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Intimacy in Relationships, Part 1, Show Notes
In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast, we are discussing intimacy in relationships. 
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Intimacy

Relationships encompass more than just romantic feelings and passion. They are characterized by the ability to feel secure and intimate with your partner on all levels. It involves wholeheartedly sharing yourself with another person, forming a deep connection beyond mere infatuation.
Intimacy goes beyond just romantic relationships. Understanding the various levels of intimacy can help you foster deeper connections in all your relationships, not just the romantic ones. Having knowledge about these levels allows you to be more intentional and purposeful when cultivating intimacy with others.
Levels of Intimacy

1 – Safe Communication. 
The level of intimacy in everyday communication with strangers is generally low. It's the kind of interaction we often have with people we don't know well, like the casual chat with a supermarket checkout girl or a brief conversation with someone at a retail store. 
When it comes to using facts and information in writing, the risk of rejection is minimal or virtually nonexistent. Since personal feelings and opinions are not involved, the content tends to be more objective and less likely to be criticized or disagreed with. 

2 – Sharing Other Peoples’ Opinions and Beliefs.  
During this stage, we tend to open up and reveal more about ourselves by referencing what others say or believe. This can be done in a subtle manner, such as mentioning what our boss always says or commenting on a recent news event . By doing so, we gauge the other person's reaction and gain further insights into their thoughts and opinions.. When faced with individuals who hold different opinions, it is common to feel uneasy or threatened by potential criticism or rejection. In such situations, it is natural to distance ourselves as a protective response.

3 – Sharing Our Own Personal Opinions and Beliefs. 
When we express our thoughts, opinions, and beliefs, there is a certain level of risk involved. It opens us up to vulnerability as others may not agree or understand our perspective. However, if the outcome doesn't align with our expectations, we have the option to acknowledge that

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Speaker 1:

In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast, we're finishing up on intimacy and relationships and I got a special surprise for you we have some special guests with us. Hang in there, folks, we will be right back.

Speaker 2:

Get ready for the Motor City Hypnotist, David R Wright. Originating from the suburbs of Detroit, Michigan, he has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome the Motor City Hypnotist, David R Wright.

Speaker 4:

All right before you start wait, wait, wait wait, wait, you got something about before you start.

Speaker 3:

I have never sat this close to you at a time. I know, I know.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Motor City in this podcast. Folks and you'll see if you're watching us on Facebook Live get a little different view today because we're on a different camera and you'll know that in just a moment. But welcome. We're here with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast in the palatial podcast, your voice, southfield Studios. You know, I say palatial because they have a lot of nice things in the studio, including a full bar, and that's what we've been joined tonight and you guys will learn more about that in just a moment. But, my God, we are here, matt, as usual. Is that other voice you here? Hi David, hey Matt.

Speaker 3:

How are you doing.

Speaker 1:

I'm doing great now.

Speaker 3:

How are you doing?

Speaker 1:

I'm sure you're doing better than.

Speaker 3:

I am, you know, I feel, I feel like an old soul.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure you do. Let me tell you, folks, first where you can find me. My website is MotorCityHipnotistcom. Check it out. In fact, that's been updated. Just this past week I've been working my ass off. I'm serious. I got all my my store set up with MP3 downloads. You can get MP3s for hypnosis, for stopping smoking and weight loss and anxiety and golf performance. Check it out. All the products are there. Weight loss, you say, I do I do say weight loss.

Speaker 4:

You say I golf, I see some, I did.

Speaker 1:

I did. You can find me on social media. Facebook and YouTube are both MotorCity Hypnotist, and on Instagram and Snapchat with our, which are both MotorCity Hypno, hypno Hypno. And for your free hypnosis guide, that link has changed. You can find still find the information in the show notes, but if you text hypnosis to 313-800-8510, it will pop right up on your phone or your mobile device. It's yours to keep it's free, you know, grab it.

Speaker 3:

I'm so curious as to what who's sitting across the table.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to let you know in just a moment, don't get ahead of yourself. I am, and the most important thing is, if you're listening, subscribe to the show. I know sometimes I will pull up a podcast and just listen, but I won't subscribe. That's bad on me. But if you're listening, subscribe. And the other thing that you can do that would really help us out is leave a review. I know most time people only leave a review when they're pissed off. I get it, but leave a review when you like something. That that's a better way to do things, because more people see it, more people listen and we build our audience. Yeah, that's how it works.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, leave a review, even if it's crappy.

Speaker 1:

I, you know what. Here's the thing, and I've learned this I published a book a couple of years ago no year and a half ago and here's the thing you're going to get bad reviews, but that just shows that it's real, it's not like something that's like fabricated, and that the reviews aren't fake. So it gives you a realistic view of what you're getting. So, yeah, definitely review. So you know what time it is, matt. Yes, it is Time for a winner of the week.

Speaker 5:

Yes, that's how we did is done.

Speaker 3:

So, dave, I want you to introduce our two guests because I want them to be a part of winter.

Speaker 1:

They can be a part of the one. Other week we have Yvonne and Mike from A&B liquor. They were actually here for the man gave happy hour podcast represent have have stuck around to sit in on my podcast.

Speaker 6:

Now I don't know very much. Thank you for having us.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what they know about mental health, but that's okay because they do supply that how many? Bottles around the table here, Matt One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 11.

Speaker 3:

That's called mental health.

Speaker 7:

It's called relaxing mental health.

Speaker 1:

You know we're part of the therapy also One bottle a day, keep the doctor away. Remember that it does, and I'm enjoying some old soul myself, which I've just discovered this evening. For any of the any of you whiskey fans, out there because of these two gentlemen. No, I know I would have never stumbled across this.

Speaker 6:

I would have seen this on a shelf and just passed it on by a lot of seriously, yeah, but the problem is with old soul when you get a store pick. Yeah, totally different from a regular. Okay.

Speaker 3:

Yes, this is what it is.

Speaker 1:

Old soul picks.

Speaker 7:

That's where we pick.

Speaker 1:

So, if you want the good old soul, you need to go to A&B liquor and you guys tell me your location, since I don't have those written down, shelby.

Speaker 7:

Township 21 in Van Dyke, clinton Township 18 and a half in Hayes, new Baltimore, washington and Green Street in downtown, new Baltimore. And then Mikey here is in Davidson, but on Davidson Road between M 15 and Irish Road.

Speaker 3:

Perfect. You guys just do amazing work. Yes, I'm serious, I'm highly recommending old soul.

Speaker 1:

Go in and ask them as the guys for it. They'll know exactly what you're talking about and what you want, because it is fantastic.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so what it?

Speaker 1:

was so. Other than these two heroes, let's talk about our hero and our winner of the week.

Speaker 1:

So, winner of the week, we celebrate something that has happened in the past or recently and we want them and it's just, it's always good news because people you know, you see so much to just negative and just noise going on in the world and we focus on good stories. People who've done things that are good or made somebody feel better or nice. You know they're winners, that's what we call them. So during a hike on a trip in Fundy National Park, new Brunswick, a group of swimmers have the good fortune of being found by some hikers. That included an off duty police officer who ended up saving their friend from a raging Eddie. Okay.

Speaker 3:

So what is a raging Eddie?

Speaker 1:

Well, an Eddie is a is a is an offshoot of a river, that kind of swirls on the side there, but okay, but most of the time, and again, it's just my understanding. I've been whitewater rafting numerous times.

Speaker 1:

You get stuck on the side You're certainly typically in Eddie's more calm place, but apparently this one was not okay. The officer, bruce Lake, was exploring Lavority Falls area with his wife and friends and, though being hailed as a hero, he was initially told that everything was okay. Thankfully, piercing the veil of the social contract, one of Lake's friends said that he, a woman out in the water, appeared to be exhausted and might need help, and that's when the whole party watched her disappear under the foam. After making a short lived attempt to return to shore, she was kind of stuck between these two little waterfalls. Late, recalled, she immediately went underneath and came back up again, right near the rock, and then grabbed the rock and held on. So she was obviously scared.

Speaker 3:

So she was hanging on for dear life.

Speaker 1:

Yes, hanging on for dear life in this rushing Eddie of water. It was probably her first whitewater rafting trip. You never know what's I'm gonna drunk Eddie.

Speaker 7:

Dave could have been.

Speaker 3:

Stop that hey you don't know me. My name's Eddie. You don't know me.

Speaker 1:

Dave Brochia Good name, by the way Dave. Dave, one of Lake's friends who described the events as something out of a bad movie after the woman disappeared a second time but was not reemerging, and that's when the aptly named Luke made his move, jumping into the water and swimming to the rock to help. So, luke, dovid, eddie, he did and saved who and saved the lady, the lady that was been sucked in by drunk Eddie.

Speaker 7:

That took a story.

Speaker 1:

You're asking me questions, man.

Speaker 7:

I got to go back and I got to read all these. Man, you got to remember the names.

Speaker 1:

So, reaching the rock, the water was deeper than he expected, so even even Luke was a little shook up.

Speaker 6:

Don't mention no names.

Speaker 1:

Everything will be easy and simple and the rescue devolved to essentially waving his arms and legs about to see if he could touch her and, as fortune would have it, his hand brushed her arm. Oh good, grabbing her arm and swimming like mad, they approached their friends. I pushed her towards the shore, her friend got her arm and then I lost touch with her. I was getting sucked back in to the exact same spot and only for her to turn around and she reached her arm and grabbed my arm and we got pulled in.

Speaker 4:

together they got rescued each other.

Speaker 6:

Oh shit, when they got near the edge, they saved each other.

Speaker 1:

That's what they did, yes absolutely.

Speaker 3:

It's like Romeo and Juliet. That's Dave. No, no, no, because you know what Romeo died.

Speaker 6:

I'm sorry, yeah, but Julia died after. Well, yeah, but Romeo died first. The point is, they're both dead.

Speaker 8:

And neither of these people died. That's the great story. This is not Romeo and Juliet.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, guys, you're all good, we're having fun man.

Speaker 7:

It's a comedy. What do you want?

