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Psychic Therapist? - Guest Morrigan Salatrik - Pt. 2 - Episode 301

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The realms of traditional therapy and spiritual healing aren't as separate as many believe. In this enlightening follow-up conversation with Morrigan Salatrik, we explore the powerful intersection of conventional therapeutic techniques with pranic healing, Reiki, and psychic medium work.

Morrigan shares her unique approach to therapy, emphasizing the importance of meeting clients exactly where they are spiritually. Rather than imposing beliefs or trying to "convert" skeptics, she builds therapeutic relationships based on authentic connection and respect. "I don't have to prove what I do, and you don't have to prove that to me either," she explains, highlighting how this foundation of mutual respect enables deeper healing.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn as we delve into dream interpretation and its therapeutic value. Morrigan illuminates how common dream symbols—snakes representing transition, water symbolizing emotions, dreams of death indicating endings and beginnings—provide windows into our subconscious processing. "When we are going through change and transition, we're kind of like the scab that you want to scratch too soon before it's ready to heal," she observes, offering profound insight into resistance to change.

Perhaps most compelling is Morrigan's perspective on the scientific basis for spiritual concepts. "Science says you can't destroy energy," she notes, connecting this principle to beliefs about the soul's persistence after physical death. This bridge between science and spirituality offers common ground for both skeptics and believers, suggesting that different frameworks—religious, scientific, or spiritual—may ultimately describe the same human experiences through different lenses.

Whether you're spiritually inclined or simply curious about expanding your understanding of mental wellness approaches, this episode offers valuable insights into holistic healing that addresses mind, body, and spirit as interconnected elements of the whole self. As Morrigan puts it, "Therapy should be more than just a physical change—there has to be spiritual change. There has to be something that happens inside."

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David Wright: 0:00

In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast we're back with our special guest, morgan Silatric. We're going to do another episode. I'm sure there are a lot of questions many of you may have out there. I'll try to get to them as best I can. Yeah, we're going to get into, you know, again talking more about pranic healing and Reiki and psychic medium, all of those things and how that can benefit you if it's somebody who thinks they need a I don't know spiritual healing of some type. And again, we're at episode 301 as of right now. So we've just hit our 300 mark Time to celebrate. So stick around, we'll be right back.

Announcer: 0:39

This sounds like something for the authorities in Detroit. Well, joke's on you. I'm living to 102 and then dying at the city of Detroit.

David Wright: 0:47

Guys like this can't take over here. Out of Detroit Spawned in the hellfires of Motown, take him to Detroit.

Announcer: 0:56

No, no, not Detroit, no, no, please Anything, but that no, stationed in Drambuie, it's worse than detroit. We did not have, as a unit, the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat detroit. Let's go to detroit now. You're talking brother. I don't think so. He plays for detroit now do?

Morrigan Salatrik : 1:18

they have many farms in detroit detroit to michigan I go to school, I know where det is.

Announcer: 1:23

Get ready for the Motor City hypnotist, david R Wright. Originating from the suburbs of Detroit, michigan, he has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome the Motor City Hypnotist, david R Wright.

David Wright: 2:10

What is going on, my friends? This is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist, and we're back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast. We're hanging out here in the palatial podcast your voice, southfield Studios, hanging out on a Monday evening doing a podcast, and we have a special guest along too. So more of the merrier. Let me tell you, folks, where you can find me. My website is motorcityhypnotistcom. You're, if you're in a parent committee or looking for a show, especially for prom night or grad night, time's running out. It's getting really close. Actually, morgan and I have both done late night parties. We actually ran into each other. Was it last year or the year before?

Morrigan Salatrik : 2:52

Two years ago. Two years ago.

David Wright: 2:53

Was that Algonac?

Morrigan Salatrik : 2:54

It was. It was yes. Okay, when they were looking for a hypnotist, I got the right one for you, right?

David Wright: 3:00

Yeah, and it worked out great. They loved it. So, yes, check out the website. You can actually get a quote within minutes. You can reserve your night and put your deposit down. You can have all that done within minutes. Go to the website MotorCityHypnotistcom slash shows. You can find me on social media Facebook and YouTube are both Motor City Hypnotist, and on Snapchat, instagram and TikTok are all Motor City Hypnotist, and on Snapchat, instagram and TikTok are all Motor City Hypno. That is H-Y-P-N-O.

