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Building a Business Around Faith and Friendship featuring Jac Kalaher

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Jac Kalaher has over 20 years of experience in marketing and is a certified Transformation Life Coach. She helps people find their true purpose and build meaningful brands using clear, purpose-driven strategies. Her work combines smart marketing with a big heart.

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Jac shares how she goes from feeling lonely after a military move to starting a fast-growing local group and launching her own social media agency. She tells the story of how St. Johns BFF (Business, Faith, and Friendship) started because people in her community needed real connection—and how following faith, not just hustle, helped her take the next right steps. 

We also talk about the hardest year she’s faced financially and how she stayed focused on her mission, even when it didn’t make sense on paper. Jac’s journey is full of brave steps, strong faith, and a deep love for helping others.

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Speaker 1:

We have got a powerhouse of a guest that you're going to want to see. So click down in the show notes below if you're listening audio-wise, wherever you're listening from, and go over to YouTube so you can see Jack Callagher. I met her at the Creative Educators Conference. I got it right. Fifth time's a charm. Fifth time's a charm. Last no. Two weeks ago, and as we were on the bus riding home, I invited you, jackie, on the podcast, before really knowing what we could talk about, but just understanding that the listener would benefit from you being here and our conversation. And so I told Jamie about you. And here we are, and we've already hidden it off even more than we did while we were at the conference together. It's 20 minutes in and we're finally recording for the listener. You can get it on this goodness right.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I love it. Thank you so much for having me. It's so nice to finally meet Jamie. I've heard so much about you and I just can't wait. I don't know where we're going to go, but I know, wherever we go, the listeners are going to get something out of it and we can bless all the people, do all the things.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, absolutely. So, dear listener, here's a little bit about Jack so you get some context. She is a mother of four boys, devoted wife and a daughter to the most high king, jesus. I will say Jesus. With over two decades of transformative experience in the marketing industry and a certification as a transformation life coach, she has dedicated her career to helping others discover and achieve their true purpose through intentional, purpose-driven marketing strategies. She's passionate, super passionate, but passionate about growth mindset and is known for her authentic, faith-led approach.

Speaker 1:

She's been in the selling space for the past 11 years. She's mastering the art of authentic connection through the digital age.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, I love the Lord and called to help people bring their mission and their vision to life. We're all created for a purpose and so a lot of people, when they get lost, they don't necessarily know what that purpose is. But God literally created us in our timeline, right now. Right now and this like in 2025 to do what he's called us to do Not to work to get into heaven, but to do to make an impact here on earth. There we go. Yeah, I hope you do it on online too Digital, fancy way to say it.

Speaker 1:

Well, jack, my first question is it's a mouthful of a question, but you have a social media marketing agency. You founded a community that focuses on business, faith and friendship, which I saw, bff.

Speaker 2:

But it's not.

Speaker 1:

Best Friends Forever. It's business and friendship. You're a public speaker, you're co-hosting another conference and you raise four kids. How do you pour so much out of your soul?

Speaker 3:

you know, I also run the local lacrosse league with my husband. I was like, I don't know if you all know that I will say right now, in this very busy season, and my husband, my husband actually is in chef school and he's doing his externship right now. So he's working on top of his full-time job, 30 hours on the weekend until May 21st. So you caught me in the craziest season of our lives, like the chaos, chaos. So that's a really good question and I will first and foremost say creating my bookend routines, my morning and my evening, and getting into the Bible, first thing. If I don't do that, it slips, it crashes, and so I wake up. Let me give you a little rundown of my day. I wake up at like five and snooze till five, 30. I try not to. Sometimes it's four, four, 15. The goal is four o'clock, okay, the goal is four o'clock so. But then I get up and the first thing I do is I grab my coffee, I grab my, my supplements, I sit down with my electrolytes and I turn on my fireplace and I sit in front of that every day, whether here in Florida, even if it's a million degrees out, because the gas fireplace it's actually puts off no heat, it's just for looks. Yeah, well, and I and I honestly I dig into the word and everyone's like well, where do I start in the word? If you're brand new, you can start in the New Testament. So the gospels Matthew, mark, luke and John you can just literally open up to the back end. Those four are really good, but I use a cheat sheet. I have right now a Christian study Bible that's great and has a guide that walks you through the Bible in a year, because it's overwhelming.

