How A Couple Turned Brokenness Into Purpose And A Movement Called Wealth Is Wisdom with The Josephs

It's therapy Thursday!!!

A weekend blowup turned into a breakthrough. We start with a raw mother–daughter moment and move straight into a wide-open conversation with the Josephs, a young married couple whose story blends faith, attraction, vision, and a hard pivot from “negative broke” to purpose-driven building. Their last name, Joseph—“increase”—frames everything: why vision alignment matters more than chemistry, how “equally yoked” looks in real life, and why wisdom is the engine of sustainable wealth, not just a nice idea.

We sit with the real stuff: lust and honesty, backsliding and growth, repossessions and second chances, and the kind of grief that changes your voice. Janet shares lessons from decades of marriage and the quiet power of gratitude as spiritual medicine for anxiety and depression. Candace connects those insights to mental health and agency, pointing to the 988 Lifeline and a simple truth: testimony breaks shame. The energy shifts when the Josephs unpack Dream Out Loud and the spark that became Wealth Is Wisdom. Scripture meets strategy as they translate purpose into practical steps—credit literacy, clarifying offers, finding your ideal client, copy that converts, and launch plans that move ideas into income.

This is not a prosperity pitch. It’s a blueprint for abundance across domains—money, relationships, health, and mission—built on aligned values and consistent action. If you’ve ever felt stuck between calling and bills, or wondered why church talks tithes without teaching wealth, this conversation offers language, tools, and courage to move. We close with details on the Detroit conference, panels, breakouts, and an affordable AI-assisted product builder designed to help you ship value now.

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Ijanae Joseph

Ijanea Joseph is a traveling evangelist, serial entrepreneur, and full-time real estate investor. She has been in ministry since age 19, preaching the gospel and sharing the love of Jesus across the U.S. and internationally.

In 2022, God called her deeper into entrepreneurship—starting in real estate and expanding into brand-building and digital business. Today, she helps Christians discover their God-given purpose, build their influence, and monetize their wisdom using social media. Through her coaching, storytelling, and content, she empowers people to step boldly into their assignment and build wealth God’s way.

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Chapters

• 0:00 From Weekend Fight To Hard-Won Grace
• 2:59 Meet The Josephs And A Name With Meaning
• 7:06 Dating, Faith, Attraction, And Red Flags
• 12:15 What Being Equally Yoked Really Means
• 18:45 Wisdom From Marriage, Divorce, And Grief
• 24:35 Gratitude As Spiritual Medicine
• 26:55 From Broke To Building Dream Out Loud
• 31:30 Wealth Is Wisdom: The Spark And Vision
• 36:20 Purpose, Scripture, And Practical Wealth
• 41:20 Activation, Panels, And Breakouts
• 44:50 Tickets, Community, And Next Steps
• 48:30 Resources, 988, And Closing Blessing

Transcript

Candace Patrice: 0:04

Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Essential Mental Healing, where I am your host, Candace Patrice. Hello, everyone. And joining me today, of course, is my lovely co-host, my mother, Janet Hellman. Hello, everyone. Hello, hello, hello. Y'all, we had a we had a big old fight this weekend and we're recovering, but we love each other, and that's awesome. Uh, so we always keep y'all on our journey, so that y'all know. And everything is usually green and peaches and unicorns, but y'all, we had things and it sucks, but we we got through it. And I will say this um take the time to go on the journey, no matter how hard the journey is. It's always worth it, especially when you love someone. So put on your big girl pants and get through it. It's not gonna be easy, it's gonna have some things that come up, and you're gonna think about it and later be like, dang, I wanna still say this. But at the end of the day, I think um it's important to love who you love and love them hard and know that they are worth fighting for. So I'm gonna say that to start the podcast because we had a big old fight. And I need the world to know that me and my mama had a big old fight. So and we still here. Look at that, and we still here, period. Uh, but we have some amazing guests with us today as well. Ma, did you want to say anything? I know you're over to crack it up. Let's go ahead.

Janet Hale: 1:41

I wanted to say this because we had a big one, and I and it was only 17 minutes. Oh, you know, and in my mind, it was a whole hour. I was like, and we were in this fight for this whole hour, and it was uh, but I think the thing about having um the big fight is realizing that the big fight is a lot of unresolved little fights. And that's how you get to the big fight. That's all that's my wisdom.

Candace Patrice: 2:08

Boom, boom. Boom. You know what? I think that's a great segue for our guests. Our guests are actually married, and I'm sure that throughout the journey, they've had to go through some big things or find out that the big thing wasn't as big as they thought it was because it was a bunch of small things. Or not. I mean, we get to find out what their journey has been as individuals and as a couple. We've only had a couple of couples on the show in the whole five seasons. So um you guys are actually, I want to say our first guest for this season. First couple first guest of this season.

Ijanae: 2:49

Wow.

Candace Patrice: 2:50

Yeah, of this season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, Marquel um reached first of all, let's introduce them. So we have the we have the Joseph, Ajaine and Marquel Joseph. Hello, welcome, welcome, welcome. Um as we were actually getting on, I just found out that Joseph has some significant meaning. And I mean, can we just jump into it real quick? Can you tell us about your last name and then tell us about yourself? I know that's so backwards, but let's let's do it that way.

Marquall Joseph: 3:30

Of course, he can he can tell the story of how his grandma started with his grandma and I I just married into the name, but yeah, so honestly, my grandma, she was attending this uh Detroit church, and um she was young, I mean, beautiful. I remember when I walked into her room. This is like when I was like uh what preteen, like probably like 13. And I was like, dang, that who's that? He was like, that's your grandmother. I was like, oh no, no, they ain't grandma. And I looked, I showed her the picture, she was like, Yeah, that was me. I was like, what? Uh but anyways, she was beautiful, and um, she was attending this Detroit church, and she was married to uh to my father's father, right? And it was one particular night, the pastor told them all the females to like stay in this um one room to lock in. So so so it's like a fast lock-in, right? And she was telling me about that. So all of them spend the night in this one room, and they said something big was about to happen that night. So all of them was in there, and all of the sisters asleep, but my grandma, she was kinda up, right? And all she sees is this light just opening, like door was open, but it was closed. But all she saw was this whole figure of a light, and saw this feet, and touched her head, and specifically told her to change your name, your last name into Joseph, and just walked away. So she like she felt the presence to where she didn't want to move, she didn't want to breathe, she didn't want to blink, she didn't want to do nothing, but this whole figure told her, change your last name into Joseph. So after that whole situation, she gets up, she goes to uh to her husband at that time, she told him, and he threw a whole big fit. You know, he was drinking, all that stuff, and to the point where he was about to like, hey, he's putting his hands on her, but hey, she grabbed something, she you know, she got him, clocked him all that, and divorced him. And it's the fact that she was willing to be obedient and said, God told me to change my last name, I'ma change my last name into Joseph.