David Wright: 3:30

And, as we've done, going all the way back to episode number one as opposed to episode 300 and 301, text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510 for your free hypnosis guide. It's a PDF I wrote. It kind of gives you a brief overview of what hypnosis is, what it's not, dispel some myths and misconceptions. It will also give you a link to leave a review and it would be much appreciated if you leave a review of the podcast of a show, if you've seen me in person, of a session if you've had, if you've seen me individually. All of that goes to the same place. So it'd be greatly appreciated if you leave that review. And the big thing those of you listening to audio, whatever platform you're on Apple, itunes, stitcher, spotify, wherever your podcast is, please leave a review and rate it, because that helps us again get more people and grow the show. All righty, it is time for our winner of the week. That's how winning is done, all righty.

David Wright: 4:36

This story comes from China. I know a lot of times we have local stories or national stories, but this one was really good so I had to get this one. Millions of his Chinese countrymen have taken to social media to applaud the moment this kindergarten security guard began to waltz with a child who was left behind by her mom. That day, the guard, named Liu Ji, saw the mother of one girl at a kindergarten in eastern Shanghai province, was late picking her up. The five-year-old nicknamed Little Peach, was upset and Liu, who studied classical and contemporary dance in his youth, knew just how to cheer her up. I want you to go home happy and your mother will not feel guilty anymore. He wrote in a video on his Chinese TikTok account. He was so fleet that her feet barely touched the floor as the former professional dancer led the girl in a twirling waltz, but probably because he was holding her at the time. Liu started working at a small kindergarten eight years ago as a security guard.

David Wright: 5:43

Lou started working at a small kindergarten eight years ago as a security guard. Reportedly a workaholic, he got this job because he loves children and because he lives in Shandong taking care of his elderly parents while his wife manages the family business. Lou abandoned his dancing career in 1993 after an economic liberalization created a craze of business startups. Lou succeeded and his wife and children live in I'm going to mess up these names Guangzhou managing it. Okay, it's a city. Guangzhou Reporter Fran Liu, who shared the man's story in South China Morning Post, wrote that he remembers the name of every child and parent who comes to pick them up, responsible for greeting and seeing off kids in front of the kindergarten every day.

David Wright: 6:29

His love of children can be explained simply I love kids for a simple reason If you treat them sincerely, they will treat you with the same sincerity. Lou said An elegant man and a giggling baby. What a great picture. One of the comments left on the video read an interesting soul shines anywhere, no matter what job they do. Another man wrote that's the story. That's the end of the story. But anyway, what that there's actually a picture of. If the link will be in the show notes, take a look, the link. There are photos of him holding this kid and dancing with her while she waits for her mother to pick her up. So again, great story, definitely.

Announcer: 7:19

That's how winning is done.

David Wright: 7:21

Yes, it is. So back to it. All right, we are back with Morgan morgan salatrick. This is episode number two we've been talking a little bit about. I'm going to throw words out and they might not be in order in the right way. Reiki and and uh pranic, healing and uh psychic medium psychic medium.

David Wright: 7:41

Yeah, there's a lot of things and for a lot things. So let me start out as we kind of get into this episode. Morgan, what do you say to people? Because I want to address this, because I just want to get people to understand. But what about somebody who comes in and says, oh, I don't believe in that shit? Do you try to get them won over or do you try to, like, convince them?

Morrigan Salatrik : 8:07

I like to meet my client where they're at okay and we don't have to prove ourselves to other people and right yes, yes I don't have to prove. Prove it right what I do, and you don't have to prove that to me either. Right when you are, when you have that respect for someone, you meet them where they're at. You're just there to hear them out. You don't have to try to push an argument at them, because you feel? Like they're wrong. Right Because they have their own beliefs and that's their own reality right there.

David Wright: 8:38

Well, and that's a good point, because if you said you're wrong immediately, you're going to have a block as far as communication or even receptiveness of them getting something out of this.

Morrigan Salatrik : 8:49

Right, right, there You're. You just yeah, you just ruined that therapeutic relationship.

