Swinging for Wellness: Golf and Therapy - Part 1

What happens when golf swings become a path to personal growth? Allow me to take you on a journey from late-night musings to exploring how the tranquility of the golf course blends with the therapeutic process. I’ll share how my own golfing journey, filled with laughs and lessons learned alongside my wife, inspired this unique perspective on mental health. You'll also hear about my dual passions for hypnosis and mentalism, including an intriguing trick that adds a magical twist to my performances, making prom and graduation season shows an unforgettable experience.

Together, we'll spotlight the transformative work of Dr. Singh in India, where the combination of sports, spirituality, and therapy offers a beacon of hope for individuals battling addiction. As the episode unfolds, imagine yourself on the golf course engaging in therapeutic conversations that build trust and understanding, all while improving your game. Plus, I’ll introduce you to Jet, the affectionate lab mix who’s eager to find a loving family. Join us for an engaging discussion that seamlessly combines entertainment and wellness, promising to enrich both mind and spirit.

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Transcript

David Wright: 0:00

In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast, we're going to do something a little bit unusual.

Announcer: 0:08

I'll tell you Matt.

David Wright: 0:09

Well, it's always unusual with us.

Announcer: 0:11

Right, beside the point Right.

David Wright: 0:12

But I was lying in bed last night and I'm thinking about golf because I'm playing golf.

Matt Fox: 0:17

You scared me for a second. Go on.

David Wright: 0:20

So I'm just kind of thinking, because oftentimes I'll think about my swing and kind of like, visualize it in my head, you know. And then I thought you know what? What if you could mix golf and therapy together? I'm sure you can. Well, that's what we're going to talk about today. I came up with the idea. I did some research online today, so we're going to talk about golf and therapy and how we might be able to put those two things together for people. I'm going to enjoy this Absolutely and, as usual, we'll give away free stuff. Hang in there, folks, we'll be right back.

Announcer: 0:50

This sounds like something for the authorities in Detroit. Well, joke's on you. I'm living to 102 and then dying, like the city of Detroit.

Matt Fox: 0:59

Guys like this can't take over here out of Detroit.

David Wright: 1:02

Spawn in the hellfires of Motown.

Announcer: 1:08

Take him to detroit. No, no, not detroit. No, no, please, anything with that. No, stationed in drambuie, it's worse than detroit. We did not have as a unit, the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat detroit. Let's go to detroit now. You're talking brother. I don't think so. He plays for Detroit now. Do they have many farms in Detroit?

Matt Fox: 1:31

Detroit to Michigan, I go to school.

Announcer: 1:35

I know where Detroit is. Get ready for the Motor City hypnotist, david R Wright. Originating from the suburbs of Detroit, michigan, he has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United.

Matt Fox: 1:45

States.

Announcer: 1:46

David R Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome to Motor City Hypnotist David R Wright.

David Wright: 2:21

What is going on, my friends? It is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist. We're back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast. Well, hello, hello, matt Fox. That's the other voice you hear. You know hanging out on a Monday evening doing a podcast.

Matt Fox: 2:35

It's been a week. It has been a week and things are good.

David Wright: 2:39

Yeah, I can't complain? No, it's okay. I mean we're a little chilly there beginning of last week or end of last week. I have opinions.

Matt Fox: 2:46

Yeah, all right, but we'll continue on.

David Wright: 2:49

Yeah, yeah. So we're here in the Palatial Podcast. Your voice, southfield Studios. Thank you Hanging out having a drink doing a podcast.

Matt Fox: 2:56

Yes.

David Wright: 2:56

Life is good.

Matt Fox: 2:57

Yeah, Absolutely Honestly. It's been quite the excursion.

David Wright: 3:01

Yes, absolutely so. Let me tell you first of all, folks, where you can find me. My website is MotorCityHypnotistcom. Check that out, especially if you're looking to book a show. We're getting really close to prom and grad season. We're only a couple months out, let's say two and a half months out. So if you need a show for your grad night or your post-prom party, now's the time to book. You can do it online. You can have a quote within minutes without talking to anyone. Now you can talk to somebody if you'd like, but we make it easy so that I know a lot of people are adverse to making phone calls. It's just kind of the way the world has gone in the past 20 years.

