Understanding rest with Liz Wright

Rest is not a reward for finishing the work, and it is not a vague “self-care” idea we try to squeeze into an overfull week. We sit down with Liz Wright to talk about rest as a design feature of the Christian life, and why peace is meant to be a lived, tangible reality for believers who are in union with Jesus.

We unpack what happens when the church says “Sabbath” but models busyness, and how the Holy Spirit is calling the bride of Christ back to stillness, awareness, and a simpler gospel. Liz shares her story of encountering Jesus in a way that flooded her whole being with love and peace, resetting an overwhelmed nervous system and marking the beginning of a decades-long journey of “come with me” rest. That personal testimony opens into practical wisdom: learning to tune back into God’s presence, using scripture like Psalm 23 as heart language, and letting peace become the place where courage and authority grow.

We also explore surrender and overflow in ministry, including what it looks like to be quiet on the inside so our words carry the presence of God. Liz and I talk about emotional regulation, compassion toward ourselves, and governing our interior world from spirit over soul over body. If life feels loud right now, this conversation offers a grounded path back to clarity, faith, and deep Christian rest.

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Transcript

Welcome Back With Liz Wright

SPEAKER_04 0:02

In today's episode of the Greater Things Podcast, I am back with Liz Wright. And we are getting curious around the concept of rest. Hope you enjoy. Well, today on the Greater Things Podcast, I am back with Liz Wright. And I have been enjoying all the things that Liz has been doing online and connecting in. And uh earlier today I was able to hang out with her on her podcast and looking forward to that coming out as well. But just to introduce Liz to everybody else who may not have met her, I want to read a portion of a website that I just think is so good. It says Liz Wright is a globally influential Christian faith leader whose strategic initiatives have impacted millions across 125 plus nations. As founder and CEO of the International Mentoring Community, uh multinational platform established in 2020, she directs a comprehensive ecosystem. And I want to come back to that word, ecosystem. I love this idea. It's a comprehensive ecosystem providing mentorship and leadership development to an expanding international platform. What a great, what a great statement. But I love this word ecosystem that you're creating, this culture that you're creating. Where did that word come from, Liz? Ooh, probably from Holy Spirit.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

He makes it look really good, doesn't he? So we just we were paying attention to what Holy Spirit was doing and and really putting language around it. And it's what you it's what you've just said, you know, it's we are intentionally following Holy Spirit to help people fundamentally understand the truth of who he is, who we are, what the gospel actually is, simplifying things back to. It's all about union with Jesus, enjoying him, being liberated through our relationship, our connection with him, and impacting culture. And so everything we're following him in, everything that I'm establishing is for that. It's to to create wineskins that he can flow through that to to reach his people with his heart and really, really help keeping awakening us. So it's it's for that ultimately. And then, of course, when we do awaken, he flows through our life, right? He flows into us and then through us and starts to affect everything in the world around us and everybody in the world around us just supernaturally naturally as he continues to flow. So that's the it's a supernatural kingdom ecosystem, is what's happening. And there's many moving parts to it, but it all has that fundamental objective.

