Get Enlifted

Ep. 72: Talk Yourself into Showing Up with Dennis Morolda, Mark England, and Kimberly Kesting

September 20, 2023 Dennis Morolda, Kimberly Kesting, Mark England Season 2 Episode 72
Get Enlifted
Ep. 72: Talk Yourself into Showing Up with Dennis Morolda, Mark England, and Kimberly Kesting
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This episode is a reshare from the Building Men podcast- host Dennis Morolda has us laughing, dropping knowledge, and taking trips down memory lane with this interview of Kimberly & Mark about the Enlifted Experience.

In this episode:

  • The origin stories of how Kimberly & Mark met, how they started working together and how the Enlifted team has grown.
  • How one weekend party at The Lake House turned into repeat events, which turned into unofficial coaching masterminds, and now turned into a full blown professional event for coaches
  • The Enlifted Experience: how the idea started years ago, why we're finally doing it, and what you'll get out of the weekend

Get your tickets to the Enlifted Experience - October 6-8th in Richmond, VA.

Speaker 1:

Get control of your words, get control of your story, get control of your breath, get over your fear of not being good enough, get your dream clients, get them results and get in lifted.

Speaker 2:

So welcome to the Building man podcast everyone. As always, I am your host, dennis Moralda. Join today by two very important people in my life, guess on the Building man podcast a couple different times. So we have started with Mark Englund on July 13th of 2021. It's two and a hook years since we've known each other, Mark. That's episode number 68. And then I interviewed Kimberly Casting on November 14th of 21. That was episode 93. And then we followed up with one of the top building men podcasts as far as all time downloads. I think this one is 15,000 downloads right now, and that's episode 105. And that was world class presentation skills from December 23rd of 21. So that was one that I'll listen back to that episode time to time before I have a big speech or presentation coming up. Kimberly Casting, mark Englund, welcome to the podcast guys.

Speaker 1:

Dennis, did you just admit to inflating your podcast download numbers by listening to it yourself?

Speaker 2:

That's right. As soon as it comes out. I do that anyway. I remember when I first started the podcast is July of 2020. It got eight downloads and it was my mom, my brother, you know and then I listened to it from my phone, from my computer, on Spotify, on Apple podcast. So I was absolutely doing that when the podcast started 100% building men exclusive. Thanks for calling that out. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

Listen, you know, we just got to know, we just got to know the truth.

Speaker 2:

Full, transparent here. I did absolutely do that right when the podcast started. So what I want to know, first and foremost, before we get into the big event, which is one of the reasons why we're doing this episode today I'd love to go back and hear the origin story as Kimberly and Mark have come together in this conglomeration of enlisted individuals that is ever growing every day. It's like growing leaps and bounds. So, kimberly, I'll start with you from your recollection of your first experience meeting Mark. Like, tell us a little bit about that. Where did it come from? Why did you reach out to Mark or he reached out to you?

Speaker 1:

So there's a there's a collection of memories at flash before my eyes and I'll just give you a scene from each A man in a red tracksuit with a gold dragon on the back, a man in a living room poisoning people and something about abracadabra. And each of those were separate instances and it's Mark England. And I first was introduced to Mark from Mike Bledsoe, who was one of my mentors in business coaching and fitness coaching, and each one of those scenarios was oh, and there was a scene in Mexico where we dropped him off on the side of the road to pick up a kettlebell after he had been adamantly talking about it all day long. Mark is an interesting individual, so a collection of those scenes, as you can imagine, very different than our professional relationship, and it was very clear to me being around Mark in a in various all said scenes that this guy operated differently than most people that I interacted with is very solid, very certain, very much like going to get some things done and have fun doing it.

Speaker 1:

So once I got introduced to Mark's work professionally, I was coaching as a nutrition coach, working full time as a coach, coming, you know, doing my best with trying to motivate people into changing their diet and hold them accountable to putting the cheesecake down on Saturdays, and I was coming up with a lot of resistance in changing the core story of their mindset.

Speaker 1:

And I was introduced to Mark and goal setting and removing soft talk and just after having experienced him in real life, I'm like, okay, this guy, what he's talking about makes sense and it is about the words.

Speaker 1:

And okay, all right, I'll take the certification that he's invited me to two or three times and I've said no each time and now I'm ready to say yes. And I didn't know what I was saying yes to until I was in class and you know, we'll save those secrets for those who choose to embark. But ultimately the evolution became, you know, first meeting Mark in social environments, friend settings, then into learning from him as my own mentor and guide, helping me radically transform how I was coaching and really be able to support people much deeper. And then the story of how I came to join the team was a matter of a Mark introducing me to Adam, his business partner that he'd been working with for many years, and was like hey, you know some things about social media. Well, you talked to Adam. We want to hire somebody to do that, and then the next chapter begins.

Speaker 3:

It started, it was a big deal when Adam accurately identified hers. She's like the white Beyonce we needed. It was me and him man, and we're both different flavors of very dude and we needed someone like Kimberly with a, you know, just a fantastic I know I interrupted the fantastic bedside manner community just a very feminine approach to what we were doing, yeah, and then when he called her that, I was like huh, yeah, okay, hey, all those people that I poisoned, they lived All right.

Speaker 2:

So here's what I'm going to do right now. First, quick shout out to two other guests. I mean you mentioned Mike Bledsoe, guests on the podcast episode 76, and Adam Chin, guests in the podcast, episode 81. So we're, you know, just as we're talking, just all the the old heads that are coming back into play. So, Kimberly, as you were talking, as Mark was listening, I was, I was watching Mark's nonverbals and the song by the human league came into my mind.

