Motor City Hypnotist
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Beyond the Mood Swings: The Reality of Bipolar Disorder - Part 2
Navigating the complexities of bipolar disorder demands more than a surface-level understanding. In this second installment of our bipolar series, we cut through misinformation to deliver clarity on what living with this condition truly means—both for those diagnosed and their loved ones.
The statistics speak volumes: 5.7 million American adults battle bipolar disorder daily. But behind each number is a person experiencing dramatic shifts between mania and depression that profoundly alter their perception, behavior, and relationships. We explore these shifts in detail, from the excessive energy and poor judgment of manic episodes to the crushing weight of depressive phases—and the particularly challenging "mixed episodes" where both states collide.
What does it feel like when happiness becomes concerning? When does sadness cross into clinical territory? These questions highlight the subjective nature of mental health diagnoses, where clear lines rarely exist. Unlike diabetes or other physical conditions with measurable markers, bipolar disorder reveals itself through patterns of behavior and emotional experience that can be difficult to pinpoint.
Perhaps most poignantly, we address the often-overlooked perspective of caregivers, partners, and family members who describe life as "walking on eggshells" around their loved ones with bipolar disorder. The strain of unpredictability, the challenge of providing support without enabling harmful behaviors, and the importance of self-care for those in supporting roles all deserve attention.
Looking ahead to our third installment, we'll tackle the causes of bipolar disorder and essential management strategies. Whether you're personally affected or supporting someone who is, understanding this condition is the first step toward compassionate, effective care.
Have questions about bipolar disorder or other mental health topics? Join us live on Facebook every Monday at 8:00 PM Eastern, or text HYPNOSIS to 313-800-8510 for a free hypnosis guide and additional resources.
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David R. Wright MA, LPC, CHT
The Motor City Hypnotist
David Wright: 0:01
In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast we're doing Bipolar Disorder, part 2. Last time, last episode, we did Part 1. We're going to get more into the specifics of it and actually some strategies or things that could help you if you are indeed diagnosed with bipolar disorder, and, as usual, we're giving away free stuff. Hang in there, folks, we'll be right back this sounds like something for the authorities in Detroit.
Announcer: 0:30
Well, joke's on you. I'm living to 102 and then dying at the city of Detroit.
Matt Fox: 0:34
Guys like this can't take over here out of Detroit Spawn in the hellfires of Motown. Take him to Detroit.
Announcer: 0:42
No, no, not Detroit, no, no, please, Anything but Detroit, no, no, not Detroit, no, no, please, anything but that. No, stationed in Drambuie, it's worse than Detroit. We did not have, as a unit, the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. Let's go to Detroit. Now you're talking brother. I don't think so. He plays for Detroit now. Do they have many farms in Detroit?
Matt Fox: 1:06
Detroit to Michigan. I go to school. I know where Detroit is.
Announcer: 1:10
Get ready for the Motor City hypnotist, david R Wright. Originating from the suburbs of Detroit, michigan, he has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome the Motor City Hypnotist, david R Wright.
David Wright: 1:57
What is going on, my friends? This is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist, and we are back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist podcast. This is like part two. This is part two of bipolar disorder. Yep, okay, uh-huh, that's Matt Fox, the other voice you hear.
Matt Fox: 2:13
This is going to be so much fun.
David Wright: 2:15
Question mark. It can be fun. I mean, here's the thing we're providing education and giving people information that they can use. That's kind of the purpose of the show is to educate people and in doing so you can know how to move forward if this is something that affects you.
Matt Fox: 2:33
Your show is very informative, but it's a lot of fun at the same time.
David Wright: 2:37
And that's you know what I think I told you, matt, and you probably knew this from the beginning. We started this a good four years ago. I'm going to say a little bit longer, three and a half.
Matt Fox: 2:46
Is it not? It was COVID year. We're in 2025. We are COVID year was 21. And you were with us in Northville. I was that was right.
David Wright: 2:55
That was right when COVID hit yeah.
Matt Fox: 2:58
We opened, so we opened our probably five years now, so five years now.
David Wright: 3:08
So this is episode 309. We are deep into it. Yeah, we are, we are. And, as I said in the prior episode, in part one, we did an episode on bipolar disorder, but I can't remember if it was in with a bunch of other things. I don't think it had its own.
