Recovery Tools For Intermittent Explosive Disorder (part 2)

Anger can show up in an instant, but the damage can last for days, years, or an entire relationship. We pick up our conversation on intermittent explosive disorder (IED) with the part people crave most: how recovery works when it feels like your reactions are faster than your thinking.

We get practical about what “taking back control” really means, starting with neuroplasticity, the brain’s ability to build new pathways through repetition. We walk through how to identify triggers, why tiny moments can set off huge explosions, and how an anger journal can reveal patterns you can actually change. From there, we break down therapy approaches that teach real skills, not just talk, including cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT), and dialectical behavior therapy (DBT).

We also dig into hypnosis as a tool for emotional regulation, stress reduction, and rehearsing healthier responses, kind of like how athletes use focus and visualization to perform under pressure. Then we zoom out to the relationship side: how outbursts erode trust, what a real apology sounds like, and how supporters can set boundaries while still encouraging treatment. We close with clear warning signs that mean it’s time to seek help immediately, plus a quick community note you won’t want to miss.

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Recorded 06-29-26

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Transcript

Cold Open And Quick Setup

SPEAKER_00 0:00

In this episode of the Motor City Hymnotist Podcast, we are talking about intermittent explosive disorder. This is part two. If you didn't listen to part one, you can jump back and listen to that episode and be caught up with us, or you can listen to this one and go back. You'll get the information either way, both ways. And we're giving away free stuff. Hang in there, folks. We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_04 0:21

This sounds like something for the authorities in Detroit. The joke's on you.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

I'm living to 102 and then die at the city of Detroit.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Guys like this can't take over here out of Detroit. Spawn and the hell fires the motel. Take him to Detroit. Detroit!

SPEAKER_04 0:44

Stationed in Drambuy. It's worse than Detroit. We did not have as a unit the confidence that we felt like we needed to beat Detroit. Let's go to Detroit.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

Now you're talking, brother.

SPEAKER_04 0:56

I don't think so. He plays for Detroit now.

SPEAKER_02 0:59

Do they have many farms in Detroit?

SPEAKER_04 1:01

Detroit to Michigan.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

I go to school, I know where Detroit is.

SPEAKER_04 1:05

Get ready for the motor city hypnotist David R. Wright, originating from the suburbs of Detroit, Michigan. He has hypnotized thousands of people from all over the United States. David R. Wright has been featured on news outlets all across the country and is the clinical director of an outpatient mental health and hypnosis clinic located just south of Detroit, where he helps people daily using the power of hypnosis. Welcome to the Motor City Hypnotist, David all right.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

What

Hosts Catch Up And Talk Lions

SPEAKER_00 1:52

is going on, my friends? It is David Wright, the Motor City Hypnotist. We are back with another episode of the Motor City Hypnotist Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

We are, and did you know, did you know?

SPEAKER_00 2:02

I don't know, Matt. What did what do I know? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

This year, this year, America is two and a half Mel Brooks's old.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Mel Brooks is a hundred. Yes, he is. Yes, he is. Yeah, I know he was getting up there.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

You know, the uh the other person that reached a hundred, and I thought she if she gets there was June Lockhart. Oh, yeah, she she died at a hundred. Oh man, yeah, on the dot. I mean, I don't know if it was her birthday or not, but it was close. Hi, I'm 100. Yeah, that's Matt Fox, the other voice you hear. We're here in the palatial podcast Your Voice, Southfield Studios, hanging out on a Monday, doing a podcast, having a beverage, and just enjoying life. Terry and Arnold is no longer a I know. I just saw they were the it's uh my son and I were talking about this because as soon as that happened, I thought Dan Campbell's not gonna let him stay. No, God no, no, no. Because I mean, but and I would have been disappointed had he let him stay because he preaches this culture and this this this approach that he says if you don't buy into it, you're not on our team. So I'm I'm I in a way I'm kind of glad to see that happen. Yeah, yeah, you you it's it's it's just right.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

He made poor choices. And there's no reason there's no reason for him to flourish in a career when there are some other people that are just as talented that whose noses are clean, they're gonna do the right thing. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Absolutely.

unknown 3:19

Sorry, go on.