Ijanae: 6:21

And it's just um And then she like potentially get remarried, and then she just still refused to change her last name.

Marquall Joseph: 6:30

No, no, she didn't get remarried like that.

Candace Patrice: 6:35

She didn't want to change her last name, she did not get remarried, she the she got pregnant by that man, but it's like and she carried the last name, so the baby had Joseph's last name, yes, she carried that last name away for her whole life. Was her baby a boy? Yes, ah, so the name Joseph carries, yes, the name Joseph carries. Ah, nice, that's awesome. Tell us a little bit about you all as individuals. Thank you for sharing that. Wait, what did you say what Joseph means, though? No, we know how we got the name, tell us what it means.

Ijanae: 7:16

Yeah, the the name Joseph, and it comes from the Bible, it's a Hebrew name, and it literally means blessing or increase. So our name literally means increase. So I knew when we got married. So when you read the Bible, um, especially in anything in Hebrew, even the letters themselves have meaning. Um, like in like in English, we just put letters together and it creates a word. Um, but in Hebrew, they're building a word and they're building the meaning. So literally, each letter literally has a meaning and it's a word, right? Um, even when you look at the word Yahweh, look at the word Adonai, whatever it is, and what's crazy when you study Hebrew, everything actually points to Jesus. It literally, some letters literally means two hands nailed on the cross, and and that's just the beauty beauty of it, of the of the Hebrew language that God was so specific that it points to Jesus. And so, nevertheless, um, so yes, it literally means blessing or increase. So, just our entire story of even how how our marriage, how we how we met, how we dated, family not being with it, friends not being with it, um, struggling financially, but then having some increase, almost making six figures, losing that money, and our rebuilding that wealth to into until you know wealth is wisdom. Our story is crazy, of course. We're gonna get into it. Um, but you know, to tell us a little about myself. So we're four years apart. I'm 27, um, and you're 23, right? Yes. And I'm doing math correctly. Okay, yeah. That's okay, be like that. Yes. So I'm a cougar, but and each year the numbers change.

Candace Patrice: 8:49

So you're rapping the cradle, okay.

Ijanae: 8:54

But yes, life and young, but no. Um no, I uh my husband not in a creepy way, but my husband and I are yeah, I guess so. We met, they're a mutual friend, mutual friend. I was dating the guy, and um, you know, we met on the street while he was street preaching, actually. And when I what is street preaching? What street preaching? Preaching on the street. I'm doing it.

Marquall Joseph: 9:17

Just saying the word, just saying the word on the street.

Ijanae: 9:20

Okay, okay. So um, but um, so I remember when I saw it was like him, the guy I was dating at the time, and then this other guy, and the guy uh I was dating at the time, amazing man of God, but honestly, I wasn't physically attracted to him. I only dated him because there were prophetic words that he was my husband, and so you guys gotta watch out for look, even for people that you love and know, okay. And so I was about to be locked into a marriage that I didn't really want just because of prophetic words, right? And so when I seen Marquel and this other guy, I looked to a friend and I said, Where are these where have these men been been on my all my life? They are fine, okay? I didn't know Christian men could be this fine, okay? And but you know, Marquel was 19 at the time, and I was 20 something, so I'm like, I'm not dating no 19 boy, 19-year-old boy. He's just out fresh out of high school, blah blah blah. He and he just got saved. I'm like, no, I'm good. Plus, he was dating somebody that I didn't know at the time, and uh it's a whole story with that, but um, so that's how it works, and then he dished our friend group, dished the lore for a bit, backslid with the girl, um, and then broke up with the girl, and immediately he hits me up as the first person he after breaking up with her. So that I was a little fishy with that, right? You're talking about hey, me and the girl just broke up. I need a sister in Christ. Why don't you need a brother in Christ? Why are you hitting me up? Right?

Candace Patrice: 10:43

Okay, okay, this ain't fishy, like a little weak point.

Ijanae: 10:48

You don't you don't wanna do that? Okay, anyway, and so I was like, sure, whatever. And we just started talking.

Marquall Joseph: 10:57

I got my reasons anyway.

Candace Patrice: 11:00

I mean, your reasons was right, she's your wife.

Ijanae: 11:06

Look, and I'm gonna keep it short, but yeah, like he's calling me every day, text me a hundred times a day. Mind you, he had no friends, so I'm like, what do you want? And so, um, and I'm the type of girl that I don't like to show my feelings, and so I'm like, oh god, gosh, I'm gonna catch feelings for this guy, but he's a babe, he's a baby Christian. Like, I'm like, here, I've done this, I've done that, I've been traveling, I've been preaching, I cast out demons, I do all these things. This man barely knows this verse. Now I'm like, I'm not entertaining you, right? Um, but my past at the time just said, look, you let two good men go away, you're gonna let this one go away. And so when my past at the time said that, I was like, dang, he is fine.

Candace Patrice: 11:49

That was still a high priority at the time, okay? I mean you gotta love God and you gotta be fine, okay?

Ijanae: 11:58

Bro, you can call me shallow, I am shallow. All these not good-looking men pursuing me. I don't want you, and then I liked white boys at the time too. Loved white boys to be a jack, and so this was just different, and um, but anyway, let me just keep it short. So, yes, and um, he kept pursuing, he kept pursuing, but mind you, a part of our story, we were broke, broke, yeah. Like before we started dating, I mean, when I say broke, I mean broke, okay. Um, I don't know what happened to you.

Candace Patrice: 12:25

You broke with a positive number or broke with a negative number, bro.

Ijanae: 12:28

Like, it buried, it was dependent on the day, depending on the day, it was like, bro, no job, not keeping one, or the job was too low of an income, you know what I'm saying?

Marquall Joseph: 12:46

And it's just um we was even we was going to see a life coach as well, too, you know, to try to build our credit.

Ijanae: 12:57

I mean, you're skipping ahead. That's by the time we're already married. You're skipping ahead, skipping ahead.

Marquall Joseph: 13:01

Oh, skipping ahead, yeah. Okay, that's a different yeah, we can get there, and that's a whole story in itself, right?

Ijanae: 13:06

Like this guy essentially told us to get divorced. Mind you, um, I I don't believe in divorce at all, unless like the person is abusive or cheating on you, right? That's the only time I believe in divorce. Any any of that, you should fight for your marriage. That's my belief, right? And so he's just like, oh, you guys weren't ready, and you you should, it wasn't in the he said specifically um an annulment, which which pretty much means um because your marriage, I think it's like after before 90 days, you can your marriage can be annulled, which means um it was never like it's not really a legit thing right now, if you guys know it. So, yeah, and so it's like the warranty.

