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Antidepressants, Therapy, And Real Change - Part 3
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Feeling better shouldn’t feel like a mystery. We dig into the real mechanics of antidepressants—how SSRIs, SNRIs, TCAs, MAOIs, and atypicals shift brain chemistry over time—and why the two-to-six week window makes sense once you see how stabilization actually works. Along the way, we unpack the biggest myths: no, these meds don’t rewrite your personality, and no, they don’t create the craving cycle you see with opioids or benzodiazepines. What they can do is give you a steadier emotional floor so therapy and daily habits finally stick.
We also talk about why pairing medication with therapy changes the game. When your baseline moves from chaos to calm, you make clearer choices and build momentum. Hypnosis shows up here as a clinical tool, not a stage trick—useful for downshifting anxiety, reframing pain, and training attention so it stops feeding the spiral. Think of it as cognitive strength training: short, focused sessions that unlock better days while medication does its quieter work in the background.
If you’ve ever asked, “Will I still be me?” try a sharper question: “When was I my best me?” Answering that helps shape treatment choices, from activating meds for low energy to options with fewer sexual side effects, and it gives therapy a specific target to build toward. We offer practical steps for the in-between weeks—mood tracking, micro-rituals, honest check-ins—and a reminder to taper with your prescriber if you’re making changes. Stability isn’t perfection; it’s the space where joy, focus, and connection become possible again.
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Cold Open & Series Setup
SPEAKER_03In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast, we are continuing our series, and it ended up being a series rather than two episodes. We're talking about antidepressant medications, yes, different kinds, how they work, you know. And and a lot of my clients have questions when they come in and they're depressed and they're like, Well, what's medication? And there's so many variables, but but we're gonna cover that. Again, this is episode three. So if you didn't listen to the first parts one and two, you can listen to this one and jump back and/or do them in order, whatever. And as usual, we're giving away free stuff. Hang in there, folks. We'll be right back.
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SPEAKER_03Yes, you are. We're hanging out here in the palatial podcast Your Voice, Southfield Studios. Yes, you are. That is Matt Fox, the other voice you hear. Yes, it is. Hanging out, having some having some new new drink tonight. Something August brought in and kind of kind of enjoying it.
SPEAKER_04So for those of you that may not know, August is part of the Bancave Happy Hour, and he found some really good half-off deals. Yes. That can only happen by decision from a mire location. Right. And he found Legion, Largent, Legion, Legion. L-E-G-E-N-T. And it's reminiscent of one of your faves, which is the basic hidden dark eye.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
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SPEAKER_03So here we are. Well, and and just for those of you who who like whiskey and bourbon, little known, and I didn't know they did this, that that sometimes if they have an overstock or something that's not moving, they get permission from the state to sell it at a cheaper price.
SPEAKER_04They have to ask for permission.
Booking Shows & Travel Plans
SPEAKER_03Yes, correct. But it's worth looking for at your local Meyer or Kroger. Just and again, this is something I didn't know because August said they're also required to post the list so the so the customers can see it. So if you're in your local grocery store, look for a list or ask somebody, you know, because you might be able to get a good deal on some, I'm not gonna say top shelf, but this is really good. Yeah, it's yeah, it's drinking for for for 20 bucks. I mean, game. Yeah, easy. So yeah, here we are. So let me tell you folks where you can find me. My website is motorcityhymptist.com. We are approaching fast prom and grad season. We're only about a month, a couple months out. I'm in Iowa three weekends in a row in April. So if you have a post-prom or a post-grad night and you need entertainment, now's the time. In fact, I just got a show inquiry inquiry today, and I just happen to have that date open. So now's the time. Schedule's filling up fast, but I do still have open nights, believe it or not. That's great. So typically during prom grad season, so prom, it's really weird. And I think I've I think I mentioned this on the podcast. The Detroit area does grad night parties, lock-ins, like all night parties. Yes, sometimes they won't go all night, sometimes they'll go to two or three or whatever. But but other areas in the country do this on prom night rather than graduation night. So they'll do the dance and then the lock-in. And then the lock-in. So they keep everything all the kids safe, so they're not out driving or drinking or you know doing any smart tomfoolery, you know. So so yeah, but but other areas have whatever, but but it doesn't matter where you're at. I travel, I do a lot of traveling for for shows. So the fact that you're driving to Iowa three weekends in a row, three week weekends in a row. See, and and here's the thing, Matt, I would fly, but it's honestly it's cheaper to it's cheaper to drive, and honestly, the hassle of of packing for a flight and having to check my sound equipment, that's the challenge.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, do your fellow hypnotist a favor and book him to a point where he can drive to you and do what he does best. Absolutely. I that enough said, yeah, fantastic.