Speaker 3:

And when you can't play eight ball with the Bible, I used to do that growing up because I wasn't always really a Christian with a relationship with the Lord and I would go to hotels and I would eight ball it. Right, you know, because hotels sometimes have, or they used to, the Bibles in the draw. You know, yeah, well, I actually stole one when I was little and I felt terrible. I didn't know you were allowed to take up, I didn't know that was a thing, but I really wanted to buy people and they couldn't figure out what I am. So I was like I need this, but I was doing the Bible. You probably need it. Yeah, they were put there to be taken. And then I was like I'm pretty bad, since forgiven Would eight ball it because I had no guide, so I would eight ball it by by, just if you're listening and not watching, yeah, literally are just opening up to page and reading it and like, yes, please hit me exactly where I need to be hit today.

Speaker 3:

Not recommended Not, but when you don't know anything, it's better than nothing, right, and you're like, okay, at least I read something. It's not necessarily the best way to go about it, but if you do have a guide or you do this, start in the gospels Matthew, mark, luke and John. There are Bibles that will give you the Bible in a year. And then this, my third little poke here, is navigators. Have you guys heard of the navigators?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think vaguely, I remember.

Speaker 3:

And so you can just Google navigators. Five by five, by five, PDF. You're literally reading the Bible five days a week. Five minutes and I don't know maybe five verses. I don't know what the last one is. I'm not going to lie, but it's five by five, by five, and I last year read I think it was just the, it was the New Testament. I read just in the New Testament last year. That's what it was and it was awesome and it has for those that like a checklist, there's a tiny box and you check it off and you move on and you have weekends off because chaos and busy. But that is how I start Every morning is my Bible study and then I usually do a personal development and then I get my kids up and we go through the chaos of everything and then I do a workout. I try to do five days a week because that helps with my mental.

Speaker 3:

Um, I'm a nicer person when I do my exercises, my therapy my husband will check in and you know I love him so much. He's like hey, have you like worked out? You didn't. Why would you say that? I just maybe you take some time for you and I'm like, you're right, I'm gonna write and my peloton is hiding. I moved it over there so y'all can't see it, but I literally have it right there 30 minutes for mental sanity. Go through the day, the business meetings, the kids stuff, the homework, the lacrosse, all of it. And then in the evening you know my, my routine is as simple as I do on my face routine, like I do all my face washes and stuff. It slows me down, down. It's like 92 steps because we're getting older.

Speaker 1:

There's probably out there, this is the one I currently use.

Speaker 3:

But it calms me, I lay down and I highly recommend reading a book. But I also like, like hallmark movies because they're mind-numbing. I don't have to think and I always know the answer, and then I go to sleep. Uh, there's no question what's gonna happen. I don't have to wait to see that. I know they're going to wait to the very 10 minute, last 10 minutes to kiss, and they're heavily ever after. So I'm right.

Speaker 1:

So with that, yeah, managing those bookend routines, but first the lord start off with the lord great my, my cheeks correct, like with smiling and laughing, like and just enjoying what, the, what, the what the listener in please like on a snapshot of your business as it stands now. Like, what are your sources of revenue? Like, what businesses are you into? Like, and too, I know you just shared that you, since we were at the conference together and you were up on stage doing a pitch, like you also have just figured out like the best way to share, so please share.

Speaker 3:

So let me scoot back. I need to rearrange myself. I get excited, yes, so I actually I picked up this word from the conference was I do a gamut of things. I think as entrepreneurs, we do. We have our hands in lots of different pots because we're creative or we're a system, whether a creative brain or a systems brain. Either way, you take on things because you're excited by them and you want to launch them. So keep doing that, right. However, you don't have to feel uncomfortable when someone asks you what you do, and if you do 10 things to be like well, I do a lot, and so I do this and this and this and this and this, and it comes off and with a lack of confidence, and then, therefore, you're shutting off I hate to say it, but a sale right, because they're like nevermind, this person doesn't know what they're doing. Well, a lot of the times, I do a gamut of things as well, and I think if you start with where your heart is called to, whether you're making money in it or not, start with that and share how everything else trickled out from that. So for me, I'll give you this. It's called the perfect pitch. This probably won't air by next week, good Cause I'm not allowed to share it until the conference. So you guys get, that's all I hear after right After April 25th. Yes, perfect, okay. So the perfect pitch is essentially what you do. So here's mine. So the perfect pitch is essentially what you do, so here's mine.

