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Ep. 133 - From Beijing Bars to Bestseller: How 14 Days in Chinese Prison Changed Everything

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What happens when a college football player gets locked up in Beijing for smoking weed and turns it into a bestselling book empire?

Picture this: You're 24, fresh out of college, teaching English in Beijing when three Chinese police officers knock on your door. Within hours, you're locked in a cell with 14 Chinese men you can't communicate with, eating three bowls of soup a day with nothing but a plastic spoon. No one knows where you are. No one's coming to save you.

But here's the kicker – Chancellor saw opportunity where others would see only despair.

Instead of playing victim, he took accountability. Instead of making excuses, he made plans. And instead of letting this experience break him, he turned those 15 days into a #1 bestselling book that launched a publishing empire.

In this raw, unfiltered conversation, Chancellor breaks down:

  • The exact moment he knew his life was about to change forever
  • How football taught him the accountability that saved his sanity in prison
  • Why he refuses to blame anyone but himself for his decisions
  • The transition from athlete to entrepreneur that most ex-players never figure out
  • How he's now coaching both kids on the field AND aspiring authors to bestseller status

CONNECT WITH CHANCELLOR JACKSON:

Instagram: @korlehj
LinkedIn: Chancellor Jackson
YouTube: @10korleh 
Book: 14 Days in Beijing 

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Stoy:

This man that we're about to talk to right now was locked up in Beijing. Okay, we're gonna get through that. We're also gonna get through what a terrible university he played for at Stetson as well before my time. But no, seriously, chancellor Jackson's on. I'm excited to have him on, not only his story about his book, but what he's turned that into in his everyday life. You know, helping still coach kids, still going through that in the schools and still being someone in our society for the good. I know a lot of people who have been locked up and gone through a lot of things and they. They don't do the good. They keep going back. So I appreciate you coming on, sir. And now with that intro, I'm sure everyone's like what? Huh? Huh? Um, and we're gonna dive into your book too, so we'll make sure to highlight that too. But I appreciate you coming on.

Chancellor Jackson:

Yes sir, man, appreciate you family, blessings and balance to you. Um, big shout out to everyone that's tuning in right now, man, y'all the real MVP, so shout out to y'all.

Stoy:

Absolutely. Well, let's dive into it. One, what the hell am I talking about? Right? Uh, let's get into it.

Chancellor Jackson:

So yeah, man. Um, so April 4th, 2019. Uh, well, lemme back up a little bit. So, after I graduated from. D Stetson University, go Hatters. After I graduated from Stetson, I landed my first job, uh, in China teaching English kids. So that's what, uh, brought me to Beijing. I was supposed to do a year only. Ended up doing six months before things went left. Um, it's April 4th, 2019. I'm finna get ready to head to an event to meet some friends and other colleagues. And we was gonna be customizing like Chinese fans, so it was gonna be just dope little getaway. Um. So I was like, I'm a pre-game before I go. So I'm in the apartment by myself drinking some Chinese wine coolers, smoking a little cannabis. I get done, get dressed, make sure I got everything I need before I walk out the door. Um, and I hear a knock. Guests aren't unfamiliar, so curious to see who it is. I look to the people on next to the three officers from the Beijing Police spook instantly off the rip, you know what I'm saying? Scrubble put everything up, open the door. They come in questioning me about drugs. I'm sitting here playing the fool like I don't know what they talking about. Then they put out a drug test. I. Right then and there, I said, oh yeah, it is over with. Do the drug test results come back, instantly fail. Of course, now the cuffs are on me. All forms of communication ceases exist at this point. Um, bounce around from precinct to precinct before I'm eventually taken to the jail where I'm housed and I'm locked up 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 15 minutes to one cell, nine wooden beds, three soups a day, and all I had was a plastic bowl and a plastic spoon. Nothing was. Explain to me as far as how this process works, how the jail operates, how long I'm going to be here, what my specific charges are. Uh, nobody knows I'm in here. So at this point I'm sitting in this cell with 14 other Chinese men, none of which I can talk to. So it ain't really looking too good right about now, but I. Most importantly, accountability. I had to hold myself accountable. It's like, okay, well my decision making is the reason why I ended up in this predicament, and I was conscious of my decision making and I knew the repercussions. So now that things have hit the fan, and here we are, hey, I ain't got nobody point to blame at but myself. So however this finna play out, I gotta take it to the chin. I don't know what I'm have to endure, but I know when it's all said and done. I'm still gonna be me. My spirit's still gonna be intact, my mental's still gonna be intact. Um, it's gonna be a rollercoaster for sure, but it ain't gonna be nothing we can't handle. Um, so take note of every minor detail because it's gonna be a great story to tell once you outta this predicament.