Free Hypnosis Guide & Reviews
SPEAKER_03So welcome. Check it out on the website. You can have a quote within minutes and book it within minutes. So uh check that out, especially if you're in need of an entertainer for your party, your grad night, or your post-prom or anything. I I haven't even I'm I'm focusing now on prom and grad night because that's coming up, but I do a lot of corporate shows. I I'll be at the Ogema County Fair this summer in August. Were you there last year? Or two years? We were not there last year, two years ago. Yeah, okay. So I'll be back at Ogama County Fair up in West Branch in August. So I'm I'll throw that out there. Just you know, you guys can come up and see me. You can hang out. Maybe we can do a podcast from there. You know what? Give me just give me dates, buddy. Give me some dates. I'll check it out. We'll see. I can do an overnight. Yeah, absolutely. My Facebook and YouTube are Motor City Hypnotist, and my Snapchat, Instagram, and TikTok are all Motor City Hypno. That's H Y P N O. And as usual, going all the way back to episode number one, I think we're on episode 230. Nice. But we've done this all the way back to the beginning. Text the word hypnosis to 313 800-8510. Within a few moments, you'll get a text with a downloadable PDF. It's a hypnosis guide that I've written. And you'll also get a link to my Google business page where you can leave a review. And again, reviews are super important. I know, and and this is I struggle with this myself. A lot of times I will go out and have a great experience, and I'm like, man, that was fantastic. But typically, people only leave reviews when they're a negative or when they're angry or when they're disappointed.
SPEAKER_04I had this experience this past weekend. We Holly and I went out for dinner. We were at a local establishment. It's a it's a chain, okay? Yeah. And the the waitress, the the server, she comes around at the end of the night. I told her, You've done an you've done a great job tonight. And I tipped her well, sure, because there's no more tips on taxes, right? But I tipped her well, and I told her you did a really great job tonight. And she said, Well, thank you, as if she's never been told that before. Really? Yeah, see so, but leaving a review is so important because it we always focus on the negative. You gotta change your mind and focus on the positive every once in a while. If you have a great experience, tell the individual and tell the establishment.
SPEAKER_03Yep, and reviews help us because you know, people see reviews, they they base honestly. Every time I do anytime I go on Amazon and order something I haven't purchased before, I read the reviews. That's just what you do, sure. And if it's 99% negative, then I probably won't buy it. Right. So, anyway, text the word hypnosis to 313 800 8510. Get your hypnosis guide and leave a review. That would be fantastic. Thank you. All righty. Here we go. This time, Matt.
SPEAKER_00That's how winned is done. All right.
SPEAKER_04So all righty. Here we go.
SPEAKER_03So it's our winner of the week. This is one of our favorite segments. We I don't I don't know when we started this. It was close to the beginning. It was. But again, it's just great stories about good news. It and as we just mentioned about reviews, people tend to react negatively, and then they'll they'll complain and they want to tell everybody about it, whatever. But these these stories are are are just good things that are happening in the world, people being good, people doing good things, very positive things.
SPEAKER_04But we have all right, so I'm excited to hear about the winner of the week. Yes, what we have to stop doing is questioning. Oh, the winners of the week. The winners of the week.
SPEAKER_03But here's the thing with any story you read, you know, sometimes you're just gonna have questions.
SPEAKER_04But we it's just but the questions that we have focus on the negative, because that's why we have to stop. Uh uh well, not not always, but not always, but we we tend to be like, but why? But but who? And come on.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so this story comes from the Scottish Highlands. Okay, so we've done a lot of stories about dogs rescuing human beings in the wilderness or in a snowstorm or in a mountain or whatever. Yeah, yeah. This is different. Okay, this time we're reversing roles. A hiker saved a dog. Bleep good game on, let's go. In what was noted to be a bit of a reversal of traditional roles, a dog was rescued by mountaineers after spending a frigid night in a hollow below a mountaintop. The dog found a hollow on a mountaintop. Okay. Five dogs and four hikers were approaching the summit of Fion Been in the Scottish Highlands near Achnachine recently when their dogs fell through a cornice, a term for a large buildup of snow on the edge of a cliff face or overhanging ledge. Yes, okay. The hikers rescued four of the imperiled pooches, but Aggie, a five-year-old spaniel, could not be found. She had fallen into a hollow below the summit. The next morning, Dundano Mountain Rescue Team assembled along with Aggie's owner and a local deer stalker to find her. A deer stalker. Is that is that a real thing, Matt? I've never heard that term.
