Date with Cents
Date with Cents
How Danelle Went From Being Guarded After a Divorce to Dating Her Dream Men in Under 6 Months
When Danelle started working with me just months after her divorce, she was guarded and would shut men out. She desperately wanted love but was too scared to show her real personality.
In this episode, you'll hear how she went from being afraid to open up to having amazing dates and deep connections. You'll discover how she learned to set boundaries without pushing men away and why fixing her dating life also improved her business and relationship with her son.
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What's up, lover girls, welcome back to the Date With Sense podcast. If you are listening to this episode, I am currently in London somewhere frolicking, exploring, enjoying myself, trying new things. Basically, this is one of the ways that I'm celebrating my birthday. Even though I didn't get to celebrate in Puerto Rico, I still have London, so so happy about that. But as of now, like what I'm really doing, I'm recording ahead of time, I'm not packed, I have to leave in the morning it is now 9pm at night and I have to leave at like 5am in the morning to get out and I'm like okay, I have to put out a podcast episode.
Speaker 1:So get it together, tora, but for those of y'all who are my OGs, you know that I had a very popular group coaching program called Curve to Cuff and I shut it down a couple of years ago. I shut it down maybe a year and a half ago almost two years now, it should be. Yeah, I shut it down, and what I mean is I stopped taking new people. Whoever was in Curved to Cuff, whoever was in the last enrollment of Curved to Cuff, I kept them in the program and I didn't let anybody else in and I just said you know I'm just going to make this the best program in the entire world. I'm not going to open it back up and I just focused on one-to-one coaching, becoming a more like I guess, a super expert, like I just wanted to be so laser focused when it comes to one-to-one coaching and really get down to the nitty gritty of people's problems and and really helping them solve their problems in a really, really big way so that I can help more people at scale. And I'm saying that because, y'all, I am booked out my wait list. I have a paid wait list that's booked out to um to October. I can't, I can't take any more people. I'm actually done taking one-to-one clients at this point in time.
Speaker 1:Now, and, that being said, I am reopening C2C very soon to the public and I'm very excited about that. You can actually join the wait list right now if you're interested in joining this program, especially if you've been following me for a while and you're like oh man, like I've known about C2C, I've been wanting to join C2C but I haven't had a chance because she closed it down. Well, girls, you're lucky, you're lucky season. It will be open to the public before cuffing season begins, so you can be ready, hon. But I'm bringing that up because this is a special interview that I'm having, because it's the first interview that I have on my podcast from someone in my Curve to Cuff group program. I've only been interviewing one-to-one clients. Now I'm interviewing people from my group so they can tell you their experiences and show you like what it looks like to get results in a group format.
Speaker 1:And so this particular client, very special, near and dear to my heart, got out of divorce Soon. As she got out of a divorce and it was finalized, she was like I'm trying to work with Tora, and so she joined. She was the last cohort that I enrolled before we shut it down and her growth has been tremendous. I am so impressed with her and her work and how committed she is to her love life and dating deliciously, and so I'm sure that this interview will be enlightening, it will be impactful and there's a lot that you can take from this, whether you decide to work with me or not in any kind of capacity. Yeah, this is an interview you definitely want to listen to. So listen to the interview, get on the waitlist, girl, and without further ado, here's the episode. I'm so excited. Ado, here's the episode. I'm so excited I'm sitting across from the amazing Danelle. She's in the building. Shout out to you, danelle. Introduce yourself to the people. Why don't you?
Speaker 2:I would love to. I am so happy to be in the building. My name is Danelle Brister. I am an accomplished professional working in tech. I also have my own business where I help high achieving women get to their next career phase in life. I don't use single mom, but I'm a co-parenting mom to a five-year-old little boy. I've been divorced about two years and just out here living the best life that I can.
Speaker 1:And so this is actually a really special interview that we're going to have today. What makes it so special is because you are actually not a private client. Because you are actually not a private client, you are a member of my Curve to Cuff community group private mentorship program, and when I say private, it's been like super private recently because I shut it down to the public and I've kept it under wraps and have just coached ladies in the program without publicly promoting it, without publicly allowing people in, and now that I'm about to open the doors, I'm like they need to hear the stories. And so this came at a perfect time of us having it, because it's time to reopen the doors to C2C very, very soon. So let's start with three words. Three words to describe your love life.
Speaker 2:I would say my love life is expansive, intentional and magnetic.
Speaker 1:Tell me more about expansive. What makes it expansive?
Speaker 2:I so I would say expansive, um, because of how much I have been growing in the connections that I build with the men in my life. Um, there was a big turning point actually toward when I did. I did a one-on-one intensive with you and you said something important that was along the lines of think of this as a time to build the dating skills, because I felt like I was just messing up, like I would snap on these guys. I was close and you're like no, you're learning, because when you get to the big leads you don't want to fumble the ball like you want to be ready for the Super Bowl. And so when I started thinking of dating and forming connections is really an opportunity to build skills, that took the pressure off for me.
Speaker 2:But I have just seen myself like bloom and grow, like bloom and grow and I specifically didn't use the word growth because it's not just up, it is out. I'm truly expanding, I'm truly taking up more space and I'm just going to say it has been a beautiful thing for me to step outside of of myself and just watch that like. Go back and read my journal, read my dating cards, like it is just. I just feel so proud of myself and so good about all of the things that I'm experiencing and all of the fear that I have let go and the self-trust that I have now and the safety that I feel. Like those are very expensive, what's the word Like? They're expensive things. That's not just. I'm achieving more, which is the type of growth I'm used to.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, you said so much in such a little time. I want to talk about, like you mentioned, that you were closed, because a lot of women don't know what that means and they don't know the consequences of that if they're not aware of it. So, yeah, talk about what, what, what do you mean by closed for the? For the latest listening.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So when I say close, I was not. I was not willing to take any type of risk when it came to dating, like I wanted to be in control, I wanted to guarantee that there would be no rejection. But I would. I would completely zip up and it's very interesting because I had a very deep desire to be seen but nobody could see me. That's just wild when I think about it right now. The men couldn't get to know who I was. I have these quirky things about my personality. I would actually shrink specific things about my personality, like my love of aesthetic and luxury things and nice things, because I thought they were too much so in any space where I wasn't completely being authentic or myself, I considered that being closed and I wouldn't be the first person to like want to reach out. I wouldn't want to give. I just wouldn't express how I was really feeling. But I think the interesting thing is I was closed on the outside but I was also close to myself.