Speaker 1:

Dave Brochia is a professional photographer and snapped a photo of the rescue to honor the savior. Describe that after asking the Tural police officer if he could have permission to do so. Their response was like utter disbelief, which was interpreted as a man feeling he did what anyone would have done in the situation. So apparently the police didn't approve of this action, so that this hero did.

Speaker 3:

So Romeo saved Juliet, juliet saved Romeo, and nobody died. Yeah, nobody died, nobody gave a shit.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, that's bad. The cops didn't care. They didn't want to approve of it.

Speaker 1:

We don't we don't approve of your rescue, even though you're both alive. But he rescued the woman, the woman rescued him. They're both alive, all right, great story.

Speaker 3:

So have either of you, gentlemen, been whitewater rafting?

Speaker 6:

Yes. I don't remember no yes, yes, I did All right class four class four class five class three to be honest with you.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what class was it. All right, class five is. I'm going to eff and die.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 6:

You know, what.

Speaker 1:

And the trips we took were always and I'll tell you my whitewater rafting history we went for we used to have this guy's trip went down to West Virginia, to the Gauley River. They put you in right at the dam. Were thousands of pounds of water come flying out of that dam? They shove you right in there and it's class five plus rapids all the way down the river and that's.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to die because it's coming at you. I'm like, how am I going to put this boat with seven other people in it through this godlike water spit, trying to dodge rocks Correct.

Speaker 1:

And of course you're always concerned. I mean just seeing it is one thing. But then when, the when, when the guide says if you go in the water, do not leave your feet on down, don't leave your feet dragging, because you will get stuck and drown, because your foot will get entrapped in that water and a rock, and a rock, yes, because there's so many rocks in there and it's like you think.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to think of that if I'm in in the midst of this white tornado swirling around, but no, it's, it's it is pretty intense and I did go over a couple of times during some of these trips and it's not, it's not fun.

Speaker 3:

I will share a story with you, but not right now. But how did these people, these people, they survived. They're good, yeah, they're alive, they're alive.

Speaker 1:

They survived, they saved each other.

Speaker 3:

They saved each other. And who was the guy that saved the lady and who was the lady that saved?

Speaker 1:

the guy You're killing me? No, I'm not. I'm not reading, I'm asking pointed questions.

Speaker 3:

Bruce Lake was the, was the wrestler, so that's certain to put us Bruce Lake.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Bruce Lake. They made a reference to that in the story that I just read Matt.

Speaker 7:

I think a Batman story right there, like Bruce Wayne Right.

Speaker 6:

All right, don't get in DC. The problem is who cares, who save? Who lives their life?

Speaker 1:

That's all matters right. They're both alive. Yes, so great story. That's our winner of the week.

Speaker 3:

That's how we did this time. I'm drinking old soul.

Speaker 6:

Oh, still also.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. No, I'm still in my old soul. It's, it's, it's, it's good stuff. That's what I'm saying. So, folks, we've been talking about relationships over the past three, four, five episodes, and so you know.

Speaker 6:

I can tell you a long relationship. I've been there for 20 years. I don't know how. I know how are you why, you're married. I've been there for 20 years, all right, so so back to it.

Speaker 3:

You've been married for 20 years.

Speaker 6:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I was married for 22.

Speaker 6:

Okay, and what happened? And?

Speaker 3:

I preface was.

Speaker 6:

Okay, still married or no?

Speaker 3:

No, it was, it was I was married for 22 years and I and I really did enjoy being married 100%.

Speaker 6:

He didn't enjoy.

Speaker 3:

No, I did enjoy what in places are you talking about?

Speaker 6:

I'll tell you one thing. I'll tell you one thing If I came to my house today my wife, she was depressed. I came home after work. I forgot all about whatever's going on today. If he called me today, he said Mike, you know, we have the podcast we're going to do today.

Speaker 2:

I say thank you. He called me about like 10 times.

Speaker 6:

I said I forgot all about it. I'm going to my nephew's store to work for him. I said, mike, you got to be there at 530. I said, thanks God you told me, because I didn't even know how to forgot kids are starting school.

Speaker 3:

You've got things happening.

Speaker 7:

His son is older. He's starting his first year of college.

Speaker 3:

First, year of college.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, when we're at, where is?

Speaker 3:

your son going to college.

Speaker 6:

Macomb.

Speaker 3:

Okay, mcc, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6:

Okay, but the problem is when he won call me today. He said, mike, you got to be ready. I said ready for what he said we have that. I said, oh my God, I forgot all about it.

Speaker 1:

You know what you said.

Speaker 5:

Okay, do you know what you said.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 7:

Are you Exactly what?

Speaker 4:

he said Okay, I drove home.

Speaker 6:

Okay, I was waiting for Yvonne, my wife, so it's a double. You know what I love her to death. She's depressed, she's home, sleeping, okay, doing nothing.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 6:

She's complaining about everything Back pain, back pains, hat pains and everything. I say you know what, honey? Why don't you drive us? Why are we going to call Uber? Drive us? Oh, this, this, and she did. But you know what she did? She felt a lot better, to be honest. She felt a lot better.

Speaker 7:

Okay, thanks to me, the asshole that reminded him about the podcast.

Speaker 3:

Okay, you're not an asshole.

Speaker 7:

I got his plan, I got his wife out of the house to feel better.

Speaker 6:

Because you know what. To be honest, wider golfing yeah, she felt a lot better.

Speaker 7:

Today has been a win-win for me. You know what?

Speaker 3:

But, but this is all about relationships and there's a lot of things that go into relationships that Dave really is going to dive deep into?

Speaker 6:

Well, yeah, we are, I tell you. I tell you what relationship is there's number one thing in a relationship is communication.

Speaker 2:

Ah, I love that. Okay, listen to me, listen to me.

Speaker 6:

If you have communication with another person. It doesn't matter if you're lover, it doesn't matter if you're partner, it doesn't matter if you're friend, it doesn't matter if you're father, your mother, your brother, your sister. You know what. As long as you have communication, you're going to understand what's going on and a lot of people will think Absolutely.

Speaker 3:

And Dave back me up. When we hear relationships, we think about spouse partner, but it goes beyond that no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

Family, it's mom, it's dad, kids, it goes with any relationship.

Speaker 6:

Any kind relationship with anybody.

Speaker 3:

Anybody, that's what we're going to dig into a little bit.

Speaker 7:

Anybody you speak to. You have a relationship.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, I have relationships with my customers and I see them once a week.

Speaker 7:

It's a relationship. Yeah, it's every way possible with the relationship.

Speaker 3:

Which also, you know what that's a spin we had not thought about is with customers as a business owner. No, no, no, that's a relationship we do.

Speaker 1:

We really do. And again, communication, honesty, integrity, trust, mutual respect, mutual respect these all go in that. That's exact type of relationship you want with somebody who's a customer.

Speaker 3:

And welcome to the Motor City. Motor City Hypnotist podcast. Yes absolutely.

Speaker 6:

Thank you very much for having us.

Speaker 7:

Thank you here we go. Don't shut me up.

Speaker 1:

So we ended last episode because we're talking about levels of intimacy. That's what we were talking about last time and we had not quite finished up with that. So I just want to end up on a couple of things and give you some tips, because I wanted to put these in and we just ran out of time last time.

Speaker 3:

We did, and here's the thing I need to. I need to let these guys know, yes, what this is all about, because we touched on, please, please, I like to know that we touched on intimacy, right.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, the brain like a chicken asshole. But we touched on my brain controlled by my wife. Sorry to say that.

Speaker 3:

We touched on intimacy and really and just everything that goes into intimacy. Right, we did, and there were different levels of one through five different levels of intimacy and now we're at the relationship part of intimacy. So it comes down to we're breaking it down to specific topics.

Speaker 1:

Well, yes, well, and I'll just quickly review that. The levels is safe, communication is first.

Speaker 7:

That's when you can talk about small talk. Can I say something about intimacy? Yes, sure, the word is is say it. A lot of people take it the wrong way.

Speaker 1:

Nope, I know exactly what you're saying, because intimacy does not mean sex.

Speaker 7:

No, but a lot of people assume all it means is sex. Yes, absolutely so when you talk about intimacy. I've ran into this problem again.

Speaker 2:

I'm married yes 30 years of marriage yes, With my wife intimacy.

Speaker 7:

When I say intimacy, they automatically assume sex. Yes, yes, but intimacy is a lot deeper than sex.

Speaker 6:

Absolutely yes. It's like relationship, how you start with your boyfriend and girlfriend. That's what it is. Yes.

Speaker 7:

To be honest, in my opinion, I think the sexual part of intimacy is a secondary part.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's part of it, but it's not the main part, right?

Speaker 7:

Absolutely. A lot of people take it as just yes, I agree, it means sex.

Speaker 1:

So we talked about the safe communication. That's when you're first getting to know somebody. You don't share too much because you don't want to be judged. It's just safe communication. Hey, what are you doing, what's going on, what are you watching? That kind of stuff. Then you get into level where you share People's beliefs and opinions and that starts to get a little test the waters a little bit depending on you know, my beliefs might not click with this person's beliefs or opinions and then you share your own beliefs and opinions. That's a little another step where you start to feel, okay, I'm a little little bit more secure in this, where I can share this, that's between, that's between step three and four Roughly yeah, well, no, that was actually three.

Speaker 1:

Okay, because two is you share other people's opinions about it. I was like hey, my buddy thinks uh you know, my buddy thinks old soul whiskey is crap. Just to get a reaction, you're testing for reactions.

Speaker 1:

That's what you're doing, right to kind of gauge where you should be. And then you share your own opinions and beliefs and then you say, oh, I think old souls fantastic, I have like five bottles at home and then only, it's well, I'm just saying you're kind of, you're kind of building that bridge I got you. Then you talk about your feelings and experiences. That's when you started getting the details of your life and experiences and and kind of what you feel. So what's step are we at now? We ended on step five, last episode, which is your, our own needs, emotions and desires. That's when you tell somebody what you really want.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and you're truthful about it, but I want old soul.