Matt Fox: 3:17
It may have had its own but it's been a while we keep poking the bag.
David Wright: 3:20
But a lot of times we need to revisit things because it affects so many people and it's just important to have that. So let me first of all tell you where you can find me. My website is MotorCityHypnotistcom. Check that out, especially if you're looking for a show, personal sessions. I do corporate events as far as, like, team building. That'd be a great thing for your company if you want to do that, motorcityhypnotistcom, and you can find the show link on that website and you can have a quote within minutes. So check that out. My social media Facebook and YouTube are both Motor City Hypnotist and on Snapchat, instagram and TikTok, all Motor City Hypno.
David Wright: 4:00
That's H-Y-P-N-O and, as we've done all the way back to episode one, for your free hypnosis guide. It's a couple page PDF. It's an overview of hypnosis. It gives you kind of an explanation of how and why it works. It dispels some myths and misconceptions. But you can have that for free. Text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510. I know if you're listening and you might be driving. You didn't get that number. Just go to my website, motorcityhypnotistcom. The phone number there is this number 313-800-8510. Just text the word hypnosis to that number and you will have that within a couple of minutes. The other thing you will get is a link to my Google page Motor City Hypnotist Google page.
David Wright: 4:42
Leave a review there of the podcast. That would be greatly appreciated. And wherever you're listening, whatever platform you're on, leave a review there too, because I know I listen to a lot of podcasts. I jump in and out, I do, and I have to be honest, I don't listen to a lot of audio. A lot of my podcasts I get on YouTube, and so I don't think about leaving reviews because I'm not on the platform to leave a review. But that's fine. Whatever platform you're on, if you can leave a review, that would be greatly appreciated. All right, it is time. Here we go.
Announcer: 5:24
That's how winning is done.
David Wright: 5:26
All righty. Guess what, Matt? It's another dog story.
Matt Fox: 5:29
No, you don't say we love dog stories yes, we do, we do.
David Wright: 5:32
And it's so funny how often these stories come up of these animals that do something crazy, you know what I mean. Yeah, is your mic limp? Yeah, gotta tighten that knob there, matt.
Announcer: 5:49
Boy that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast.
Matt Fox: 5:54
Let me tighten the knob.
Announcer: 5:55
Tighten it up Great heavens. What kind of radio show is this?
Matt Fox: 5:59
How many knobs do I? Got Holy shit.
David Wright: 6:03
All right, this comes from northern Indiaia, of all places. Okay, lights were out in the mountain village of siathi, northern india, but one resident clearly wasn't interested in going to sleep. Well past midnight on june 26th, rocky, the dog, sat on the ground floor of a home in Hermitial Pradesh State, barking and howling loudly June being monsoon season in India, rain was teeming down, but Rocky's owner, lalit Kumar, could hear the dog through his sleep and the weather. I was woken by my dog's strange barking, as if he was trying to warn me. Lalit said when I reached him I saw a huge crack in the wall and water pouring through. An awful thing to find so late at night. But when Lalit went downstairs to wake the rest of his family, that's when he saw it A wall of onrushing water and earth coming down from the mountain towards the town.
Matt Fox: 7:08
Adrian, we're fucked.
David Wright: 7:09
Grabbing the dog and his family. He ran along the streets waking neighbors until 22 families had assembled and fled to higher ground.
David Wright: 7:19
Moments later, the landslide arrived and it wrecked 12 out of 17 homes in the village Only only in a wave of mud and debris jesus and the dog, and the dog is the responsible person he's the one who woke, and I say warned everyone, and I say person in the most gracious way, because this dog communicated like human yes, 67 people live there, each and every one owing their lives to Rocky, the dog whom Kumar had gotten from his brother just three months before.
Matt Fox: 7:50
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun dun dun.
Announcer: 7:57
I like this in the background.
Matt Fox: 7:58
What the fuck is it with you?
David Wright: 7:59
Good for you A Good for you, rocky. Rocky, the dog saved a whole village, honestly 67 people, yes, and the village was nigh destroyed by this landslide.
Matt Fox: 8:13
The dog, knew it was coming. I wanted to say something, but I won't because it is way too soon. Go on Really, yeah, boy that escalated quickly.
Announcer: 8:24
I mean that really got out of hand fast now you have to do it, matt.