SPEAKER_04 2:49

Having been a part of your mentoring community at one point, I got to see firsthand this ecosystem in operation, which I found incredibly generous. Like that the language that flows in the conversations that happen inside of people are such an evidence to me of the way that you've released them, led them, and empowered them for their own voice to be heard and seen. So I kind of just want to start by saying that's amazing, Liz. I'm just so so thankful to actually have been a part of that and to see that firsthand.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Oh, no, of course, and we loved having you as part of it as well. Yeah, it it I think that's as as leaders, we really are servants, aren't we? Like the word says, you know, we need to do what Jesus does, which is wash the feet of people and equip everyone, equip the saints using the biblical language, equip the saints with the works of service. So I think we're to get underneath people and really provide revelatory tools that help people powerfully walk in their own relationship with Jesus, not in dependence, but enjoying each other and enjoying the journey, the relational journey we have with each other and what I can bring from the heart of God to serve, but it's ultimately to get everybody free and strong and powerfully showing up in life, in their authentic identity, expressing Jesus, enjoying him. So that's my heart in it all, really. It's just like you said, you know, it's just to bring the heart of God and equip and empower. So it's like, yeah, come on, championing everybody on you, go fly, go fly, you know. And these are some keys I've learned along the way. And this is what scripture says, you know, that's been highlighted to me from Holy Spirit. Pop it in your toolbox and you know, run because everybody's so valuable, aren't they? We need the whole body to rise and and reveal him together. I mean, imagine what it's going to look like with all the billions of us around the planet if as we're fully lighting up with Jesus and fully awake and revealing God. I mean, I do think that's the great unveiling, you know, of Christ. I mean, certainly I don't want to limit God because you know he's massive and we understand him about that much. But certainly his plan through his people, through the body of Christ. What a what a beautiful world this will be as everybody awakens and reveals God and begins to manifest his beauty in nature. Yeah. So that's my that's my heart. That's my heart's desire to see that happen.

Presence As Face To Face Union

SPEAKER_04 5:22

Yeah. Well, that's very much my own heart's desire too. And when I'm mentoring people, it's very much the place where it's not like a teacher student, it's a it's like friend meeting friend. And I get that, you know, that Exodus, I think it's 32 or 33, where God would meet with Moses face to face as a friend would meet with a friend. That to me is one of the most richest images from the Old Testament where God in that space comes and meets with, and you've got there's Joshua lingering in the tabernacle as well, but there's this place where we are together, where we are one. And so when we're listening to one revelation and another revelation, we have a double portion then. And if we put those two things together, then we get to see something more of what the kingdom actually looks like. Because I agree, we have this little tiny bit, but if your tiny bit is added to my tiny bit, and then all of a sudden that becomes a little bigger, who knows where this goes as God is actually doing something profoundly um powerful in the lives and the hearts of those that sit at the tables with us.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and I I mean, so many times actually over the years I've been impacted by that, you know, by Moses meeting the Lord face to face, and uh, and how in the scriptures the word in English, I mean you'll know this, but um translated into the into the word presence in the original language is the word face. And so you think that's the that's the intention of Jesus, isn't it? Like the Holy Spirit's put himself within us so that we can engage with him face to face. You know, we can, and I think I'm always praying and and asking Jesus, sensitize me, sensitize me so that I'm seeing and hearing and feeling you consistently, so I'm living before your face in my awareness, because he's always present, right? It's just us tuning back into that awareness and coming out of our big emotions in our soul and back centering back right into our spirit. But that's one of the things that I'm regularly talking to Jesus about. I want to live aware of your face, I want to know the movements of your face, I want to know you that well, you know. So yeah. So yeah, I love that. I love that scripture.

Why Rest Is A Person

SPEAKER_04 7:54

Yeah, it's so good. In that scripture, there's another phrase where God tells Moses that he's gonna give to him rest. And this is a topic that I really wanted to chat with you about, Liz, because I think rest is one of the kingdom anthems that the Spirit of God is speaking back into the bride of Christ at this very time. And as I've watched you online, um, in the idea of you're creating these rest spaces for people to come into this place of rest. Like from the dawn of time, God's been telling people rest, or he's been commanding to rest. But it seems at times, for me from the church, at times we we hear the word rest, we preach the word rest, but we model busy. Um, and I'd often say that um when I was pastoring, like, we can't tell people to respect the Sabbath and work them to death on the Sabbath. We have to engage with this idea of what does rest actually mean and look like for the believer. And so what's one of the questions I wanted to ask you as to this revelation that you've been sitting in and around this idea that rest is, I think it's a design feature. I don't think it's an optional lex, I think it can it comes with our design. Um, and uh I'm just so curious as to see where this came from from you and how it's been played out in your life.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