Stoy:

And it and it is. Yeah. Me, we got the story, we got the base of what happened and one just being black men in America. We've gone through a lot what had in previous right. Before all of that growing up, going to college, all of that, what do you think led to your. Taking accountability and your ownership in that situation. What raised you? Who raised you? How did you get to that point? Because not everyone would've got to that point, right? A lot of em blame someone else, blame this, did this, but you said, no, it's on me. We're gonna go. Great story. I'm gonna turn it to a positive. How the hell did you get to that

Chancellor Jackson:

football? The beautiful game of football definitely instilled all of that in me. I've always been, uh. Pretty good kid. I've been a good kid in my entire life. Natural born leader, honor roll student. You know what I'm saying? I never had no behavior issues in school like that. For real, for real. So that, that's always been me. But once I started playing football, that just sharpened and fine tuned me even more.'cause I. My end goal was to play college football. When it was all said and done, I'm like, well, I can't play college ball and I'm a bonehead outside this classroom and you know what I'm saying, acting up in the streets. So I was like, nah, I gotta do my due diligence on and off the field, um, and of course perform on the field, you know what I'm saying? So I can get to where it is that I'm trying to go. Um, so it was really just my love and passion for the game. Uh, that really just helps to fine tune me even more. And then of course, once you get to college, it's a whole different ballgame then. You know what I'm saying? Ownership, accountability. It's preached and it's, you know what I'm saying? Shoved down your throat, you know what I'm saying? Once you get to college. Um, so, uh, yeah, I, I got a shout out to, gotta give a shout to the game of football for sure.

Stoy:

And we're gonna hit upon that more obviously,'cause it's who we are. But, alright, so we, we, we get through, you're locked up, holding accountable, you're in the cell. What next, what happened next?

Chancellor Jackson:

So the first three days, I was the only foreigner, only English speaker in the cell. So really, you know what I'm saying? I just had a full 72 hours to sit back and reflect on everything. You know what I'm saying? We often reflect about our day, the week, the month, maybe the year, you know what I'm saying? Or our live, depending on how much time we have to sit there and reflect, but we gonna keep it a buck. How much time is that? What, 10 minutes if that. You know what I'm saying? For real. So I had a full seven, two hours to just sit there in solitude. I got plenty of people around me, but I can't communicate with them whatsoever. So it was like pretty much just being in solitude for seven, two hours and just sit back and reflect on everything. So that was just, just reality check, um, just like, damn, I gotta get myself together because this, I ain't it. This ain't it. I was just on nobody. Um, we just gotta move smarter, you know what I'm saying? Just be better. Um, and of course it's like, okay, once we get outta here, what's gonna be the game plan? You know what I'm saying? Because the job is over with. This is, that's gonna be a wrap, but it's like, alright, you got somewhat experienced with educate, working in education, you man you over here teaching it in on other side of the world that's gonna open up opportunities. So we just got to keep, well, I know that's gonna be something we can get back into once we get back to the states. Um, but um, I was just like, I definitely need to link up with certain people. I know once I get around them and I tell'em about this story. We, we gonna come up with something so, you know what I'm saying, monetize or do something with the experience because I'm like, I'm going through this for a reason. Of course my decision making for sure, but it's like, I feel like it's bigger than that. Like this, this is a purpose of me going through this. Um, what is that purpose? I have no clue. Only time will tell for sure. But. Um, on day four I moved to a new cell. I'm amongst other English speakers. Uh, so now it's a shifts in the story'cause okay, misery loves company. We ain't alone no more. We got somebody we can communicate with, but we also learned how the process works. And ironically enough, everybody knows all their information to the fullest detail. When it came to me, I don't know what, what happened when I, you know what I'm saying? I was the only one that got the short end of the stick'cause I don't know what's going on. Um, and it's like, okay, we start piecing, I. Together the puzzle, but it's like still, how long will I be here? I have no clue. Until one day they just finally called my name to come out. Um, and I was immediately taken to my apartment to pack up the rest of my stuff and then deported from the country. All within like four hours of being released from the jail. Yeah, they got me up out of there. They said,

Stoy:

it's time for you to

Chancellor Jackson:

go real quick.