Speaker 1:Like I wasn't experiencing the feelings in fullness because I wasn't taking the time to really honor and evaluate how I was receiving others and how they would really make me feel I remember now that you say that on a coaching call, and you came to the coaching call and you said well, tora, I'm reserved until I get to know somebody, like I kind of hold back, and until I get to know somebody, and I was like no, that's actually a performance, it's actually our way of trying to to self-protect, because, in order for us to actually connect with another human being, their reservedness is simply I'm not going to show you the real me until you show me the real you. And it doesn't work that way. How did that land with you?
Speaker 2:And then what did you do instead? So I'm going to be honest. You know, I really I heard you Um, and a lot of times when you give me coaching, tora, I have to, I have to step. I have to just say, okay, she said these things while we were on the call, but I'm not ready, like I have to go back and listen to it again and then figure out how I'm going to integrate it into my life. So when you were like no, you need to show up first, like I was, like I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:I hear you, but no, that's not, that doesn't feel safe. But eventually I realized that I could take baby steps, like I don't have to jump off the cliff every single time. And so I just started to take baby steps towards showing little parts of myself and then observing what the reaction is. And every time I had a positive reaction. It was a signal to my body like, oh, this is okay, let's go a little bit more. It's kind of like starting in the shallow end and walking out a little bit more and letting the water like rise up a little bit. So that was my experience into how I was able to like build up that safety so that I didn't have to enter anything reserved, and it was truly around. It's truly around like self-acceptance, like once I'm okay with myself, like who cares what they, what anyone else thinks about me. So I love the baby steps.
Speaker 1:I love the baby steps, and it's very important, especially because this is a very common conundrum for women who come to me, especially ones who are like well, tora, I don't have a problem attracting the men that I want. I have a problem with it leading to something. I have a problem with going past the first or second date. I have a problem of things like fizzling out, and it's linked to their ability to be open. And so for you, can you give like an example or two of what it looks like to start off with how you started off with baby steps, so that you can be like open to men in that way?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, where I found it easiest for me, based on my personality, I really like to create experiences, and so part of the program is we create our delicious dating life, and so I would create these experiences and just share them with the men, like I think this would be a really great experience and this is how it would make me feel and that felt really safe, because it was something I already enjoyed doing. And I was talking about how the experience made me feel versus, like you, the man is making me feel this way, or this is how I feel about the man, which felt a little, a little far out of reach at the moment, but connecting it to something that was already innate in me and my own personality is really what helped me kind of put myself out there.
Speaker 1:Can you think about a particular time when you did that and like what the response was like?
Speaker 2:I remember wanting a pool date with this gentleman and some of the things that I would do is like I would also do like a choose your own adventure. I would create a choose your own adventure. I would create a choose your own adventure type of thing, and so I might give two or three options and just describe them in full, like feeling words, like I would paint a picture so you could like visualize what this is, what this opportunity is going to be like with me, or what this date will be like. And I wanted to create this pool date and I started from like what we would drink, what we would eat, what it was going to be like on the pool day. We were going to be, you know, rubbing each other down with sunblock and just enjoying each other's company. And I mean, he was all for it, he was excited to do it. I had ordered all the food, had all the drinks prepared when we got there. So that was an amazing experience that I created.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so good, Danelle. And so when it comes to like you, like feeling more confident, opening up, like what did that do for or how did that impact your confidence? To continue to open up and express yourself and show yourself to men.
Speaker 2:So, first of all, by me just going out into the world and being open, even without me having to say things, I started to attract more people men and women, business work like it just all starts coming and you're like whoa, hold on. So I think that was the first thing. Is you automatically become more attractive and more magnetic? And one of the things that I would always complain about is like men just want me for my looks or they just want to have sex with me. But when they were able to see other parts of me and get to know me, that wasn't my story anymore. I mean, it's part of the story, right, but that wasn't the whole story anymore.
Speaker 2:So I was able to change my lens from how I view things to see. The little rewards around. Showing myself was like, oh, he likes this part of my personality. It's not just about trying to get me in bed, it is, he actually likes who I am when I show up as I am. So it was almost like building a little reward system and just saying, oh okay, I got a reward for doing that. Let me do it again. Let's see what happens if I make it a little bit bigger next time. Let me just observe. So it's kind of like little experiments, but make it fun, Make it sexy.
Speaker 1:I love that so much because that is also a common thing, where women are like men just want to have sex with me.
Speaker 1:I don't know what to do. These men don't care about me, they just want to, you know, to push up on my body, and I always let them know that a huge reason why men gravitate towards sex when it comes to you is because that's all they have access to. That's the only type of intimacy that they can see with you. Because you're not allowing emotional intimacy to be a part of the equation, you're not allowing yourself to open up, you have your wall up, you have fear, you have your guarded, you don't want someone to see the real you, and so leaving out that authenticity causes men to want to only focus on sex, because that is the only intimacy they have access to. But once you start opening up and creating other types of intimacy, sex is not even the thing on their mind. Of course, like they want sex, but it's not the thing that they're gravitating to when it comes to that. So I love the fact that you shared that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is. I mean even the pool date I described. We dated each other for months, a few months, and we never had sex. We just enjoyed each other's company and we created great experiences together.
Speaker 1:And you had a great time. Tell the people you don't have to have sex with these men. You can date them for months and you don't have to have sex with them.
Speaker 2:You do not have to have sex with the men if you do not want to, if you feel not ready for that. I think that was also a big barrier, like how am I going to date all these men and I don't want to have sex with multiple men? I didn't. I never had sex with multiple men because I didn't want to. It was my choice. Exactly, it's the skills and we talked about the dating skills.
Speaker 1:It's the skills, and we talked about the dating skills. You mentioned expansiveness and your focus on expansiveness. You mentioned how I told you about focusing on dating skills, which is very important because typically, when we start working on our love lives as women, we have like this ultimate goal, kind of like how we see our careers, kind of like how we see our education. Everything that I'm doing is so that I can get this degree, it's so that I can get this job, it's so that I can land this or do this.
Speaker 1:But you're not realizing along the way that there are skills that you're developing. You're developing studying skills. You're developing networking skills. You're developing interviewing skills, you're developing comprehension skills. You're developing all these kind of skills to achieve those things. You think you just got to the goal, but the whole time you stuck to building particular skills. The same thing when it happens to dating. But the problem is when we don't get what we want or see certain results in a certain period of time, we think it's not working versus I need to build the skills. So for you, other other than the skills of, like, authenticity because that was a big skill that you had to build what were, I guess one or two other skills that you feel like have been dramatically impactful when it comes to your love life.
