Remember Who You Are, with Robbie Venter

One line from The Lion King can feel like entertainment… until it lands like a message with your name on it. Robbie Venter joins us to share the moment that stopped him in his tracks, pulled him out of a life of masks and survival, and set him on a new path of identity, authority, and purpose in the Kingdom of God.

Robbie’s story is raw and deeply relatable: moving countries as a kid, learning a new language, living with ADD, getting kicked out of school, and carrying the weight of trying to fit into systems that never knew what to do with him. We talk about why authenticity matters, why it can cost you relationships, and how many people are not “fake” so much as conditioned, performing a version of themselves they never chose.

From there we go deeper into the big ideas behind Robbie’s book Remember Who You Are: identity, position, and responsibility. We explore what it means to live as a spirit being having a human experience, why authority without identity becomes striving, and how healthy mentorship draws out what God already placed inside you. Robbie also shares the practical side of his journey: Australia, the mines, a Masters in business, and building a property portfolio that created financial freedom and opened space to serve.

If you’ve been asking who you really are, why you keep shrinking, or what it looks like to live aligned, this conversation will stretch you in the best way. Subscribe, share it with a mate, leave a review, and tell us what line or moment hit you hardest.

Find Robbie at: https://robbieventer.com/

Transcript

Welcome And Meet Robbie

SPEAKER_02 0:02

In today's episode of the Greater Things Podcast, I'm with a brand new friend. His name is Robbie Venta. He is an entrepreneur, businessman, and just an all-around great guy. And he's got a wonderful story, the kingdom of God. Hope you enjoy. So today on the Greater Things Podcast, I'm with a brand new guest, and he is a new friend to me. Coming through other friends of Lana and Conrad Enkelbrecht has been wonderful to meet the Robbie Venter. How are you, mate?

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Good Matt, good to be on with you today. Good to see you, man.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Well, mate, um, we got connected through your online community, which has blessed me as well. And I've had a couple of people reach out from that from that time of doing a bit of a dream interpretation session with you. And since then we've reconnected in and all of that sort of stuff. Uh, and just been really blessed by your heart and your spirit. There's a real peace about the man that you are. And um, a couple of months ago I reached out and said, Hey, would you be interested in doing something like this and allowing people to understand who is Robbie? And um, and then getting into that place of the story of unpacking, what does that actually look like and mean in real time? So, mate, before we jump into who is Robbie, can you just explain a little bit about Robbie, about who he's married to, how many kids he has, what he's doing in life at the moment?

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Absolutely. Well, thanks for having me on, Matt. Good to be here with you guys. So, yeah, my name's Robbie, married to my wife Giselle. We've been married 15 years. Uh, she's, you know, before I got married, I prayed for a very powerful woman, and God certainly answered my prayers because she is, she's uh she's a very strong woman and an amazing woman, a talented woman, creative woman. Her name's Jazz. Um, and then I've got two kids, my son Blaise, who is six years old, and my daughter Zaria, who is five years old. Uh, we had them very close together, so we had two under two. Um, yeah, amazing kids, full of life, full of energy. Keep us up at night, wake up early in the morning, keep me on my toes. But yeah, blessed to have an amazing family. Just in the middle of a transition back from living in New Zealand back to South Africa, which was a very, you know, very much a surprise even to us making this move. And yeah, I run an investing business and also mentoring consulting business in an online community. That's what I do. So, yeah.

Beyond Labels And Background

SPEAKER_02 2:34

Mate, that's awesome. And love to hear the way that you describe your wife, your family, and all that sort of stuff. Um, having a strong woman woman beside you is always a brilliant, amazing, powerful, wonderful thing. So, mate, absolutely well done on the 15 years as well. So, part of this uh conversation is not just about what Robbie does, but who Robbie is. And for the longtime listeners of the Greater Things podcast, you'll know that I asked this question to anybody who comes on to these um at in a first-time capacity as to the who is the person that we're actually talking to. And so often with Christians, they will revolve around the things of I am a Christian, I'm a son of God, I'm a daughter of God, I'm a child of God. And I'm always interested in going beyond those places, although they're wonderful, and I absolutely agree with every part of that statement. The who is Robbie Venter is different from I'm just a Christian or I'm a son or a daughter of God. So, mate, when I ask you that question, like where does your mind go to and how do you respond to that question?

