Inspector Toolbelt Talk

Q4 Home Inspection Market Outlook - 2025

Ian Robertson Season 5 Episode 32

Rates are easing, inventory is finally stacking, and yet the real curveball isn’t interest—it’s insurance. We unpack why deals in Florida and California are getting derailed by carriers, how state programs like My Safe Florida Home are quietly creating repeatable inspection work, and what the latest investor moves signal for the home inspection industry. From Porch’s acquisition appetite to Spectora’s higher follow-on valuation under Radian Capital, the money flowing into software and services points to a market that’s maturing, not stalling.

We also get practical about demand on the ground. Cash purchases still make up roughly a third of transactions, but contingencies are returning and Redfin reports more contracts falling apart during inspections—a shift away from the waive-everything era. That’s good news for thorough reporting and repair-request support. We dig into seasonality (why October hums, and why late November through January slows), how to plan your winter pipeline, and the smart ways to package ancillaries—wind mitigation, four-point, sewer scopes, mold, pool/spa—to lift average ticket size without bloating the buyer’s experience.

Looking ahead, we map a realistic trajectory: a steadier 2026, then stronger normalization into 2027–2028 as list-to-sale dynamics flip and prices step down without crashing. That’s the environment where pre-listing inspections resurface, buyers stay selective, and inspectors with crisp narratives become indispensable. We also make the case for a split brand strategy to grow commercial inspections—PCAs, roof and envelope surveys, and lender-friendly reports—so your business rides through winter and captures market share that attrition has left on the table.

If you’re ready to sharpen your edge for Q4 and beyond, this one gives you the playbook. Subscribe, share with a fellow inspector or agent, and tell us: where is your market opening up right now?

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Ian Robertson 
Hey, Beon, did you know that you're still the opening voice of Inspector Toolbelt Talk?

Beon DeNood 
This is Inspector Toolbelt Talk.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah. Like, what made you make that voice? Like, I feel like I won a new car on a game show.

Beon DeNood 
I don't know, it's funny, when you have like one phrase, and I'm the type of person that gets a little obsessed with something, so you record the first one, and then you're like, no, I sounded just goofy. And then you do all these different variations, from, like, you know, some horror movie trailer voice to the car sales, right.

Ian Robertson 
Welcome to Inspector Toolbelt Talk. Get ready to die from software.

Beon DeNood 
So I think eventually I just got so tired of doing it that I just, you know, picked the best one. But yeah, anyways...

Ian Robertson 
I think we and the fans would all like to hear every version. So maybe if over the next 30 episodes, you could have a different version at the beginning of each one.

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, we can do that, like they do outtakes for movies or something. We'll just do a bunch of outtakes.

Ian Robertson 
Well anyways, thanks for being on the show. We're slightly a little late with it, but it's our Q4 Market Outlook for 2025, our most popular segment. And 2025 has been an interesting year. Again, I'm happy to say that we were like 90, 95% right of where everything was going to go and going to land. Before we get into that. I kind of wanted to combine a little bit of a segment of inspection news. We usually do a whole other episode on inspection news when there's enough to talk about. But there's been quite a bit of inspection news going on out there, yeah?

Beon DeNood 
Yeah. It seems like there's been quite a few things happening. What are you thinking about?

Ian Robertson 
The first thing that pops in my head is Porch is buying software and stuff again. So that was interesting.

Beon DeNood 
Who got bought?

Ian Robertson 
Nobody got bought yet that I know of, but I know that they talked to other vendors, and they actually offered to buy us. And we told them no, everybody. Don't worry. We told them no, but they were really nice. I forget, nice guy, I won't say his name on the air. He's like, a CFO, CEO, CCO, CPO, I don't, whatever C and an O, and there's a letter in the middle.

Beon DeNood 
A C suite-er.

Ian Robertson 
A C suite-er? I don't know what that is.

Beon DeNood 
Like in the C suite.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah, but he was sweet. He was a nice guy. They offered to buy us, we told them no, but they told us that they're on a new buying kick. So we'll probably see some vendors get bought up this year, and smaller vendors, because they even said we understand that, you know, the vendors that we would buy would be smaller than if they bought, like, Home Inspector Pro, like they bought them and all that stuff. And in the back of my head, I think I know who they're buying. I won't put my guess here. But from what they told us, they're like, well, if you take our offer, which they never gave us a numerical offer. They just said we want to buy you. Let's work out the offer. But if you took it, it would be September, October, November and into December, and then that would be finalized. So what's that, four months? So we'll probably see late December, January, maybe even February, before we actually see an announcement of who got taken down this time.