Matt Fox: 3:39

I don't want to talk to anybody.

David Wright: 3:40

Well, yeah, it's kind of like you know, if I can just type and not have to speak to someone, you know it might work out better. So anyway, check it out on the website MotorCityHypnotistcom. Also, I'm going to push a thing here that's kind of in process. So in the hypnosis world I've been to conventions and seminars and classes and networking with a bunch of other hypnotists. But there's a lot of crossover with hypnotists, magicians and mentalists. So if you've ever seen, do you know who Darren Brown is? Yes, yes, so he does a mix like his shows are a mix of magic, hypnosis and mentalism. So mentalism is kind of like mind reading, predictions, things like that. So I started doing adding mentalism shows to my act, to my hypnosis act, a couple of years ago. When I do fairs for a week and I'm doing multiple shows a day, I mix it up and do a mentalism show in the middle of that.

Matt Fox: 4:38

So is that it's like I feel I feel a P. I feel a P in the audience.

David Wright: 4:44

It's not like that. It's not cold reading like psychics would do. Okay, this is more like uh. Let me I'll give you an example of one of the one of the uh acts. Okay, it's, it's really just, it's a it's. I have a small notebook and in it it's filled with actors names, every actor like denzel washington.

Matt Fox: 5:05

Okay, tom hanks uh morgan freeman, do you lead them down a path to?

David Wright: 5:09

pick. Well, no, here's the thing we ruffle through there. And they say stop at any one of them. I open it up. Let's say it's tom hanks, tom hanks, okay, good example. Let's say it's tom hanks. They say okay. So out of all these, you told me to stop where you stopped. Meanwhile, somebody else is holding a sealed envelope. They open the envelope, say it's Tom Hanks. They say okay. So out of all these, you told me to stop where you stopped. Meanwhile, somebody else is holding a sealed envelope. They open the envelope and it's Tom Hanks. It's Tom Hanks, okay. Yeah, fair enough.

David Wright: 5:34

And I can't, of course, reveal the secrets because that would ruin the fun. But the whole point is it's kind of a cool thing to have, especially with a smaller group of people, like five, ten people. A week I could come to your house and do a mentalism show, sure, all right. So check that out as well. The the website is in process right now, but, um, I'm gonna put a link to it on my motor city hypnotist site which will take you to that site if you want to book a mentalism show. Oh, fun, which is a little bit different than a hypnosis show, but kind of in the same genre You're branching out.

David Wright: 6:08

Yes, so we're giving you more opportunities. You can find me on social media on Facebook and YouTube, which are both Motor City Hypnotist, and on Snapchat, instagram and TikTok. For now, knock on wood at Motor City Hypno H-Y-P-N-O. Knock on wood at motor city hypno H Y P? N? O. And, as we've done, every episode going way back to number one text, the word hypnosis to 3, 1, 3, 800, 8, 5, 1, 0. Nope, to get your free hypnosis guide.

Announcer: 6:35

Okay.

David Wright: 6:35

And it will also give you a link to my Google page where you can leave a review, which would be greatly appreciated. Excuse me so again, text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510. That number will be in the show notes and it will also be on the website If you go to the website. That's the same phone number, all right, all right. The biggest thing wherever you're listening, whatever platform you're on, please connect, subscribe, link, join whatever it is on your platform and leave a review for the podcast. That that's really helpful and it helps us out.

Matt Fox: 7:06

All right, I like it. Alrighty, let's go. Is it time? It's time.

Announcer: 7:17

That's how winning is done.

Matt Fox: 7:19

All right, make me happy, let's go, let's see what we got.

David Wright: 7:23

This is funny Cause this is a story about a doctor and his name is Dr Singh. Dr, Singh is also the name of our psychiatrist at our office.

Matt Fox: 7:31

And Singh is spelled S-I-N-G-H.

David Wright: 7:32

Yes, All right, absolutely All right. Dr Singh is 91, but you wouldn't know it. He works all the time to improve the center, and plans to open a third location are moving right along. Plans to open a third location are moving right along. Okay, his method is contingent on transformation born from compassion and steady reinforcement. According to the Better India I think that's a publication Dr Singh was among the earliest doctored psychiatrists in independent India, but it was his time in the army fighting in the 1962 Indochina War that helped him understand the psyche behind addictions.

