
Motor City Hypnotist
Motor City Hypnotist
Therapy Unveiled - Q&A Part 2
What if you could uncover the secrets to a healthier mind and a happier life? Join us on the latest installment of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast Q&A series with David R. Wright, where we explore the fascinating realms of therapy and hypnosis. Get a glimpse into the innovative world of ketamine-assisted hypnosis and learn how you can enhance your skills with our upcoming certification training. We’re giving you access to invaluable resources, including a free hypnosis guide, ensuring you're well-equipped on your journey towards mental wellness.
Experience the warmth of community spirit through the touching story of the Fernandina Beach Fire Department's surprise for young KJ, then take a nostalgic trip with us as we discuss the TV show "Dear John" and its cinematic counterpart. We also dive into the realm of pop culture, reflecting on Judd Hirsch's memorable portrayals of therapists over the years. Transitioning from screen to real life, we shed light on the important steps to finding the right therapist, emphasizing the necessity of checking insurance coverage and the hurdles small clinics face with certain providers.
Explore the evolving landscape of mental health care, examining the benefits of Medicare, Medicaid, and the significant impact of the Mental Health Equity Clause from the TARP bill. As online therapy continues to trend, we weigh its advantages against the traditional in-person sessions. Get informed about the different types of therapists and how to make the most of your first session, ensuring you step into this process with an open mind, ready to engage with your mental health journey.
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The Motor City Hypnotist
David Wright: 0:00
In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast we are talking about therapy Q&A, and this is part two of the series. If you haven't listened to part one, you can jump back an episode or listen now and jump back after. Either way, you've got it all covered and, as usual, we're giving away free stuff. Hang in there, folks, We'll be right back this sounds like something for the authorities in Detroit.
Announcer: 0:23
Well, joke's on you. I'm living to 102 and then dying at the city of Detroit, guys like this can't take over here.
Matt Fox: 0:29
out of Detroit Spawned in the hellfires of Motown.
Announcer: 0:37
Take him to Detroit. No, no, not Detroit, no, no, please, anything but that no, stationed in Drambuie, it's worse than Detroit. We did not have, as a unit, the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. Let's go to Detroit. Now you're talking brother. I don't think so. He plays for Detroit now. Do they have many farms in Detroit?
Matt Fox: 0:59
Detroit to Michigan. I go to school. I know where Detroit is.
Announcer: 1:03
Get ready for the Motor City Hypist David R Wright. Originating from the suburbs of Detroit, michigan, he has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United.
David Wright: 1:13
States.
Announcer: 1:15
David R Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome the Motor City Hypnotist David R Wright.
David Wright: 1:50
What is going on, my friends? This is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist, and we are back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast. Bet your bottom dollar, bet your bottom dollar. That is Matt Fox, the other voice you hear, hello, hanging out here on a Monday evening doing a podcast and here at the palatial Southfield Podcast, your Voice Studios. Thank you, yeah, absolutely Hanging out doing a podcast.
Matt Fox: 2:16
You going to make it? Are you going to live?
David Wright: 2:19
Sorry, I had this. I had a cold like a couple of weeks ago and it's just this throat thing. I got a throg in my throat as my son used to say A throg.
Announcer: 2:28
That's what he called his kid, throat frog, yeah it's crazy.
David Wright: 2:31
It's crazy. So, anyway, we're here doing a podcast, hanging out, having fun. Yep, let me tell you where you can find me, folks. My website is MotorCityHypnotistcom. A couple of updates on the website in the last couple of weeks there's a whole section, section on ketamine assisted hypnosis same thing with therapy that we do in our clinic and and you can also book sessions through the motor city hypnotist site or the counseling and therapy associate site. So one is for hypnosis, the other one's for therapy, but you can find us both through both sites. So so check that out, uh, if you have any questions. Also, if you're looking for a show, the MotorCityHypnotistcom slash shows is the best way to book. You can go online, get a quote within minutes, book and sign and pay your deposit all within minutes. So if you're looking for something, and just as a heads up, the high school season is booking up really quickly. April, may, june are post-prom and post-grad night parties and most of the time they will have hypnotist as their entertainment to finish off their evenings. But again, we're booking up quick. So if you have a date that you need, go to my website now. There you go, book it. So it's done.