Where To Find David Online

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Let me tell you folks where you can find me. My website is motorcityhypnotist.com and check that out. There's all kinds of good information on there, especially if you want to book a show, whether it be for your fair or festival. I know we're into like summer season, so a lot of fairs and festivals looking for entertainment. Check that out. I will be at the Ogema County Fair in August. I believe it's August. I'm gonna say the third weekend in August. It's Friday and a Saturday, do two shows each day. So if you want to come up to West Branch to see my show, come on up, introduce yourselves. I'd love to meet you. That'd be awesome. My social media, Facebook and YouTube, are both Motor City Hypnotists. Snapchat, Instagram, and TikTok are all Motor City Hypno. H Y P O. And as we've done every episode going back to number one, text the word hypnosis to 313-800-8510. Within a few moments, you'll get a text message from me with a downloadable PDF. It's a hypnosis guide that I've written. And you'll also get a link to my Google Business page where we you could leave a review, which would be greatly appreciated. And whatever platform you're listening on, whether it's iTunes or Spotify or Stitcher, wherever, leave a review there because that also helps us get in front of more people and grow the show, which is what we want to do. We want to we want to help everybody. So as much people you can get, yes, better it is for you and the better it is for us. Alrighty. Matt. Oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

That's how winning is done.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

All right, what do we got? Alrighty.

A Lawn Mowing Story Of Hope

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Wow, this this is crazy. Okay, who knew so much power lay behind the simple act of mowing a lawn? That's that's the opening statement of the article. All right, that's what Spencer from SB Mowing, the prolific social media account, has shown us before and is now showing us again as his yard work channels six hundred and eighty-five thousand dollars to a woman who had no money for rent or groceries.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

I I have I I have actually watched this video. Have you? I have I have not seen the video. He started a GoFundMe for her. Yes, you see the picture there with her. Yes, exactly that's exactly one. This cat he goes around the country mowing lawns that really, really need I watched his channel and I've not seen this one specifically.

SPEAKER_00 5:50

I have seen this one.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

There are two, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

I know of his channel though, because I've seen it before.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

There are two parts the one when he first meets her saying, Hey, I would really like to mow your lawn. Right. And the question was, What do you charge? And he says, It's free. This is what I got the YouTube channel on, and then the second part is him going, You know, it's good to see you again. By the way, I want to share with you what has happened since I stopped here the first time. Yes, this is a great the SP mowing. This this guy is actually really, really great because he does go around the country.

SPEAKER_00 6:19

Well, and and I've seen his videos where where he'll get cops called on him for doing it like illegal yard work. Right. Yeah, which is crazy to me. But yeah, go on.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

I I know of this cat and this and this story. I really do enjoy the story.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

In a video posted on his YouTube channel on Friday, Spencer introduced his followers to Debbie. She was the most of his, she, like most of his beneficiaries, has a terribly overgrown lawn and no money to hire anyone to take care of it. Right. In fact, Debbie, like Beth in a previous video, has no money at all. Debbie has had one of the hardest stretches of life imaginable, and she's been carrying most of it alone, S. B. Mowing said. It started when her husband was diagnosed with stage four cancer and given 90 days to live. Debbie had to be caregiver until he passed away. During her grief, a contractor she'd hired for tree work took a $2,000 deposit and never showed up. Yes. What a piece of trash.

SPEAKER_03 7:20

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

Where is he at?

SPEAKER_02 7:24

He had a brain like a chicken.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Oh, no, no, it's even worse. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Like this in the background. What the fuck is it with?