Speaker 6:

Yes, but the literally, but the different is sometimes we're gonna Exprive yourself to see what are you feeling. It's not. What are you feeling is not is about what I'm feeling right now. Gonna understand, okay, what I'm feeling. I'm explaining to you, but it's not mean it's gonna be the same. What are you feeling about everything else? Do you got? I mean, it's different what I feel compare to what do you feel no being a therapist for 30, 30 over 30 years, which gives away my age a little bit here 25 is okay

Speaker 3:

26, that's the old soul talking, yeah, but Dave has a lot of experience with couples who have been married for 20 plus years. When they come to him, it's the last.

Speaker 1:

Well, typically well, typically, when I see couples in my office, it's, it's and I hate to say it a majority times things are might already be passed the salvageable point, unfortunately, because because they resist and resist and resist, they finally give in and one person is usually out the door at that point, right, which is a shame, because if you did it sooner you could have made now, not always. I'm not saying this is the resolution for everything. I'm just saying that that if you really wanted it to work, you should work on it earlier, not later, right?

Speaker 3:

But.

Speaker 7:

but the resolution for you is to make both parties happy, so can you yes, absolutely here for yes, so you said to work on it earlier rather than later. How about if there's resistance? How do you work on it?

Speaker 1:

Well see, that's the problem. If there's resistance and and here's in, I'll be blunt on this if there's resistance early, that's a red flag, because you already know this person's not willing to work.

Speaker 1:

So if you're six months into a relationship and your partner doesn't want to work on things, that boom, that there's alarm should go off in your head. Now, if you're 15 years into it and somebody is resistant, then Unfortunately you've missed some steps along the way. There's been a separation, yes, there's been a separation over time that hasn't been addressed. I'm not saying that can't be reunited, but it's a lot more difficult Once that chasm has been created.

Speaker 7:

Let's start to pass in the.

Speaker 3:

So, dave, but you're talking to two gentlemen that are entrepreneurs, and yeah they're married in 22 years.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no 20 years 20 years 20 years, 20 years, 27 years I was.

Speaker 3:

God bless you yeah.

Speaker 1:

God bless you, god bless my wife.

Speaker 6:

Putting up with me. God bless you guys all. Great Odin's Raven. But it comes to relationships.

Speaker 3:

It's so important that that, that, that communication stays open. Well, no, and that's the big thing.

Speaker 1:

When a relationship digress is because you stop talking to one another and I don't mean like hey, what are we doing for dinner? Where do you want to go to eat? Well, you know what? What are you're where you going out? I mean like, like, like. We talked to intimacy, not sexual, but intimate conversation.

Speaker 7:

I have all during your times and days and emotions.

Speaker 1:

Yes sometimes it is a mess.

Speaker 3:

It can get a mess because the, the communication, the relationship, it's not. It's not coming together like you, every so, once in a while, you're on a wavelength right.

Speaker 6:

And always in a wave, in a big wave, but then that was a huge wave, very, very huge wave.

Speaker 7:

He's pulling on the surfboard right now.

Speaker 1:

I'm like here right now and you don't want to be with this person.

Speaker 8:

No, you've had your limit today. You drink water.

Speaker 1:

Somebody like that.

Speaker 9:

They're just gonna boss you around and say but wait wait, how are you gonna wipe a table with this little? It's not even wet.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to be with this person.

Speaker 3:

But, but. The problem is when it comes to relationships in the communication that's what we're talking about is you have to be 100% honest the entire time?

Speaker 1:

Well see, but that's difficult for people.

Speaker 1:

I will say because when you're, when you're totally honest, you have a fear of rejection. That's the human nature. Nobody wants to be rejected, nobody wants to be like, oh what, I don't like that or no, I don't agree with that, right, and that's the issue with relationships. And I believe, and honestly, and this is what's my opinion of 30 years of clinical experience, I Don't think anyone is ever 100% transparent. No, I don't think anyone has ever. Anyone has ever 100% open. 30 years, yeah, 32 years, 30 years, 30 years don't don't age me, man F you.

Speaker 6:

But, but, gentlemen, you're talking to no, don't shut me up.

Speaker 3:

You're talking to a gentleman that's, that has sat down with multiple couples over the years, and I want us to all be open. I had a terrible time trying to communicate with my ex-wife? Yeah, all right, and the fact is I had to Communicate the way I felt I need to get my point across. Okay, and I wasn't good at it, I accept I didn't take this as too easy.

Speaker 1:

It was like you, no, no, I barely did because it was challenge Dec색 well, the issue of bringing my experience back to you actually Ever Companion.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, it's the right letter for还.

Speaker 3:

That would be difficult. Well, let me ask this how? But what was his over here? But when talk to somebody, listen to them, understand where they're coming from and then come back with an appropriate response. Or to communicate better, to understand where to, to get your opinion out as to where you're coming from.

Speaker 1:

Here's the thing in a relationship, whether it's a marriage relationship, a sibling, a friend, a family member, you're never going to agree on everything. That's just a fact.

Speaker 2:

And if you expect that, you're going to be disappointed.

Speaker 1:

That's not how it works, so no so I got a question.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, for you, let me listen for you. Communication. You said it went wrong. Do you think it was a subject of communication where there was already animosity, where you tried to communicate subjects? Like what you were talking about.

Speaker 1:

She was a subject of what.

Speaker 3:

I was talking about, yes.

Speaker 7:

She was talking about. See, that's, that's what I noticed is a big problem. There's a difference in communication and conversation about the same subject. Right, because the point of view is different. What this person thinks this person thinks is right, this person where one person is a different part.

Speaker 3:

It isn't a different part of their life. Is it different parts, you know?

Speaker 7:

I love my wife to death. My wife, she doesn't drink, not a drop by alcohol.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, and you are. You own a liquor store. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 7:

I have a bourbon collection that spans over 500 bottles.

Speaker 6:

Nice, he's lying about 800 bottles About 800 bottles. So he lost count when he got to 300.

Speaker 7:

So I stopped counting when I got married, so so what's your point is taken you know. So like my, like I like my wife. Example is that she's like you know. My family comes over. They see all this liquor. They think you're an alcoholic.

Speaker 2:

It looks like you're an alcoholic.

Speaker 7:

Right you drink every day but you don't look like an alcoholic.

Speaker 3:

So my problem is he's not.

Speaker 7:

This is a hobby for me, this is my business, boy you know that escalated quickly.

Speaker 9:

You know I mean that really got out of hand fast.

Speaker 7:

So the communication point is like I'll tell my wife hey, I'm not an alcoholic. If I was alcoholic, I can't have a collection.

Speaker 3:

I can't work. No, the bottles would be empty. They'd be empty. I wouldn't work every day.

Speaker 7:

I wouldn't, I wouldn't put my best foot, but her perception of what she sees right, she assumes, is that well, but but I would suspect and correct me if I'm wrong that she's okay with it, otherwise she wouldn't be there. Well, she's pushes against it. So maybe she's there for love of me to accept it, but then again, maybe she's just saying it to get me to.

Speaker 1:

Well, well, let me. Let me give you this example, and this is a very minor one. So here to what you're saying in mind.

Speaker 7:

I feel like she's trying to say it just so I can say, okay, I'll stop drinking, just so she gets her way, yeah, but even you don't drink it's not really see this is you don't drink a lot every single day.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, there's something in life If you have one drink a day is nothing Right, even if you have two drinks a day, because you know why? Well, I have one or two a day, and there's days I don't have nothing Right.

Speaker 1:

But then you also have to. You also have to look at where's that cut. Excuse me, where's that coming from? Did this other person who's saying that come from an alcoholic background where they had a?

Speaker 2:

no use of father or no, or?

Speaker 4:

zero or somebody who's okay, there's so much, so again there's some fear there.

Speaker 1:

There's some fear that you that you could be an alcoholic and I think or or or even less, maybe less impactful that it's perception that I can become one I well, or the perception of other people. I don't want other people to think that of you. Yeah, but so in a way it's protected, but in another way it is also unreasonable in a way just because you're feel so is judgmental.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, you really know who I am.

Speaker 3:

Right, because other people think this right. Because you're in the industry, that does not mean you are the industry.

Speaker 6:

Exactly when you have when you have 300, 400, 500 bottles. You're not an alcoholic. No, because you know why you're an alcoholic. They have five bottles. They go in the same day, right? You know what I?

Speaker 7:

mean.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 7:

Okay, the difference is an alcoholic can't have by bottles.

Speaker 1:

We've been doing this for 30 years.

Speaker 8:

Yes.

Speaker 7:

And I've seen customers and how.

Speaker 1:

Oh absolutely so an alcoholic.

Speaker 7:

An alcoholic has to buy the smallest size possible to control himself Right, and what they do is they buy that smaller size multiple times a day, absolutely. Because, if they buy that larger size, they're going to come back and buy that larger size multiple times a day, just like they buy that smaller size, right.

Speaker 3:

And next thing, you know they're in dire straits and they can't afford anything and they're putting their family in. You know they're putting everything in jeopardy, right, everything. But what? What you guys do as owners and you have your collections, and I appreciate collections. You have a collection. That means you, and when you have customers that will come in and they'll say, can I try this? You know what, if you like that, what they're going to try, you're like I'll taste it with you. That's where your two drinks come in.

Speaker 6:

That's what it is. That's what it is. That's the only way.

Speaker 3:

But then to go back to the communication to your spouses, your wives like listen, I am an owner, I have to take care of customers. This is what I do, but you're not and I know who alcoholics are. I've seen the behavior, Dave. You've seen the behavior.

Speaker 1:

I have.

Speaker 3:

And when? When it comes to alcoholics, they are going through a bottle a day. No, no, no.

Speaker 1:

And I'll say not necessarily, I have to say I've seen it.

Speaker 6:

They're going through a half pint a day.

Speaker 1:

Here's the thing. I'm a novice, I don't know.

Speaker 7:

They're going through what they need to go.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and that's, and that's my thing. There is no limit. There is no limit and I will agree on that. I've seen it a lot.

Speaker 7:

If a person has to wake up with, like some people have to wake up the morning, you have a coffee. So if a person has to wake up in the morning and have a shot. He has that shot in the morning. I might not drink all day, but he has to have that shot.

Speaker 1:

Well, here's the thing, and in my definition again, it's probably not the typical stereotypical definition it's somebody who can't say no to it, yes, and that is the biggest thing. Who can't that? Yeah, and they can't stop doing it.