SPEAKER_04Is it D-E-E-R deer?
SPEAKER_03Deer, like the deer animal. A deer. They're stalking deer. They're stalking deer. Wow. I just never heard it termed that way. Okay, I I heard hunter, but go on. Yeah, it didn't take them long once they arrived at the point where she fell through the cornice. A rescuer was lowered with a rope down into the hollow where Aggie, no worse for wear, after a cold night, 3,000 feet in elevation, was happy to see someone. Team leader Lane Nesbitt said the incident highlighted the risks posed by cornices, wrote the BBC. The ledges of snow form in strong winds and overhang the edges of steep slopes and can be difficult to spot. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Especially a white one. I see, I see a picture. The the spaniel is white.
SPEAKER_03That is the story. Yeah. So it is a spaniel. I'll I'll I'll hold it up. Those of you on Facebook Live can take a look at the picture. Oh, she is. There she is with the rescuer. So she was rescued.
SPEAKER_04She was. All right, good. Yes. So when they found her, how did they find her? I've just well, they know where she fell.
SPEAKER_03Like, like they they they you know, they saw her go down this this when this cornice collapsed.
SPEAKER_04And she wasn't harnessed in any way, shape, or yeah, probably. Yeah, and she falls through this crevasse and she's sitting on the ledge, and they repel down and they find her. Yeah, and they bring her back up. Yep. That's amazing. Yeah, that's about it.
SPEAKER_03Because the owner said, That's my puppy. Go and get her. Well, and the fact that they had a group of dogs with them. Right. I mean, I mean, that these are probably all pets of some sort. Sure. But yeah, yeah, you know, I I I know this is sounds melodramatic, but it's just like soldiers. Leave no one behind. No, absolutely.
SPEAKER_04Go back for your dog to focus on the positive. These human beings took the time to rescue an animal. An animal. Yep. That's the positive part. Uh-huh. You could have questions, but these people felt enough about this spaniel, this puppy, this, this, this female puppy at that. And they're like, hey, we know where she's at. Let's go get her. Yes. That's the positive.
SPEAKER_03Well, and the good thing is, again, just based on the story, she fell through this. They went, they they had to go back the next day. So it was a good probably 12-14 hours till they got back. And thankfully, she was still there and still alive. So definitely winner of the week. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00That's how winning is done.
Antidepressants Part 3 Overview
SPEAKER_03Love it. Yes, it is. So back to it. There we go. So this is part three. This is part three. So we're talking about antidepressant medications.
SPEAKER_04And we've done episodes one and two. It's a tough topic. Okay, because medication in itself is a very tough topic to begin with. But when you're talking about antidepressants, what's going to get people over? You see so many commercials on TV about weight loss, about you know, a supplement to your antidepressant that you're taking and you have been taking, but this might help, and you're having to wean off one, wean on another. There's so much involved with antidepressants. So where are we at in part three?
How Antidepressants Work Over Time
SPEAKER_03Okay. So let me just quickly review on parts one and two, we were talking about just in general, the types of antidepressants and the history of them. Again, just to review quickly, before the 1950s, there were no antidepressants. Antidepressants were discovered when they were trying to formulate a drug to treat tuberculosis patients. Sure. And they found out just happenstance that when they gave this medication to people with TB, their mood improved. So after some research, they thought, oh, this will help people with depression. And then we talked about different types of antidepressants, how they work. We've talked about SSRIs, SNRIs, TCAs, tricyclic antidepressants, and MAOIs, which are the earliest. We covered a lot of and then atypical depression or atypical antidepressants. And those are kind of things like well butrin and remeron. Those are two brand names of atypical antidepressants. Sure. And the reason the atypical ones, the reason they call it that is that works more on dopamine and nore epinephrine, and it tends to have fewer sexual side effects as well. So that's a plus for the atypical antidepressants. So a lot of the things, a lot of people will come to me, especially clients, especially if they're depressed and they've never taken medications before. They're like, Well, should I even do this? Do they work? And that's one of the big questions I get. Oh, yeah. They work, but you have to put the work into it. Yeah. Well, and we mentioned and we did cover some of this. So we're we're gonna be maybe covering a little bit more, but that's okay. That's fine. So here's the thing it has to antidepressants take a while to build up in your bloodstream, they're not like an immediate acting medication. So it takes about two to six weeks to get the full effect, but above an antidepressant medication. But Dave, I want to be fixed, or I want help now. Correct. And that's why you do therapy. That's why, again, in our practice, if you see our psychiatrist, Dr. Singh for medication, you have to see a therapist. That's our policy, right? Because medication is not an answer, it is a tool, and you combine that with other tools to get better. So we did talk about that as far as it taking us uh we did, you know, about a month or a month or so to start working.