Stoy:

Okay. Alright, so you land back, you land back here. What's the next steps and what's the timeline between when you landed to figuring out to write a book and get back on your feet?

Chancellor Jackson:

Yeah,

Stoy:

so

Chancellor Jackson:

I got back, um, mid-April of 2019, so the school year is pretty much coming to an end. So I'm like, I, I might as well just wait till next school year, you know what I'm saying? To try to look, look for opportunities, work opportunities, at least, um. Until then, man, I gotta figure out how to get my money back because my money all the way in Beijing right now sitting in the bank. So I gotta figure out how to get that back. Uh, a lot of people didn't even know I was in China, so the select few that I did, you know what I'm saying? Definitely linking up with them, surprising them, telling them what happened. You know what I'm saying? Just sharing the story with verbally with people at first. Um, and then every time I'm telling the story to people, it's just like. Got they undivided tension. It is like they're just blown away, but by what I'm presented to'em. So I'm like, okay, I got something in my hands. How can I get this with the masses? How can I put this out there? Um, and it wasn't, I was kicking into one with one of my good partners, DeMarco Reds. He was a traditionally published author for, we graduated high school in 2014, so he was the one who was like, Hey bro, you ain't think about writing a book about the experience? I was like, boy, that's a good idea. I don't even know where to start, but that's a good idea. He took it even further. Took my phone, went to my notes section, left me a little outline, and I just started filling it in. And by doing that, I caught a feel for how I wanted to go about telling the story. So moved it to a Google Docs, took me about four months to write it, um, and then just spent the next six months just getting it ready for publishing. So on April 4th, 2019, I was arrested in China. On April 4th, 2020, very next calendar year, I released the very first version of 14 days in Beijing. I was ranked the number new bestseller. Um, in three different genres On my debut, I was still my pre-order when I was ranking, but you know what I'm saying. Each day after that it was just a different genre. I was number one in a different genre. It was just a snowball effect after that. So with all the success books in Days of Beijing had, that led to me writing more books, um, publishing more books. I published two books that I didn't write, I helped, you know what I'm saying? I helped two other people publish their books. Um, so we six books in now, uh, two bestsellers, no, four bestsellers. Um. Got my, started my publishing company in 2021, um, and started turning, took that service, uh, created the service of coaching people through the writing publish process.'cause it just surprised me. It was just shocking to me just how many people had aspirations or lifelong dreams of becoming a published author or writing a book. You know what I'm saying? For me, it was just idea I was given. I stepped up to the plate and hit a home run on my first time at bat, you know what I'm saying? But I acquired a lot of game and a lot of wisdom and knowledge about self-publishing. Uh, just through my own due diligence. Uh, just wanted to learn more about the field. Um, so I was like, okay, for sure. Let me see. I'm work with any, any and everybody if you interested. For sure. I got number game for you, but shout out to the two, uh, authors that actually saw the process and trusted the process all the way through Anthony McKinney. His book went number one, uh, in two different genres. His is titled The Fatherless Child. It's by his experience getting li uh, getting molested before the age of 10. How that affected him and shaped him into who he is today. And then the other author, Isha Sadler, at the time she wrote her book, she was 15 years old, 16 when she published it, not only did she go number one, she went number one to two different genres and she helped for like nine straight days. Stop playing with that little girl on baby. So big shout out to them too. Um, so that let me know right then and there. I said, okay, but you know what you doing? Like you can coach people, you can get people to publish their books, but it seems it's a common theme right here to even say we produce best s You know what I'm saying? You've done it for yourself. You also helped two other people do it on their first book. So it's like, Hey, we gotta keep our foot on this gas. For sure. For sure. You know

Stoy:

what I'm saying? Yeah. Most. And so why isn't that the full time? Why? Why still help kids? Why still coaching if you know they're so dominant in this world? Why isn't that a bigger thing? Where are you at? Still