That's such an amazing question. Okay, so it started the experience of rest where my life was profoundly unrecognizable from that moment, was I think I shared some of this on the first time we spoke on our the previous podcast together, but it was my first experience with Jesus when I first came into the kingdom, so from the perspective of rest, so it was a physical visitation, if you remember, from Jesus, and I was not in church, I didn't know anything, and so when Jesus came to me in his presence, my being was flooded with him. So as Jesus stood in front of me, the light that was shining from his eyes, emanating from his skin, was him, was the essence of who he is. And what flooded me was it was like I was being washed. My soul, my body, my spirit was being brought alive. I'm obviously using limited language of time to just describe what I understand of what happened, and I'm sure there's much more to it. But I was flooded with love, and at the same time, because he's love, he's also peace. He's re he's rest, right? He brings us into a state of rest because he because peace touches you through him. I was flooded with peace and just like as light moving through me. And when I look back, uh the change in me, so I it was like being completely washed clean and reset. So my nervous system, which was amped and stressed and overwhelmed because I was living in an abusive marriage at that time many years ago. Um I was like this all the time, just full of stress and anxiety and overwhelm and fear, and all of that dissolved. Wow, and my body was flooded with peace, like exquisite peace, Matt, tangible, and I came out of the experience. Of course, I had now met God, I knew physically, I knew everything was real, the scriptures were real, and I had been completely born again. I had the past had been deleted, and I had received exquisite rest. I was sitting in a foundation of absolute faith, which resulted in it was like I just knew, knew I was a child of God, I'm a child of God, knew he's the resurrected king of glory, he's the source of life, he's good, he's love, he's peace, he's in charge entirely. And and uh and he his love was immense. And so when I came out of that experience, my life had absolutely changed, unrecognizable. And then as I journeyed on, uh it's been a 30 plus year journey now, and I'm always learning. The first thing Jesus said to me in that physical experience was, come with me. He reached out his hands and he said, Come with me. Always come and rest with me a while. So I've been learning what he meant since then, and the depth of it and the power of it, and the you know, scriptures like be still and know that I am God. Scriptures like he's the Prince of Peace who crushes Satan under our feet, so that internal seat, state of rest that we can re-engage into any time as we tune back in to our conscious awareness to the reality that we're one with God, that we're connected to the source of life, he's within us right now. I know these are familiar truths, but the profoundness of what we're saying, like when we engage into the experience of that, we are freshly flooded with the one who is peace. Because when we connect to him in our awareness, we experience who the fullness of who he is. Like he is love, he's peace. And I've I have found that as I sit in him and I re-engage into the awareness of his presence and I'm enjoying him and I'm flooded with peace, that that scripture, he's the Prince of Peace who crushes the enemy under our feet, that internal posture of heart that I am now in is the place of power. As as he floods out of me, I don't need to shout and scream at demonic forces or you know what I mean, the oppression coming against me. I sit in the one who rules, and his presence changes the atmosphere around me, changes my body internally, changes my soul, my mind and my emotions, the state I'm in, and settles me back, quiets me down again. And from there I've learnt and I'm learning all the time, situation by situation. It's from there I reign in life, I co-reign by releasing the one who actually is the king, who does reign through me. So yeah, that's a snapshot, but I'm I'm so I live this walk, I protect my connection, I protect my peace intentionally because I know it's the place of wellness, power, authority, be still and no. So protecting my relational enjoyment with Jesus, my journey with him, which is the most important thing and the only thing I leave this planet with, you know. So to me, he is the treasure and he is rest, he is peace. It's the but rest is actually a person. So we you know, we we can remove the clutter and the noise, right, from our life circumstances, but that doesn't actually give us peace. You know, it it's you know, in my previous life experience where Jesus did physically come to me, I you know, to the outside world, I had all the bells and whistles, I was a multimillionaire, I was this, this, this, this, this, and all the things we aspire after. But internally, I was an absolute mess. You know, those things did not give me peace. And yes, I was living in extreme emotional difficulties, but it did not give me peace. The the absence of external noise did not give me peace. He's peace, and that's our privilege, isn't it? As kingdom people, we get to live in him all the time, in rest all the time. And it's just about practicing how to re-engage that is what I'm learning all the time, going deeper in. So, yeah. Yeah, so snapshot version.

