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FGM Turns 200! with Laura Reynolds
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Episode 212: FGM Turns 200! with Laura Reynolds
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In this week's episode, we continue FGM Turns 200!, a mini-series where we talk to Ensemble for These Times' members and past guest artists. Today, we are joined by E4TT’s guest English hornist Laura Reynolds, who we spoke to in April 2025. If you enjoyed today’s conversation and want to know more about Laura Reynolds, check her out here: https://sfcm.edu/discover/student-resources/library/archives/oral-history-project/student-resources/library/archives/oral-history-project/laura-reynolds.
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Intro music: “Trifolium” by Gabriela Ortiz, performed by E4TT (Ilana Blumberg, violin; Abigail Monroe, cello; Margaret Halbig, piano), as part of “Below the Surface: Music by Women Composers,” January 29, 2022
Outro music: “Lake Turkana” by Marcus Norris, performed by E4TT (Margaret Halbig, piano), as part of “Alchemy,” October 15, 2021
Transcription courtesy of Otter.ai.
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Nanette McGuinness 00:00
[INTRO MUSIC] Welcome to For Good Measure, an interview series celebrating diverse composers and other creative artists. I'm Nanette McGuinness, Artistic Executive Director of Ensemble for These Times. In this week's episode, we are joined by guest oboist Laura Reynolds. [INTRO MUSIC ENDS]
Nanette McGuinness 00:26
Thank you so much for agreeing to join us.
Laura Reynolds 00:30
My pleasure.
Nanette McGuinness 00:32
Could you tell us a bit about your musical path, please?
Laura Reynolds 00:35
Sure, I started the oboe when I was a kid in fourth grade at the encouragement of my father, who was a music band director, and by the time I got to high school, I knew that orchestra was one of my favorite things, and I thought, well, if I could make a living doing this, I would try. So I went to music school and did my undergrad at the University of Michigan, and then I came to the conservatory to study with Bill Bennett, who was recommended to me by my teacher at Michigan, and I finished my master's degree, and right away got a job with the Santa Rosa Symphony, so I decided to stay in the Bay Area to enjoy that position, and I continued working at the Conservatory as a staff member, and then I picked up some other orchestra jobs along the way. So now I'm also in the Marin Symphony and the California Symphony, and I've been teaching for a long time, I was at UC Davis as the oboe teacher there, and now I'm at Sonoma State University, and I also teach in the pre-college at the Conservatory, where I serve as associate director for pre-college and summer programs.
Nanette McGuinness 01:56
Wonderful, a lovely path, actually. [laughs] Obviously, he was right, but do you know what persuaded your dad to suggest the oboe?
Laura Reynolds 02:08
It's not very.. I mean, he, he learned when he was in college a particular method of assigning instruments to students, and by his estimation, the oboe was a good match for me and I was not really allowed to...
Nanette McGuinness 02:27
[laughs]
Laura Reynolds 02:28
[laughs] ...play the flute, which I asked for, and he said, well, actually, no, you don't have the right facial structure for the flute, but secretly I think it was he didn't want me to compete with so many flute players.
Nanette McGuinness 02:43
That makes a lot of sense, actually.
Laura Reynolds 02:44
Yeah.
Nanette McGuinness 02:44
There are a lot more flute players than oboe players.
Laura Reynolds 02:47
Yeah.
Nanette McGuinness 02:47
And I should say, for the people listening, you are a very fine oboe player.
Laura Reynolds 02:52
[laughs] Thank you. He might have been on to something. It did seem to take.
Nanette McGuinness 02:58
[laughs] I'd be curious to know about this method that he learned, to be honest, it sounds fascinating.
Laura Reynolds 03:04
Yeah, I think it was like the cut and dried, you know, like manual for picking the path of least resistance for certain students, you know, like if you had, he said I had a little dip in the... in my lip, so that would make making a sound on the flute less easy, so I shouldn't play the flute because of that, but I know plenty of professional successful flute players who learn to make the embouchure just slightly to the side of that dip in their lips, so like you know...