Speaker 2:Being able to communicate my boundaries effectively. I feel in the past I have either had extremely rigid boundaries where it's like you just come up against the brick wall and I'm like peace, I'm out, or extremely porous boundaries based in fear that I'm like being too much and I don't want to be too much or run him away, or I would be like anxiously attached. So really understanding when it's time to enforce a boundary. Or sometimes it's as simple as establishing a boundary. It's like, oh, I didn't realize that was going to make me frustrated, it's time to put something in place that will alleviate that for me. So understanding when it's time to establish a boundary, but also being able to communicate it in an effective way, I think is a very important skill that I learned.
Speaker 2:The other skill I don't know if you consider this a skill, but taking the time to just slow down, sitting in a little bit of discomfort and understanding that you're still safe. Just because you're uncomfortable doesn't mean it's not safe here. So being able to slow down and regulate enough to say you good girl, it's okay, and then I'm not like crashing out on the men because I've slowed down enough to be able to say, ok, this is something you need to take time to process and then come back and communicate it effectively versus crashing out arguing back and forth. Of the men I've dated, I have not been in like an extreme argument with anybody and I have, in my opinion, established some really important boundaries for myself.
Speaker 1:So no, that is a skill, that's a huge skill that most people don't have, and especially us women, when we're not taught emotional regulation. I actually remember, I recall, do you remember the post you made in the community? When you post it, you did a, a dating debrief where you did your grow, your grows, your glows, um, they have like an um for anyone listening in the c2c community. They have a dating debrief where they, after they go on dates, they come back and they list out you know how did they grow from the date, what were the glows from the date like? What like made them feel amazing, what were their gripes, what they didn't like about the date?
Speaker 1:Um, and what was the other one dang off the tip of my tongue grows, glows, gripes, gratitude and gratitude like, even if it wasn't a good fit, like, what were you thankful for? So that we can anchor on that. And there was one time you posted in the community about a gripe that you had with a guy. I think you were like frustrated or annoyed with something that he said, but he didn't, but you didn't speak up. Do you remember that? Would you like to share more about that and how your skill helped you there?
Speaker 2:in the future. I don't remember the exact situation, but I do recall you saying oh, this is an indication.
Speaker 1:You need to establish a boundary. I think he was asking questions about certain things, I don't know like he was pointed to certain stuff. He was maybe asking a question or having conversation that you did not want to have and it was annoying you like, like is this man like? This man is annoying me. And I was like did you let him know?
Speaker 2:And that may be it, like maybe he was asking me questions about my divorce or something.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't remember the exact situation, but I do recall that specific piece of coaching did help me see, did help me connect whatever I'm feeling in my body to mean, oh, it's time for a boundary. And you know, as silly as this may sound like, I think of boundaries as like you have them, you have your set of boundaries and then that's it, like it never even occurred to me that, as I'm learning or as I experience different things in life, it doesn't even have to be about learning as I am exposed to more as I experience different things in life. It doesn't even have to be about learning as I am exposed to more as I experience different things that we're constantly creating boundaries, we're constantly establishing boundaries and communicating them to people, and even beyond that, a boundary that I have for man A may not be a boundary I have for man B, and that is okay. There's nobody that says everybody gets the same access. Everybody gets the same plate of food here.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Boundaries are such a progressive thing, especially like as the woman that you become, who you become in the process. You might have a different boundary a month from now that you did not have today right, and you might change that boundary. But anytime you find yourself annoyed, frustrated, find yourself feeling resentful or regretful, that is a point where there needs to boundary put in place. I do not care if you never had to have it in the past. If you're frustrated today, there needs to be a boundary place. I do not care if you never had to have it in the past. If you're frustrated today, there needs to be a boundary today.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, absolutely, those are really good skills. Thank you, I love that for you and I love that you focused on building them because, again, focusing on the man, focusing on the relationship, like we want that goal, but that should never be the focus. The skill should always be the goal, because once you build the skills, you will always be able to build the love life that you want. Which leads me into your second word Intentional. Intentional what made your love life, what makes it so intentional?
Speaker 2:I um.
Speaker 2:So some of the activities that we do around our vision and our goals has made it so crystal clear to me about what I want to experience, how process of actually visualizing what we want and really taking the time to think about it and write it down, I am automatically magnetizing what it is that I want, and it's so easy for me to say I'm not feeling this, no, thank you.
Speaker 2:I get to turn it down. And so when I say intentional, I mean it is truly what I want to experience. I am not sticking around for the breadcrumbs, I am not sticking around for dates that I don't want to experience, I am not talking about, I'm not having conversations that I don't want to have. It is intentional in service of my own expansiveness, my own joy, my own pleasure, and that my partner or the person that I'm experiencing with, experiencing it with, gets to experience those same things. If we're not having a good time while we're doing this, if we're not experiencing pleasure, if we're not growing together that's one of my core values is like personal growth. If that's not a part of the equation, then what are we doing?
Speaker 1:Nothing at all, which is, uh, you created your vision. You were one of the like. You were always on the goal setting calls, the vision, the, the lover girl vision calls. You were always there to set your vision, set your goals, go through them Like. You were adamant about being on those calls on setting your vision and setting. So it's no, it's not surprising that you've gotten to the point where I'm actually so clear, like I'm I'm making very quick decisions to choose men, to rule them out, to have the kind of experiences that I want. I'm not holding my tongue because you've consistently set the goal and you've consistently met them and you've consistently set your vision and anchored all of your goals to the vision on pretty much all the calls which I commend you on, by the way, which is also a skill build. It's a skill build. I remember one time, with your lover girl vision, you came to the call and you said I already have this. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1:Yes, Do you have your vision on you. You have to read it. You have to read it.
Speaker 2:I can.
Speaker 1:I can pull it up pretty quickly because you have to read it to the people, because when you read it to the group and everyone got chills, and then you were like I actually realized, tora, that the vision I created I don't know how many it was three months ago, that I have it now Like this is what I'm living now. I was like, oh my gosh. I'm like, yeah, you have to read it.
