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In Search of Peace: Liz Wright’s Journey to Understanding
Dive into this deeply insightful episode of the Greater Things Podcast featuring Liz Wright as we explore the transformative power of love and connection with God. In a world often marked by chaos and uncertainty, Liz shares her profound story of being enveloped in divine love and how this experience reshaped her understanding of identity and purpose.
Tune in as Liz recounts her initial encounter with God's unconditional love, leading her from a place of pain and confusion to a confident belief in her value as a cherished child of God. She emphasizes the importance of knowing who we are in Christ—royalty in His kingdom—and highlights how this awareness empowers us to embrace peace amid life’s challenges. We discuss the essential nature of rest and how cultivating a deep connection with God brings about not just peace but also the ability to love and serve others genuinely.
By the end of this episode, you’ll walk away with practical insights about deepening your relationship with Jesus, embracing your true self, and embodying love that influences those around you. Join us in this journey of exploring your identity and resting in divine love. Don't forget to subscribe, share, and leave a review!
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Today on the Greater Things Podcast, I am with Liz Wright. She is a well-known speaker, teacher, author, mentor and now brand new friend, trust you'll enjoy. Well, today on the Greater Things Podcast, I am with a brand new friend of mine. Her name is Liz Wright. I've been following Liz for a time and I have so much enjoyed, very much listening to her heart through all the things that she puts up online, and I've got the privilege today of spending some time having a chat with her. But firstly, good morning, liz.
Speaker 2:Good morning, Matt. It's great to be with you.
Speaker 1:And how are you today?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm doing really well. Yeah, really am Looking forward to seeing what the Lord's going to pour out through the pair of us as we speak.
Speaker 1:I am as well. I think, liz, one of the things that drew me to you initially was the peace in your voice. I don't know you probably get that comment all the time, but there is such a peace and gentleness and a kindness to your voice and I found that the fruit that's inside of you is something that I know that is blessing many people. When I told people I'm interviewing Liz Wright today, they're like can't wait to hear what she has to say.
Speaker 2:That blesses my heart. Yeah, quite a few people have said you know the peace. It's funny because, um, people say, oh, I go to sleep listening to you every night, you know, and it's it's wonderful to know that you know that actually, the, the peace that the lord's, you know, put inside of my voice, I suppose to say it that way is really affecting people. It really does calm people. And, yeah, and I did, um, I did an album for my book Reflecting God with Alberto Rivera. He put the music together for it a few years back now and he contacted me one day and he just said to me Liz, there is a frequency, an actual frequency of peace. The Lord has actually put peace inside your voice. And so, yeah, yeah, amazing.
Speaker 1:I love it. Well, liz, for people who may not be aware of you, would you mind just taking a few moments just to introduce who is Liz Wright?
Speaker 2:that's such a fabulous question. Okay, let's see if I can answer it concisely and completely connected on the inside, like authentically, who am I? So? I am somebody that, by the grace of jesus, has through the through how I came into the kingdom initially, which was through a physical visitation from Jesus, where I wasn't from. You know, you know some of my story, but without going through all of it immediately, sort of right now.
Speaker 2:Initially I had no understanding. I'd not grown up in church, I wasn't spiritual, I was just really desperate, couldn't cope with my life, you know, with all that was going on in my life, just absolutely overwhelmed and reached the end of myself. And so I was desperate and by his amazing grace and mercy and love, he visited me and stood in front of me, and so I went from understanding my identity as one way and life as one way to, in a moment as I standing in front of God himself. Oh, I feel his presence, whoa, wow. When I was standing in front of him, all that I could feel Matt was perfect love pouring into me from him as light and power, see anywhere I can describe it. So his face was glowing with an iridescent glow of light. There was gent, gentleness, and coming from his eyes were beams of light, like it says in hebrews. You know, he was literally shining, and that light is love, because he's love.