SPEAKER_04And and I don't want to go off brand, I don't want to go off on a tangent, but that is the mentality of the world we live in today. Oh no, people want instant results, instant gratification is where people are, but when they hear it's gonna take two to six weeks, they're like, but but but with a comma in there, uh-huh, and that's where you come in.
SPEAKER_03Well, and and and I will say, Matt, just again, just just pretend you're my client. Yes, you come in, you're depressed, yes, you've had suicidal ideations, and I talk to you and I say, Listen, have you ever had have you ever taken antidepressant medication? No, I'm saying that we could use as a tool to help us work to get you better.
SPEAKER_04All right, so as a patient, as a client, I would I would say yes, I've tried it in the past, okay, but I haven't really felt different, it hasn't made me feel different, and I don't know as to what's going to help me. That's why I'm looking for that instant gratification, correct? And here I am, and I'm still having those ideations. I'm still thinking about you know things that should have happened that I'm not looking forward to the next day, right? And that's where that depression is really is gonna set in. It's just going to I don't want to say hold one back or hold me back if I was a patient. I I I'm looking for something, I'm looking for results, I'm looking for somebody to help me understand and be empathetic at the same time, right? Being empathetic, you don't have to agree with them.
SPEAKER_03No, not necessarily.
SPEAKER_04No, you need to understand as uh being empathetic, you need to understand where they are. So that's where your your psychiatrist, Dr. Singh comes in. He's like, All right, so help me understand what you have done exactly and what you're looking forward to do. And that's where these antidepressants will start taking effect. It might take two to six weeks, correct?
Therapy Plus Meds: The Policy
SPEAKER_03But you have to put the work in. But I but I always say to clients, okay, it might take two to six weeks. How long have you been feeling this way? Oh, years. Okay, there we go. So I'm telling you to give me a month to give this a chance, but it's been two years. It's okay, because we're gonna work in the meantime on other things to help you get through to that point to see if this is going to be effective. But what and and we did talk about too, again, with antidepressants, because there are so many different classes or more types of medications, and thank you for that. Because a lot of times, and and and this is this psychiatry is not an exact science, it's not, it's not, it's not like saying you go to the doctor, I have a headache. Here, here's some Tylenol three, whatever. Damn, that's strong. Well, maybe it I'm just throwing out a general example, take it a leave, brother. Or you know, or you know, I have high blood sugar, so I I have to take diabetic medication. It addresses a physical deficiency. Here's a beta the difference is this is not a physical thing. Well, it's kind of it is, it's a physiological thing. Physiological brain chemistry. Correct.
SPEAKER_04Yes, anything you put, anything you swallow, anything you put in your mouth is going to change the chemistry of your body, your brain. Yep. Anything that you put in your mouth is going to change.
SPEAKER_03Well, in fact, that's why that's why opioids are such a problem because they they work physiologically, but they also work in your brain. Yeah, uh it's a feel-good chemical.
SPEAKER_04It subsides uh pain receptors. It was it were anything that if you have a pain in your foot, there is something for that. Sure. And that's going to block the pain receptors that are in your brain.
SPEAKER_03Correct. Well, in fact, when I I do a lot of hypnosis with clients who come to me with chronic pain issues, and it's amazing how much we can change things just by thinking about just by focusing on your brain and the way you think and feel about it. Because hypnosis is very effective at managing pain. It is, and I've I've dealt with numerous clients over the years, and they say to me, I it's just different, I just feel better.
SPEAKER_04So let me ask you this question. Yeah, when it comes to the hypnosis side, they're seeing Dr. Singh, they're going through they're they're they're taking their their steps through that process. Right. Where do you come in on the hypnosis side?