Speaker 2:I found it. It was my vision. So this is almost a year ago. This is the vision, the 90-day love life vision I created from July to October, and it is my love life is filled with sensual and interesting dates with men that inspire me to continue to expand and grow. The dates fuel my creativity and range from adventurous to cozy. These men are not afraid to express themselves and when I am with them, my joy just radiates. We have fun exploring each other's desires and experiencing what lights the other up. No matter the interaction, I come away feeling cherished, adored and that he wants to protect our connection as sacred and precious.
Speaker 1:That was my vision. Oh listen, when you first wrote that out, before you even had it, what was going through your mind when you was writing out this particular vision for yourself?
Speaker 2:Oh, that is a good question. You're asking me to go back a year. Um, let me see. One of the things is, I was very um, I was having a lot of experiences, but I was trying to um, I was trying to curate it in a way that protected my energy, if that makes sense, like if I wanted to. If I was going to date, it was going to be in a way that fueled me so that I could be able to still pour out but also not feel like I'm quote unquote wasting my time. And so I really connected to myself to figure out what is it that I need poured into me in order to show up in the way that I want to show up in the world. And when I say that I mean I don't want to be tired going to work, I want to show up as the best person for my child. Um, so I wanted these dates to fuel me in a way that, like, I became the person I wanted to be, um at the end of the day, does that make sense? I?
Speaker 1:feel like I went in a no, no you did and how possible did you believe it was for you when you did it Like, did you actually believe you could do that in 90 days?
Speaker 2:I did, and that is so. I think around that time I was reading a book by Dr Joe Dispenza called Breaking the Habit of being Yourself, because I've always been a powerful manifester when it comes to my career. But I realized the difference in. That is, I never had an issue with belief when it came to my career because I had so much data that proved like I could do it and I was deserving of these things. And I don't know, it was just something that clicked Like if I could do it for my career, like why can't I do it for my dating life? And so I started being really very intentional and just. I do recall on a call you said be delulue until it becomes true. True, and I was like I would be out here delusional. So I did. I believe that I could get it and I just kept my eye on that. Am I cherished here? No Bye, are you expressing yourself clearly to me? No Bye.
Speaker 2:I think there was a time where I had specifically I talked to you about this. I had specifically asked this gentleman a question about something he had said. I think he had promised what these experiences were going to be like and I just said, hey, I noticed that this is not what's happening. Is this something you still want to explore? And he responded to something else in my voice note, like some artwork I think I had talked about, not related to what I asked, and I said, hey, tori, this man responded to me, but he didn't respond to the whole thing.
Speaker 2:It seems like this is an avoidance situation here, but I really enjoyed this man. He had a lot of the qualities that I admire in men and I knew that I wanted, but he was not providing the experience that I wanted, the experience that I wanted. And you said you don't have to. You said you can keep dating him if you want to. You don't have to, you don't have to quit. And I said no, I am in service of you. Know, let me throw the fish back and catch a bigger fish. And that's what I did and that's exactly what happened, I mean, the next day, like someone with this vision, at the time I didn't realize that that's what was happening, but I had connected with a gentleman that fit this exact vision here.
Speaker 1:I love it. I love it so good. I love how you trusted yourself there, because ultimately, we're only going to attract the kind of men or choose the kind of men as far as we trust ourselves to do so, which is why um and I talked about in my last podcast with amanda I don't tell women to stop dating men because you're you're not going to stop attracting that kind of man until you're done, until you're ready.
Speaker 1:I'll never tell you to stop. I will always give you the avenue to choose whatever you want to do, and in that moment you were like I actually choose me. I'm actually done. I'm done now. I'm not done tomorrow. I'm done today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like no, we don't have to continue this, I know where it leads. Yeah, we don't have to continue this, I know where it leads?
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause I know typically women, women. All my DMs are filled with with women who come and they say they'll send me screenshots. By the way, don't do this, don't. I'm just saying, I'm just telling what women do, from who I was listening. I, I, I don't entertain it, right, because they're they're looking for coaching in a way that I don't provide in my DMs. But it's full of DMs of women saying, well, tara, what does he mean by this? And I said this and he didn't respond here. And what did I do wrong here? And I'm not their coach, so I'm not coaching them through that. But I can see all the areas where they are missing the fact that this man is not invested. They're missing the fact that this man saw what you wrote, he heard what you said. He's just choosing not to respond to it. And now you're spiraling because you think there's a problem when he's just letting you know he's not interested in that.
Speaker 2:He's not interested in your desire.
Speaker 1:He's not interested in your needs, he's not interested in your want. You can't see it, so you want to bring it to me, right? So I'm like that was a very that was during our client intensive.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was.
Speaker 1:That was our two week client intensive, because you wanted a deep dive on what was what did you want to deep dive on your vulnerability?
Speaker 2:It was, yes, it was mainly around. Well, I wanted a rotation. That's really what I wanted. I couldn't figure out why I wasn't getting my rotation, but it was very much I wanted to be. I wanted more depth in the connections that I was having. Like, how do I build these deep relationships and connections with people that can, like, go a little bit beyond surface? So I guess, in that sense, yes, vulnerability is what it boiled down to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's basically what, but I guess that's what didn't. You didn't come for that, but that is what you received in the process and it opens you up in so many different new ways. Speaking of rotation, girl, I know that that was a sticking point for you because you were like oh, I'm meeting men now, I'm enjoying men, I'm enjoying my dates and this is happening, but I don't have my rotation. Like, where's my rotation? And I remember giving you the bad slash good news. I remember on the call I got. We were on the call and you were like, where's my rotation? I'm like Danelle, I'm going to tell you why you don't have one. I want to tell you why you don't have one. And there's one piece of this where you're just like I want to be dating multiple men. But the beauty about all of this is that the reason why you don't have a rotation is you actually quantum leaped over a lot of steps. You quantum leap to the type of man that is a dream man for you very quickly.
Speaker 1:This is not normally the process.
Speaker 1:The process usually is you build a roster that leads to a rotation and it's like a starter rotation. It's a rotation of men that you, you know you've never really dated before and you are actually building your dating skills and you're happy with it, but it's not like the cream of the crop of what you're looking for. Like you, you build your starter rotation You're super excited about, you're attracted to these men, you're excited about these men, but still it's a starter rotation and most people with their first rotation, most people tear it down because once you start building a skill set and once you start becoming and elevating as the woman you are, you don't even want that rotation, no more, you don't want it. So we tear it down and then we build another one and then you're like I don't want that one, no more. Because you become a different person and you tear it down.