Speaker 2:And so I was a complete broken mess. You know, I'd had depression. I was just fractured, I was dissociated, I'd had all the stuff you know that lots of us go through. I was a mess inside, full of anxiety and fear because of what I was living in at the time, which was an abusive situation, and I was worn out, like so. My emotions were just exhausted. I was numb, like the whole thing. And his love so poured into me as a tangible force. Love so poured into me as a tangible force, it dissolved out of my interior life. Trauma, fear, overwhelm, all the toxic, intense emotions that I was holding dissolved and was replaced by love and absolute acceptance. And this, my heart, came alive. Man, I knew, oh my gosh, he is the risen God. It's all true, he's a God of love, I am loved, I am absolutely loved, and so my identity became solid and totally transformed.
Speaker 2:So I came out of that experience with. I couldn't even see brokenness in other people, couldn't see sin, couldn't see sin, couldn't see anything. I was so completely put back together, born again, washed clean, literally, so I could remember my past, but it didn't. I wasn't emotional about it. There was sting was gone, the trauma was gone. So I all and I was filled with purity, filled literally washed, born again, filled with love, filled with the knowing how intensely we're loved, how completely we're loved, how incredibly valuable we are, that we actually are children of God. We really are his living image, we are the focus of his heart, because I'd experienced it.
Speaker 2:So who am I? I am a woman who lives in utter for Jesus. He's my life and absolute conviction regarding our identity and burning passion that everybody would understand that we actually are truly royalty, that we really are loved by God. We are the beloved of Jesus. We are on earth with delegated authority here to extend Eden, to bring his kingdom on earth, to partner with him in the restoration of all things. However, that's going to unfold. The plan is back on track, the original plan. It's the truth.
Speaker 2:So and and it's and I and I. On the inside, I'm very childlike, I'm very uncomplicated, like I just simply live to breathe his presence and live to experience him and and reveal him to every person, and I don't do that perfectly, like none of us do. We're in, I'm in my walk of life, you know, but the core of me is just living in that place of union with him, of loving him, receiving his love and revealing him, and knowing that that is the immense privilege and it's actually our design that we host the spirit of god and can reveal him. And I'm passionate about understanding and experiencing the absolute authority that I believe we have, because the one who is absolute authority is residing in us, like so we can live secure in his love, through intimacy and union with him in a very practical, real, constant way, and then we get to reveal the beauty of who he is as we're experiencing those different aspects of who he is. So in the core of me, that's now who I am.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm a child of god, you know, who just loves him, loves him and seeks to just trust him with everything, all the time. And that's the simplicity, it's childlike trust, like with everything, everything you know, just all the time, when in fear or reaction, just trust, let go trust, let go trust. And you know just the privilege of being able to journey in our life to know him. And the other thing that I'll just share in finishing this answer is one of the most incredible changes that happened to me, like I said when I came out of that experience was I was in the room with my ex-husband, who's now in heaven, and I'd gone from the moment before that experience reacting and risk, managing problematic behavior and not doing that very well.
Speaker 2:And when I came out of the experience, all I could feel was immense supernatural love and this knowing of the immense value of everybody. So I was like for a while I was totally connected to the heart of God, regarding everybody and recognizing that everyone is royalty and as we serve people with our kindness, as we are connected to him on the inside, this is the walk, like you can. Supernatural kindness, supernatural compassion, as you know, releases the power of god into somebody's life, and the only I don't. So I don't define people by how they're temporarily showing up, reacting to their journey in life. Because of this, I know, yeah, that might have to have boundaries, but the core of me knows, because of what I've experienced, that the one in front of me that might be high maintenance temporarily is absolutely adored by God and his royalty. They're just not aware, you know, in that moment they're not aware the enemy is deceiving them. So yeah, there we go. So I think that's who I am really wow what a beautiful answer.
Speaker 1:as you're talking, there's so many, I feel, like thoughts and questions I have going through my mind around this, because love for me is the basis, like it's God is love and we work from that orientation. I was raised in quite a religious place and it took me, I guess, a long while to work out what love was. I had to separate it from religion, like from what duty called me to, and into encountering a love that changes. I wonder and this sounds like it might have happened quickly for you how quickly did love become trust for you?
