Parenting Teens With Oppositional Defiant Disorder With Consistent Boundaries (part 4)

Defiance can look like disrespect, but up close it often looks like a teen who is flooded, stuck, and missing a few key skills. We wrap up our oppositional defiant disorder series by getting very practical about what helps and what makes things worse. If your home feels like it’s stuck in a loop of blowups, cooldowns, and broken promises, we talk through the exact patterns that keep that cycle alive and the small changes that start to break it.

We dig into why escalation is so destructive: yelling, shaming, and punishments delivered in anger don’t create compliance, they create bigger reactions. We also spend time on one of the most common traps for families dealing with ODD in teens, inconsistent discipline. When expectations shift based on a parent’s stress level, a teen experiences rules as unpredictable, which invites more conflict. Our fix is simple but not easy: write down expectations and consequences ahead of time and treat it like a shared agreement, so nothing turns into a surprise “because I said so” battle.

From there, we lay out protective factors backed by research: warm stable relationships, predictable routines, emotional coaching, and positive reinforcement that competes with the constant negative feedback many kids hear at school and at home. We also talk about school support like IEP plans, and what progress really looks like with oppositional defiant disorder: fewer explosions, better communication, stronger relationships, and steady gains over time. We end with a powerful reframe that changes everything, moving from “What’s wrong with this child?” to “What skills or support does this child need?” If you find this helpful, subscribe, share it with a parent who needs it, and leave a review so more families can find the show.

Recorded  06-22-26

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Cold Open And Series Preview

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In this episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast, we are finishing up our series on oppositional defiant disorder. This is part four. If you haven't listened to the past three episodes, you can jump back or you can listen to it after this one. And we're giving away free stuff. Hang in there, folks. We'll be right back.

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Detroit. To Michigan.

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I go to school and know where Detroit is.

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Get ready for the motor city hypnotist, David R. Wright, originating from the suburbs of Detroit, Michigan. He has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R. Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country, and it's the clinical director of an outreach and mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis.

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Welcome to the Motor City Hypnotist, David All Wright.

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What is going on, my friends? It is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist, and we are back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast. I'm new. That is Matt Fox, the other voice you hear.

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So new.

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He's getting back into the saddle. We've been off for about a month. Well, I have been off for a month. Hit the buttons been here, but yeah, you know, whatever. That's Matt Fox, the other voice you hear. Hi, David. We're hanging out here on a Monday evening in the palatial podcast Your Voice, Salfield Studios. We are back hanging out doing a podcast. And again, I typically do this every four or five podcasts, but uh reach out to podcast your voice. If you want to do a podcast, I know there are millions of podcasts out there, but whatever you whatever your interest is, there is a podcast that you can do, and people will listen to it. Aglets. Aglets. You know what an aglet, you know what an aglet is? That's a that's the whole for your for your shoelace. Yeah, yeah. There they're podcasting. I'm sure I probably so. I mean, I I I mean, pick a subject. There's probably a podcast for it. There, there's a podcast for sea cucumbers, too. That's what we're calling it. C cucks. What's what's the name of it? Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. So we're here, folks. Before we get started, let me tell you where you can find me. My website, motorcityhypnotist.com. Check that out, especially if you're looking to book a show, especially if you are running a fair or a uh uh uh festival of some type. Definitely summer season is summer for fairs. I will be at the Ogemaw County Fair in August coming up. So right now that's the only fair I have scheduled, but that could change if somebody comes and books at motorcityhypnotist.com. My social media links, Facebook and YouTube, are both Motor City Hypnotist, and Snapchat, Instagram, and TikTok are Motor City Hypno H Y P N O. And as we've done every episode going back to number one, and we're like we're in the 340s right now. Text the word hypnosis to 313 800-8510. Within a few moments, you'll get a text message with a free downloadable PDF. It's a hypnosis guide that I've written. It will also give you a link to my Google business page where hopefully you will leave a review of the show, which would be greatly appreciated. And also, wherever you're listening, whatever platform, whether it be iTunes or Stitcher or Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts, subscribe there and also leave a review on the podcast platform. Because again, that gets us into more people's faces and we get more listeners. We're coming into your home. Yep, we'll knock on your door. Yes. All righty. All right, it's time. Here we go.