Speaker 1:You, you didn't have a starter. You quantum leaped in the kind of men that you like the cream of the crop, like how did that feel, knowing that that was what you were doing, even though you didn't have your first rotation, knowing that that was what you were doing, even though you didn't have your first rotation.
Speaker 2:So initially, you know, I was really judging myself like where, why can't I build a rotation? And I'm looking at other women in the program that they're talking about all these men, and like the great things that are happening, and I'm like where's, where's mine? And I mean I realized now it's because I was getting rid of them, because I realized they were not. They were not the men I wanted ultimately. Um, and I was be. The truth is like I was becoming a different person while dating the guys, but it would just be like three dates and I'm like, oh, okay, I'm over this. Like this is not it.
Speaker 2:And so, because I was moving so quickly, I could have had a rotation of men that I outgrew.
Speaker 2:And so when it comes to the decision between, am I going to keep shooting for what it is I really want or am I going to settle?
Speaker 2:The answer to me was clear I'm not settling for less than what I really want and what I believe I deserve. So when you explained it to me, it took so much pressure off Because in my mind I'm like the goal is the rotation. I'm not meeting my goal, but when you were able to show me that you're not meeting that goal, but you've grown in all these other places, you've met all of these other goals, this is something that's really beautiful, and I shifted towards the goal. The result will be the rotation one day, if it's what I will continue to want, but the goal is really to build the skills so that I can have a rotate, maintain a rotation actually, because it's one thing to get it, but how am I going to keep them if I don't have the dating skills? And so when I shifted towards, let me just build the skills, whether it's with one person or 15 people, my goal is actually to have the skills to go out and build the dating life that I want whenever I'm ready.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. And you, your internal growth was just so quick, it was so fast Like you were implementing internal changes, which doesn't really like I get. I typically get a lot of pushback when it comes to internal change. It's like, ah, I don't want to focus on that, I want to focus on the external. Okay, cool, right, we can do that too. But I think there was a also like a foundation with you in terms of like you were already like reading Dr Joe Dispenza right, I'm a big fan of him. That's internal change. Like you, you were already like you had a foundation of like why internal change was like super, super important here, and I think that helped you out a bit, quite a bit in order to take for you to be able to really focus on internal change and really believe in it Like cause. It takes a while for women to really believe in the internal focus.
Speaker 2:It's like I don't, see the external results.
Speaker 1:I can't think about internal, but I think your extreme focus on the internal skills is what allows you to quantum leap so fast and really land with the men that you are, because what kind of men were you dating before?
Speaker 2:Before C2C yeah Well, I joined C2C like right after I got divorced, so I really wasn't dating before C2C. So, ladies, you don't have to wait a certain amount of time after you get divorced to join C2C. I was divorced in August and I think I had my sales call with you in November and officially started.
Speaker 1:Oh, you wasn't planning.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Did you date before your husband?
Speaker 2:I did. I dated before my husband, but it was kind of the same thing. I would attract the men but I couldn't hold on to them. The closeness yeah, I was closed and I also think that closeness. I was closed and so and I also think that closeness um had a lot to do with the demise of my marriage.
Speaker 2:Um, I met him closed and he I wasn't getting the like emotional. I wasn't getting the emotional side that I deeply desired, but I also like didn't have these skills to like put it out there and then pull it out of him. So, not to mention the skills to be able to, to choose like exactly what it is that I wanted before getting married. Like the cycle of dating and then they go away created like this severe, anxious attachment in me. Like I just wanted to like hold on to whoever I could, which is actually repelling, so go figure. But that you know, that was one of the things that kind of I kind of grew out of that pattern through all of this as well. It's like my ancient attachment pattern. Like I feel very sovereign, very secure these days.
Speaker 1:Sovereign is such a sexy, a sexy description. Yes, speaking of grasping and grabbing, um, there was a period of time when you came to get coaching because there was this guy that you were really into and you were grasping for him. Would you like to tell us a little bit more about that?
Speaker 2:Yes, I met this gentleman on Hinge. He was like a VP, the kind of guy like I just never thought I was going to land which is like silly talk now but it was the kind of guy like never thought I was going to land, um, and we went out and we had an amazing date. It was just so much fun and we had this great conversation, um, but I immediately went into like I have to hold on to him, like he can't go nowhere, like I need him. And you know, we went out like maybe two more times over the weekend and just had a great um, a great time. And then he was traveling and I wasn't really hearing back from him and I recall getting on the call and, um, this is actually like probably over the period of a week I was dealing with this Cause I think I first asked for coaching in our platform in circle and we kind of went back and forth, um, and then I remember getting on a call with you and I was just like I was bawling, I was sobbing, I was crying, um, and your advice or your coaching towards me was like, oh, danelle, this is beautiful.
Speaker 2:Now you can feel pain. And I was like girl what you said now, that you can feel pain, that means you can feel love. And I probably was looking at you like you had two heads because I was like I'm not, that's not what I'm trying to hear. How do I get this man to respond to me? Is what I'm trying to hear right now? Oh my God. And you actually told me to read the Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle. The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle, and that was honestly probably the biggest, at least the first turning point and breakthrough that I had in the program, because it really taught that reading that book really showed me the value of being like present and acceptance for whatever is like. It just is and it's okay and something's beautiful will still come out of it.
Speaker 1:So yeah, girl, it's so funny Cause I didn't even remember that until you bought it up. I know you probably was. I know a lot of people on that call probably thought I was crazy when I said that because, and the more like your ability to be hurt and grieve, like first of all, what I saw was a win, with somebody who was closed, was able to be cracked open and like feel sad and grief, like that's huge for a close person, because close people usually compartmentalize and avoid the emotions or they don't take the time to feel it. So when you came to that call breaking down, I know you felt sad, but I was so happy inside. I was so happy. I was like my girl is not close. She's not close. This is amazing. It's her breakthrough.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, it was my breakthrough. And now every time I see somebody else come and they're like crying over something, and I'm like, oh my God, this is their breakthrough. You know, in my mind I'm not saying that, but I'm like they about to get some good results. Now it's like how I think about it.