Speaker 2:

This song is don't you want me, baby. Do you remember that song? Don't you want me, baby? 80s was the best Absolutely. And whenever I have you on, Mark, I have to, I have to throw in some some old school songs, right? So that song is told from the perspective of the guy and the girl. Right, he goes, you know she goes. I was working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, that much is true. So my singing is. It needs some work there. I'll try to get a little background music on that as well. But, Mark, from your perspective, right? So you know, Kimberly just told a couple of things of the guy in the red jumpsuit with the, the tiger on the back or the dragon on the back, and then there's the, the poison, the kettlebell. Pick out one of those stories and tell it from your perspective, your recollection of that scenario with Kim.

Speaker 3:

I handed her the look of excitement on her face when I handed her 400, $400 bills and she said go get snacks for everyone at the lake house. And she it was like the best thing ever. There was also keys to the Jeep. Keys to the Jeep yeah, not everybody reacts that way when you know they're offered a task to go take care of the people people. And she did that and I was like, okay, that's cool. The Lake House has been a magical place for Enlifted. It's been HQ. We've had more sessions with myself and Adam and Vanda when it was Procabulary and it was just us and there's fumes in the bank. For month after month after month, we shot the first or first and the third online course there. How many parties have we had there, kimberly?

Speaker 1:

One to two a year, that are like notable.

Speaker 3:

Notable as in packet full of people and get out of the way. The first one you were at the first one there was 17 dudes and you and Goober, you were okay with that, Like okay, yeah, fine, they had their place back in the back and yeah. So Kimberly's fun to work with, she's very fun to work with and she handles Adam and I's dudeness very well, compliments it very well. She just wins. So it's like same thing with the podcast. It's what is what's help her do what she wants to do and know will work and she's got a fantastic track record. So in your fantastic people, skills built for podcasting. The two winners of the National Machine Gun Mouth Championship Award okay, the two winners so far in the enlisted community out of 300 and 70 graduates, One of them is Kimberly and one of them is Ryan Sprague, and they both we both walked into level one and it was like this All right.

Speaker 3:

You're just worse.

Speaker 3:

fly it everywhere, and I was like okay, Like you know what I'm good at One of the things I'm good at picking and choosing my coaching interactions and so I was like, okay, eventually we're going to slow that down, which we did, which helped. And then she was like, wow, that helped. And then she took level two. I believe that was in the last two days and she took level two. I believe that was you were had taken level two, and that was right around the time we were looking for someone to help with social. Yes, she built her place and then lifted and lifted, built her place for her. It's just been, it's been, it's worked. It's worked well. Yeah, it's been very organic.

Speaker 2:

As I hear stories of the lake house and Kimberl asked you this question as an outsider this is Mark's you know space. Right To me in my mind it's like happy Gilmore's happy place. You know, before he's getting ready to put you know he goes to his happy place and his happy place is like it's a dwarf riding on a, on a pony. There's like a hot girl in lingerie. There's Chubbs McGee getting ready, like I see that all swirling around. Tell us from your perspective, what is the lake house like?

Speaker 1:

That's how you just described it, right, pretty close, um, yeah, well, here's. The best part about it is that it is beautifully decorated and outfitted home, right. So it's like you walk in and you feel immediately, you feel like you're at home and there's like a cute little sign outside the door that says friends gather here. And so it's very unsuspecting, because you can tell that it is a family home and that it is built for to host a lot of people, because there's a lot of space in there for people to sleep. And yet, at the same time, you're like, huh, what type of, what type of energy is this going to be?

Speaker 1:

You walk out, you see this gorgeous, beautiful lake, a perfectly manicured lawn, a lovely sunroom, with my favorite spot in the house, and uh, and then, as more people start coming in and it's always a revolving door you never really know who's going to come in next or what's going to happen. The party creates itself because, because the people who gather there bring the flavor of experience, and so the the first gathering that Mark is uh, that Mark referenced, uh was hysterical because it was me, one of my girlfriends and 17 dudes. I knew what I was getting into because I knew most of those 17 dudes and had had, uh, previous gatherings similar to them. What I didn't really know was what was going to happen.

Speaker 1:

Strong coach dudes yeah, it was all strong coach dudes and like these were, these guys were my friends, like I didn't. I didn't think it was like you know, I was just like, oh okay, they're all here, this is cool, until it started to get to the point where it was like a total dude fest and I was like I need, I need some incense or something like help. But we had a lot of fun. And then so the the gatherings after that were, um, you know, it's like you get a rhythm for how, how the scene is going to set itself, just based on what characters come in. And one of the best things about the whole experience is that they were organic friendships that were built, that also had some sort of professional ties, so people understood, like, what each other did or how they could, how they could learn from each other or build or network together. And then eventually it started to turn into these, these consistent gatherings of people that it became. During the day there was podcasting, there was um business development conversations, there's people, uh, developing courses, working on their marketing, like all of that's happening during the day, and then at night we're like turn on the red light and we're playing good music and we're having fun and the uh, if Ryan Sprague's there, the volcano bags are blowing and you know it's people. Uh, relax a little more. You know people are, we share meals together or having fun.

Speaker 1:

Those experiences started to they. They organically created themselves, cause what it is is if you put people in a room who have enough in common and who are go getters and who want to have a good time and have come through Mark and myself and Adam and in a way that they have learned about language and they've learned about how to control their story, there's it's a magic portal because everybody comes in, and they came in with a problem that they want to solve in their business. They came in with a, a motion. They want to let go of something that's challenging in their life. They're coming in with the intention to have a good time and to bring good energy to the group and that, oh, that's just a recipe for success. And so what we've started to realize was like then we start, you know I mean, maybe Mark knew this the whole time I don't know.