David Wright: 3:40
My social media Facebook and YouTube are both Motor City Hypnotist. And my social media Facebook and YouTube are both motor city hypnotist. And my social media Snapchat, instagram and Tik TOK are all motor city. No H Y P N? O. All right, and on, let me. Let me guide you to the Tik TOK. So that's fairly new. We just got into that space, of course, just in time for it to be banned, but that's okay, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens, but I did post a video up and we tried this. We tried this a few years ago, but but it was right around covet time and it just didn't. We the timing wasn't great, but we're.
David Wright: 4:12
But I'm planning on doing a training, a hypnosis training, in august of this year. Fun, uh. Second weekend in august will be friday, saturday, sunday, monday yeah, thursday, friday, saturday, monday five-day training, 40 hours. You can get your certification in hypnosis. So here's the thing Go to MotorCityHypnotistcom, click on the Academy tab and that will take you to all the information on how to register, what the cost is. Again, it's an intensive five-day training with real volunteers.
David Wright: 4:44
Now, matt, we talked about this before. You were going to volunteer for this at some point, so just kind of keep August in your mind. Not that I'll hold you to it, but I think it's a free hypnosis, yeah. Yeah, so we will be looking for volunteers, but I also want to book up this class because it's only 10 people. It's 10 people max because it's just easier to make sure everybody gets the attention they need. Cool, so check that out. That's on the website as well. And for your free hypnosis guide, which we give away every show text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510. And within minutes, you'll get your free hypnosis PDFdf text right to your phone and it'll also ask you to leave a review. Now, typically, this is to leave a review for a show, but since you're listening to the podcast, that's also a show, so you just leave the, the review, or the. Uh yeah, leave the review on the podcast. It all goes to my google page, motor city hypnotist. However you do it, it's perfect, so check that out as well. All right?
Matt Fox: 5:44
righty. It is time, matt, are we doing it?
Announcer: 5:55
That's how winning is done.
David Wright: 5:57
All righty. On December 18th, fernandini Beach Fire Department rushed to the scene of a bicycle collision where a young man was trapped under his bike wheel. Wow, before the firefighters could free the boy named KJ, they had to cut his foot loose from where it was trapped among the spokes of the wheel of the bike. You had to cut it loose, ultimately ruining the bike. Okay, yeah, they had to cut it loose, ultimately ruining the bike, okay.
David Wright: 6:25
Yeah, they had to cut all the spokes to get his foot out. Kj was then brought to the hospital to be treated for injuries, including a very nasty ankle sprain. But seeing how it was the holidays, the firemen felt they had to do something to cheer the lad up. Huh, they came to the hospital and surprised him with a brand new bike and helmet. Okay, the following day they shared a photograph on the Fernandini Fire Department Facebook page of them surprising KJ, who appears to be asleep with his new gift. His mother, joanna, smiling on his behalf in the photo, said that the injury left no serious damage, but that KJ was still in shock.
David Wright: 7:08
This reminds us of what holidays are truly about. Merry Christmas and happy holidays from our fire family to yours. Stay safe, fernandina. The fire department said in the post Nice. So yeah, for the Fernandina Beach Fire Department and for KJ, this kid who just had an accident on his bike and got ruined. I brought him a brand new bike. Here's a photo if you want to see the photo of KJ and his bed and the bike that they brought him.
David Wright: 7:35
A couple of firefighters and his mom.
Matt Fox: 7:38
And he still has his foot. Good.
David Wright: 7:39
Yes, just a nasty sprain, so he'll recover fully. He'll be back on the bike in no time. His brand new bike with his brand new helmet. Thank you for that. So shout out to KJ and the Fernandina Beach Fire Department. Definitely winner of the week, perfect.