Nanette McGuinness 03:33
[laughs]
Laura Reynolds 03:34
[laughs]
Nanette McGuinness 03:36
Who knows, right?
Laura Reynolds 03:37
Yep.
Nanette McGuinness 03:38
So, maybe it was the competition part?
Laura Reynolds 03:42
You got to ask the Fredonia University Music faculty from the 60s.
Nanette McGuinness 03:47
[laughs] Should they be willing to come out of retirement...
Laura Reynolds 03:52
Right. [laughing]
Nanette McGuinness 03:53
...and still around. Well, it worked for you, so I'm certainly grateful having worked with you.
Laura Reynolds 04:00
[laughs]
Nanette McGuinness 04:00
Yeah, so tell me about the performing you've done with E4TT or performing with E4TT.
Laura Reynolds 04:07
Yeah, it's been great. I love E4TT. Thanks for inviting me the many times that you have. I know the connection through David Garner was partially how I came to play with you guys, and I've been a big fan of his music since I was a student at the conservatory, and getting the chance to like shine as a chamber musician on English horn, particularly, is not that often that you get that opportunity, so I really appreciate that, and to know that... that sound, particularly, was what he wanted, was like, particularly my style of playing the English horn was very flattering, and then we have such a great rehearsal cycle, like there's a plenty of time for addressing the details.
Nanette McGuinness 05:01
[laughs]
Laura Reynolds 05:01
[laughs] ...and learning music, learning new music, and bringing it to the world like that. That's been great. I appreciate working with you when you're singing and working with just the instrumentalists for the other pieces that we've done. It's been really wonderful.
Nanette McGuinness 05:18
Oh, well, thank you. We've loved working with you, and yeah, what happened was David was going to write... I'm trying to remember, I think it's maybe the third song cycle, he was writing for me and the group...
Laura Reynolds 05:30
mmhmm
Nanette McGuinness 05:30
...and we were talking about instrumentation, and as I recall, he said English horn would be great for this, and I know the perfect person, I'll introduce you to her, and that's that's how it happened, and then after we worked with you once, so we were always, or at least I was, but everybody agreed, looking for opportunities to work with you again, because you're, you're so nice to work with. So...
Laura Reynolds 05:52
Thank you.
Nanette McGuinness 05:53
You're welcome. Yeah, no, it's a pleasure. Is there anything you have coming up that you'd like to share with us?
Laura Reynolds 06:00
Well, I'll say we're recording this in the middle of April, and the end of the concert season is upon us, and I've got two opportunities to play Holst's The Planets...
Nanette McGuinness 06:14
ooo...
Laura Reynolds 06:15
...where one week I'm doing it with Santa Rosa Symphony, and a few weeks later I'm doing it with San Jose Symphony as a guest musician there, so that's a very dramatic piece that we don't often get to play, so I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, and then we're also doing Santa Rosa Symphony, is doing this great Beethoven Symphony cycle on our road to our 100th anniversary of the orchestra, so this is the second year of that five year cycle, and we're doing, I think, it's symphonies two and five the first week of June, and that's like leading up towards Beethoven No. 9 on our 100th anniversary in 2028. So that's a long range goal. I'm looking forward to playing every one of those concerts...
Nanette McGuinness 07:04
mmhmm
Laura Reynolds 07:04
...and yeah, all of next season is just coming into focus. I know there's a Mahler Symphony in Santa Rosa. I'm really looking forward. I am hired as a soloist with the Ukiah Symphony. I'm going to play Barber's Canzonetta and a double oboe concerto with one of my adult students with that orchestra by Albinoni, so that'll be fun. And in between this summer, I'm running all the summer camps at the Conservatory...
Nanette McGuinness 07:04
[laughs]
Laura Reynolds 07:04
...so that's always fun to meet a lot of young musicians who are excited to be at camp, doing nothing but their music passion for that week.
Nanette McGuinness 07:04
Yeah.
Laura Reynolds 07:11
So that will be very rejuvenating, even though it's also exhausting. [laughs]
Nanette McGuinness 07:12
[laughs] I imagine it is, but you're right, it's kind of seeing the future of the... of the field coming through. It must be kind of exciting.
