Top 10 United States Olympic Moments That Sparked Controversies

Some Olympic controversies are loud for a week. Others echo for decades and make you question the whole idea of “the best athlete wins.” We sit down with pizza and a drink and build a Top 10 list of controversial United States Olympic moments, counting down the stories that still spark arguments at bars, in comment sections, and in living rooms during every Games.

We hit the headline-makers, like Ryan Lochte’s 2016 scandal, and the unforgettable Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan saga tied to the road to Lillehammer. Then we get into the moments that split public opinion right down the middle: Simone Biles stepping back in 2021 to protect her mental health, and Sha’Carri Richardson’s marijuana ban, which opens up a real conversation about Olympic drug rules, federal vs state legality, and what “fairness” is actually supposed to mean.

From there, we roll through judging and scoring chaos across eras, including Jordan Chiles and the podium-whiplash of a late inquiry, Marion Jones and the lasting stain of doping, the infamous 1972 USA vs USSR basketball finish, and why razor-thin timing debates like Michael Phelps’ 2008 butterfly can still feel unsettled. We also talk about why judged sports like boxing can become lightning rods, with Roy Jones Jr’s 1988 decision as the ultimate example of how a medal can be taken without ever being physically lost.

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Transcript

Cold Open And Welcome

SPEAKER_01 0:01

In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast, we're doing back-to-back top 10 lists, folks. I know we did a top 10 list last episode with the top 10 United States Olympic moments. I'm gonna follow it up with another top 10 list, the top 10 controversial United States Olympic moments. Wow. All right. So I I know we it's been a while since we've done a top 10. You're getting two in one, well, in one recording. It's actually a different episode, but we're sitting here recording at the same time. But don't tell them the intricacies of what's going on. And then in the meantime, stick around because we're giving away free stuff. Here we go. We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

This sounds like something for the authorities in Detroit. Well, joke's on you. I'm living to 102 and men dying at the city of Detroit.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

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SPEAKER_05 0:57

No! No, not Detroit! No! Stop!

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Stationed in Drambuing, man. It's worse than Detroit. We did not have as a unit the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. Let's go to Detroit. Now you're talking, brother. I don't think so. He plays for Detroit now.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

Do they have many farms in Detroit?

SPEAKER_00 1:21

Detroit. To Michigan.

SPEAKER_03 1:22

I go to school, I know where Detroit is.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

Get ready for the motor city hypnotist David R. Wright, originating from the suburbs of Detroit, Michigan. He has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R. Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome to Motor City Hypnotist, David O. Wright.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

What is going on, my friends? It is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist. We are back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast. We're here in the palatial podcast, your voice, Halfield Studios. Thank you for that. Having a drink, enjoying some pizza, doing a podcast. That is Matt Fox, the other voice you hear. I don't mind me. It's always helping me out as far as producing and recording and all the other fun stuff behind the scenes. I have a mouse. Yeah, you do. You have a mouse. That's it. I have a mouse also. Just for my computer, though. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:45

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DoorDash Grandfather GoFundMe Surprise

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Don't shut me up. I step out, I get a drink, I get some beating. Yeah, we're fantastic. So let me tell you folks, first of all, where you can find me. My website is motorcityhypnotist.com. If you're looking for a show, whether that be post prom, a postgrad, or even a fair or festival. So I am booked right now for three post proms and close to 18 post grad nights. I'm doing the Ogemaw County Fair, which is in West Branch, Michigan, Ogemaw County, and that's into August. So if you want to come out and see me, that's a perfect opportunity. It's a few hours, but it's a great fair. I've done this one before. I always have a great time there. So check that out in August. Let me tell you folks where you can find me. Well, I told you motorcityhypnotist.com as far as shows go, because things are booking up quickly. So if you need a show for your post prom or your grad night or your fair or festival, now's the time to book. And you can do that online within a few moments, you'll have a quote, and then you can book online directly. My social media links, Facebook and YouTube, are both Motor City Hypnotist, and Snapchat, Instagram, and TikTok are all Motor City Hypno H Y P N O. I'm eating. You're eating. Matt's eating. He usually handles that part, but he's all good. I'm I'm really slacking. Yeah, yeah. You're good. Oh, good for you. It's really good. And as usual, as we've done every episode going back to number one, text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510. Within a few moments, you'll receive a text message from me. It'll have a PDF downloadable for you to have. It's a free hypnosis guide. It gives you kind of an overview of hypnosis, how it works, dispel some miss and misconceptions. It is yours for free. It will also give you a link to my Google Business page for Motor City Hypnotist. I would appreciate if you use that link and leave a review. Leave a review of the podcast, leave a review of a show if you've seen one, leave a review of a personal session if you've seen me in person. All of that is yours. Text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510. Thank you. And whatever platform you're on, Stitcher, Spotify, iTunes, whatever podcast platform you're listening to me on, please leave a review there because it helps us get to more people. And as I mentioned last episode, we just hit 10,000 downloads last couple of weeks ago. So we want to continue to grow and just make the podcast available or accessible to more people and have more people involved and listening. If you review, it'll get out there that much quicker. Absolutely. It is time, Matt. Oh, let's bring it. Winner of the week. Here we go.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