Speaker 7:

But the point of the subject that I brought up about this was right. It's, you think, maybe this subject matter of the communication because there might have been animosity behind it from the other party.

Speaker 1:

Well, it didn't make it worse, but that's the big thing when you can communicate, there's some underlying issue, there's some underlying conflict, there's some underlying animosity that prevents that communication from happening. And that could have developed over a year. It could have developed over 20.

Speaker 7:

Like there's some things I want to communicate with my wife. I can't because when I bring them up she flares.

Speaker 3:

Right, you know, and it's that's where the communication comes in, that's where no, that's where the building of a relationship after 13 years, 20 years something and 13 years, the communication will be gone, okay, how?

Speaker 6:

many understand that that's what it is. And 13 years I've been there. For 20 years he say if it's not there, it'll be okay, but that was 13 years.

Speaker 3:

Now you're 20 years, so yeah but communication is gone.

Speaker 6:

The only thing is orders. You know what I have to do this, you have to do this Anybody. That's what he have and that's what it is. There's love, there's cares Okay there's passion. There's everything in there, but it's not what are you going to think about? You know what? That's what I need. I have to get it today.

Speaker 7:

No, I think what it becomes as the year is going on is more asking to do things and less.

Speaker 1:

Well, it goes back to expectations. What do I expect you to do compared to what you're?

Speaker 3:

willing to do, and this is where your experience comes in, dave.

Speaker 1:

I'm not gonna say the years again, because I don't wanna age 30 years. I'm 57 years old, shut up Matt.

Speaker 6:

God bless you, but you look 37, not 57. I'm very important.

Speaker 4:

I have many leatherbound books and my apartment Smells of rich mahogany.

Speaker 3:

Oh.

Speaker 4:

Oh.

Speaker 3:

But it all comes down to the intimacy and how you communicate with your partner, right?

Speaker 1:

Here's the thing Communication breaks down when there's feelings of resentment, feelings of anger, feelings of frustration, whatever those things are, and if you don't talk about those things, that separation's only gonna increase over time and that could increase. I mean, honestly, I've seen it and, matt, you may relate to this, I'm not pointing you out or anything but over time there's a divergence and it just gets wider and wider and wider until eventually there's no salvaging it 100%.

Speaker 7:

You just can't do it, it breaks 100% breaks. Yes, no, it just has some of the things.

Speaker 6:

Okay, how about there is nothing like that out there? You don't have no hate, you don't have no passion with them, or you don't have nothing around you mean like they're your roommate?

Speaker 3:

almost.

Speaker 6:

It's like my wife, but I don't have nothing in there. There's no feelings, there is no courage, there is nothing in there. Okay, there's no problems.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I would say so this could be anyone. Then.

Speaker 6:

Okay, you're right, it could be anyone, it could be a friend. But but yes, what happened? What happened? What happened what? Happened. He's talking about marriage, right.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, not necessarily. We're talking about intimacy in any relationship.

Speaker 3:

Your spouse, your friend, your parent, your brother, your sister. It could be fine. Okay, I'm not of that.

Speaker 6:

Okay, I'll tell you about me. Yeah, I don't care about nothing. You know what nothing is, including yourself? I don't Not even my clue myself. I really don't, because you know why. I'll live for today. I'm gonna face the future. I don't care about what happened yesterday. That's what it is.

Speaker 1:

So let me ask this question. Okay, if you knew you were gonna die tomorrow, that wouldn't affect you in any way.

Speaker 6:

I really Don't.

Speaker 3:

Really.

Speaker 7:

Have you done it? Do you want my honest opinion?

Speaker 3:

Yes, Eva, yeah.

Speaker 7:

I face death.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, yes, every day we're together.

Speaker 7:

No, no, no no, no, I spent 45 days in the hospital.

Speaker 6:

Oh, that's different, that's different.

Speaker 3:

Was it.

Speaker 6:

COVID related. No, no, nothing to do with that.

Speaker 7:

So right now in my life, what I've realized is that I would and this is I don't fear death now anymore. I don't. I fear living an unhappy life.

Speaker 3:

Yes, okay, see the mentality of the communication the intimacy with your partner, your spouse, your friend, your family member. It takes a lot to walk in and be like I want to live every day like it's my last.

Speaker 7:

But it doesn't take a lot. It doesn't. It doesn't Because the truth is, you don't know.

Speaker 1:

It comes down to perspective because, like you said, when you've had something like that in an experience, it changes your perspective on what you appreciate more. You appreciate things, you appreciate relationships.

Speaker 7:

I've been in a couple of bad car accidents. I had a car somersault on me five times Ooh. I should have never walked out of it Again. I got sick for 45 days. I should have never walked out of it.

Speaker 3:

Was it your liver, or was it? I'm kidding, I don't have everything, Everything shut down my every organ in my body shut down.

Speaker 6:

Everything shut down.

Speaker 7:

How long ago was this? 2014. I had 27 plasma transfusions.

Speaker 1:

Holy, yeah, was it an infection or was it?

Speaker 7:

It was a blood disorder.

Speaker 1:

Ah, okay, they don't know how to get that thing.

Speaker 7:

They don't know what happened.

Speaker 1:

My wife had a good friend I'm talking years back. We were dating at the time and her good friend passed away from a blood infection. They couldn't do anything to get it right.

Speaker 7:

It's called HUS. I had a combination of two. It was called HUS as the main, and then I had an underlying TTP. I know what it was. It was my blood cells were basically killing each other because they thought my red blood cells thought my. What blood cells were.

Speaker 1:

They were attacking each other. They were attacking each other.

Speaker 7:

So your plasma is like a golden color, right, mine was like a Coca-Cola syrup, yeah yeah, so at that time so you faced death I faced a lot. I had seizures that I didn't know I was having in the hospital they kept information away from me out of thinking that I was fear.

Speaker 6:

But that's a good thing. That's a good thing they kept that. That was the worst thing they kept from me. No, that was a good thing because you know why.

Speaker 1:

What are you gonna be? Fears of death. It depends on the person. Again, that depends on the individual.

Speaker 7:

Look, I was in the hospital. I was expecting what was gonna happen. If I know he's not look, let me explain to you.

Speaker 6:

I was there.

Speaker 7:

You were there the whole time. You were there, but you know what? And it got to a point where I was planning my own funeral. Yeah, and I got cussed out for it, right and. But who cussed you out? The guy I was planning the funeral with, because he was my friend. All right, yeah, not your wife. No, she didn't even know about it.

Speaker 2:

I just was trying to make it life on easy and so on her.

Speaker 7:

I was trying to make sure that she had nothing to worry about.

Speaker 3:

So, on the intimacy side, the communication side, you were not sharing this information with your bride. She knew because she was in the room, okay, so you were sure, okay, she was in the room, but you didn't know nothing like that though.

Speaker 7:

Look, I love my wife.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 7:

I know she can't handle those kind of moments. You don't know that.

Speaker 6:

No, I didn't know that, because I just lived through.

Speaker 7:

You know God bless their souls to death and her family Right. She can't handle it Right. So if God forbid I was to pass away, I can't picture her going into the funeral home and buying a plot and setting up my funeral. So I took it upon myself whether I died that time I was at the hospital or 50 years from now. I talked to my friend who owns a funeral home and I said I want to buy some plots and I want to set it up.

Speaker 7:

If it happens to this week, it happens. It happens 50 years from now. Do those plots?

Speaker 3:

still exist today.

Speaker 7:

I didn't buy them. You did not buy them. My friend did not let me.

Speaker 1:

But here's the important question you didn't share or you didn't discuss it with your wife because, again, you're trying to protect her. So is that a negative or a positive? In an intimate relationship, it could be a negative.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, it depends how it was perceived by the other party. I don't agree on that.

Speaker 6:

No, no, it can be a positive.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, it depends on how the other party perceives it. Well, no, no that's the key.

Speaker 1:

It depends on how the other party perceives it, because I know that a lot of times. I mean, for example, you know I've been married 27 years. I said that earlier.

Speaker 2:

God bless you.

Speaker 1:

But early and you guys probably know this early in a marriage or a relationship. I mean, and honestly, I was later on in life before I met my wife. I was like 28, 27 when I met her, so I had some good times before that.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I feel sorry about her.

Speaker 1:

But early in our relationship there were some struggles. Financially it was. Sometimes. It was tough. It was a struggle, and so do I share with her about that. Okay, we're really in debt but I don't know how we're gonna pay it. Or do you keep it from her so she doesn't worry about it?

Speaker 7:

But then again, that's a different kind of situation.

Speaker 1:

Well, no, that is, it's different.

Speaker 7:

So in debt right now, if I have to tell my wife, hey, we can't afford to pay your car payment, I'm sorry we got a downsize Right, it's gonna happen Right and in the situation I was in, I've talked to my friend a lot. He's very Nick, but like my little brother you know, I've heard the stories of families coming in and trying to do these, planning after the fact.

Speaker 1:

Right the nightmares.

Speaker 7:

The intention was nothing for me. Yeah, it didn't help anybody else but my wife. Yeah, right, so there was no bad intention.

Speaker 7:

Right, just to make it so that every process of it after would be easier on her life. Yeah, you know, now, if I'm in debt, now I'm an entrepreneur, I invest in businesses. Right, you know I want to buy new businesses. Now, if I go invest in businesses and then keep my wife out of it, she's got the best. She got all the right in the world to get this off of me, because I'm taking a lot of money from our family to gamble on a business.

Speaker 3:

But back to the communication. Do you have to share that with her? The business part yeah, yeah, because if it's going to put your family into debt, I'm now do?

Speaker 6:

I want to know the truth. I'm very sorry to say that.

Speaker 7:

Now the truth hold on. Do I want my wife to know that I'm expecting to die.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 7:

I don't want to put her in a more hearty no. Like I thought about this a million times. Yeah, I thought about God forbid if I ever go to the hospital and have cancer.

Speaker 1:

Here's the big thing. There's no right or wrong answer here. It depends on the person, it depends on the other person who's involved. Right, and that's the whole thing that I want to emphasize. There's no right or wrong here.