Speaker 3:

I am Jack Callaher. I own a networking company that really has turned into a local movement here in St John's County, florida. It is called St John's BFF. Bff is business, faith and friendship. So whether you have a business or you buy from businesses which is everyone, because if not we'd be naked and you're a liar so you buy from businesses, we get in the room, right. So business, there's our first. Our second is faith. Whether you have faith or you need faith, we are not here to judge you. It's not our job. Matthew 7,. I love it because it takes the pressure off. We're just called to love you. So, whether you have faith or need faith, get in the room. Don't judge us. We're not going to judge you. I love my Jesus. And then friendship.

Speaker 3:

My husband was in the military and so we moved all over the country. We really want the depth of friendship and not the breath. When we moved to this area. Six years ago, my husband was a civilian and so it took us a really long time to make friends in the military world. It's like, hey, we all know we're moving, you get it, you connect your best friends, you have babysitters, you have birth coaches if you need them, whatever you need. Yeah, that is the environment.

Speaker 3:

And when we got out, I was lonely. So business and friendship right Back in businesses, depth of friendship, all the things. But from that stemmed a need within the community that I saw and people kept asking me for help. Jack, you're so good at social media marketing, you're so good at marketing. Where did you get these creative ideas? How did you come up with BFF? And then this and this. So what, like, what is that? And I was like, okay, well, from there I launched what's called the mission social and that I do speaking, I do coaching and I do education, because there is a need.

Speaker 3:

People don't know necessarily how they have this vision, they have this calling, this mission, but they don't know how to communicate it effectively. And how can we do that if we don't know how to communicate? We don't know marketing, we don't know anything like that. So my job is to help you take your vision, your mission, and communicate it authentically, true to you, to your audience. And so, with St John's BFF, the mission social was born. And then here I am, full circle. So that was a long pitch, but look, you guys were entertained the whole time?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, because it's exciting when you're taught, when you figure out. My heart is BFF. Bff is not a massive money maker at this time. It is going to be global. We are franchising it. We had our giant leadership meeting today. However, right now it's just in St John's County. We know the money's coming, we're not worried about it, but that is God's calling on my life. Everything has led up, everything that I've done network marketing, all of the things have called me to build a community out of a need, out of loneliness, and when we built it, I wanted a group that people could post about their businesses, people could find Sisters in Christ and people could find the friendship. Because once I'm like I'll see you in a couple of weeks or I'll see you in five months it's like I need a friend now, like I need someone who I can lean on now, and even if it's one person one person, great, you don't need 500 right right, right.

Speaker 3:

So I don't remember what the question was, but I we got here.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the perfect pitch businesses, all of that no, you shared a snapshot of your business, which is what I had asked you did or like yeah.

Speaker 2:

so my, my question is how did you get here specifically? Like you said, it was kind of born out of loneliness and coming from you know the military family and moving around and stuff, but how did you actually like go from that to starting this?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think when my husband my husband was in the military for 13 years, he got out. We were pregnant with our fourth child, moved from Texas to Georgia. We were there just long enough to have a baby. Weeks later they were like, hey, really, we need you to move. So we did to, you know, jacksonville, florida area, northeast corner. And so when we got here, like I said, I really wanted friends. I really wanted friends. Oh my gosh, I have a funny story. So I wanted friends so bad.

Speaker 3:

I'm not a runner. I'm not a runner. I was outside in my driveway at the rental house that we had, and this girl was walking by and so she was running with her baby stroller, like, like, looking so cool. And I was like, hey, nice to meet you. We just moved in, we're talking. And she's like, yeah, like, if you're a runner, I was like, oh, I love working out, which is true, I was in network marketing, I was in Beachbody, I was in Isagenix. Like, I love wellness, I hated running.

Speaker 3:

She goes yeah, if you are, you should sign up for the Gate River Run. And I'm like, oh, my God, yay. So we exchanged numbers. I signed up for this run. That was a month out and I thought we were going to be friends and like maybe run together or at least go together. Nothing, nope, I had no friends. So I went to this. I know it's fine, but I went to this run it's what's really funny Cause I was like okay, this is how desperate I was for friends. I started running so I could have friends and I was like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

So I'm did the run and then I started running and now I'm a quasi runner, right, like I was doing anything. It took. I literally started running and I despise running to make friends. I mean, this is what we do Women Right, unity Right.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

Right, I mean so bad to the point. Fast forward four years later my baby was going to kindergarten. And well, actually, oh my God, six years, five years later, five years later, my baby was going to kindergarten and I was like, okay, I'm going to now start networking in person, because that's what you do. My husband's like hey, are you now going to go back to work? And I'm like that question. And I'm like I do. I'm like I do work, 100% work. I take care of the house, the children. I have a network marketing gig that I earn full-time money on, like what do you mean? And so you're nine to five now, so you're gonna go out sick when the kids are sick. And he's like well, no, trying to encourage me. And I like you should have seen my face. It was like what do you mean? He was just trying to encourage me.