Speaker 1:

What I started to realize was that this was like a really great way for people to come together and very similar to a retreat, you know like, escape out of your own life. Come here for three or four days, connect with people who are in the same industry as you, working towards the same goals. As you have fun, play, enjoy, relax and then get out of here and go back to your life and and uh, integrate what you learned. These gatherings just kept getting better and better and better, and we had more and more people we wanted to invite, and so the enlisted experience is born, which is an actual professional event where we're intentionally gathering people from much of the same dynamic and vibe. And you know, you, you can't have a hundred people in a four bedroom house. Can't fit them physically, can't.

Speaker 3:

Um, so we maxed it 32. We had 32 people there, so there's beds for 22. It's built for that. But, um, yeah, a hundred. A hundred is a little much.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I mean it sounds like an amazing time. It definitely since I've met both of you, that's something that I've it will happen in the future is getting down to that, to that space. And as you were talking, kimberly, it's like it brought me back to why I got into and lifted in the first place. So now we're talking it's right around now is the two year anniversary of me uh, joining in, lifted officially, uh, going through level one certification. So, as Mark led it, you were, you were as co-pilot, you know, guiding us through, and feel free to pull this as far as what. What I truly believe are the things that make in lifted so special, and I'm going to take four C's Um, the first is community.

Speaker 2:

I really like you just mentioned it Like you had this community feel before it actually happened. You, the event was basically going to run itself based on the community aspect. It feels like family. You have a group of people that are in the same space, of a similar mindset, but within that similar mindset allows for I mean, you have people that are into smoking weed. You have people that are you know that do Olympic events. You have, like you have like a really cool chessboard of different type pieces.

Speaker 2:

Um, in this community there's this idea of competency. Uh, second C is, after going through the experience, like learning how, how we think, about the words we use when we're speaking to ourself and then how that translates into us speaking to other people. It's powerful. So you come out with this level of competency which leads to feeling confident. Before I went through and lifted, I remember having a conversation with you, kimberly, like I don't, I don't know if I could do this, I don't know if I was like listen, first of all, you've been doing this for the last 20 years, working with young men as a principal, but you have this ability right, and so you, you gain this level of competency.

Speaker 2:

Then there's this idea of contribution. So not only are you feeling good about the community, your ability, but you're giving something back. Every single time that you're on a coaching call with a client, you're throwing a pebble into a, into a still pond and that ripple effect that it has. You're able to contribute not only to their mindset but conversations that they're having with other people. And the last one is connection. Most of the clients that I've gotten have been through connections that I have created through this and lifted lifestyle that I'm leading right now. So those four C's is like if someone just tell me or ask me the question, what do I believe it is that it's those four things together, so I'll segue then into taking that experience that you guys had at the lakehouse and you decided to create this event. So, mark, what was the brainchild to create the enlisted event? Where did that conversation start to happen?

Speaker 3:

It started in the car Mike blood so an eye and some, some other people from Encinitas driving down from Encinitas down to South San Diego. It was an event and we're driving down and I go, dude, this is before anything enlisted Anything. This was when we first started talking about it. We called it flow stated. I said, buddy, you know everybody, I'm the mouth of the South, let's throw a festival. He goes yeah, festival, Landmark, that's it. Landmark was a landmark form of it. We go in, do that thing.

Speaker 3:

Go back to Encinitas, wake up the next day and we're like and we had a chalkboard. He had a big chalkboard in his house, which is really cool, and we were writing different things up there. It really like his handwriting is almost as bad as mine, so it looked like he's this just strange formula that only the two people that were writing it could understand. And then we looked at each other and we're like let's do some workshops instead, let's start there. So we did flow stated and I go, I'll do the language in the story. You run the exercise aspect of it. And we did four and they, all of them, worked. And then I get my arm ripped out of socket at a Jiu Jitsu school and fly over to Thailand to get it fixed, turn it into a work retreat, and we're over there, Adam and I. And what?

Speaker 1:

we. I went to one of those workshops you did, yeah, in Boston, and that's when I first met Mike. Well, I had been following like for a long time. I was supposed to go up there for that.

Speaker 3:

That's right.

Speaker 3:

That's right. This is very interesting. I forgot about this, that's right. Oh yeah, I was supposed to go up there for that. And so I get over to what we were going to do, because for the first time, we had like 25K in the bank with Procabulari, because going on, barbell shrugged and selling all the courses and that boosted everything. And now I've got a strong clientele list and that's what we were selling with Procabulari, which was workshops, courses and one-on-one coaching.

Speaker 3:

So we had some money and it was like, let's reshoot core language upgrade. And so I went over to Thailand with that idea in mind, got my elbow fixed super easy. And we're over there and I'm like, dude, you know what? There's something there with Mike. We could take the Procabulari language tech it's all the same tech and point it at the fitness industry. We could make an online course and we'll sell those courses. We'll do core language upgrade later. And he goes. That's interesting. We got on the phone with Mike. Yes, he said yes, and so we made the way of the enlisted athlete and we launched that at PaleoFX May 2019. It turned into the certifications, yeah. So did that answer your question or did I just rant in tangent?

Speaker 2:

No, off the thing. Yeah, you're good at it Because I enjoy this.