Courage And Authority From Peace

SPEAKER_04 16:32

It's funny when you when you talk, Liz, my mind is popping with questions as to where do I want to go with this part of this the story that you're sharing too. It reminds me so much of Gideon, where he declares that you are the god of peace. And when you read the story down, he wasn't in peace at all. He was in a lot of dysfunction, he was a lot of fear, he was a lot of hiding, and then he bakes a goat and bakes a bread roll, and God evaporates them or viscerates them, and he then he declares that he is the god of peace. It's it's such an extraordinary moment for Gideon to lean back into that. And so, what did he do? Well, he went and took apart his father's belief system, and then he led Israel into one of its greatest victories, but it started from him meeting peace, and I just wonder how much courage comes from peace, uh Liz. Because that's something do you feel when you're in those places where you're intentionally choosing that?

SPEAKER_00 17:30

Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I've faced like we all have, you know, I've faced lots of situations where um I have needed supernatural courage to face what I'm walking into. Um you know, historic challenges. I won't go through all of them now, but you know, things that we face in life, you know, historic relations, relational difficulties, financial lack, how am I going to feed my child, you know, periodically years ago, you know, um court cases, you know, da-da-da-da-da, on and on and on. And I've found again that centering back into the awareness of Christ in me, sitting back into the arms of his presence, tuning back in, steps going in through the scriptures. I love doing that, you know. Psalm 23, super easy scripture to engage with the shepherd king, you know, talking to him first person. I use the word of God like that. I I talk, it's first person, it's like heart language to Jesus. You know, it's all about me and him. But yeah, I I will enter into his presence through his word and get using that language to engage him. And I've found that the courage that flows from him into me is sufficient to bring me back into peace and the strength to be able to engage with what I'm dealing with, and so you know, it still will be a process to walk through most of the time, but he's my stronger covenant-keeping partner in it, and I've now experienced him that way again, you know. So, yeah, so all all are I've I've discovered that all our needs are met, yeah, you know, in him, in him, through his riches in glory and who he is. You know, I understand that as who he is, the glory of God is his presence is you know, and then as I access his presence, it's there, my needs are met. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

That's powerful. See the the idea that you're you're talking through too, like since I've met you and since I've watched you online, peace is what you carry. And like everyone who says uh anything about Liz Wright, it's usually the peace that she carries that draws us in to that place of presence. And it's that sort of thing that I think when God does a work in you that then produces something of his character from you, it becomes infectious to the people that are around you. And it's like you're leaking out something so beautiful of the kingdom that you know, Jesus said press down, shake together, make room for more, but it's actually going to overflow. Do you feel that that's a piece that overflows from your life that other people are being impacted by the peace that you carry?