Candace Patrice: 13:47

You don't like it, just turn it back in.

Ijanae: 13:49

There you go. So, yeah, and so like I said, we were broke. I was I was in the process when he started pursuing of me fixing my credit, right? Getting my life together, and he just like he he wasn't taught any of this, right? And so I'm like, look, we're both broke, neither once I had my car got repolled that year, too. And it wasn't just because it wasn't because I was in responsibility, it was because I went on a six-month mission trip. So when you're a missionary, you people have to donate to you, right? And I only had enough for the mission trip. I didn't have enough for bills, and so my car gets repoled. I'm living with my past at the time, I'm not staying with my family. I barely get along with my family, my credit is trash. I'm working on my credit, I don't got no job, he ain't got no job, and the job he did get, he's just paying him $400 a month. His credit's trash, he don't know nothing about credit, and I'm just like, we can't get together, and he's a baby believer. Okay, I'm like, you can't leave me. No, what can we do?

Marquall Joseph: 14:45

I literally I did not have uh no vision. Um, I didn't know the purpose, all I knew was the Lord. Well, he had a vision.

Ijanae: 14:56

That vision was panties. That was his vision. The vision was a gift.

Candace Patrice: 15:01

I love the rawness, yes.

Ijanae: 15:06

But that's why he a lust coach, set a man free from lust to legacy in the name of Jesus. So there you go. But he didn't set free.

Marquall Joseph: 15:14

You just getting over me today.

Candace Patrice: 15:16

I love this. No, that's real. But here's the thing I think that people don't share the parts, or it's especially as a Christian, it's like you can't say that because if you say that, then that means you've you've done something big, bad. Or you know, you how dare you have these thoughts? Because you're a man of God. And it's like, wait a minute, man, I'm a human too. Listen, this is the story, this is the real life story. So thanks for sharing that. That's all. I'm glad that you're being wrong with it. So keep going, keep going. I'm interested.

Marquall Joseph: 15:49

Whoever, that's a part of your testimony, that's a part of your story. So whoever is is feeding uh like these men that's or women, you're making them shut down, you're making them think that oh, my testimony is it's bad, or it's like, man, that's not just that, you're you're normalizing wearing a mask when it comes to Jesus.

Ijanae: 16:15

Is that that's why I hate religion? That's why I despise religion because everyone's everyone they mama fake.

Marquall Joseph: 16:21

They want you to keep on smiling.

Candace Patrice: 16:24

What y'all don't know is that my mother is not religious. It's one if you ever go back and listen to the episode, it's a common thread. I'm not religious, I'm not religious, and it's a lot of what you're saying. This whole stigma behind religion, my mama can't do. She just can't do it.

Ijanae: 16:47

None of us are supposed to do it. Jesus didn't come to bring a religion, he came to bring a kingdom.

Marquall Joseph: 16:51

Yes, a kingdom, a sword.

Ijanae: 16:54

And he looked not about religion, it's a government. The Bible is the constitution of God's kingdom.

Marquall Joseph: 17:00

In the in the story that he brought you through, bruh.

Ijanae: 17:04

What what it says in his word that what the enemy, what he flee by the testimony, the power of the testimony, the blood of the lamb, the power of testimony, what is driving up from the enemy, it says in Revelation.

Marquall Joseph: 17:16

Yes, in Revelation.

Candace Patrice: 17:17

She wasn't playing, she she ain't no baby, okay? Did you hear that? You see that whole thing out there. She did. She was like, This is how I go, okay? For those searching, this is what it says.

Speaker 4: 17:30

Yes.

Candace Patrice: 17:31

Okay, so keep going, keep going, keep telling us more. So he was he was trying to get the panties, but yeah, then that's where we left off. Keep going.

Ijanae: 17:39

We we weren't with it, but nevertheless, like eventually, like I gave him a chance. Right, obviously, we're married. So, um, and that chance was a struggle. Like, you still didn't have a car. No, I still didn't have a car.

Candace Patrice: 17:53

Why did you choose to give him a chance? Um, knowing what his goal knowing what his goal was, knowing that he didn't meet the qualifications for yourself, the ex your self-expectations. What and and he was fine, but what gave you what made you decide to say, I'm still gonna give this particular man a chance to even get to a point where you felt he could be your husband?

Ijanae: 18:18

I love that question. It was one day we were on the phone, and then this is gonna segue to some marriage trivia. I know we've been married for a year, but they say just be one or two steps ahead of people. So for the single people, I was on the phone with him one day, and this is this is before we're talking, we're just friends having a conversation, okay? And I asked him, What's your vision? Like, what's the vision God gave you? Right? And he was like, Well, my vision, and he just went on about this youth can working with the youth and all on all these things, right? And when he's you know explaining his vision, in my head, I literally said, This is the same exact vision I have. This is my husband. I just knew I just knew that's because I feel like so many people just get married because the sex is good, because they look good, and because it kind of makes sense. But you don't you realize vision is a ministry? Let me let me not use Christianity, let me not use church anity, let me not use Christian knees. Your marriage is to serve other people, not just yourself. And so when he said that, I'm like, yeah, this is it. Our visions align. And this is why I believe so many people get divorced, right? Because either they gave up on each other or because at some point you stopped growing within each other. You never started with it with a vision for each other, you never started with a vision that aligned for you to even be together, or purpose that aligned for you to even be together. And so when people say we just grew apart, well, you are never really equally yoked because your vision, yeah, yeah, they might be a believer, right? But God has you going this way, this person has you is going that way.

Candace Patrice: 20:00

Can you break down what equally yoked means to you? And for people, because like we hear it a lot, and if uh equally yoked, you know, I just want to know what your version and vision of that is because it sounds like it could be very good. So, could I could I hear what that is? I've been talking a lot.

Ijanae: 20:19

Oh man, we probably got two different definitions. I'd like to hear both.

Marquall Joseph: 20:23

So, with me, my definition of equally yoked, because I was in a relationship two years. You know, two years. I was I was off track with the Lord. I moved away from my mom's. I mean, I out of church now, you know. This is unfamiliar where where I'm stepping into, you know, the the the place and the the atmosphere where I'm stepping into, I'm backsliding. So this is the whole scenery right here. And I was not equally yoked. Equally yoked means to me is if your spirit is unhappy, it's uneased. Your spirit is not getting fed, you're not reading your word like you used to, you're not really walking in the in the space of where God really wants you to be at. Even going to church, even being in the in the community that you say that you once basically a separation from your first love. That's what equally yoke means to me because I was separated from my first love. I was separated from my Lord and the people that he had around me that showed much love. And I was in a lust situation, I was in a lust relationship. I mean, I was doing things where I wasn't even supposed to, but the fact that the Lord was um still there with me, and he took me out of that, and he gave me that aspect in that area, in that arena where I can actually speak on this. And so I'm glad that you asked that because unequally yoked is where you have a dull spirit, your spirit man is dull with the person who you with because they don't have the Lord. They say that they love the Lord, but they don't really walk it, and you're walking in the same way how the way they walking it, smoking, drinking, partying, whatever they doing. You said that you was not gonna do, but you end up doing that. And your spirit man is this is why his word says, don't be equally yoked to the ungodly, to those who who drinks, to those who actually does the opposite of what you do. Because once you do it, your spirit man, you're gonna have a block. That's a blockage between you and the Lord. Like that whole thing is gonna take you away from your first love because it did it for me.