Announcer: 8:03
That's how winning is done.
Matt Fox: 8:16
Yes, it is. So back to it. So we're here, matt, we're here. Um last episode. I had talked about the tv show dear john. Yes, so the therapist in that show? Yes, not Bernadette Peters. Okay, it was Jane Carr. That was the actress's name, jane Carr. What was the year of this show? 1988.
David Wright: 8:32
Oh, really old.
Matt Fox: 8:34
Yeah, 1988 to 1992.
David Wright: 8:37
So there was a show and I'm confusing it with a show that was out recently, within the last couple of years, I don't know if it was Dear John. John was in the title. There is a movie called dear john, and eric banna played this guy. Who, who would, would seduce women and then kill them. Oh my goodness, it's, it's, it's a crazy show.
Matt Fox: 8:57
Yeah the one I'm. That's the one I was thinking about, the one I'm talking about at judd hirsch as the oh, judd hirsch.
David Wright: 9:02
Yes, do you know the other movie that judd hirsch played a therapist in?
Matt Fox: 9:07
uh, I want to say independence day, but it's not no older way back 80s, probably taxi kind of.
David Wright: 9:15
He was kind of in there ordinary people, oh wow, yeah, he was timothy hutton's therapist and ordinary people, yeah, yeah and that is one of those movies we we went back, go way back into our archives. It was probably in the first 50 episodes or so. We did movies that accurately portray therapy. That was one of them. I think that was close to number one, okay. So yeah, judd did play a therapist, and in ordinary people as well. Nice, all righty. So we're talking about speaking of therapy. Yes, we're here today with part two of Q&A therapy Q&A, so we're answering questions. Last episode again, if you didn't listen, jump back and listen we covered why would I speak to a therapist instead of a friend and how do I know when to seek a therapist, right? So today we're starting off on how do I find a therapist, what's the process? What is the process for going and actually going online or calling or I don't know searching for a therapist?
Matt Fox: 10:17
Well, the first thing that you may want to do is talk to your insurance provider to find out what is actually covered for therapy.
David Wright: 10:27
That is exactly right. So let me kind of just give you a really quick breakdown. So we accept most major insurance companies Blue Cross, blue Shield, aetna, blue Care Network, hap, hap we do not take See, because see with HAP. Here's the problem with HAP and I'll throw it out there, I hope they're listening. But they don't credential individuals, they only credential groups and they don't credential your group unless you're accredited. Wow, and the accreditation process is a that is really for big, bigger clinics and companies, because the cost of that just for an audit to get an accreditation is like $5,000.
Matt Fox: 11:16
Like your Corwell's or your St. John's.
David Wright: 11:20
Yeah, your major health companies are accredited, I'm sure, but for a small clinic like us we have 10 therapists and a psychiatrist and two office staff it's just not worth the money and the work it would take, because to be accredited you have to meet so many requirements and you have to have a book that's like this thick when I'm holding my hands up if you guys are not watching on video. Is that six inches? Yeah, about that, it's close Are you sure?
David Wright: 11:46
No, it's not quite, it's really two but, whatever, but a huge book full of policies and procedures and structure and policy. It's just too much. It's too much for us to handle. So, yes, we do not take cap, but again, we take Medicaid insurance Melina, aetna, better Health, blue Cross, complete. So we take a lot of insurances but there are insurances we don't take.
David Wright: 12:09
So you're right, matt, the biggest thing is, if you have insurance, is to go to your site and see who's covered first. That's first step, number one. So the other thing you want to consider, once you found a place that you know that your insurance will cover, or if you don't have insurance, again the, the challenge is going to be cost. If you're paying cash, sure, we'll get into that in a little bit but, um, the first thing is you want to consider again one, one of the things that that one of the questions asked is what?