When Letting Go Releases Overflow

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Yeah, yeah. There's been thousands of testimonies and specific to rest, probably hundreds and hundreds over the years where people have because it because it's him overflowing, you know, and he's manifesting a particular way, or he's yeah, he's revealing that attribute of the beauty of who he is. And so, yeah, when I've recorded audios or you know, been speaking, he will, or even you know, even at conferences, sometimes he will have me share something that's so simple. Like one time I was speaking in California, and um he wouldn't, he he normally he'll give me some scriptures or I'll have an encounter, something will happen, a vision, and I know you know, oh, I'm supposed to speak on on this, and then I'll start to sit in the word of God on it. Um, but this time it was radio silence, just does nothing. I was like, oh, this is a bit uncomfortable, Jesus. Many people have flown into this, you know, for this, and they're hungry, you know, and anyway, but I just waited on him and just felt like no, just enjoy him, just worship. So I did. And um, during the at the worship, just leading up to when I was about to get on the platform, Jesus. I just let go, just like, I don't know. Okay, if you don't speak Jesus, that's fine, we'll just keep worshiping you and enjoying you, you know. Anyway, suddenly Jesus, I saw him in the spirit. He walked in front of me and he spoke to me clearly, Matt, and he just Said, put your head on my chest and let go. And I and as I did, I just put my head on his chest and surrendered and let go. It was like he stepped into me. So it was, I know he, I know he's with him by his spirit, but it was like a like a fresh engagement with him and the awareness of him. So it's like he stepped into me and I collapsed. And so where's my husband had to grab me and carry me up on the platform? Because I was couldn't could hardly walk. So I kind of wobbled and was carried up onto the platform. And then for about 45 minutes, I think it was approximately, and we've cut we've got it on camera. Yeah, came front and center in me and just began to speak from his heart. But what was happening was this tangible piece hit the room, and there were hundreds of people there. And you could have heard a pin drop because his tangible peace began to pour out through my words, through what he was saying through me as I let go, leaned in and let him come front and center by letting go, surrendering in that moment, which was not easy, you know. In that moment, I mean, there are far more challenging situations people face in life, you know, but to where that require you to just trust him, you know, but in that moment, he wanted to speak, he wanted to embrace everybody and change everybody and bring everybody into rest. And he did. I mean, hundreds, and then healing started to happen in the room, just nobody laying hands on anybody, just Holy Spirit moving and healing people and healing hearts and calming minds and calming nervous systems and stopping the noise and helping people recognize again that this is how we He wants us to live, yeah, you know, all the time. And so, so for me now, all these years in, uh I yield my voice to him so that my heart and my voice, so that, and I think this is for all of us, I think the most precious thing we can do, or one of the most precious things we can ever do, is be quiet on the inside. Let him fill us with what's in his heart, and then out of the heart let the mouth speak. And then our words become a container that carry him and carry his frequent the fruit the frequency of or the sound of his voice as as and his presence. And so to me, that's what my voice is for. It's it's to carry him, you know, by leaning in on the inside. And I think, like I said, you know, I think this is for everybody, and I do agree with you. I think we're in a time where this is a priority in the Lord's heart to get his people to live from rest, live so aware, so awake, but resting, not striving to get there, but just entering into his rest, resting. Let like he said to me, lean on lean your head on my chest and let go. And then he did. He just took over. It's like, will we trust him in the moments that much? And and when we don't, I go, yeah, okay, I'm not doing very well here. Can you just take over, please? Dispense fresh faith through me. Supernatural, I need to go from natural to supernatural again. And he does. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:33

That's beautiful. I remember when I started preaching, this is a few decades ago. Um, I was so nervous about it, I'd rot it out word for word, and then I'd go over it and I'd go over it and I'd go over it and fix it and go over it and fix it and go over it, have an anxiety attack, and then do it again. Uh there was one point where I felt like God just tapped me on the shoulder and said, you know that verse where it says, Don't worry about what to say? How about we try that? And I'm like, No. I need my my pieces of paper. And he's like, Well, how you can do that if you want, but how about we try that? And it was like a shift in that moment to go, do I actually believe what Jesus has said? And if I do, can I trust it? And if I don't, then why am I doing this whole thing in the first place? And so I shifted nearly overnight from plenty of notes to no notes. Now I grew up in a Baptist environment, and I remember that there was one time Liz, I was hanging out with some Baptist pastors, and they were going, How long does it take you to write a sermon? And one guy says, 20 hours. And I'm like, 20 hours? Like, what else do you do with your week? And he's like, another guy says 12 hours, another guy says eight hours. And can I say this out loud? I lied. I actually said two, but but I I don't, I just wait for God, and in that moment you feel like that pressure going. If I say I don't do all of this prep work, but I think our lives are the prep work. I think the word of God is ingrained in us, um, and it's written upon our hearts. And again, we either believe that or we don't. And to believe it means then I can access it. To have the mind of Christ means I I can speak it. But I so agree with you, we start from rest, not move towards rest. I think rest is along the journey and it's along the road, like you say, and you can be super intentional wherever you are, if you're power walking in the morning or if you're hanging out with your husband or having a cup of tea later, or a cup of coffee, or whatever that is, you can be super intentional around that. But rest is our design. And I just think the way that you've been sharing that, it's more than that, Liz, because you model it. You model something that then people can go, yeah, I can see it, I can feel it, I can actually understand it. And to me, in my language, that means you have an authority in that to allow people then to experience the very things that you've actually experienced.