Chancellor Jackson:

gotta market it. Still gotta push it, you know what I'm saying? Still gotta push it out there. We ain't nowhere near where we want to be yet, but. Yeah, we still got a long way to go for sure, but we gonna get there. Most definitely. Most definitely. For sure. I'm actually in the, uh, works of creating a course, a 14 day course and a 14 week course, you feel me. Um, the 14 day course, it's pretty much self-sufficient. You can do it, you can be, you can publish your own book on your own. Now you want me to be a little bit more hands on with the process? Then we got the 14 week course that'll be available as well. So yeah, y'all be on the looks out for that for sure. And from that point on, we going to just continue to scale it, um, and grow. Love it. Love it.

Stoy:

Alright. Day job. The guy have a day job, right?

Chancellor Jackson:

Yeah,

Stoy:

you do. Every day now.

Chancellor Jackson:

Um, well still work in education. So like I said, I was like, I knew, I, I'm like, bro, I applied to, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia. We got so many counties in the metro Atlanta area. So I was like, I can pick and choose of whichever one I want to dabble in, if you know what I'm saying. I got plenty of options. Um, and I just knew, I was like, bro, them folks gonna see their resume and see that you can talk in Beijing, but that's gonna open up doors off the real, like, it, it is, it is a conversation starter every time. Um, so I knew I wasn't gonna have no trouble with that, so still been in that. And then I just fell into coaching in 2019 too. I was, that was ironic. Um, I had a little homie that stayed across the street from me who was, uh, was attending the high school that I attended, and he was like, Hey bro, you should come up to the, uh, the high school Monday. You know what I'm saying? Watch us during summer workouts. I'm like, for sure. I pull up, uh, and I pulled up and I'm just out there, just posted, just watching them and they break off into position. Uh. Groups and I go down there with the dbs, just watching them in Indy and then just giving small pointers to the players, just pulling'em off to the side, give'em small pointers here and there. Um, and then the DB coach, like, Hey man, you trying to coach? I'm like, boy, I ain't got, at that point in time, I ain't got nothing opportunity in time with my hands. You know what I'm saying? I'm fresh outta Beijing jail six. You know what I'm saying? For sure. I'm, I'm open to any and all opportunities, so I was originally supposed to get on with the high school I attended. But the ad, he was move. He was dragging his feet and pushing my paperwork through. So I ended up attending this luncheon that all the coaches and. The county I played for attend every year. I was like, man, watch. I've run into all my old coaches at this, uh, convention, and lo and behold, I did. The majority of'em was at the school I coach at now, Wheeler High School. So I was like, oh man, all y'all over here, Wheeler. I said, oh, y'all got a little coach. This is a nice little squad right here. And one of my former coaches said, what were you trying to do? You trying to coach? I'm like, bro, I'm, I'm open for all opportunities. I'm up here with Campbell, but I ain't a part of they staff just yet. Ad dragged his feet. He sat there, he introduced me to the principal at that same day, the principal, the ad, and the head coach. Next thing I know, they was pushing my paperwork through. So like that's just how that fell into that. And here we are. What, entering year seven? It is been a, it is been a five too. I enjoy working with the, the young men. We've had few, a couple classes now. You know what I'm saying? Thatt came and gone. So it's just crazy to see just the evolution, you know what I'm saying? I see why coaches get in this game and being it for 10 to 20 years and then, you know what I'm saying, time just flies by, you know what I'm saying? It's crazy. This year seven.

Stoy:

So football for both you and I, although, you know, we had a little, I had a little better career, you know, I won the conference championship. I mean, just sitting right, right there. But football has been what drove me and where I'm at. I mean, there, I wouldn't be who I am without football. Big from a little kid on, you know, my boys are starting to tackle this year too, so like, it, it is just in, in the blood. What can you say to those?'cause I, I just, I'll be releasing, this will come out July, in, in the first two weeks of June. I'm actually releasing another thing that specifically talks about football because I've been asked so many times, shit, my son play football because of the concussions and yada, yada, yada. And I really highlight and say, first of all, every sport's dangerous soccer actually has more concussions than football, right? Arts are just more violent. Two, what they'll learn from being a human from football, I. We, they will not get in band as much as they will football. You know, not to call it my band geeks. I love it. The games sound great, but like truthfully, the, the lessons learned in life in football are, are bar none. What do you say to the parents maybe that ask you that? Or if kids ask you that about specifically the concussion piece, um, of football?