David Wright: 12:40
What education does a therapist have? And I'll kind of cover that in this, because when you're looking, looking for a therapist, you want to make sure one, they're licensed, and they wouldn't be online if they weren't licensed. It's kind of redundant, but that's an important thing the cost of their services and what they deal with. So a general therapist does psychotherapy with a client, but they might have areas that they've not had a lot of experience in. So it's important to ask that. So like if somebody came to me and said yes, I have. Oh, I'm trying to. I'm trying to think of a good example of something that I don't deal with a whole lot.
Matt Fox: 13:17
Um, a psychosis? Menopausal issues? I don't know, I'm just.
David Wright: 13:25
I'm just trying to bring a bring a random thing up Psychosis of matches, I don't know but but make sure your therapist experienced in the thing that you're coming to them for, because you know there's a lot of of of therapists out there and most of them are general therapists. They they deal with anxiety. The other questions that you need to ask yourself do you want a therapist with the same cultural guidelines or same cultural beliefs as you? That could make a difference. Because because I mean, you know a lot of a lot of clients come in and they want Christian counseling per se, okay, and a lot of our therapists are not what I would. They don't identify as Christian or they're not religious. So so, again, these are questions to ask.
David Wright: 14:15
If you need somebody that that you feel like you could connect with better, and that's the big thing with the therapist, you have to be able to connect with them and I've said this hundreds of times over the years, if not thousands you have to. You have to have a good relationship with your therapist. You have to click with them, because if you don't, it's not going to help you, because you're going to be spending the whole time doubting what they're saying or not trusting them, sure. And if you don't have that, it's not going to work for you. So make sure that you have somebody that you can connect with. Now here's the challenge. You may come to therapy. After three or four sessions you might feel like I'm really not digging it with this cat. It's just not working for me. It's important. It's incumbent on you, as the client, to say I need to see somebody different. That's hard to do because you feel like you're stuck or that you're assigned to this person, but you have a choice.
Matt Fox: 15:06
And I would hope that the the therapist is professional enough to say but okay, let's find you somebody instead of going. Why, why, why?
David Wright: 15:16
Matt, I was just. I was just going to get into that. What's wrong? The first every client I see for the first time I say to them hey, at some point in this relationship, if you feel like it's not working, you have to let me know. I don't take it personally. I know I'm not going to click with everyone. I know I'm not a therapist for everyone, sure. So if it's not working for you, you need to let me know so that I can get you to somebody you can connect with. Right I, I? I say it every session, the first session, every time. Now, some therapists may not do that, and you're right, matt. Some may be like, oh, you don't want to see me wrong.
David Wright: 15:53
That's again that comes with experience too, right? So the best way, other than looking at your insurance company to see who's approved, is go to Psychology Today. They have a huge. Most therapists are on Psychology Today and they have an ad or information about that clinic or that therapist. Start there, because it gives you a lot of information as far as what they do, what the clinic's like In our psychology today.
David Wright: 16:20
It lists all of the stuff that we handle, all of the areas that our therapists cover hours of operation that were telehealth and in person. So it gives you a lot of information. So psychology today can be a great source to start finding a therapist. Is that a dot com or a dot org? Nope, it's psychology today, dot com, okay, yep, and in the other thing you can do is ask for a referral from your doctor or from friends or family that may be seeing a therapist or going to a facility. Sure, because a lot of our people that come in are referred by friends and family that have come seeing a therapist are going to a facility. Sure, because I a lot of our people that come in are referred by friends and family that have come and seen us who were you seeing when you were on the sixth floor over at uh what are you doing?
Matt Fox: 17:04
over there.
Announcer: 17:05
I saw you walk in with your hood up and a mask on. It's crazy, right, yeah, I know, I know.
David Wright: 17:12
Okay, next question this, this, this is a crazy one. How much does therapy cost?
Matt Fox: 17:19
Well, let's see, let's find out a one a two, a three.