Speaker 1:

He was like have you worked out in?

Speaker 3:

a while yes, why don't you think about it while you do a workout? We were in the car, so he was like couldn't escape me too, I remember exactly where. And he's like no, I just wanted to encourage you, like, if you wanted to, you could. I'm like, I know I can do whatever I want. And we left and I was like no, honestly, brian. I said I really want to get back into networking. I want to build this network marketing company that I was in. I had my own little business there. I thought I want to truly treat it like a real business, not a business in the cracks that I had done for so long while mommying. I want to meet with my team, teach them how to grow, teach them sales and marketing and coach them and all these things that I've learned over being in that for 11 years, leading like doing talent. I mean, I did a leadership call every Tuesday night. It was for massive amounts of people, spoke on stage, did all the things and it's like okay, but how do I do this here? So that was the goal.

Speaker 3:

I went back and I went to my first networking event and I dragged him with me because still, we're five years later and I really didn't have. I mean, I had some friends, don't get me wrong, and they were fantastic, but I was like, I don't know, no one can go on a Tuesday night, people have sports and this, and who wants to network on a Tuesday night, right? So I dragged them with me and I remember walking in the door and I felt so out of place. I felt so disconnected, unseen, unheard, and I was like is this still the way it is? Because in college you know, you know where you go to networking events, and we started a thing and it was just like this has been. Oh my God, I've had four kids and it hasn't changed. They were all in their little pots and nothing against them. Fine, people.

Speaker 3:

No one greeted you, no one said hello, no one even acknowledged that you were there. I was like there was food out and so I like tap, tap, tap to the people. I'm like, hi, excuse me, are there name tags? Are you the greeters? What should I be doing? And they go oh, you just go around and talk to people. I'm like, what people? Everyone's in a deep conversation. So you kind of just like stood around waiting for an in, but if you went into subgroups. They gave you a look like why are you interrupting our conversation? And you're like I don't know if that's what we do, so awkward.

Speaker 3:

And then so we we, you know, we went to that event. My husband actually. That was God's little gift to us. From that one event we went to, he met a caterer and that's how he came to chef school and all of these things. So that was used. It was not a waste. God was not a waste of things.

Speaker 3:

However, I got out of that and I said this doesn't work. This is a system that is so broken and I don't. I want to do something different. I, I'm a lady of lunch. I want to go to lunch, but I'm a lady of lunch and so I am. I love going to lunch. I don't want to do an evening thing. My kids have sports, and because I have so many and they are all in sports, we just don't breathe. And but I, I have an opportunity to go to lunch, right.

Speaker 3:

And so I called up a friend. I said, hey, I really want to meet some new friends. I want to go to lunch. She's like, yes, let's do this. And I said, okay, and I have. I have our pillar idea Cause of course, my marketing brain can't just say we're going to lunch, like. My marketing brain is like, well, we should do this and we could do this, and then we'll do it every month. And so I was like, hey, it's going to be St John's Women's, because all women business, faith and friendship. I know it's a mouthful and she goes oh yeah, that is very long. I said I know, but our pillars are important. And she goes well, do you know that that could be like BFF? Yeah, and I was. Oh, I remember standing in my closet, me and my photogrammed memory. I was like, no way, we're BFFs, we are the BFFs.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this was August.

Speaker 3:

It's a pretty cool name, yeah, I like it, I like it, everyone assumes best friend forever.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

When they dig. And so that was what August 2023. And we launched a lunch and it exploded by word of mouth. We had 16 women in the room in August. By September, we rented the big room at the restaurant we had 44. The next month, we had 63. The next month, I think, we were like we want 500 people on the Facebook group by I don't know. In December, we hit it in like month two. It was word of mouth, need, need, need, need, need. And now we're a year and a half in and we have 5,400 Facebook members.