Speaker 1:Exactly Because the because the deeper, the deeper you can feel the pain, the more abundantly you can feel love. But if you can't feel the pain, if you're not willing to feel the pain, you're not able to feel the love, you're not able to experience it. And when you came to that call Ball and I said, oh yeah, she about to feel it, she about to get all this love. She just don't even know it. So I was really, really excited about that. And so let's talk about the love that you were able to experience after that process and after you have an acceptance. What was love like?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, it felt so good. I really started having. I really started attracting really amazing men that were just willing to meet me in my desires wherever they were. But I started. I think the most important part is I started to feel. I started to feel and I was like, oh my God, I didn't know it could feel this good because, likely, at some point I experienced the pain and was like I don't want to feel that kind of pain anymore. But being able to now understand the pain is a part of the process and the pain is a part of the process. We're not able, if we want to live a full life, you cannot avoid the pain or try to prevent the pain. That's just not the point. But I started attracting really amazing men that were emotionally available. They were emotionally available towards me. I got to create really great experiences with them and creating, just continuing to create opportunities for me to explore my own emotional availability in a safe way.
Speaker 1:The fact that you were able to process your pain.
Speaker 1:And I want a lot of women, I want everyone listening to hear this Whenever you go through a state of pain or grief around a man, the best thing to do is just feel all the feelings and embrace and accept all of them, because if you don't, you will actually shut yourself off to better men in the future.
Speaker 1:You will actually sabotage your ability to attract better men in the future because that pain will just be sitting with you versus just allowing it to come out, having a lot of love and acceptance for it and knowing that you can hold yourself through any type of grief, any type of loss, and get right back at it. So, for example, before we were on this call, you and I, we were speaking about our own recent breakups. So, if you're listening to this call, I recently had a really rough breakup that had lots of pain, lots of grief. If you listen to this episode I talked about it on a previous episode for you to listen to Talk about how this recent breakup has been a testament to your ability to feel and navigate the place that you're in now for even better men. Navigate the place that you're in now for even better men.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this. So this particular ending, it actually came as quite the shock to me. That's how confident I am now. I was like, are you ending it with me, are you sure?
Speaker 2:But I view the ending as really, you know, it doesn't feel good in the moment, but when I really think about it, the ending came because I wanted something specific and he recognized that he didn't have capacity or was unwilling to provide it. And to me that's a blessing because you set me free and I know that now that I can let this go, what I really want is waiting for me somewhere. But I was able to really accept what he said his words. I feel very sad about it. Sometimes I feel angry, sometimes I feel relief. I have really gone through the entire spectrum of feelings throughout this, um, to be honest. But I can cry about it and still be okay, like I'm not going to curl up in my bed and like feel um, disheartened, or like I'm never going to get another man as good as him, like I know that I have the skills to go out and create this experience again. So I think that's one thing like fully being in acceptance of it, even though it doesn't feel great in the moment was a big win for me.
Speaker 2:And, just for context, the ending came because I was enforcing a boundary that was important to me and it was really. That boundary was really rooted in like, what my self-worth, what I believe I deserve, and someone being able to like, honor my time and the importance of how I view my time, and so I cannot express how important it is to be able to communicate your boundaries clearly to someone, because it gives them the opportunity to figure out if they can show up in that way for you or not. So I had to accept it. I'm like, okay, this is what I said I require, and you're saying you don't have the capacity for that requirement, and I think in previous times I would have been like, oh okay, well, let's see if we can figure something out, or maybe you know, and I didn't back down from it, I didn't back down from it and that was a big win for me to just hold the line and accept this and the boundary skill that you employed Brilliant.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that you were able to tell this man this is the impact of what's happening, like I know you're a good dude, but like this is the impact that's happening when you make these choices. Here's how you can make repair from the impact. You can make repair this way, you can make repair that way, you can make repair this way. And he sat with it and processed it and he was like you know what? I'm not able to make repair, I'm going to just bow out. So it wasn't like this nasty, you know, weird, kind of like passive, aggressive, like you're not doing this and you're not doing that, or playing the blame game. It's simply like here's the impact of this behavior. I'm completely unavailable for this. If you would like to stay in connection with me, here's how you can make repair Step one, step two, step three. Girl, I'm just saying you didn't break it down for the people, because when people hear boundaries, they hear. Some people hear defensiveness, some people hear walls.
Speaker 1:They don't hear connection. Boundaries should lead to connection. It isn't just about like I'm putting a wall up, you don't go past, go, don't collect 200. It's like here's what I'm not available for, but boundaries are also, here's what I am available for. I'm not available for this, but I am available for this, for us to stay in connection. Once say you yeah, and you were able. And he was like look, I processed it, I'm not able to do it. And you were like I love you and I understand, yeah, and now we get to cry.
Speaker 2:And now we get to cry. I think the other win for me in this situation is he, um, he, so I, when I said hey, um, I, I basically said some rendition of like I accept this for what it is. I had a great time. I learned so much about myself I don't have any hard feelings here Um, and he said absolutely it was valuable for me to friend, like should we be friends? And I actually initially said yes, I said I think I can, I said I think I can probably handle that Um, and then, like a day passed and he like texted me and I didn't respond right away. And then he had like sent a little nudge, like why didn't I respond to his texts? And I said you know what I? Actually? I had some time to think about things and I don't have capacity for a friendship between us right now.
Speaker 2:And that, to me, was me prioritizing myself, because the best thing for me to do, for me to do at the moment this doesn't mean it's always the same for everybody or the same for every relationship was to process my grief and to live it out, but also not navigating.
Speaker 2:How do I tone back my love for this man? How do I be in a relationship that looks like a friendship, that's not prioritizing my own needs. That was me trying to appear to be, appear to like be OK with it, and that just it just wasn't what I needed. I instead took the time to truly process my grief look at how I showed up in the connection, how he showed up in the connection, understand areas in which I could have showed up differently or he could have shown up differently. But I also took the time to really evaluate this new person that I've become throughout this process, because the truth is, I got to really grow in that connection with him and I practice a lot of very key relational skills, so I am essentially a different person and so. But when I did that, I was ready to update Hinge Bumble Like I think I was right away in the community. Like, okay, review my online profile please.
Speaker 1:You came in, you came and run, you did DAP, the 10s I saw that, yeah, I I that, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:So that same weekend it was maybe a Thursday that I had sent him my text Like this is my boundary, this is how you repair. Friday I went out, hadn't heard back from him but, yep, I was dapping the tents, I was out and about. This is Memorial Day weekend. Saturday I went to the Jazz Fest, and the morning before the Jazz Fest is when he ended things. So I was at the Jazz Fest behind my sunglasses, crying.