David Wright: 8:54

Yeah, so if somebody and again, this is just a random, I don't have any anybody specific in mind, cause I don't know but but if somebody came in and they were kind of resistant, or just you, even though they're not aware of it, and I'm saying that in a sneaky way, or that you're kind of like bamboozling them, it's just part of what it would just like be anyone else. Let's go back to your term intuition.

David Wright: 9:23

I believe that most therapists kind of have a feeling of people and like I'll go back to the one thing and then you can tell your story, even the thing I mean. A lot of times I can tell when people are lying. I can just feel it. Yeah, I just know it. And I'm not saying I have gifts or anything, but they don't need to know that that. You know that Right, as a therapist, we wanted to help people, so they don't need to be privy to every single item or every little piece of what's going on.

Morrigan Salatrik : 9:55

Yeah, back in college, well doing the double masters, I had two techniques classes, two practicums two internships and in my initial techniques class as therapists, we have our supervisors and our teachers. When we're counseling with a client, we are in a small little room and there's windows that we can't see out of, but our supervisors- can see in to see how we are.

David Wright: 10:22

I remember that lab, I do yeah.

Morrigan Salatrik : 10:25

Yeah. So, um, I had a client and I was just doing my counseling and I kept I I could feel that he wasn't being completely honest, but that that's okay, I'm going to, you know, go with you, go with the flow, see where we're going to go with the these sessions. And he had. He was talking about an incident that had occurred and I actually saw what had happened and I knew he was lying about it.

David Wright: 10:49

Oh, okay.

Morrigan Salatrik : 10:50

And a criminal.

David Wright: 10:51

Oh, okay, okay, yes, yes, it was bad. And was the client the perpetrator?

Morrigan Salatrik : 10:56

Yes, Okay, yes, and was arrested for it and everything else, okay, okay.

Morrigan Salatrik : 10:59

And my after I left that session. Well, I was, the session was going really well, very smoothly, until I saw the image of what had happened. And then, you know, it shifted and the supervisor afterwards kind of called me into her office and she said, hey, I want to talk to you about, you know, that session. We were watching it. And I said Okay, and she said Were you afraid of, you know, your client? And I said no, and there was my assistant, it was my supervisor plus someone else that was watching this occur. And I said well, I need to be completely honest with you, with both of you. I said I'm a psychic medium, I see things, I know things and I've been holding this in throughout our techniques, because a lot of therapists are traditional therapists and they're not open to psychics and mediums. And when you think of, when you think of therapy, people think of okay, I'm laying on this couch and I have to yeah, I'm just talking and talking and talking.

Morrigan Salatrik : 12:00

Yes, and she's like you are use it, and I'm like okay, well, yeah, I mean okay, sure, just like okay, we just need to ask that, you know.

David Wright: 12:11

And then they had questions for me and I was like okay, so I think the best thing about that story is the supervisor saying use it like they were encouraging and accepting of it, because I mean, we know the curmudgeons that are been doing this for 50 years would be like that's not. That's not therapy technique.

David Wright: 12:31

I mean, maybe they're traditional Freudians or something you know what I mean, but even that, but even Freud's all of the subconscious and this id and ego and superego. It's just another name for spirituality and it all ends up being the same pot of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Right and dream analysis and all that Right right, so that's interesting, since you mentioned it and I didn't have this as a question. But as far as, do you work with clients if they're dreaming or if they're saying something? I mean, do you focus on that?

Morrigan Salatrik : 13:06

We will.

David Wright: 13:07

So let me ask this because again, just as I'll pretend, I'm a layperson coming into this, well, what do my dreams say about me? Like, how can we read into those? What does that mean?

Morrigan Salatrik : 13:18

Well, first I'm going to ask them what do you think it means? Okay, I'll give you the stock response.

David Wright: 13:24

Oh, it's just ramblings of my subconscious mind. There's no rhyme or reason, it's just a rambling, incoherent blob of stuff just coming out of my subconscious.

Morrigan Salatrik : 13:34

Well, there's all this water and I was dreaming I was drowning and this and that Well water's about your emotions. And oh well, as I was down this river, I ran into this rock Okay, here's a blockage. Or then I'll be like, well, let's Google what this rock symbolizes. Let's Google what this means.

David Wright: 14:00

Let's look into the symbolism.