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Yeah, it's a good question, Matt. Well, I think there's kind of like the difficult side of who is Robbie Venter, and then there's like the the side um that's kind of the victory side, you know. And so the difficult side is I'm an immigrant, uh, I moved to this new to this country as an eight-year-old and had to learn a whole new language. So English is actually my second language. I'm neurodivergent, so I'm super ADD. Uh, you know, I've always been very out of the box in terms of how I think, how I reason, how I see things. And I think having been exposed to two cultures and two languages at an early age gives you that kind of contrast that I guess a lot of people who grow up in one culture don't have that. And that was one very challenging, but also very enlightening to understand that there's all these different ways of looking at at the world, you know, that there isn't just one way, but there's multiple ways of looking at the world. So there's that, and then I'm I'm a school dropout. I got kicked out of school, so didn't finish high school. And um, so I'm all of those things, you know? And an immigrant, someone with learning difficulties, someone who dropped out of school, someone who had issues with addiction in my teenage years, you know, a lot of challenges growing up. But on the on the other side of that equation is um I'm an entrepreneur. I when I discovered that I was an entrepreneur, I could channel a lot of my energy into positive things. And I'm also a mystic, you know, someone who believes in our in the fact that we're not a human being having a spiritual experience, but we're a spirit being have having a human experience. And I've really pushed, I guess, my questions and the boundaries of what does that really mean? And how do we live in that way? So yeah, I'm in a nutshell, that's that's who I am. That's a little bit of my background and the things that interest me, and yeah, a little bit of my history.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

I love that you include all of that as well, because so often with Christian leaders, they usually just present the shiny parts of what they're doing and allowing us to see the kingdom um victories or the the things that they do that make people go, oh wow, that's really, really cool. What I love about a person like yourself who goes, you know, this is where I've come from, this is who I am, these are the experiences that have actually formed me or uh helped me sometimes, that challenged me. Authenticity must have been a big deal for you throughout your life, or has that become something that's in the later years?

SPEAKER_00 6:19

No, I think throughout my life, authenticity has been a big thing. Like I think the way I function is very intuitive. So, you know, sitting in front of someone that could be saying certain things, but if I know that the intent or or the heart or the frequency that's emitting out of them is different to what they're actually saying, uh then that really, really bothers me. Like that really bothers me. So authenticity is is massive, and I think um, yeah, I that that's always been a high value of mine. I don't know why. Now that you mentioned that, I don't know where that comes from, but that's always been a pretty big deal to me. And and and I'm someone that can smell pretty quickly if if a person's not living out of their authentic self or living an authentic life. It really bothers me, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Yeah. I think it's one of those things that Jesus models every single day of his life to the expense of times of people who wanted to be close to him or or whatnot. Have you found that authenticity has a cost with it?

SPEAKER_00 7:22

Yeah, the cost of rejection, you know, that those people who are not actually aligned in the same way don't want to be around you anymore. And so then you come up with the choice of hey, do I put on a mask to get to get acceptance, you know, or do I express who I really am? And um, yeah, like I I think um it does have obviously it's got a huge cost to it, but ultimately we are drawn to to those people who are authentic, you know, it takes a certain level of courage and and strength, but to live authentically, Matt, and here's the big big challenge, I think, is to live out of the fullness of who you are, or to be live out of the true and aligned version of who you are, you got to know who you are. And so I think some people are not living out of their authentic version of who they are because they haven't discovered that yet. It's not that they're trying to deceive the people around them, they're just living out of you know what we'd call the conditioned self, you know. You grew up being taught this is what you ought to do and this is how you ought to live. And so for me, a big part of what I pushed back against in the school system was a system that didn't honour who I was. I had well-intending teachers, but they're trying to box me in to think a certain way that was based on the industrial age. You know, a lot of the systems and processes that was in the schooling system I grew up in was, you know, comply or be punished. It's not asking the question, like who is this person in front of us? And so I was I was really fortunate when I was, you know, a bit older to meet a mentor who his philosophy was that the art of teaching is getting out of someone what God put in them because all of the talent, all the potential, all the gifting, all the dreams that a person has, it's already inside of them. So then a true teacher's role is to understand what's within the person and to cultivate what's already there, not to try and put something in. So we have well-intending parents, teachers, pastors, etc., and they try and shape us and mold us and give us these rules and conditions and you know, their advice, which again is well-intended, but oftentimes it's not congruent with the true nature of the person in front of them. And then so we have this thing, we have this challenge. Do we either then just comply with that and go down a track that just doesn't feel right or doesn't feel true to our true nature, or do we then rebel to some extent and live out of the truth of who we are? But I think that there's a saying, I forget who quote who says this, but um yourself and to your knowing self be true. That's one of those old guys, Aristotle or something like that. But that's a quote I heard a long time ago, and I said, Okay, so there's actually two parts to the challenge. No know yourself and to your knowing self be true. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Love that when did and if maybe this is a bit better question Did you ever wear a mask?