David Wright: 17:24
So this is a very generic question. So, and I and I'm going to be right up front and honest with you If you have insurance coverage, that's great because your insurance will cover a majority of it. Here's the problem. Most insurances, people have deductibles you have to meet. So if you have a $1,000 deductible, you got to pay that before the insurance kicks in and pays for the visits, whether it be family and Matt, I'm telling you every day, every single day, especially since the first of the year has come along, deductibles have reset.
David Wright: 18:02
Every single day we have somebody saying I can't afford that and I'm like but this is your coverage, this is your insurance coverage. We have to charge it. We can't waive a deductible because we've contracted with the insurance company that we're collecting this amount so it can be applied to your deductible. So this, this, we go round and around with this, but but as far as cost for therapy, most insurances again, most insurances now have a deductible of some sort. Yeah, once you read that, reach that deductible, typically like with blue cross or blue care network 90 you might have a 10 copay or a $20 copay or something like that.
Matt Fox: 18:35
That's the copay to actually go in for the visit Right. Then, whatever the cost was, the insurance provider will cover that first 90%. Then you have to cover the other 10%, correct, and the balance, the balance and the insurance will pay the rest.
David Wright: 18:49
So for us, our cash rate at our clinic is $175 per session. Okay, so just keep that in mind. If you don't have insurance, that's kind of what you're looking at. Now I know a lot of people would be like I can't afford to do that every week. So we always say to clients listen, if you have to pay cash, if you don't have insurance, we want to be able to help you. So let's do sessions every other week or every three weeks to kind of make it more manageable. But the important thing is that you're seeing someone, so so we can work around that.
David Wright: 19:19
Now there were years ago, and a lot of places will do what we call a sliding scale, and that means they reduce the cost based on income. It's, it's. We don't do that anymore and I'll tell you why. Because it's so hard to kind of of of. We don't do that anymore and I'll tell the game If you understand what I'm saying. I do If you have a financial commitment, you tend to take therapy more seriously because you have an investment in it Sure, financial and emotional and psychological. So just be ready. Now. There are some services out there that would have reduced fee services, something like Community Cares or something like the Guidance Center in Southgate. They do a lot of community mental health, so they have subsidies from the government.
Matt Fox: 20:26
Well, I'll even throw in Easter Seals on that. Easter Seals is another great one, because when someone comes in and they say I can't afford that, I don't have insurance, well, what you don't? You have to understand the resources that are out there. That I hope you get to the point where it's not just a fact of affording. You could get Medicare, you could get Medicaid. There are resources that are out there Absolutely, and you're choosing not to and you're just saying they can't afford it because there's no, they don't want any skin.
David Wright: 20:55
Well, well, and here's the thing If it's important enough, you'll afford it. Right, and I know that sounds blunt and harsh and non-feeling, but but that's the truth If it's important, you're going to pay for it, right? I know, for some people, 300 bucks a month sounds like a lot. 340 bucks sounds like a lot. It is it is, but you have to think about long-term. Am I going to be better doing this? That is the big question. There's an article and I'll put a link in the show notes. Okay, is therapy worth the cost?
Matt Fox: 21:32
There's an article and I'll put the link in there and you can take a look at it I don't want to go through all that but Bottom line, you get out of it what you put into it. Absolutely, that's my bottom line Yep.
David Wright: 21:43
So the next question is again does my insurance cover therapy? We kind of covered that in this question. So here's the thing with insurance companies, and this happened way back in 2008.
Matt Fox: 21:55
Weirdly.
David Wright: 21:58
That's when the entire housing crisis the big bubble went boom.
David Wright: 22:01
But you remember the TARP bill they passed. It was like what was it like? $30 billion TARP bill. It was huge. Part of that TARP bill was the Mental Health Equity Clause. That was part of one of the earmarks in that bill that passed. Equity clause, that was part of the the one of the earmarks in that bill that passed. And it states that if an insurance company offers medical coverage and mental health coverage, they have to match. So you can't say to somebody your medical coverage is covered at a hundred percent but mental health is only 50%.