Morrigan Salatrik : 14:01

So then that way, they actually are putting the energy and effort into learning about their own dreams as well. And as we are working together collaboratively, we are figuring out there and they're like, oh, that makes so much sense now with what's going on in my life, and if we, if that client is one that's working on intuition development or they're open because they are that type of, they have their own gifts, then we just cleared through a huge block. Yeah, you know.

David Wright: 14:18

Yeah, absolutely yes, so. So so if if I were to come to you and say you know, I have this recurring dream and I'm not saying you can interpret all of it, but but but are there, are there like consistent themes that run run among different clients?

Morrigan Salatrik : 14:34

It depends. You know you have a lot with water snakes, which is about transition.

David Wright: 14:38

Oh, okay.

Morrigan Salatrik : 14:39

What happens in a snake? They outgrow their skin right.

David Wright: 14:42

Right.

Morrigan Salatrik : 14:43

And so we are kind of remaining stuck right. We me clients you know we tend to if we're not looking at it and looking at it as a journey, you know we are. They're getting stuck on. Well, what does it? I'm afraid of the snake. Well, you're afraid of transition. You are afraid of change, afraid of the pain to let go of the past because snakes outgrow the skin.

David Wright: 15:09

Yeah.

Morrigan Salatrik : 15:09

And so then, well, what happens when we are going through change and transition? We're kind of like the scab that you want to scratch it too soon before it's ready to heal. Well, you heal from the inside out, not the outside in. So you know snakes, and like our own human healing, we outgrow the past and we want to scratch it too soon.

David Wright: 15:30

And then it bleeds again, right? You just open it up and you keep opening it up, right?

Morrigan Salatrik : 15:35

And it's almost like a transition or a seed being planted and all you see is darkness, and the next thing you know you're a beautiful flower. What does that period look like? Right, a lot of times in the healing journey we think it's just darkness. Right, but really it's not. Things are happening. We think it's just darkness, but really it's not. Things are happening. We just don't see it, or it doesn't feel right because you just learned all these new coping skills that you didn't have before and the ego says, okay, well, I'm stuck back in the beginning, but no, you're not. You're not stuck back at the beginning, you have new tools that you didn't have back then.

Morrigan Salatrik : 16:12

So it doesn't feel the same. What used to work but what now works doesn't feel safe either. So that transition, the snakes death right, people have dreams about death. Well, what?

Announcer: 16:25

does that mean?

Morrigan Salatrik : 16:27

Well, yes, potentially you could be dreaming of death, but more or less you are dreaming of a death within yourself, that transition like a change, closing out.

David Wright: 16:38

Well, and it's, and it is that I mean, cause there are some common dream themes. And again, freud was big on a lot of things, like you know your teeth falling out or being naked in a crowd.

David Wright: 16:47

I mean those are like common, you know, prototypical type dream scenarios. But but I think a lot of people, especially for, for an example, like if a client has the client one has dream, they dream, but but typically it's innocuous, it's happy, it's or it's or it's just generic client two, it's always nightmares, it's always negative and I don't for me and correct me if I'm wrong, it's, it's their perception. It's always nightmares, it's always negative and I don't for me and correct me if I'm wrong, it's their perception, it's not the actual dreams themselves.

Morrigan Salatrik : 17:19

Right, yes, it's all in perception, yeah absolutely Right.

David Wright: 17:23

So I mean they could be having the same dream. One person perceives it as oh, this is awful, and the other one's like this doesn't bother me.

Morrigan Salatrik : 17:30

Right, and you also have to think about, well, how do they cope with things, especially through trauma or a traumatic event, right, yeah, and if one person is more susceptible to trauma, after trauma, after trauma, and they're like, okay, well, I'm still a happy person, I know that this is. I don't want to internalize somebody else's experience as my own. I don't want to internalize somebody else's experience as my own. You know, how does that person cope throughout these events will determine. Well, are they having these dreams and their reaction to it? Is it fear based, right?

Morrigan Salatrik : 18:04

Right so if it's based more on fear and their negative coping patterns from the past, it's going to come up as a scary dream, right and or especially, as I'm not ready for this. And when you have that dream, it's telling you up as a scary dream, right or especially, as I'm not ready for this. And when you have that dream, it's telling you yes, you are, because what you're doing is you're holding on to the pain. You are here for healing, but yet you still want to hold on to it.