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Anyway, a neighbor wrecked her car and didn't pay for it. She fell three months behind on rent, put off dental and health care she genuinely needs. And there were days when she and her dogs went without food because she simply couldn't afford it. She could she could barely walk around. Right. According to KAKE News in Wichita, an Uber driver who took Debbie home from the grocery store reached out to Spencer and explained the elderly woman's situation. Spencer and his father then came out with their kit and spent two whole days battling back the years of overgrowth and carting it off to the landfill. Afterwards, they took a war chest of things that she had prepared to sell in a yard sale to Habitat for Humanity and brought back the cash without the work. Spencer's nonprofit SB Mow It Forward took care of Debbie's three months of back rent. Then he set up a GoFundMe that went viral. It raised $685,000 for more than 22,000 separate donations.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

That's part two of the video and the the the emotion on her on her face. And she's like, That is that real? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Like just I imagine just total disbelief. Totally disbelief. Yeah. Yes. All of which has gone into a trust of which Debbie is the sole beneficiary. Sure. It's the kind of story that makes you pause on the face of someone saying that social media is all political arguments and cat videos. It is not. It's not.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

And this cat and this and this SP mowing, this cat proves that paying it forward, mowing it forward, uh-huh, it is a good thing. Just when you when you said the opening line, I'm like, okay, here we go. Okay. But then you said SP mowing and my and my my ears pricked up. And I'm like, I I know the story, I know the work that this guy does. Like I said, he travels around, he he looks for lawns. Yes, he looks for these specific situations. Yeah. The situations, but he looks for the lawns that really need it too. And he does a pretty damn good job. He does. He does a great job.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

He does. So I mean, just him in general, yeah. But but with her, definitely winner of the weekend. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

That's how winning it's done.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_02 9:49

It is. Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

So back to yeah, thank you for bringing that cat up.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

Yeah, I I I you know, I see that channel all the time. It's in my algorithm because I see it all the time, and I watch, but I did I did not see that one. I will look for that because I now I want to watch it since we had the story. Yep. So here we are, folks. Intermittent

Recovery Starts With Brain Change

SPEAKER_00 10:07

explosive disorder part two. So we talked in the last episode what it is, how how it affects people, what the symptoms are. But today what we're gonna look at is talking about recovery and taking back control of something that seems out of control for a lot of people, as the individual having been diagnosed with the individual having that.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Are we going to look at the other side of the equation of the spouse, the partner, the family member as well?

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Yep. Okay, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

So we talked about what it is. Now we're gonna talk about the the most important thing, which is recovery. How do we dress this issue now that it's here? Okay, because again, it can feel overwhelming, it feels like you have no control over anything. But here's the thing people can recover, people can change, brains can change if you re- if you if you train them to act differently, and lives can improve. There are ways to rewire your thinking. So let's get into the next the next part of this. The brain can change. One of the greatest discoveries in neuroscience is neuroplasticity. If you've heard that term, or you may have not heard that term, it's a way to create new neural pathways in your brain by thinking differently or doing things differently. You you can think differently.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

This is neuroplasticity is what happens when somebody has a stroke.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:34

If someone they have to relearn certain ways to do things, and the brain is responsible for another great example of that, Matt, is somebody who has aphasia.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

I don't know if you know that term. But but it it's it's the inability to recall words or ideas or the thing you're thinking of. But these people are able to rewire their brains to work around the blockage and then get the information they need. Yep. So so it can be done. And I've seen it. I worked, I again, not to tout myself, but but when I was in grad school, I was working in a facility for traumatic brain injured clients. That whole facility was focused on rewiring the brain and teaching it to think differently because part of it is damaged, right? So you have to find new paths to think about things.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

There is a show that unfortunately has been canceled, but it's called Brilliant Minds. I think I mentioned it to you before. You may have, yeah. Zachary Quinto. Okay, the uh the actor, Spock, yeah, Spock, or or Siler from uh Heroes. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Siler, yeah. He was the bad guy. He was, he was a great bad guy. He was a bad guy, he was a great bad guy, but his character in Brilliant Minds is a neurologist, and he really digs into the brain and helping people overcome certain things and weird things happen. It's like house, but with neurology. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