David Wright: 22:28
It has to be the same it has to be exactly the same coverage for both physical and mental health. Sure, so that's a good thing, because insurance companies can't pimp on mental health now.
Announcer: 22:41
You know, what.
Matt Fox: 22:42
I mean.
David Wright: 22:43
I mean, they can try.
Matt Fox: 22:44
You said pimp, I did I said pimp. Oh great, odin's Raven. I just want to say that's the first time, yeah, in the history of this podcast that the word pimp has been said has been said yes, I like this in the background.
David Wright: 23:01
What the fuck is it with you?
Announcer: 23:03
what's the next?
David Wright: 23:04
question. Next question can I do therapy online? Sure, absolutely you can. Web md, go for it. Studies have been done. I'm telling you and and and again. People may scoff at this. Now let me tell you, as, coming from a therapist, I prefer to have people in front of me in person. I just think it makes a better connection. Oh yeah, but a majority of my people I see now are telehealth because it's more convenient for them. They can do it when they take a lunch break at work, they can do it from home, they can do it from their dorm room at college. Sure, so so that's the great thing about online therapy, and studies have shown that online therapy is just as effective as in-person therapy. Let me share with you.
Matt Fox: 23:43
When I the therapist that I was speaking with, I never saw the individual in person, nor did I see them on telehealth. It was all via phone.
David Wright: 23:55
Okay. So now that happens sometimes too, and it.
Matt Fox: 23:58
You know, we we ended up having a good conversation over the phone and, yes, they helped me out tremendously, but I never sat down with the therapist in person or on telehealth. It was all phone call, Right Cause that that's all we really needed, Right.
David Wright: 24:14
Yeah, and I kind of feel like the medium is almost not as important as the fact that you're doing it. That is the big thing to take from that, and it is effective and it's convenient. And I will say for us therapists and for mental health clinics having the ability, because, I mean, before COVID there was no there, we couldn't do it, no, we wouldn't get paid for it, right. Because now it's opened up a whole, I mean again, we can, we? We have six offices in our building eight hours a day.
Matt Fox: 24:49
Now we don't need, we're not limited by the office space a lot of things came out of covid, some great and some very, not so great, and the mediums that have opened up that are great actually are still somewhat detrimental, because it's still keeping a person in a home and they're like I don't need to leave my house for this, right, yeah, but they need to get out of, like they have social anxiety.
David Wright: 25:15
Well, it's good you brought that up, matt, because I do have clients that that are resistant to going out, are resistant being in public, and I would say to them listen, we're going to do three sessions telehealth, but then you have to do one session in person with me. Sure, part of getting that change going. So, again, if you see a good therapist, something like that may happen, which is totally fine. Another question that I get a lot what type of therapist should I see? Well, so people say therapist, that's a very general term. So therapists are made up of psychologists, psychiatrists, social workers, counselors, and when people look at this they're like I'm so confused. Who do I go to? Who do I call? Which one of these areas do I get therapy from? Well, all of them, however Well, I mean in most of those categories provide therapy, but sometimes you need a very specific therapist with what you're dealing with, if that makes sense. So I'm going to go through a little flow chart with you.
David Wright: 26:21
Yes, no questions. The first question is you want to come to therapy? First question is do you feel like you need medication? Oh, good question. If the answer is no, then a social worker, a licensed professional counselor, psychologist, will work for your needs. Okay, if you want medication, or if you think you need medication, then you need to go to a place that has a doctor or psychiatrist in particular on staff. Okay, so let's go back to if you're, you need to go to a place that has a doctor or psychiatrist in particular on staff, Okay, so.
David Wright: 26:57
So let's go back to if you, if you're not seeking medication or you don't think you need it, then you see a counselor a social worker, a psychologist or a licensed professional counselor.