Candace Patrice: 23:19

So what's it for you, Regina?

Ijanae: 23:21

Yeah, so you know, biblically, um, Mark Will. Um essentially means um don't partner with those with someone who rejects God. Now, this doesn't mean um, I believe this doesn't mean don't associate with people who reject God, don't don't in terms of religious people, like, I'm not gonna hang out with you, I'm not gonna talk to you, I'm not going to ever even entertain you because you don't love God, right? But in terms of a closeness, a relationship, it doesn't make sense because you have two different values. And so this is where equally yoke comes in. It could be for friendship, it can be for romantic relationships, it can be for business partners. Do you share the same values? That's why when you go to a uh a company, they want to share their core values. Because if you don't allow them those core values, then you're not equally yoked. Is this making sense? And so it's a principle in different areas, right? And so, for example, my husband and I obviously the most important part to me was spiritually. Do you love the Lord? Okay, cool. Now, the next part would be okay. Um, are you fit? Do you like fitness? Because I'm I let it be real with him. I don't want you to gain weight. I don't like fat, I don't like big people. And that was an honest comment. He was like, Okay, cool. I I want you to stay fit too, right? You you can say that's shallow, you can say that's rude, you can say that's mean, that's fine. I'm not for you. That's a value for me. Fitness, eating right, being healthy. I mean, we've been slipping and dipping in the last two months, pizza, you know, and chicken wings, cookie boys, slipping and dipping, but dipping those cookies in the middle. That's what we've been slipping and dipping, okay?

Candace Patrice: 25:03

But um man, but we still it was just in time for Thanksgiving. Now you can get back on track, literally, okay.

Marquall Joseph: 25:10

Like, yeah, whatever, right? And I still want to get a plate after this. Go to my mom's group and get that plate.

Candace Patrice: 25:15

It's probably I feel like as long as there's leftovers, it's within rights to be eaten. Yeah, of course. At least for now. I mean, then you get back on track, you get back on track, amen.

Ijanae: 25:27

Yeah, um, but yeah, to keep it short, yes, like that. Do your core values align with one another, right? It isn't just it, it isn't just, hey, are you physically attractive and then is the sex good? Because to be honest, we didn't have sex until we were married, so I didn't I didn't know if the sex was good or not. I never had sex before, so I didn't know what sex was, you know what I mean?

Candace Patrice: 25:48

Like, excuse me, I heard you say something. Does that mean you lost your virginity to your husband? Okay, I'm I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You said I never had sex before, and so I think I got yeah, let's just move on. No, yeah, let's just move forward.

Ijanae: 26:05

There you go. People do miss, you can lose your virginity and rape, right? But um, but doesn't mean you have sex with your rapist. See the difference.

Candace Patrice: 26:17

That got a little deeper than I expected it to. I wasn't prepared for that. I was not prepared. Go, mother, go, mother, you take over, please.

Janet Hale: 26:26

There was some, there's so many things that's gone on in this conversation that I think is awesome. And I listened to Mrs. Joseph talk about Mr. Joseph and how in the beginning of the relationship he didn't have this, A, B, and C, and I was this, and I was that. And I was listening, I said, Oh, I would love to hear a conversation 10 years from now when it looks like this. I'm so glad that he chose me. Because in the real thing, he chose you, my love. And I hear you, I do. But he chose you. That man chose his wife. So I would love in 10 years, like I said, just to hear how this it all sounds 10 years from now. The other thing that I heard was concerning prayer um and making love or something in there. Anyway, and I went to this. And everyone who's listened to this podcast know I'm not religious.

unknown: 27:35

Okay.

Janet Hale: 27:36

But I think that sex is such a spiritual thing, and I think that it would behoove us who gets into it to have a prayer before you lay down. Or we do and make love to that. You follow where I'm going with this, and so I'm having so much enjoyment in this conversation and watching this couple in the beginning of their marriage, and actually in the beginning of your adulthood, you're at the beginning of it, and it's so beautiful to see to watch this dance that you're doing, and I have the honor to witness it. And for that, I thank you so much.

Candace Patrice: 28:23

Oh, you know, mom, I thank you for sharing that because what you just did for the last 30 minutes was observe the Josephs and listen deeply to what they've been sharing and offer some wise words of an elderly woman. I don't like the word elderly, but you know what I mean. Okay. Um, who comes with wisdom because my mother was married for over 30 years. Um, she was married twice to my brother's father and to my father, um, and also divorced twice, but also has a different story for both of those marriages, and also has a different perspective on marriage post to the death of the second husband. Um, and mom, if you don't mind, I would love if you would just give a little bit on your perspective on marriage, divorce, sticking it through. Just your perspective on that.

Janet Hale: 29:41

Oh wow, okay. So I'm I'm gonna go with the last marriage. The last marriage was the longest marriage. The last marriage was a marriage that I became a woman in. The last marriage is the marriage where I learned so much about myself, I learned so much. About how folk in relationships, how we stumble, we stumble through it. We we do what we can to make it through. I know what it's like. Oh man, that that last marriage, my last husband, there was so much anger in it for me. And we ended up divorcing. And I do think it was the correct thing to do. However, when I go all the way back, I don't even know if we should have gotten married. Then that turns into a whole thing. If I had married you, I wouldn't have had Candace. You know, that gets real all over the place. So I try not to do that to myself.

Candace Patrice: 30:40

Um, but after the journey you actually lived. Let's go with that one.

Janet Hale: 30:44

Yes. And then after his death, I started to mourn my marriage, my relationship, my I I lost a son in 2016. I all the mourning came up for me. And the things that, and that's why I was so interested in Mrs. Joseph when she was talking. Because for me, I was the one, and sometimes I still feel that way, you know, like I did the thing and I did the that, and ah da da da da da da da da da da da. But there was also some value that I that he provided for me. And one of the things I'm gonna mention is, and I'm okay with living alone, everybody knows me, know that I can get into this, is one of the things that I think about um when I would come home, my husband would say this when I opened that door, mama, mama, and for some reason that is such a beautiful thing to remember. It's so beautiful to remember. So that's why I said 10 years from now, I'm very curious to hear how this will sound. How will you sound in 10 years? How will you sound in 20? How will you sound in 30? Because it's all a progression of life. Even in the when you're talking about the religious aspect of it and reading the Bible and all the things about mom being in the church, getting the last name, all those things, you know, and some years from now, all those things can mean something different. Yeah, you know, and uh and again, I appreciate being witness to this point in your life, in all our lives, yeah, for this meeting today to take place. I'm grateful and thankful for this experience. So thank you both very, very much. And you too, Karen.