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That's how winning it starts.

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Okay. All righty.

The Missing Dog Story And Kindness

SPEAKER_01 4:37

After a serious crash on a rural British Columbia Highway, a woman and her husband had to search for days to find their missing dog, Daisy. Along the way, they experienced just about every kind of help imaginable until 96 hours after their crash, they were finally reunited with their Australian shepherd. Four days later. Yeah. Dira Jordan and her husband Sharon were struck in Kalowna, BC, by a pickup truck that ran the pair of them off the road. Their car rolled over, and Jordan suffered a series of small injuries. When the crashing and rolling stopped, all Jordan could think about was Daisy, her dog, who wasn't there. Sorry. It was soon obvious that nothing serious was hiding under her scrapes and bruises, and the doctor eagerly discharged Jordan to go look for their dog. Meanwhile, while responding to another call, a local member of the all-volunteer Central Okanagan Search and Rescue asked the Royal Canadian Mounted Police about the sirens he had heard earlier and was told two cars had rolled over on the highway near Kelowna. Rescue member Forrest Kellerman got home and looked up more information on Jordan and Daisy's crash and saw notice that an Australian Australian Shepherd was missing, whether it was the passion for finding people that saw him join the search and rescue volunteers, or whether it was his own Australian Shepherd staring at him in the eye that afternoon. So he had a he also has an Australian Shepherd. Got it. But Kellerman and his wife Tracy decided they were going to go find Daisy and bring her home safely. The next day they spent hours searching the area around the crash site. The day after that, they met Dira and Sharon, who had hardly slept since the crash. By then, the whole community had got wind of the ordeal and came out to help, either physically searching, providing a thermal imaging drone, or even just bringing out hot meals. People were bringing us food, satellite links, everything imaginable. Like volunteers were coming out of the woodwork just to complete strangers. It was so emotional. On the fourth day, Tracy still felt compelled to go look for Daisy. And so the Kellermans went to the crash site where Tracy decided to do what could have been described as the obvious in the immediate vicinity of the collision. The man who hit Jordan with his truck was still hospitalized with serious injuries, and his truck was still lying in the brush. Oh my goodness. Approaching, Tracy suddenly saw a movement, a small face with big eyes. It was Daisy. She was sitting on the passenger seat. Of the truck, of the other one. Yeah, the truck that rolled over. She didn't make any sudden movements, but began sweetly talking to the dog while calmly alerting Forrest on the road to go and get Jordan. The dog mom couldn't hold back her emotions upon seeing Daisy, who whimpered intensely at seeing Jordan. Like Jordan herself, Daisy was no worse for wear after the crash. And the two went home delighted in their good fortune and then the kindness of strangers that brought it about.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

I chuckled at the beginning because the the husband, he's got injuries. Yes. And she's like, Where's my dog? Yeah, she just leaves. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Ignoring him.

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And this is why we need seat belts for puppies. Yes. I'll look at that.

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Yep. There's the husband. Yeah. With with with Daisy. With Daisy. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. All right. That that's that's great. I I mean, I for a rollover crash and a dog not to be hurt. Yeah. That's that's kind of crazy. That is crazy. Because I mean, humans are strapped in. I mean, they're good, of course, they're still gonna get cut and bruised or whatever, but okay. Dogs seem to come out at the best. She Daisy's part cat. Maybe. Definitely wouldn't know the week.

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That's how winning it started.

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Oh boy. Yes, it is.