That's how winning it is done.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

All right. So you astounded me the last episode.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

What do you got next? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Okay. A woman who had a door dash order brought to her house was shocked to see an old man on her doorbell camera. Inspired to help, she set up a GoFundMe, which raised you ready for this? Uh-huh. How old was this dude? To allow the man to retire.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

Okay, so we a lot of folks that listen to the show. They I they pretty much ordered DoorDash, Uber Eats, whatever you want to call it. If you have an elderly person bring you food, why wouldn't you start something to help that person out?

SPEAKER_01 6:30

In fact, I have a photo of the man coming up to the door. Okay. Just so you can kind of see. He can barely walk up the damn steps, Dave. Yeah. There he is. Yeah. Bringing a door dash order. Switching on her phone's ring doorbell camera app, she was surprised to see an elderly man she would later learn was named Richard. Okay. Ascending to her porch in a red flannel shirt and khakis. It could have been called a door-dauddle order, as his old age, he could hardly dash up the steps in her front door. Door doddle? And needed the hand railing for support. Sure. Door dottle. Oh good!

SPEAKER_02 7:15

My food's getting cold.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Hurry up. My daughter's dad is a quadruplegic, so he often has things sent to the house because he can't physically go get them, Smith said. Okay. Explaining why Richard arrived at their house that day. This poor guy is struggling to get up my stairs to deliver my very capable daughter, her Starbucks.

SPEAKER_02 7:35

Oh, for sake.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:40

Oh, great Odin's range.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Okay, so wait, wait. And caramel macchiato costs six dollars and some odd cents. Six dollars and some odd cents just for a caramel macchiato. Yeah. You door guy is bringing it to you. You door dash it, that costs you$13,$15 plus tip. So that cup of coffee that you could have made for 30 cents, she could add water.

SPEAKER_04 8:06

No, you've had your limit today. You drink water.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

And there's this gentleman who's in his 70s, I'm gonna presume, yep, is delivering frickin' Starbucks. Oh my G.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

So let me continue on the on the story. Calling her daughter's father, Smith asked him to leave a bigger tip, but the father replied the opportunity through the DoorDash app was to do so was gone. Meanwhile, she posted the video footage from the ring camera on TikTok and on other social media platforms, wondering if anyone in Manchester knew who the old man was. Manchester. I don't know. Okay. We're gonna get there. I hope. I hope. A Facebook user recognized him as Richard and got in contact with Smith to reveal his identity and address. Driving over, Smith offered him a$200 tip. Fair. Which would have made the story beautiful on its own. But it got even sweeter than the Starbucks Richard had delivered. At his house, Richard explained that his wife lost her job and that the two of them quickly lost their savings, paying for monthly expenses and a very costly medication she was taking. Richard took to the DoorDash gig to try to supplement their income. Oh my goodness. That's when Smith set up the GoFundMe with the aim of helping Richard go back to retirement. With the footage from the ring camera going viral, the GoFundMe benefited tremendously and raised almost a million dollars from an incredible 32,000 donors. Oh my gosh. I had no idea that I was going to gain that much traction, Smith told UK's Independent. UK to the UK, Manchester, UK. Okay, yep. Richard said he's not slept in two days because he can't quit watching the GoFundMe. I love it. Yeah. So 985 again. These are typical people, like normal people, just getting a DoorDash and and and being being concerned and caring about another human being.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