Candace Patrice: 32:44

Gratitude is a different kind of medicine, yeah. Um, it is the spiritual medicine, it's the medicine of depression and anxiety.

Speaker 4: 32:55

Yeah.

Candace Patrice: 32:55

Uh but sometimes it's hard to take that medicine when you're in the midst of the pain because it don't hit the same as a um traditional, was it modern medicine? You know, you take the peel and you feel the instant um satisfaction. Gratitude is something you have to feel deeply. And uh we when you start it, you go through the journey of gratitude and you say the words. Sometimes you don't feel the you don't feel it in your spirit, but as you continue to progress and find things to really feel the gratitude of, you can it really changes the spirit um because it allows you to be present in the right now. Uh and I would say, even throughout, I I was married, I got divorced, um, but I also managed to go through the the big cycle, the good, the bad, the ugly, the bring it back around. And I don't know if it cycles back around or not because I'm living this journey. I hope not to get back to that bad part, um, because that wasn't fun. But it was so much learning in it. Um, and I'm still learning and I'm still picking up pieces of it. So I also think that my divorce had to happen. Well, let me say this. I think when we get through things and we're able to see the good of the situation, we're okay with the outcome. So even if I right now I feel like it had to happen because of the steps that happened and what I learned. If it didn't happen, I probably would feel like I'm glad I did not because I would have learned something different, you know? Um, but in my journey, I'm glad that I was a witness to my own journey and I was on the ride, and I'm still on the ride. And I'm gonna be grateful for whatever comes. And I think that as you go on your journey, we all go on our journeys, whatever is to come, we're to be grateful for that ride, rather, high, low, all of the things. Uh so thank you for sharing that, mom. Thank you guys for sharing that. You guys have a conference coming up called Wealth is Wisdom. And you also talked about your journey of being flat broke. How do we go from being flat broke, cars repossessed, ain't got no job, don't know how what to do? We on mission trips where we can only get enough to pay for the mission. I mean, we going flat negative broke. How do we go there to the wealth is wisdom conference? Tell us a little bit about that.

Ijanae: 35:36

One word, purpose.

unknown: 35:38

Yeah.

Ijanae: 35:40

So yeah. All right. So let me backtrack really quick and then move forward and let my husband speak as well. Um, so even on that phone call, I don't know if it was the same phone call, babe, or maybe it was a different phone call. Remember, we were essentially the Holy Spirit was downloading what Dream Out Loud was going to be.

Marquall Joseph: 36:00

Yes.

Ijanae: 36:00

Um, is that the same phone call or different phone call?

Marquall Joseph: 36:04

It was a different phone call.

Ijanae: 36:05

Okay, different phone call, same room. Um, and he just I remember, thank you, Holy Spirit.

Marquall Joseph: 36:11

Yes, I was honestly um one of my aunties, yeah, she um committed suicide. Yes, she committed suicide. She took her own life in front of her kids, yes, from her children. Like that woman grabbed the gun, and she just straight up just shot herself right in the face, just shot herself. And um they was living in a house where look, it wasn't paid off, it wasn't paid for, it was no lights, no galleries. No, no lights, but they was she was really working trying to pay and get all this stuff, and also with their father, you know, they wasn't together at the time, but that was my mom's cousin, and he knew how to hotwire the wires up in the you know, those um to get lights in the city. The light poles, yeah. Yeah, the light poles to get lights in there, he was making it work, yeah, trying to make it work. And she died before him, you know what I'm saying? And once I saw this on Facebook, it it moved me so hard because I was like, I'm on the phone with my wife, and I'm like, We were just dating at the time. Yeah, we were just dating. I was like, man, like, yo, I'm tired of seeing my family commit suicide or somebody dying every two, every one year or two years after that. And I was also messed up about it, and my mind was messed up about it because yo, they don't know their purpose. They were struggling financially as well, and they were struggling financially, and I was like, man, I wonder how her daughters is gonna be. Yeah. After they just saw that, yeah, after they just witnessed that. Because she has an older daughter that's my cousin too. And I'm like, man, I want them to know they purpose. So they can't. Oh, this happened like uh last year. Okay, yes, last year, I believe.

Ijanae: 38:35

End of end of 2023.

Marquall Joseph: 38:37

Yeah, end of, yeah, I think end of 2023, yeah. And I was just saying, like, man, God, I want them to know their purpose. I I want to have because I was thinking of Dream Out Loud, and I was like, bruh, I want Dream Allow to be this financial just output of where if somebody have a dream or something or they know their purpose, but they don't know how to get the the funds or anything, the resources, man. I I just want to give it to them. I want Dream Allow to be that gateway, that that activation to where no, you don't need to give up on yourself and give up on your life, but this is a different way of how you need to go about it and do it because everything is changing. But I want my system to help you out so you can get further.

Ijanae: 39:38

Yeah. So and to get some context, Wolf is wisdom's under our LLC Dream Out Loud. So, um, yeah, Dream Out Loud, the Holy Spirit to start downloading what this was gonna be funding, like essentially similar similar to Shark Tank, but for um more like crowdfunding and for people who are like, hey, I I got this idea and I kind of need help, and we kind of wanted to shape and form that idea into an actual business, and we actually partnered with multiple companies that had the resources to give them the funding, and so um we would only have gotten paid if that person approved and accepted the loan. Um, but it required good credit um and a good mindset. And so uh we came into and I used to do I used to be a funding consultant before him, and so I came into situations where um the people that I would work the company I was working for at the time or working with at the time just were super strict, um, and a lot of people just didn't get didn't get approved even with a 700 credit score, and that just really discouraged me, or someone who did get approved to start their real estate dream just was like got too scared and ran away and blocked me and things like that. And so I got I just got really discouraged. And so um so Dream Out Loud started off as the idea of like less fun people's dreams and purpose so they can stop struggling, essentially. Um, and so wealth is wisdom is similar to that, right? Um, I don't know what we call it, a branch of Dream Out Loud, not entirely sure, but it's under the LC Dream Out Loud, and so Welfish Wisdom and the point of the conference is actually just tell the story how it started. We was in bed one day, yeah, about to go to bed, and I probably was complaining about being broke or whatever the case may be. And um I was just if you want me to um you can look I'm sorry, I'm mixing some of these, we mixing some of these stories together. Let me back stretch a little bit more and then go back to the wisdom. So you asked, how did we go from broke? And so I was working eventually after we got married, um, even the day of our wedding, we were still struggling financially, right? Um, but after we got married, I or at least before even a little bit before I got married, I actually got hired onto this real estate. I do real estate full-time, right? Um, agent and a wholesaler. Um, well, not part-time because of what for switching, but um, and so I actually got hired into this company where I got paid salary plus commission. So each day I close, I got a commission plus salary. He also got a good job. We're with our hourly plus commission. And so we started like literally through after our marriage, thriving, right? Like we had savings account, we were paying rent two weeks early. Rent two weeks early, right? Like we was just responsible, we were buying courses, investing ourselves, things like that. Um, but then near the end of so we we we almost made six figures together, right? But we were we got so excited, we were kind of done with the money. We weren't done, but we're done with it with the money at the same time. And so near the end of 2024, the car we had broke down, and so I had to spend all my savings, all our savings to getting him a new car, right? And lost everything in his job, started giving him hours, things like that, and then God told me to leave the company the end of 2024 and become a full-time content creator. And so now you talk about struggle, how we go from debt broke, negatives, no credit to we're fixing our credit, getting out of debt, doing this, we're thriving, to like, oh well, I'm not giving you no more hours, and you gotta leave your job.