Speaker 6:

It's what's best for the situation, but sometime when you're going to have somebody involved in your own business mean they got to think, they got to act, they got to perform and everything else To me in my life. Okay, I'm different. Okay, my wife, she don't know nothing. What I have, it's not me that's bad or is wrong, but I tell you one thing at least you don't have the headache of what I'm doing Mm-hmm, clean up your desk, you're gone.

Speaker 1:

I don't want her.

Speaker 6:

I don't want her to have the stress.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 8:

Does not mean.

Speaker 6:

I have stress no, I don't, because really I don't care about nothing, I don't have to have the patience Anything. You know what, if this gonna happen or is not?

Speaker 1:

Well, let me say something as a therapist I'm gonna approach it yeah yeah, I'm gonna approach it Just like what a client sitting with me in my office. Yes, please do All right, please do Not responsible for other people's feelings. Okay, you're not. I feel I'm not, I'm really not. If they are angry, if they're sad, if they're upset, if they're, whatever it is, you can't, you are not in Charge of their feelings.

Speaker 6:

I cannot prevent best for you. I cannot prevent what they gonna have, exactly okay, yep. I don't yep, because you know what. I do my best to make it good for everybody around me. Mm-hmm is not somebody I don't know, no right. But if that time comes, if they're not feeling good they're even my hope I'm there. Yeah, they don't know, I hope, or they're not gonna ask me. I cannot do nothing about them.

Speaker 7:

I need your help finishing this bottle.

Speaker 6:

That's the easiest thing I can have here's my question.

Speaker 3:

That's a lot of help.

Speaker 1:

Where did the old soul go?

Speaker 6:

August took it.

Speaker 1:

Somebody stole it because I looked for it. I was there on the table.

Speaker 6:

There's a stolen bottle around.

Speaker 3:

I'm waiting for it Okay.

Speaker 7:

I'll get. You're hurting my feelings.

Speaker 1:

August. The fuck are you doing?

Speaker 3:

Where's that old soul? Where's?

Speaker 1:

the old soul man. It's done.

Speaker 3:

What is done. This is what the this is one of the things about the Motor City hypnotist podcast is that it brings out Feelings. Now I want to say frustration, but it just brings out opinions.

Speaker 4:

You know what it's quite fun, sting's the nostrils.

Speaker 3:

It's tough to talk about. But that's why we do this podcast, because we talk about things that are very difficult to talk about, and you're you're speaking of how you feel in your relationship.

Speaker 6:

Okay, can I tell you? Can I tell you what I feel you?

Speaker 3:

have not been, absolutely you have not been, you've not been holding back at all.

Speaker 6:

I never do talking. Okay, I'll tell you one thing, but today key. No, it's a case to communicate what you feel I'll tell you one thing today. Yes, today, yes, I went home after almost about Nine hours of working, right, okay? Nine hours, happy day, that's not, that's a quarter day, nothing. My wife she wasn't In a couch laying down I'm depressed, I'm this, I'm there, I'm this and that, and I got a happy, very happy life. So I don't care about nothing.

Speaker 3:

So my okay, let me ask you this question. Yes, if your wife was to listen back to this podcast, how would she feel about With her?

Speaker 6:

I really, I really really honest to God. Truth, I don't care.

Speaker 5:

Texted me my Instagram.

Speaker 7:

See Instagram me actually about all the posts about how easy your liquor store is. I can't wait for the right Back home.

Speaker 5:

Tell my husband the shut his trap, forget about over. Sorry for the random voices. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6:

Your podcast today. We're home. What if I came so we can call over? I said please don't my wife laying a couch, she's not doing nothing. Please, she can take us. And we asked. Her said yes, I just want to get out of the bed.

Speaker 5:

Yes, Okay, I love the KELDI. In GK, everything ends with a kink.

Speaker 4:

That's what it is. I love it. I love it.

Speaker 5:

It's like that's how I know who my, my people are.

Speaker 6:

Guys, you know what?

Speaker 5:

there's one thing about life you gotta eat them up with it. You're being a little bit. We gotta be moving. That's it. So for learning tonight, and be liquor should have their own podcast here every week like you're, should have a pot every week. We try one, one barrel pick, talk about what you got, boom Bang. You sponsor the Motor City the motor city hypnotist. No, they sponsor you.

Speaker 1:

This works. You know this works.

Speaker 6:

Yes, and then they get on.

Speaker 5:

They get on during your show and and sample one barrel pick instead of 12.

Speaker 1:

Which changes the route? No one. I can't drive 10 15 minutes.

Speaker 7:

I can't think I drive this far down with one bottle. No, that's not right, I'll get we can bring it to you, hey one.

Speaker 5:

By would be a shame if I come down here with one. I'm not even the salesman for this part of this studio, but I'm selling it right now.

Speaker 7:

We're getting zero commission, besides your old soul.

Speaker 5:

It's a joke from another podcast.

Speaker 6:

Yes.

Speaker 5:

Honestly, honestly, just the access to this is why I do this. I don't I don't get anybody podcasting, I just meet people and I yeah right.

Speaker 6:

You know what?

Speaker 5:

I build relationships.

Speaker 6:

This is what we do friends.

Speaker 5:

That's what it's all about.

Speaker 8:

And you know you know, what you.

Speaker 5:

Let me jump in on your pockets.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, by the way, the voice you're hearing is August. He is a part of the man cave happy hour podcast and the city was on right before us. And for the motor city hip-notes podcast, because it's so great. That's why they're here.

Speaker 5:

Where's this old soul going?

Speaker 3:

that goes to me, the other voice.

Speaker 5:

You're here on the regular voice, mr Matt Fox.

Speaker 3:

All right so August and I have gone back many, many years, many. It goes back to you have an intimate relationship.

Speaker 1:

I do.

Speaker 6:

August what kind, what kind of relationship? Now we talking relationships.

Speaker 5:

Different, but they can be intimate.

Speaker 3:

We have an intimacy through text messages. There's a lot of relationships that are happening here wait, wait, wait, go on wait.

Speaker 5:

You and your drops. He said sexy time. I know I can see the board.

Speaker 3:

There. There are so many things that happened on the motor city, hypnotist at man cave happy hour that mesh Because we talk about relationships my relationship with Dave, with August, with Jamie, with the two of you guys To with Mike, with you tonight, thank you, and I have had thank you.

Speaker 7:

Thank you Give me the direction.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there, there are so much there. There's so much that has to go into communication, where we want to be able to support one another. Right, I've known Jamie since I was 19. All right, I was a young punk DJ.

Speaker 5:

Take the DJ thing out. Because you're a 19, you're always like who played music. I.

Speaker 3:

Hit a play button because Jamie told me what the fucking play? But there's so much communication that goes into your relationship Doesn't have to be intimate, it doesn't have to be sexual, doesn't have to any of that is hundred percent right now how you communicate with that, with another person.

Speaker 6:

Okay, can I tell you guys why do you keep it up to me? Can I tell you guys one thing? No, my father always said One hand never clap.

Speaker 4:

You need two hands to clap.

Speaker 5:

One hand make you happy though.

Speaker 7:

I've never clapped hands with another person.

Speaker 2:

That's the 12 bottles of single barrel stuff all around us talking.

Speaker 7:

My care father didn't drink bourbon.

Speaker 5:

With the relationship, I'm gonna back off my, my, my dear friends podcast I'm gonna back off before I do that more often.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, what happened. It's crazy. This is what you get when you follow up the Motor City Hypnotist podcast right after the man cave happy hour podcast, and there are 11 bottles on the table. That's what's what happens. So that and our special guests Ivan and Mike, which was just fantastic and not to take away from the Motor City.

Speaker 3:

He says, no, not at all. But this is.

Speaker 1:

See, I I know I want to just throw this out there we're talking about intimacy, and that really is I. That is important, but it is important to have fun. It's important to just Fun is part of it, oh. Enjoy people around you. That is the big thing there are six.

Speaker 3:

There are six gentlemen in this room, yes and none. Neither one of us have a bigger dick.

Speaker 1:

Nobody has their pants off.

Speaker 7:

I just say it's just like.

Speaker 3:

The communication, the intimacy that we have together, regardless if there's liquor on the table or what have you. We would be this way without it, because we care about one another.

Speaker 1:

What if we had coffee?

Speaker 4:

coffee makes me a might nervous when I drank it.

Speaker 6:

Oh, you know we do. We will if we have coffee, but it's not when you have liquor, because you know You're gonna forget everything else.

Speaker 3:

You're married, you're married, you're married. Oh, I'm married, my wife is not married. I said you're married, you're married, yeah, you think I'm happy.

Speaker 5:

Yes, you are very Happy.

Speaker 1:

August sometimes no, sometimes you are, why no?

Speaker 5:

why no? I look at the, the pressure on me as the oldest in the family, and the youngest has two kids to carry on. Here's a thing I have the name. Here's the worst part. I have the name August, sketch like that. It's my father's name. My brother had two girls. My sister had two boys.

Speaker 1:

Different last names, different name, that the name hasn't carried on so you feel need to carry on a name, do you feel?

Speaker 5:

pressure dude. The world needs another August sketch like Unfortunately I have you feel like pressure is organism.

Speaker 7:

So can I ask you a question? That's a pressure. You say you're not happy, right?

Speaker 5:

I am not unhappy, but I'm not happy whoa boy. That escalated quickly. I'm gonna book you. I actually just told Jamie I got a book, dave.

Speaker 1:

I got a book day for a minute Book me.

Speaker 5:

I got a book.

Speaker 1:

I'm there you go.

Speaker 5:

I got some money on my that health card, that thing, to give you your flex card. Yeah, my flex card. I got some money. Oh, there you go and we're not gonna do it right now.

Speaker 1:

I can do telehealth, just just check.

Speaker 5:

No, I'm okay with talking to you in person. Okay, I trust you. Perfect, yeah, I'll just.

Speaker 3:

August.

Speaker 5:

I know where you're at because there was a look, I'm trying to make him some money. I'm he's actually booking an account right now. He's actually going to make some money off of this podcast.

Speaker 4:

Listen, I'm very important. Many leatherbound books and my apartment Smell of rich mahogany.

Speaker 3:

The fact is, my father carried on the fox name with myself and I was at that point where I had to carry on the fox name. However, he remarried and had two boys.