ODD Part Four Recap And Frame

SPEAKER_01 8:51

All right. So back to part four of oppositional defiant disorder. And again, I I know I know we stretch these out sometimes, but but but the big thing is I want you to get all the information. And sometimes, you know, 20 minutes is not enough to cover everything. But but we don't want to make the podcast two hours long either because that's not consumable. It's just a lot of, you know, it's a lot of time if you listen to it. So that's why I put it into half-hour episodes. So this is part four of oppositional defiant disorder. And in episode three, we kind of covered why teens have more of an issue with ODD. We talked about emotional dysregulation and the role of trauma. And then we talked about some effective approaches as far as therapy goes. And again, I want to rehit this one because this one really kind of hit for me. Collaborative problem solving, a model developed by Dr. Ross Green, and it focuses on identifying lagging skills. And the philosophy of that approach, kids do well if they're able, meaning you have to give them the opportunity to do so. That that one really struck with me. Also, dialectical behavior therapy, which is commonly known as DBT. And then we talked about parent coaching and individual therapy, right? And then we got into the medication part as far as the SSRIs, the SSRIs, the atypical antipsychotics. So we we covered some of that. The quaaludes, yep, yep, got there. So I I I want to hit I want to hit on this again.

What Makes Defiance Worse

SPEAKER_01 10:23

We hit this right at the end of last episode, but I really want to do this because this this is an important one to revisit. The things that make things worse. Oh, yeah, yeah. And and I hate to I hate to do this with an analogy, but because I'm not comparing kids to animals, but it's it's you can you can tell how a parent treats their children by the way they treat their dogs. Yeah, that that's if they scream and yell at their dog, I guarantee you they're screaming and yelling at their kids. Sure. And and again, yelling is not that's the most destructive thing you can do. That's escalation. It's escalation. Yeah, humiliating a child. You know, you're no good, you're a piece of shit, whatever, whatever. I mean, some i I mean, some parents could be that blunt. I would hope not, but um, and here's and here's one I want to again, I want to expound on this because we kind of brushed by it last time. Did I consistent discipline? Inconsistent discipline is this this is the biggest challenge for parents. And and and when I work with parents, I say, listen, you have to be consistent. So we need to now lay out a specific plan on what are your specific actions if A, B, or C happens.

SPEAKER_02 11:32

I wouldn't say I will almost want to say expectations. What are your expectations by with your child? And that's what needs to get laid. That's the groundwork, the expectations.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

Well, what happens typically, and and I I shouldn't say typically, but in a large, a large number of cases, parents react, they discipline out of a reaction, not out of a planned structure. No, they discipline out of emotion, yeah, absolutely. And that's the wrong way to do it because typically when we discipline, we're angry, we're out of control, we're we're we're emotional dysregulated ourselves. So you have to be consistent with discipline, and and it can't be a surprise to the child. You can't say to a kid, you're grounded for a week because you did this, if that wasn't the setup ahead of time, if that wasn't known beforehand. Because at that point, as a parent, and and and I have had parents who said, I'm the parent, I they just need to listen. And I'm like, Yeah, I get that. I understand what you're saying, but but that defiance that that you're you're you're not gonna win a confrontation with an adolescent. No, it's it's just gonna go south. So, so the discipline needs to be consistent, and and the and the the adolescent involved needs to know what to expect. So, what I do with parents and and adolescents is I have them sign a contract. We write it out, say, okay, these are your responsibilities, and these are the these are the things that we want to avoid, and have both the parents and the kid sign it. And that's the so the kid knows exactly, okay, if I if I if I do a this is what the consequence is. Let me show you what a notary is. Come here, right? But but I mean that that even though that's largely symbolic in a way, but but the point is you want to have buy-in from both parties that both sides understand exactly how things work, because unless you have that set up, it's just reactionary.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Being a uh a policy person, procedures type person, right? According to paragraph two, part a second sentence in you said you would that would that would be well.

SPEAKER_01 13:43

I mean, but but that's but that's something we can go back to because again, when the child at some point, or when the adolescent at some point has has some defiance, you can just say it's right here. You said this, this is exact you sign this, so you understand this is what happens.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Well, I renounce what I sign. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

But that one, that one again, I I really wanted to focus on that because when adults escalate, the kid is going to escalate, and then nothing, nothing good happens from that. Nothing, nothing, it's it becomes a cycle, it becomes this cycle of blow-ups, settle down, hope it doesn't happen again, blow up, and then that cycle just continues.