Hypnosis As A Clinical Tool
SPEAKER_03So, so really I use hypnosis as a tool just like any other thing would be, just like mindfulness techniques or medication. So so I kind of use hypnosis as a tool to say, okay, we're gonna we're gonna work on just being able to just kind of quiet your mind. Because a lot of times with depression, there and in many, probably majority of the cases, there's associated anxiety that comes with it because of the the worry and the it's they kind of go together. So I I always kind of focus on okay, we need to change your frame of reference, we need to change the way you think about things. And the quickest way to do that, honestly, is with hypnosis, because we can just do that in a couple of sessions and just train your brain to think differently.
SPEAKER_04For a lot of folks, and and I love what you do, and but for a lot of folks, they'll they for lack of a better term, they'll poo-poo it.
SPEAKER_03Oh no, they would because because they think it's well, I I constantly Matt, I've I I probably told you this, or I probably said it on the podcast. Yeah, when I travel or like when I'm traveling for shows or whatever, they'll say, Oh, we're oh, what are you doing? I'm all I'm going here, I'm doing a hypnosis show. I'm like, oh my god, is that real? Yeah, I'm like, no, I've been faking it for 30 years, nobody's caught me yet. Thank goodness. So it's because I mean that is the the initial gut reaction. It's like, oh come on, that's gotta be fake, right?
SPEAKER_04But when it comes to cessation for smoking or for right, but we're talking about depression, we're talking about a a lack of a better term, again, an epidemic across the country.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. Well, and and I can give you a couple of of good examples of things that that seem totally physiological, not mental. Yes, there have been there's a study done in the UK, and they were doing hypnosis with dental patients who were having procedures done. So they would hypnotize these these dental patients, they wouldn't get gas, they wouldn't be knocked out. Really? It was just to get through this process without feeling pain. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_04Yes, and this was a study that was done in the absolutely, yep. So no, so it was there was no pain meds, no pain meds, no Novacaine, nothing, and they're drilling away, yep, and it's Bill Murray in a chair, yeah, absolutely, and with Steve Martin drilling into it, okay, absolutely.
SPEAKER_03All right, and and in the hypnot in in the study, the hypnotist would be there talking the client through it and just saying, you know, you're you're whatever. I I don't know what the language was, but in my head, I'm like, you're on a beach, yeah, you're on a grassy knoll, yeah. The the sun is it's peaceful, you're just relaxed, yeah. So so no, it it can be very effective. So the other thing about antidepressants, and a lot of clients respond with is there there are a lot of of myths and misconceptions. Yes, which just like with hypnosis, antidepressants have the same challenge. So one of the in this happen this comes up a lot with clients.
SPEAKER_04They're like, I don't want to take a medication that's gonna change my personality, and that is another denomination, another another misconception around taking medication for antidepressants, it's gonna change who they are, right? Oh, I'm happy, go lucky, and now I'm not, you know.
SPEAKER_03But but the point is, if you're happy, go lucky, then you wouldn't be depressed. Do you know what I mean? They they those can't coexist.
SPEAKER_04I I I said happy go lucky as a as someone who's uh happy with what they're doing, but they know there's something wrong. Okay, okay, fair enough. I I just I it's it you can't be depressed and be depressed, and I say that in a way of you are dealing and you are putting a persona in society, person, you know, personally, you're with your friends and you're just you're exonerating yourself, and you're like, hey, I'm here and I'm doing these things and I'm happy, but when I'm behind doors, I'm not well and honestly, Matt, that that is something that we all kind of deal with.
SPEAKER_03We most most human beings become chameleons when they need to be. They'll portray in public everything's great. I call it in and I'm sure somebody else has come up with this. I don't think I invented or coined the term, but it's social media identity. Okay, and and I we do it in person just the way the sound this just the way we do it on social media media, we portray what we want people to see. I said the word exonerated.
SPEAKER_04That's not that that was not the right word, yeah. But what uh what I'm trying to say is that you you present yourself differently when you're with friends or when you're out so you know, hanging out or what have you, but when you're behind doors, when you're in your home, you are a fucking mess.
SPEAKER_03Yep, yep, and sometimes that that is a mask, and and and a lot of people are able to do that. Sometimes people are not able to do that in severe cases, they might never leave the house because they're so depressed.