Speaker 2:Did love become trust in terms of my capacity to. So I knew that I was loved by the lord, and then to be able to trust him yeah so great that question.
Speaker 2:It was instant. And it was also a journey because life happened to me and so, um, so the circumstances I was in didn't didn't change, but I was massively, completely different. So I immediately completely knew that I was loved and that he was God and sovereign and I was his child and living image, and so my identity was very stable and secure and for anybody to tell me differently would have just been irrational and bounced off. And sometimes, when people did, it was meaningless, you know. And sometimes, when people did, it was meaningless, you know. But then the journey of just trusting him, with the daily circumstances that I would walk through in life, just reflecting back, like so one of the things I went through was because of the continuing, prolonged stress, um, I would react and forgive, but I was still, my body was still being impacted, my emotions were still being impacted by my journey and I eventually got very ill a number of years later with a condition called motor neuron transmission disorder which I was dying from. I wouldn't have survived it, but the Lord healed me. So I think I've always trusted him. To be honest, matt, I just had to journey through the circumstances I was in and learn. So one of the things he said to me when I was physically with him was come with me always, come and rest with me a while. So that's been a journey, and so he's brought me back to that truth over and over and over. Let go, let go and trust me, let go and trust me. The simplicity of that, and so it's, if that makes sense. I've always he's my first focus in any situation I'm dealing with. So, like with mutiny, and he did. He baptized me and again in love and healed and healed me, and it's recorded. You know I was under a Harley Street doctor in London. I'd been in the London clinic for 10 days and they couldn't kill me, you know, and so, and then I got absolutely blasted, baptized with love, experienced the father's love, and that was it, you know, all over again and I was totally set free and so. But I had to go through that journey with him of walking it out day by day and learning and continuing to learn, to live and rest, let go, anything like.
Speaker 2:There was another experience I had with the Lord where, um, for a few hours he was standing behind me in the spirit with his hand on my shoulder, and as he was doing that, there was supernatural faith dispensing through me and I became aware of tension I was holding in my nervous system. And then, like you know, just like gripping, and I wasn't even aware I was holding myself with certain matters that I was dealing with and not realizing that I was. You know, there was tension there. And he just whispered to me so gently and he said to me that's unbelief. And I was like, oh wow, and so he just would have me notice where I was tense and then let go Like, okay, lord, I just give you that, I give you that situation, I give you that relationship, I give you that financial need I give you, you know, whatever all the different things.
Speaker 2:And I would sink and just sink, and faith would dispense through me and sink and rest. And again it was like just always come and rest with me, just rest, I want you to live in rest. And sink and rest. And again it was like just always come and rest with me, just rest, I want you to live in rest. So, yeah, so I think on one level I've always trusted him. And then I go through the journey of the emotion of what I'm dealing with and just keep giving it to him. So that was a very long answer, but, yeah, I think I'm trying to answer it. Honestly, I've never even thought about that kind of question. So yes, yeah.
Speaker 1:The concept of rest, I think, for so many Christians. We talk about it and we preach it, but it sounds like you've found how you rest. Would that be true to say yeah?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's taught me. So the first thing that I do is I prioritize my internal connection to his presence, and then I let go of the external world so I turn the gaze of my heart yeah, I mean my heart's attention, my mind's attention within, to his spirit within me. And and from there I tune back in to that one truth. Like it's Ephesians 4, isn't it 23 and 24 in the Passion Translation. It says we are changed by every unfolding revelation. We are transformed as we embrace the glorious Christ within as our new life and live in union with him. So I literally do that scripture. And then, um, john G Lake also says something that so impacted me in his in one of his books he's quoted as saying that the key to all the thousands of healings that he saw happen through his ministry was that he would get the person, whether they, you know, wherever they were at in their walk, that he would, before anything, he would pray, that they would become sensitized to the reality of holy spirit inside them. And as soon as they became aware of that in their physical body of him, in their physical body, the healing would start to manifest. And so that's I prioritize that sensory connection, by focusing on the truth that Christ's within me and fully expect. You know that this as I do, that I embrace him as my new life.