$985,000 was raised. 32,000 donors, right? Yep. That's$30,$31 per donor. Per donor. Yes. That's average. That's it. Yes. On average. Yes, on average. That's yeah, it's crazy. 30 32,000 donors. Yeah. You know how hard it is to get just a hundred donors? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

But okay, so the 70-some year old is delivering DoorDash because he's trying to supplement income for the medication that his wife needs. That his wife needs. Yes. God love him for putting for doing it.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

Yeah, for for for putting in the effort for taking action. Oh, so you mean paying attention to his vows? Yeah, that too. Right. Yeah. My gosh. Yeah. It's just a great story. It is. Again, this guy can now retire in comfort with his wife and not have to worry about money and they can and they can afford the medication for the next three months. Yep. Absolutely. Definitely. Winner of the movie.

SPEAKER_03 11:18

That's how witted it's done.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

That's right. I had to keep it real. No, it is. That's it. So back to it. Yeah, I had to keep it real. That's three months of medication. Yeah. For Viagra.

SPEAKER_05 11:32

Oh, good for you. Oh yeah. 60,000.

Setting Up The Controversy Countdown

SPEAKER_01 11:40

Yeah. All right. So we're talking controversies. So again, we're doing another top 10 list back to back since we haven't done one in so long. And the last, if you haven't listened to last episode, we did the top 10 United States Olympic moments. And I brought up history.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

I brought up some good ones on top of the top 10. You did.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

Yeah. So if you didn't listen to that one, jump back after this one and you can catch up on that. Thank you. This top 10 list is the most controversial United States Olympic moments.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Now, this is something I haven't really paid too much attention to.

Lochte And Harding Take The Stage

SPEAKER_01 12:11

So you might blow my mind. When when I when I bring these up, you'll be like, oh yeah. Okay. I I almost guarantee it. All right. So did you start from one to ten? You have to go backwards? 10. Yep. We're going 10 down to 1. Okay. Number 10. The Ryan Lochti incident from 2016. Was that swimmer, right? Yes. He was a swimmer. Do you remember what the story was? He falsely claimed he was robbed. Mugged and robbed. That was not the case. The night before or something? Yeah, something like that. Okay. So he made up this story. Who knows why? Why he missed curfew? Because he was banging some other gymnasts. It's hard to say. But you know, falsely claiming he was mugged and robbed caused a lot of controversy, and he wasn't. He wasn't robbed and mugged and robbed. So I don't I don't know. There's some some issues here. I broke my dick, Coach. I don't know. It's crazy. I broke my dick, Coach.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

What are you people?

SPEAKER_01 13:14

Just rub some dirt on it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:16

Rub some dirt on it and get back in there.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

So yeah, that that was that was a big, big scandal. I do I do remember that, yes. This this one you'll know. I'll just say one name and you'll know it. Go ahead. 1994 figure skating.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Oh boy, my knees are uh my knees hurt.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

Tanya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan. Yeah, it was connected. Uh the 1994 Olympics. So so here's the thing: the attack didn't happen at the Olympics, it happened in the qualifying, right? Which, and and I can give you some inside information on this. So my wife Kendra is a figure skater, and she is now a figure skating judge, yes, but she was a skater at the time. Okay, yeah. So she was at Joe Lewis Arena. She was in charge of of all of the the young the young people who pick up all the stuff the stuffed animals and flowers that get thrown on the ice. Okay. So she was she was she was at the rinkside because the at Joe Lewis. The quarterfinals were at JLA, where they were. Well, that that was the qualifying qualifying. Yes, yes. So she was she was in the building when this incident occurred. Wow. But had no idea what was going on. She just there was commotion. Okay. But again, the attack on Nancy Kerrigan before the 1994 Lillehammer Olympics with Tanya Harding and her Jeff Galouli and oh, who was the bodyguard? Oh I can't remember. I don't remember, but they schemed to to take Nancy Kerrigan out all shit with an injury. All shit goes down to Detroit. I I know it and it's crazy. And the funny thing is, it would it was that they had a they had a I blame the mayor. Some some kind of walkway from Kobo to the Joe because they had a practice ice, and then the Joe Lewis is where the actual things were taking place. Yep. And it and and they got her in that tunnel coming into Joe Lewis Arena. I've been in that tunnel, yes, yes. You've been in that tunnel. I have too. Yeah. I got stuck in that tunnel because people don't know how to walk. I know, I know. So that that was a big one. And in fact, that's probably one of the biggest scandals in in Olympic history, even though we have eight more to go.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