Beon DeNood 
So further consolidation of the industry, and then there's not a lot left. So I think the smaller operators are the only ones really left.

Ian Robertson 
No and there's not really many real small operators like, man, every day it feels like there's a new guy saying, hey, big announcement, I have software coming. And everybody thinks it's easy to make the software, you know, I laugh at that, like we have Inspector Toolbelt. We've been around since conception, seven years and then, you know, whatever. But, um, it's a lot more work than people realize. And it's not just having a great app. You have to have support, like we have as many support team people as we do developers, because you need to be able to support people. So you can't be like one guy and outsource to India and expect your users to be happy, and then every user is going to use your app completely differently. You know, you build a trail going to the left, and they go to the right, down a cliff and up through an airplane. You know, that's how app development goes. So I don't see many of them kicking around for very long. There's a pretty short life cycle for most of those, unfortunately. And if you're listening and you have software, cool, not downing you, and if you make it, awesome, we'd love to see you at trade shows and stuff like that, like the Nachi convention that we're going to in Dallas, actually in a couple of days here. By the time this episode goes out, we'll probably be in Dallas. But anyways, there you go. Lots of new guys coming on the market. More software news, Spectora guys, they sold the majority of Spectora finally, a couple months, few months ago, right, Beon?

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, I think at first it was what, like a 50% share, and then they went up to, like, I don't know if they did all the remaining, or if it was just like 75%, but yeah, I know they basically, the Wagstaff brothers are, I believe they're still holding board positions.

Ian Robertson 
No, they still hold shares, I believe, and they didn't sell the majority at first so that they could say, basically, you know, we hold the majority right, and then eventually, you know, that's how these things go. And eventually they sell the rest. I still think they own part of it.

Beon DeNood 
And interesting, looking at some of the details that we're aware of is that the second evaluation for the remainder of the buyout that they did was actually higher than the first one, you know. So it's interesting to see that investment companies are still so bullish on the space, as far as investing money on, you're talking about Porch, you know, continuing to want to do acquisitions and mergers with other vendors. There we have, who is it again? The capital company, whoever it is.

Ian Robertson 
Oh, yeah, the venture capital company, Radian Capital. That's who bought Spectora.

Beon DeNood 
Right. So, like, Radian still continues to be bullish on the space and bullish even on the product that they invested in, you know, that it is worth more now than what it was when they got it. So I think those are good signals in the space, that they're seeing a good market still for home inspection, and that they anticipate, you know, growth which is which is good. It's positive signal.

Ian Robertson 
Well, that's actually going to lead into what we're going to talk about today, which is our Q4 Market Outlook. They have a positive outlook. And you know when, when a home inspector in our market, and we're at a diner and he tells us, I have a positive outlook on the market, he's got no skin in the game. When these people are dumping millions and 10s of millions of dollars into the market, they know that they're putting their money where their mouth is. So, you know, there's some stuff going on out there, but let's get into our Q4 Market Outlook, and I'm going to read my summary first. This is the summary I came up with it. So mortgage rates have eased to the low sixes, inventory is inching up year over year, and cash still accounts for roughly a third of purchases. Builders are cautious but hopeful, and in some states, insurance, not interest rates, is what's killing deals. So that's quite the cocktail we got going on there.

Beon DeNood 
Yeah. I'm most intrigued by that last one. But yeah.

Ian Robertson 
The insurance companies?

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, yeah. But the rest of the stuff is pretty cool. I mean, interest rates, psychologically, I think that was still something for some people, so they're able to move. I always do the around the neighborhood analysis, because we are living in Florida, which is, you know, like you've often said, the canary in the coal mine kind of situation. But there are a lot more for sale signs that are being a lot more persistent now. You know, folks are trying to hang on to those high numbers that you could get some months ago, and those houses are not moving. They're just sitting there. They're progressively having their numbers come down. So the market seems to be changing for sure. Somebody the other day, actually, they bought a house, and you know, just listening to two people talking, and they said, yeah, it's definitely a buyer's market now. And I was like, okay, maybe, but, you know, I guess it's all relative, but it seems like the perception is that tides have turned a little bit.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah, I think that's the way you said it is the best way to say it. It's not a buyer's market yet. That's where we make the most money, as inspectors. But the tide is turning. So this year was better than the last couple of years. So home inspectors, we'll always complain. I saw guys complaining in the best, most lucrative home inspection market that I've ever seen in my 20 plus years in this career. I saw them complaining that they're like, the market is so bad. And I'm like, okay, dude, you know, so there's always gonna be somebody saying that. But the market was better, even maybe even slightly better than we expected it to be this year. Florida guys, I do feel bad for you. California, actually, I tell you what. Why don't we talk about the insurance thing, since you brought it up.