Matt Fox: 8:28
Where was rocky in texas? Yeah, right I told you it was too soon but, but, but it's not even it's, it's just how are you gonna wipe a table with this little?
David Wright: 8:39
it's not even wet fuck, she has no worries.
Matt Fox: 8:48
Okay, it's a light of death you cross it, you die.
Announcer: 8:52
Okay, you cross it, I'm not crossing more.
David Wright: 8:54
You know, that's how we roll man, if either one of us crosses a line, the next one's going to take it a step further.
Matt Fox: 9:01
I pray for those folks in Texas. I really, really do.
David Wright: 9:05
Again. A lot of times people deal with grief, with humor, and we just did an episode a couple of episodes, jump back and listen to it on the value of humor in mental health.
Matt Fox: 9:14
I missed that one.
David Wright: 9:15
So a lot of times we do use humor to cope, and it's not a bad thing. But anyway, rocky, the dog who saved a whole village in India Definitely winner of the week, adrian.
Announcer: 9:34
That's how winning is done.
Matt Fox: 9:36
Hey Dave, hey Matt, this is my handbasket.
David Wright: 9:39
Yes, do you want to carry this for me? Can I carry your handbasket? I'm in it. What the fuck are you doing? Do you want to carry this for me? Can I carry your?
Matt Fox: 9:44
handbasket I'm in it.
David Wright: 9:49
What the fuck are you doing All?
Matt Fox: 9:52
right, folks, all right, here we go.
David Wright: 9:53
Yeah, we're back. So back to it. So we are talking about bipolar disorder. If you didn't listen to episode one, you can catch up after, or you can jump back and listen to that one and then join us here. Whichever way is fine, it works fine. So we're going to get into a little bit more. In the first episode we kind of introduced bipolar disorder, what it is, kind of give you definitions, some symptomology, and bipolar one and bipolar two, Yep, and there are different levels of bipolar Absolutely. So the question becomes how does somebody get this? Like what? What are the risk factors?
Matt Fox: 10:29
I don't want to say risk. How does somebody get this? It's got to be their genes, it's got to be family history have to play a big part into their brain, chemistry, if you will I mean, I mean that could and and yes, and a lot of mental health issues are probably genetic in nature.
David Wright: 10:48
If you've had and it's not a blanket statement If you happen to have a parent who suffered from major depression, you're more likely. It doesn't say you're going to experience it, but it is more likely.
Matt Fox: 11:02
I'm very curious over the next couple of decades yes with the amount of diagnoses that are out there and the next generation as to what their diagnoses will look like so.
David Wright: 11:17
So let me, let me just go on a little sidebar in that max. It brings up a great point. We may do an episode. You shrunk.
Matt Fox: 11:22
You shrunk my chair just dropped. Wow, you want to switch chairs. You got to stand up and pull the lever on the other side, I think.
David Wright: 11:31
Oh, it's the other side.
Matt Fox: 11:34
It should come up for you a little bit. There you go.
David Wright: 11:40
There we go.
Matt Fox: 11:41
All right, and now he's back. I don't know. I don't know what happened there.
David Wright: 11:44
I just dropped like I was at the kid's table. I was like dude, oompa, loompa, much what?
Matt Fox: 11:49
happened here. I was wild.
David Wright: 11:52
I don't know what we're yelling about. So, anyway, we're talking about again who's at risk for this. Should people be worried? Should you be concerned? So here's the thing. It can affect anyone Genetics can come into play. It's not a make or break it doesn't mean yes or no.
David Wright: 12:13
The average age of onset is 25 years, typically most serious mental health issues. There's a window between 18 and 26 where typically, if you suffer from a severe mental illness like bipolar, like schizophrenia, they often show in that age range. And we talked about the quarter century, quarter century crisis a while back, and this fits right in. Well, this is another thing to add to that, because you're already dealing with stuff that you're having a hard time managing.
Matt Fox: 12:46
That's why I'm saying the next couple of decades are going to be very interesting to the diagnoses for the future generation.
David Wright: 12:52
Well, and I will say Matt again. I know we got a little bit sidetracked. No, you're good I think we should do an episode on mental health with young adults. Yeah, that, specifically right now, is a big deal because there are. I'm going to look for data to back this up. So I'm going to say it and it's just my opinion there are a lot more mental health issues with young people now than there ever has been.