Matt Fox: 8:09

Okay, well, in wartime, the troops and the soldiers, they will gravitate to things that will help them forget about something that happened that day.

David Wright: 8:19

Well, it's a traumatic experience and you suffer from PTSD and all that. Army personnel are exposed to highly stressful situations. Long periods away from home can affect their mental health.

Matt Fox: 8:29

Real quick. This was in 1961. You said yeah what year?

David Wright: 8:34

was that that's when he served 1962 in the indo-china war he served in that.

Matt Fox: 8:39

So back then was it considered shell shock still oh, that's a good probably.

David Wright: 8:43

Was probably referred to as that. Yes, uh, army personnel are exposed to highly stressful situations. Long periods away from home can affect their mental health. Some even experience post-traumatic stress disorder. Okay, after combat and war, singh said so that fits right in.

David Wright: 8:58

At the Akpal Center in Punjab's Sangur District, singh has seen all kinds of addiction, from intravenous drug use to addiction to the fumes of whitener I'm assuming that's some sort of thinner paint, some sort of substance. Did you eat paint chips as a child? He even admitted a man who was addicted to the adrenaline shock from snake bites. Oh shit, yeah, that's getting a little extreme there. Wow, yeah, wow. In every case his method is the same Physical exercise, organized sports, yoga, medical treatment if needed, and introducing the concept of service inherent in his Sikh faith, without any room for haranguing or preachiness. Huh, haranguing meaning Harassing, like you know about people's beliefs or non-beliefs. Got it Criticizing, thank you.

David Wright: 9:49

Dr Singh believes that the root cause of addictions lies in certain experiences that the person has battled and that an eventual moral reckoning, either with themselves or with those who have harmed them, is the end goal of rehabilitation, remembering one patient admitted for injecting a mixture of substances that caused two separate marriages to fail. A mixture of medication, individual and group counseling and spiritual healing helped him through the withdrawal process. His withdrawal symptoms subsided, he gained six kilograms, his sleep and appetite improved and his mood became cheerful. He was discharged with advice for regular follow-up. Sing notes Today the former patient works in a factory, is happily married and has referred over 60 addicts from his area to this center. Wow, the Sikhs believe that to be born as a human as a result of first being born as let me let me read this as a kind of a convoluted sentence the Sikhs believe that to be born as a human is a result of first being born as every single other animal on earth once, and therefore that life is to be cherished and the fruits derived from it to be shared.

Matt Fox: 11:00

I thought you were going to say born female. No, we're all conceived female. But go on.

David Wright: 11:05

It's a fine starting point for any attitude towards healing addiction in society that the lives of addicts not only matter but are beautiful and endowed with purpose. So this guy's been doing great work in India, Again, helping countless people, countless of addicts, thousands of addicts recover, and again that's really through empathy, yoga and acts of service.

Matt Fox: 11:28

I love that.

David Wright: 11:29

Yeah, so anyway, thank you, dr Singh. Dr Singh, definitely winner of the week.

Matt Fox: 11:50

That's how winning is done. So it is there you go. So back to it. So how? How is your golf swing been progressing over the past couple?

David Wright: 11:53

of years. Okay, so let me, let me, let me catch up, because I've only been playing, not even three years yet. Total, yeah, you never played in your locker. Well, I can't say I've never played, like never swung, a club before. Okay, I went once with my dad when I was like 15. I was in a couple of um, uh, couple of of charity events where I just went and you hacked away, hacked away.

David Wright: 12:19

So, so, no, I I mean, yes, I have golfed before, but single digits, like maybe five times total in my life. So I just started two and a half years ago. Let's place it, cause it was, it was two summers ago. This, this summer, will be the third summer golfing.

Matt Fox: 12:33

And you did this in conjunction with your lovely bride, I did so my wife started this.

David Wright: 12:39

She said I want to learn to play golf. And I'm like, oh, that's a cool thing. Yeah, go do that. So she started going out and she would go out on her own on her days off because she worked for me at the time. So she said I'm golfing today. I'm like, all right, I'll see you this afternoon, whatever.