Masks And The Price Of Belonging

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Yeah, that's a great question, man. Yeah, I think I did, you know, like um coming across from another country where um I get I guess I I I I grew up hearing a certain language, having a set of like social expectations, um, the culture and and the language in the arena I kind of grew up in operated one way. And um for me, what I experienced it as being very loving and accepting, and then so I felt very free to be myself when when we moved across to New Zealand. Um, there was a lot of stress on my family, like we didn't move across with a lot of money, so there's a little bit of disconnection that went on between me and my parents, and then obviously I was trying to navigate this whole new arena um of a different culture, a different language, trying to make friends with people who didn't even speak the same language. And so I was trying to understand how to fit in, you know, and I never had to fit in before, I could just be, and it was fine, and so I had to learn a whole new way of being and operating in terms of how I conduct myself with a whole different set of expectations, and so um, from memory, you know, the the level of energy and passion that I had was very much accepted in the first environment that I was in, and in the second environment, it was seen as disruptive and and bad, you know. So um I think there were times when I wore a mask trying to get the acceptance of friends, trying to get the acceptance of teachers, but then something snapped in me one day and I was like, I'm not even when I try, even when I try really hard, it's not working. So what like what's the point? I may as well just put this thing down.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

So yeah. So how's it feel to live without the mask?