So the fact is, our brains are consistently rewiring themselves based on experiences, based on emotion, based on actions. Every time you pause before reacting, every time you practice calming techniques, every time you respond differently to a situation that is different than your typical response, you're strengthening new neural pathways by doing that. And it's not and here's the thing to think of because people looking at it from the outside may just may just be like, stop getting angry. Yeah, that's a simplistic view, but it's it's the recovery isn't about never getting angry, it's about being angry, but knowing how to process it differently. That is the key because you're gonna be angry, you can't remove that. And as I've said before, probably many times in this podcast, emotions are real, you're gonna have emotions, that's part of life, but it's how you deal with them that makes the difference. Sure.

Triggers Plus Anger Journal Practice

SPEAKER_00 13:54

So, one of the main things, and then the first step that we would do if I had somebody in my office with this diagnosis, is that we need to identify triggers. What happens before some of these episodes occur? Sure. Like what leads up to it. And sometimes they're obvious, but but sometimes they're not. Sometimes they're very subtle or very something that that to anyone else would be like, really? They didn't bring my water. They didn't bring my water, David. Again, and we've mentioned some of the things, but I'm just gonna throw a list traffic, disrespect, arguments, poor sleep, stress at work, financial pressure, feeling ignored, feeling embarrassed. These explosions can happen over something very insignificant or tiny. But the emote, and here's the thing the emotional fuel has been building and it's just ready to be ignited by any little thing. And if you look at it that way, it's like this pressure. And we we talked about the pressure hooker in last episode to describe this. The pressure builds and builds and builds, and finally there has to be a release. Right. So the idea of identifying triggers is to identify it before, well before it gets to that point in the very beginning. So one of the things that I encourage my clients to do, I want them to keep an anger journal. Okay. So here's a thing, and and and again, I'm I'm not I'm not just touting things for the for for you know, for whatever, but I also have a certification in anger management. So this is something I deal with a lot, and I and I know what works. So an anger journal is one of the most effective things you can do. So write down what happened, what were you feeling before the incident, how intense was your anger on a scale of one to ten? How long did it last in minutes? And over time, as you start to analyze this, you start to become aware of these things before they start happening or as they're happening, so that you can kind of cut it off. So then we get into therapy. I mean, again, most mental illness it can be helped with therapy. And I know I'm gonna be realistic. I'm a therapist, I'm biased, it's what I do, it's what I've been doing for 34 years. A lot of people would be like therapy, you're gonna go and talk about it. What good is that gonna do? But but no, here's the thing for this, therapy does work, it's not simply talking about childhood or uncovering past traumas, although that may be part of it. But therapy nowadays, it teaches you skills. So cognitive behavioral therapy specifically helps challenge and challenge distorted thinking patterns, patterns that don't make sense. Acceptance and commitment therapy teaches people to notice emotions but not take action on them. You can say, I feel this way, but I don't have to do anything. Dialectical behavioral therapy, which is dbt for short, uh, teaches emotional regulation.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Not to not to be confused with the wrestling move DDT. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

Yes, absolutely. And then some individuals also benefit from just trauma-focused therapies if they have earlier life issues that have that have caused some emotional dysregulation. Let's say. Okay. So now we're gonna get into another area that can be super helpful, which is

