, like when I hear you say that I, you know no offense to this person, but I think, well, duh, like just get a size up. But I think, you know, I've just been doing this so long and it makes me think of a client that I'm currently working with who basically had the same experience.
Dacy Gillespie:She is grieving the fact that she worked with a different stylist a couple of years ago. They went out and bought a beautiful wardrobe and then her body has changed. She was still in some disordered eating habits at that time and now she's recovering and her body has changed and she's really grieving these beautiful clothes that she had purchased. And so, you know, I was shopping for her and then, and as we were going through her closet, she kind of showed me all the stuff that she did love, and it occurred to me as well.
Dacy Gillespie:I was like, well, did you think about just ordering these same things in a size up? Because again, it hadn't been that long, a lot of these things were probably still available, and again it just hadn't occurred to her. So I mean, I know that's the case and again this is an experience I've had. There is a particular pair of pants that I can think of that I have had in three different sizes and every time I outgrow one size I go on Poshmark, find the same pants and next size up, and then you know, and then I'm set. But but yeah, it is something. Again, I think we're just so conditioned to think that bodies don't change that we can't even kind of grasp the idea that it could be that simple.
Jenn Salib Huber:So this is a perfect kind of lead into my last question. So many people who've gone through body changes either direction often have a lose weight wardrobe. It is sometimes a very large part of their closet, sometimes it lives at the back, sometimes it lives in another closet. But what do you say to someone who feels like they can't express their style or that they don't deserve to express their style until they lose weight? And part B to that question is what's your advice for that lose weight wardrobe?
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, well, again, I think this makes perfect sense and I think we have to all give ourselves some compassion, because, from the moment we were aware of beauty and bodies, we've been told that there's one acceptable way to have a body and that that is the only acceptable body that can be stylish, because that's all we've seen, right. We've even pre-social media for those of us well, I guess we're all in midlife so we all remember but on TV shows and movies and actresses and paparazzi photos, all of those things, all we've seen is that body being stylish. Seen are is that body being stylish, and so just recognizing that that's a lie that we've been told. You know that only thin bodies can be stylish, and then you kind of have to prove it to yourself by exposing yourself to a diversity of bodies that are stylish. And again, that's something that you know. I will work with clients on Pinterest. Once we've kind of identified at least a little bit of the keywords for their style, then we'll go back and we'll start looking for that style in all sizes of bodies and we'll be adding those to their boards.
Dacy Gillespie:Our eye can be retrained. It really can. I mean, I've done it myself. Now I will say sometimes, when I go to a retailer's website and I see, you know, models of a certain size that looks odd to me, whereas, you know, 10 years ago, maybe, the bigger bodies looked odd to me. And so it is possible to do that, but it's very hard, um, and so it is possible to do that, um, but it's very hard, it takes again. This all takes some effort, but it's it's completely worth it, um, and there are many, many, many very stylish people out there in all sizes of bodies.
Dacy Gillespie:So, um, as for that, you know, when I lose weight wardrobe, I mean, I have a lot of feelings about it, I have a lot of ideas about it. You know, the first thing I will say is, of course, that makes sense, that makes perfect sense. You know that's something that we don't want to let go of, and if we do, you know there's probably a fear of grieving that. You know that, the feelings that that's going to bring up. I think that is a really effective step towards moving towards body acceptance. I think that can be, again, a tangible thing that you can do to move you down the path. I also think you have to be gentle with yourself and sometimes maybe you need to hold on to a few of those things.
Dacy Gillespie:But what I would say is look at it critically. Look at these clothes critically. Let's say you, you know, for some reason did lose weight. Are these the clothes you're going to want to wear? Are they really? Do you really love them that much? If you love some of them, great, let's hold on to those. But whatever you hold on to cannot live in the prime real estate in your closet. It has to be stored away. It has to be stored out of sight. It has to be stored away. It has to be stored out of sight. We don't need those clothes facing us every morning. Not only is it kind of bad vibes, but it just makes it harder to get dressed. If you have to shuffle past a bunch of things that don't fit to get to something that you can actually wear today, that is a huge amount of energy that is being drained and this it's not worth it. Those clothes are not worth it.
Jenn Salib Huber:I think that's great advice, especially to get it out of your closet. You know whole, if you open up your closet every morning and it's this constant barrage of doesn't fit, doesn't fit, doesn't fit, doesn't fit, that is not being kind and respectful to your body today. You know it's, we can, and anybody who has gone through body changes can understand it. You know we, everybody has been through that but it doesn't, it doesn't help. You Like it's not motivating to look at clothes that don't fit Not that anybody needs motivation, you know, for weight loss per se but just like it's not motivating for anything for getting dressed.
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, and it's not kind to yourself Like you were just saying, it's really, you know. Think about what is the purpose of those clothes taking up that space and perhaps think, if these are not going to get used by me, perhaps someone else could use them and maybe they would be better served in another location else could use them and maybe they would be better served in another location.
Jenn Salib Huber:Yeah, that's amazing advice. Thank you so much for this conversation. I feel like I like peppered you with all these questions, but I always appreciate your wisdom on this. So here's my last question what do you think is the missing ingredient in midlife, Daisy?
Dacy Gillespie:Well, the thing that I have been adding to my midlife that I have been missing for a long time is pleasure, and so, yeah, just that spark kind of excitement that I was talking about earlier. I'm having so much fun playing with my clothes and that means actually buying quite a few new things, you know and playing around with them, and that is so much fun, you know, and playing around with them, and that is so much fun, again, you know, kind of being out of the earlier years of parenting.
Jenn Salib Huber:Let's just say there are other ways we're exploring pleasure as well. That's awesome. I love that. Where can people find you if they want to learn more or work with you? I know you have a group program that runs a few times a year, but where can people find you?
Dacy Gillespie:Yeah, so my website is mindfulclosetcom. I'm also on Substack. My Substack is called Unflattering, and then I'm on Instagram at mindfulcloset as well.
Jenn Salib Huber:Amazing. We'll have all those links in the show notes.
Dacy Gillespie:Thank you so much, Jen Thank you so much for joining me. So fun Thank you.
Jenn Salib Huber:Thanks for tuning in to this week's episode of the Midlife Feast. For more non diet, health, hormone and general midlife support, click the link in the show notes to learn how you can work and learn from me. And if you enjoyed this episode and found it helpful, please consider leaving a review or subscribing, because it helps other women just like you find us and feel supported in midlife.