Rock Bottom And A Cry To God

Remembering Identity And Kingship

SPEAKER_00 12:26

It feels good, man. So so I think the turning point for me was when I was 18 years old, like I had been living with the mask for a long time, you know, maybe eight years or whatever it's been, like like for most of my teenage years, you know, trying trying to adapt, trying to fit in, trying to um be acknowledged, trying to be accepted. And then there's this turning point when I was just like, I'm I'm done with this. And at this point, Matt, that's when I'd been kicked out of school. I'd actually been asked to leave home. I got fired from my job. I just had like this whole string of like events that brought me to rock bottom, and I cried out to God and I said, God, like I need you because I remembered having this connection with him when I was a little boy. Wow, you know, and and the trajectory for me was seriously not looking good. You know, I had it was not looking good. And um, a couple of weeks later, an auntie of mine from South Africa calls up and says, Hey, I don't know why, but God's put you on my heart. Why don't you come and live with us? And uh so I get on the plane a couple of weeks later, and now I'm like, after praying this prayer, I'm on the plane, I'm heading to South Africa. And um, not long after I get there, she takes me to this Lion King production. It's like a Broadway production, the Lion King show. And I'm sitting there and the lights start dimming, and I'm just like, God, I know that somewhere in the Bible it says if one of your sheep goes missing, you'll you'll come find them. And I'm like, I prayed this prayer a couple of weeks ago. Now I'm on the other side of the planet. I'm in this like place where I'm like, okay, show me, you know, going from okay, this isn't working to like the point of surrender to the point of then inquiry, like, show me. And I'm sitting there and like I'm I'm like in this place of pretty deep, like pain and like questioning. And uh this huge lion face shows up in the production and goes, Simba, you've forgotten who you are. You've forgotten me. You're so much more than what you have become. Remember who you are, you are my son, you must take your place as king, like this. And obviously, in the story, everyone knows the Lion King story, but the son had run away from who he was, living the Hakuna Matada life, and through an encounter with his father in heaven, his father reminds him of who he is and what his destiny is, and then he's faced with this choice like, do I accept that or do I keep running away from it? So, as this happened, Matt, like I just felt the power of the Holy Spirit going through my body like electricity. Like, I just asked this question not long after, it's like boom, here's your answer. Like, and so obviously the hyenas and Scar and all the bad guys had taken over the land, and that was very much like a picture of my life, you know, the destruction that was like a prophetic image of what my life looked like. And the interesting thing is as he remembered who he was through this encounter with his father, and he claimed his identity, his position, and his responsibility, those became three very key concepts for me. Through a son taking dominion and taking occupying his throne and place of rulership and owning his jurisdiction and taking that place of authority and overriding the voices that were trying to undermine him and diminish him and keep him away by usurping his throne. I just it was like all these scriptures that I'd heard and read that never made sense to me started locking in. Like God made man, he said to him, Have dominion, let it be on earth as it is in heaven. Like God is um Jesus is the King of kings. So all of these things for me start like it was like God was showing me that the reason why things are in a mess is because sons haven't occupied their place as kings, he's delegated a realm of responsibility and territory to his sons to occupy. So it was almost like he took me out of my body and I lived the whole lifetime and just zoomed, put me back in. And now when I came back to my senses, it was like I had a whole lifetime of new understanding around government, kingship, the whole battle between good and evil, like dominion, and uh yeah, yeah. So that was like a major turning point for me around understanding identity. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Wow. So this birthed at some point a book that you wrote around this very concept, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah, yeah. So the book is called Remember Who You Are. And the thing is, it's my story, but it's also your story, our story as believers. That um, you know, there's like a domino effect. When you forget who you are, there's a domino effect. When you remember who you are, there's a domino effect. And you know, that that brought me into some deeper questions of what is identity? What does it mean to be born again from above? What does it mean to be the offspring of God? Because we're born from the seed of God. And if you if you look up what that word means, it's spermate, like the original word of that. And so that led to all these questions, and I guess deeper understanding of like what kind of species are we really when we're born again, and what are the implications of that for us and the responsibility that we're brought into. And so, yeah, the book kind of covers a lot more of that in detail about position, identity, responsibility, what it means to function as a king under the king of kings. And um, like you know, I think Matt, like there's been times where I'm like, God, I trust you for this, and he's like, No, I trust you for that. Yeah, you know what I mean? And so I think seeing people understand those three foundations identity, position, responsibility, and even in position, there's a scripture in Revelations where Jesus says, To those who overcome, I'll grant that they sit with me in my throne as I overcame and sit with the Father in his throne. So that's an invitation into the highest platform of authority in all of the universe. And you gotta think about what's possible for us as sons when we begin to occupy the levels of position, governmental spiritual position that's been assigned to us by the King of Kings to rule on his behalf and represent him in that governmental capacity. The same as Simba represented his father by occupying the throne, and when he roared, it was like life and colour was restored to the land, and so that was through the action of a son, not the father, right? And so Christ in us is the hope of glory, not Christ in heaven. And so I think there's a real understanding for his unlike Jesus, you came 2,000 years ago, but the earth's still in a mess. Why? And that's when I feel he started explaining to me a lot of these things, like the heavens belong to the Lord, but the earth I've given unto man. And so there's a jurisdiction of dominion that's been assigned to us that he won't interfere with because then it undermines our authority and overrides the framework and the structure that he set in place. Yeah, so there's there's there's a real determination in my heart, Matt, around helping people to really get that and understand that. And I find that when they do, everything in their life shifts. Everything shifts.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Yeah, yeah. I love what you're sharing. Like being in pastoral ministry for as long as I have, it's been interesting to see where I started from to where I am. People hunt for authority, and you see that in churches all the time. People want authority over things, they want dominion over things, and even as you're sharing the idea of authority before identity, I I kind of think that's the wrong way around. Like, identity is the doorway, identity is the understanding of who I am designed to be, and that unique conversation that you have with God over that. And I love that that teenage version of yourself discovers that inner um a production of The Lion King all those years ago and actually gets smacked in the face by God in that moment to go, hey bro, it's all about to start changing. It takes courage though, from that moment to step outside of the cinema or the the theatre and go, okay, what does this look like in real real life in in terms of what does Robbie do next? Like what happened to you after that cinema experience?