Speaker 5:

I've never heard the word Fox before in my life. Have you? How many times you heard gitch lag in?

Speaker 3:

your life Not comparable, but I felt like I had to carry every whole different castle brother. It's, but I have felt like I had to carry on that fox name and when my my oldest.

Speaker 5:

Brother David at, bro, you're gonna get Fox Open up the geographic channel Fox. How many times does PBS say gitch lag, just give me.

Speaker 7:

Old soul, shut the fuck up he wants to hear gitch lag table for two.

Speaker 5:

I'm back enough ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry for Hijacking.

Speaker 1:

Here. Oh, good for you.

Speaker 3:

Love you I.

Speaker 7:

He's not forgetting that last name. No nice shorts, asshole what what wait?

Speaker 1:

what's his name again?

Speaker 5:

He bought the same ones on Amazon and his balls are spitching cuz he, you know, war jeans tonight. Yeah, take your headphones off, Mike.

Speaker 1:

There's no reason to be Mike's gone, that's it.

Speaker 9:

That escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast.

Speaker 1:

Oh, fantastic folks.

Speaker 3:

Hey Dave. Yes, welcome to the main cave. Oh, this is fantastic.

Speaker 1:

We're just a continuation. We're we're in a symbiotic relationship with the man. Gave happy hour right now. Because we've had a great time. We've been talking about relationships. We can all have fun together. People I just met feel like friends.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is it, man, this is great. This is called communication, absolutely. This is called intimacy. Yes what we're gonna talk about tonight.

Speaker 7:

Yes, intimacy.

Speaker 3:

I'm not trying to have sex with.

Speaker 7:

Well, not yet.

Speaker 1:

Let's pull up more that old soul that could happen there for you about, oh?

Speaker 4:

I don't think my wife would like that?

Speaker 1:

Well, that's where communication would come in hey.

Speaker 7:

Oh my goodness, so I'm talking my whole bottle to my wife.

Speaker 3:

You are gonna post this right absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I mean you guys posted, I just record it.

Speaker 3:

I know I have no control of the guess this gets posted or not, and this was supposed to be a 30 minute episode, right?

Speaker 1:

No, oh well, it was supposed to be 30 minute, but I just thought we're doing our, we're good and 30 minutes and no, we're what we start.

Speaker 3:

Oh shit, we're almost there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're almost to an hour, oh sweet.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so it's.

Speaker 1:

This is one episode. So, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna update the. I'm gonna update the episode title to a chaos with the man gave happy hour chaos, intimacy chaos.

Speaker 3:

So we we've talked about a lot tonight all mics back, sorry guys.

Speaker 7:

No, you had. You had to use the. You got intimate with the bathroom To become intimate when nature pages.

Speaker 3:

You have to answer that call yes, All right, okay you know, it's all about ball bearings.

Speaker 9:

Oh, come on, guys, it's so simple. Maybe you need a refresher course. Hey, it's all ball bearings nowadays.

Speaker 6:

Well, you're talking about relationship. Well, we're talking about intimacy and relationship, yeah but there's one thing I learned in my life and I've been married for 20 years yes, communication is number one. Yeah, absolutely, I agree because you know what, with no communication, you're not gonna have nothing. No, that's why I learned in a 20 years of marriage and we've been together for 23 years yeah, I think, I think that's wrong. Why what?

Speaker 7:

communication yes, but I think Understanding is more important than you're understanding.

Speaker 6:

Even that's part of life.

Speaker 7:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, because you can communicate, but if the other person has an understanding what you're communicating, it's a whole different situation. This is what I'm talking about pessimism, animosity towards situations.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but right. So I'm gonna go back to and I'm sorry Again. I wasn't a marriage for 22 years and unfortunately my ex-wife was on the couch, Depressed, and just did not like where she was at in life.

Speaker 7:

All right.

Speaker 6:

She's my wife. She's been a for it was the same thing today.

Speaker 7:

Did she hold it against you for it?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely and that's the problem.

Speaker 7:

That's the problem.

Speaker 1:

You're blaming somebody else for your issue.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely it took a lot for me to want to understand why she was like that. How could I be there as a husband to one, be the person that she needed me to be and, secondly, to communicate Properly. So she knew that I wanted to be the husband that she wanted me to be.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it was very years, but it was very difficult. Here's the problem though You're, you're talking about being the person she wants you to be, but what if that's not the person you are?

Speaker 3:

and it was.

Speaker 6:

I can't be somebody, yes, and they want you to be and it wasn't.

Speaker 7:

How about if you have to be somebody, they want you to be?

Speaker 1:

You can't one, because because if you're not, that person, you're thinking it.

Speaker 7:

Does that mean just wearing a mask?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, no, you know when I'm asked you just changing your everything, life, you changing whatever you are, you change it whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1:

And if you did that, if you put that mask on, you're not gonna be happy.

Speaker 3:

No, because you're not the person you are and, unfortunately, that's why me personally I had to pull the proverbial trigger to say this is the end stop. This is the line where I have to draw to want, because I wanted to be somebody. I wanted to be me. I didn't want to be that person to put a mask on and be like. I Will bend to every will and need that you, that you have, that you need me to be. I had to be me and I wanted that person to deal with what they were going through and for their own good.

Speaker 1:

And let me ask you this, man I don't want to get personal. No, you're good. Do you feel like you're in a better place now?

Speaker 3:

Did you were then 100% because I've been a relationship that I know that I can be who I want to be. Yep, yep. It took absolutely. It took a very strong stick for make me to, to put me to in that place and I had to carry it and the motor city.

Speaker 1:

I'm not this podcast F you.

Speaker 3:

Over the past 200 and some episodes that we, you and I have been together. Yes, I have learned a lot and I know who I am my ex could not accept that and I wanted to be.

Speaker 1:

You think about it if your partner cannot accept who you are now, unless you're a serial killer. That's different.

Speaker 6:

That's a story, but yeah but.

Speaker 1:

But if you're, if you're, if your partner cannot accept who you are, that's a problem that that's not gonna last. This is you can fake it for a while, but eventually it's gonna crumble apart, but it came down to this is who.

Speaker 3:

This is the path I'm going, or going down. And if you cannot be a part of that and accept who I am regardless of how many jobs, because banker, dj, podcaster this person had a whole other Perception as to what their life was. And if you can't be a part of that or accept what where that's going down, at least Appreciate what that is. That's where the communication, the intimacy lies, because you can't Just tell somebody what your opinions are and expect them to accept it. You have to lead them down that path and understand where they're coming from at the same freaking time, because they're in a different state in their lives and you have to understand where their lives are leading. And if you can't, if you're not educated enough to Bring that in, tell them yeah, but there's nothing about education to tell your wife.

Speaker 6:

You know what? What do you feel? I think it's not.

Speaker 4:

It's not where the problem lies.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry to interrupt you. No, you're good.

Speaker 7:

I think a lot of times in marriage and in love and in relationships, you have expectations.

Speaker 3:

Yes, there's expectations from both.

Speaker 7:

Yeah there's expectations of life. Yes, you live life with expectations for yourself, but you cannot live life with expectations for other people right.

Speaker 3:

You can't live up to their expectations.

Speaker 7:

You're right, exactly the problem is in a marriage, I think people fall in love with each other. Well, love is true yeah, it was real but sometimes they have expectations beyond that love. Yes, and those expectations are not beyond the persons who you're in love with to do, because we can do whatever the fuck we want, right this?

Speaker 8:

is life.

Speaker 7:

As people, you have control over every aspect of your life, and don't tell me you don't. Yeah, no, you do. So I think sometimes the love leads to expectations of what these people expect in marriage Well, and what they expect this person to do for them and I think it becomes overbearing.

Speaker 1:

And the great example of that is people who marry thinking they'll change the other person. This is the problem. Eventually become what they want.

Speaker 6:

This is the problem. That will never happen.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, exactly, if they can change you go into a love expecting to make that person a better person, you never really love that person for who they are yes exactly because you're already trying to change the person you love and thank you for following me down that rabbit hole because it's a difficult.

Speaker 3:

You know it's very difficult to try to understand the other person at the same time.

Speaker 6:

You will never understand the other person, but you can try.

Speaker 7:

You can try, but you don't you know how you understand that other person how? By how you're treated. Don't understand another person by how they act. Yep how you're treated see, people's words are momentarily Situational well, well, words.

Speaker 1:

Words are meaningless actions. Speak louder than words.

Speaker 7:

I'm going back to help, but some people have no action and all they have is their words.

Speaker 3:

So, dave, to go back to your, your statement, actions speak louder than words. Yep, you can put all of your actions, the best of foot, forward as you see fit, but that person may never accept.

Speaker 1:

Exactly and that's a whole thing with relationships is that you can do everything right, but you're, you're, you're counting on the other person doing the same thing that may not happen To accept.

Speaker 1:

And I tell people and I'm telling you, I've seen, over 30 years, thousands of couples come into my office and at some point I say to them you know what? You're better off a part. I I'm not. I tell them I'm not here to save your marriage, I'm here to put you in a better place. Yeah, it's the truth and sometimes it's a part as individuals. That's just a fact.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta, you gotta judge people individually. Yeah, sometimes the couple doesn't work out. It is what it is. It's just not meant to be Exactly. But I think a lot of people have a high expectations and expect those people to live it up to those expectations and to change those Expectations from who they really are. You know, it's that this everybody does. Right, you marry a woman she you marry her who she is. You expect her to Make a home, to cook, to clean. It's your expectations as a husband. Right, you want to get married. This is what you're looking forward to. Huh, but the reality is you marry this person for who they are. So if they, if they take it upon themselves to do those things, right, they're gonna do them. But if you expect it from them, you're gonna disappoint yourself and disappoint them.

Speaker 3:

I never accepted my partner, my spouse, my wife, when I was married to cook and clean. I was a part of that. I did. I wash fucking windows for guys.

Speaker 6:

Let me ask you one thing that wasn't their job.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't their job and it's not. That's not the expectation.

Speaker 6:

Yeah but let me ask you one thing.

Speaker 7:

No, they're expectations that I'm talking about see so but me. I don't care if I go home and wash dishes. I wake up in the morning. I got to make my coffee. I do. If there's he does, I don't I do well, see.