Speaker 3:

Trust me, I enjoy. I get so damn consumed. Another thing, another reason why the enlisted community is so cool, is because people take this seriously. People take coaching, they take it seriously, they're serious about it and they're sincere about it. And you put those two things together and less of that victim mentality, garbage, that voice in your head telling you that you suck. Turn the volume down on that, get your breath working for you and it improves people's ability to get hours on the clock, which is very important when it comes to getting things across the finish line. So our work ethic is very real. Our work ethic and competency and potency and enlisted people come out of it better. And so I get so consumed with the day to day stuff I forget about where we've come from, and so this is very fun for me to just dissolve into memory lane and then, yeah, and the idea there is.

Speaker 2:

it's not, I mean you're a 10, 15, 20 year overnight success with this. It goes back quite a way, and even the brainchild of this event. It wasn't just this past summer, it was. You've had this in mind the whole time. You were looking for the time to make your move, and the time to make your move was very recently, and so the event is coming up in the next. It's in less than a month right now.

Speaker 2:

So by the time this podcast airs, it'll be about three weeks away, three and a half weeks away, and it's an event that I am honored to be a part of, and so Kimberly will kick off the event and hand me the microphone, and so I'm the starting pitcher here. You know, I'm the guys taking the ball and taking my spot on the hill. That was what I did when I played college baseball as a starting pitcher, so I'm used to that role and what I'm doing. But I would love to hear from you, kimberly, about like, what is the event going to be like? You know, as if I'm listening, this is the first time I'm hearing about it. Right now, tell me a little bit about what I'm going to experience. Who's going to be there. You know, the give me a little hyperal on this.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely Well. So, as I mentioned about how the lake house like, what was happening organically was that people wanted all the C's you brought together, which is they wanted to connect, which you're going to do when you're put into the same room with people that are all smiling and happy. They want to be able to grow their coaching businesses right, they're working hard towards making their coaching craft a lucrative profession and they want to be able to have a good time doing it. So we've set this event up to meet all of those expectations, which is that you're going to get in the room with people who are doing what you do. You're going to get more skills to get even better at what you do, whether that's coaching with the in lifted method, getting exposed to the in lifted method for the first time, or developing some of the business aspects. Right, we're bringing in experts around marketing and sales and storytelling and sales, and we're setting people up with the opportunity to integrate what they're learning as a craft from coaching alongside with the business development piece. And so this whole weekend is work and play, and it's important that we've made space for both and we've set up both, because we want people to be able to come in with really the opportunity to experience in lifted in person, which is a very special thing. People who come to in lifted events like always come back to the next one, because it is difficult to describe with words what you will experience with being in a room with people in this way.

Speaker 1:

And to highlight some of the things the way that we're breaking out this event it's over three days and we're going to be setting up live podcasting, which we're going to get to do. We're going to have networking opportunities. People can walk around, talk to each other, connect. We're going to have speakers on stage. Dennis will be one of them. We've got breakout workshops to go through different ways to apply the in method, in lifted method. Whether you're a fitness coach, a health coach, you want to learn more about your business, you want to just connect with other coaches and you want to talk about how to how you guys use this, the same or different.

Speaker 1:

And then we're going to have Saturday night the headline experience. We've got an outdoor amphitheater at this place called Dogwood, dillon, richmond, which is just. It is perfect for what we're going to be doing because it is a outdoor, big tiered stands that are grass and everybody can just like sit and be in the earth. We're going to have Mark going through live and lift in method coaching so we'll pull people from the crowd to get coached and to work through the method together and for people to see that and done in real time. And then we are going to have a close out our evening with a breathwork performance by Brandon Powell, who is a Wim Hof instructor Unlike any Wim Hof instructor you have ever encountered or experienced Correct, it seems silly to call him that and so he's puts his own original music to breathwork. He's going to be on stage like a rock star and everybody's going to be in the crowd breathe in with us, which will get you just, I mean to close out the day is going to be an epic experience. And then, of course, because it's us, we're going to have a dance party to finish it out. We've got our podcast producer, shlomo, who also does DJing and nightclub stuff. He's going to be there, which is rad, and we're going to have so much fun with that.

Speaker 1:

And then on Sunday we're going to bring it back to the tightening up the loose ends from the day before. So you're going to get the opportunity to ask questions of Mark. You're going to get the opportunity to interact with me, some of the other speakers and feature people to get. How do I take this home? What am I doing with this? How am I going to integrate this in my coaching business? What are the next steps? And if there's one thing that we do incredibly well, it's setting people up to take that action and take their next steps. So this is you're going to walk out of the weekend feeling I mean, enlisted is the word that comes to mind You're going to be action prone. You're going to be hyped. You're going to feel really good. You're going to have a bunch of new connections and people that you're going to want to stay connected with on the internet or maybe they live near you. Whatever it is, you're going to walk out of there with new relationships and and know what to do for your next step to take your coaching business out into the world or to take this method into your life. If you're not a coach and you still want to come and get all the benefits of this like, you're more than welcome to join us.

Speaker 1:

This is something that could be a springboard into something else, could be just the opportunity to be around people who are serious and sincere, as Mark said, like there's serious, not to be confused with boring. They just you know we take ourselves seriously and we're going to give you a great time, because this will be the exact opposite of boring, and the evolution of this event from our other events has been fun. We have an event coordinator, rob, who is an enlisted, certified coach, has a background in event planning, so we've really we've leveled up our game. This has stretched us in new and different ways. It's, it's putting you know, for me, this is the the largest professional event that I've hosted. I've done retreats and I've done one day workshops and things, but this is a whole new arena for me in that, in that sense.