Speaker 2:Inside of me, his spirit is dispensing through me all the time and from his riches in glory right, all our needs are met. So his presence is the glory right inside of us. So I lean into him and just let go and it's like I sink in to him within me and then, like burdens, you know, I just let them float up and so the oil of his presence just lifts them away from me until I'm immersed in him, because he's peace, right, he's peace and rest. And so that's what I do as a. If I'm running too fast in the day, if I'm disconnecting and I'm out in my emotions, you know, carrying the responsibilities and the weights, and not in flow, not in connectedness to my union with him, I stop and just turn in for a few minutes and just let go and reconnect back in, like I do it now. I'm so used to it now. You know it's my new way of life.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I just find I'm back in rest, I'm just back in tune with him, in tune with the reality of the oneness. So he hasn't gone anywhere, right? We disconnect through our conscious awareness, and so I reconnect, and that's the core value of my life, really. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I have a strong belief that rest is a part of our design, and so much of my life I lived towards rest, not from rest. And for a recovering people, pleaser, if I can say that out loud. And for a recovering people, pleaser, if I can say that out loud. Rest has been something that I've had to initially compete for, like it's just that where is that place?
Speaker 1:I've got to get to that place, I've got to run to that place, and when you realise it's a part of our design, it then becomes a necessary component of life, just the the cherry on the cake at the end of the day, when you get to kick your feet up and watch tv or do something like that. But it's that place where you operate from where? How long ago did you learn this?
Speaker 2:yeah, um, I've got more language around it now because people have asked me to, over the years a lot to verbalize my internal process. They, they want to. You know people understandably, we all do they want people want to know the how. So what does that look like? What are you actually doing? Can you language that?
Speaker 2:So when I wrote reflecting god, it was an, it was part of it was in response to that. It's like okay, right, how do how do I actually do what I do, cause it's I don't think about it, you know, but and and and vocalize that and so, yeah, it's, um, it's the most important thing in my life is to live connected into the awareness of his presence and it's just, yeah, like you, you said, it's part of our design to live from there. It is because, and peace and rest, I have discovered over and over and over, is a person. So I would say that I was given the gift of sensitivity to his presence, which enabled me to live in rest. But how?
Speaker 2:I maintain that I was not conscious of what I was doing until people started to ask me how to language it, and so part of the part of the languaging has made me aware, and that's been more recent, that's been over the last 10 years. I would say that I'm consciously aware of the lifestyle I'm living instinctively in him, and so now it's, and it's great, it's been a brilliant, brilliant exercise, you know, for me as well, because it makes me very intentional about protecting my connection and prioritizing rest, because that says living in our authentic design and our authentic internal state and the privilege of what's happened. Right, it's the gospel. We now live in union with god, and I want to be aware of that and benefit from that relationship, you know, and living in the dream, and it's his, we're his dream, aren't we like? What he's created us to be is his dream, and I want to live in the fullness of that, intentionally and awake. So, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The verse that's coming to mind is in Romans 12, where it talks about the transformation of the way that we think that the Holy Spirit will give us that place, and it sounds very much to me like the transformation work for yourself. Like you've said before, it's a journey. It started from someplace, probably even long before we even knew that it was starting, and the Holy Spirit was tapping us on the shoulder and drawing us into that place. So, when the way that we think changes, the way that we do, relationship transforms as well. And so love for me. I love how Paul says the love of God is higher and wider and deeper and longer. I love that he gives four dimensions to that.
Speaker 1:Liz, it just blows my mind that Paul is there in that place of going. How can I describe it, I don't know. So let me put four dimensions to this concept of love and see where we go from there. When I listen to you, like even right now, like online, the sense of what God has done in your life is dramatic. But the power of what God does in your life now, like there's a manifestation of love in you, like even as we talk right here, that flows so powerfully and so deeply when I listen to you speak. This is not a theology. I'm not in college right now sitting and going, writing notes of going. How does Liz get to this concept to believe that God is, that it simply comes, it seems, from just sitting with you and that the love that flows from you just leaks from you and changes the people that are around you? Would that be your experience or your testimony?