Matt Fox: 13:19
And you're absolutely correct, because you're a Gen Xer, I'm probably right on the edge of baby boomer. Baby boomer and then I'm Gen X. I know that for a fact, right yeah, but we got the Gen Z, then we have the Gen Y and it's just. I'm very apprehensive if you will.
David Wright: 13:38
Yes, and I understand it, and we're going to do a young adult. In fact we may do that next time. I'll throw that out there. That's in the works, all right, we got 18 holes to figure it out. So, yeah, absolutely so. Now, it doesn't mean that bipolar can't happen during childhood or later adulthood. It's just not as common. Sure, okay, go on. And most of the time children diagnoses can. I've never diagnosed a child with bipolar or schizophrenia. Their brain hasn't developed enough to be able to put that label on them.
Matt Fox: 14:14
That's what I'm going to say, which I don't want. You can't put a label on somebody that young there are rare cases, but you just so here's an interesting fact females with bipolar disorder may have mood swings more quickly.
David Wright: 14:31
When people with bipolar disorder experience four or more manic or depressive episodes per year, it's called rapid cycling. So think about it if you have these ups and downs four times a year, once, once a quarter, that is rapid cycling. That's more than typical for people with bipolar disorder. Okay, bipolar disorder affects 5.7 million adult Americans, about 2.6% of the US population. Sounds expensive? Yeah, yes, and there are a lot of things going S. Population Sounds expensive yeah, yes, and there's a lot of things going into that. As far as cost goes.
Matt Fox: 15:08
I'm not just talking medical costs, I'm just talking spending costs.
David Wright: 15:12
Right. So people are saying well, how do I know, how do I gauge if I'm experiencing this or somebody I know might be experiencing this? So let me give you the signs and symptoms of a manic episode. Let's start with a manic episode Excessive happiness, hopefulness and excitement. I'm saying excessive there because people will think who wouldn't want to be happy and hopeful and excited until it gets to an extreme? Where's that line? I keep going back to that. But, that's a thing with mental health. There's not line. Yeah, I keep going back to that.
David Wright: 15:45
But that's a thing with mental health. There's not really a line. I know Because you could diagnose a medical condition, something such as diabetes. Just look at your blood levels, you can see it. It's black and white. It's science. Mental health is very subjective. It really is. You have to go by symptomology. That's how it works.
Matt Fox: 16:06
Because we are all very, very different in our own unique ways. But I am a very happy individual. People could look at me and be like, wow, he's super happy. Other folks that have known me for a long time they might start to question because why is he so happy? Anyways, go on.
David Wright: 16:26
Excessive happiness. Happiness, hopefulness and excitement. Sudden and severe changes in mood, such as going from being joyful to being angry and hostile. No, I'm just pissed off. Restlessness, rapid speech, speech and racing thoughts, increased energy and less sleep. We mentioned that a little bit earlier, so how this plays into the lack of sleep and everybody has bouts of insomnia.
Matt Fox: 16:47
Right, sure, we all go and think about this.
David Wright: 16:51
Take each of these symptoms by itself. We've all probably experienced one of these. But that's and and again that, but that's the whole thing. You have to meet all of these criteria to be diagnosed with this, and that's why it's so. That's why it's so interesting. Yes, it is Increased energy and less need for sleep. We talked about that. I'm sorry, I just read that one. Increased impulsivity and poor judgment, such as suddenly quitting your job for no reason, making grand and unattainable plans, reckless and risk-taking behavior we talked about this in the first episode a little bit such as drug and alcohol misuse, promiscuity, unsafe sex etc.
David Wright: 17:29
Driving, feeling like you're unusually important, talented or powerful. This is where the little bit of the delusions come in. It sounds narcissistic, yeah, yeah, a little bit. A little bit delusions of grandeur and then, in extreme cases, with manic, manic episodes, you get psychosis, hallucinations, delusions, and I've seen this firsthand.
David Wright: 17:52
When I was just out of grad school, one of my first jobs was working at down river guidance center, which is now dying, down river guidance clinic or vice versa. I'm probably flipping the names, but, but I worked with, with, with mentally ill people in the community and we would go out, make sure they're taking their medication, you know, make sure they. You know. But a lot of these people were diagnosed with bipolar and when they were in a manic phase, you could see it, it's, it's I. I just I'll tell you one quick story. I walk up to, to this lady that we we would check in with every every week, couple times a week. Okay, get to her apartment, the door's ajar, and again, when you're, when you're working in this field, you know, not saying I'm all knowing or crazy smart but, you're aware of things.