It is wow.

Simone Biles And Mental Health Blowback

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Okay, so that's that's number nine. Shit. Yeah, it's crazy. Here we go. Number eight. Simone Biles withdraw from the 2021 Olympics.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

She did that for very good purpose. And that's citing mental health issues. That was a game changer for her and her career. To I I I'm gonna use the the terminology recenter themselves. Yes. Because they were the things were coming at them so fast and furious. And yes, you're gonna be, you will be, you will be. And like that's just pressure. Yeah, absolutely. I don't I you know what I'd rather focus on me sure instead of what you expect me to be. Right. Is that is that a good analogy?

SPEAKER_01 16:15

I mean, yeah, I I uh she she put herself first, and and yeah, a lot of people got pissed off about that, but that's fine. That that's the whole point. You don't get she's taking care of herself, yeah. That that's the that's the the most important thing is her own well-being. Yeah, August is taking care of our well-being. Like it was cleaning up, he's I've been taking care of your well-being if I brought you booths. August, you got two hats on. I'm almost empty. I'm almost empty.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

I wear many a hat. I wear many hats, Dave.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

You do, you wear many hats.

SPEAKER_02 16:45

Oh come on.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

All right, the next one. So I don't even know. Wait, wait, yeah, go back to Simone. Simone Biles, yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

So what she did was what allowed her to come back the way she did and win. Did she not come back and win? I believe so. So she she took the necessary time to focus on themselves to take a step back in their career and say, you know what? I don't care what other people think, I'm more important than a piece of metal, right?

SPEAKER_01 17:23

Well, but that's the whole thing. It's perspective, it's taking care of yourself before, regardless of what public opinion is. Yeah, that that is the most important thing.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

And and that was a huge, huge controversy.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Why would somebody I don't know why there was such a divide in public opinion? Why would some people do hated it? Some people said, good for her. For for but we should all just be like, good for her.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Yeah, absolutely. What does August? What what do we got here? What is this? An orphan bottle, an orphan bottle. Oh, okay. We'll get we'll we'll talk about that. We'll check that out. Thanks, August. You're welcome. Yeah, you're my best friend of the guy persuasion.

Shakari Richardson And The Marijuana Ban

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Okay, number seven. I I've never heard of this person. Okay. Shikari Richardson.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

Shakari Richardson. What year?

SPEAKER_01 18:16

2021, which has not been that long ago. That's just five years ago. Right. Before the 2000, before the Tokyo 2020 Olympics, Richardson was banned for marijuana use. I don't even remember this. It sparked debate about outdated drug rules versus fairness. Is she a sprinter? I track and field, yes. Track and field. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

So I think I do remember. She did test positive for marijuana.

SPEAKER_01 18:43

But but marijuana had marijuana had already been legalized in certain states. See, here's the problem. And and and this this is something I run into a lot, especially with clients. So so those of you who know who've listened to the podcast for any length of time, you know I'm a therapist. I do hypnotherapy, I do, but I'm a regular therapist, I'm a licensed therapist as well. And I have a lot of people who use marijuana for whether it's for sleep, whether it's to reduce anxiety, whatever the cake case is. But the problem is it's not legal federally. No, it's not it's only legal on a state-by-state basis, correct.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

And what causes a problem. Where would the summer summer or where would the Olympics be in?