Speaker 1:

And so we we did this because our students were asking for it. We did this because our community was asking for it. We did this because we wanted to do it. That is the intention of serving our people, providing more value, having a lot of fun and for us to really have our hearts in. It is, uh, is something that you will feel being there, and I'm sure you can feel through this conversation, because it's. It's something that it lights us up too. You know it's. It's a lot of work on our part. We've been working on this for months and months. It's going to be a lot of work to do to pull it off and I'm going to walk out with a full battery after the crash. That happens after you've been, you know, orchestrating people, but there I will come out of that with a full battery and grateful for the whole thing.

Speaker 2:

So Mark, what are you most looking forward to, uh, during that 3D event?

Speaker 3:

Watching you and Meglett and Ryan Sprague and Joel Cochran and Jen Brockstrom and get up there and and deliver your talks. That's one thing I'm very much looking forward to. It's this first time I've ever coached a speaking team. Very cool, meeting people that have been in. You're one of we've never met in person, right, meeting people that have been in the community or on the periphery of the community for a while. Meeting them in person. The weather in Richmond in October it's perfect. You don't come visit but you can't move here. It's just too nice. You're going to want to. It's awesome. It's awesome. I'm from Richmond. That's a really, really special venue and the Bird Theatre is a national treasure, I think. I think is what is it? What is it Can be?

Speaker 1:

the oldest, oldest continuously operating movie theater in the country.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right, there's that. It looks like an opera house. It looks like an opera house we're going to get. I love performing presenting with Brandon. You know he and I go back to middle school. We're in a class for special needs kids together in middle school. We both have a condition. Kimmy likes to want to say that, because it's true.

Speaker 1:

And it's definitely true about Brandon.

Speaker 3:

It's definitely true about Brandon. So, whatever we get together and there's just, it's just a locking of a mechanism and we've done 15 workshops together, so this will be 16. There's that my niece and my stepmom, who's my second mom. They're going to be there and you know I work online right, so they see me on a computer a lot, yeah, and, trust me, I do not do any coaching with them. I'm way smarter than that. I would do with celebrating the wins session with either one of them. Okay, I would, I would. I would celebrate the wins with friends and family members when it comes to the stuck stuff I got people. This is a way for them to see what the fuck I've been doing with my life for the past 16 years. That's a big deal.

Speaker 1:

Do you think they'll be surprised?

Speaker 3:

No, because all it is is me. It's the same me, just on stage. I mean I'll change it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I wasn't saying about at you. I was going to say do you think they'll be surprised at how the community you've created and built? Do you think they'll be surprised at how everybody there views you and respects you? And do you think there's any element in them that will be like what? Wow?

Speaker 3:

In that case? In that sense, yes, because they don't see me that way. I'm just, I'm fun, uncle Mark, taking out the trash, like going to the arcade watching the UFC.

Speaker 2:

Lighting Forts. Lighting Forts.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, stuff like that Uncle's stuff. So in that sense, and that'll be, it'll be more. Susan has seen me present and she listens to the podcast and she asked specific questions. She's generally interested in what we're doing and how things are going. It'll be much more novel if I'm using that word correctly for no. Well, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So one thing that I recognize as I go and I do workshops most of them are for educators I'll go into a school, I'll do an assembly program, I'll set up a building men program in a school, I'll work with teachers, teaching them strategies to use with their kids and work with parents. And one thing that I recognize as I'm doing that work is human beings. I, when I do what I talk about kids, have these needs, these five basic needs. But, as I, you know, take a 30, 40,000 look view, look at it. We all have these needs as human beings and what you're doing is you're creating an opportunity to meet all these needs for every person who's there. The first is the need for autonomy to feel as though your voice is an integral part of the space. So, as an enlisted coach, I feel as though you know, you care about how I feel about things, you care about my opinion, you actively seek that out. So it's like that's one of the great things about establishing that community is you feel like you're, you're a part of it. Your opinion matters. The second is competence. We talked about that already. So, as people are there, they're going to be gaining knowledge and skills and, you know, rolling up their sleeves and going through it, but they're going to come out. Kimberly, you said your battery is going to be charged. It's going to be a, I'm sure, an exhausting couple of days, but you're going to come out like I feel more prepared and whatever I'm doing after this based on this experience. The next one is this is bound to happen when this group together and that's the need for fun it's going to be a, it's going to be a good time. So you know those autonomy competence fund. The next is relationship. That's basically the enlisted method, is establishing opportunities for people to connect with one another. So that need will be met and it's going to be done.

Speaker 2:

And the final need is the need for safety. It's done in a space where you feel like you know I'm not worried about making a mistake. I've done a lot of research and talked a lot recently about the idea of like let's reframe the thoughts about failure in our mind. Like let's look at failure as you did something, learn some a way not to do it in the future. So what can I do to learn from that? And so you're doing that in a safe space and people have an opportunity to learn from some really great people in the industry and practice things as well. So you'll come out of it with you know, this whole you know toolbox of tricks that you can use and and experiences that you've had, and so you're meeting all of these of these needs that people have in one three day events. You're packaging it up and you're giving it to us.

Speaker 2:

So if I'm on the fence here, I'm like maybe, I don't know, using some soft talk, possibly, probably I might what's going to be the thing? Why do I need to be there? What do I need to know? That's going to like, you know, put me over the line. I'm gonna. I'm now, I'm gonna sign up for this event. What is it? I'll start with you, kimberly. You, what is the thing? What is the thing that you're like? This is why you need to be here.