Laura Reynolds 07:58
Yeah.
Nanette McGuinness 08:00
Yeah, I think it's Beethoven's 5th that has a prominent part for you, as I recall. If I'm hearing it in my ear correctly.
Laura Reynolds 08:06
Well, it definitely has that little cadenza in the first movements.
Nanette McGuinness 08:09
Yeah, that's what I'm hearing. [laughs]
Laura Reynolds 08:11
Yeah. [laughs]
Nanette McGuinness 08:13
Nice. This sounds like great plans. And right now, I have to admit, we don't have oboe or English horn in our next season, but I'm always looking for opportunities to throw you into our season, hopefully not under the bus, but... [laughs]
Laura Reynolds 08:30
[laughs] ...no, it's never under the bus. Can I share some of my favorite times... is when we went down to Los Angeles and did the recording project.
Nanette McGuinness 08:42
Yeah.
Laura Reynolds 08:42
Really fun. Was that the Open Door cycle?
Nanette McGuinness 08:46
Yeah Die eichne Tuer, exactly. That was, and gosh, was that it was either 2018 or 19? Is that right?
Laura Reynolds 08:46
Yeah, it was pre-pandemic for sure.
Nanette McGuinness 08:56
Yeah, and that recording, golly, that recording came out, I'm thinking in either 2020 or 2022 I can't remember...
Laura Reynolds 09:07
mmhmm
Nanette McGuinness 09:08
...at this point, maybe 2020. So, yeah.
Laura Reynolds 09:11
But that was... I particularly enjoyed that piece. And then last season I really enjoyed doing the Berg Seven Songs arrangements.
Nanette McGuinness 09:20
Oh yeah,.
Laura Reynolds 09:21
Because I was not that familiar with that piece, and then to get to know it in a chamber music setting was really, really great.
Nanette McGuinness 09:29
Yeah, you know, I really agree with you. I loved Die eichne Tuer, that... it's a great cycle, always hard to pick one's favorites, but possibly my favorite of the ones that David has written for me...
Laura Reynolds 09:41
Yeah.
Nanette McGuinness 09:41
...and it's, it's got such impact as well, and yeah, you're right, the recording sessions were fun. That was... it was part of our tour to Los Angeles that we were able to arrange to do that after we performed there. So, yeah, you're right, and the Berg, such a fabulous song cycle, had always been on my bucket list for us to do, for me to do, and of course there were family issues that made me have to bow out, but I was really happy to hear it in a, in a chamber arrangement, you know. So, and I'm glad you joined us for that. So, yeah, thank you for thinking of those. Those were both wonderful things.
Laura Reynolds 10:20
Yeah.
Nanette McGuinness 10:21
Is there anything else you'd like to talk about or share with the podcast audience?
Laura Reynolds 10:28
Please continue your work in...
Nanette McGuinness 10:30
[laughs]
Laura Reynolds 10:30
...championing women composers and women musicians who you know still are sometimes sidelined even in the 21st century, so I really appreciate the mission of E4TT, and I look forward to watching it continue to grow for hopefully many, many years.
Nanette McGuinness 10:52
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Nanette McGuinness 10:56
[OUTRO MUSIC] Thank you for listening to For Good Measure, and a special thank you to our guest, Laura Reynolds, for joining us today. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to our podcast by clicking on the subscribe button and support us by sharing it with your friends, posting about it on social media and leaving us a rating and a review. To learn more about E4TT, our concert season online and in the Bay Area, or to make a tax-deductible donation, please visit us at www.E4TT.org. This podcast is made possible by grants from the California Arts Council, the San Francisco Arts Commission, Grants for the Arts, and generous donors like you. For Good Measure is produced by Nanette McGuinness and Ensemble for These Times, and design by Brennan Stokes, with special thanks to Co-producer and Audio Engineer Stephanie M. Neumann. Remember to keep supporting equity in the arts and tune in next week "for good measure." [OUTRO MUSIC ENDS]