SPEAKER_01 19:26

It was Tokyo. It was Tokyo. So what is there? See, that's that's I don't know. And I don't know if they were basing it on US laws or Tokyo laws or Japan laws. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

As a US athlete, they were probably based on the law of the law. They're probably federal.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

Federal laws, our rules. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

Yep. But okay, so marijuana has been around since forever. Okay.

A Therapist View Of Pot

SPEAKER_01 19:49

So so let me give you my let me give you my therapist take on pot. Okay, then we'll talk, then we'll see so here's the thing. I in and some people might have an issue with this, but I can say it because I believe this and I say this to clients. I would much rather have clients using pot than having to take an antidepressant or a benzodiazepine for anxiety.

SPEAKER_02 20:12

Oh, so help me understand that. Is it because of the downer effect or is it because of the calming effect?

SPEAKER_01 20:18

It's it's because one marijuana is not inherently addictive. Now, you you might get to the point where you want to use it, like like because it makes you feel a certain way, but physiologically, it's not addictive like alcohol or like whisk heroin or you know, any any other addictive substance. A class what substance?

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Because heroin is a class. Yeah, it'd be class that probably class one, I believe. Yeah, and marijuana is considered to be a class three.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

I think it's class three right now. I think it changed recently, but I'm not sure on that. It may have. So it's so so here's the thing it's not performance enhancing. No, no, it's not performance enhancing. It doesn't help you, and it doesn't help you like like gain physical abilities. It it it's it's a it's something that can calm your mind and make you chill. You you hear it for lack of a better term.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

You hear a ringing in your ears consistently, the only thing that calms it down is marijuana.

SPEAKER_01 21:22

Well, a lot of people who are going through cancer treatments turn to marijuana for the nausea to help sleep. Sure. So so I am I can say that I I I am a pot proponent in certain circumstances, sure.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Depending on where you're at and what you're using, as long as it is used responsibly for the right reason. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 21:45

And and I and and again, I've talked to clients because of a lot of my clients that come to me because of unfortunately a lot of them are legal issues, and a lot of them are on probation, which means they have to drug test. Oh boy, which you have to draw for for pot and for alcohol. And I've always I've always thought, you know, do we really need to test for pot? I I I mean or a more damaging thing. Alcohol is by far more damaging than pot. Nobody's ever been I shouldn't say this. How do I say it? Nobody's ever OD'd on pot. Sure. Now, people have drunk themselves to death. There, there's a limit as far as much how much alcohol intake you should.

SPEAKER_02 22:30

Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

The other thing with pot, yes, you shouldn't be driving. You shouldn't be doing things that require you to operate a medical vehicular one. And and again, as long as you're following those rules, again, I would much rather have somebody smoke pot than have to take Xanax for the next 20 years. Sure.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

So and and let me get on the same plane as you, where there are certain autoimmune diseases that folks go to marijuana for to subside the pain. Yes, absolutely. And or this the physiological, psychological things that they're going through, they they go to marijuana for those things. Yeah. So this sprinter who got banned from participating and competing for pot usage, yeah. What was their reason for because it violates it violates the substance abuse? But what was the individual's reason for it? See, I that that's a good question. Who knows? See, that's what I want to know is because they got banned. They knew it was a banned substance, yeah, but they still chose to do it because they were going through something.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Could be, or or or it could be she was just enjoying it, she's just using it recreational. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

I don't know. That's fair. It's a recreational drug, it is for medicinal purposes as well. It can be used as medicinal.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

That that that's kind of the point.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

But the the legality of everything was state by state passing it, is for recreational use. Right. Every state, federal, they they already recognize the medicinal purposes for it, even though it's illegal federally. Even though it's illegal federally. But federally they still recognize it from a medicinal side of it. Right. So just get off your get get off the pot.