Speaker 1:

You have to get in the arena, and the reality is is that many coaches and people opt for the safety of their comfort zone rather than looking for an opportunity to get out of it. I know I made this choice early on in my coaching career, many times that a seminar or workshop seemed expensive or it seemed like, oh wow, that's a big ask to get out of my, out of my world, to go do this, and every single time that I did, the investment returned to me 10 fold, because putting yourself in the arena with people who are doing what you want to be doing is the only way to get better and is the only way to actually develop your skills. You can't watch from the sidelines and become an NFL player. You have to go out on the practice field and you have to get into the. You have to start working at it.

Speaker 1:

I love listening to podcasts. I love following people on the internet that are interesting and fun. I only learn from them when I show up right, when I make the decision to go to the event or to enroll in their course or, to you know, get into the same space as them in whatever way I can, and that is is powerful when you do it online, and it is even more powerful when you do it in person, the in person connection that you're going to build on top of the professional development that you're going to have and the new identity you're going to step into after this weekend. You have to get in the arena to do it and you got to compete to win, so let's go.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to echo that and, kimberly, while I'm doing that, will you pull up the list of people that have purchased tickets so we can give them a first?

Speaker 1:

and last name. Shout out on this for real.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so negation and knowledge. You don't need to go to many kick ass workshops to come out with a different perspective. Lens peer group. Kimberly is absolutely right and you know really what is expensive. What is expensive? Well, first and foremost, 500 bucks for this event is. That is very affordable, that is cheap, okay. So let's use the right words there and then you know what. You know. It's really expensive. Everybody Shit talking yourself through life. That's the real expensive stuff. You know, bumping up, bumping up into the thing that's in the way of you getting in your own way, that's expensive. That's the real exologist. You know I'm just going to get my own way for a few decades. You know how much that's costing you across the board, from finances to your emotional gas tank to your relationships. Kimberly, how attractive is it when a man keeps getting in their own way and can't figure it out and then starts blaming other people and like does that really?

Speaker 1:

get you going? Definitely not. How about your?

Speaker 3:

friends, your friends are like wow, I met this great guy and he talks trash about everybody and everybody's got it so much easier than him. And yeah, he just he's just soft talks all over the place and I think I met the one. No one says that. Nobody says that that dude doesn't, she doesn't want to be with him and he doesn't want to be with him. That's the punchline. So not only okay, so that's going to happen. You'll come out and you'll be like man, these people are doing stuff that they like doing, it's true, and they're normal, but better. And this is interesting.

Speaker 3:

And listen, if you're a coach and you're already coaching, you need to be there, because I'm assuming that most coaches that want to grow their business and their brand have at least floored with the idea of going, of getting on stage. Okay, you need to, you need to be able to do that, and that is one of the things that we bring to the table in spades, which is presentation skills, how to run workshops and and create Experiences for people. It's in the name. This is an experience. This is not a room in the Marriott With with with a fucking bear claw and some Earl gray tea and a slide show we're not. We're not doing that because that's horrible. That's horrible. Okay, go to land mark if you want to do that so Kimberly said it come and hang out with people that are doing the thing that is. That it is you want to do, generally speaking, and I can go for it. Learn you got a listen everybody.

Speaker 3:

You didn't have any classes in high school about how to go for it. You didn't, you didn't, I didn't. I didn't learn how to teach classes on how to go for it when I got my degree in education, dennis, how many classes were on offer about how, how to to get yourself out of your own way and go for it when you were a Principal? How many, how many times did you see that on the you?

Speaker 2:

know I've learned more about education in the in-lifted Family than I did in all my years of education.

Speaker 1:

Education yeah, I want to make a key point your version which is that, like we've already highlighted, you know, like Dennis, you echoed how, like our first conversation, you're like how am I ever gonna do this? And I reflected to you have all this experience right? My experience learning the in-lifted method is very similar. Marks at all those kind things about me, thank you. I am a person who is a. I go for things and I was in my own way that much too.

Speaker 1:

And Until you learn how to overcome that shit talking voice, and until you learn that, oh, I'm not the only one who hears that and oh wow, actually Everybody else's shit talking voice seems to say a lot of the same things, just a little bit of a different flavor. I know there's a way to overcome that and oh, there's a way for me to To work through this. And, oh shit, my clients all have it too, and that's the thing that's really keeping them stuck, when you realize that it's not about somebody else being more skilled than you or being more daring than you or being more Confident than you. It's that person has been more willing to Work for it and more willing to overcome and to put themselves in the room where they are uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's why I said you have to leave the safety of your comfort zone to get out and to go and to do these sorts of things. You're gonna be Reflected by all of the other people that are there with you that you are more similar to them than you are different. And so If you are a coach who's just getting started, you're more similar to the, the guy who's been in the game for 15 years, than you are different, like that. You, he's just got more reps Right, or she's got more reps, or she said yes more times. And I'm not special, I'm not unique. I have put myself in the position to go do the thing, as have you, as has mark, as has many of the unlifted coaches, and the reason you show up, give me you show up, show up.

Speaker 1:

And because I know how to talk myself into showing up, because just showing up isn't enough. Right, you have to do, you have to actually get yourself to show up. I was having this conversation last night, yoga class. Here's the thing, right, like I have a background in the fitness industry, I've done a lot of fitness nutrition coaching and I was having a conversation with the instructor about how she had taken Her class the week before she invited me back. She's like hey, I would love to have you in in my power class and I said, yeah, that sounds great. And as a former fitness instructor, I would say that's people. And I'd never seen him again. So I made a point to go see her again because I wanted to let her know that that invitation was important and it got me back and I told her that when I got there, she was like, oh, he came back. I was like, yeah, you invited me. And I said yes.