SPEAKER_02 14:23

But yeah, contract is the expectations of certain actions that may happen. Yep.

What Helps Most For ODD

SPEAKER_01 14:29

So what helps most as far as the research shows? So there are definitely some protective factors that can help somebody with ODD. Warm, stable relationships. Now, when I say that, you there's already gonna be a challenge if there's some marital conflict. Sure. Because that's gonna that's just gonna funnel down into the family. So the child needs to experience warm, stable relationships. If you know people, parents who might be single and they have and they're dating, totally fine, but but having different people every three months in and out, yeah, it's not consistent, it's not stable. It it doesn't provide that warm stability that that adolescents need. But we talked about it uh as far as the inconsistent discipline, consistent expectations. That's another thing that helps the most. No, you you can't change what your expectations are and expect the kid to be able to follow. Has to be laid out and know exactly.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

As they get older, those expectations can become they can change, they become more stringent based on the career that this person, the the child wants to move in, but just it's about behavior, yeah. And that those expectations can change, but the child, the the adolescent, the teenager, they need to be a part of those changes. Absolutely, yeah. I mean, it needs to be a team effort.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Pivot, you you it and I know as parents are our I've done it as a parent myself. It's like you you just want to pull a ring and say, I'm the parent, you're the kid, up off. Yeah, you know, in in an essence, but that's that's not constructive, that doesn't help anything. Emotional coaching. Here's another thing where where where adults can model behaviors they want their kids to follow. So if the parents, if the parents have difficulty with emotional regulation, chances are the kids are probably gonna have the same sure the same issues. Predictable routines, this is a big one because a lot of times with ODD, there there is a level of anxiety and and and that the kids need structure.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

Adolescents need structure, and if you don't have a predictable routine, that can throw them off. You know what the the the toughest part for children, for kids, teenagers is the summertime. Yes, because during the school year, they're up at a certain time, then hopefully the parents are getting them to bed at a certain time. They say go, yeah, go to bed, and then they sit there on their phones until 2 a.m. And then they're up at 6 30, they get four hours of sleep, and it just they progressively can't and then and then they wonder why their grades are bad at school, and then the summer comes, yeah, and you have to set that expectation of you are you are up and moving by this time because you will not spend your entire summer in your bedroom, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Yeah, I I mean again that that's that's setting routines. What we talked about in one of the earlier sections, positive reinforcement. And the positive positive reinforcement, and this this has been shown by far through many different studies to be more effective than than punishment. It just is. The other thing you want to look for is school support. Most students who have have issues at school, whether it's behavioral or academic, they that there are plans that you can do, an IEP plan that you can put into place. They have to address that. So so that is something you you need to have support from school as well. Because they because kids spend you know six, seven hours a day at school.

SPEAKER_02 18:14

Especially if you if you know that your child was diagnosed, they have a learning disorder. That's where the IEP is really helpful to keep them on track. Correct. So they're not getting behind with the schoolwork being assigned.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Right. And and here's the kind of the the the running theme with ODD is that the these kids and adolescents, they get they're constantly getting negative feedback. You're bad, you're stupid, you're hopeless, you're a failure. And and you know, when kids start to hear that over and over again, it's just gonna compound the issues they're having, it's not gonna help anything. So positive relationships can radically alter the outcomes of somebody with ODD. It really is. It's it's it's you're investing emotions in your child.

Prognosis And How Progress Looks

SPEAKER_01 19:01

So, what about prognosis? Uh a lot of times families dealing with ODD, they feel isolated, they feel alone, but this is not a this is not uncommon. That this this is a very common thing for adolescents to go through, but improvement is absolutely possible. Many adolescents mature into to to very well-functioning adults with therapy, structure, emotional support, medication, if it's appropriate, and consistent caregiving. So and and I know even as a even as a human being, you want we want results immediately. We want it to happen right now. But this will take some time. I don't know what you're talking about. You can you can't just flip a switch, just like your own therapy journey. You're you're not gonna resolve everything in an hour. It it's it's it takes time to rewire all of these thoughts in these patterns that we've developed over years. Sure. So, yes, recovery is rarely overnight and often comes in stages. So, what you're gonna be looking for to see what so how do we measure progress on somebody with ODD? Uh fewer explosions, right, improved communication, better school functioning, whether that's academically or just even behaviorally. Socially, yep. Increased, increased emotional awareness and stronger relationships. Okay. So small improvements matter more because you're you're you're never gonna get these big, big seismic shifts. These these are all gonna be small improvements that add up over time.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