David Wright: 18:39
Yeah, your head's on a swivel. Yeah, so the door's ajar and I'm already. Already, my, my spidey senses are tingling, sure, thanks and I kind of knock on the door and there was like this, this like I don't know if you call it a yell, but it was like okay, and I'm like I'm gonna use I'll use a fake name, of course to protect, protect people's identity.
David Wright: 19:02
Okay, june, all right june comes to the door and pulls it open, and just the look in her eyes, I could see it were they like darting back and forth. It was just almost like, almost like wide-eyed, like it was a different person her pupils weren't dilated I can't even describe it. It's it a look, yeah it looked like a different person.
Matt Fox: 19:24
Hmm, it was like a Seinfeld episode with the-. Yeah, I mean it could be.
David Wright: 19:29
And she just said what are you doing? And I'm like June, I'm here for-. She slams the door and then I hear her inside, just like banging around and screaming, and I'm like oh, somebody's-.
David Wright: 19:39
Well, here we go. She stopped taking her medication, she decompensated, she was in this manic phase for who knows how long, but again man. So yeah, the psychosis can come along with it. Okay, so on the other side are, as the depressive side of things, and again these symptoms are gonna what you would think, probably, naturally, would cover normal depression. Normal depression overwhelming sadness, low energy and fatigue, lack of motivation, feelings of hopelessness, loss of enjoyment, difficulty concentrating and making decisions, uncontrollable crying, irritability, insomnia, change in appetite, thoughts of death or suicide.
Announcer: 20:22
Okay.
David Wright: 20:22
Again, typically the things that run with major depressive disorder, but this is attached to another one where this is just part of your cycle. This is the one cycle. The other side is just off on the other end.
Matt Fox: 20:33
So on the flip side, you go up to the door and the door is ajar and June is in the room Right. You knock and you hear.
David Wright: 20:44
Or not answer at all. Not answer at all? Yeah, that could be, but here's where it gets interesting. You can have a mixed episode. Yeah, okay, the symptoms of a mixed episode include both manic and depressive symptoms together. Oh man, during a mixed episode, you have the negative feelings and thoughts that come with depression, but you also feel agitated, restless and have high energy.
Matt Fox: 21:08
All right so let me flip the coin Mm-hmm. From the person that is not going through these things.
Announcer: 21:17
Right.
Matt Fox: 21:18
As a friend, spouse, husband, wife, parent, grandparent, eggshells, yep, you are constantly feeling like you have to walk on eggshells, absolutely Walking on eggshells. So you have to understand what this individual is going through so you don't feel like you have to walk on eggshells.
David Wright: 21:41
Well and that's. But that's kind of the battle with, with a lot of mental illness, is that people, people who don't know how to, they don't know how to handle it Like not the person experiencing, but loved ones, family members, partners, children, parents. It's a. It's a. It's a tough thing to try to get your head around.
Matt Fox: 22:00
It's a very tough situation to be in and you don't want to always be in that situation. You're there because you care for them, you, you love them, you want them to get better, you want them to want to get better, and it's very difficult to bring them along with you as the caregiver, as the caring person as the loving spouse, husband, wife, what have you? It can get daunting. Yeah, and I'm not going to. No, it's a lot of work. It is a lot of work, it's a lot of.
David Wright: 22:31
And here's the thing, folks there are plenty of, and I will look to see if I can post resources in my notes for the show notes, but there are a lot of resources for family members, like of alcoholics, of drug users, of people with mental illness. There are a lot of support groups with families who are dealing with a member who is having these severe mental health issues, severe mental health issues. So I would recommend, if it's somebody you know, if it's especially somebody who's closer in your household, specifically that a support group is going to help you. People can give you insight, they can give you information, they can give you their view on things and, again, every situation is different, but for you, you have to take care of yourself.
Matt Fox: 23:15
Yes, and that's why I wanted to mention the two sides of the coin because we are talking about individuals that have these episodes, that have these mental issues. Yes, but as the caregiver, as a person who cares for somebody, you have to understand, sure, and you can't get to the point where you just give up.