Candace Patrice: 43:02

I'm like, Yeah, and so this is happening, okay.

Ijanae: 43:10

So let's fast forward, right, to um 2025. I'm running away from my assignment. Never thought I would be in that position. Never thought a traveling evangelist, a missionary of many years will, and I'm I'm on fire. I've seen so many people save and this and that and miracles, and now I'm like, I'm not following God, I'm running away from my assignment, right? Because I'm scared of the outcome until literally recently we get back to that assignment, and like I should have never ran away from the start. And so we were in bed, and I think something with the bills, now I'm stressing out about the bills, and probably complaining, and then my husband comes in and yeah, um, so mainly she was complaining about something about the bills and about just just making money.

Marquall Joseph: 43:58

So, me, I'm gonna just hear you out. I'm a listener, I'm gonna just listen. And I just didn't have no words to even say or speak because I'm like, shoot, I don't even know. I'm working, I'm just working at this point. I'm just working. And when she was saying that, the Holy Spirit just came through. It was like like live as a live in a flowing water, you know what I'm saying? And he just spoke through my through my lips saying, wealth is only just wisdom, wealth is just wisdom.

Ijanae: 44:49

And immediately when he said that, I was like, mmm, that's a book. And I said, mm-hmm, that's a podcast. I'm like, that's a con that's a mindset. That too. Yo, that's deep. That's a conference, and then how Holy Spirit works through me and flows through me, is he gives me amazing ideas. The Bible says in Deuteronomy 8.18, I have given you given you the ability to get wealth. That ability is ideas. We we think he just is gonna drop money in our in our lap. It's like I've given you these ideas, I've given you all these things, but you have to execute on it, right? And so it literally, I was like, it can be this, this, this, this, this, this, this. Next you know, he's inviting so many people to be speakers. I was like, what a women at? I I called up Sasha, you know, Sasha. Yeah, I know Sasha. Yeah, um, I called up a few other people, I said, let's do it, right? And initially, the wealth was wisdom was supposed to be a conference where it's like come and get the well wisdom you need in each different industry. I I had people from real estate to consulting to branding to this and that, but then over time it turned into nah, let's get you. We call it, we coin a term called activational breakthrough, which means let's get you, let's get you activated into your purpose, and let's give you some breakthrough if you are stuck in a position, right? And so it turned into two panels and multiple breakout sessions, and us speaking at the end, essentially changing, changing your mindset, renewing your mind, giving you new, essentially giving you the wisdom. Bible says, get get get wisdom. If and all you're getting, get wisdom. Wisdom is the principal thing. Why? Because when you get wisdom, you get the honor, you get the riches, you get the influence, you get the wealth, you get the marriage, you get the whatever, right? Wisdom is the principal thing. The Bible says he gives you favor because of wisdom. And I and in and I um it was last week in church, and this is connected to the conference. It was and I'm gonna break down what the conference includes. Last week in church, I'm I'm on my on my knees praying, and I just see it. The Lord just gives me a picture of him placing a crown on my head, and I feel special. I was like, Oh, I'm all love, right? And I'm like, okay, what is this crown, right? And the Holy Spirit just kept alternating between wealth, wisdom, wealth, wisdom, wealth, wisdom. And I was like, it gotta be a Bible verse. And so, tip, if you ever feel like God is speaking to you, if it doesn't align with the word, it's not God. And so it gotta be a Bible verse. And so I looked at the verse and it literally says in Proverbs, the crown of the wise is the wealth. The crown of the wise is the wealth. What does that mean? When you go to Queen Sheba, right? Um, what did Queen Sheba in the book of Solomon? I mean, in the book of uh first Kings, uh Queen Sheba went to Solomon to pretty much prove all the things you've been hearing about Solomon wrong. Solomon is known as the wisest man ever to ever exist, right? He literally, God said, What do you want? He said, I need to, I need to lead your people, right? Give me wisdom because you asked for wisdom, I'm gonna give you all these other things too, right? And so Queen Sheba comes, and the Bible literally says, She looked at she looked at the wisdom Solomon had, and she was out of breath, she was taken aback, and she said, Everything I heard about you is true. How do you see wisdom through someone's wealth? The crown of the wise is their wealth, and so when a person walks in wealth, right, and wealth isn't just financial, right? When you're abundant in every area in your life, right? That's your that's God showing to the world you have wisdom. Is this making sense? Right?

Candace Patrice: 48:23

Um, maybe too much sense in my life right now. Okay. Can you can't read this, can you? No. It says abundance coming in from all angles. It's a 21-day study that I'm doing where I have to repeat that seven times, three times a day. I don't know what day I'm in. But you just said that just gave me a new level of meaning and understanding. Also, one of the things that um I want to say that I've come to understand is that people show their love in money a lot of times. So when you do something well, they're like, hey, here's a hundred dollars because that was good. Your services, I believe, are worth this amount. Here is money, which is the wealth. But because of what you're giving and the wisdom and which you pour upon people, you get paid back in this wealth of wisdom. Like the it looked you're I can't talk because it's so much internal. But that was a lot, and I'm gonna be quiet because I can't get it out. It's it's a spiritual thing, I think. And I'm trying to explain the spiritual thing I'm having, and I can't. So we're gonna continue moving forward, but the wealth being the wisdom in the crown, keep going. I'm sorry, that was a lot. You just did a whole lot. I might have to call you after, but go ahead.