David Wright: 12:55

And then she started beating me on the course she started and then I thought you know what I think this would be a good thing for us to do together to kind of, you know, strengthen our relationship and have that additional bond fair, you know which, which is great. So. So, overall, I started, let's say, two and a half years ago and again, just starting, I was a hack. My scores were like one 20, one 130. I mean, on a nine hole, no, no, thank goodness it was 18, but you know what I'm saying I do, yeah, it just. And here's the other thing when I first started, that first summer, I had to buy four sleeves of golf balls just to finish 18 holes. Only four. Good for you, I mean at minimum, because at some point I I I remember distinctly certain times leaving at like hole 12 because I was out of balls.

David Wright: 13:41

Oh my goodness, dude, yeah, what the hell so I have been to an in all total transparency. I it's not like I've figured all this out. I've been taking lessons consistently for the last couple years, right, so my handicap when I ended last summer was right around 18. Okay, and I feel like this last few months. It's kind of and I don't want to brag Kendra would probably laugh at me, but she's not listening at this point, right now.

David Wright: 14:10

But so my golf guy said hey, I said your swing is getting to the point where we might want to look at, you know, upgrading your clubs, because my irons are 30 years old, right, they've been in a basement in a bag for for years.

Matt Fox: 14:23

So you, you got new irons and new clothes. I haven't got new irons. Oh, you haven't.

David Wright: 14:26

No, I'm still using these 30 year old irons. All right, so that, so getting so so my golf guy said I think it's time for you to get a pair, to have you fitted for clubs that are going to work with your swing, work better with your swing.

Matt Fox: 14:39

My hand is up. Yes, so the irons, the clubs you've been playing on, and we'll get to the therapy side here in a second. But when you get fitted for new clubs, your swing is going to change again. Yes, and you have to remember that.

David Wright: 14:58

I'm preparing you now for success.

Matt Fox: 14:59

I know because you're you're used to what you have now and these new clubs are going to one. Change your game, change your swing, and you're going to not play well for a while.

David Wright: 15:07

So so until I learn more with those and I understand that there there's and here's the thing, and and my golf guy said this numerous times so listen, everybody golf guys said this numerous times so listen, everybody wants to score well, but if you're only thinking of score, you're missing the mechanics that get you to score Right. So you you can't put the cart in front of the horse. Your scores will improve when your swing gets better. So most people try to focus on hitting the ball, which that's what you do in golf. Sure, and it's, and it's kind of counterintuitive, because it doesn't matter, the ball doesn't matter, your swing is what matters. Once you put the ball in front of the swing, then it works. So let me ask you this question.

Matt Fox: 15:42

Yes, you just talking about this for the last five minutes. Yeah, was that therapeutic for you?

David Wright: 15:47

Yeah, kind of yeah, because I feel like I'm making progress. I feel like I can actually go to a golf course and look respectable Sure and look respectable Sure Like my swing actually looks, like I know what I'm doing.

Matt Fox: 15:59

But the loud shorts and the loud shirt, you don't care about any of that. Oh no, I do all that, All right, good.

David Wright: 16:04

I got some fuchsia pink shorts that I wear.

David Wright: 16:08

Fan-freaking-tastic David Love it yes, oh, no, fashion is all part of it. Yeah, I'll wear whatever you know. So the I'll wear whatever you know. So the whole point of this is that I this is something that's my escape, it's something that this is my self care thing. Yeah, now how are we going to connect this to therapy? We're talking about golf, and many of you may not be golfers. That's fine. It could be something that you maybe you've always wanted to try, but it's kind of an. It's an intimidating game to learn.

Matt Fox: 16:43

It's. While intimidating is a word to use, aggravating is the more proper word because, yes, everyone has to start somewhere when it comes to trying something new, but again, there's a commitment to it, and when it comes to therapy, you need to commit. So go on, sorry.

David Wright: 16:56

I just had to get my two cents. So, looking at golf and and again, mm-hmm, what I was thinking about lying in bed last night. We might play a game and we can talk, but what that does when you play something that's competitive whether it's a board game or golf or anything you get to see people's true reactions come out Right, whether it's anger, frustration, happiness, whether they feel like they're having fun learning, or if they feel like it's just oh, I don't like this. So you can read a lot into behaviors when you're playing a game. I have one word for you.