Scoring Errors Doping And Fixed Games

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yeah. Yeah. No, I I I know. I and it seems really ridiculous for for in this. I hate to sound like the old man down on the corner. But nowadays, I mean, pot should just be a it should just be it just should be a legal thing, it should be something you can just get and and not worry about. So not to get stuck on the pot thing, but you're going to number six. Go ahead. Jordan Schiles. Do you remember her? No. Why don't I remember her? It was in 2024. So it was the last. Yes, it was the last winter or the last summer Olympics. Yeah. At the Paris 2024 Olympics, a late score inquiry briefly moved her onto the podium before being overturned. So what happened was, long story short, there there was a there was an error as far as this scoring, and she was supposed to be on the podium, but when they fixed it, she did not meddle. Okay. So there was an error in the scoring. She's a gymnast. Yes. Okay. Yep. Jordan Child's gymnast. 2024. She, you know, she's only 411. Really? Yeah. Oh, they're tiny. Yeah. Because gymnasts are little girls. Yes. And and guys. Both. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

She's from a prairie high school, the University of California in LA. There we go. And she was the gymnastics at the 2024 Summer Olympics. The artistic team all around. So her teammates were Simone Biles, Sunisa Lee, Jay Carey, Hazley Rivera, Case McCallum, and Kayla DeSello. There's a few more, but really? Yeah. She the scoring took her, took the medal away from her? She went from what gold to silver or bronze to not?

SPEAKER_01 26:08

I don't know. I know that she went from being on the podium to not being on the podium. I don't know specifically what place she was in. Sorry, I know sometimes when I do these notes, I I put them together and I think of questions later, and it's like, oh, I should have looked that up. That's why Matt's here. Right. I'm trying to, I'm okay. I'm doing homework. So look for that, and I'll move on to number five. Okay, go ahead. Uh speaking of doping, who did Marion Jones doping scandal 2000 track and field? 2000. Yep. In 2000, she was stripped of her medals. Because she what did speed? One of the biggest doping scandals in Olympic history. And I have no idea what the dope was. It doesn't say. She did speed. Let's just call it what it is.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

She's a runner. Right. She needed a boost. Yep. She, you know, what do they what do they give horses when they when you dope a horse? Oh, I don't know. Ketamine.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

Oh, ketamine. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Yes. Who knows? I have no idea. I'm just kibbitzing over here.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

All right. Who's what's next? Number four? This is a big one. Number four. And and this was way before our time, but we all will remember it. The USA versus Russia 1972 basketball. I was born then. You were not. I was I was a still a I was still a glint in my family. Okay. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 27:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

I was seven at the time. Okay. Do you remember this issue? I don't. Oh, you need to watch. Go to YouTube and just look this up. Okay. 1972. 1972 men's basketball.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

So the US and Russia were playing in the finals for the gold medal. For in basketball. In basketball. Okay. In Munich. The officials reset the clock multiple times, giving the Soviets extra chances. Now it's a fix. This doesn't this doesn't take into account what happened. And you and if you watch it, it's it's it's Matt, I'm telling you, it's just like, how can this happen? They reset the clock three times to give Russia another one or two seconds to get a bucket to beat the US. In what capacity were they giving them?

SPEAKER_02 28:12

Were they were they time traveling? The referees were like, nope, I saw that three seconds ago.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Nope. They just said, nope, clock is wrong, add two seconds. Clock is wrong, add two seconds. Whatever it was.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

And the U.S. just were like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

And the U.S. still that's to this day, they've not accepted their silver medals.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

Wait, wait, wait. So it was a gold medal match? It was a gold medal game. And they haven't accepted the silver medals because they're like, You you did us wrong?

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Yes. Absolutely. Good for them. One of the biggest scandals in Olympic history. If I'm telling you, Matt, it's so it's it's so infuriating, but at the same time so fascinating. I don't want to be able to look at it. I don't want to be any more mad at Russia than I already have. Well, right. It was the Soviet Union. Well, it was the it was it was the refs too, but but the there was a fix in. It was definitely a fix. Gorbachev, could Gorbachev have a hand in that or what? I think it was 70. No, it was 72. So that would have been Brezhnev. That would be Brezhnev, yes. Yep. Yep. Wow. Number three, Michael Phelps 100 meter butterfly.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Okay, okay. So I 2008. Okay, I mentioned his butterfly in the last episode because his technique is amazing. So help me understand this scandal about his butterfly.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

There, there was a big issue. There was a big uh I call it a scandal. It really wasn't, it was a big, a big uproar about the timing accuracy because it appeared that he did not win as far as the clock goes, and that the rules were unevenly enforced. So what happened was that it was reviewed and found to be legal, even though people still think it was not. Was it how they touched the wall? And I think I think it was just a 0.01 seconds. And there was a there was an issue as far as it it's the timing was off somehow.