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, and it's all by grace, isn't it? It's just, this is the like it says, you know, in the Scriptures those that live in union with him, fruitfulness will stream from their life. It's not, it's not what we know, it's who we know. Right, it's just about enjoying the relationship with him, because we can, because he's accessible, and just tuning in and being aware every day that his presence is there, and honoring that and valuing that, and he will. You know, he's like a powerful magnet, isn't he? He draws his presence, draws you into an awakened state, into a deeper experience of him, and that's the passion of the cross, isn't it? It was the passion for the restored relationship with us that held the nails, like you know, and literally, and so so I, I just encourage that in everyone. Like he's the one that changes the atmosphere, he's the one that heals people, he's the one that shines through our life and touches somebody with kindness, and it you know. You know, and when it's the presence of Jesus, when it's the person of Jesus manifesting through his body, continuing his ministry, as we just yield and lean into him on the inside, the world changes. You know, I got to share this. Can I share one of my wild stories. Absolutely, this is a wilderer one, it's very out of the box, so, but it really did happen. So I was in the car one day. This is the power of, like you know, love, when we're carrying, when he just we let him just take over.
Speaker 2:So I was in the car one day, driving with Wes, with my husband Wes he's doing, he's driving about 70 miles an hour. We're going to see a friend on the road and I'd had a number of Satanists contact me and tell me that they were cursing me. And it's very, you know. Ok, thanks for letting me know. Ok, heads up, yeah. And it actually, you know know, it wasn't very nice. They were doing a lot of things and it was becoming very oppressive, the witchcraft, and so I was praying for them. But, and it had gone on for a number of weeks and Wes was starting to have physical symptoms in his heart, so they were really, you know, not being particularly cuddly, not very nice, and so it.
Speaker 2:So I was in the car with wes and this wave of witchcraft came over again, and I just turned my attention back to jesus and just said, well, what do I do? You know, just show me how to deal with this. And the spirit and the next thing, the spirit realm opens up. So, at one and the the same time, I go into this full blown vision and this car on the left hand side of us starts to ram and try to ram into the side of the car to knock us off the road. Oh, wow, so Wes is an advanced police trained driver, so he used to be in the police and so, thank goodness, he could do some you know nifty maneuvers and get us out of trouble so we didn't end up in a car crash.
Speaker 2:So all that was happening. The spirit realm opens up and I see the warlock right in front of me that had been cursing me, like badly cursing me, and instantaneously, as I look at him the only way I can describe it Matt Jesus came front and center inside of me and took over me, like obviously I've given him my life, he has permission to do whatever. You know, I'm his body, he took possession of me and he began to radiate out of me and speak to this man. And there was just love, like waves of intense love pouring through me, as jesus just spoke to him, and this absolute compassion and love for this man who had you know, would have really liked it if I'd have love for this man who had, you know, would have really liked it if I'd have left the planet.
Speaker 2:You know, it was that serious, the cursing, and it was just. I was like I just went backwards inside, took a back seat and Jesus just took over and this went. And then suddenly I watched as this man slumped forward, his shoulders slumped forward, he moved towards me and I, instinctively. Two things happened, actually. The first thing that happened at the very beginning was Jesus took moved my hand and out of my finger I saw this beam of red light and jesus was moving it on the forehead of this guy. He must have been cleaning out, you know what had been affecting his life, um, demonically. And then I, my arms, moved out. So, yeah, I can.
Speaker 2:Jesus just took over and I reached out towards this man as he slumped forward towards me and I took hold of his arms and out of my heart, out of my mouth, came the words welcome home, my brother, welcome home. And I was absolutely possessed with love. All I could feel for this man was the love of God, and in that moment I knew that there was no covenant with Satan, there was no demonic power that could withstand the power of the love of Jesus. Just confronting all of that and setting this man free, and I was overwhelmed with love for him and, just over and over, like welcome home, welcome home, my brother.