David Wright: 18:29

So you're blocking, but you're also not opening up to receiving. Well, and we know, in general people have comfort in what they know, even if what they know is bad or negative or self-destructive. It's just what they know, so that's just what they're comfortable with. Yeah, they know a lot of meditation and mindfulness. And how do we learn about ourselves? We have to sit their own.

Morrigan Salatrik : 19:12

Yeah, I incorporate a lot of meditation and mindfulness. And how do we learn about ourselves? We have to sit with ourselves right and if my clients are more on a spiritual basis. What are they doing? They are connecting to their self, connecting to their higher self, connecting to source energy God, whatever they believe in, and they learn about themselves that way. They can heal themselves that way, because they are allowing divine energy source energies you know, whatever you want to call it.

Morrigan Salatrik : 19:41

They're allowing that in while they meditate, and they're also learning to feel what their body feels like sitting still and learn how to navigate right that way.

David Wright: 19:52

So so if somebody, let's say for an and I'll just try to think of somebody who might be a difficult client, not that I want to put you on the spot or anything, but let's say somebody is very, very like like I'm trying to think of a good word for it Very religious, but but in a very specific sense, like I'm definitely like like born again Christian, or I'm definitely, um, uh, buddhist, or I'm definitely something else, the spiritual part that that that's all based on them. You can, that still works the same way.

Morrigan Salatrik : 20:28

It's just what their spirit is or what their higher power is Right, and I love learning about new cultures and I have clients that are all different cultures all different religions and tell me more about it, right? So then that way. I can help guide you with whatever you are bringing into the session, not what I'm bringing to you spiritually.

David Wright: 20:47

Well, because and the reason I bring that up because, again, I was raised in a Baptist church. I went to Christian college, so there's a lot of spirituality, but it's not like stuck on one, it's kind of expanded since I've aged. It's a lot different now as compared to when. I was like 15, know it's a lot different now as compared to when I was like 15, if that makes sense yeah, and. I and I feel like it's it's. It's just more, it's more open. That's the best way I can describe it.

Morrigan Salatrik : 21:14

Yeah, a lot of clients, a lot of my clients, are on the spiritual journey and you know, like like you I. You know, I grew up Catholic.

Announcer: 21:22

I grew up going.

Morrigan Salatrik : 21:24

I man, I used to go to all different churches and friends and, okay, well, you have to go to church. Oh, I'm fine with going to church with you. Baptist church, protestant Lutheran Um, I spent about four months in a Buddhist temple in college.

Announcer: 21:40

Um, just learning about the Buddhist Buddhism and you know.

Morrigan Salatrik : 21:41

I've learned about Hinduism. I've learned about, um, you know, paganism and earth-based practices. Some people they're like well, my, my church is just sitting outside in the you know having a cup of coffee or cup of tea and just closing my eyes, and you know connecting to you know, having the sun warm me up and just close my eyes for a minute. Okay, yeah, you know it's just whatever you make of it right and well, I want to connect, you know, combine this with my, with myself. What walking sessions right?

Announcer: 22:07

yeah, we do a lot of walking sessions. You and I will go to the park right and you know nature.

Morrigan Salatrik : 22:12

Nature's my therapy nature is um nature's my religion or you know whatever, whatever it is, and you know they do say hug a tree, right I do that. I'll go to the park and I'll hug a tree and I do feel better, yeah, you know um, because without trees we wouldn't have life in itself, right, right. Science says that.

David Wright: 22:31

No, no, absolutely, You're absolutely right, and even that that people just don't get it. I mean, I'm talking something as simple as, like you know, kendra and I just picked up golf a few years ago. But with golf, you're outside for four hours straight, you're on the grass, you're around trees I'm in the trees a lot with golfing but you are outside experiencing environment, experiencing nature. I mean, numerous times we've been on golf courses and deer will just walk across the fairway.

Morrigan Salatrik : 23:02

You know, it's just, it's more of an experience than just playing a sport if that makes sense, and being outside just takes you back to the basics or being a kid and when things are more simple, I guess yeah, Right. Well, when we're kids?