Mentors Who Call Out Potential

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Yeah, that's so true, man. So I think one of the interesting things is Simba in his journey meets Rafiki, who's this monkey with a stick, and he smacks him over the head and kind of imparts this. Yeah, you know, he's the wise old prophet that kind of like helps him to remember. So the interesting thing is this was in about I think November or December of that year, and not long after that, a friend of a friend that knew a friend that knew a friend recommended this surfing Bible school in South Africa, and that was run by um Des and Kara Sawyer. So Des was kind of like Rafiki, he was like this wise man that could just look you in the eye. And know all your secrets. You're almost like scared to make eye contact because he's got this piercing, like prophetic look. And you'll be thinking of something, all of a sudden he starts talking about it. And Des, um, he's the first person I think I met that truly got me. Like him and I were cut from the same cloth, and so he started just giving like loving me, seeing who I was, calling out my potential, like accepted me fully. Whereas I was so used to criticism and correction from teachers and so forth. Like he he he could see what was in me, you know, and it was like we had this understanding between us. Like he knew, he knew what I knew. Um, and um, yeah, he was amazing. So I had a year of Bible school, that's where I met Jazz. But this was this was the guy that said the art of teaching is getting out of someone what God put in them, and so he he would shape surfboards, and God said to him, discipleship is like surfboard shaping. You get this like block of foam, and there's no shape, and you gotta see the shape before you start cutting away, and then shaping is cutting away everything that it isn't, right? And so he would say, like, don't try and be someone else's shape and be your own shape, and he could see God trained him through shaping thousands and thousands of surfboards, how to see someone's shape, and he would just prophetically then start bringing that to the surface. So he was just the most amazing father figure, friend, teacher, and so that was just a wild year of praying, um, just connection with God. Again, I would go for walks praying, and sometimes I'd just be filled with electricity. Like I would just feel these like spiritual things unlocking in me and around me, and quote scripture, and it was like I was on fire, you know, at that time. And so a year after that, I went back to New Zealand and um my face had changed. Like I you couldn't recognize me from who I was before. Like, I just had this life and and energy about me. And so, not long after I got to New Zealand, um, I met another mentor, um, Ian Clayton. And so he started teaching me all sorts of things about you know what it means to be a spirit being first. That hey, you've got full access to heaven now, the veil's being torn. And um yeah, like that was just an incredible journey as well. Like that really messed up my mind around religious conditioning and what I what I had always thought about one day when you die, you go to heaven. Um, but that's that's not you know, we've been co-crucified already and been raised up with him. And so that was like a good year of my brain just like you ever seen those robots in a robot movie where it's just like cannot compute, like, you know, um so yeah, that was that was an it was an incredible time, and then also um started working in real estate. There was an amazing guy called Barry Ward, he was the best real estate agent in the area. He offered me a job working for him as a real estate agent when I was 19. Um, and so everyone else in the office was 60 odd, and here I was as a 19-year-old selling real estate, and then after that, Jazz and I got married, you know. She uh um, yeah, we got married, which was amazing. Got married back in South Africa, and then um we we ventured up the coast of Africa to, I don't know, nine or ten different countries. We really wanted, we felt called to Africa. But the interesting thing, Matt, is we realized we're too young, too inexperienced, didn't have any money, didn't have anything of real value to bring to the table, you know, as 21-year-olds or what, you know, whatever we were at at that point. And so we had this dream, but actually realized that hey, we don't have enough substance to even put the tiniest dent in what what it is we're dreaming about doing. We just thought, oh, we wanna we want to change Africa or whatever, you know, we want to bring our part, but we didn't have much to bring. So the interesting thing was um we moved to Australia, and so Australia had the biggest impact on my entrepreneurial journey.

Australia And Financial Freedom

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Um, and I owe so much to Australia and Australians for what unlocked for me there. And and so I thought, you know, if I want to go and do missions and all these things, I don't want to be out there writing people letters like, hey, please can I have some money? Respect to people who do that. I just realized that wasn't that wasn't my that wasn't for me, you know. Like I wanted to, I was like, how can I go and become rich and make as much money as possible so I don't have to work? And so I went to this real estate conference and there was this Australian woman, and she gets up and she goes, Hey, I'm 27 years old and I own 13 properties. And I was like, What? And and and then she said something like this, Matt, she says, if you think you can do the same, like stand up right now. And there's just something in me, I was like, Yeah, I'm still like I'm standing up, and I'm not like I'm claiming, I'm claiming whatever she did, I'm I'm gonna do it, you know. And so for me, the the motivator there was if I've got 13 properties all producing cash flow, I don't have to work, and I'm free to you know live out the mission that I've got to live out. And so um, long story short, I worked at the mines for six years, and I I worked for um a company owned by the Chinese government, and I was doing procurement and contracts, and so you remember I didn't finish school, but somehow through massive favor, I was negotiating like I mean, one of the contracts I negotiated was like$80 million, and these Australian guys just believed in me though. Like I'm like in my early to mid-20s, and there's like massive contracts and tenders to run. They're like, Oh, you'll be alright, mate, have a crack, you know. Like that was that was their attitude. And I'm like, yeah, I'm entrusted with like these massive multi-million dollar decisions. And then one of the guys said to me, Hey, I think you should do a master's in business. I said to him, Well, that's great that you think that. The only problem is I didn't finish high school. He's like, Don't worry, mate, I know I've got a few contacts, I'll I'll write you a letter and let them know, you know, you've got the right work experience to qualify for this. And I was like, All right. So um, yeah, they paid for me to do a master's degree. I I did that over, I don't know, three years while doing these, you know, pretty high-level contracts. And then there came a day when God was like, okay, well, and then during that time we'd hit the like our goal was 10 properties. So we bought 10 properties over that period. Wow. Um, and basically the income from the assets replaced my working income. And I was, yeah, I think 27 at that point, and yeah, walked out. It was the weird feeling walking out of the mines for the last time and knowing like, hey, you don't, I don't have to work anymore.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