Hypnosis And The Sports Mindset

SPEAKER_00 17:26

hypnosis. Okay. Hypnosis is probably one of the best options to try to treat this disorder. Now, here's the thing, it's not a cure. I I can't say you'll be fixed with it, but what it is is that it helps reduce stress, improve relaxation, increase awareness of these emotional triggers and reinforce healthier coping responses. And also, people people with hypnosis we teach them how to practice breathing, visualization, and emotional self-regulation. Because when we use hypnosis, people get into a state, what we call it in the hypnosis lingo, we call it the trance state. And I know that sounds scary to some people, but it's that state of mind where your conscious mind is not fighting and arguing and making noise, it's just quiet. Athletes, athletes do it all the time. Athletes is a great example because especially, you know, individual type sports, like golf, tennis, gymnastics, baseball is actually a good one, especially for hitters, because if you've ever played sports, I played baseball in high school, and this is something I've experienced. When baseball players get into what they call a slump, they might go 0 for 20. They might go 20 at bats without a hit. And their feeling is they're never gonna get a hit again. Right. And that just compounds the problem. It becomes it becomes worse. If you you're just you're kind of making that hole deeper, but changing that, that, the, the, the, the thought about it, the thinking about it, that's what makes a difference.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

What's really intriguing to me in regards to sports is golf. All right. I know you go, I know you're a golfer, I know you know I golf, but you watch golfers today, and with what we know today, you can see them really just in their own heads in a good way. Yes, right.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

And I and I will say, Matt, that's a great example because I I because I golf, I watch a lot of golf video on YouTube. Sure. I'm you know, I'm subscribed to Danny Maud and Rick Shields, and Bob does sports and all the golf channels. And and again, a lot of those guys they teach technique, but but some of them focus on the mental part. Sure. One of the major things that that that a lot of them just stress is like before you're shot, you need to stand back behind the ball, visualize exactly what's going to happen.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

You watch it, put it in your head. I I know he's going through a lot of issues right now, but tiger. Okay, yep. You go back and watch his videos, yes, you know, the the footage they got him. You see him visualize, walk behind the ball. He looks down the lane, and he's got hundreds, thousands of people on either side of him, down the fairway. Yep, he's just he's so laser focused, locked in. That is that state of trance that you're referring to. Yes, absolutely. Go on.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

Yes.

Repair Trust With Real Apologies

SPEAKER_00 20:24

So the the other thing that we have to look at with IED is is it it can damage relationships. And you can imagine if somebody's always, I shouldn't say always, but with IED, people freak out, and that scares people. People fear for their safety, they feel for they they they they are concerned about the safety of the individual experiencing this. So one of the big things is repairing relationships. But what this does, it's not you giving in and just saying, oh, but they win. It's not like that at all. The apologies that you give help you heal, it helps you feel better. Because when you have these episodes, you feel you feel guilt, you feel bad about them, you feel bad about the people that that were affected by it. So healing isn't just internal, apologies are necessary. So here's but here's the thing this is not this is not an apology. I'm sorry, I couldn't help it. Yeah, that's that's not an apology.

SPEAKER_01 21:26

The the the tough part of that is if you do have a spouse family member that that holds a grudge, and they hold that grudge so long that it comes back three years later, you might have another episode. Sure. And then they bring what happened three years back. Sure. That grudge is there. That is not helpful.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

No, no, it's it's when you hold on to things, it's never helpful. No. So so the but the apology for for people who are dealing with this, the apology should be I hurt you, I take responsibility. I'm working to do better. That is the best way to address it. Because trust returns then. And the people can at least understand what, because here's here's the dynamic. And I've seen it in my office numerous times doing family therapy. Somebody with IED, they're looked at as the bad guy. Right. He's ruining our marriage. He's ruining our family. His behaviors, uh, we can't take it anymore. But but they're not looking at it as a mental illness, they're looking at it as the person just being an asshole. And that's not what it is. That that this is not in their control. And I know that sounds like a cop-out or an excuse.

SPEAKER_01 22:37

It's pseudo, yes, but at the same time, there's a reason why. Right. And let's figure out the reason why. Absolutely. And it could be the family household dynamic at that point.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

It could be, and it could be something that that may maybe the parents were always very aggressive and and punitive. And I don't know. There are a lot of factors that could play in.