Beon DeNood 
Okay.

Ian Robertson 
So one person said that insurance is the new interest rate when it comes to affecting the Real Estate Market. So we're in the low sixes. Let's be honest about it. Those are still killer interest rates. So if somebody got a house at 5.5% they're not going to cry about 6.2% I think it was 6.2% is what Freddie Mac was saying. Let me look in my notes, 6.3% I apologize and those were the expected Freddie Mac rates as of the recording of this podcast. Somebody at 5.5% is not going to complain about buying a new home at 6.3% and they'll refinance in five years when it finally goes down a little bit. So you would imagine buying is up, but buying is actually not up. Inventory is. So inventory is up. But anyways, I'm digressing. I don't want to go too far ahead. I have ADD brain, and it's all over the place. So here's the good and the bad of the insurance. So California, they're having a downgrading of insurance, is basically how you would put it. So basically you can't get your house insured, and that is killing more deals in a lot of areas than mortgage or inspection deal killers. Florida, too, that's happening, but only in Florida is there an upside. So it's called the Florida safe housing or something like that. But either way, they're trying to get people to do upgrades to their homes. After that, you're going to need a wind mit and a 4-point. So the upside to the killing of deals in Florida with insurance is that you're going to start to see a lot more people forced to get 4-points and wind mits. So it's kind of a catch-22 but okay, so My Safe Florida Home grants, that's what it is, roof and wind mitigation verification and re-inspection after upgrades. So you're going to see a lot more repeat work from that. Is it a gold mine? No.

Beon DeNood 
So is that like, it's a state program or something that will give you dollars to do some upgrades on your home, and to qualify, you'll need wind mits and 4-points to be able to do that?

Ian Robertson 
Yep. And then upgrade verifications afterwards.

Beon DeNood 
Okay, all right.

Ian Robertson 
So for Florida guys, that'll carry you through the hard market. There was a bigger inspection company down in Florida. He threw in the towel. He goes, it's just got too hard. And you know, he was getting a little older, and he had some other opportunities. But whenever you start to see that, you know, okay, stuff's sitting on the market a little bit longer. It's a quote, unquote buyers market. But you know, I don't know, what are your thoughts on that, Beon?

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, I don't know. Sorry, I always try to understand what's going on. So I know that there's been some big insurance insurers pulling out of Florida, for example. So when it comes to the other guys in California and other states where insurance rates are up, is it just a case of them wanting to manage their risk pool or are there other factors like causing that?

Ian Robertson 
Yeah, I think just managing their risk pool. I mean, it's kind of like whenever you see any great disaster, the person who takes the biggest hit financially is going to be the insurance company. Like my wife and I, we actually met doing relief work after Hurricane Katrina, and people were having a hard time getting money from their insurance companies. They're like, I have paid for home and flood insurance my entire life. 30 years I've owned this home, and you're telling me, nah, we're not going to pay it. And then they'll say things like, we're going to go bankrupt, or we're not going to have enough money left in the till, or we have to segment how we give out the funds, so that we don't go under. And, you know, there's some legitimacy to that, but not completely. But California has got all those wildfires. You know, they have earthquakes and all sorts of things which have caused the insurance industry to kind of take a second look at and say, is it even worth it for us to be here?

Beon DeNood 
Interesting, yeah. And then I heard also a rumor, I haven't read anything about it personally, but the government is considering FEMA not underwriting like flood insurance anymore, because, I guess, like all flood insurance, I guess is actually underwritten through FEMA, but they're considering getting rid of that, which, I mean, for some places that are flood prone, I imagine those rates are going to go sky high if they're privatized completely.