Matt Fox: 18:03

Yes Uno.

David Wright: 18:04

Yeah, right.

Matt Fox: 18:06

That'll bring out the worst Absolutely.

David Wright: 18:09

Especially when you hit with a draw, for you know depending on how you play the game you know, draw two.

Matt Fox: 18:14

No, draw two no draw two. No draw two right and then you continue to build it up until it gets to draw 10, and then the person that doesn't have the next draw two draws 10.

David Wright: 18:22

Yeah, go on yeah so when I was thinking about this, I thought, wow, I wonder if it would be feasible to pull like like therapy and connect it with golf somehow. So I did some research today while I was at work and there are some not many like I pulled up and probably there are probably six or eight articles on the front page of Google. Second page went to something totally different. There's not a lot. There's not a lot of data there, but I have read about some people who are using golf in conjunction with therapy.

Matt Fox: 18:57

It's not the worst idea in the world. In Michigan you can only really practice this outside eight months of the year, Right.

David Wright: 19:06

Comfortably. Now we could do it indoors Now and again. There's some logistics and some questions, and we'll get into that, because people are first of all going to say, well, what aboutAA guidelines? Because you're out in public, right, and you're talking, so you know and and I always tell clients, in fact their clients sometimes like, especially when the weather's nice we'll, we'll do a walking session. I love that. We'll walk around the block and talk because get out, get some exercise, sure, get moving. But I always, always tell them listen, we're out, so I can't guarantee no one will overhear you.

David Wright: 19:38

So, just as far as confidentiality goes, you need to be aware of your surroundings. You got to prepare them, yes, absolutely. So the same thing would apply to this. So why would we even want to pair golf with therapy? So here's the thing when you go out to do something whether it's golf and we can probably generalize to other activities and you go out and you just want to have fun with your buddies or your or your girlfriends, you go out, you spend three, four hours on the golf course, you have a drink or two, you have fun, um, and it's just a way to kind of get away and just enjoy being outside, being with other people playing a game. Whether you play it well or not, that's kind of not as important.

Matt Fox: 20:25

Brian Regan stand-up comic. Yeah, one of his stand-ups it's called the Epitome of Hyperbole, and he went golfing. He told a story about going golfing with a friend of his who had just gotten a divorce. And he got home afterwards and his wife his brian's wife asked him so how's gary? He's like he's fine, because you're out on the golf course, you should be talking to one another and it's like um, are you, are you dating anyone? Oh god, it's so funny the stand-up, because when you're on the golf course you typically don't talk about personal issues. But if the therapy is directed to help somebody through personal issues, and it's a therapist and the patient doing it, Right.

David Wright: 21:10

And the expectation is that we're going to be talking during while we're playing Right because you're out with your buddies.

Matt Fox: 21:15

You're not going to ask them oh, how's the divorce going? Well, that's really not going to be a topic of discussion. You're going to be talking about whatever news story and whatever executive order just got signed. It's not going to go towards therapy with your buddies, but if a therapist is involved at the same time, that's brilliant.

David Wright: 21:35

Sure, I love that, yeah, yeah, I think I think it's a good theory, I think it's a good thing to to kind of look at, um, so, so, really. And then, even when you're out golfing and you said, typically you don't get into personal things, but if you're with friends or people you play with all the time, people you trust you're probably, you're probably going to talk about things, right, I mean, think about it, you're together for four hours playing golf, right, you're gonna, you're gonna resolve things, so. So it gives us space to communicate without pressure of being in like a social setting or or like you're trapped in an office. And I say that, and I I don't want to say people are trapped when they come to therapy, but no, sometimes, you know, being in a room for an hour, sometimes that can overwhelm people. Sure, yeah, the other thing golf does it trains us to be better communicators. Follow me on this.

David Wright: 22:28

Whether it's about your game, whether it's about issues, whatever it is, it's just conversation just happens naturally, because you're in a social situation, you're doing an activity, so it's not like you're just sitting and facing each other. There are no awkward pauses, there's no struggle to talk to each other. It just makes it more relaxing, and even if you play with strangers, the conversation from the first hole to the 18th is totally different. Well, yeah, because you're getting to know people and you're going to and, and that it just becomes easier the longer you with them Let me ask you this question.