Regulating Emotions And Governing Atmosphere

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Yeah, I think so. And I think it's um, you know, I practice it through my relationship with Jesus. You know, I do have big emotion moments.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

What does that look like?

SPEAKER_00 28:21

I'll be like, hmm, I think I'm reacting here. What's happening? But but what I do is I'll spiritually regulate. So, and I've got it's like building a muscle, isn't it? As well, as as time has gone on, I the pathway back in to use that language, back in is fast, it it takes less and less time. So now I will uh observe myself. I love this, I love doing this. This is this is so amazing. I mean, we all probably are aware of this, but just being aware again in the moment I find is really helpful. So I become aware of myself watching myself having emotions. So, and in that moment, I realize afresh, and I do I've done this so many times. Oh, I'm a spirit being who has a beautiful soul and an amazing body who's having this earthly experience right now. Therefore, I'm watching myself have this reaction, therefore, I'm not my reaction. I can, like David said, I can quiet myself like a child. I can value and listen to the feedback that's coming from my emotional response to my earthly situation I'm in, but I don't I I can govern that. I can govern that. I can govern over the belief that has just been identified, that may be a wobbly belief, not a helpful belief that's formed that's causing that emotion in the moment. And so I will govern it. So I've become much more attuned to the fact that we we should be, well, we can now live, not should, we can now live spirit over soul over body in Christ. And that's the beauty of our liberated state that we are spirit beings, yeah, and it's just and just that one moment of awareness reveals to you again that's the truth, you know. Ah, and then you literally just I release peace. So I'll sit in Jesus in peace and release that peace into that reaction, and I never never like a little, like a like a you know, I think we have to be so compassionate with ourselves, don't we? And other people, like we're all learning, we're wobbling along life with big L plates on. Nobody's an expert in God, like we haven't, you know, we're we're learning and it's and it's okay, you know. And I think you wouldn't yell and scream at a two-year-old because they can't drive a car, you know. So I think we're we are only aware of what we are aware of by the grace of God. We're all awakening into the fullness of who we are. You know, I believe that. And so I think so. For me, I'll go, I'll shh, I'll pay attention and be loving and kind to myself, calming myself like a child. And then I move on. And then I move on. So yeah, I think, yeah, it's it's a this journey is amazing, isn't it? It's an amazing and so that and that's how that's how I'll regulate back into rest from my big emotional moments when they happen. They're less than they used to be, which is great. So I'm maturing a bit.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

I still can't imagine that, but anyway.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Good. But it's true.

SPEAKER_04 31:42

I love the idea of awareness. I think awareness is something else that in the the bright of Christ this very day is something that needs to be understood in greater, greater ways. And I love the way that you've connected that into dominion and to authority. Um, having grown up in an environment where deliverance ministry meant you cast out things, God has shown me a different way. You know, like even what I'm walking through at the moment, there's with a cancer journey. I've had people saying, You're under so much attack. And I'm like, No, I'm in the presence of God. I'm not under attack, I'm with him. Uh so I'm not giving Satan that credit in that space. And again, what I want to do is be aware of what God is actually doing in the journey that I'm walking through. Why? Because I think it's brilliant, because I think he is so powerful, because I think that the things that he does inside of our lives, even in times of difficulty, help other people helping me help me, but allows the kingdom of God to be seen more and more. So this awareness thing, that's probably another podcast in itself. But I think that's a very, very apt, very timely and a very powerful concept for you to be bringing to the table as well, Liz. So thank you for that.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