Speaker 1:But I was. Had on my Ray-Bans, you know, like tears escaping I love it, I love it, and the thing is we're able to cry, we're able to grieve, but we're also able to still take action, because we don't let that pain live in our bodies.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I mean I let it flow. I was like, okay, I'm out here at Jazz Fest you know, I'm just looking at couples. I'm like this is something I would have wanted to do with him and that made me feel sad in that moment and I let the tears flow. My girlfriends that I was with, they were like are you okay? You know you need me to buy you a shot. You know all of that. And I let it pass. And then I was back out there.
Speaker 1:You know all in the same day and at that time I didn't even know there was a breakup like you posted in the community like reviewing hinge. You know you were like can you review this? Can you do it like you can? You were this Can you do it Like you can? You were coming to um, the, the workshop call. I was like, okay, all right, we back in here, we're back in here. And we didn't have to. I need to heal for three months. I can't. I have to. I have to process this in like.
Speaker 1:No, the best way for you to heal is to put yourself first, put yourself in position. Like for you to heal is to put yourself first, put yourself in position, like because the feelings are there for a reason and they're there because you, you require abundant love. Let's go get it for yourself. You require it, you require it. And speaking of putting yourself first and prioritizing yourself, you had to do that. Dating as a single mom what was that like? To put your needs first, when a lot of after divorce at that Cause, a lot of women will be like well, I just got divorced, so I really just need to focus on my time, on my child and make sure that they're acclimated, and I can't really date at this time Cause they're still young. I think your son was maybe three at the time.
Speaker 2:I think so. Yeah, was he three or four.
Speaker 1:About to turn four at least.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was at least about to turn four. He might have already been four. I think he had turned four around the time we had our sales call.
Speaker 1:So it's like you had to put yourself first as a divorced single mom. How was that?
Speaker 2:Did you have any feelings around that? Well, one of the things that I've been clear about and will continue to be clear, is that my child deserves a happy mom. No-transcript, something like the event is a specific date. I may do that for myself, but I think the first thing I did was figure out what is an appropriate parenting schedule that can support my dating life, and that felt very radical, I think, to put that in place, because there are a lot of I guess there are a lot of messages that you may receive around like being about wanting to prioritize a love life as a specific area in your life, like wanting to prioritize a love life over your career or your kids, but the truth is they all exist together to make up a full ecosystem and that is truly what I created for me and my life, and I've always, and I also want my child to see men pouring into me.
Speaker 2:I haven't officially introduced him to anybody that I've been dating, but he picks up on things. He may come home from a weekend with his dad and be like where did those flowers come from? And I tell him mommy's friend really adores her, so he bought her some flowers because he knows I enjoy looking at flowers and experiencing them, and then we talk about what he likes about the flowers. I mean it's become like a point of connection for us as well, for me and my son. I also don't think I touched on the fact that my emotional availability has impacted my ability to connect with my child in a different way that I don't think I had availability for emotionally before.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's beautiful. Again, you can't change a love life without changing your entire life. All of it's affected. So thank you for sharing. Especially, I wanted the single mothers to hear, like how important it is for you to be a happy woman and how you're not a mom first you're a woman first.
Speaker 1:I always tell when I have clients coming and have that mom energy. I'm like girl, we know that you're a mom, but you're not a mom first. We got to clean up this mom energy. I'm like girl we know that you're a mom, but you're not a mom first. We got to clean up this mom energy. You're a mom, Well, you're a woman first, and let's lean into that. And so to our last word magnetism. You said, like Matt, what was the word? Was it magnetism? Magnetizing? I think Magnetizing your love life is magnetizing. What makes it magnetizing?
Speaker 2:I think, because I am available to experiencing love, well, experiencing all the feelings, really the world is drawn to me in a way that I didn't notice before. People, things, my desires, my things I think about, come to me now, um, like to the point where I'm confused. I'm like, did I tell somebody I wanted this? Um, and so, because I am more open and available, um, this could get a little woo woo for people, but it's like now the universe can respond to me and supply me with my, my desires and provide my desires for me, and they. It comes in different ways Sometimes it's a man, but sometimes it's a friend, sometimes it's a family member, sometimes it is literally a stranger. I don't know how to explain it, but opening yourself up really truly allows for things to just come to you and be drawn to you.
Speaker 1:Because you're ready. It's like when you're closed, it's like a fist balled up. There's nothing I can put in your fist because you're closed, you don't want anything. But as soon as you open up, it's like your fist opening up and the palm of your hand is stretched wide. I can actually have things put in my hand. At that point I can receive, and so I remember us talking in the DMs recently and you talking about all of this PR you're receiving for your business people wanting to work with you and collaborate and providing you space for your business. Like this is bigger than a man. If this was about a man, only, I would not be doing this work.
Speaker 2:Yes, Well that, but we don't know that going in.
Speaker 1:Well that's why I got to sell y'all on the man. I'm like, okay, let me help y'all get the man. I got to sell y'all on a man, but on the back end.
Speaker 2:Yes, and again, as much as you said, this is not just about a man, this is. It permeates throughout different areas of our life, and so I was able the same belief that I have, that I can adopt. I mean the same belief that I have that, um, I can have a beautiful dating life and the late the dating life I specifically curate and desire. I believe that for my business as well, and it has really inspired me to coach the women that I coach in a different way. I focus a lot on the career aspect and leadership and now I'm able to incorporate more of like what do you want it to look like and we'll create that. So it's opened up more creativity in that space and being able to support women in a very radical and audacious way to say we're creating the life you want, and audacious way to say we're creating the life you want. You don't have to do it this way. Let's first start with what your internal desires are. So it has opened up a different way to connect with my clients and to coach people.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because if you're helping people get what they want and not this cookie cutter thing of because imagine you being limited in what you believe it's kind of hard to help clients get what they want because you don't even believe it Right, but you're cracked open, you believe it. You're like, oh yeah, I could definitely help them do that. Not only does that lead to happy clients and better results, but it also leads to more money, to happy clients and better results. But it also leads to more money. Because it leads to more money, because you're helping people design this life that they want. They're going to tell all their friends, you're going to get recommendations, you're going to get referrals and people are going to be pouring in. So it permeates your entire life for you to create what you desire. So, oh, loving that for you.