Chancellor Jackson:

For sure. I mean it's just like it's now, football is revolutionizing, it isn't just a straight bang bang football, no more flag football is growing like no other. You could play flag. You ain't gotta worry about all that then. You know what I'm saying? That's really contactless. You just gotta pull a flag. That's it. You, you still probably. You'll say rolled ankles, ACL, you'll still suffer, but you can suffer from that in any, like you said, in any sport. But if it's the concussions or just how violent the sport is, flag football is a great alternative. And it's a, it is, I'm sure it's an Olympic sport by now. If it isn't, you know what I'm saying? You'd be able to complete, compete on national, uh, stages just playing flag football. So that's a whole alternative to you. So. What else? What else excuse you got? That's what what else? Excuse You got you. Baby. Strap on this, uh, this flag and keep it

Stoy:

going. For sure. What do you teach these kids that come in about in football, grinding and having grit? You have to have it. Yeah. We're not all blessed with the talent in the world, but it's always the hard workers facts. What is the thing that you're teaching these young kids about being able to grind and grit both in the game and how that translates to outside the game? It is just the, it just

Chancellor Jackson:

boil down how bad you want, how bad you want, succeed at the sport. Honestly. What are your goals? What is your purpose of playing this sport? You just like to wear the jerseys on game day with the rest of the team. Look cool. Then for sure. You know what I'm saying? Whatever floats your boat, but this is something you really wanna take serious.'cause this case in high school, getting paid a lot of money nowadays, these boys made, you could be, man, you could be paid in high school, but if you're not taking this stuff serious now, I don't know. What's the, what's the point? Honestly, you know what I'm saying? For sure. For sure. This thing can be as big as you wanna make it. Um, and go as far as you wanna take it. Now you got to work harder than everybody. You think you work hard. Nah, you ain't seen nothing yet. But I guarantee we can find a cat out here right now that's really getting it and can show you how to really get it. So it's like, but you gotta put everything you love into this sport. Um, and the football guys will bless you for sure, for sure. Um, that's on and off the field. Everything you do. How you do anything is how you do everything. So you can't cut up in the classroom and think it's gonna translate over to the football field and positive things are going to occur. No, you gotta stack good on good. You gotta continue to stack. Good on good, continue to do right? That's what we quote that wheel high school do. Right? Do Right and good things will come back to you. So if there's something that you wanna do, man, give it your all dog, give it your all, and watch your return and dividends, like in ways you could never imagine. For sure. For sure. Especially getting your school paid for. That's the most important part. You get that paid for and you be able to, now you can have a little pocket change. So you ain't even gotta be broke the whole time you in college. You know what I'm saying? It is like this, this shit, man. Y'all got it made. Boy, y'all boy, if we could go back, man, let that been us.

Stoy:

Right? Come on. Ever hook you was talking about. I'm like, if this was my day and age, are you kidding me? I mean, we, I had to work as, um, a security at the bar, like just to eat really, basically. Like these kids don't even have to think about eating right. Um, you know, they're buying cars and taking care of families and it's like, it ain't fair. It's not even the same game. You

Chancellor Jackson:

ain't buying a house bust down chains and watches.

Stoy:

Right. And let's talk about this just because we are former athletes in the end of your career, right? Mm-hmm. Whether it's high school, for us it was college, luckily. Talk to me about what you went through after that last snap. Yeah. And where you are mentally at, because I know, I felt when I lost that last snap of ours, regardless that we won the championship or not, like you felt. This emptiness. You, you, you don't have a team anymore. You don't have that where we're grinding and bleeding and beating up on each other, literally day in and day out. And I know it. I felt a certain way about it. So why don't you talk to me through how you felt after that transition and how much further that was from Beijing? Yeah, it was a process.'cause