Speaker 1:

And we started this conversation about how the most difficult thing is to get yourself to say yes to show up. And I could have easily just been like, oh, she invited me. Whatever she doesn't, I don't really care if I go back or not. I was like no, she invited me. I'm gonna say yes, I liked her class, this is gonna challenge me and and, cool, I can do this again.

Speaker 1:

But the point is is that you have to talk yourself into getting in the car to drive over to the studio. Okay, you have to talk yourself into pulling up the website and putting your credit card information to buy the ticket. You got to talk yourself into getting on the plane to show up and get over there, because if you don't do that, you're not going to show up. So how do you learn how to have that Conversation with you about being honest, about what you really want and then know how to Use your language to say yes, and you might not know much about that yet, but if you trust us on this conversation right now and you take that action and you do show up, we'll take care of the rest when you get there most people absolutely in not showing up and it's the confidence comes not from the inspiration, the confidence comes from the movement, from the action correct.

Speaker 2:

And then, once the action happens, momentum provides the inspiration. And, as a person has gone through and lifted levels one and two, I will tell you I don't even know, like trying to do the math in my head what I spent to get the certifications. It's been 50 times that I've made back maybe 70, 75 times. I've made back my initial investment and then lifted from coaching clients, from opportunities that have come from connections that I've made. So if 500 bucks is a lot like, it's what, it's worth it, it is well worth it. And then once you go through the experience if you don't have any experience within, lifted what's? Whoever sign up for level one and it will change your life 100%. I didn't, you know you wouldn't coax me to say any of that from the bottom of my heart has been one of the best decisions I've made in my entire life, was the connection that we made and I truly appreciate and then so grateful for the belief that you have in me, putting me up on stage and give me that opportunity as well.

Speaker 3:

I want to. I want to touch on that too everybody. So the energy of this thing is very real. So we reached out to, we went five for five in an hour. We created a list of people that we were going to ask to speak and there were the first five people. Everybody said yes, they got back to us in under an hour. That's called pulling triggers, that's called showing up. That's called going yes, please. Yeah, I'm there and you trust me, you want more people in your life like that and sometimes you need to pay to be around them. Okay, because they're not floating around. They're not floating around. You're not gonna bump into many people like that at the supermarket or like you know, social media is weird. Yeah, you can fake all kinds of shit. No, you need to be around those people in real life and this is a professional setting. You're gonna come out of this with some of the sparkle percent.

Speaker 2:

So, as you were talking about showing up, kimberly, you know you have to be in the arena. I'm in front of me, I have a board of just great stuff, quotes, things that inspire me, as I'm podcasting, as I'm doing live coaching, and so, as you were talking, I pulled something off this board and I'm gonna read it out. This is Teddy Roosevelt. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, who, at best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly. So that is. Place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat, speak so clearly to the importance of showing up. So if you were on the fence, jump and the net will appear, drive and the map will appear. Take the risk, show up, be in the arena. Mark Kimberly, this has been an absolute honor. I wanted to open up to you guys. Any final words, any thoughts, anything for building men at all, I'll mark. I'll start with you.

Speaker 3:

For all the building men, listeners, audience members, dude, come hang out with your dude fellas. Come hang out with Dennis. Come hang out with Dennis in Richmond in October, with a bunch of other cool people too, and walk away with some of his magic. You know, because that's what happens when you you. You give you share your talents. Okay, and he's absolutely gonna do that.

Speaker 3:

Everybody is listening on the get-in-lifted podcast. You've been listening for probably. Okay, let me back up. If you're listening to this on the get-in-lifted podcast, you're invited to the degree that you do, which is way more than the average person. You understand how powerful your words are. Okay, come get a big fat dose of rad and abracadabra and hang out with us. You know, this isn't rocket science. Listen, dinner and drinks on Friday and Saturday night it's the same thing. Okay, you know, people will blow 500 bucks on some real dumb shit. This is so. This. This is the smart stuff. This is, this is. This is the no-brainer stuff. Kimberly, you got a list of people. Let's say Thank you. Jason Weisner, holly Brenner, james Moore, bill Robbins, robinson, wild Bill the jeweler Wild Bill the jeweler beefworm that's his girl. That's Beth. Chelsea Hawkins. Plus one is that her husband, pierce? It's, it's a good.

Speaker 3:

That's. That's Val Poutine. Queen Davis at Berry Tess test sob, I was hanging out with her in West Virginia last last month. She's cool. Kyle Stubbs, jeremy Zavik, rob Peng, galley, bill Matthews, gail Matthews, zach Barney, casey Pepper what a cool name. Matt Meyer, jeremy Gruesteiner this is getting me hyped even more. I've been.

Speaker 1:

I know this is actually the first time Mark seen the whole list. I was thinking about this.

Speaker 3:

Sean Rivers, who's his plus one.

Speaker 1:

That's a great question. It might be I, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Actually I'll have to ask Sean Rivers, plus one. We're looking forward to hanging out with you. Melissa Curtis, chad Curtis, will Gamby, claire Gamby, ryan Walla, laurie Walla. Todd Squires, ken Dominique, ashley, todd Ulrich, fucking Ulrich, mike, I would have thrown the event.

Speaker 1:

Just hang out with him, michael.

Speaker 3:

Cerami, michael Saylor, andy Hickman, dude Spellings coming through, that guy had that one introduction to Casey Kepler, carrie Kepler and then, and then dude, thank you so much, abby Matic, did I say that right? Yeah, may thick Matic, abby Matic, lawrence Cady, kailin Couch, jack Thomas, ryan Witherspoon, ryan Witherspoon, plus one that's gotta be Robster the Lobster. Onimoma, did I say that right? Yeah Well, Rianne Reed, Sunshine, aka Sunshine McCloud. Oh, you know who we gotta add to this list? Scarlett Stanhope, the biz hippie, and then, then all the.