Myths: Personality Changes
SPEAKER_04And and I feel for those folks. And when well that that's when you hear about you know, people that you graduated with from high school and college that they're they're they're they're committing suicide, yeah. And it it's so difficult. Be like, well, I just saw them a month ago, and they seem fine, they seem fine, right? And it's but but you don't know where they're at in these steps of if they're going to therapy and if they are taking antidepressants, you don't know these things unless you're very close with them, correct.
SPEAKER_03Or and if they want you to know it again, because a that that a lot of times people keep that private because they feel ashamed about it.
SPEAKER_04It it's uh and in in my lifetime. My I have a lot of friends that have not been with us who are not with us anymore. Uh I'm in my early 50s and it's becoming prevalent, yes, and it's really disheartening that they may have been going through steps, but it may have not been enough. Correct. Because they didn't believe in it or they weren't being treated well enough.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it there's so many, I I I guess there's so many holes we can look at because I don't want to focus on the negative, I want to focus on the positive here. So the myth, the first myth was they change your personality, and and and I'll say in most cases, that's not the case. I I mean I can't say 100%, but here's the thing when people come to me, when they start taking this medication and it starts working, they do say, I feel different. Absolutely, you're gonna feel different, but it's not a change in your personality, it's actually emotional stabilization. And because you haven't been stable emotionally, it's going to feel different. It is, it's gonna feel different than what you typically would feel. It doesn't mean that your personality is different, it just means your mindset is different. So if somebody's been severely depressed for many years and all of a sudden they feel calm or they feel happy, they feel like this is not me because they've identified, they they've taken that sad, depressed feeling, and they've assumed that's them, that's their personality. And would you consider that a mistake as far as assuming that?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, yeah, but but I mean when you're feeling that, that's what you feel, so you don't but you're two to six weeks into this, and you're and you're correct, and you're you know you're changing, you know you've your mindset has changed, but the persona that you have put out there in society, yeah, maybe has not it's a challenge sometimes because when people start to feel better, it's it's foreign to them, they they don't know what to do with it.
SPEAKER_03So, yes, I understand it can be it can be a little bit jarring, maybe, or a little bit disconcerting. It's a change, yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's a change for sure. It's a change, and a lot of folks are not comfortable with change.
SPEAKER_03Yep, even even if your current status quo is crap, to change it is is that can be difficult. Yes, it's different.
SPEAKER_04It's it's it's you can have some very personal positive changes in your life, and no one knows if there's no reason for them to know. No, right. You need to be you and let your therapist, let your hypnosis, your doctor, let them do what they do best, yes, exactly, and just continue on, don't worry about the outside influences that are coming at you on a daily basis, every single hour, whatever. If you're into the social media or what have you, yep. Don't let that change your perception, right?
SPEAKER_03Yep, just let it work, yes, absolutely. So, one of the other one of the other myths that people kind of talk about is that antidepressants might be addictive.
SPEAKER_04Well, you're that's a myth, it's a misconception, but it's not wrong.
Masking, Stigma, And Suicide Risk
SPEAKER_03So let me put it this way antidepressants, they're not addictive the way substances like opioids or benzodiazepines are. Okay, there's a physiological dependence when you start taking opioids. Okay, and that say dependence and I mean dependence is addiction. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_04Is dependence is addiction.
SPEAKER_03So, but antidepressants don't have a craving cycle, and and when I say that, okay, craving is it okay, yes, and and I think that's the key thing to look at it. There there is no craving cycle with antidepressants, with opioids, there's a definite craving cycle, yes, for sure. Absolutely. So I can't survive without this, so I can tell you that now people might say that about antidepressants, they might say, you know what, I need this to to be happy, yeah, to be me comfortable, yes, but but it's not it's not an addiction, it's not a physiological craving.
SPEAKER_04But that's where a lot of folks that don't understand the difference between addiction and craving. Cocaine, okay. Yeah, I I have a great one-liner for you. Yes, cocaine. Yeah, and it's a one-liner.
SPEAKER_02Oh, good for you. Yeah, I got it.
SPEAKER_04The the the addiction is drug-induced and blah blah blah, but you don't crave it. You're you're not spending your house on an addiction.
SPEAKER_03You could many people have i if you're eight balling, yes. Well, if I'm just saying, you know, heroin addicts typically don't have homes when it comes to antidepressants. No, no, no, antidepressants, no, no, not like that.
SPEAKER_04But what the that's the okay, craving, you have to have it because it's going to make you feel better instantly. That's that instant gratification, okay. But but that but that can be mental or physiological.