Speaker 3:

We have launched preferred vendors, which is we have small businesses. They can choose their package, but their package and it starts at $60 a month, so that anybody in business literally anybody in business can have third-party validation by linking arms with us and all the way up to hey, you're, you're well-established. $1,500 a month is our top tier and it's like we're hiring an outsourced like marketing agency, right? So we have all these different things and this has grown out of a need and we give 10% of all of that our fees, back to the local nonprofits. We have a Google mission trip coming up. We're going to Honduras to the local nonprofits. We have a global mission trip coming up. We're going to Honduras. We have like all of this stemmed out of this need for, hey, we need to do things differently. We need, again, help people to feel seen, heard and valued and we just have a lot, of, a lot of fun. So I, if you look at some of our events, we have a website, st John's BFF dot com. You can go to our Instagram and just scroll back. Oh my gosh, any event we do like we have upcoming bitty bingo in May.

Speaker 3:

So dressing up as like old people, what bingo? Bitty bingo, like bitties, like old, so I don't know. So I work on B-d-d-i-e. I made it up because I go. I go to bible study with the older women because I love them, but I don't want to be like I go to old lady bible study. It's rude. Wise women, the mature women, and yeah. So I was like, oh, these are my biddies. So we're having biddy bingo in May. So everyone dresses up Like, oh, people, like we had the greatest showman last month. People dressed up. Whatever you want to dress up, we theme everything. We have so much fun, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, Again you know I go on tangents. You guys got to cut me off more often. All right, we'll be here all day so my next question thing because we're sitting all in.

Speaker 1:

I'm just like this is. This is really interesting I know so which came first, the agency or bff so bff came first. At what point were you like this might not work and, dear jesus, help me, otherwise I'm gonna have to switch and do something else, honestly like I.

Speaker 3:

So I gave up the network marketing. When BFF came along, god was like you cannot do both, it is too much. And when I created you, this is, this is what I need you to do. And so I had to give up all of my finances, literally, or all the money that I was making. I just was like, okay, god, I'm here.

Speaker 3:

And so 2024 was literally the hardest year we've gone through financially. My husband and I, we closed all our credit cards and he was like, okay, let's go. I'm like he's so supportive. You guys like, yeah, he is, he's a gem and he's I go. I can't build both and I can't be in disobedience. My year I I need. In obedience, I need like I've had too many years and I said I'm not perfect. I'm not perfect, but too many years have gone by when I've done it Jack's way, or what Jack has thought, or wanting to provide financially for my family. Because who doesn't? Right, and my husband's the main breadwinner, like he's always had. Like, hey, he does the bills and anything extra is on on me, right, because Because I want to go, I want to travel, I want our kids in sports, as does he. But like, hey, if we want that the money doesn't just get into our bank account, you got to work right and you'll never want to make money.

Speaker 3:

So we sat back, we closed everything and it was just. It was really really hard and I kept praying and saying, god, what, like? I know I'm called to this. I know I'm called to this, but at what point can we, can I step out and earn? Do I go back to network marketing? We earn with BFF. Like I said, it's growing, the income is growing. We have new preferred vendors signing up every month. We have 114 small businesses who've linked arms with us. We, us but we have a staff to pay and they get paid because they work. Right, you have to pay fair wages. We're like, oh, okay, next month, talk to y'all. But we really had God and my girlfriends kept saying Jack, you need to do something for yourself. You created this massive network of 5,000 women, all of them asking you for something like what do you do?

Speaker 3:

And so it actually started with social media marketing because I'm excellent at that. But it has grown. I have my five clients. Maybe eventually it would be more than that. I have five clients. That's where I max out and it's really grown into business strategy sessions and bringing out transformation. Life coaching that I thought I would never use because I was like that's a lot of work and I got to hold people accountable. I was like I don't know, but it's really transformed into the business strategy session are my favorite and like the intensive days you wouldn't even believe because my brain BFF the craziness of BFF came from my brain because it was a gift from God. He gifted me this brain that sees outside of the box and makes us fun again and it like I really love this idea. What do you think Then? Let's do it. Let me help you make it make sense and then report to the world and then create so much follow that everybody wants to do it.