SPEAKER_03 23:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everyone's different.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

So here's the thing that you have to do if you have IEDs, you have to build new habits. You that this would go back to the neuroplasticity idea. We have to create new neural pathways in your mind. Daily habits matter. So, and and these are these are common sense things, but these are so important. Daily exercise, yeah, walking, jogging, working out, whatever it is, sleeping at least seven to eight hours every night on a normal schedule. The best you can. The best you can. Uh, mindfulness techniques, again, just being aware of what's going on, what's happening right in this moment, breathing exercises, eating habits. You need to eat well to feel well. I and again, these sound so simplistic, but these make a huge difference. Here's something that that I'm aware of, but I've never seen it stated in an article or study. Low blood sugar can cause irritability. Oh, yeah. So people who have who have diabetes that may that may that may play into this. They they sometimes they call it hangry, but it's just real, it's just the blood sugar is low. Yep. So here's so so maybe you maybe you feel like maybe this is me, because I I I get these things where I just lose my mind and I flip out and I don't know why. So when should you seek help? Number one, after you get a Snickers bar. If you've if you've ever become physically violent, okay, yeah. I it doesn't matter if it's one time or a hundred. If it's happened once, that's an issue. You need to get help. One time is enough. If you've ever had a if you've ever involved a weapon, weapon could be a glass thrown at somebody. Right. I'm not talking about firearms necessarily or knives, but anything that could hurt someone. Candlestick in this in the study. If you frighten your children, if someone has ever been injured because of your behavior, if any of those things are happening, you need you need to get help immediately. Sure. Because what will happen is that one there might be one instance where you go too far and it's something you can't take back or can't fix. Right. If you seriously injure somebody, that that it's hard to come back from that. Very and here's the thing the shame comes from the act from the act of doing it and the shame afterwards. But the big thing is get help because that's much less shameful than hurting a family member or friend or child. That is the big thing. So

Support, Boundaries, And Closing Notes

SPEAKER_00 25:37

here's the thing. If you're if you're if you're listening to this episode, you might have some connection to this, whether it's you, whether it's a family member. The biggest thing is your actions in those few moments when you're experiencing this does not define you. No. That that that is an and I've said this to clients, and I've said it probably on this podcast, you're not your diagnosis. And I've I stress this to clients a lot. I'll get clients that come in first session, they say, Oh, I had a therapist years ago, they diagnose me as schizophrenic. And I'm like, okay, well, that's fine, but let let's let me let's talk and see where I believe you're at. And a lot of times people take a hold of a diagnosis and that becomes their their personality. They they they kind of they kind of embrace it rather than saying, oh, well, what can I do to get better? Right. I'm gonna live with it and just exactly. So the big thing is you're not your diagnosis and you're not broken. Your brain is a is your brain is a is a organ that produces patterns and it works in patterns. But here's the big thing your brain can learn new patterns. It can. Now it might be difficult, it's not perfect, it may take some time, but if you're committed to changing your thinking, you can do that. And that's why hypnosis becomes a very effective tool at just calming down the brain. Because again, in theory, well, in practice, also, I'm I'm saying in theory, like it doesn't exist, but when we do hypnosis, it's the most relaxed you can be without being asleep. And I guarantee if you had that feeling in instead of this this uprising of emotion and anger, it's going to be less likely to happen because your mind is in that calm, relaxed state. And and learning to just get there as quickly as you can when you're feeling any sort of frustration or any type, just again, we need to take action when that first little thing starts to happen that makes you feel like, uh-oh. I'm I'm I'm I feel frustrated. You have to take action immediately.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

And IED is I'm sorry, you've said it so many times. That's fine. IED. Intermittent explosive disorder, intermittent explosive disorder. We you just look on social media pages, you just look around you and and you can see that it is it's affecting a lot of people around. Absolutely. Yes, you need to be cognizant of those things, but then also as a supporter, as someone that can that can help them, right? Do you want to put yourself into that situation? Do are you going to fight or flight? Right. If you see it, are you going to walk away or are you going to become a part of the solution?