I think Bill Murray said it best when Richard Dreyfus said baby steps.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Yeah, yeah. I I mean that that that and that applies to therapy in general too. Yeah, it applies to all of us. So I I whenever we talk about diagnoses, I I we always want to break it down. And I always I I don't want to make it any of these diagnoses seem simplistic because they're not, they're all involved, they all have a lot of moving parts. And ODD, it is a complicated disorder. It it and not only affects behavior, it affects relationships, it affects emotional development, it affects the family system. So but the big thing to know is that that it's not beyond help, that there are ways to make things better. So here's here's the question that needs to be changed.

Reframing The Question And Parent Work

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Instead of adults saying, What's wrong with this child? That of course is is the question that that most people would say. What's your major malfunction, Pop? There's your major malfunction, numbnuts. Mommy and daddy give you enough attention when you were a kid. Go on. So instead of saying what's wrong with this child, the question should be what skills or support does this child need? And it's it's it's just a different, and it's just a different way to approach it. You're approaching it from the positive, like, how can I help? Not you're bad. Because the label doesn't help anything, it just makes things wrong. It just they make that makes things worse.

SPEAKER_02 22:11

You want to be the catalyst of change for good. Yes. And the absolutely and the proper you know support that you want to give them, you want to be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

And again, it it is difficult. And for yourself, I would say to adults who are dealing with this, parents who are dealing with this, you need to have your own therapist. You you need to be working on your own self because the better you are, the better you're able to help your child and have that emotional recognition and positive self-posit support.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

And it takes practice, it takes a commitment from the parent to change their thinking in that regard. Yep. You may have said some bad things, some heinous things in the past.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

It is so easy to become angry and just say, Oh, this kid, I'm uh yeah. I mean, that yeah, that's I that's the natural. Yeah, this little a-hole is ruining my life, you know. I mean, yeah, people have said this to me.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

That's it, it's but when it comes to just normal things that should happen automatically. That any any human being with common sense, you turn off the lights, you make sure your laundry's being done, you make sure you get up on time, you brush your teeth, you are hygienically sound. These are basic things, and parents flip when those basic things are being met. These are really easy items, yeah, to sit down and have a human conversation with your child over.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

And and and those things are challenges for many kids and adolescents. Yeah, it it and it's not and it's not a matter of them not wanting to do it. It's it's just that they they they don't think about it. They can't, they they just can't they can't get it. They just they don't think and that's what that's why you work with them to to teach them, to teach, to teach them how to moderate their emotions, to help them have better self-esteem. Yeah, because I can tell you, these are all symptoms of low self-esteem. Being late, poor hygiene, not being responsible, you know. These are all signs of low self-esteem, yeah, and low confidence. Yeah, so so that is what we need. We need to work on the on the you need to work on on the inside coming out, not the outside going in.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

I I like that. Yes, and that's just something I just came up with. It just but but that's really what therapy is. You're working from the inside out. There we go. Got it. So here's the thing you you can see a change, it just has to be done. And and if you need help with that, that's when you seek out professional help. Seek out a therapist, seek out a child psychiatrist, just to review if medication might be a possibility. Again, not an answer, but it could help. And you just you when I'm I'm gonna say this, and it's you need to work on yourself as a parent. By doing that, you're going to help your kid. Sure. And also will give you the tools to implement some of these things we talked about without being reactionary and without always being overwhelmed. Yeah. Because at least you have a plan at that point, and you have an advocate, you have a therapist or a doctor who is helping you with this.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Talking to you. That's the big thing. Yep. All right.