Speaker 1:

See, it depends on. This goes back to expectations and what you want. Every relationship is so different. It is.

Speaker 3:

It is different and that's that's where this conversation comes in the intimacy, the Expectation, the relationship that you have with your partner, your spouse, your, your, your mom, your dad, your kid or what have you. You have a kid in high school or college. I still live in your house. What's that expectation? What is their responsibility to that? Can I?

Speaker 6:

ask you one thing. Can I ask one thing? Yeah, you're working all day long. You're putting 12, 15, 14, 8, 8, what it is. That's a to you. I'm gonna come home to wash dishes, to cook and everything else. Do you think that's fair? Well, let me assess. Okay.

Speaker 7:

If that person is the only one, she chose to stay at home, mom.

Speaker 1:

Is that person the only one working that's?

Speaker 3:

coming home? Yes. Is it a one income household?

Speaker 6:

Yes, yes, even if she work a day a week, even if she work a day, two days a week. Look, you choose your career, but you wanna become a house mom.

Speaker 7:

Everybody does, that's your career. You wanna work?

Speaker 3:

your career, okay you choose what you do for the rest of your life. Do I wanna come home and make a salmon, sure. Do I wanna come home and grill?

Speaker 6:

I don't give a shit. Yeah, but let me ask you one thing. Let me ask you one thing.

Speaker 3:

Do I wait back in cheese for the kiddos and whatever.

Speaker 6:

Tomorrow morning he'll do it. Who cares? Yeah, but there are certain things in life. While I'm gonna come home, I wanna have my food ready. Let's see, this is the problem.

Speaker 7:

So this is my brother. I don't know what we're yelling about, so this is my brother. It is, that's what brother does. This is my brother.

Speaker 1:

Again it goes back to expectations.

Speaker 7:

This is my brother. And what is real? I don't see. This is my brother. When you said expectations, you set yourself up to fail.

Speaker 3:

So, especially when you said expectations, for your brother or generally In general All right.

Speaker 7:

When you set expectations for other people, you're assuming they're gonna follow what you want them to do. You're setting yourself up for failure.

Speaker 6:

It goes back to the truth, absolutely.

Speaker 7:

You're setting yourself up for failure. You're not accepting who they are and you're expecting to do what you want them to do. It's not right of you, it's not humanly of you to do that, to expect people to do things.

Speaker 1:

But here's the other thing I also want you to do If you expect something from others, you're always gonna be disappointed.

Speaker 6:

Of course that's right Always.

Speaker 7:

I don't expect anything of my wife, but what I look for is mutual respect. If you're gonna choose to be a stay-at-home mom and I'm gonna work every single day you chose to be a stay-at-home mom, so Now you listen to me, mister. God did not put me on this earth To be awakened by filthy suggestions from a foul mouth who live in like you.

Speaker 5:

Me yes me.

Speaker 7:

Sorry.

Speaker 6:

That's who me Try this. You want to try this?

Speaker 7:

So that's what I think.

Speaker 3:

I think if you leave yourself to expectations you're leading yourself to failure.

Speaker 1:

Well here's the whole thing. What's your expectation for yourself? People always have an expectation of what is supposed to happen. No, and 90% of the time that does not happen, failure.

Speaker 6:

That's the problem 100% no, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you have to reconcile yourself. That are my expectations, realistic with whatever relationship you're in Wife, brother, sister, parent, friend. If it's not realistic, then you have to acknowledge that yourself.

Speaker 6:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

This is not realistic.

Speaker 6:

Can I tell you guys something right now? Yeah, and it happened today in front of him. He's my brother, he's my kid, I love him to death. It was fucking.

Speaker 3:

Today he came over. Wait, wait, wait, Is this? While you were golfing.

Speaker 6:

No, he didn't golf. No, no, I don't golf because you know why he's down a lot on the golf course.

Speaker 8:

Why not?

Speaker 7:

It was in the restaurants what I'm not I'm not.

Speaker 6:

What the fuck is it with you? Okay, listen to me. He came over to come here today. Okay, my wife, I love her to death. I've been married for 20 years, depressed as hell, but he cheered her up for her to drive us here To come here, wait, wait.

Speaker 1:

He cheered her up, not you.

Speaker 6:

I will never cheered her up, why? Because you know why. No, it's like different opinions. What, yes, she does, and you know what I don't blame for that, it's not me. Wait, wait, wait, say it again.

Speaker 7:

No, she hasn't liked different opinions.

Speaker 6:

She does.

Speaker 7:

He's a nice guy in the world, but he's a nice asshole. Yeah, he's a nice asshole. He's a nice guy, he's a nice asshole what he's?

Speaker 8:

a nice asshole it's for you.

Speaker 7:

Like you know, his wife, my back is hurting. What do you want me to do?

Speaker 6:

Okay, what do you want me to do? What do you want me to do?

Speaker 7:

You know I went there. He's like he went. Let's get her out of the house. Her back is hurting. Mary Ann, your back is hurting. Are you okay to drive?

Speaker 6:

Yes.

Speaker 7:

If you can drive and drop us off please.

Speaker 6:

That's what I did.

Speaker 4:

I just wanted to go out the house.

Speaker 7:

You didn't do that you were a nice asshole.

Speaker 5:

Whoa Okay okay.

Speaker 7:

The nice asshole said Mary Ann, you've been bored all day, you're depressed. Get in the car, come out with us. That is a nice asshole Because he's trying to get out of the house, but he's been an asshole about it.

Speaker 1:

Well, but. But let me ask this Did she need to get out of the house?

Speaker 8:

Yes, she's depressed all day. Yes, there's a two. Yes.

Speaker 7:

But see the, the, but the nice asshole 50-50 there, the nice asshole didn't work. See, that's the problem, right, so I go to her. Mary Ann, your back is hurting. Are you okay to drive Solidify?

Speaker 8:

Make her feel better about her back pain right.

Speaker 7:

Right, Are you okay to drive? She's like, yeah, why I go? I just want to make sure you're about to drive an hour and a half to drop us off and go back home, right, are you okay?

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 7:

If you're okay, drop us off. If you're not, stay home, be depressed.

Speaker 1:

See either one it's your choice. But either one works, depending on the situation.

Speaker 6:

It works.

Speaker 7:

but my problem is but in my in my situation, I showed that I cared about her. Back In his situation she said fuck your depression. You want to drop us off, or do you not want to drop us off? What's up.

Speaker 8:

Good to hear you, Dave. I think logic is challenging.

Speaker 1:

You know, Yvonne has some serious, has some serious. Yvonne does have some insight, but it is it is.

Speaker 8:

I mean, what you do is like, really like logic based, and it's like how does the brain process logic? And and but, and then there's so many variables to it. But I think, Yvonne, I think you got that logic game, that's that's what brothers for, though, I'm telling you.

Speaker 6:

That's what brothers for though they got to get each other.

Speaker 8:

And he's got his brothers back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah that's what it is, double fold I got it.

Speaker 8:

He's trying to have a good day and he's trying to have his brothers back. I mean, I golfed all fucking day.

Speaker 7:

I can't have a bad day. I can't ruin it, you know, I can't ruin it for him either.

Speaker 3:

I had a bad day at the office. Fuck you why.

Speaker 7:

We got 12 bottles Make it better. This is your office, gosh.

Speaker 1:

Roll by roll by and beyond the way home You're good, Before we end, Yvonne, let me ask you you golf today. Have you been golfing a while, yeah, but I still suck.

Speaker 7:

I've been golfing for two years. I still need that therapy, that golf therapy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're going to talk about that I've only been golfing for two years.

Speaker 6:

I like it like a. Can I tell you my?

Speaker 1:

20 handicap.

Speaker 6:

Can I tell you my golfing experience for a?

Speaker 4:

second Just one second, one second.

Speaker 6:

I'll tell you one thing. Tell me, mike, I was 20 years old. We're on golfing. We were seven people, we got two cars.

Speaker 1:

Well, first seven is wrong. Okay, that's the first.

Speaker 6:

This is the thing we were two cars. We start racing.

Speaker 4:

The first car flipped.

Speaker 6:

And the second car flipped too. Oh yeah, and you know what we got kicked out? Where did?

Speaker 7:

they flip. That was the first time I golfed. That was my last time. Where did they flip? Out of all places in the golf course to flip a golf course On the green, oh yeah yeah yeah, of course that's what it was.

Speaker 6:

It was high. It's not bad enough to skid on the green On the green.

Speaker 1:

Let's put the car on the green, not on the fairway, where you can drive On the middle, where the car path Right.

Speaker 8:

Right in front of the clubhouse too, it was high.

Speaker 7:

It wasn't my golf course, I would have kicked him out. I have a totally serious question right now.

Speaker 6:

They have a brain like a chicken.

Speaker 8:

Woo, now you're going to start hour 15 in Now, serious question. Now you're going to start hour 15 in Serious question.

Speaker 7:

I think he's getting intimate with the old tool?

Speaker 3:

Nope, why did August leave the old soul bottle in the studio?

Speaker 1:

Because I'm going to take it when we leave, because he said he's leaving it in the studio.

Speaker 7:

bar Fuck him. I'm trying to.

Speaker 1:

Love you all Give me the old, the old.

Speaker 3:

No, I cannot appreciate more than this conversation has happened, because it's all about brotherhood, it's all about people communicating with one another. You know what Dave was introduced to? Something new tonight.

Speaker 1:

What was that Old soul? Oh, oh yes, Old soul.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, definitely, I'm an old soul. I'm going to call there. There you go, there you go Give me a call.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but what you shared, mike, yvonne, jamie, david, myself- August, august, before you took off.

Speaker 1:

August left. He bailed. August got a lot of shit going on. Son of a bitch.

Speaker 3:

But you know what? We're all here to represent one another. We're all here to support one another your spouse, your wife, your brother, your sister.

Speaker 1:

Relationships. That's what this is all about. Yeah, it's people that you care about and want to be close to Now and let me say this before we end, because we're way over but who cares? Here's the thing the and I've said this to thousands of clients over 30 years If I don't care who it is, if it's your relative, if it's your brother, if it's your parent, if it's your friend, if they are negative influences on you, cut them loose. I don't care. If they're family, you said, cut them loose, cut them loose.