SPEAKER_03And we're and we're focused on the physiological, yeah. But with antidepressants, even though you are feeling better, if you were to stop, you're not going to have a physiological withdrawal symptom. Okay, all right. And again, there's another difference, right? Right. So, so in in a physiological sense, they're not addictive. Okay. Now, they can be very useful and beneficial, and you might feel like I want to keep taking these because I feel better, but that's not an addiction.
SPEAKER_04Let me ask you a layman, uh a layman term. Sure. Cold turkey. What if you stopped what you were taking?
SPEAKER_03Cold turkey. With antidepressants, typically there might be a there might be some there might be some some physiological symptoms, maybe mood shifts or flu like symptoms, possibly. Okay. Again, it depends on the antidepressant, how long you've been on them. Sure. But but it's not going to be like physiologically dangerous. I'm not poking holes. I'm just I get it. No, but these are good questions, Matt, because that these are questions that people have. Yeah, that these are things that people want to know. Well, just helping folks to understand. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04You have to ask questions, yeah. Because if you don't, that's where it's going to take you to a different avenue. Absolutely. Absolutely. I just want them to get to I want them to feel better, not not get better. I don't want them to be perfect. Nobody wants to nobody's perfect. No, and yeah, and that that is where a lot of people, I just want to feel like I'm myself again. Well, where were you when you're five years old?
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SPEAKER_03Well, but again, and and that even with that statement, if you were a client, Matt, I would say you want to feel like yourself again. So tell me when you were yourself. I'm five. I'm just kidding. I'm I'm kidding. Well, no, no, but but then people might say five, they might say when I was 20. When I they might say when I was 30. When I peaked in high school at 16. Well, so so I said I I always kind of say you change, age changes you, absolutely, experience changes you. Yeah, you're you're not gonna be the same person now that you were at age 15. When were you in your best you? See, that's a better question. Because now people can kind of quantify oh, my 20s, I I was just on top of stuff, I was confident, I was good, you know. I just came up with that off the top of my head.
SPEAKER_04That that's a that's a good question. But and people have the people struggle to to pinpoint when they were the best themselves, because everyone has peaks and valleys, absolutely, just like the economy every seven years, right?
SPEAKER_03But there's always market corrections.
SPEAKER_04When happens, when were you your best you? And that that is a legitimate question.
SPEAKER_03Well, and and I and to be fair, a lot of people would have a difficult time answering that because honestly, I don't know when was I the best me?
SPEAKER_04In in my early 20s, I was living life, I was going to clubs, I was having a good time, you know.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, you're having more fun then, but we you were a better person then. Of course not. I was exactly I was effing everything absolutely.
SPEAKER_04That's that's kind of my point. Get to your mid-30s. Yes, I had kids, I was at home and I was living life. Yeah, yeah, so everyone is different in that realm. Absolutely, and that's just a very big question to ask. When were you when did you feel you were your best you? Yeah, that's where that's a good question. That's where the antidepressants really should come into effect. Yes, and say, okay, here we are. Absolutely, and just to just not to minimize, but to break down what type of depressant, antidepressants should we take?
SPEAKER_03And we'll get and we'll get into a little bit of that now. So we're you know what, folks, we're gonna do a part four because I mean, we have we have a few more things here. I elongated and and I mean we could just condense it into one episode, but but we have other info. We have another winner of the week, we have another we have another Detroit dog rescue. But before we go, who we got those on Facebook Live, we're gonna do one more episode. Those of you listening to audio, stick around. We're gonna do one more episode. So, or I'm sorry, those of you listening to audio, skip ahead to the next episode. If it's not there, it'll be there Tuesday or Thursday. So, who we got? Who we got? Somebody needs a home.
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SPEAKER_03You're covering the name. Tang. Oh come on. So Tang was born in 2020, okay, domestic short hair, neutered male, okay, 15 pounds, dog cat friendly, unknown, kid friendly over the age of eight. Are they dog friendly? Unknown. Oh. Cat friendly? Unknown. Come on. Yep. Hard to say. But for those of you who like cats, I I know typically we always do dogs, but every once in a while we we get a kitty. So white tang needs a home.
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SPEAKER_04Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_03Detroit dogrescue.com slash adopt. Thank you. Alrighty, folks. That is our episode for today. Join us for antidepressants part four coming up. In the meantime, change your thinking, change your life, laugh hard, run fast, be kind. We'll see you next time.