David Wright: 23:19

we don't know enough to be overwhelmed for the most part. Yeah Right, so for you. So here's the big thing, and I know we're close here, but I want to give people an opportunity. If they want to reach out and even make an appointment to see Morgan, you can reach her at our office and you can get that through the Facebook page. Counseling and Therapy Associates that Facebook page or the website there. Therapy associates that facebook page or the website there. Um, and I also also have her information in the show notes. So for clients who are interested in in seeing you, do you suggest that they come, that they prepare in any way, no, no just walk in just walk in.

Morrigan Salatrik : 24:02

You know no sense in preparing, because now you already have the set idea preconceived notion of what you're going to be? Yeah, Right and I'm going to be genuine in my sessions.

David Wright: 24:11

Right.

Morrigan Salatrik : 24:12

And if I, you know, if you're the type of person that you know swears and everything else you know, how can I expect you to open up to me and me to open up to you if I am being closed?

David Wright: 24:21

off or I?

Morrigan Salatrik : 24:22

can't be myself, Right? So I'm going to be right with you. I might be, you know, cussing or whatever it is. I am going to meet you where you're at.

David Wright: 24:31

That way, you know, we connect that therapeutic relationship and, you know, just start diving deeper into you know, whatever it is, and correct me if I'm wrong on your opinion, but I feel like this is I don't want to say it's an untapped market, I think, for actual therapists. I feel like this is a rarity With what I do.

David Wright: 25:00

Yes, with what you do oh yeah, because I know a lot of life coaches who have this experience, but it's not the same to me as far as just really getting in there. You know what I'm saying. I feel like therapy is different from coaching. I don't know if you'd agree with that or not.

Morrigan Salatrik : 25:21

I think so. Yeah, yeah, therapy you're diving into Okay. Well, how did this start? Why is it that when I get triggered with my spouse, I am now the six-year-old girl, or five-year-old? Well, it's because we are allowing those younger versions to come through and, as a therapist, we know how to dig at that information and pull it out. And being a psychic medium.

David Wright: 25:53

I just feel like I have this different perception added to it as well. Yeah, so, yeah. So those of you who are interested again, definitely reach out. Yeah, I know for a lot of you it might be like, oh, it's a bunch of hooey, but the whole thing is and I've said this because I remember distinctly, I'll tell you a quick 10-second story.

David Wright: 26:13

I had a client way back I was working with them for two or three sessions and one of the guy. The guy was seeing a gentleman and he says, well, what do you know? And I'm like, well, I'm not, I'm not sure the question. He said, well, what have you been through that you can help me? And I said I'm a human being, I was born, I've had experiences. He says, yeah, but you haven't been through what I've been through. And I'm like but I don't have to be, I don't have to have gone through what you've gone through. I've gone through my own things. So I'm not here to give you a roadmap, point by point, on how to get there, because every person's different, but I've had struggles as a human being, just like you have struggles. They might be different but we still struggle and that's the commonality. So I think people who kind of shoot down possibilities.

David Wright: 27:08

And I've said this, a lot of people come in to see me for hypnosis. Now I'll give you another good example. Somebody comes in, says, yeah, I want to quit smoking. I'm like that's great, I'm glad, that's great for you. You'll feel better physically, you feel like you've achieved something. And they said, well, should I use the patch also, or should I use some Nicorette gum? Now? Should I use the patch also, or should I use some Nicorette gum? Now? They just threw doubt in it and I just said let's use all the tools we have. Whatever you think is going to help you. That is what we should do. So there's no one way you have to take from all sources to help yourself, right? So this is kind of a good example of that. That somebody might be skeptical, but if you just come in with an open mind, that could be very beneficial.

Morrigan Salatrik : 27:55

And the psychic, medium portion of it. It's like those that believe that we have a soul. Well, science says you can't destroy energy. So what happens when you pass away to your soul?

David Wright: 28:03

Yeah, Right, it's the energy.

Morrigan Salatrik : 28:04

So science says, okay, you can't destroy energy. Then you have religion that says, well, all religions are different, right, right. So on what the soul can be reincarnated and this and that. But in every religion, in some form, the energy moves on to somewhere or something, right, right, and you have people that you can talk about that in your sessions, or I talk about that, my sessions, but also you walk into a room and you're like, oh, there's so and so, but that energy doesn't feel right, or so what are you doing?