Marquall Joseph: 50:05

But yes, yes. So to to say with the Solomon, once he he sought out the Lord, he sought the Lord's wisdom. When you seek out, this is why he says in his word, don't worry about nothing, but seek ye first the kingdom of God. Seek ye first me, my knowledge, my wisdom, seek my face, understand my ways, so I can give you the guidance that you need, so I can give you the strategy that you need. Solomon, he asked for strategy, he asks for wisdom so he can carry the Lord's people. God was like, man, I'm I'm not just gonna give you what you ask, but I'm gonna give you riches and honor, which you didn't ask. So all that is gonna follow because you're seeking out his wise counsel. You're seeking out, he wanted to understand wisdom. He blessed them because he said, God, I want to have an understanding heart for your people, so I can lead them well. What's the heart of wisdom? Having an understanding heart to love his people, right? To to move in a righteous way, move with understanding knowledge. It says in his word right here, I just wanted to bring it up in Proverbs 11. With his mouth, the ungodly destroys his neighbor, but through knowledge the righteous are rescued. It's through knowledge, it's through wisdom that you're that that's a word, through your skill, through your knowledge.

Ijanae: 52:13

My god, Jesus, keep going because I'm about to prophesy in a minute. Go ahead.

Marquall Joseph: 52:18

That's when it happened, flow through Holy Spirit through the knowledge that I'ma give you because all of us have the mind of Christ. All of us have the mind of Christ, so he's given us. She over here, but she he is giving us that wisdom that he has. All we need to do is activate this mind of Christ that he's freely give us his Holy Spirit with ideas, skill, uh uh a whole, you have inventions in your mind. You have a whole invention in your mind, well, filled with idea, godly ideas and godly things, how to serve these people and how to serve them well. You over here looking at how the way you're gonna make the next dollar with this job, but knowing that God is saying, I gave you a mind of invention. Come on, to make you creativity, to make you some money with what you need and how to serve my people.

Ijanae: 53:20

Come on. How how much longer we got? Because we're about to go in.

Candace Patrice: 53:23

Oh no, no, wait, we we can't go in too hard because we are really at the end.

Ijanae: 53:28

I know, I see. We got seven more minutes. Oh my god, give me four minutes.

Candace Patrice: 53:34

Okay, wait, let's see what Janny got to say. My mother give me one, give you one. Okay, let's go, let's go, let's go.

Janet Hale: 53:45

Lead your family.

Candace Patrice: 53:50

I see you.

Janet Hale: 53:51

Oh, but I see you. You're the one when she was laying in bed complaining about oh my goodness, and I'm not even religious. But anyway, she's complaining about money. What you tell her? Wisdom is money, or money is I don't know what you say. And every time you speak, that woman over there, whoo, ho, ho, hoo, ooh, I'm like, girl, oh no. So I'm just seeing her some beautiful manifestation. I'm done.

Candace Patrice: 54:18

It's so good. Two minutes.

Marquall Joseph: 54:20

Yeah, okay.

Candace Patrice: 54:21

Go ahead, go ahead. Two minutes. Go ahead, your time.

Marquall Joseph: 54:23

Yeah, yeah.

Candace Patrice: 54:23

You done?

Marquall Joseph: 54:24

Um, but as I was saying, I'm gonna say this last thing. Your knowledge and the knowledge of the Lord, he placed everything in your mind, in your heart to serve his people. I mean, you have to seek out how the way Solomon did. Have an under, I want an understanding of his heart. You have to kings, you have to do what Daniel did when he went to the with when he went to his house, and he talked to his boys like, hey, the king had a bad dream. We need to figure out what's the thing or what the Lord is trying to tell him. He sought out the Lord's face, and they stayed up all night just to just to see God, what is this dream about? So not only that he sought out the Lord's face, he he sought out how to serve the king, and he also was seeking out the mind of Christ, he was seeking out the wisdom of God, and he and Daniel said, Who gives secrets? So that's it.

Ijanae: 55:34

Okay, so all right, let me just go on real quick and then segue to more into Welfare's wisdom. Okay, when he read that scripture, right? Let me just say this first. The Bible says it's the glory of God to conceal a matter, but it's the glory of kings to search out the matter. In Hebrew, that word matter means the bar, it means word. So it's the glory of God to hide the mysteries of his word, but it's the glory of kings. Who is the kings? He's the king of kings. We're the little kings to search out the meaning of his words, in other words, to have revelation. And so when you actually study the word of God, he's going to reveal the truth to you so you can walk in as a king. Who's the ultimate king? Who's the king we should be reflecting? Jesus Christ. And so if God is prosperous, if Jesus is prosperous, if he's this, he's that. The Bible says he's shaping an immonus among to the image of his son. We should be a mirror of him on this earth because humans are not made for heaven. I find this nation is not heaven, it's religious, teaches you that. The Bible says to find that the nation's earth. That's that's why it says new heaven and new earth. Study the study the Bible. So the but he literally read that word when it says the knowledge, the knowledge of uh the knowledge is gonna what is gonna the knowledge is gonna rescue the righteous, right? So look, the Bible says, My people are destroyed for a lack of what knowledge. And so because we don't have knowledge on how to actually build wealth, because we don't have not okay. Here's this question we're gonna ask people. Why is it that the church teaches us to tithe when it teaches the church don't teach us how to build wealth? I'm sorry, I can't tithe, I'm broke. You you you you you don't teach me how to build wealth, you don't teach me how to be a king when he's a king, right? You teach me how to be religious, right? And so literally, when we have this disappointment of this conference, is to give them the knowledge, give them the wisdom that they need, and give them that activational breakthrough to actually do what God has called you to do. If God says start that ministry, create that ebook, create that book, create that whatever, do the service, you need to do it because that is going to get you out of Egypt. You not you can't, you can't, you're not supposed to be in the world's economy. Did you know? I was on a ministry call the other day, and every woman literally said, God, every woman literally said, I got laid off from my job. One girl said, God told me to quit, but I ain't obeyed, so I got fired. God is taking his people out of the world's economy into his kingdom economy. Because when you're in a world's economy, you're relying on Pharaoh, you're relying on the world who's not our God. The government cannot save you, boo-boo. Stop complaining about the food stamps and create your own economy. My God. When we conference, come to the conference, December 6th, 5:30 to 9 30. Doors open at five. You got 17 more free tickets. Come through because you're, I'm telling you, you're not going to leave out the same. You're not going to leave out the same. And last but not least, if you can't come to the conference, we have a product. We have an AI. We partner with Chat GPT. We have an AI that will literally create a digital product for you and will do help you find your ideal client. We'll do the messaging for you, we'll do the copywriting for you, we'll literally create the product for you and give you a launch plan so you can build wealth ASAP. You have no excuse. People, I know people that are charging 10 grand for this. We're only charging $37. And that's not a month, that's a one-time fee. Click the link in my bio. Click the link in my bio because that is going to change. Which bio?