Chancellor Jackson:

you identify, you embody a student athlete and a football player to the fullest, and now that is no longer the case. You have to re-identify yourself all over again. I done seen folks stay afloat or completely sink, you know what I'm saying? When they comes times across that bridge. Um, for me, I was just like, man, who am I? Chance? Like, what do you enjoy doing? What are you good at doing? What, what do you like to do? You know what I'm saying? Like, what is our purpose? What's gonna be next? I have no clue. But I gotta figure it out. For sure, for sure. And it's, it was kind of, I saw it as a challenge almost because it's like, okay, now I get to, it's like a fresh start all over again. Like I get to MI get to paint myself as a whole completely different way. So I'm like, I gotta figure it out. I just gotta try a bunch of stuff'cause I don't know what it is I wanna do. And so I'm like, I just gotta put myself out there and try a bunch of stuff. And I'm like, by doing that, you gonna figure out what it is you like to do, what you don't wanna do. You know what I'm saying? All that. So it just helped narrow it down. Your decisions or Williamson or just finding your next football, your next passion or your purpose? Um, so I was just start applying for jobs off the rip. You know what I'm saying? I knew the league. I'm like, nah, the NFL, that's not happening. So I'm gonna start applying for jobs. And I was applying for corporate positions mainly. And I was ha landing interviews. I'm talking about some of these interviews I'm getting flown out for, put up a hotel. I said, boy, ain't no way, boy, I'm finna find me something. Boy, they, I'm finna find me a good paying job too. Nah, that wasn't the case. That wasn't the case. It was like eight months had passed and I was like, bro, I done moved back home. I'm like, bro, what is going on? I done did everything quote unquote the textbook way and I keep, you know what I'm saying? I keep ending up the shorting the stick. Keep him with the same BS excuse. Oh, uh, you lack. Uh, you lack the experience, so we gonna go with somebody a little bit more that you got a little bit more experience. But it's like, bro, y'all knew that was the case when I submitted my resume before y'all sit up and paid for all of this stuff. Y'all knew that was the case. Now I sat down face to face with y'all. Wouldn't have shifted paradigm then, but I ain't really take it too personally. Um,'cause I've been in this position before when they was trying to find a school to play at, you know what I'm saying? After high school. So it's like, man, just keep putting yourself out there. You gonna find something. Somebody gonna say yes, eventually, let's reapproach our job searching. Let's do that.'cause corporate might not be for us family. We done tried this for months, ain't had no success. Let's res, let's restructure this. And with me switching up, my job searching, that's when I seen, oh, teach ins of kids in China. That sound lit. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I could do that fly. First job, tell me yes, after eight months of being told no on the other side of the world, oh yes Lord, this is what we finna do. No ifs or bust about it. Um, and I just knew going out to China, I was like, this is going to be. A great starting point for me, just trying to figure myself out. I'm finna move to a whole different side of the world. I'm gonna be out there alone. I'm gonna learn a lot about myself. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no telling who I'm gonna be after this year. So I was looking forward to the journey, and it did exactly what I expected it to do. I just didn't expect to go the way that it went. But all in all, it still did what it was supposed to do, for sure.

Stoy:

Yeah. You figured it out. Just. As we wrap this up, I always ask this question, what is it that you want our listeners to take from this conversation today that maybe they can implement right now as they're listening to help them in their journey going forward? Actually,

Chancellor Jackson:

I got a quote that comes to mind immediately. Um, and it's about Nipsey Hussle, and it goes long-winded running through this life like it was mine. Never settling, but setting every goal high. 1000 burs to the path, to my own destruction or success. But what is a mistake without the lesson? You see, the best teacher in life is your own experience, and none of us know who we are until we fail. They say every person's defined by their reactions to any given situation. Well, who would you want to define? You? Someone else or yourself? Whatever you choose to do, homie, just give your heart to it and stay strong.

Stoy:

I love that. Absolutely love that. And we're gonna have all his connections with this book, link with this company for publishing. We're gonna have that everywhere. So don't worry about that, folks. Uh, it's gonna be out there, but if you wanna hit up chance, just do so. Please hear his story, what he said on the art podcast today, but keep following him. And if you have a story to be said, I'm sure there is one person I already know that's here to help you publish your book, right? Yes, Lord. Yes, Lord. So let's again, I appreciate you, uh, sir, and you keep doing what you're doing.

Chancellor Jackson:

Appreciate you family, everybody that tuned in for the whole episode. You a real one for sure.

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