David Wright: 27:10
So so here's the thing All of those uh, when I say psychologist I'm talking limited licensed psychologists. They're called an LLP. Those are master's level clinicians. Licensed master social workers are master's level clinicians. Licensed professional counselors are master's level clinicians. They're all the same level as far as education goes. The training and the schooling is a little bit different. Psychologists lean more into testing and research, social workers lean more into family community resources and counselors are more geared towards therapy. Got it? Okay, psychiatrists nowadays. They used to, but they don't. Nowadays, psychiatrists really don't do therapy. And there are some probably used to, but they don't. Nowadays, psychiatrists really don't do therapy, and there are some probably that do, but most don't. Most psychiatrists are there to prescribe and manage medication, got it? That's kind of their area. They're not going to do hour-long therapy sessions with you weekly.
Matt Fox: 28:14
It's just the way it works. And how do they know what to prescribe?
David Wright: 28:18
It's just the way it works and how do they know what to prescribe. Well, typically what happens in our office? Because we have therapists and then we have our psychiatrists on staff. You come and you see a therapist and I talk to Johnny. Johnny says I'm feeling really depressed, I'm having suicidal ideations, I've been struggling with this for months. Then I say, well, you know what it might be good for you to see our psychiatrist, let him do an evaluation, sure. Then I say, well, you know what it might be good for you to see our psychiatrist, let him do an evaluation, sure, see if medication would be helpful. Okay, if the client's good with that, then we schedule an intake with the doctor, with Dr Singh, who's our psychiatrist. He will do an intake, prescribe medication as needed and they will continue to do therapy along with the medication Got it. And our policy in our clinic is that if you see Dr Singh for medication, you have to see a therapist regularly, even if it's monthly, just to check in to make sure things are good. Good, got it, because we don't want to just say here's your medication, right, goodbye, check some balances, see you later.
David Wright: 29:07
Yeah, so really, the difference you need to know is that most therapists are master's level psychologists, social workers or counselors Got it All right. Master's level psychologist, social workers or counselors. Got it All right. How should I prepare for my first session? Again, it's a very general question, but it's a valid one, because people think what do I do? How do I go into this? You want to go in with an open?
Matt Fox: 29:34
mind, and I'm speaking Number one, matt, keep an open mind. Okay, so you want to go in with an open mind? And I'm speaking Number one, matt, keep an open mind, okay, yeah, so you want to go in with an open mind. And thank you for the reaffirmation.
David Wright: 29:44
Yeah. The yes, yes.
Matt Fox: 29:45
Yes, the confirmation, yeah, and here's why, when, when and I'll speak from personal experience. Sure, I went in. I knew that there were things going on in my world, around in my life that there were out of control. However, I really was wanting to understand it. Number one and how could I do something differently? Number two, that's the open mind. They say you can't have blinders on when you go into it. You have to be able to look at the world around you and and accept that you may hear something you may not like, but then you have to process that?
David Wright: 30:21
Yes, absolutely so. Number one, as Matt said, keep an open mind. That's the biggest thing, because here's the thing you have to be ready to change and be willing to change. That's why you're coming to therapy. That's the whole point of it. I would say, before your first session, write down specific topics that you want to address or issues that you feel like you need to address, whether that's like oh man, I get really anxious in this situation, or I don't have a great relationship with my dad, or I have these thoughts of hurting myself, whatever it is. Whatever the things are there, write them down so that you can cover them with your therapist in that first session and that way we can build a plan around those things, them with your therapist in that first session and that way we can build a plan around those things.
David Wright: 31:01
And the other thing is be prepared to be honest. If you're not honest in therapy, it's not going to work Right. And here's the thing and I want to assure people because I've heard things over the last 33 years but the point being is that by law, it's confidential, right? If somebody came to me and said I committed a murder five years ago, I can't share that. It's confidential information. It happened in a session. Wow, by law, I can't share that information.
Matt Fox: 31:36
So let me ask, because there's always a gray area, Dave.