Candace Patrice: 58:44

Where the bio at? How we find the bio?

Ijanae: 58:46

Naology, N-A-E-E-O-L-O-G-Y, Naology, Instagram and TikTok. Naology, right? I have uh 37,000 followers on TikTok, so you know that's me. And I have about 1700 followers on Instagram, so you know that's me. Click the link in the bio, $37 one-time fee to change your wealth. Get out of generational trauma, get out of generational uh poverty and step into the prosperity God has for you with that product. And if you buy, if you're in this podcast, you buy, I will give you personalized coaching because I study social media, right? I study this, I literally help influencers grow and make money, things like that. If that's you, I will give you personalized coaching for the next two months because you're on this podcast for free. After buying the $307 product. So that's it. Wealth is wisdom. Yes. December 6th.

Candace Patrice: 59:34

You're just gonna go in like that at the end? You just gonna go in like that at the end.

Marquall Joseph: 59:41

Well, see, when God gets into the next thing, I'm like, yeah, just you know.

Candace Patrice: 59:46

Listen, this is how I know we're in alignment though, because the things that you are saying are the things that have been in my brain and need to come out. Yeah, I'm gonna call you. Uh uh. This is gonna be good. I can't wait to be in the building on Saturday. I'm Looking forward to it. Uh yo, how do people get tickets? Like, first of all, you said you got a couple, a couple free tickets still left. How do people get those? How do people go and donate? Like, how do people become a part of the mission of the ministry?

Ijanae: 1:00:14

So link in the bio.

Marquall Joseph: 1:00:15

Yes, link in the bio. Also, you can follow me.

Candace Patrice: 1:00:18

Is this from uh is the link gonna take them to Eventbrite? Yes.

Marquall Joseph: 1:00:22

Yes.

Candace Patrice: 1:00:22

From Eventbrite, if they're only in Eventbrite, what do they type in to have it if they don't go to the links?

Ijanae: 1:00:28

Um, type in Wealth is Wisdom 2025 conference.

Candace Patrice: 1:00:31

Perfect.

Ijanae: 1:00:32

Yeah. So, and then yeah, we only have 17 free tickets left. Uh, hit me up. So, yeah, we it's not it's not about making money, it's sincerely is about changing your mindset so you can do what God has called you to be. And then all next year, like this this conference is our launch plan. All next year we're building community. So we're gonna be having online events, in-person events, right? Um, next next month we're having uh uh uh not next uh today's November, so technically January, we're having you know a webinar that we're launching to walk you through how to actually create your product, launch your product, all that, right? Um February, we're having a couple's event. You single and you need your booth thing to what the equal yoke, the core values, come to that event. Like we're having a thing. Because why? Because wealth is in every area of your life. We want you to be abundant in your in your finance, in your physical life, your sex life, whatever when you're married. In every area of life, we want you to be abundant in everything.

Candace Patrice: 1:01:23

So abundance coming in from all angles.

Marquall Joseph: 1:01:27

Yes, wealth is not just just wisdom, just um money, money, but it's wisdom, it's love, it's every area in your life. I mean, physics, just right, physical, I mean, fitness. Uh listen, mindset, that's literally everywhere.

Ijanae: 1:01:47

Just plug in, bro.

Candace Patrice: 1:01:48

Well, period. So I thank you guys for being on here. Mom, did you have any last things you want to give before I give our outro out?

Janet Hale: 1:01:56

No, thank you. I appreciate sharing this space with you guys. Thank you.

Marquall Joseph: 1:01:59

Yes, thank you. Thank you for having us, man. This was this was a blessing. And hope this is good all off the cuff.

Candace Patrice: 1:02:06

So no, that's the best. Um, I appreciate what you guys gave. Um, I appreciate just the the learning that I was able to do the wisdom on which you guys gave anybody listening to this, whether it's now, whether you caught it before their conference or after, you can still plug in. Um, I'm really grateful. Of course, if there's anyone that you know who's struggling, um, we talked about suicide on here. You can call the national national prevention, National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988 or text it at 988 24 hours, seven days a week. Um, we are all just trying to increase our our mental. Our mental is very important. Spreading love is important. I think that spreading love is God's work, um, no matter what your faith or religion or belief is. I think that getting away from religion, I I say that lightly. Um I think having a relationship with God is most important before religion. Let me say that. Um, so wherever you land in that, don't beat me up for saying that. I just I really think it's important to be in tune with the God within yourself and know the word for yourself and not listen to others to tell you what it is because the words come to life and have different meaning for what you're going through. It's going to speak to you specifically. So um you don't follow. This is something I learned too. We look at people and their way of doing things and their lows and how they were broke and what they did to come out of it. These are stories to build your faith. They are not stories for you to replicate. You're going to have your own story, your own journey. Follow your own gut. It ain't gotta look like what's already been done. Your journey, your listen to your inner wisdom. You've been getting knowledge throughout your your life. The things that have crossed your path have crossed your path on purpose. The people who are in your way are there on purpose. This podcast hitting your ears is on purpose. Uh, the jokes of being a guest on this podcast in this moment at this time to release on this day is on purpose. So just remember everything is in alignment. Look for what it is that God is telling you for your life and follow that. Um, and whether you say God, you say Buddha, you say Allah, you say spirit, you say universe, follow that gut with that is within yourself. I say God, I believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That's my journey. That's what I believe, and I'm gonna believe it until I believe I die. That's what I believe, I'm gonna believe. So I'm a follower of God, and and that's my journey. And I thank you for listening. You can follow us at Candace Patrice Motivates on Instagram, essential motivation on Facebook. I know, I don't know why I'm different on all these different places. I ain't got it together. So, and that's okay. I everybody looks different, and we all doing our best. So continue to do your best and live your best life. Um, is there anything else you guys wanted to shoot out before we left? All looks good.

Marquall Joseph: 1:05:25

They already got they already got that link, do they?

Candace Patrice: 1:05:28

Yep, everything will be in the show notes, so all is well. Wealth is wisdom. It's a conference that is on December 6th.

unknown: 1:05:37

Yep, 5.

Ijanae: 1:05:38

What time? Doors open at 5 p.m. in Detroit. All the information you need to know, like what the panels are about, who the speakers are, the breakouts, everything is in the event right.

unknown: 1:05:47

Yep.

Ijanae: 1:05:48

Not that breakouts are just part. You need to come to find out what the breakout is about, but all is well.

Candace Patrice: 1:05:53

So, guys, just remember love hard, forgive often, and laugh frequent. We out, y'all. Amen.

Speaker 4: 1:06:00

Amen.

unknown: 1:06:01

Amen.