Matt Fox: 23:01

Yeah, when you're out on the course, do you typically just play with Kendra, just you and your wife together, or will you partner up with another couple, do it and make it a foursome if you will?

David Wright: 23:16

It depends. Partner up with another couple, do it and make it a foursome if you will. It depends um some courses they'll assign. If you're a twosome, they'll assign you to a two, so okay, so we've done that before, okay, which is totally fine.

Matt Fox: 23:21

But what if you would challenge yourself to say you know what?

David Wright: 23:26

I want to be paired with somebody I don't know now I have done this on the golf course like if I because a lot of times I'll go by myself, I'll just be a Sure. Typically you can't do it on the weekends on most courses because they don't want to you know, throw a single player.

David Wright: 23:38

But oftentimes I'll go and start off as a single and there'll be like two guys ahead of me or two guys behind me or a threesome ahead of me, and I'll be like, hey, you just want to hit with us, I'll be like sure I'll numerous times where I just jump into a group and play the round with them.

David Wright: 23:55

So, yeah, that's great. And when you're out and again other than we're going to get into the game itself as far as the emotions attached to that in a moment so there is an episode two. Oh, no, no, there will be an episode two for sure. So it just helps you. It's easier to talk when you're doing an activity. That's the whole point of it. I love this conversation and you can build relationships and develop trust and communication skills. All of that happens when you're with people for four hours, Right?

Matt Fox: 24:26

How far are you out About a buck 30. I think I'm going to play my seven iron, are you sure? Yeah?

David Wright: 24:33

You just hit your 790 on the last hole exactly. I mean, yeah, yeah, get out your putter. So, folks, we're going to continue on with part two of therapy and golf, mixing them together. Or you can say golf and therapy either way, doesn't? It works both ways therapy and social activities? Yep, absolutely so. So we can expand this, not just for golf. I'm just using golf because it's an example I was thinking of.

David Wright: 24:56

I love and definitely we're going to focus more on this and I'm going to give you some more reasons how this might be able to work for you in a therapeutic setting.

Matt Fox: 25:04

Okay, dependent on their, their, their sports skillset absolutely all right. So before we go, oh yes, oh yes. Who is? Somebody needs a home? Who?

David Wright: 25:13

is. Let's see who we can do first we're going to do. Jet is first Jet. Jet is a lab mix. He's neutered. He's 50 pounds full. He will be 50 pounds full grown. Okay, he was born in June of 2024.

Announcer: 25:26

So he's nine months old.

David Wright: 25:29

Dog friendly yes. Friendly yes. Kid-friendly yes. Activity level is medium-high. Cat-friendly Cat-friendly unknown. It's always unknown because they probably have never spent time with cats.

Matt Fox: 25:37

True but you said it's a lab mix. Yeah, He'll be fine, he'll be fine.

David Wright: 25:42

Yeah, but this is Jet.

Matt Fox: 25:44

Aw.

David Wright: 25:45

Black lab mix at that Geez.

Matt Fox: 25:49

Look at those eyeballs. I know he's no he's just staring at your soul is what he's doing. Jet needs a home. Let me get a closer look, you take a look. Ah, I do I've. I've grown up with a lot of labs in my life. Oh yeah, and yeah, he's a.

David Wright: 26:03

He's adorable, I almost he's a little big, a beagle in there a little bit, huh yeah. So jet, jet is ready to go home. He's ready right now. Look at that. You're going to say no to that face? I have to no.

Matt Fox: 26:18

I know you have, I have to also.

David Wright: 26:19

But DetroitDogRescuecom slash adopt. Thank you. Jet's ready to go home. Pick him up. All right, we'll be back next episode with Golf and Therapy, part 2. Those of you on Facebook Live stick around, we're doing one more show. Those of you listening to audio, whatever platform you're on, jump ahead to the next episode. Or, if it's not there, it'll be there on Tuesday or Thursday. Yes, it will. All right, folks, in the meantime, change your thinking, change your life. Laugh hard, run fast, be kind.

Announcer: 27:04

We'll see you next time, thank you.