Speaker 6:

Cut them loose, cut them loose. Can I say one thing? Yes, relationship depends on communication. That's one thing. Yes, trust is the second thing. Yes, ok, and believe that's what they're thinking. Right, that's what I believe in. Yep, anybody going to give you a negative vibe in your life, there is no reason for you to have them in there, absolutely. That's exactly what I'm saying, because if you're going to have a negative vibe in your life always going to be negative.

Speaker 1:

Here's the test If you wouldn't have these people as friends, you wouldn't choose to have them as your friends. Don't take them just because they're family From the professional.

Speaker 3:

No.

Speaker 7:

Done. So my wife, when I got married, always asked me. She asked me why do you have more friends that you hang out with than family?

Speaker 3:

OK, so that's actually a really brilliant question. The.

Speaker 8:

Christmas card list just got a little shorter, that's great.

Speaker 6:

Jamie, jamie, jamie. There's no more Christmas cards, jamie, it's done. Can I tell you the truth? That's a brilliant question.

Speaker 7:

I don't want anybody's Christmas card and won't say love me.

Speaker 8:

Wait, wait, let's say love me. What's that, Jamie so?

Speaker 4:

wait, wait, I'm listening to you. No, more.

Speaker 7:

This is one thing I learned about family and friends.

Speaker 3:

I love you Eva that's a brilliant question. Why do you have more?

Speaker 7:

friends than family.

Speaker 1:

Why do you have more? What?

Speaker 7:

No, no, no I have more family than friends.

Speaker 1:

They have a brain like a chicken.

Speaker 7:

But I keep more friends close to me than family, and the reason being? The reason is family has expectations Value. Friends have appreciation Value.

Speaker 1:

Well, sometimes, yes, that's correct. But here's the thing you get to choose your friends. You don't get to choose your family.

Speaker 7:

No, you're stuck with what you get, but you get to choose how you approach your family. So the difference is that a family member asks you to help out and sometimes you can't. Oh, absolutely, but you're an asshole, ok. What do you do? That's for sure. And what do you do? And what do you do? There's really not a true thankfulness for it. This is how I feel. Are you doing Exactly? Fuck family.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to say it. I have a very close knit of friends who I will step up for.

Speaker 7:

And I'm going to finish this. I'm going to go take a piss. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I will step up for it.

Speaker 7:

You just did that, but, friends, I did.

Speaker 3:

But, friends, it's a big thing, it's past two minutes.

Speaker 7:

He said that not me, but friends. When you do something for them, they will always appreciate it. And even the thought of you saying no Depends on what kind of friend you have.

Speaker 1:

On the family side. No you're right and the family will say you should have done that. You should have been there yeah.

Speaker 7:

Why weren't you there?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, yeah, but it all depends on what kind of friends you have. No, that's true too. Ok, because you know why. I have good friends. Yeah, they will give me their life, and they have not bad friends. Now, I'm not saying no bad, but they don't do nothing and I gave them everything.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, hey, mike, yes, sir, I want to hang out with you. So, anytime, what was store? Because there's four of them. Which of the four stores are you doing? I'm in the Davidson. I'm in the Davidson, you're west side. You got to cross your fingers and do the west side thing.

Speaker 6:

Jamie you go north.

Speaker 8:

It's Davidson. No, davidson's north, right, north.

Speaker 3:

All right, jamie, you go south. All right, you got to go north, so I can't.

Speaker 1:

Pass.

Speaker 8:

Till my arthritis really kicks in. I can't do north.

Speaker 1:

By the way, that's Jamie who you're hearing. Who's piped in in the last 15 minutes? I'm just trying, just so you know.

Speaker 8:

Hang out with Mike, so Davidson up north. So where exactly can people find the northern? We are yes.

Speaker 6:

We are on Davidson Road between Irish and M15. Nice, next to VG's.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 6:

Next to VG's All right Supermarkets, next to Duggies and San Plaza, and there's when Yvonne like sells out of shit down, down, like in Utah.

Speaker 1:

Do you still have it? You still?

Speaker 8:

got a couple of like off in the corner. People like, oh crap, he sold out. I got to go up.

Speaker 6:

I got to, I got to go, not really. No, I sold out before him.

Speaker 1:

Do you have old soul in your stock? I do, we all do. People are pretty thirsty up north too.

Speaker 2:

Come and get this.

Speaker 8:

Yes, people are pretty thirsty up north too, then.

Speaker 6:

Yeah.

Speaker 8:

But there's less boutique. I don't.

Speaker 6:

You know, the problem is, I don't know.

Speaker 8:

It's boutique the right word. I would almost call you guys like I have boutique. It sounds a little too pretty because you guys are like you're handsome mofos for sure.

Speaker 2:

Thank you very much. I would not. I would not.

Speaker 8:

I would not call you pretty or anything, but I would call you for sure handsome.

Speaker 6:

You know what difference is between me.

Speaker 8:

So you're like you're boutique handsome.

Speaker 1:

It's a new phrase right Hold on. Hold on Coin that. Oh wait, Matt's getting something for you Coin it.

Speaker 8:

Coin it, great heavens. What kind of radio show is this?

Speaker 6:

I tell you, you guys, are boutique handsome, thank you very much. But I tell you a different between my store and Ivan's store. Ok, ivan's store been we've been there for 32 years. My store, we've been 12 years. The different Ivan location has got 80,000 people. My location has got 19,000 people. Ok, the difference between us is the community. The difference between us is 19,000.

Speaker 7:

His 19,000 drink, four times more than my 80,000.

Speaker 8:

That's kind of. That is called Mike. I think I'm loving your 19,000 people, that's what it is, jamie.

Speaker 3:

Jamie that's called north of Flint.

Speaker 6:

I'll tell you one thing I love my 19,000 people I love, I'm sure you do, I do, you know what I love them all Because you know why, you know why, why Six times it is I agree.

Speaker 3:

Fellows, this has been.

Speaker 8:

Cheers.

Speaker 3:

This has been extraordinary. This has been fantastic.

Speaker 1:

We have never never as a motor city hypnotist and the man gave happy hour combined so completely as this episode.

Speaker 8:

But so fluid? Yes, it is fluid.

Speaker 1:

You know what Can.

Speaker 6:

I come to you and my wife.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely To the site.

Speaker 6:

Yes, all right. If anything is wrong, get it, it's right.

Speaker 7:

Everything is wrong. Come on and see me.

Speaker 6:

Every.

Speaker 8:

No, no, everything, Guys, guys just one thing.

Speaker 6:

You know what I?

Speaker 8:

got a good If everything's right something's not right, that's the good. If everything is right, something's not right.

Speaker 1:

Do you guys carry tequila who?

Speaker 9:

Well, so long as we've got some time to kill, I think I'll have a beer.

Speaker 4:

We don't have no beer.

Speaker 9:

Just tequila. What was tequila? Yeah, it's like beer. Is it bad?

Speaker 5:

What do you mean? Forget it. If it's like beer, we'll have some Three tequilas.

Speaker 6:

Sure, Sure amigo.

Speaker 5:

Enjoy yourself.

Speaker 6:

Try not to get into too much trouble. Ok, there you go.

Speaker 7:

Too late for that Much Like they say something is shit and something is good.

Speaker 3:

I enjoy it.

Speaker 8:

Gentlemen, cheers, I enjoy it, I enjoy this episode Cheers.

Speaker 6:

I don't know what I'm drinking, but you know what Cheers guys Love. You guys, man. Thank you, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Glad to have any guys. Yvonne and Mike from AB Liquor, look them up for locations. Give me locations again so they know.

Speaker 7:

AMB and Shelby Township, 21 of Van Dyke, clinton Township, 18 and a half in Hayes, new Baltimore, green Street in Washington and downtown and then Davis and Township where this crazy man Mike is at.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 3:

Crazy man.

Speaker 7:

Davis and Road between M15 and.

Speaker 3:

Irish Mike, you need to come back on the show.

Speaker 1:

No, you guys both need to come back. I'll have you on every week.

Speaker 6:

I'll tell you guys one thing. To be honest. You told like a few things. God bless you guys all Because you know what I love it and you know what I really appreciate it for you guys having us here hey question.

Speaker 1:

Thank you very much. Question yes, there's no question. Wait, wait, give me again. Go ahead On dope.

Speaker 5:

No just whiskey.

Speaker 6:

That's what it is.

Speaker 1:

That's what it is.

Speaker 3:

You know what? Sit down, have a conversation and it's all about love. Ask a question.

Speaker 6:

Ask a question.

Speaker 3:

Just communicate.

Speaker 6:

No, you know what it is all about. One more thing? No, no.

Speaker 7:

Keep up.

Speaker 6:

Really.

Speaker 1:

Come on, Mike. Come on, Mike. You know what it is all about.

Speaker 6:

It's about caring, caring. It's about caring, not caring the girl caring. Caring right, but it's about caring when you care about something in life, and that's what it is. That's what I believe. Absolutely, because you know why that I like this in the background? What the fuck is it with you?

Speaker 7:

What the fuck does happen? What the fuck does happen, it's called drops.

Speaker 3:

You want from not caring to caring.

Speaker 7:

You just said you don't fucking care anymore.

Speaker 6:

And now you care, I do, I do.

Speaker 7:

We're going to start a new podcast called the Not Caring Show.

Speaker 6:

There we go. We need to do it starring Mike, that doesn't care.

Speaker 7:

The forums, yes, yes, we don't. No one cares.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely All right, folks. We are done with an hour and 40 minute Motor City Hypnotist podcast. This is a record, folks, and it's fantastic. Take a listen, you'll love it. This is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist. God bless, thank you for listening. Everybody say goodbye.

Speaker 6:

See you, goodbye, god bless J.

Speaker 1:

Laugh hard, run fast. Be kind, we will see you next time.

Speaker 4:

We will see you onrove. 쟌 z발. We were told from the founding of the spilled cam. We were told from your point to Keep at gauge. That's what we wanted. Right, and we're going to Quiz Hangout right now, unless we play the fly In the no-transcript.