Morrigan Salatrik : 28:39

you are actually connecting more with their soul energy on a psychic level than you are on the actual physical person you're going to leave the room or this person's really happy. I really love their energy. I'm going to be attracted to it. Well, you know, what are we as humans? We are the container, kind of like this bottle right, it's the container, but what is actually in it? Water? Yeah what happens without the container? It's still water yeah where does it go?

Announcer: 29:05

yeah right it has to go somewhere right, and there's more to it.

Morrigan Salatrik : 29:08

You know like the soul is actually a larger piece, which is, you know how you can actually feel someone from a distance you know it's a larger piece of you. Right body's only a small piece. So some people say your soul is actually inside your body, but you know there's other. Well, I mean, then we get into auras and and, and, and yeahuras because that is external Right.

Morrigan Salatrik : 29:29

And how can you see colors? How can you feel somebody else's energy? How is it that people can see spirits? I was able to see spirits as a young kid, but I hear it too. And then you have the mental health aspect to it. Clients will say, well, I've had this traditional therapist. They put me on these meds and it turns out they were actually medium. And I've had that with one of my clients.

David Wright: 29:52

CTA. Yes, and that is the drawback. And again, I always this has developed over years. I didn't, you know, I started as a you know, my first day in therapy way back when. But I've gotten to the point now where I even say to clients I'm like listen, medication could help. But that is not an answer. That's never going to fix anything. It's just going to help you get through what you're going through. But eventually we have to get to the source, and the medication doesn't resolve the source, it just kind of masks it, it kind of just gets you through it. That's not the answer, right?

Morrigan Salatrik : 30:33

You have to use them both together. That with counseling, Just like any other medical condition. Oh, I take this medicine, but this causes headaches. So now you're taking this or this causes that.

David Wright: 30:42

Or I take this medication. It causes weight gain, so I need to work out more. So you still have to take action. Yeah, a substance is not going to resolve the issue. Yeah, you still have to do something. I, you know we could do this again. Let's do it again Because because I mean there there's I'm sure there's so much I mean people probably have a lot of questions and we may get that. You know, as as the show airs, we may get some questions. So, yeah, let's do this again in a few months.

David Wright: 31:10

Just kind of re hook up, if you're up to it. Yes, yeah, I am too. So before we go I know we're close to the end here Somebody needs a home. This one is Noodle. Noodle, aw, noodle. Oh wait, let me get that. Let oh wait, let me get those ears in. Look at that. So Noodle is a mixed breed. Oh no, I'm sorry, he's Staffordshire Terrier mix, which I don't really know of that dog. He's about three years old or four years old. He was born in 2021, three to four years old. It's a spayed female. 50 pounds, dog-friendly, selective, kid-friendly, over 10, just to keep people aware of that. But yeah, noodle needs a home.

Morrigan Salatrik : 31:55

Aw.

David Wright: 31:56

So DetroitDogRescuecom slash adopt Noodle's. Your guy right there, all righty, let's thank Morgan for coming in. I appreciate you coming in and again being part of our office and I know, because there's a specific population that is drawn to this and that that's a which which makes sense because it's it's a therapy should be more than just a physical change. It has to be spiritual change. There has to be something that happens inside Right, and for this, that is kind of the route for a lot of people, or an option for a lot of people.

Morrigan Salatrik : 32:35

Yeah, I try to look at both well everything, the mind, body, spirit, all in one Right More holistic. Yeah, and you know, yes, I'll have my clients that are more traditional.

David Wright: 32:45

Sure, I just go with what they want, right, right, or maybe what they need, and sometimes they don't know what they need Right.

Morrigan Salatrik : 32:54

And I have had the traditional therapy session in the beginning and the next thing I know, six months later, they're like hey, I really want to work on this, Because this is all occurring now. And I'm seeing these and okay, yeah, and I'm seeing these and okay, yeah, fantastic. We're going to go wherever you want to go.

David Wright: 33:10

Yep. So again, if you guys want to make an appointment with Morgan, please reach out to the office counselingandtherapyassociatescom. That office number is 313-406-4493. Or you can reach directly out to the podcast, to the Motor City Hypnotist page, and I'll get you hooked up. Alrighty, thanks for coming in, morgan. I appreciate it. Alrighty, folks, we will be back next Monday. In the meantime, change your thinking, change your life, laugh hard, run fast, be kind. We'll see you next time.