Speaker 3:

And so, yeah, that's where I mean literally BFF led to this, which this is now my personal bread and butter, but God also has been like, yeah, that's where I mean literally BFF led to this, which this is now my personal bread and butter, but God also has been like Jack. This is why I had to cut. I was going to have all these social media marketing accounts, applications for days and God said no, and it earns. I mean, it's a boatload of work and I've hired a team and it's free and it earns a lot of money. But he still said no, I've called you to speak on stage to the masses and unite the kingdom.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how that's going to. I don't know, speak on stage to the masses, unite the kingdom. I'm like, okay, great. So if I can get like a letter in my inbox that would say that, hey, jeff, we're going to speak on stage and unite the kingdom, speak to the masses. And he just gives me the words like cause, right now I'm just in obedience of trying to, you know, figure out. Hey, what's the need in our community? How can I serve our local business owners? How can I, but number one, be so obedient that I serve his purpose, not mine?

Speaker 1:

I mean, I hear many things and I think number one isn't that cool, how God just works. I'm thinking of this scripture in the Bible that says that your word is a light into my feet Sorry, a lamp into my feet and a light into my path, and we would love for it to be like a searchlight, spotlight. Like you could see the path way far down, so like we could know all the things and then we wouldn't have to. I don't know. Need faith.

Speaker 3:

Or even fall down and have trust. Yeah, our voice have to. I don't know need bait, because it's like I want that flesh. Show me that. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1:

But that picture of a lamp, you know a lamp like back in the day, I'm guessing oil lamp.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right.

Speaker 1:

Like it lights up enough for you to step and not step on. I don't know the little spiny plants and critters and things like this.

Speaker 3:

And honestly, as you say that, that one step, because humans, right, we have goals. Yeah, we want to run, we have goals, we want to go as fast as we can, we want to achieve it yesterday, but then there are goals. So if we had that light that shined all the way, we wouldn't be sprinting. What now? That it's like? No, that that fulfilling path and when we look back, you know, I always say the tapestry when I look at my life. It's tapestry and there's all these paths, all these things that we can do, that can take us left, right circle. We can come to a dead end, but when we, when we really lean in and we just have that foil lamp and we're on our tapestry, we're in our map and we're walking, we we're not going to be confused. God is not not a God of confusion. We're not going to go to that dead end because we ran too fast and we missed our turn, because we're going to take that time and but even we run too fast. Like I said, he will use it.

Speaker 3:

I wanted to have all these social media marketing clients. I was going to do the thing and I could have easily given up BFF clients. I was going to do the thing and I could have easily given up BFF and God was like really For money, I don't need a million dollars right now. The money is going to come, I'm not worried about it. My legacy is not in money. Do I want to help more with my children and take them all over and go on mission trips all the time? Yes, absolutely so. I need more money for mission trips, however, in his timing, not mine so good, so good.

Speaker 2:

I feel like we could keep going, but we should probably wrap this up well because I want to talk to you about social media and I want to talk to you about business strategy.

Speaker 1:

Are most the businesses that you work with brick and and mortar, or are they online?

Speaker 3:

Let me see, right now, my current clients are brick and mortar. Okay, yes, my current clients, but I have just gotten very, not really cool about your own business. You could pick your own clients, yeah, and so it's funny, because people think they want one thing but then they want another. And brick and mortar is way easier for the client to grasp because you're selling a good. So you're just selling a good, you're selling a good.

Speaker 3:

I know how to hack the algorithm, I know how to do all that stuff. I've done it, I do it and it's fun. But the ideal person, my ideal client, would be someone who's like hey, let's unlock, like, let's unlock, like, let's unlock so we can lock in, unlock my actual vision and mission. It's going to be uncomfortable. You're going to get feedback that you don't like, and right now I'm praying over that type of clientele.

Speaker 3:

To kind of round out, for my coaching, for people that I want to coach, it's like I really want people that are saying, like I know I'm called to more, I know I am, I know I like, I'm ready to take that next step, because that is where we truly can like, take it to the next step and you'll have no idea what it's going to look like at the end.

Speaker 3:

I won't, you won't, but taking those steps out because you're ready to unlock and lock in to what God has in store for us. So for the listener, who what you said is super resonating with them, where can they get in touch with you? Book up really fast, but just get it on the calendar and stock it. Sometimes things open up. Like I said, I do lots of things, but it's this is really my heart project. It's like, hey, helping people to really communicate what they're called to and to the other and build a business out of it okay cool, great well, we're gonna jump into the next episode and and for you listener, that link is in the show notes below.

Speaker 1:

Until the next time we get to chat, take care, be blessed. Thank you for joining us, jack.

Speaker 3:

Yes, thank you guys. Thank you Bye.

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