Speaker 2:And then the spirit realm closed up and Wes was like what the heck and all the symptoms of all the oppression it would. It was completely gone, whereas his heart was fine, his body went back to normal. We carried on driving and went to our friends and we were like, oh my gosh, but that that changed my life again, because I experienced Jesus and the power of who he is, the love of who he is, completely setting somebody free that was so in covenant with darkness. So, yeah, it's amazing, but that's the ministry of Jesus, isn't it? That's what can happen to us, is we're just enjoying him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, that's in the Bible. It talks about yada, the experiential knowing that God is God, like that's one of those moments Now, years ago. There's like, as I said to you before we went live, I've done a lot of work in deliverance ministry and I had a young lady come into my office and what had happened is a pastor friend had called me up and said Matt, I've been trying to cast this demon out for 48 hours and we can't do it. Can you help? And I said to him yeah, absolutely. And he brought this young lady and his whole church leadership team came with him because they were all trying to cast this demon out. Just let me clear my voice for a second.
Speaker 2:Tell.
Speaker 1:And when she got there, I just asked everyone just to leave the room and I sat with a person, an off-sider, my PA at the time, and I just looked her in the eyes and she couldn't look at me. Time. And I just looked her in the eyes and she couldn't look at me and I invited her to the real sense of her to speak just gently and I asked her what her name was and she gave to me a demonic name as to and I said no, that's not who I'm here to talk to. The pastor friend had given me her name and so I said is this your name? And as soon as I spoke her name, it was like everything. All the change just fell off this young lady and she started weeping.
Speaker 1:Anyway, the pastor came back in and sat beside this young lady. He just started weeping like he was weeping and he at the end of it because he was so overwhelmed, I actually put the young girl out and I said to the guy like are you okay? And he said to me I have been yelling and screaming at this demon for 48 hours and what you have done in the space of a few moments. And he said what's the secret? And I said there's no secret, it's always been love, it's always been love.
Speaker 1:And what happens is this guy fought where I invited him to love, to love a person that he's been fighting, and I found even in that situation, there was a lot of healing, because when you're yelling at somebody for 48 hours, that's not healthy behaviour on any stretch of anyone's imagination, and so the conversation then turns into a place of healing for him. As to what does this look like for you going forward here, and maybe there's a better conversation you can have with this young lady now that can result from a place of grace or peace or love. But those moments when you reach out, even to a warlock that sits in your car driving at 70 miles an hour, these moments, they become part of your story, where people can listen to what I've said or what you've said, and they've gone. Well, I've not had that experience. And well, my question is well, what experiences have you had?
Speaker 1:Like talk to me around the Spirit of God. Talk to me around the love of God. Talk to me around it, because whatever yours are are different from mine, and if you can share yours, I can learn, I can grow, I can discover something more of the love of God from a perspective that I have not had before. And so often in the Christian world, if we don't understand something, we can criticize it or we'll avoid it, rather than get curious around it. What I love about yourself, liz, is the curiosity that you carry in the kingdom that draws you deeper into the love of God and, as you go deeper, the revelation of the love of God. Like it's those moments in a car at 70 miles an hour, thanking God that your husband has been trained as a police driver. Well, you've got the business going on here, he's got the business going on there, and in the midst of that there's healing. It's just. That's a beautiful just. That's a beautiful teamwork.
Speaker 2:Teamwork, it's true, though, isn't it? It's like, and I think, the more deeply you experience his heart in all the different ways, because we're all unique and we all have our own relationship with him but the more you realize we really are family and we can celebrate each other's relationship with our Father, you know, with Jesus and Holy Spirit, and, like you said, learn from each other. We're learning different aspects of who he is, which is an invitation, really, that we can. It's which is an invitation, really, that we can each experience, you know, yes, uniquely, but, um, there's no competition in the kingdom, there's just family, learning and growing, and I really do believe that we were.