David Wright: 23:33
Well, it's easy to get angry and lash out. Yeah, because the behaviors are not typical, they're not normal quote unquote.
Matt Fox: 23:41
so so it is easy to be angry and and get very upset with people, but and people get resentful and they're like I, they just can't, I just don't want to deal with this anymore, and it you, unfortunately people get to that point and then they blow up their lives right, and it's sometimes folks are like you know what that was for the betterment. But at the same point, what people get to that point and then they blow up their lives right, and it's sometimes philips are like you know what that was for the betterment, but at the same point, what is it doing to the other person, right?
Matt Fox: 24:05
no, and exactly fair question you have to feel that way as a I'm sorry a normal person.
David Wright: 24:11
Yeah right, it's just that's a lot. It is, yeah, it is, it is a lot. So here's what we're going to do folks. I know we're going to do folks. I know we're close to time but I have some more information and I can't get it done in 10 minutes. But we're going to do a part three next episode, because I want to make sure, because we're going to cover in next episode what causes bipolar if there is one, and also how to manage it, and I think that's the important one that I want to get to people and I don't want to brush over that. So we're going to do an episode three where we cover again how to manage this and what you can do if you, if you have it yourself, or if it's a loved one or somebody you're close to that is experiencing this.
Matt Fox: 24:54
Okay, and then we're going to do the top 10 movies that were not the funniest.
David Wright: 24:59
Top 10, not funny movies. No don't shut me up. The world according to Garp. All right, before we take off folks, somebody needs a home. Okay, who is it? Odie O-D-I-E, o-d-i-e, sweet, born in 23.
Matt Fox: 25:20
Right off of Garfield Go on.
David Wright: 25:22
Mixed breed Female, 25 pounds. Dog friendly yes, dogs with calmer energy. Cat friendly. Unknown Kids. Eight plus Eight years or older. Okay, odie needs a home.
Matt Fox: 25:40
Oh my goodness, this is like glamour shots for dogs, I know, isn't it he's laying?
Announcer: 25:43
on the couch yeah.
David Wright: 25:48
I just love dogs. They just have such lovable faces. He's two years old.
Matt Fox: 25:51
He looks like he's 10. I know, doesn't it? That's a she right, yes.
Announcer: 25:54
It is she.
Matt Fox: 25:58
She looks a lot older than what you're sharing here. Yeah, but she's still adorable. Oh yeah, Absolutely. She's got a little I'm trying to say mixed breed. I almost see some spaniel in there maybe I see spaniel. I see a little bit of cockapoo, maybe poodle.
David Wright: 26:12
A little poodle I would. Cockapoo seems to fit yeah.
Matt Fox: 26:17
I've put the snout, that just it's the snout. Yeah right, oh she's adorable yeah. So, anyway, odie needs a home. She's right out of Garfield.
Announcer: 26:28
Yeah, o-d-i-e, o-d-i-e.
Matt Fox: 26:30
Just don't ship her to Abu.
David Wright: 26:31
Dhabi. There we go. Odie needs a home. Detroitdogrescuecom slash adopt. Give her a home.
Matt Fox: 26:39
She will love you Pretty please.
David Wright: 26:40
All righty folks. That is our show for today. Join us next Monday We'll be live in studio Again. Those of you who want to be a part of the podcast, join in, ask questions, have conversation, facebook Live on my Motor City Hymn. That's his Facebook page page. We start typically give or take five or ten minutes at eight o'clock, so join us. Yeah, eastern, you can hang out with us and also just, I don't know if this will help or hurt, but we'll be doing this podcast after we, matt and I, have golfed 18 holes. I'll hurt, don't? So we're. We will be interesting to see what we're what shape we're in once we get here.
Matt Fox: 27:14
I'm pretty sure you'll still be chuckling after my golf game.
David Wright: 27:17
Yeah, and just a heads up for your facebook live people. If you join us, it might be a bit earlier that day, so just be aware of that. Yeah, because we're just going to come in whatever time we're done, so that could be any time in the afternoon, sure, but anyway, we'll get it. Take a look, we'll. We'll put a, we'll put a notification out ahead of time to give your time. All righty folks, that is, that is our show. Change your thinking, change your life. Laugh hard, run fast, be kind. See you next time.