SPEAKER_02 30:06

Yeah, it's yeah, 0.0 that's 100 tenths of a second.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

I know it it and it can be that close. Yes, I know.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

Yes, it can be that close. Yes, but his technique, opposed to the other person's technique, right? When they touch the wall, how they touch the wall, at what point does the pressure make this the timer?

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Okay, all right. I mean, long story short, the the the event was upheld, he got his medal, but but there was a lot of issues, he got arguments about it. He got his gold, yes, okay, yeah. Number two, Jim Thorpe stripped of all medals, 1912 track and field. Jim Thorpe. Yes, with a T H O R P E. After the 1912 Stockholm Olympics, Thorpe lost his gold medals for playing semi-pro baseball.

SPEAKER_02 30:57

Wait, wait, so he was a professional athlete? Yeah. Semi-pro professional athlete.

SPEAKER_01 31:03

Yes, semi-pro professional athlete.

SPEAKER_02 31:05

In 1912. Yes. And what in what sport was he performing in the Olympics? He he was a he was track and field, Jim Tart. Yes. But he was a semi-pro professional baseball player that had nothing to do with track and field.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

But he lost all of his gold medals because they found out he was playing semi-pro baseball. Did you say okay? So professionals weren't allowed to play. Rules were unevenly enforced, and medals were restored decades later. Okay. So they did restore him after 20, 30 years.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

Okay. So he he ended up being, you know, honored with the work that he put into the sport of track and field. Yes. Not professional baseball. Correct. All right. Yes.

Roy Jones Jr And A Stolen Gold

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Yes. Jesus. And number one, I actually I'll be honest. I thought the USA versus Russia would be number one on this list when I was doing my research. In what capacity? As far as being controversial. In what capacity? What sport? Boxing. Oh. Number one. Number one. Roy Jones Jr. Okay. 1988. Okay. Boxing. Okay. Seoul Olympics. Jones dominated his opponent, but lost a shocking decision by the judges.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

Where where was the 1988 in Seoul? Seoul. And it was Russia and USA.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

I don't know who his opponent was.

SPEAKER_02 32:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

But Roy Jones Jr. dominated this boxing match, and they gave the decision to the other athletes. He just knocked the snot out of this competitor and it came back against him. And again, just based on the articles that I've read, widely considered one of the worst judging decisions in Olympic history.

unknown 32:53

All right.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Like it was fixed. Like there was there was there was no doubt they were gonna award it to whoever.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

I'm gonna say this out loud. I appreciate what your wife does. She's a judge. Yep, she she judges ice skating. Yep. Do you think that the opinions of individuals should decision somebody receiving medals going forward because of their individual, they have their opinions on a performance or how they skated. Everyone's got their own opinions. This person beat the snot out of this other individual, and it was a controversy because of the bought off.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

Here's the problem. And and I've said this to my wife numerous times. She knows it. And I'll say it directly to her. If if you want to, if if you want to know who actually wins or loses, you need to play a sport where they keep score, not judges. Because anytime you have judges, there is there is a possibility of confolery.

SPEAKER_02 33:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Because of just the shit that's even the whole scoring system in figure skating changed. Right. Remember back in the days where it was 10, 10 was your max score. And that's when the French judges were giving signals to each other. And this was back in, I think I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna get the year right, late 80s, early 90s, somewhere in there. And they there were signals. And they updated the whole scoring system to ref to to make people more accountable. Sure. So now let's say, and and and Kendra, if you've talked to my wife, she'll tell you, you know, if you're judging and your score is consistently way away from everybody else's scores, they're gonna call you out. They're gonna say, You're you're not something's not right here. You're not seeing what we're seeing. You're not seeing what we're seeing. Yeah, so so they have fixed it to some extent.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

There was a gymnast that did a balanced beam performance. And the score that came back across the board was she had no mistakes. She got a 10 out of 10 on anything. She got full marks. Yep. She went to the judges and said, No, I made a mistake here, I made a mistake here, and here. And it took her out of out of metal, out of metal, right? Because she was honest. Ah, and the judges were like, Holy shit, that's never happened before. But that's it, it's their opinion that they did not make a mistake. No, I made mistakes. You missed it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

And and I know it's just inherently a possibility when you have judges, boxing, figure skating. Anytime you have judges, yeah, that there's a possibility of some some idiocy.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

It's all up for public opinion. It's all it's all up to your personal observation of what just happened. Right.