Ian Robertson 
I mean, in some places, if you have flood insurance, it's the same amount as your mortgage almost. You know, it depends on where you live, but flood insurance is already expensive. So I think we're going to, I don't think that's going to be as huge of a dent on the market, but I think that'll start adding to the inventory, somebody wanting to get out from underneath their flood insurance. I thought this was interesting too, though, that cash is making up almost a third, according to realtor.com, 32.8% so literally, just under a third are all cash.

Beon DeNood 
Wow. So that predominantly, I would imagine, are investment properties?

Ian Robertson 
Well not necessarily, a lot of the cash buyers nowadays, at least through the pandemic, were Wall Street or big corporations. They were buying single family homes because it was a safe place to keep their money, and there were some tax advantages and all this other stuff. But 32.8%. The majority of those equal no inspection. It's gone up 4% so hypothetically, if half of them don't get an inspection, that means we've lost 2% of the market this year to cash buyers, conservatively. I would say most cash buyers don't get an inspection when they're buying investment properties, unless it's multi-family or, you know, yeah, basically, that's it, unless it's like a big multi-family. I see a lot of these guys have their property management company walk the property with them and give them any thoughts and stuff like that, and they make a negotiation, and a home inspector never really is part of it.

Beon DeNood 
Interesting. It's crazy how, like looking at some of the fundamentals, we're seeing numbers looking good for our traditional like indicators, you know. Now other fundamentals that have come in, other things with insurance rates and stuff like that, that is causing it. So I don't know. How do we put it all together? Like, are we going to see an overall continued increase of transactions where we see inspections like required, but not quite as much as we had hoped for, or is it going to be kind of level, what do you think?

Ian Robertson 
Are you talking about like states requiring an inspection?

Beon DeNood 
No, no, just like, for the average home inspector in a market across the United States like, what's his average number of inspections going to look like in the in the upcoming months? Are we going to see it gradually increase? I mean, we're heading into slow time right now, but when we pick up in the spring, maybe I'm jumping ahead. But what do you think, how is this all going to impact it?

Ian Robertson 
I think 2026 is going to be a gradually better year. I think 2027, 2028 is going to be good for us. I think we're going to be like, oh man, all right. This is where, you know, my business is made. This is where things finally settle. 2026, I don't think is going to be you going to be, you know, ringing the bells, running through the street. And I still think 2027 even though it's going to be like, oh man, this is the time, it's going to take part of the year to do that. It's usually Q2 when we start to see what numbers are actually going to happen. Q1 is like, Q4 and Q1 of any given year are going to be our dead zones. We all make our money in Q2 and Q3 for the most part. But there's a lot going on that we can't predict, and I could be very wrong about those numbers. I'm usually pretty confident, but so here's another thing, it could be better than I expected based on this. So according to Redfin, as they measure house deals falling apart. They said, as competition cooled, buyers are using inspection contingencies again. Redfin notes more deals falling apart during inspections, a reversal from the wave everything era emphasizing thorough reporting and repair request support.

Beon DeNood 
Okay, so that's good.

Ian Robertson 
Personally, I watch those numbers. If somebody lets a deal fall apart because of an inspection, number one, they weren't desperate for a house, so they had other options to look at. Number two, they have the convenience of being picky. And number three, that inspector likely gets another inspection. So we don't inspect to get another inspection. We don't want another inspection that way. But listen, if you find a $30,000 roof defect and a foundation issue, and they hire you again, you just did your job. But realistically, statistically, numerically, you're going to get more inspections that way. If a quarter of your inspections that year, say you do 100 inspections, hopefully you're doing more, you know, 25 of them hire you again. Now, instead of 100 you do 125 inspections.

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, that makes sense. And maybe some of the demographic also is these people are some of the buyers coming into the market now have been waiting a long time. They've had to be patient. So they want to get it right, you know. So like you say. They have more choice, and it's good to see that uptick. So maybe even if transactions don't like have a meteoric rise, we'll still see a larger percentage of inspections being performed overall.