Speaker 2:You know, part of our design is to live a life of peace and joy. You know to to live. That's what eden means. Isn't it bliss? Like to live in a state of bliss, restored bliss. That's the kingdom, isn't it? The kingdom of god is righteousness, the nature of god, peace and joy in holy spirit, and then, I think, the world will look upon us and they will see him, and they will be inspired, and they'll remember who they are. We'll be a mirror, a clear mirror, you know, in front of them going. Look at you Like. Jesus came first right, firstborn among us, and said remember who you are, you know, so yeah, yeah, that's precious, that whole concept of remembering who you are.
Speaker 1:I think for myself, being raised in a church, discovering who I was, I guess I've always been curious around it. But when you discover it it's not just I'm a Christian, I'm not like you. Know how people say, I'm blessed and highly favoured and all of those sorts of things and they're really cool phrases. But I love going deeper, beyond those, to who are you? So when Jacob wrestles with God, god transforms him with the change of a name. And it's interesting in the Bible because the way that it's translated or recorded, it still keeps calling him Jacob. And I wonder how Jacob felt about that, liz. I wonder whether he's like hey, change my name, use the new name, don't use the liar and deceiver, use the new name. But they kept calling him Jacob and even throughout the Bible, he's the God of Jacob. I wonder at times where we're in a world that will often remind us of our past or our mistakes and not empower the identity that God has given to us today. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:I think that's really powerful. I think it's really important because, yeah, I was just thinking then about what the meaning of the name israel and what it means. It means prince, princes of god, doesn't it? Princes of god, you know? And it's, um, that's the truth of, of our actual nature, of our identity. We are princes of god, members of the royal household of yahweh, who, holy, holy, whoa, whoa, whoa I.
Speaker 2:I think you're right. It is very important that we don't allow the world to define us, our histories to define us. It's part of our story, but it's absolutely not our identity and who we are. In him, the truth of who we are, you know in him the truth of who we are. It's essential that we sit in that paradigm, you know that paradigm of truth and then, because we express, our nature expresses regarding who we believe, we are right, and so it's so important to sit in truth and then authentically show up in the world in terms of the truth of who we actually are. So, yeah, and I think that's really, really important, that's beautiful. Listen, only be defined by who God says we are, because nothing else is real, not real.
Speaker 1:Liz, I'm going to put a CELAR moment in our podcast. I just want to say thank you. Thank you for sharing your heart, thank you for sharing what God has done in the stories. Is there anything you'd like to drop on us before we sign off?
Speaker 2:um, I just encourage people to prioritize the connection. Just prioritize the connection, the awareness of his presence, and life changes, as you know, dramatically changes. It's all fruit, all fruitfulness in the life flows from that place of true intimate connection, relationship, and just simplify. I think that's what the Lord's doing, isn't it? He's deconstructing religion really quickly now and freeing us to just live from the place of relationship and to. He's bringing us forth as an expression of love, an expression of Christ in us, now, no longer I, the adamic nature that lives, but christ that lives in me. And that expression happens as we enjoy him, as we're with him.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, that's all I would say, is just, it's the, it's the most blessed, most beautiful life we can ever live, you know, and um, and it's our forever relationship, isn't it? And he's going to wrap up human history in accordance with the counsel of his will. He's very good at being god and that's it history. He's the history maker. And so, yeah, and I so. I think, when people are feeling quite overwhelmed when they look at the news at the moment, the complexity of so much of what's going on in the world, I think on the backdrop of all of that complexity, we're going to start to see christ visible, being revealed through his people, collectively, all of us, and so it's a privileged time to be here.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, it is, yeah, yeah, so, and thank you for having me love talking to you ditto and liz really appreciate the time that you've spent and just the heart that you carry the story that you so vulnerably share. I just want to say thank you. Well, for everybody listening or watching along, this is the greater things podcast. Thanks for your support and we'll get back in your ears next time. Bye for now. You can find us on Facebook, instagram and YouTube, or go to our website, greaterthingsinternationalcom. Thank you.