You know? So yeah, let me just pause for a minute and hand it back to you. But that's yeah, Australia. Like, I can't tell you how grateful I am for like that Aussie spirit of like like number one, the trust that they gave me and the potential they saw in me, the the the backing. Like Australia's got something so special on it, and it's a very, very special part of part of my journey. So, and then amongst that, obviously, when you're working in the mines, it's like working on a pirate ship. It's uh the language is anything but pure, but you know, you just gotta learn to have a laugh at that. And um, yeah, I met some some of the smartest people you can imagine, eh? Um, on those mines. So yeah.

Returning Home To Empower Leaders

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Yeah. I love that, man. I love the idea of God leading or guiding your path as well. And earlier in the conversation, you spoke about God drawing people to you as well. Yeah. Um, I'm a massive believer in God drawing people to you and taking notice of those that are drawn. There's a verse in uh John 17 where Jesus is praying and we get a uh like an ear into a prayer that Jesus talks to the Father about everyone you've drawn to me, I've revealed you to. And that drawing, that is such a powerful concept where so often in our world, in our Christian world, we have to go, go, go, go, go rather than be drawn. Uh, and in the drawing, you get to gain the wisdom uh and you get to be a part of a relationship with somebody. And you've just highlighted two mentor figures that have been extremely helpful in the process of your journey in life that eventually got you to Australia and obviously eventually got you to New Zealand, and now um the next pathway open is back to South Africa. Um, and dreams, I'm guessing, that were birthed uh with yourself and Giselle are now back on the table.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Mm-hmm. Yeah, big time. Yeah, big time. And this time round, we're a little bit more set realistic and sensible, and I think we've been through the fire a few times since we were there originally, you know. Um to be able to say that look, you know, we we have a little bit of substance to be able to bring to the table this time. Well, we've we've learned some hard lessons, you know, and we've been humbled many, many times. And um yeah, we never let go of the dream. So this time, yeah, this time round, it's gonna be interesting to see how that materializes. But I mean, when I was there, man, I we were there for a month and we just met so there were so many divine appointments with people that we met that we know that we're either meant to walk with, build with, do things with, support, you know, get alongside. And so I think the dream for me really is to empower leaders, you know, whether that's strategically, spiritually, financially, to be, you know, to be a mentor and be in in those people's, you know, corner, people who are gonna do amazing things. It's not about me stepping into the spotlight, but it's about really just being a launch pad for the people who are doing, already doing great things and called to do great things, you know. That's that's really a heart and how that's gonna, you know, work its itself out, I'll be able to tell you maybe in a year's time.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

Yeah. I'll be super interested to have that conversation with you in 12 months' time too. Because again, from the sounds of your life, anything and everything could happen in the next 12 months, and uh and who know who knows where you I might be chatting to you from. Absolutely, absolutely, Matt. Yeah, man. Well, mate, I'm gonna put a bit of a pause in the moment in the chat because I I feel like what you've just dropped on us um is I want to go back and re-listen uh to it as well. For someone who's existed in this place of kingdom ministry for as long as I have listening to you speak about provisions, listening to you speak about authority. Um, there's lessons in this for me to have a listen to, and I just want to say thank you for everything you've dropped on us today.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

No, you're very welcome, Matt. No worries, man.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

So, mate, if people want to grab your book or get in contact with you, like how do they do that?

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Yeah, so a couple of ways. Um I've got a free community that um you can join that's on uh www.aialglobal.org, so a r-i-e-l, or my website, robbieventer.com, if you want to work with me. Um my books on Amazon, remember who you are. So, Matt, it's been amazing. Thank you so much, and um yeah, looking forward to keeping up the relationship and seeing where it goes. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

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