Adopt Socks And How To Join

SPEAKER_01 35:48

And and I will hand it to figure skating because they have corrected it. They they have made the scoring system now so that it is almost impossible to cheat or to to to to fudge your scores. Sure. So kudos to them for doing that. Yep. But it took that whole scandal with the French judges to make it happen. Right. Because that that messed up a lot of people's Olympic dreams back then. Right. So that folks is our our 10 most controversial US Olympic moments. Those are big ones. And a lot of bad, uh, you know, a lot of it's it's disappointing to see somebody robbed of something they should have got, especially that I go back to the USA and and Russia basketball. And this was in 1972. You know, half of these guys are probably gone by now, or or maybe, maybe probably in their 70s or 80s by now for sure. Yeah, yeah. So I I just feel bad that that and that one was the most blatant. I really thought that would be number one because that was a blatant, a blatant fix of this game. And if you watch, go to YouTube and just look that up. 1972 1972 USA versus Russia. Fair enough. Or USSR. I know what I'm doing tonight. Yep, absolutely. Alrighty, folks. That is our show. Before we go, somebody needs a home. Who is it?

SPEAKER_02 37:05

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SPEAKER_01 37:21

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SPEAKER_02 37:42

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SPEAKER_05 37:56

A little bit.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

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SPEAKER_01 38:06

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SPEAKER_02 38:20

Love her. Your your your beautiful bride did uh say I was gonna she did. Yeah, she's I was gonna say careful, but you self-corrected.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

I have no idea what she's talking about.

SPEAKER_02 38:31

That's a that's a good thing, yeah. Because you're self-corrected, you're good.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

I mean, I don't know what I self-corrected on. Well, she'll she'll tell you, yeah, she'll she'll let me know. Yeah, for sure. I've enjoyed these two top 10. That I I know it's been a while since we've done a top 10. I thought let's put two together since we just had the Olympics and just have some fun. So, but that's part of what this podcast is. Yeah, it we're not super serious, we will we talk about serious subjects, but it's it's just not a downer. We want to be encouraging and helpful.

SPEAKER_02 39:00

And and but Dave Kendra, Kendra says, I'm a judge. She is a judge, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

Yeah, yeah. That's that's why that's why I said she is a judge.

SPEAKER_02 39:08

She's she's judging you, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

I'm just playing. She probably does, I'm sure. I get judged by everybody.

SPEAKER_04 39:18

It's it's all good.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

I love what I love what you do, man. Yep, absolutely. That is our show for today, folks. Join us next Monday. Be a part of the excuse me, be a part of the podcast. Yeah, like Kendra. Go to go to Motor City Hypnotist on Facebook. You can watch the podcast as we do it. You can enjoy in the conversation. She's always ask questions.

SPEAKER_02 39:38

Kendra's always judging you.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

She's always watching.

SPEAKER_02 39:41

See?

SPEAKER_01 39:42

Yes, always, yes, absolutely. Love it. So, yeah, join us. You can ask questions, you can be a part of the podcast every Monday, right around eight-ish. Yeah, we're here. Eight-ish, give or take away. We're here having fun. Yeah, it might be earlier some nights, but but just check out. Honestly, just go to my Facebook page, Motor City Hypnotist, and just whatever you do, join or or subscribe. Live, whatever it is. I don't even know what it is on Facebook. But when I go live, you'll get a notification. And then you can just jump in and watch the podcast. Happens to me all the time. Absolutely. Every week. Absolutely. So, yeah, do that. Alrighty, folks. That's our show. We'll see you next time, next Monday, right around eight o'clock. In the meantime, change your thinking, change your life, laugh hard, run fast, be kind. We'll see you next time.