SPEAKER_00 28:31

And to be fair, Matt, that the the the natural instinct of most human beings are to get away from it. Sure. Nobody wants to see somebody punching walls or throwing things or yelling or screaming. Yeah, well, we we want to get away from that as as quickly as we can. The problem is, what if it's your child? What if it's your parent? What if it's your sibling? What if it's your best friend? Yeah, you know, I and again, I I I don't want to make excuses because behavior is behavior, but but we have to look at the reasons for it and say, you can be, you can be, you can set boundaries, but still be supportive. Got it. That is the key thing. That's fair. And you can just say, listen, I'm not gonna be around you when you're like this. I'm here to support you if you want to get help. Right. That is the big thing. And and as I've said to so many clients over the years, you know, every client that comes into my office the first time, everybody's effed up, everybody has things they need to work on, nobody's perfect. There are degrees, of course, but if somebody's working on something, then support them with that. You know, even if it's not perfect, it's never going to be perfect. Healing is a progress, it doesn't happen overnight. Sure. It's change over time. And here's the thing once people start having calmer conversations or better relationships, or think to themselves, I haven't had an angry outburst in months. It it changes the whole way they approach things because not they're like, I don't need to go back to that. This is so much better. Sure. And once you get there, you'll feel it, you'll see it. So here's the thing if you have this or you know somebody that does, definitely seek out treatment. That's the best thing. Got it. And again, implement some of the strategies we've talked about as far as an anger journal. I think that is probably one of the most effective things because it makes you aware of what happens before you freak out. And that is the key thing to catch it early, to head it off before it gets too bad. All right. There's a lot, it's a lot, and I know it's it's so those of you who are listening. I mean, if you have any questions on this topic, I know I know we do podcasts on all kinds of different things, but you know, reach out through my Facebook page. You know, I'd be happy to answer questions or talk to you about it. But the big thing is that that this can be a very difficult thing to deal with. It's broken up families, it's broken up marriages. It it's difficult. It's a lot, it's a lot to deal with, especially for those who are on the outside trying to help the person who's dealing with it. And and it's easy to say, it's easy to say, you know what, I'm not dealing with this anymore. You need to just go away, whatever. Dismiss them.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

Right.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

But the thing is, they need help. That that that's the bottom line. Even though, even though you're looking at them and you're you're not happy with them and you're disappointed and you're scared and you're angry, they they need help. So, you know, encourage them to get the help they need. Got it. And and it can get better. I'm telling you, I've seen it. I've seen it get better. So that is intermittent explosive disorder.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

It's a lot. So do your own research, do your own due diligence around it if you like David said.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

And I'm gonna say if you have questions on this, reach out. You can do some reading on it. I you know, and and I know there are a lot of people out there who might be like, uh, these diagnoses, they're just made up to give excuses to for people to act like fools. That's that's that's not true. And in in this case, that is not the fact, that is not the case. All righty, folks. That is our episode intermittent explosive disorder. So before we go, somebody needs a home. Who would be polo? Polo. I've never heard of this dog. Okay, a catahool leopard dog. Catahool leopard dog? Let me see this. He's three years old. He's a male, he's 61 pounds.

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Okay, Palo. Catal. Look at the marbling on that young man. Holy shnikes. Well, and I I have a feeling that's why it's called a leopard dog. Yeah, that would be my guess. Look at those spots. Brown, black, gray. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a handsome dude. Yeah, he is. He's got really bright eyes, too.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Yeah, he's got those, yeah. He's got those white blue eyes.

SPEAKER_03 32:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

So, anyway, Pablo needs a home. Detroit dogrescue.com slash adopt. Please do it. Give him look look at him. He just he just wants to sit on your bed and just relax. That's what he's doing right now. Going at him, yeah. Alrighty, folks, that is our show. We'll be back next week. I don't know what we're gonna talk about, but it'll probably be good. Who knows? We know. In the meantime, change your thinking, change your life, laugh hard, run fast, be kind. We'll see you next time.