Ian Robertson 
And there's some markets that are starting to come down slightly, and some that are coming up within our industry, pre-listing inspections are finally poking their head out. Man, I haven't seen pre-listing inspections in a long time, but sellers are starting to go, okay, listen, there's four houses on my road that are for sale. How do I get a buyer to want to buy mine? So that is just a thing of beauty. I had been waiting. Now, are they coming out in full force? No, but I've waited a long time to see them pop up in the market again. And to contradict what I said before about cash buyers skipping inspections, they do, but according to realtor.com they say that cash buyers are becoming less inspection averse. So, like, I gave the 50/50 shot, that's my favorite word anecdotal. According to realtor.com they're like, you know, cash buyers are starting to say, why don't we get an inspection? Why don't we see about this house before we proceed on it? And to back that up to argue their side of the point, we have had a couple where we've had a national company contact us, ask for a W9, we do the process. We charge a little extra, because it's kind of like, you have to explain it to four different people, and you're dealing with a corporation and all that stuff. So you know what? We have had a couple of those recently where we didn't have them in years past, so they're cash buyers. So you know what? Maybe they're right and I'm wrong or maybe it's somewhere in the middle.

Beon DeNood 
Okay, all right. So then it was just over, was it just about a third of cash buyers. So then you'll see a large chunk of those possibly turning into inspections.

Ian Robertson 
Hypothetically, that's what realtor.com, their numbers kind of suggest. I kind of lean the other way on that. I think more cash buyers, less inspections. Because every inspection that a cash buyer takes, takes it from the market that would 95% of the time get an inspection. So you're still reducing your chances of getting an inspection out of that particular buyer, in my opinion.

Beon DeNood 
So, when it comes to the market health overall, I mean, if we're looking at Wall Street equivalent, and others, hedging and property, because that's one thing too, is there's a lot of talk about us, you know, sort of riding the wave of the AI bubble on the stock market, and that we're going to see some sort of like retracement happening here, where there's going to be a pullback. If we do see a larger scale pullback, how does that affect that portion of the market that would be putting money into property? Is that going to be more or less volume there?

Ian Robertson 
So I think there's a disinterest now from Wall Street, basically they, and it's not just Wall Street, it's corporate America. You know, during the pandemic, it was easy. They're like, oh, man, if we buy up these houses instead of, I mean, there was a, what some people call a mini recession at that time, and it's like, okay, either we could lose percentages on our portfolio, or we could buy up all these single family homes and make 10 to 30% depending on the market. And so that's what they did. And it was a no brainer for them. But now housing is so overpriced, and that's one of the things still allowing inventory to build up. As much as I hate to say it, because I want families to have homes. I want homes to sell. We need the inflated price for the moment of homes to allow inventory to build. If the prices of homes go down too quickly, then you're going to see more corporate America, more Wall Street buying up homes again instead of families. So if there's enough inventory out there, though, then the prices of homes can come down gradually. People can gradually start to buy more. Inventory will rise, and our business will be great as home inspectors, because the demographic, families buying homes that we're looking for, they're going to be buying homes again. The demographic that we don't want buying homes, corporate America and Wall Street and stuff, they won't be. It's complex, but personally, I want to see what's happening in Florida eventually happen everywhere, where people are walking around and just saying, it's a buyer's market, price is still staying high, but then gradually coming down. And houses, on average, are selling for less than asking price, instead of the reverse. For years it was, if you ask 400 grand, you were getting, you know, 420 to 460. Now it's, if you're asking 400 grand, you're getting like, 385 you know, or 390, that's kind of what we want to see.

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, I see all of those things that you mentioned there as positive signs for the home inspector looking at your business for the next while. But if it is your first year, and you've done pretty good in Q2 and Q3 like Ian's saying, Q4 typically you're going to be slower, Q1, and then pick up again in Q1 and Q2. That's at least the trend that I've seen in the while that I've been in the home inspection business.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah, so I mean, we can even watch the number of reports that happen in the app. October is always one of our best months. Everybody's just getting things done. They got the kids in school in September. They don't want to be bogged down with buying a house during holiday season. So October's still going to be a great month, typically. And so this is for the new guys. And you know, if you're an experienced guy, but you haven't felt this yet, maybe you could use it too. But for the new guys, you're not going to kill it end of November through the end of January. Even in the markets where you think it would like Southern California, Texas and Florida, because of the weather and stuff like that, you know, people aren't going to want to buy a house as much, statistically speaking, while they're traveling for the holidays and all that stuff. January comes around, people have less money, less time. They're just getting back to their lives after the holidays, February and March can be okay, but Q2, Q3, that's where we make our money, you know. So I don't think this winter is going to be as bad, though, Beon. Last year wasn't as bad there. Like I said, there's always going to be people saying, oh my goodness, the markets terrible. I'm going out of business. I can't get any work. I know guys that have been in this industry for 20 years that every January they talk about how they're going out of business, and then they advertise that they are the best and busiest home inspector in the area come May, you know, so I don't get caught up in that, but I think this winter is going to be a little bit better. I don't think we're going to get hit as hard. I think enough inventory is built up across the US and parts of Canada that we'll be like, okay, this isn't so bad.