Speaker 1:Again, if this was only about a man, I would not be in business right now. I would not. I. It does not appeal to me to make this all about men. This is, this is the real thing right here, because whether you have a man or not, you need to have the life that you absolutely are excited about and then the love that you are excited about at the same time, but you got to make sure that they go hand in hand and we're not just focusing on men. Um, all right, you ready for the rapid fire round? Because we're we're nearing the end. You ready for rapid fire? Yeah, let's do it. Okay, what advice would you give a woman who is freshly divorced and she would like to be at least in another long-term relationship in the future? Like what's one piece of advice you would give to her?
Speaker 2:A woman that is freshly divorced and wants to be in a long-term relationship in the future, long-term relationship in the future Um, I would tell her there is no need to delay her desire. Um, there's no, there's no one way to do things. Um, so listen to your internal wisdom and your heart. Um, and there's no, there's no reason to to just start with the baby steps. Um, that can help you start to heal and start to process your divorce.
Speaker 1:What's one piece of advice you would give to a single mom who doesn't know how to date, doesn't even see how she really can like. What piece of advice would you give her?
Speaker 2:Um. So one thing I would say if you, if you don't believe you can, um, really start to tap into what it would take to can. What would it take for you to be able to do this and then say I can or can't do it? So really anchor your thoughts around what is actually true, because you only need a few hours. Are you telling me you can't find a few hours anywhere in an entire week that you might be able to go on a date? So really think about what it is that is truly blocking you and realize that you just need to find a solution for that. Now, having the skills is a different thing. Not knowing how to date is a different thing, and I would tell you to seek help in that area if you truly feel like you don't have the skills.
Speaker 2:And towards a good person for that. I am a person that believes in being resourced. I don't want to spend years figuring something out, so I will go find the help, whether it's paid help or free.
Speaker 1:So what advice would you give? Cause you're a busy business owner, right? What advice would you give to a busy business owner that's like I got to work on a bit of my business, cause you're building your business right With a nine to five job. With a nine to five job, you have a nine to five job. You're building your business right With a nine to five job. With a nine to five job, you have a nine to five job. You're building your business. Both sides are profitable. What advice would you give the person that's like oh, I'm trying to build my business, I'm trying to build my business and that's what I'm focused on. So I'll date later.
Speaker 2:As I've already expressed, being able to date has actually expanded more opportunities for me to be able to build my business and shift how I approach my business.
Speaker 2:So I would say, have a complete and balanced life would be my advice there, and I create opportunities to do both. A networking event is an opportunity to meet a man or meet a business contact. The other thing I will say is and I think this applies to the single moms too I think there is a belief that, like a date has to look a certain way, or men are only available to date you in a certain way, um, but when you are truly showing up as your authentic self, these men don't care. They want some of the juice. Okay, they will meet you for breakfast, they will meet you for your 7 am run. If that's what you do every day, they will figure it out. And so my advice is to truly figure out what your lines are, what your boundaries are, and make yourself available within whatever that space is that you create for yourself, and let let them come figure it out.
Speaker 1:Come on now I literally just had a client tell me this past week, last week. She says this man flew to see her for three hours, a three hour window she had. She was visiting another city and she was like I'm doing this, I'm doing that, I only have three hours. This man flew in for three hours as a single mom. They want the juice.
Speaker 2:And that is, I mean, that was a big breakthrough. It's like figuring out like me, just being myself is so valuable to these men, Like they get so much from it, so don't view it as like they're spending their money to take out on a day or they you know it's so much time, like they have to give you so much time, Like this is a mutually beneficial relationship or connection. We're all benefiting from it. So definitely recognize what your self worth is, your self concept. Work on that and get creative. Get creative with the dates.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and one more question for those who have been listening to this podcast. They've been consuming dating content, but they've been kind of iffy about making an investment that would support them with coaching. Otherwise, when it comes to dating especially like working with me in any kind of way what advice would you give them if they're like on the fence or holding back when it comes to investing in coaching?
Speaker 2:I mean, I tell everybody about my dating coach.
Speaker 2:So and this was something I was very reluctant to share with a lot of people when I first started working with you but the transformational is truly invaluable.
Speaker 2:The money that you're going to spend to work with Torah is going to come back to you in some way, whether it is your ability to show up better in your career at work and ask for more money. Create a business, start a business, do better in business, the dates and experiences and gifts and things that men provide as part of this process, the. It's going to come back tangibly. But there are so many intangible ways, um, that it will come back to you that I would say do not let the investment piece, um, do not let the investment piece stop you. If you, if you are able to afford it, I would say, if you are able to afford it I would say move forward in working with Tora 100%. I've always been a person that will invest in my professional development and I've also gone to therapy, but this is probably the first time I've invested in like more of a personal development program and it is as equally as equally valuable, if not more, than, the professional development aspect.
Speaker 1:Thank you for sharing. Thank you for coming out, taking the time to speak to the ladies. This conversation was absolutely enlightening, I know, for lots of people who listen to it and I know that your story has inspired so many different people, so don't be surprised if you get some DMs or people reaching out. So thank you for coming out.
Speaker 2:Any last word for the ladies I guess I would just say please. I guess I would just say expand your beliefs, expand your imagination, get creative and just go out and create the life that you want.
Speaker 1:You can have it, you can have it All right, danelle, thanks for coming out. Love you, girl, looking forward to seeing what comes next from you.
Speaker 2:Thank, you so much. I love you and thank you for having me on your podcast and letting me tell my story.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, everybody wants to hear it. All right, girl, that was the episode. I am so happy that I got to sit down with her and for her to tell her story from a woman who was divorced from a single mom, from a high achieving woman who's building a business Like she has all of the reasons why people say, well, I can't date or I can't do that, and she's like blowing the excuses out of the water and making it happen for herself. And so I hope you were inspired by this particular interview and I also hope you were encouraged to get on the wait list to join C2C.
Speaker 1:When I start talking about it publicly, you definitely want to be on the wait list to join so that you make sure that you get first dibs on the spot, and whoever's on a wait list they do get first dibs on the spot and it's a very affordable option for you to um, for you to get the help that you need in your love life, especially if my price working with me one-to-one was completely out of your range, and it's definitely out now because I've doubled my price. Um, for anyone who was like thinking about working with me like literally have doubled my price because I'm like all booked out and so yeah, if you want to work with me in a higher like a higher touch capacity, like you don't want to join just a course, you want mentorship. You definitely want to see about joining C2C when it goes public. So make sure that you get on the wait list and then also, if you love this episode, go ahead and leave a review. Let Danelle know that you enjoyed her episode and until next time. Bye.