Yeah, no, it's I I agree with you. I think we should talk more about it. I'm very passionate about the subject because Holy Spirit has um shown me quite a lot about it, you know, and it is about governance, it's about governing ourselves, it's about governing the atmosphere around us with him from rest. And and I have found over the years that, you know, if you are so I can't remember how many times, and it's a lot, and my team will tell you the same because I've trained quite a few of them in it, or modelled it, I should say, because there's there's not a one, two, three on it. But the the amount of times, going back to your point of we we prepare ourselves in his presence, like we sit with him in the word, we get filled with him, filled with perspective, filled with the truth, and then in the moment he calls us to share, we're an overflowing vessel, you know. And I will I will sit and do that. I sit with him, I worship him, I read the word, and then whatever it is that he wants to share, you know, he'll share. Um, but yeah, I just think that the more we are uh wake and aware of his presence and how saturated we are, and we're tuned into that. When I release my hand and somebody's struggling with demonic oppression, and that that demonic is attached to them, um it's like the demonic gets electrocuted. So I'll literally feel that energy of that spirit. So that's how I discern, I'll feel a feel um its presence. And my hand is now one with the hand of God because I'm so aware of his presence flowing through me. It's literally like you know, those fly zappers. And it's they just go, they go because you're aware the presence of God is flowing body of Christ, right? And zap. So there's no lengthy process. And I'm not saying that there are not times for that because clearly relationships are important and Holy Spirit will lead, you know, how he wants somebody to be set free. But for me, the fastest way to get free is sit in his presence, release his presence through your body, or pray for somebody else who's struggling. You know what I mean? And he will just take over, wouldn't he? And yeah, his presence is the solution to everything, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_04 35:28

I I I'm I'll vote for that.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

When God's there, I mean, everything has to bow, doesn't it, to his supremacy, really? That's what I have experienced, yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:41

Yeah. This has been such a rich conversation, Liz. And I know our time is just about done. Uh, just as we finish up, is there anything else that's on your heart that you'd like to share?

SPEAKER_00 35:52

Um I just think at the moment, like you said earlier, Jesus is drawing his us back to spend time with him at the moment because he's wanting to reset us. Yeah, body, soul, and spirit into rest. I think it is to make time for him. Even if it's five minutes or ten minutes, this is on his heart so strongly as you have been experiencing as well. And I have, you know, over and over, and it's increasing. He wants us all living in rest. And that in itself is such a witness, you know, in especially when you look at the world circumstance at the moment, so much pressure and turmoil, and very difficult circumstances and wars, and and so you know, economic instability and all of it. So we we are in the most amazing time to be able to reveal God. And if we can sit in rest and know his heart and reveal him and govern the atmosphere of our interior life, our body, and our ex our life externally, then he will be tangible through us, and people will be drawn to him. They will be drawn to him, and it will be so organic, supernaturally natural. I think he really, really wants to cause us to rise and to shine, like Daniel said, you know, at the end of the age, shining, revealing the wisdom of God, you know, and so I know I'm paraphrasing that scripture, but we are that, we are the shining ones, and I think we we will shine brighter and brighter as we sit with him in stillness and enjoy him and know him. And he wants to be known by us as well. That's something else I feel burning in his heart. He wants to be known by us, he wants that relationship that he died for, he wants that relationship with us to go deeper and deeper and deeper and to be consuming us completely. So, yeah, that's what's that's what I feel at the moment is he wants for his people.

SPEAKER_04 37:50

That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:53

I love it, Liz. And it's as always, it's such a privilege to be able to hang out with you in this space and just thank you again for your time. If people want to get in contact with you, Liz, what's the best way to do that?

SPEAKER_00 38:03

Um, LizWright.org. Yeah, they can jump onto the website and everything that we're doing in our ecosystem, Supernatural Kingdom ecosystem, is on the website. And there's some great resources there, especially to get into rest at the moment, too.

SPEAKER_04 38:16

So yeah. Yep, we cannot encourage you guys as listeners to jump on board and have a look. Well, this is the Greater Things podcast. Thanks for hanging out with us today. We'll be back in your ears sometime soon.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

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