Next Topic IED Plus Announcements

SPEAKER_01 25:30

That is opposition oppositional defiant disorder. So we're gonna we're gonna move into something into a similar area on our next episode or two. Well, it depends, might be five. So who knows? Who knows? So we don't know until we get into it sometimes. Go on, but we're going to talk next episode about IED. So IED is intermittent explosive disorder. Well, I thought you were talking about birth control. No, no, that's iUD. No, no, don't shut me up. I couldn't help it. But but it's it's a it's it's in the similar vein as ODD, but it's much more, it's much more explosive, thus the term. And and and we're gonna get into that. Also, before we go today, we do have somebody who needs to be adopted, but before we do that, we are doing or we're gonna attempt to do this year, a motor city hypnotist academy in August. Okay. So the dates are set. It's a it's it's I'm gonna say I'm looking at my calendar real quick. It would be the 23rd. I'm sorry, the 24th through the I'm sorry, it's something 24th through the 27th. Of August. Of August. Okay. Yes. I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting the date numbers wrong. I take that back. It's it's it's it's on my website. Okay. I I should just go to my website. Yeah, you should. I mean, that that would be the easy easiest thing to do.

SPEAKER_02 27:06

So while you're doing that, the the motors, the the the motor city hypnotist academy is uh for folks that want to become licensed, people that want to learn hypnosis, learn learn hypnosis to they become certified certified certified hypnotists, certified hypnotist, not licensed, certified, right?

SPEAKER_01 27:23

Yes, yeah, three three-day course, five, five-day course, five days, eight hours. All right. The date is you can do it. I know you can. I'm on the page. I believe in you. August 6th through the 10th. Okay, it's it's a it's a Thursday through Monday. Okay, so Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Five days, 40 hours. Check it out. It's on the website, it's open, it's it's active, so check it out. There's a whole there's a go to motorcity hypnotists.com slash academy, and it'll take you right to the page and you can read all about it. Fantastic. Yep. So yeah, we'll we'll be pushing that this year. Hopefully, we we can get uh get some people trained. And uh, if you want to learn how to do hypnosis, and the here's a couple of things I want to push this. I'm gonna teach you how to hypnotize people with live people. Now, here's the thing: there's a you could do these trainings online that might cost you a hundred bucks. You could learn it online, maybe, but it's not likely unless you're unless you're with real people actually doing it. That is the only way you're gonna learn and and be confident in it. So, this academy is specifically set up for beginners, no experience, no degrees required. You just come in, I spend five days with you, and I teach you what I do. I love that. So there, check that out on the website. There's only 10 spots. I'm gonna throw that out there as well because it's hard to manage more than that, but but yeah, 10 spots, and it's coming up in August. In August, we got it, we got about a month and month and a couple of weeks. August 6th through 10th. Yep, okay, yep. All righty, folks.

Adopt Bones And Closing Thoughts

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Before we go, somebody needs a home. Who is it? It's bones. Okay now. I I picked bones just because of the photo, Matt. This is a mastiff, okay. She's four years, two months old, 95 pounds, big, big girl. It's a big girl, yeah. She's good with dogs and cats. Okay, doesn't mention kids. The reason I brought this one. Oh, look at her.

SPEAKER_02 29:27

Look at the marbling eye of that puppy. Oh my goodness. I just love that she's hugging this teddy bear. Literally hugging the teddy bear. All right, so I did I did it with the last dog where his name was Ricky and he should call Schroeder. Yeah, this Bones McCoy.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

Yeah, come on, McCoy, of course. Bones needs a home. Taylor Animal Shelter. She needs a place. I know she's a big dog, but if you have a big yard, yeah. If you have a big yard and you like big dogs, yeah, Bones needs a home. Gosh. All righty, folks. That is our show. Join us next Monday as we record live on Facebook Live on my Motor City Hypnotus Facebook page. Uh, in the meantime, change your thinking, change your life, laugh hard, run fast, be kind. We'll see you next time.