David Wright: 31:40
At what point can you? If okay, the only I'll give you, because I this is the, this is the conversation I have with clients. There are only two reasons I would break confidentiality If you're in danger of hurting yourself or someone else. Or in danger of hurting someone else, got it. That's it Currently. Else, or in danger of hurting someone else got it. That's it currently like today. Today, not five years, not five years ago, not 10 years ago not 20 years ago?
Matt Fox: 32:04
wow, yep. What if you were subpoenaed because of something that happened five years ago?
David Wright: 32:09
that that has happened okay and I can claim patient doctor, confidentiality all right, yeah, I mean, it's easy as that.
David Wright: 32:19
So, yes, be prepared to speak your mind. But also, in here's the thing be aware also, and and to be honest, but also be aware, that therapists might say things you don't like, right, and I said that they might bring things up that that you think, oh, but here's the point, that they're bringing it up for a reason and the reason is to help you. So that's how that's. Just be ready to to to you have to be ready to be I don't want to say criticized, that's not a good word but but questions not even questioned.
Matt Fox: 32:51
That's why I said when you go with you, may you, you have to prepare yourself to understand. You understand, you may hear something that you just don't like. Don't like, you don't agree with. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but they're there to help you and you have to take that as a grain of salt, absolutely.
David Wright: 33:05
And and and again.
Matt Fox: 33:06
This goes back to being open and honest and just being like accepting of of information you're receiving and if they and you know what, and during that session, if they say something you don't agree with, can tell them. You know what, what I don't agree with that statement.
David Wright: 33:20
That that's part of that honesty absolutely sure, and then we can kind of cover it and make sure that we're both on the same page.
David Wright: 33:27
Right, absolutely, absolutely, yeah. So that's how to prepare for your first session. We have more stuff, matt and, and we're gonna do a part three on next episode, which usually happens. You know, you know how this happens with this podcast. We have a, we have a topic that'd be like oh, this is one session and we do four in it. Yeah, or this is a two, two-parter and it ends up being a three-parter it's important information to know it is and it's important to cover and talk about all right fine so we will be back next, next Monday or next episode with part three of therapist Q and a therapy Q and a uh before we leave today.
David Wright: 34:04
Oh, just as a reminder, every Monday evening we record from eight to nine Eastern standard time. You can join us on Facebook live, be a part of the podcast, join us, ask questions. You can hop in, interact with, interact with us. Yeah, just come on in. We're always open on facebook live. Yeah, for those of you on audio, again, the next episode will drop the next tuesday or thursday. Just be on, look for that, and we will be back next time with therapy q a part three. Before we go. You know he needs a home matt.
Matt Fox: 34:36
Matt, let me guess Toyota.
David Wright: 34:39
Oh, you're so close. It's Honda. I swear to God.
Matt Fox: 34:44
look, I saw it sitting over there. Oh, did you? Yes, come on you asshole.
David Wright: 34:49
I thought you had some magic vehicle thing in your mind.
Announcer: 34:53
No, anyway.
David Wright: 34:54
I cheated on that one. Honda, born September 24. Puppy still Three, three, four months old, wow. Mixed breed, female. She'll be about 50 pounds. Dog friendly, yes. Kid friendly, yes. Activity level Medium high. Honda needs a home. Who's Honda? Oh, oh, look at that, I know she's adorable.
Matt Fox: 35:19
Isn't she? Oh my goodness. Look at that face it's a terrier mix. Look at the little toys that's a terrier mix puppy. Oh my goodness. Yeah, honda needs a home. Honda.
David Wright: 35:27
She's ready to go Get her tonight. Get her with who was our other puppy? I don't remember the name. That was Lily, lily. Yes, honda and Lily take them home together. Wouldn't that be a great family time tonight but anyway, honda needs a home. Detroit dog rescuecom slash adopt.
Announcer: 35:46
Check her out, do it. She needs a home. Do it.
David Wright: 35:48
Alrighty, folks, we will be back again Next episode with therapy, questions Q and a part three. In the meantime, change your thinking, change your life. Laugh hard, run, run fast. Be kind. We'll see you next time.