Speaker 1:

All of the other. There's a whole other list of people that'll be there, rob.

Speaker 3:

Rob Eshbach, you savage. Kimberly Kesting, you savage, that's her. Ryan Sprague, Megan Henry the savage, meglet. Dennis Jen, joel Cochran, rachel Veratimos big will coming through. He's about to get his black belt in Jiu Jitsu. Jenny Patton, eric Patton, mike Gonzalez is presenting.

Speaker 1:

Plus, his team is coming too, which is gonna be rad. I just spoke with Yasmin this morning.

Speaker 3:

Fuck, right, the fuck on. Jen Gettimer, kyle Gray, cody Ringle, amanda, sergeant, crespo, taylor, captain Morgan, dave Robinson, chase Tolleson's flying in for an airstrike. Are y'all kidding me? These are the these. Like y'all ever heard of A-list? Y'all gotta come, you gotta come.

Speaker 1:

Plus Adam Chin. Vanda Mark England, adam Chin.

Speaker 3:

Vanda, susan England, noel, england. Stop fucking around and get your ticket and come hang out. Okay, come be a part of this thing. Be a part of something I'm gonna be. Yeah, I'm gonna be a part of the news. Great idea, don't do that. Come hang out with us. We're better. We're better than CNN. We're better than Fox. We're better than fucking TikTok, fuck TikTok. Come on, come to Richmond.

Speaker 2:

Tune down, mark. Mark is tuned up here. I love it. I love that you share the list there, kimberly, so you also have Julie, julie will be there. She reached out to you, mark. I think she'll be. I don't know you're gonna be wearing matching pink pants and some black and pink Jordans, to you know, up on stage. So definitely rocking, some building men doing what we're there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, megan's boyfriend.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Jack.

Speaker 3:

Jack.

Speaker 1:

I think he's on that. Jacky boy, I think he's coming.

Speaker 3:

He's British. I mean, come on people.

Speaker 1:

Here's the thing that I'll say from a perspective of, like you know why it's important that you show up and why it's important to bring this group of people together. When Mark was inviting the building men listeners to come meet Dennis, that's why I love the way that this community works, which is that every single person that we have invited to put on stage or to host a workshop or an honestly to come are people that have their own sphere of influence, like you mentioned, that rip, that pebble into the water that creates and ripples out. And there is nothing that makes me more excited when I hear from I don't actually want to hear from an in lifted coach what in lifted has done for them. I know what it did for you. I see it all over you. Like that's amazing, that's. I love that.

Speaker 1:

What I want to hear is what has it done for your clients? What I want to hear is what has it done for your spouse? What I want to hear is how has this been integrated into your family? What I want to hear is how has it been implemented in your community? Because that stuff is what. That's what we're doing here. We're not just ending with the person who decides to take in lifted. We are starting with them and it's a domino out to as many other people as they can reach. And so when I, when we came together and we said, hey, who do we want to invite and who do we want to feature, the first thing I thought of is like, well, who am I seeing out in in our community that are making big impacts and are that are influencing a lot of other people? Because I want to put them on a stage where their people can come and see them shine right. So, inviting the listeners of building men, inviting the listeners of getting lifted, that's awesome.

Speaker 1:

I love, I love it.

Speaker 1:

I want people to recognize how far the ripples go and how you, showing up to an event like this, makes you part of that ripple and makes you like bring it back to your community, to your family, to your clients, to your people.

Speaker 1:

And the world is a really tough place right now for many people. And if you can be a little bit lighter and a little bit brighter and to provide some tools to have people have a smile on their face and have them breathe a little better and see themselves in a more positive light, and that sounds appealing to you. Come supercharge it with everybody that we just listed off and the other people that are gonna can buy tickets. It's going to transfer to you, you're gonna take it back and it's what better gift you know To be around people who can charge your battery and who can fill you up. And I know, in my experience of coaching online or just even coaching in person and being one of the only people on the team or in my space that is the one carrying the torch and being that positive influence. It's a lot easier to be that consistently when you have 65 people behind you who are doing the same thing.

Speaker 2:

This was amazing. Let's do a follow up. We'll do a post, post and lift at event podcast. Just a quickie just to say hey, this was tremendous. Let's look forward to the next one, which I'm sure will be a thing. And again, honor to be up on stage. I will be at every one moving forward as well. Be in the audience and I'll be cheering on the next person who's up on stage.

Speaker 2:

I also wanted to recognize Mark for coaching me through the speech. So it's a TEDx style talk. We got onto a call two weeks ago. Our next call is in a couple of days, just workshopping through it as so to have a world-class coach helping me navigate the seven hours of stuff. I have in my mind to try to get it down to a 15 minute speech and a quick teaser. I'll be talking about the three thieves that are getting in our way of success. Three thieves that are getting in our way of success. You wanna know more about that and what you could do to overcome those three thieves. Sign up for the event. Mark England, kimberly Kessing it was an honor, as always. So you guys at the event building my audience go one step further than you thought you could go. We'll see you next time on Building Men.

Speaker 1:

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Podcast Origins and Team Dynamics
The Lake House
Enlisted Event Overview and Purpose
Attending Workshops for Personal Growth
The Power of Showing Up
Building Men
TEDx-style Speech Coaching and Mindset Coaching