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, yeah. Well, that's a good news, like, if I'm a home inspector, that all sounds positive, sounds like good news, which is nice.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah, it is. You know, I hated, you know, probably six out of the last 8 quarterly reports we did, I was kind of like, oh man, we even skipped one, didn't we?

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, it was so bad, there was nothing new to report.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah, we skipped one. We're like, man, we can't just, like, bring depressing news. But I'll tell you, I'm happy about the outlook right now. If you made it through the past two years and you're listening to this, first of all, good for you. I'm glad you listened to us. There is market share at a discount right now that you'll never see it again like this until the next time this happens in 10 or 20 years. Buy up as much of the market as you can right now. Grab it like a crazy person in Walmart and in the discount bin, just everything you can, because then once things start churning upward again anyways, like they already are, you're gonna love that you took that time for that.

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny, I was thinking the other day, we were looking at a couple of cities where we like traveling, and we were looking for restaurants that we used to go to, you know, oh, wouldn't it be nice to go to? And, man, I'm not kidding you, about 60 to 70% of them did not exist anymore. And when you traced it back, it was during the pandemic years that they disappeared. But there's a whole bunch of new restaurants serving similar cuisine that have now taken up that space, you know. So I guess they were really on the front line of that kind of wave. But the gap that was created during the tough times in the home inspection industry, that gap is right to be filled now, but like you said, I think it's going to get filled quickly, and then we're gonna see another saturation point, you know, at some point in the future. But I'm happy. I'm excited for home inspectors to have reached this point, you know, where we're finally like, okay, we're on stable ground here. Things are looking good.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah. And I like your restaurant analogy, because when that restaurant moved out, it was literally vacant space. So as we look at the home inspection industry, actually Nick Gromicko, and this was interesting, he was telling an associate of mine, he goes, yeah, we've lost a ton of inspectors, and he gave the number. It's one of the first times that he gave a number that I've heard him say anything under 30,000 and all that means is there's vacancies everywhere. People are going to go looking for inspections, and there's going to be less inspectors out there. And I will still say, I've been saying this now for two years, this is the golden age of commercial inspections on top of that. I mean, home inspections are picking up, but never been a better time to grab market share for both of those industries. Well worth anything that we can do. And before you send me an email after this podcast or a message or something, and say, Ian, should I get another website and start another business from our commercial company? The answer is yes, 100% you should. Don't try to combine them. Go back and listen to all of our podcasts on commercial inspections. Keep them separate. It just works out a lot better. But either way, I'm super stoked for what we have going forward. Everybody get through the winter. The winter will be okay. Don't get discouraged through the winter. I think next spring is going to be even better than this year. And then I think we're going to finally hit the ground running in 2027/2028.

Beon DeNood 
Awesome. That's awesome. Great to hear.

Ian Robertson 
Do you disagree with me at all, Beon?

Beon DeNood 
No, I don't see any reason to, makes me feel good.

Ian Robertson 
Awesome. Well, if you're going to Texas, and you're going to be at the InterNACHI, and I really have no idea how to say it, TPREIA convention, they're calling it TPREIA. It sounds like a character in a book. And then TPREIA came and cast a spell upon them. I have no idea what TPREIA is, but Texas Real Estate something, I don't know. Not TREC, but TPREIA. Or like a medical condition, I had a TPREIA removed.

Beon DeNood 
Put a little bit of TREC on it, and you'll be all set.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah, exactly. I hope they listen to this after the convention, because then I have some splaining to do.

Beon DeNood 
Well, I can't wait to see you in a 10 gallon hat. You must send some pictures. It's gonna be awesome.

Ian Robertson 
Yeah. We'll be in Texas. Come by the Inspector Toolbelt booth and come and say hi. And Beon, thanks for being on the show. We'll talk soon.

Beon DeNood 
Yeah, thanks a lot, man. Take care.

Ian Robertson 
You too.

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